Why the fuck do people play text-based games in 2019?

Don't use words you don't understand.

I agree. Text based games are different because of the engagement with the player through imagination.

Autism.

text-based games are literary the anthithesis of s o y and you've outed yourself as a retard

People with 0 imagination cant enjoy and fap to text games.

Is there some new text based adventure game? I would like to play something recent or at least from the last 10 yrs.

Almost everyone plays fortnite, dota autochess, ubisoft diversity shit and mobile cashgrab.
That doesnt count as "all videogames".

That's sounds fucking gay and for nerds. You might as well fucking play D&D then.

>I can't read

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shut the fuck up bot

>That's sounds
It's pretty evident why you hate pen and paper games.

Based chad poster

Corruption of Champions

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>chose to play VIDEO games
>something defined by visuals
>instead "play" choose your own adventure book with the text on TV instead of a book

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>dynamic system
of text. Woohoo.

Is that the best you got?

>Why do people enjoy something I don't! >:C

Seethe harder, autist.

Does anyone remember that text-based survival zombie game from like over a decade ago? It was one big room with a bunch of users that picked a role and then you'd be able perform actions after a certain amount of time.

I plan to play Zork. Is it any good?

>me no like text! me like movie!
this is how you sound like

This. Fuck reading and fuck Mrs. Jenkins.

(genre) game bad

Video games allow for visuals and sound. Your "dynamic system" is fallaciously complex if it requires ignoring these major aspects.

This is a man of taste that understands the true essence of gaming.

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Yea and movies allow for visuals but some people still prefer books.

lmao have sex

>Endless summer of 07 baby tries to describe what video games should be to an older generation
Cute.

>Video games allow for visuals and sound
Some of them do. These ones don't.

Not him but the text is technically a "visual"

>phoneposting wojak is a complete retard

You're admitting you don't actually like video games.

You're admitting you don't care about video games anymore and just want to fuel your nostalgia.

>These ones don't.
And they are lesser for it.

Incredibly inferior visuals, sure.

FPBP

/thread

>Your "dynamic system" is fallaciously complex if it requires ignoring these major aspects.

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Look at Neo Scavenger if you haven't already.

>I have the reading age of a ten-year-old

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I only play a text-based game if it's a sex game. Specifically animal people fucking each other.

>no argument

Just read a book retard

There are a ton of good concepts stuck in shitty game formats like text because they wouldn't have wide enough appeal to justify making a real game.

"These" aren't video games, go back

What game is he playing?

Garbage non-arguments. Is this really all you have? Boring.

ofc its boring just go play fortnite already god damnit

>playing something with a higher intellectual barrier of entry
>bad or wrong

NEO Scavenger. It's on Steam.

>go back
To school? Yes, you should.

Hey thanks my dude

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>not liking NEO Scavenger
casul

As with every bait thread this week, I'm just stopping in to remind everyone that OP is the sort of unironic retard company you let in whenever you "ironically" shitposted.
Enjoy.

>flash game

Probably the same kind of person to actually do ''IRL shitposting'' as well.

i remember playing my first text adventure w/ actual branching paths as late as 2003 or 2004 (mainly cuz i grew as a console pleb and consoles were never big on text games)

I liked the novelty of it but it got old really fast. Maybe it's a novelty value as well in 2019

>still no argument
Fortnite blows.

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Do you have a point or not?

i imagine wizards playing spelling bee contest to cast a spell now.

Not him but you don’t have much of an argument either. A videogame, even if its text based, requires you to look at a monitor. This inherently makes it into a “video” game. The important part is the game part anyway, something that a text based game can provide. The only thing I’m seeing in your argument is a seething zoomer manchild thats pissed off that an older generation of games exist and that some people find them to be more fun

wow whats that white stuff??

Hey Neo Scavanger is fun as shit.

Sorry mobilenigger. Get taste

MUD games are fucking based man
stop outing yourself as a zoomer

because reading is fun :)

Why can’t zoomers read more than a sentence at a time? Is it autism?

On paper you can do literally fucking ANYTHING because all you have to do is write it.
In practice few games manage to take advantage of that freedom because
>effort

brogue is the best roguelike

It's leviOHsa, not levioSAAH.

No, stop making sense, I need gwapphix!

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>text based games
>good text
Lol retard

>A videogame, even if its text based, requires you to look at a monitor. This inherently makes it into a “video” game.
My argument is that you're a painter and you have the full range of colors on your palette and you're choosing to use black and white only. You can do that, but you're severely squandering your toolset, not to mention whatever you make, no matter how good it is, can never be as complex as something that utilizes the full palette well.

Text allows for a lot more complexity than games with graphics rendering. Go look at Hellmoo. An MMO with even half it's features would mean I never play anything else ever.

Also makes adding new content much, much easier. The few MOOs/MUDs that are still relatively popular get very frequent updates.

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gay I bet you write fanfics.

text is encoded audio/visuals that are being decoded and rendered directly inside of end user's mind.

Some people enjoy making and looking at monochromatic art. Stop being such a pleb and trying to limit stuff.

>this thread

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Shampoo bottle was more full than she anticipated, poor 'girl'.

>unga bunga me no like words

Go close your eyes and just imagine a adventure or story

VIDEO games aren't for this shit

Its autism.

Good to see you know as much about art as you do about video games.

>be Yea Forums
>say graphics doesn't matter
>hurrr go read a book if all you do is read text you faggot nerd!

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>zero imagination, can no longer enjoy text or audio, has to have "muh graphics"
Have we reached peak zoomer?

Yea Forums isn't one person. I also dislike OP but he doesn't represent everyone on Yea Forums. He only represents his own retardation.

Why do you use Yea Forums? Is it autism? Social media hipsters or just nostalgic boomers?

She's making shrimp alfredo

>Stop being such a pleb and trying to limit stuff.
I will when you stop being such a pleb who's trying to assert that inferior creations are superior ones.

Passive-aggressive cop out answers like these don't help your case at all.

It was fully aggressive, user. You are stupid.

worst thread on Yea Forums rn

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>inferior creations
In graphics perhaps, but in other aspects they are superior.

Your imagination is filling in the gaps where the artist failed to create something substantial. It's not an accomplishment for the artist and it means the artwork is flawed.

Great, now provide an argument as to why you think that, rather than just throwing out shallow insults.

In what aspects are they superior? And in the overall vision, they are inferior.

You can have a greater variety of choice because development is focused on narrative and gameplay instead of graphics. Text based games can excel in a couple of areas instead of spreading resources over more, therefore they can be superior in those chosen areas.

Also, you are not filling in the gaps of text based games with your imagination any more than you are when you read a book, and books are far more widely considered to be art than video games, so this argument holds absolutely no water.

Because in our obsession with GRAFX most games have the gameplay depth of a fucking kiddie pool with AI and physics that are stuck in the early to mid 2000s.

what game is that in the OP?

>text based
>VIDEO games
nigga just read a book

Neo Scavenger fren

text based is for s@y boys who think playing them makes them special

Text games can have sophisticated gameplay systems and narrative choice that even the best "choose your own" books do not. Nothing beats playing a TTRPG with a quality DM, but text based games come the closest.

hurf durf muh nomenclature it has VIDEO in it

They want to use their imagination and not have canned voiced dialogue, scripted action and cutscenes thrown at them.

this not fare on peepl hu not gud read

security issues

Its like a text based adventure book without having to carry how fucking huge some of them would be. also some will have them graffix. not that hard to understand

cyao fug

>You can have a greater variety of choice because development is focused on narrative and gameplay instead of graphics.
And this comes at the cost of the graphics as well as sound (which has a spatial aspect). Graphics and sound are part of video games, they are not separate from them. The result is a lopsided, flawed creation that does not utilize the full range of expressions possible.

>Also, you are not filling in the gaps of text based games with your imagination any more than you are when you read a book
Books are not video games. Video games include more modes of expression.

>Every single book is flawed and a failure for the writer
Lmao fuck off literal retard. You don't have a single point that makes sense.

video game is a shitty term coined by tech illiterate boomers who couldnt tell the difference between a home console and vcr. they are called computer games

The mistake you're making is in thinking books and video games cover the same range of expressions. A writer's toolset is the written word and that is it. The better he can use the written word to convey things, the better the book. A video game developer does not just have the written word in his arsenal, he has many more tools available to him. The better he can use all of these tools to convey things, the better the video game. Hopefully that makes more sense.

I hope for your sake you're just pretending to be this stupid

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You've made up limitations and rules for yourself. You obviously have non standard definitions from the onset of your 'argument'. You have completely failed in constructing a framework to discuss your ideas.

>t. had parents who called his games Nintendo Tapes

Videogame is a poorly constructed term. There have been 'videogames' made for blind people, completely lacking a visual component. The core of the idea is computer game.

I haven't made up anything. These are all constructed from my time studying art history, observing what the most formidable individuals call art throughout the ages, how art changes over time, what is the most successful and considered an accomplishment, and also analyzing the works themselves. If anything, the odd argument here is yours, which tries to assert that somehow a game like Dwarf Fortress is the better video game because it discards entire aspects of video games in order to make one aspect more complex, even though we have an entire decades-old culture that says otherwise.

And why IS Dwarf Fortress the better video game? You seem to think so because you don't consider graphics or sound to actually be part of video games. You think they're superfluous elements. But there's no good reason to think this about them any more than there is a good reason to think that sound is a superfluous element in movies, or set and costume design are superfluous elements in plays. Arguing that text is all you need for a complex video game is like saying you just need the play actors and they could be wearing anything they want on an empty stage and you could just use your imagination to fill in the rest. It's like saying watching a play of Macbeth without the set or costume designs is totally fine as long as the actors know their lines and are physically expressive. It's pointless conjecture, nobody thinks that way about plays, and they don't think that way about video games either. You are the minority here, and you aren't necessarily right for it.

>Video
being, relating to, or involving images on a television screen or computer display
>activity engaged in for diversion or amusement

sounds right to me. if there is game made for blind people then I'm sure they are using aides.

if they would just scale back graphics and pump up content games would be better

The author could have at least drawn some pictures to go along with the text, rather than limiting himself to only text. Wouldn't that be a lot better than just a bunch of words on paper?

based retard dabbing on literate faggots!!!

I once played a SUD (like MUD but singleplayer) out of curiosity about 3 or 4 years ago. It's probably the only SUD in existence, I don't remember it, but it's Polish and I don't know whether there is an English version. Title is Otchłań

>A video game developer does not just have the written word in his arsenal, he has many more tools available to him. The better he can use all of these tools to convey things, the better the video game. Hopefully that makes more sense.
What you say is true. There are concepts and dynamics that can be conveyed with graphics far more efficiently than text. Anyone who has actually tried to design a game of any sort should recognize this.

That said, actual games are created in the real world. Graphics are expensive, typically far more expensive than text as a means to express the same thing. This puts severe limits on the economic viability of any game, in addition to adding another layer of complexity and way for it to be shitty. Consider an idea for a text-only game with 20 different playable characters and mechanics deep and complex enough for each of those 20 characters to be unique. But, because you can't afford graphics for all 20 characters you cut it down to 5. And because representing all those complex mechanics with graphics is also hard and costly you cut them too. And then because you hired shit artist anyway, the 5 characters look boring and generic.

So instead of having a unique and interesting, but text-only game, you have another shitty RPG maker piece of crap with generic badly drawn anime characters and boring aesthetics and graphic design.

Alternately you have a zillion dollar budget, but your only option is to make a multiplayer open-world battle royale meme game

Dwarf Fortress stories write themselves.

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not disagreeing with you

Same fucking reason people play menu simulators (JRPG's) and visual novels (text walls sims)

>to go along with the text
No. Remove the text entirely because reading is for nerds. Also add weapon skins and the ability to dab.

Everyone consumes media, yes.

Games are defined by their rules. If there are no rules, there's no game. This goes for video(computer) games, sports, board games, puzzle games, roleplaying games, and so on. Apart from the players themselves, a game IS its rules.

The point is that a game like Dwarf Fortress, with exceptionally deep and complex rules, can exist because the designers were not hampered by the need to express anything with expensive graphics. Sure, later on, once the game had found an audience, artists were found that were able to refine the experience by adding graphics. But if having graphics from the start was a requirement, Dwarf Fortress wouldn't exist.

And yet, a great many literary works are considered art. While Video Games are mere thought of as children's diversions.
So much for all of those "tools".

they're called text-based games because they are based, and superior to your zoomer games

>Wouldn't that be a lot better than just a bunch of words on paper?
Depends on what we mean by "better," and we also have to note that we are not just judging the work of an author anymore, but of an illustrator too. We are now entering the realm of something different, not just merely a book, but a book that contains illustrations, so there's now more than one thing to pass judgment on. And this product would be "better" in terms of how well it pulls us into the vision of the artist, because it now makes use of more than just the written word to do so. The end result, since it utilizes more tools, would be more successful at doing that, if each tool was used well together.

A lot of economic and also political factors influence what ends up getting created. But at the end of the day, what utilizes more tools in the arsenal well is what is better, because it is more complex, and it is more complex because it utilizes more tools in the arsenal well, which is more difficult to pull off. A product that utilizes only 3 of its 5 tools (the numbers are arbitrary and just for the sake of argument) can still be a good product if those 3 tools are used well, but it will never be as good as a product that utilizes all 5 tools well. The ideal is to try and utilize everything video games can have in them as well as possible. The games that do that are the best games.

Why are you so strongly opinionated about something so insignificant? Do people who play these games really bother you that much?

Have sex unironcially

>A product that utilizes only 3 of its 5 tools (the numbers are arbitrary and just for the sake of argument) can still be a good product if those 3 tools are used well, but it will never be as good as a product that utilizes all 5 tools well. The ideal is to try and utilize everything video games can have in them as well as possible. The games that do that are the best games.
There are no games that are perfect 100% in every category. It's literally impossible in fact since you reach a point where there's no "better" only "different" and when you're talking million-dollar budgets then you had better be "different" in a way that is going to make money.

It's a pointless hypothetical.

Wojak and Frogshitters are getting really boring.

>t. retard who played the game for 10 minutes then died of hypothermia the next in-game day because he sat naked in the rain

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>Games are defined by their rules. If there are no rules, there's no game.
That goes only for games. Different kinds of games are defined by more than just their rules. Video games, for example, are not JUST defined by their rules, but by their use of visuals and sound and any other computer-generated elements they are capable of containing in them as well.

>The point is that a game like Dwarf Fortress, with exceptionally deep and complex rules, can exist because the designers were not hampered by the need to express anything with expensive graphics.
Graphics shouldn't be viewed as "hampering" when the use of visuals is part of what makes a video game. The rules of the game are more complex, but the product is not more complex, because the complexity of the rules sacrifices the complexity in other areas, which is an easier accomplishment than one that maintained the complexity of all areas that define video games.

>There are no games that are perfect 100% in every category.
The ideal alone is perfect. Perfection can never be realized. But this doesn't mean that people shouldn't strive to be as perfect as possible or that some games don't do this better than others.

Can we just fast forward to the part where the Shitposters give the startling revelation that they've just been pretending to be retarded and they thank the the thread for entertaining them as they wait for their class/appointment/bus/whatever.

>Graphics shouldn't be viewed as "hampering" when the use of visuals is part of what makes a video game.
Graphics can absolutely hamper a game. If you add garbage art to a game that would have been fine with no art, you are making a worse game.
You can also wank all you want about how things SHOULD be but the reality is that game developers will compromise on game design to accommodate the game engine they actually have.

Jesus Christ you are an idiot.
By your logic no one would have ever learned to build houses because a house is not worth building unless you can make it perfect.

They're called computer games, the reason they're called video games is because boomers couldn't tell the difference between an NES and a VCR. Also to do with the fact that "computer" is synonymous with "PC" rather than everything that is a computer. So "computer games" to normies typically mean games that are only on the PC, instead of literally all "video games."

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but why would she be using shampoo while playing psp???
also why are u saying 'girl'??
god im confused