Recently been playing through this after hating it originally. I think in hindsight it's actually one of the better FF's with a coherent plot that actually touches on some good notes with some nicely written dialogue, the story is a lot better than spiky haired teens save the world.
I get that it's a little unfinished and had its development fucked but the Job system in zodiac age is a big improvement imo, makes each character feel a lot more specialised than the broad license board in the original.
At Golmore Jungle now, I beat the game on PS2 but never bothered with the extras or side content so i'm doing the marks and sidequests in this one, I do hate how you have to steal everything constantly for cash but i guess it's better than just attacking and healing when low on health
The only reason this game got suck backlash is because it has sort of that MMO battle system vibe to it and Vaan/Penelo were shoved in there without much reason. But I'm with you, I've come to like it much more over the years and actually appreciate it more than what some people consider "classics".
Elijah Hall
The voice acting is laughably shit Protagonist is a faggot Party members are terrible Tons of gay corridors Forgettable ost Bad villain Super boss that takes literally 4 hours to defeat (dude 20 hp bars lmao) Braindead combat where you can drop the controller and watch the AI fight for you Broken as fuck job system that's even worse in the zodiac age version
Camden Edwards
It's the last great Final Fantasy that Squenix made, and it wasn't their usual dev team. Figures.
Caleb Wilson
Although the game is enjoyable, the plot and progression of it I actually feel is one of its weakest points.
I dislike Vaan but he falls off after the first 1/3rd and is pretty useful in gameplay regardless. I disagree with the party members, I like them all save for vaan and penelo.
The remade audio is a massive improvement. I agree for the super boss but I fail to see how the gambit system is any less mindless than just mashing attack.
And you're just plain wrong about the job system
Elijah Gomez
It became one of my favorite FF games after I gave Zodiac Age a try. I guess this is Square’s “Breath of the Wild”, but done right. Equally ambitious.
I love how the world feels alive and how there’s tons of content buried below the main story path.
Evan Mitchell
Good and Final Fantasy do not belong in the same sentence shit game, shit franchise, shit company It's literally the japanese equivalent of EA making a battlefield or cod every year garbage
Hudson Williams
>Protagonist is a faggot But Ashe was married to a guy
Jayden Wright
I hated it originally too but now that it lets you speed up the walking etc. it made the game a LOT better. I even platinum'd it even though I had other games to get to but being able to speed the time wasting walking up so much made it tolerable
Lincoln Clark
If you play the zodiac age, yiazmat takes 30 minutes or less. The rest are just opinions. Gambits still take adjusting for some enemies and that’s just how job systems are. The more powerful you get, the more powerful you are. If you want a challenge, stop overleveling in rpgs.
Charles Bailey
FFXII's voice acting has been almost universally praised. You have to have absolute shit taste or be a contrarian faggot to think it's "laughably shit"
Joseph Carter
I like XII a lot but whenever I replay it, the pacing of the gambit system is really awful. I'm at Mt Bur Omicace and half of my characters are really only doing auto attacks because there really isnt anything else for them to do.
I know at end game you have your teams fully figured out but damn its a slog for a very long time.
Leo Nguyen
I think the speed option cuts out the worst parts of the game for sure, particularly some of the huge walkways or corridors in some of the areas.
It was pretty impressive for the time but now is kind of tedious.
why even post lmao have your (you)
Yeah I've found a lot of little quests and shit i missed when i played through first time.
Caleb Morris
>Recently been playing through this after hating it originally. I think in hindsight it's actually one of the better FF's
That's what happens to most people with FF12. The game was way ahead of its time in every single way and the political story was too mature for most people back then, especially since they were coming off FFX and its super melodramatic anime story.
The characters are too smart and interesting for the average 14 year old and the combat has too much depth too, so most people ended up copying one or two sets of gambits from other people and let the game play itself then started meme'ing about how awful the gameplay was and "offline mmo lmao".
Although the original ff12 had some glaring flaws, IZJS/TZA fixed them and made the game even better, but vanilla was good to begin with.
vaan in the beginning is kinda trash the rest are pretty good and balthier is god tier
Eli Walker
Why not chain enemies for dosh if you need it that badly?
Mason Watson
>why even post we're on Yea Forums? how is this even a question fucking retarded SE bootlicker, kill yourself
William Sanchez
It has unironically the best voice acting of any video game ever.
Liam Cox
>Everyone sounds so british that they can piss tea and shit the queen >Vaan and Penelo are American for some reason
Jayden Campbell
>the two street rats dont talk like nobles
wow no kidding?
Thomas Carter
Shit story. Shit gameplay.
How can you guys like this?
Jose Turner
>I do hate how you have to steal everything constantly for cash go back to the lethicite mine and run up and down the bridge, skeleton soldiers keep spawning, sometimes 50+ and you can collect their drops and sell them for early game gil stack and grind levels, killing the same type of monster in a row increases its droprate and rarity of the drops
Grayson Scott
They followed the old convention in giving the Imperials (bad guys) English accents, whereas the Rebels (heroes) are American
Oliver Young
Dalmascans are American, Archadians are British, Bhujerbans are Middle Easterners, Rozarrians are Spanish. It was done intentionally by the localization team to let the player know where someone's from without explicitly telling you.
Evan Ross
Hey user what's your favorite game?
Aiden Evans
>How can you guys like this?
Good story. Good gameplay.
How can you guys not like this?
Ian Hall
FFXII is kino, even if its story is blatantly unfinished. Zodiac Age only made it better, with the new music and almost perfect reorchestrations of old tracks. 4X speedup also saves the side content as you can just boost through any grindy crap to the real content.
Henry James
I have no clue where to go. I escaped from the dungeon with the sky pirates, headed back to the main city, the sky pirates fucked off, I returned to the dude in lowtown and got the prisoner as a party member. Where to?
Isaiah Gonzalez
Witcher 3
Ian Wilson
My galaxy brain moment was talking to all the NPCs after significant plot development. Before the parade, they would all be talking about the consul and the empire. After the parade, they'd be talking about the good first impression and the upcoming fete. After the fete they talk about the palace raiders, how they heard vaan got thrown into nalbina, and how they saw some scraggly bloke wandering around lowtown. All optional.
Nicholas Adams
Talk about ffxiv you fucking dickwad.
Isaiah Foster
>input lag even on the PC version This will not do.
Caleb Jenkins
Shit story. Shit gameplay.
How can you like it?
Easton Ward
The game has an insane amount of optional dialogue. I spent 100+ hours on my PS2 run because I'd go out of my way to talk to everyone after each major event.
Adrian Young
Migelo, to find out that Penelo's been taken. If not that, the Sandsea to talk to Balthier.
Andrew Perry
Actually I think Migelo is with Balthier in Sandsea, so just go there.
Nicholas Campbell
>The voice acting is laughably shit
If you're going to bait you shouldn't put the most obvious one at the top of the list retard.
James Ross
Too bad money couldn't even buy you good weapons or armor
Matthew Rogers
I'll go try to find him once I get home.
Hudson Wilson
>when you reorchestrate the imperial march from a game based on Star Wars >literally make it the John Williams imperial march
That's not all that has changed with the Zodiac Age version, there is too many changes to list. Here are some of the ones that I know.
-Espers now unlock extra jobs for your character allowing you increase their power, this also means though that until you unlock Belias the Gigas you're hampered in how strong you can be.
-Zodiac Spear is no longer the strongest weapon in the game and is much easier to acquire.
-Names of items, loot tables a majority of them have all changed, there aren't exploitable treasure urns anymore like in Raithwalls tomb that allow you to get one of the best swords in the game that early.
-Extra hunts, extra rare game with some changed and balanced stats on most fights to reflect the change to a job based system.
Needless to say that Zodiac age and the OG version are completely different in difficulty, early game is just as easy with substantial difficulty increases in the Zodiac Age version because it's not as exploitable and you need to progress the story to get stronger and acquire Espers.
Daniel Carter
>any game >coherent plot Where do you think you are?
Carter Carter
I got to where you're heading to Arcadia after the events of Mt. Bur-whatever and uninstalled. Thankfully I got FFX for free thanks to the Steambux from the sale and it's comical how much more fun it is from the get-go even though it's not my favorite entry.
People say if you don't like 12 you don't "get" the easy story, but Tactics and Story are both in the same world, have more complicated plots, and aren't a snoozefest.
wait, people actually think the FF12 voice acting is even bearable? what the fuck it's literally the worst voice acting I've ever heard in my life. I actually had to google some youtube video to check my pirated copy didnt have some replaced voice acting files to troll pirates or something.
Julian Young
Zodiac is way easier overall. I remember grinding for hours in OG and still barely clearing bosses, while I waltzed through TZA with no problems. You do no damage in OG.
Cooper Cruz
>The characters are too smart and interesting Lol the game is fun but the story nor the character's are particularly interesting or unique. It takes a major brainlet to boast about FF12 in regards to these aspects.
Brandon Morales
Vayne did nothing wrong. Except for the things he did wrong.
Levi Johnson
ZA kind of made it look worse compared to PCSX2, and it's significantly easier than FF12 vanilla or even IZJS.
There are mods apparently though.
Elijah Baker
Can anyone suggest me their pcsx2 settings? Trying to make look as good as possible. Has anyone tried shaders like sweetfx?
They're vastly different experiences. X was the refined classic turn-based model, while XII was revolutionary and bold in it's time.
Angel Torres
>"the people will only grow to hate you more" >"and should I pardon them, they will only rise up again" The man did what he had to do, and that he did for the good of humanity.
I think I made that webm and all I did was add slight bloom and slight saturation using built in PCSX2 shaders. You could just use that saturation slider in fact.
The game's art style and visuals are fine, there's no reason or even benefit in changing how it looks.
Charles Hill
Who here /WyrmHeroBlade/?
Blake Anderson
I'm using the struggle for freedom difficulty mod and it made the waterways the most difficult first dungeon I've ever done in a video game, no exaggeration. The difficulty drops a bit after the first 10 hours but it is still very much enjoyable.
So much wrong with this comment. The only thing you got right are mods. The OG version of the game had balance issues, which is why they changed it, it allowed any character to snowball in strength with the abundance of Battle Lore and Magick Potency on the board that was 6x larger.
If you found the OG version to be harder you're pants on head retarded.
Christian Scott
Set this gambit on a thief Steal - enemy hp=100
Jayden Walker
Thanks for the advice, I just remember an old pcgamer article about emulation and they showcased sone really amazing ffXII screenshots without going into detail on how they achieved them, other than a cursory mention on shaders.
Liam Taylor
Thanks Ondore.
Ethan Hernandez
That's cool but the game still looks like shit unfortunately. There's a mod to remove that awful letterbox though, I suggest you find it.
The OG was easy, IZJS was easier, and ZA is even easier to the point it's not even worth playing without mods. I'm not sure how to explain to you how it's actually easier though, since you don't even understand the progression.
They would have just been 1080p images, I think I remember that too but this is ancient news. Probably Kotaku though, no?
Square uses a really bad sharpening filter over their recent remasters. FF9 looks especially appalling
Justin Thompson
>The voice acting is laughably shit >Party members are terrible >Tons of gay corridors >Forgettable ost I didn't even know it was possible to be this retarded
There's a little write up on it here but basically they're using a filter called "Emboss" I think it was, or unsharp mask I forget now it's been a while since I shitposted about this game. But yeah it looks fucking bad, and FF12 has a weird color filter as well as some issues with the new shaders. Like SSAO blotting out eyeballs.
Andrew Smith
I don't know user, I like the game's visuals. I like games that defy hardware limitations, you wouldn't think this was originally a PS2 game at first sight. The simplistic level geometry and smallish areas betray it before the graphics themselves do. I'll check out the letterbox mod though.
Japanese voice actors don't give Fran and Penelo annoying voicez Ashe isn't gay Only Vaan and Penelo are terrible Ivalice is the best world and has the best lore across Final Fantasy OST was fine, better than XIII for sure Vayne did nothing wrong Yiazmat doesn't take that long in Zodiac Age, but he's supposed to be a marathon boss anyway You don't need to use gambits, because you can turn them off if you hate them so much, but they add dynamism to the game, the alternative is press X to auto-win against monsters like in the rest of the series How is the job system broken?
Parker Bell
Nothing romantic happens with ashe the entire game, shes a massive cockblock
Jason Howard
Look how blurry and washed out and smudged everything in that image is. If they didn't add those ugly shaders it would have been fine and would look amazing.
I don't have the same images on PCSX2 for the images you've posted, but both of those scenes would have looked better emulated even with PCSX2's depth of field upscaling issue.
The models are worse which would be fine if the animations weren't also worse. Infinitely worse even. 99% of the environment textures are worse too, and they were all redone.
