Was Malos a good villain?
Was Malos a good villain?
Adam Martin
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Brody Adams
No
Levi Ward
No
Justin Lewis
>Villain
Malos was right.
Brody Edwards
malos is the best thing about 2
Michael Smith
Who and no.
Leo Lewis
2nd best
Ryan Collins
Malos wasn't even a villain, he was just an antagonist.
Amalthus was the villain
Adam Lopez
No he's literally just "I am evil because I am evil muahahaha"
Lucas Sanchez
Shit thread.
Parker Smith
t. literal brainlet
Christian Adams
Yes
He had a genuinely interesting backstory, a fun personality and well developed relationships with both the protagonists and other villains
That's a good way of putting it
dumb
Adrian Myers
>Malos
>Villain
No he wasn't
>was Malos a good Character
Hoo boy yes
Luis Brown
He was evil because the people who bond with a blade imprint bits of their personality onto them.
The first person Malos bonded with was a spiteful man who saw humanity's struggle to persevere as futile, and believed that their God had abandoned them after his venture into the heavens failed to illicit any response from him.
Couple that with Malos essentially being a Christ-like figure with unimaginable power, and we wound up with a a villain who felt that if his apathetic father couldn't be bothered to save his people as they slowly died, that he should just destroy them first and get it over with.
Christopher Jones
Post it
Brandon Wright
Absolutely.
Camden White
Blades take on the personality of whoever woke them up. It's so the blades dont have a massive conflict of interest and betray every driver.
But Amalthus was SO EVIL that betrayal and dominance became part of Malos's programming.
Jace Peterson
More than that, Malos was evil because he truly believed destruction/death was what the world wished for, not only from Amalthus' imprint but from parsing the data accumulated by his core as a Master Blade.
Basically, Logos core data + Amalthus impulse = Malos, living embodiment of mankind's age-old self-destruction intents and self-hatred, Pneuma core data + Addam impulse = Mythra, living embodiment of mankind's age-old self-preservation intents and desire for salvation.
Angel Barnes
Malosblade when?
Michael Roberts
It was never meant to be
Caleb Gonzalez
Best theme
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Robert Anderson
I hope Malos becomes the final party member in Xenoblade 3, adding a Monado user to the party.
Landon Walker
based
Aaron Hughes
He wasn't a good boy. He was the best boy.
Alexander Cruz
Yes, best part of the game.
Easton Reed
Yes
Christopher Jones
>not only from Amalthus' imprint but from parsing the data accumulated by his core as a Master Blade.
Why do you figure that? Klaus's explanation and Malos's profile from the artbook just say it was Amalthus, nothing about it coming from his core.
Ian Miller
He was honestly the worst character in Xenoblade 2. He's just generic bad guy, born bad and died bad. His motif is literally "I hate you all and I'm better so I'll kill you all" and just because his driver is evil too. No twist, no interesting background, just a one-dimensional villain with a forced, out-of-character redemption moment during death.
Even that edgy fucker of Jin is miles better than him.
Christian Jenkins
>with a forced, out-of-character redemption moment during death.
If you think any of that was out of character, you weren't paying much attention at all.
Austin Jackson
>a forced, out-of-character redemption moment during death.
You're saying the guy who felt his existence was trapped because he knew the most about the Blade system learning that there was actually a way out at the very end was forced?
Blake Flores
Yeah no, fuck that. Pulling out the stupid trope of "realizing he was the bad guy all along and regretting his actions only at death" makes zero fucking sense, considering he was literally programmed to be evil just like Amalthus.
Parker Gomez
Imagine being this illiterate.
Owen Mitchell
>realizing he was the bad guy all along and regretting his actions only at death
Dumbass.
Josiah Carter
He's an entertaining villain, that's for sure. Also he was right.
Caleb Cruz
No seas engreído, pequeña mierda!
Luke Hall
He realized he was the bad guy when he met Jin. The whole point that differentiates Malos from Amalthus is that Malos had people he bonded with that let him see other sides of himself and the world. And that difference in perspective let him realized how much of a piece of shit he was and drove him into self-aware self-hatred
Camden Johnson
the final battle with him in torna was kino so yes
Oliver Jenkins
I didn't know I wanted this combo.
Andrew Robinson
Malos did.
They were his dying words.
Elijah Moore
Well, he partially did. He wanted to meet Rex earlier, but he laughed off the whole Driver thing.
Kayden Myers
Meeting Rex earlier implies they wouldn't have settled it earlier without either dying.
Rex technically isn't Mythra's driver until the end credits sequence, either.
Daniel Torres
>Meeting Rex earlier implies they wouldn't have settled it earlier without either dying.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say here, but I don't see how what Malos says implies that. He says "If only I had met you sooner, just think of the worlds I might've seen" - to me, that means he thinks if he had met Rex earlier, his point might've gotten through without either of them dying. There'd be no reason for him to include the bit about 'seeing other worlds' if he just thought that it'd end up in the same conclusion.
And I dunno what Mythra has to do with any of that, but Rex is definitely her Driver before the credits sequence. He becomes Pyra and Mythra's Driver way back in the beginning when he touches their core crystal. The resonation at the end when he reawakens them is more 'traditional' since they're in a core state then, but it doesn't really mean that the first one wasn't just as valid.
Aiden Harris
>Basically, Logos core data + Amalthus impulse = Malos, living embodiment of mankind's age-old self-destruction intents and self-hatred, Pneuma core data + Addam impulse = Mythra, living embodiment of mankind's age-old self-preservation intents and desire for salvation.
I love this explanation, it's actually beautiful pottery
Kevin Green
"If only I had met you sooner, just think of the worlds I might've seen" pretty obviously says he would have gone with him.
Jaxon Johnson
He was a good antagonist, he's too multi-faceted to say he's a straight-up villain.
Josiah Perez
>Blades take on the personality of whoever woke them up
Are you telling me Addam is a slut and that's why Mythra is the way she is?
Jordan Clark
malos means the bad ones in spanish
Isaac Wood
Dunno who that is but he's handsome
Levi Butler
Sure, but his reaction to Rex's response and "there was only one Driver for me" explicitly shows that Rex's interpretation wasn't what he wanted.
Christopher Gray
why the fuck were him and Jin not obtainable in NG+
Jose Allen
He's a very attractive murderous sword-computer-man.
Because Monolith Soft are sadists.
David Rogers
Did they just design that guy after Guts?
Kevin Ramirez
>and full plate armor
I guess everyone is gay once in a while damn
Colton White
malos's and jin designs look like nomura just drew bootleg weaboo guts and griffith and called it a day
Asher Cox
I'm going to be mad about this until the day I die.
At least Jin was in Torna.
Gabriel Wilson
I don't give a shit. I played the game for the combat, music and exploration. Didn't really pay attention to the cutscenes. Best JRPG in the past 5 years by a long shot.
Carson Watson
but if you played it for the music, you missed out on a fairly decent portion of that if you weren't paying attention to cutscenes at all
Anthony Bailey
>Malos
>"mal" literally means "bad"
WOOOOAAAAHHH...
Angel Thompson
No, he was an amazing villain.
Alexander Cook
next you'll tell me that they literally named the girl with the fire powers fire and the girl with the light powers light
Isaiah Baker
I fucking love After Hope and Despair. Xeno always has the best final battle tunes
Oliver Ramirez
>hikari is a light blade
>homura is a fire blade
>nya is a cat blade
Austin Harris
>byakko is a white tiger blade
>genbu is a big turtle titan
>seiryu is a dragon titan
>suzaku is a masculine bird blade that also has tits for some reason
Luke Hall
Malos is cute!
Colton Sanders
It's pretty obvious the point was more like wishing his first driver was someone like Rex. Maybe a stretch to meeting Rex before his group had finally decided on their end game plan, but that still seems like it was set in stone when he was first awakened, so kind of moot.
Alexander Rivera
Malos is the reliable big bro with a heart of gold we all want
Adrian Collins
Absolutely not. I thought he was a dumb boring side character.
Then he kept turning up
again
and again
never getting remotely interesting
After finishing 2, I went back to 1, and Jesus, the jump in quality. It's quite sad
Owen Taylor
>It's pretty obvious the point was more like wishing his first driver was someone like Rex. Maybe a stretch to meeting Rex before his group had finally decided on their end game plan, but that still seems like it was set in stone when he was first awakened, so kind of moot.
See, I'm pretty sure the point IS that Malos is finally acknowledging that it wasn't entirely set in stone. He's acquiescing to the point Rex has been trying to make for the entire final boss fight - that his 'role' wasn't something he was locked in to, and he did have a choice in it.
Jordan Russell
Jason Lewis
>Big bro
Middle bro.
Liam Edwards
Quick reminder Alvis abandoned his family he had to leave them because he had a master plan, and will fix everything in XC3
Jackson Nelson
Doesn't stop him from canonically being an aniki, user.
Ayden Rogers
has that dude released his nia analysis yet?
Isaiah Miller
he's the bro that didn't run away to the big city with dad
Kevin Jenkins
He's doing a Nia one? This should be a really interesting one, actually. How do we "follow" him?
Grayson Hall
Evan Allen
I want this artist to quit drawing shit that makes me sad.
I think the guy has a twitter where he posts them, but I don't know what it's called.
David Reyes
He was an okay antagonist.
Amalthus was a shitty villain.
Isaac Sanders
I think Amalthus has some interesting characterization on paper, but the way the game presents him is pretty awful.
Ethan Wilson
Malos fucking deserved better, I hope he cameos in future games and gets to hang out with his whole family
Hunter Howard
Malos as a Shulk echo when?
Nathaniel King
I swear to God if X2 doesn't let us pilot Faces and Sirens...
Bentley Adams
If X2's DLC doesn't have crossover mechs like XB2 had crossover Blades, Monolith are fucking idiots.
Liam Barnes
>no Malos spirit in Ultimate
I want to believe.
Ian Green
His whole motivation literally only exist because he copied a furry bastard's hatred for humanity when he was activated. By far the dumbest villain ever.
Ryan Butler
It's disappointing to see people still missing the point this hard.