Itt: remasters/definitive editions worse than the originals

Metro 2033 and Metro Reduxe

AC 2

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Obligatory

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>switch version uses the old lightning
>frame pacing is so bad that it feels even worse to play than vanilla FPStown

RE:Remake HD

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Is there a remaster that isn't garbage?

Kingdom Hearts

Nothing will ever top the silent hill HD collection for worst remaster.

yakuza 1+2 (Kimawi)

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not sure if remaster, but the newer versions of KoF 98 and 02 were fine

>Make a unique control scheme that makes you pay attention to both screens and rewards you for that.
>throw it all away for smartphone money.

Re:Zero
(except the modifications of character textures)

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Turok 2, it cranks a 9/10 game to a 15/10 and definitive way it was always meant to be played

The updated version of Oracina of Time is censored, thus making the original one better.

Are those the ones with the 3D backgrounds instead of the sprite art? That's an auto nope.

The fuck is there in OoT that needs censorship

Kirby Super Star Ultra
Ocarina of Time 3D (though people get autistic about the lighting changes)
Fire Red and Leaf Green (Unless you like Crobat)
Muramasa Rebirth

God of War 3 remaster but that's only because it's the same exact game but now it runs at 60fps and it's full HD.

is that original gc or dolphin with enhanced graphics?
looks way more crisp than i remember it

only the new stages, and to be fair original kof 2002 had very poor backgrounds

And if you don't like the rebalanced mode you can play the original without it running at sub 20fps constantly.

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Right is better you moron there is more detail

Are you fucking blind HD looks much better than the GC. Shows much more detail

Looks much better on PC

dolphin
not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

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One of the few modern era licensed games that are u ironically good.

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Wii looks like trash

Metro 2033 series

I'm afraid I don't understand what these webms are meant to show
Also, saying GC on the image when you are using dolphin is being disingenuous

I didn't know this existed, time to dust off my ps3

I second this, although to be fair those were proper reMAKES and not reMASTERs.

>don't mind the mirror eh

Incorrect

what game is that?

Still mad

The lighting is completely fucked in the HD rerelease.
The point isn't that "new game looks worse than a Gamecube game" it's just comparing the original visuals of the game to the remastered visuals.

how the hell is that going to mean that the original is better looking, when you are increasing the original graphics by a shit ton that wasn't possible on the console it was made to be played on?

The amount of cut unique content from 2 and Majima's Everywhere in 1 makes me discard the remakes.
I still hope that somehow the PS3 ports of 1 and 2 get translated tho, having no loadscreens for fights in 1 already improves that game a lot.

>I'm afraid I don't understand what these webms are meant to show
They fucked up lighting. The shadows dont match the light sources like in the original.
Also they removed animated background almost everywhere. See
>saying GC on the image when you are using dolphin is being disingenuous
No its not. Dolphin just upscales the graphics without altering them. All it does is running the game at higher resolution

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it's ridiculous how downgraded 2033 redux is, especially since that's the version most people played

Last light seems to be more of a colour chance, albeit redux is washed out unless you lower contrast or w/e

Came here to post this

>when you are increasing the original graphics by a shit ton
All the emulator does is running the game in higer resolution instead of 640x528 and with higher framerate, you fucktard.

>Sell games on a bundle
>Spyro still requires download
WTF is that bullshit?

Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
It's fucking terrible.

Final Fantasy IV DS edition.

It's a crock that they don't even give you the original version, with all the graphical gimmicks Definitive Edition adds that you can't shut off, I can't run it on my toaster, at least I only spent 2 bucks on it

>All the emulator does is running the game in higer resolution instead of 640x528
yes, by several times it's original resolution, plus anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering
but user was specifically focusing on lighting, so whatever

>HR Director's Cut improves parts of gameplay like boss fights
>But textures and shaders are much worse than original because shit had to run on WiiU

is it really that bad? from some youtube comparisons I checked it seems to be hit or miss, shittier in some parts but also better in others. but I only played the original

>it took until this version until you could control the fucking camera and the driving section wasn't a nightmare anymore
>other versions were never patched

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No fucking way

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is it worth tracking down a copy of this?

The Turok 1 and 2 remasters make the originals completely obsolete

>definitive edition drops the fedora
uneuphoric

That fog meandering in the back is pretty spoopy. They did a good job in the HD to be honest.

yea but the sky lightning and trees in the back are worse.

situations like this are the most annoying, when both versions have an upside and downside, which do you even choose?

>That mirror
Absolutely disgusting

i too play computer games for the shadows

point of the thread is graphical comparison, no need to be butthurt

>ALL WE DID WAS MASSIVELY INCREASE THE RESOLUTION
>IT MEANS NOTHING
fucking retard, kill yourself you REmake obsessed nigger

buttmad :D

It's not even the graphics, they reworked things like the Zora swimming and I have no idea why.

>not understanding what the images are meant to be comparing
How can you people be so fucking stupid?

It's part of the overall graphical presentation of the game, you ignorant nigger. And specially in a game like RE which is a survival horror, where lighting and shadows play an important role in the game's atmosphere.

I'm sure ebay has 100 entries for under $20.
It's not exactly a rare game.

>which do you even choose?
well, if you dont own a gamecube and dont want to pirate and play on emulator; i'd assume you'd pick the pc port
it only looks "bad" when you compare them side to side; it's nothing like the silent hill 2 remaster or others

why are you getting angry my shadowy friends, i am agreeing with you that shadows are vital, if not the most important part, of computer games and why i enjoy them.

I'm a third worlder sadly, but I did find a copy for 10$, what I mean is it good?
yea but I have autism, IIRC I didn't bother with some Hannibal movie because I couldn't find a consensus on which of the version is better and I couldn't be bothered to go through it twice

>user doesn't agree with the conclusion he wants user to draw from his comparison webms
>"You must be butthurt"

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>try to sarcastically dismiss clearly inferior shadows in thread about nitpicking graphical differences in re-releases
>not butthurt
picko uno buddy

Crash controlled like ass, spyro played like a dream.

>spent years complaining about DEHR's piss filter
>director's cut removes piss filter
>game looks and runs like shit without it

How were they able to take the call in that year?

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It's a nice b tier horror game with tons of cheese.
Make sure it's the PS3 version or you'll deal with the worst implementation of tank controls ever.

yea I specifically mean the PS3 version, I played the OG on PC for a bit and it was gnarly

I think its Sleeping Dogs

I'm still kinda torn on the SoTC remake, like the game looks nice with a higher resolution and level of detail, but I think there's a lot that the original did for atmosphere that the remake dropped the ball on.

I at least commend them for releasing a patch that almost exclusively addresses the problem

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All of them

Is buying it on PS3 or X360 the only way to play the original version now?

I thought they were remakes?

I pick both, buddy. Going out of your way to reply to someone you say is "missing the point of the thread" to call him butthurt just makes you look butthurt. If you really didn't care you would just ignore him especially considering he was obviously trying to bait a response. You newfags need to learn to ignore the retards every now and then. Regardless you objectively look shitter shattered and that's what I'll go with.

tl;dr butthurtinho

Being full 3D makes it soulless. Gameplay-wise, it was probably better though.

Technically it isn't fucked. They just need to put the light source on their proper place which is more disappointing that they didn't.

Yeah you are. I'm not even the guy you initially replied to yet now you are projecting your baited ass onto me lmao

t. butthurtinho

Deadly Premonition

Piracy.
But otherwise yeah, tough tits. They pulled the same bullshit for Dark Souls Remastered but for some reason you can still buy OG DS2.

or you can pirate the OG PC version

Luckily the director's cut didn't replace the original version in your steam library but since you can't buy the original version anymore if you don't already have it then you have to pirate it. Same for Metro 2033.

see

The original engine used a lot of tricks to simulate what 7th gen game engines could do natively, like ambient occlusion.
That effect in particular lend an eerie otherworldly look to the game, and particularly the colossi in the original PS2 version (and the PS3 remaster which was essentially the same game just running at a higher resolution).
Just compare the remake to this upscale of the game running on PCSX2 youtube.com/watch?v=V1GlCs4d9zM
Don't get me wrong, SotC PS4 looks beautiful, but part of the artistry that gave the original its distinctive and unmistakable look is replaced with modern tech that, in turn, gives it a more familiar presentation similar to most other contemporary games.

>They pulled the same bullshit for Dark Souls Remastered
words can't contain my butthurt at this. thankfully there's a scene version with the latest updates available (MULTi9-PROPHET)

I will never not be mad about this

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The 60fps on the pro does give it a nice feel.

I picked up a cheap key for Metro 2033 from G2A a couple of months ago, but scalpers have really been going nuts for OG games removed in favour of shitty remasters, though, IIRC a Dark Souls key is 100$

Also technically not remaster, but Alpha Protocol got removed and it's already 10$ on scalper markets

Does it work with Wulf's Dark Souls Connectivity Mod? Is DSCM even active anymore? It's been a few years since I checked.

ANY METRO GAME
>original game looks fine
>plays fine
>OH NO REDUX TIME
>HOPE YOU LIKE HORRIBLE UNPLAYABLE GAMEBREAKING GLITCHES
>GRAB YOUR WEAPON BEFORE YOU LEAVE ARTYOM
>GRAB
>YOUR
>GLUED TO THE TABLE
>WEAPON

holy shit this guy is real
I knew I saw that absolute unit somewhere

Fucking retard

I have no idea, I never tried it, I just checked because I plan to replay the game in the immediate future and there's no way my autism can abide the changes the '''remastered''' version made

MM was indeed worse.

>removes knife melee attacks for press E to instant takedown animation
Fuck you 4A.

Why isn't there a mod to fix the lighting? I thought being on PC means this things are usually non-issues.

I personally like it better.

>usually
more like ''sometimes''

Shadows are fucked.

What a terrible fucking cover, christ

>garbage games get garbage remasters
who'd thunk

Konami makes me hate life. Every step is a misstep with Konami. They just straight up kill all their franchises, fuck up ports, and never port the shit that people actually want like Harmony of Despair.
All because some fucking boomers in Japan love gambling with pachinko machines themed after video games they played when they were younger.

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>Every step is a misstep with Konami
E3 2010 was perfection.

>majora's mask garbage

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>muh spooky moon
Zelda sucks senpai.

>Egg shaped hitbox in a game with precision platforming
VV is fucking retarded, but besides that and a few niggles, the Crash Trilogy turned out fine
Spyro on the other hand was a complete shitshow
>Fucking up background colors
>Horrid framerate and horrid motionblur making it on of the few games to give me a headache, which even VR games don't do
>Retarded character models

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Retard

>original metro
>can get 3 weapons at the start
>metro redux
>the moment you get your third weapon one is deleted into the netherrealm

What a shitty start to every playthrough, unless you lower your difficulty.

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>They removed the original on Steam too
Still fucking pissed about this.

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HIROSHIMOOOOOOOOOOT

some dude somewhere is wondering why hes got some dude looking discontent in his wallpaper dump

NANI
MOOT!?

>just ignore the other 95% of the game

Old Japanese Judo Champ

The textures and models look so much better on PC just because lighting is bad doesn't make it complete shit all over.

The PC one overall looks better

>Ctrl+ F "fable"
>Zero results

Anniversary looked like fucking garbage, the mod support was broken as fuck, and overall it was a giant grift in the sense that the developers made vague promises that "if anniversary does well we might be able to port Fable 2 to PC!" and then it didn't happen, ever.

Jesus Christ you nitpicking faggot EVERYTHING on the HD pc version looks a ton better than the GC except for lighting which isn't a massive fucking deal when you have everything else upscaled to look great.

That's hilarious.

You know you can emulate the GC version on PC right?
I swear, people like you are the absolute fucking worst. Defending shitty ports of games just because they're on PEE CEE D000d.

How do I know that you prefer the botched PC ports of San Andreas, Halo and NFS Most Wanted? they're on PEEEEE CEEE D0000000000000D SO THEY ARE BETTERRR HUR DUR

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Is this not supposed to be Geoff?

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Fuck you.

MTA doesn't work on emulated versions dummy

not him but proper lighting is honestly the biggest aspect of making a game look good
just look at enabling fullbright on a source game or anything like that and you'll see what I mean

Jesus Christ.

>it's just comparing the original visuals
but those are not the original visuals friend, it's running on a emulator

Right is literally dripping SOUL i can almost taste it

What was the reason that Renderware shit the bed so hard on PC?

>giving a shit about multiplayer in GTA
what a faggot

Are you fucking retarded? This image is obviously making the original look better.

Yes, for the most part I'm sorry to reveal it to you but PC lighting and graphics are incredibly high compared to consoles. Comparing ports on each console is also fucking retarded when it's only just a fucking port who gives a fuck.

Halo is trash. NFS is trash. San Andreas has been forgotten after V

That's urine.

Does it taste like piss?

It's a bittersweet taste.
One might even say an acquired taste

The main mod for fixing GTA SA constantly reintroduces missing stuff to the point that pc is kinda the complete version now. The author is even working on adding full 60fps support without it breaking physics.

I was about to ask if you were retarded, but I don't even need to. You're retarded.

It's nothing to do with Renderware. It's because most of the post processing was PS2 hardware specific, and instead of coming up with DirectX equivalents they just gutted them. PC fags didn't care because they could play at 1200p without the effects ruining muh sharp edges

You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, do you?

>human framerates
>R3 jumping
>no auto adding consumables to belt
>you can actually connect to people
Anyone who actually played these games knows Remaster shits all over PTDE, even with the matchmaking and lighting changes.

they invariably fuck up lighting

Presumably the Xbox version of 3/Vice City/San Andreas had the same problem as the PC version then?

How's SA on PS4?

Turok 1
Turok 2 (2017 PC port)
Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition
Blood Fresh Supply

Oh I see it now
Yeah that is a bit disappointing

>>you can actually connect to people
Needing mods to fix it meme aside, DSCM is far superior.

Not how it works, only one thumbnail gets fucked

The game was dead when DSCM came out.

>switch version uses the old lightning
I doesnt. Retard.

Halo 2: Anniversary

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>cutscenes aren't rendered real time with the same models as in-game
Trash.

3 and VC were ported to Xbox by R* Vienna who went out of their way to improve the graphics from the PS2/PC original.
SA was ported by R* North and so is mostly identical to the botched PC version.

Of course, pic related is PC vanilla and PC with mods to match PS2. But we're talking about the original games as sold, not modded 10 years down the line.

PS2 version emulated at 1080p

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Why are people always oblivious to Silent Patch? The dude works so hard to add all the console stuff even to this day but you fags will constantly complain.

Good lord imagine being this retarded.

Stop using SA as an example since it's pretty much a fixed port at this point. People who don't know what they're talking about will use it as an excuse to shit on the PC version when it's now the definitive way to play it.

Are you two legitimately down syndromes or something
You think I took the exact same screenshot in the exact same place at the exact same time with the exact same pixel count and aspect ratio using the original PS2 version?

Please, fucking apply yourselves. Just for once.

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Just wondering, does the ps4 port of San Andreas keep that absolute soul on the right picture?

> playing on platforms other than PC, kek
> L3 jumping, brainlet.
> good?
> You already could

Remaster was a dumpster fire.

They are, glad you saw the light, though the HD remaster didn't.

It's not a port, it's emulation. The post processing is identical to PS2.

Crash Bandicoot is one of the dumbest most pointless unfun games ever made regardless. It’s impossible for the remake to be any worse than the original because they’re both 0/10

>> playing on platforms other than PC, kek
60fps hack was absolute dogshit, you had to toggle it off for jumps and your rolls were shorter. Not to mention you couldn't even sustain 60fps no matter your hardware.
>> You already could
Not long after the game died.

>Crash is a 0/10
>never played an actual bad game like Superman 64 or Bubsy 3D
I'd envy you for never experiencing a real bad game but you're still retarded.

VV was also very good with redoing the Crash music just not heavy enough on the bass guitar, Spyro's reignited music sounds like fucking garbage and not just because they decided to slap in the context sensitive gimmick.

1) Nicalis
2) NISA

>not appreciating the high-level CG for just cutscenes
Good fucking lord.

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Real time cutscenes visually indistinguishable from gameplay was a selling point of Halo. The remakes shit all over that.

You didn't have to toggle shit, I know, I replayed it just a month ago. DS is an easy game to maintain 60fps too, how shit is your computer?

How's it on Switch?

>Real time cutscenes visually indistinguishable from gameplay was a selling point of Halo
Citation needed.
Halo was always sold on the combat and multiplayer. In-game cutscenes were just cheaper and easier to make.

It's the same as the smartphone version but it has an extra teaser for a sequel that will never happen plus extra pointer controls that need to be recalibrated every 5 seconds because the gyro alone ain't good enough to keep a steady aim.

Try getting the Iaito or doing the Lower Burg skip with the 60fps hack and get back to me. You'll lose all momentum halfway through.

>DS is an easy game to maintain 60fps too, how shit is your computer?
It's not about hardware, you moron, drops are inherent to a half-baked hack of an atrocious port.

Good to hear

So left is PC modded to look like PS2? The textures are made worse on purpose?

Soulless

It's just emulation afaik
youtube.com/watch?v=zot1565hbfk

>cutscenes look completely different than in-game
It's jarring and awful. Completely unnecessary. There might be reasoning for it when we're talking about early 3-D games but not this.

The God of War Saga 5 game collection got out pretty unscathed. Some areas were brightens but I could never see them at all on PS2 so I'm fine with that.

There’s a difference between a badly made game like the ones you listed and a game that is made well but has no redeeming qualities or interesting gameplay

The driving in this game fuck me.
>Hit a newspaper.
>Leave Earths orbit.

For the most part are tone down versions of the PC port so the consoles can run it...usually they change effects or even artstyle to justify the downgrade

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youtube.com/watch?v=brOwBAVxAZI
Koei's biggest embarassment

My only complaint about the Uncharted Collection was the removal of multiplayer in 2 and 3... Would had been nice to see them in 60 FPS though.

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I keep hearing that the first game controls much better, is that true?

>1280x896 with reportedly worse framerate than ps2
I almost considered getting it
Sony fucking sucks

Borderlands 1 Remaster
>make launchers and snipers function like in bl2, removing everything unique about them
>replace inventory screen with the awful and slow bl2 one
>make rare loot extremely common, removing the sense of acomplishment when getting it

Higher resolution =/= better

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Everything Koei Tecmo makes is an embarrassment. They still live in the early days of PS3 (and even have the graphics to prove it)

This game has exactly two things better than the original game: the ability to wear an adorable prinny hat and this amazing glitch that lets you transpose flags between rooms, letting you do things like start the game with the jetpack and get infinite health

wait, i have to put on eye liner for the zombies...

Rebecca has to stay cute 24/7

Dead Rising 2's remake

She looks retarded with that eyeliner tho

>"Remaster" game (port game)
>Break tons of shit
>Have to release patches

>w/e

>and the PS3 remaster which was essentially the same game just running at a higher resolution
Yeah, when you don't care about THE GAME BEING TOTALLY FUCKING BROKEN

They outsource them to shit-tier companies.

Man. All I get out of this webm is that older games were fucking SPOOKY. Now everything is just sudden loud noises and jumpscares. What the fuck went wrong?

do you mean Off the Record, or the ports they made to the PS4 and Xbone?

calm down, bro.
it's just a product you shouldn't base your life around 1 fucking product what's wrong with you.

the left looks better though

The ports

>No mp
>definitive
kek

What part of "I replayed it a month ago" did you fail to understand? the 60fps hack works perfectly nowadays and has for long time.

> It's not about hardware, you moron, drops are inherent to a half-baked hack of an atrocious port.

No, it is not. You will not have a single frame-drop playng DS + dsfix with a normal computer, because it's a graphically easy to run game, always has been.

Ive been playin it and not having problems

The fuck is wrong with Spyro?

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Try the speed runs.
The physics are completely broken.
But I guess you never played the original.

no soul

objectively wrong

Warcraft 3 Reforged.

god i fucking hate the digital license era in spite of how convenient it is for on-release gaman

What were they thinking?

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Elaborate?
I have the PS3 version on my shelf, still untouched

Is it bad that I liked it?

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usually when its on pc it means the fans fix it (for free*)

there's a super easy fix
get Dolphin and play the original game

surprised so many seem to agree, people were defending spyro to the death before it came out
I'm just not a fan of the art style and character redesigns of either. The bandicoots still look really off to me. And wtf were they thinking with sparx, I mean really

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Ok but where's the porn

I too love being unimersed from the game I'm playing and cannot wait to be unable to use the promised mod tools in the PC port to edit cutscenes.

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Deadly Premonition: The Director's Cut shits the bed when you try to play it.

>I play Halo for the immersion
Doesn't even deserve a reaction image

Based retard zoomer.

They lost the original files for the backgrounds and had to use high quality back-ups. That's why. They were able to find them for RE 0 and compare that game to the original and you'll see it's an improvement.

Well shit, the OG Xbox 360 version is way to go then?

says the retard defending a LITERAL ZOOMER FPS game

Still the best

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You guys are out of your fucking minds.

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it is a also in the original game as well. youtube.com/watch?v=Rol6HJ1uVjs

I loved the game on 3ds a lot and then remembered there was a 3d version and decided to try it... what a terrible mistake, that thing didn't last 5 minutes installed.

Probably. The PC version might also be okay but don't take my word on it.

>Halo
>zoomer
Low-tier bait.

Tasteless render cuck.

It's too easy and pretty much a completely different game.

yes
it's the only one worth playing
PS3 has hilariously bad performance
PC constantly crashes/corrupts saves/camera controls are fucked unless you change compatiblity to windows 95, but if you do that you'll crash on a specific part and you'll have to save change comp to w10 then go back to w95 etc.
360 is probably the most stable one

DMC trilogy for PS3.

The other one isn't TERRIBLE, just inferior.

Would have been perfect if they didn't give the dead city a bright ass skybox.
It's DEAD bring me back the dark grey overcast

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Pc version is the best with the dpfix mod

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>Majora's Mask
>garbage

t. retard

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this

To actually answer the question. No. The game is pretty sub par regardless.

Eh, your right, although i got for $5 which is why im playing it there

That's because you made it up faggot

>If I just stand here and avoid eye contact the player won't know I shit myself

No u

Why do so many remasters screw up the lighting? Everything turns out brown and washed out. The same thing happened with Dark Souls.

Okami HD
SOTC/Ico on PS3
MGS HD Collection

Same reason why so many blu ray remasters have a really bad soft look to ""fix"" the film grain.
They are made by people who have no idea what they are doing and weren't involved in the original.

please show me with your finger which part of the picture is more detailed

Yeah, but its always done in the same way. A washed out brown look with warm lighting across most remakes I've seen cannot be adequately explained by everyone just being incompetent. General incompetence would lead to lighting that was still fucked up, but in different ways. But it seems like they all go for the same look. There has to be a reason why people that do remakes choose that look.

This.

It's probably the default look that new engine they ported over has.
Keep in mind that usually outsource their HD Remasters to low tier chink developers