In retrospect, were they right Yea Forums?

no

I feel the same way as a PG fan. It’s serviceable, but it breaks my heart that it’s one of their worst titles and also one of their best-selling.

Maybe Babylon’s Fall will be better.

Woah...is this the power of a deluded waifufag? Damn...

It has to be the biggest disconnect in opinion I've had had for a video game. Everyone seems to love this shit; Yea Forums, reddit, whatever. I played it and it is absolute and complete trash; bad graphics, bad character designs, bad story, the gameplay is dull and unsatisfying. I don't get it.

is that image a spoiler?

>hurr Nier gameplay is bad
It's a B at best and a B- at least. It's not shit it's just not the second fucking coming of Bayonetta holy christ.

Name 10 games better than Nier Automata

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Automata isn't even a top 10 game in the Drakengard cannon baka

>bad graphics, bad character designs, bad story, the gameplay is dull and unsatisfying
so, standard japanese game.

>were they right Yea Forums?
Nah

Everyone pretends to like it because they think they’re supposed to. There’s nothing of substance to the game, but if enough people say there is, nobody wants to say “there’s nothing of substance here” for fear of being called an idiot for missing it.

>All these filthy casuals only getting ending A

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Can't be a masterpiece with dogshit gameplay. It can achieve cult status, which is has, because cultists tend to ignore any and all criticism about the game until eventually all relevant discussion has departed and only the feverish circle jerk remains.

It's actually in my top 5 and it's not because it's new but I have a feeling that it's mainly on that list for just that reason. Doubt it will land as high in a few years.

>It can achieve cult status, which is has
Are you talking about the original Nier?

No, it's better. NieR Automata is more than just a game.

> Yea Forums loves the game & circlejerks it as a masterpiece when it comes out
> As soon as it becomes popular for journalists & normies to like it Yea Forums is obsessed with crying about how “terrible” it is like BOTW & Undertale
Lol

honestly the worst part is them making you repeat the story mode once just to continue it, that's why many people dropped it on 9S route. shit was unbelievably boring

>Name 10 games better than Nier Automata
From a gameplay perspective?

Bayonetta
Transformers Devastation
Devil May Cry 5
Sekiro
Metal Gear Rising
Ninja Gaiden
Vanquish
TW101
Devil May Cry 3
Bayonetta 2 (for all its faults, it’s substantially better than Automata)

> All literal who games
Typical

It may be a meme that Nier is "deep", but Nier is actually deep

7 of them are by Platinum.

Both have. Just sit on automata for a few more years, you'll see.

>It's a B at best and a B- at least
It's a 2B at medium...

Nier maybe, but not Automata.

>Both have.
Nah

>and the gameplay is kind of disappointing for a Platinum game.
youtu.be/qNp2zhbQ6ig?t=26

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Yes, the same contrarians who are desperately trying to convince people that it’s terrible are the same ones screaming that it was the Citizen Kane of gaming a few months ago. People on Yea Forums are still traumatized that Nier ranked so much higher than their favourite games, so they have dedicated every thread to autistically seething about it

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only if you have a girl fetish

awkward

I love this list because people didn't actually vote for their favorite games, they just voted in pairings.

Dark Souls being that high is bullshit

Yes should be higher

This pic is fake.

this game exposed just how uncultured and juvenile the gaming community is. it's fucking embarrassing how everyone creamed themselves over babby's first existential crisis like that. seriously watch more films and read more books.

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It's just a game that does subverting expectations the right way, but it's not that crazy. The gameplay is average, the music is top tier, the story is good. Nier's original game is better in the story department imo, the gameplay is trash but the music and storytelling are absolutely perfect.

It’s not, but it looks a lot different now. NieR dropped like 30 spots & now Castlevania SOTN is ranked #1

People being able to push a game into autistic combo territory is one thing, having tight and well-balanced gameplay is another.

Here’s a FFXV combo video to prove my point
youtube.com/watch?v=yTsaA7oO6bI

I don't even have to see the list to know #4 is gonna be Ocarina of Time or BoTW, and and top 3 are gonna be cinematic story driven games that have all come out within the last 4 years.

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> it’s fake because I don’t like it
The lengths you contrarians go to actively seethe about a game is incredible

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Most of Automata's depth comes from referencing things outside of itself. The game is basically Yoko Taro's self referential adventure. Still fucking awesome though.

the third chapter was too short
shit the whole game was too short

The credits were the best part of the game

Not even top 200

>Gameplay is actually shit
Nah
youtube.com/watch?v=9P6Y2L0UMqI
Unless you were talking about actual NieR and not Automata, but based on context I'm assuming you're talking about the game the thread is actually about.

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The story was the worst part. Just another existential crisis theme from Taro. I couldn't even bring myself to finish all the endings and just looked some of them up. Off the top of my head I can barely remember much from the story since I already forgot most of it.

Besides 2B and A2's great character designs and the combat being alright if button-mashy, it was pretty forgettable. 90% of the game's worth rides on 2B's design, honestly. I would have never played it nor stuck with it as long as I did otherwise.

Provide the source for the poll material. Now.

>combo movie
YIKES

yes.

wrong.
It's a great, complete package

>Game gives you tools to do what you want
>This is a bad thing
Pick one you imbecile.

You actually didn't see what the story was about

NA has better and more varied gameplay than all of those combined.

Bold claim. Go on list 200 games better. I will wait.

>every one of these involves Wire cheese
Now show me your hard mode combo videos where you have to aim that shit.

You're out of your fucking mind, or you started playing games in 2016

Nier 1 & 2 as a double feature are actually pretty great but the wider Drakenverse is retarded shit

Nier 1
>interesting though convoluted story, terrible gameplay
Nier Automata
>Pretentious story, decent hack and slash gameplay, 2B's ass

Nier 1 was a story game, Nier A was a 2B's ass game first and foremost.

N:A is the new B:Infinite

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Fixed that for you OP.

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This

Nigga, 9S route from the very beginning shows massive differences from 2B's.

>SMW on 6th
>Yoshi's Island nowhere to be seen
color me surprised, Yea Forumsirgins have shit taste

I'd rather finish my 200 word essay due tomorrow than convince you, dear nobody. It's fine if you disagree, it means you've a lot of great games yet to experience.

I did and it wasn't anything spectacular. But people can't cope with not sucking Taro off for his stories I guess. Visually and thematically his games are great, but the actual stories are always mess and feel like a teenager trying to be philosophical.

Sorry but theres no way 2B doesnt have the number 1 spot there. This looks fake

Low energy bait.

massive differences like 10 second cutscenes after bosses?

That's a reddit list.

Fuck that video is annoying

Why did they feel the need to make half the fucking video cutscenes everyone has seen before

>first three months past release
>Gotyay
>Where were you when 2b was kill?
>Tfw weight of the world

Now
>Cringe
>You only like it for the ass
>It's actually bad

Fucking contrarian dipshits. This should be Yea Forumss goty

cope
dilate
seethe
cringe
have sex
yikes

The game isn't balanced around those things. You have to go out of your way to even use them, since in 99% of encounters things will die in the first few hits because of atrocious balance/scaling decisions.\

being able to set up specific circumstances where you can be flashy for no real reason is pretty low-relevance in a game where webm related will handily carry you through every single encounter, no sweat no threat.

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A pathetic game for pathetic people

Not him, but while it does have differences I dropped it there too. I didn't want to play as 9S either. Trudging through another route with him was more than I felt like doing.

Beating random robots up with 2B was the main enjoyment of the game to me, the story didn't get me interested enough to push through another route with 9S.

200 words? Damn dude you dont even have time to be posting on this board you need to get on that shit asap fuck. Sorry for bothering you during this time of crisis.

Literally find me three other games with more going on. I can think of the first deus ex, but it also has way less going on in the gameplay front, from the 2d, 2.5d, top down shit.

I never said from a gameplay perspective

It's just like undertale

nah gameplay wasnt all that

story was pretentious

same as every other game from chinkman

user it is yours, and anyone else's fault, for failing to utilize the game's capabilities to the fullest. You sound exactly like those people who say
>You can just infinite stealth through Crysis.
or
>You can just tranq everyone in MGS3/3/4/V
Of course you fucking can. But why?

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And I can pick pyromancer and cheese literally every encounter in dark souls but people still say it has amazing gameplay

literally who cares, the only games that matters are the ones YOU like

Nier Automata is a truly innovative game that pushes the narrative medium forward with things that can only be implemented in a video game and understood by people who play video games.

Is more going on supposed to mean good? The cope continues.

Also the 2D and shmup segments of the gameplay were jarring and unwelcome in most cases. If I wanted to play a shmup instead of a hack and slash I would have bought one.

Stop pretending like you ever even heard of taro before nier came out. The first nier sold about 60,000 copies in the first two years of release, you aren't one of those people.

First one did everything better in every way.

Nier Automata like Undertale should be in top 10 in anyone's list.

>This game sucks and is babbys first deep game
>What other game is deeper?
>Yikes cringe cope

Fucking eat some .45 caliber aspirin

>using gap closers is bad in a predominately melee-based action game
And most of the clips doesn't even use a single Wire and ARE manually aimed. Even if your case was legitimate, you're wrong.

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If Nier isn't in your top 100 we can't be friends.

Here was the list
> 1A. Majora’s Mask (2018 #1)
> 1B. Ocarina Of Time (2014 #1)
> 2. Red Dead Redemption
> 3. Final Fantasy VI
> 4. Super Mario Bros 3
> 5. Shadow Of The Colossus
> 6. Chrono Trigger
> 7. NieR Automata
> 8. Portal 2
> 9. Metroid Prime
> 10. Tetris
> 11. Resident Evil 4
> 12. Super Metroid
> 13. Super Smash Bros Melee
> 14. The Last Of Us
> 15. EarthBound
> 16. Okami
> 17. Silent Hill 2
> 18. Super Mario 64
> 19. Final Fantasy VII
> 20. Super Mario World
> 21. Portal
> 22. Mass Effect 2
> 23. Planescape Torment
> 24. A Link To The Past
> 25. Max Payne
> 26. Castlevania: SOTN
> 27. Final Fantasy Tactics
> 28. Psychonauts
> 29. Starcraft: Brood War
> 30. Super Mario Odyssey
> 31. Braid
> 32. Journey (PS4)
> 33. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
> 34. The Wind Waker
> 35. INSIDE
> 36. Rock Band 3
> 37. Fallout 2
> 38. Breath Of The Wild
> 39. Super Mario RPG
> 40. Grand Theft Auto V
> 41. Left 4 Dead 2
> 42. Animal Crossing
> 43. Bioshock
> 44. Spelunky
> 45. Dark Souls
> 46. Beyond Good & Evil
> 47. Jet Set Radio
> 48. Killer7
> 49. Bayonetta
> 50. Mega Man 3
Bloodborne wasn’t included in the Top 100

HAHAHA holy fuck imagine being such a fucking retard

how many fucking 'of All Time' lists are we going to get

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>since in 99% of encounters things will die in the first few hits because of atrocious balance/scaling decisions.
>plays on low difficulty
>complains that the low difficulty doesn't give reasons to use the full toolkit
I can Stinger and Rebellion Combo A through DMC3 on easy, doesn't make the gameplay bad.

No. Play pic related's game instead.

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It will never end, naturally anyone who plays games will have a best game list

>you just don't GET it
>it's SO DEEP
>NAME A DEEPER GAME

Nah, the burden of proof is on you to say why it's not just a pretentious narrative, and you can't. That's why your dismissal is cope, and it's pathetic.

This deserves its place on that list as a fantastic step forward in innovation. Brainlets simply can't process the beauty of the game.
>top tier storyline with hidden meaning and thoughtful implications
>constantly shifting gameplay to reflect more of an experience than just a single genre could convey
>best soundtrack for years
>music changes to robotic ding versions for hacking segments
>likable characters
>the true ending
If you didn't enjoy it, I'm truly sorry anons. Its amazing. My #3 game of all time.

There's a difference between "just keep spamming Dante's guns long enough and everything EVENTUALLY dies" and "you can have fun in spite of the game if you put forth the effort to circumvent all of its design choices and try to force it to be a game it isn't".

Automata basically begs you to cheese dodges and always keep the fire button held down. It doesn't even begin to discourage or punish this behavior. It just flat out works better than combo autism. In fact, trying to juggle just for the fuck of it in Automata (like you would in, say, Bayonetta) is a huge problem because the way super armor and HP numbers are balanced, by the time you can actually put even a shit-eater pellet gun enemy in the air, it's 1 or 2 hits away from certain death.

You can get around this by intentionally building a gimped, shitty build, but why do that? It's not like I'm the one using broken buildmonger shit to cheese the game, I'm playing it at its most basic level, and not breaking a sweat. Combo autism is fine as icing on the cake, but you have to have a challenging and engaging core combat loop at the heart of it or it's all meaningless.

You don't have to play DMC5 like Donguri, but you have to do more than slap the Y button until everything dies if you want to see the ending. Automata fails that test. Technically you can sorta-kinda Donguri it if you really try, but the game essentially peels its asscheeks apart and BEGS you to slap the Y button until everything dies. It's beckoning you to just steamroll it because it doesn't even put up the pretense of roadblocks around mindless play.

>low difficulty
that's hard mode, notice I never lock on. Find me a combo autist video not made on Normal where (for retarded reasons) lock-on is disabled entirely.

This contrarianism is even worse than Undertale, Yea Forums has become so assmad that they cannot be hipsters for liking NieR anymore

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Remove Planescape & replace it with KOTOR and this would be a good list

This.

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I havent played it

Chrono Trigger and BOTW are worthy. NieR 1 does everything better than Automata except for the combat.

Yikes. Cringepilled and not based.

>best soundtrack in years

Do people just wet themselves over anything with an orchestral/chant soundtrack now? It feels like any game that does this gets called amazing for sound. It just felt like fine but not memorable background noise to me overall. I'd never just listen to any of the songs outside of playing the game.

Cope more & just accept that you’re wrong

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user, I actually played Automata on hard mode, I know what it looks like when pod programs fire in a direction other than the reticle. Don't sit here and bullshit me about difficulty settings.

That's the most boring shit I've ever seen compared to almost any other game Donguri plays.

This. The Automata soundtrack is a fucking meme, too. No idea what everyone thinks is so breathtaking about it.

This reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes"

I would genuinely put Automata in the top 20 and Gestalt in the top 3, so that image alone isnt wrong

Name one thing besides the combat that Automata does better. The OST in not one them, btw.

Balance is bad gameplay.

The only AAA game that i had to play with my Dick out while it goozed semen, at least until Subverse Is released. It deserves to be top 1.

What you're getting wrong is that this isn't dmc: revengeance. It's made by platinum, but it isn't a platinum game. It's a yoko taro game. It's the fifth game in a series, at that, known for having only serviceable gameplay.
It isn't as mechanically deep as even dmc2. It isn't as mechanically deep as mgrr. It isn't even trying, which is what most people don't understand. It's serviceable game play, you're not going to go on YouTube and get a 47 minute juggle combo video because the game doesn't support that level of shit. It's still fun to play though. It's like judging wind waker based on the forced stealth sections early on against thief. It just doesn't make sense.

Loved the game, but generally, I ignore all the "greatest games of all time" lists that includes games from the ongoing gen.
With that said, I can agree with it being included on future lists, but so do the other Nier games.

>no defense, gives up
lmao typical

Automatas sound design >>> Automatas soundtrack
The soundtrack is good, but not sure he best ever.
The sound design is amazing and i say its the best in ages

> 14. The Last Of Us
this meme needs to die

sneed

>Taro
>AAA
Pick one.

Faggots, both of you.

Everything except Soundtrack & characters, the original NieR is a horrible game that contrarians only pretend to like because it’s less popular that Automata. Same thing with Majora’s Mask fags

>that's hard mode, notice I never lock on.
My mistake.
I do agree that disabling locking is a poor design decision.
That said, I also played on Hard and did not have the experience you describe. What level were you when you fought that lvl 39 enemy? Did you have any chips powering up your pod?
Based on that clip and , which I assume is you, it seems like you're choosing to play it a certain way and then criticizing the game for that playstyle being easy and doable.
>You don't have to play DMC5 like Donguri, but you have to do more than slap the Y button until everything dies if you want to see the ending. Automata fails that test.
I get your point. It's a resonable argument, but I simply disagree.
You can absolutely cheese DMC5 running around and spamming Color Up as Nero, Griffin's base shots, and going Gunslinger and E&I spamming. Combining that with the I-frames from jumping and how almost all DMC enemies are melee-oriented, it's extremely doable. Heck, DMC never disables lockon so in one respect it's even easier to rangespam.
Only exception is certain bosses, which also applies to Automata.
The biggest difference is that DMC has a style meter which rewards good variety but doesn't punish cheesing, and Automata doesn't.
I fully agree DMC has better combat than Automata. But to say that just because a 8/10 something isn't a 10/10 then it's mediocre is unreasonable.
Ah. You mean manually aiming pod programs. I thought you meant Donguri wasn't manually positioning himself and only using Wire as a gap closer.

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>Has no argument in the first place

Cringe. Go back to shit posting, talking about video games doesn't suit you.

>This game sucks
>Find me even a single better game
>Lol no, tell me why it's good

It doesn't have to be highly technical to be well-balanced. I died more times casually running through Witcher 3 than I ever did Automata because (simple as that game is) it punishes you for playing badly and demands you pay at least a little bit of attention. Automata doesn't.

You're the one who's got it backwards. You think that because a game lets you put on some pretense of being stylish-adjacent and flashy, it therefore must have some hidden depth. It doesn't. It has a large move kit but nothing at all stops you from mashing dodge and firing. You can literally be invincible while shitting out an endless stream of damage in 99.7% of instances (with only Adam/Eve and their anti-cheese shielding techniques ever putting a meaningful stop to it). That is, at its core, badly balanced gameplay.

Name one other game where you can use two buttons to both remain invincible and simultaneously shit out damage endlessly with no penalty. You do that, and I'll show you another piece of shit game.

It’s a good game, but yeah it should be in the 40-50 range instead of being rated that high

I was blown away by even the first 5 minutes of the game. I think some people like yourself literally just don't have a soul or are a literal NPC. I guess the memes were real

I can easily understand why so many people dropped it just after the first ending. Even if the story gets more involved and interesting with the other routes and endings, the first one needs to grip you into caring enough about the characters and what's going on to actually bother with continuing beyond that point. I think it failed to do this for the most part. It wasn't interesting enough to make many people push through "shit, now I have to do that all over again but as 9S?"(not knowing how different it will be, but that's the impression)

2b's ass isn't even top 10. It's a generic little girl anime ass, so weebs cream themselves over it.

Half way through 9S story I dropped it. I barely enjoyed the game the first time because of how floaty the combat was, but then they expected me to play a campaign where the gameplay was even worse? Fuck that shit.
Story-wise, it reminded me of LiS with how ""subtle"" its tries to be with 2deep4me philosophies.
>Robots are incapable of showing emotions like love
>says the robot that loves another robot
God, I really did hate 9S.

I enjoyed the level design. But I wouldn't put it on GOAT list. I think it's one of those games that will slowly drop down on those lists until it's completely forgotten. Other than that and some placements, it's a pretty good list.

>What level were you when you fought that lvl 39 enemy? Did you have any chips powering up your pod?

If you look at the webm, I think I'm 63?

But that's the thing, I didn't grind levels. Hell, I didn't really even bother much with sidequests. The game naturally progresses such that by the end-ish part of it, you are a steamroller in a flower shop.

Even then, it's not like this is some big broken endgame secret. I literally figured out that you could do this in the original PS4 demo of the game. I learned remarkably quickly that you could just slap dodge and shoot and kill the Marx wheels on my first run-through.

DMC5, as you note, lets you cheese, but it's a pain in the ass. It takes forever to kill things with just your guns, and the game still punishes you for trying (reduces movement speed, kills your style rank and the associated orb rewards, etc). It maybe doesn't do "enough" and relies on player boredom to be a roadblock against the most egregious cheesing in some instances, but it doesn't actively encourage that kind of play with its balance.

You know how in DMC2, the guns were overpowered and the encounters were shit, and people tell you that if you really want to see the game through to the end, you're better off just abusing the guns for easy wins to speed through the game's boring combat? That's Automata. Nier Automata is DMC2, but with butts and the meme-moon to carry it through how abysmal it is.

Gameplay is shit, there is a best combo and you just spam that shit

Story is good

Sounds like you can't discuss period with Taro's dick in your mouth. I didn't even say it sucked, I said it was was just another pretentious Taro story, and it seems you won't and can't argue against that. "Deep" is a buzzword and doesn't mean a quality story. What makes this game's special? If saying it's "deep" is the best you can do, you have nothing worth saying. Other games have nothing to do with what I said, but you can't defend the game on it's own merit is seems.

Is it bad if I found KH2FM on Critical Mode more fun than Automata’s gameplay?

>can't talk about Yakuza on this board any more because it got too popular and Steam drones invade the thread
>can't talk about NieR on this board any more because it got too popular and Steam drones invade the thread
>can't talk about Trails of series any more because it got too popular and Steam drones invade the thread
what can I even discuss on this board any more

It will only place higher & higher as time goes on, barring a nuclear apocalypse the sequel will end up getting a 97 Metascore when it comes out

Automata on easy mode plays the game for you.

On hard I died a handful of times since there are a good amount of one shots. Getting good involves shooting while meleeing. Shooting down enemies takes way too fucking long to be a real tactic, it's like 1/4 your melee dps. Sure, you can kite basically every enemy, but not bosses. Same as dark souls. I can get a bow and kill basically everything with a bow and soul arrow before they get to me. Doesn't mean it's bad.

>1A
>1B
>Majora's mask of all thins
Jesus fucking christ man

Nothing, we already had several threads were people nominate & vote on what they considered the GOAT games. But people who don’t like the results will just claim that it was fake. So contrarians will stop at nothing to ruin this board

The game is 8/10 at best with that combat, gameplay, environment, and sidequests. Also the fact you have to replay the game twice with minor changes to get the real ending is a joke. Also the hacking sections are horribly tedious.

People only think it's so great because muh music, characters, and muh sad pseudo-intellectual story

anime
how m00t-kins is the qt-est girl
how mods live rent free

I think Cuphead should be higher

Agreed, they should have bumped FF6 up to 1A & dropped Majora’s Mask outside the top 15

Trails stopped being good at Ao though, I have no idea how Kisekitards called Ao this amazing game when it was not only not fun but also up its own ass and put a lot of carryovers like "choose your waifu" into the trails of super duper self insert series

It was pure kino at its highs.

Yikes. Have sex incel

wether you agree to Nier being a masterpiece or not, this spot negates the whole list
literally a 1/10 game

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I don't know, I think it will have the same fate as Fallout 3 and as time go by people will start replacing it with either something new or older. In this case, I think Uncharted 2 is going to climb up.

You're being disingenuous at this point to make your argument. You're playing in the easiest, most boring possible way because the game lets you, then criticizing the game for making that the easiest, most boring way possible.
>and the game still punishes you for trying
No. Not giving rewards is not the same as punishing.
In a DMC thread just today someone talked about their friend playing through 3 with just stinger, Rebellion Combo A, and healing items and they got through it just fine and didn't feel compelled to play stylishly. You're that guy, but for Automata.
>comparing DMC2 to Automata
This is absolutely absurd, dude. The fact that you can watch the Donguri video of him demonstrating the depth in Automata and suggest the two have similar gameplay systems shows you're not being honest here.

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No way in hell, it's not even the best game in it's own series IMO

Trannies and e-celebs, get with the times you fucking weeb.

Also have sex.

Dark souls limits your fire rate with arrows and, if I'm not mistaken, actually has an ammo pool as well? (I never really cared for souls games). It also has things like a stamina meter which I'm not a fan of but at least puts pressure on you to use evasive moves only when necessary.

>Shooting down enemies takes way too fucking long to be a real tactic, it's like 1/4 your melee dps
I don't really think that's true, assuming your shots land. I know on Normal Mode if you abuse lock-on your shots go fucking hog wild all over the place and mostly don't make contact, but if you're in effective range and you can keep your reticle on an enemy they die remarkably quickly. It may not technically be as fast as a sustained series of melee strikes, but unlike melee strikes, there's no "end of combo cool down" and no interruptions from where things like dodging and jumping force your attacks to stop.

You just always be shootin. Maybe you're also attacking too, but even when you aren't, even when you have to hit dodge 15 or 20 times in a row to be certain that you're not even potentially risking a semblance of touching a hitbox, you still be shootin. Out comes that stream of damage. That's what breaks the game. There's no dance, no interplay, no push and pull of offense and defense. You're always in offense. It's like you emit an aura that depletes enemy HP just from standing near them.

Yeah they were.

>image of A2 instead of 2B
No they are wrong

Didnt think of this before but its pretty accurate desu

I 100% agree.
It felt like a massively shallow game in every regard except the soundtrack, which was admittedly pretty good.

Everything else, I had to force myself to play through the game. I really think it's just a weeb thing. There's nothing thought-provoking or interesting. The creator himself said, cyborgs are all young girls wearing skirts because that's hot. Weebs just want to be taken serious for watching anime ass, which is pretty dumb.

But at least, it's a good character test. If I find someone who likes Automata, I can be fairly certain they're an idiot.

That’s why i retconned it from the list & replaced it with Braid instead since it was 8th on their original list

> NieR fags still seething about “Muh Secret Club”
Hahahahaha

>In a DMC thread just today someone talked about their friend playing through 3 with just stinger, Rebellion Combo A, and healing items and they got through it just fine and didn't feel compelled to play stylishly
I think there's a meaningful, if not sharply outlined, distinction between "doing something the developer clearly didn't intend because it's technically possible" and "picking the optimal strategy from among a series of equally presented strategies because it's painfully superior to the others".

Using items in DMC is established to essentially be an admission of failure. Technically progress is allowed, but it's made clear by the scoring system that you are not "supposed" to do this. What does Automata do to suggest that I shouldn't always be shooting? Finger fatigue?

There are daily Yakuza threads and aside from one or two shitposters, they're generally very good threads.
Nier is 50/50, people who hate it and people who defend it to death. Either way, it's not a game that has continuous updates or sequels, so there's nothing to talk about.
Dunno anything about Tales, though I think it's waifufaggotry, so yeah, you'll never get discussion beyond that because everyone on Yea Forums is a manchild who only cares about pixel titties over everything else.

>Can't be a masterpiece with dogshit gameplay
>Planescape: Torment
>Morrowind
>Silent Hill 2
>most Fallout games
>most MGS games
>any classic turn-based RPG
Nah, gameplay is what causes some games to be masterpieces but some become them because of other merits.

>basic bitch, the list
Yea Forums has garbage taste

Thank you for your reply

>Ocerina of time
played it for literal hours and couldn't find a single thing fun about it other than the backflips.

A2 > B2

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NieR Gestalt/Replicant > Nier: Automata

>ahaha this anime girl has longer hair she's so much hotter dude totally different

This, I dropped it when I finished the water "dungeon", I don't known why people like it that much

>I think there's a meaningful, if not sharply outlined, distinction between "doing something the developer clearly didn't intend because it's technically possible" and "picking the optimal strategy from among a series of equally presented strategies because it's painfully superior to the others".
I agree, and I disagree that your spam shooting is in fact painfully superior. I also played Automata on hard (except for the tutorial Marx because I was sick of replaying the intro sequence when I hadn't figured out perfect dodging yet) and I always preferred melee combat both for the sake of fun and efficiency. Sure, there were moments where I wanted to be really conservative and relied heavily on the pod (like Simone), but I never felt the game pushing me to play that way. The pods were always supplements to the core melee system.
>Using items in DMC is established to essentially be an admission of failure.
This is only in the fan community, and rightfully so. But there is nothing in the game itself that suggests this is a part of failure, nor has Yoshi said so (that I'm aware of). It's just sub-optimal play. That's why it's tied in with the time and style markers; just because you were slow and lacked style does not imply failure. That's what game-over screens are for. It means you weren't at peak performance.
Again, "not rewarding the player" is not the same as punishing the player.
>What does Automata do to suggest that I shouldn't always be shooting? Finger fatigue?
Nothing, for the same reason you shouldn't always be meleeing and dodging. You're only limited by your ability, but you're not getting as much DPS as if you used the pod and melee'd.
It's why you should always be going for Exceeds as Nero in the middle of your combos. It's only extra damage.

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The problem with Automata is you CAN do some pretty nifty stuff with it's mechanics, but there's not real reason to. The game is piss easy because of the broken RPG mechanics and enemy design is poor, so it just devolves into mindless button mashing sooner or later.

I missed the boat on the N64 since I never had it as a kid (Genesis and then straight into Gamecube later)

Got the 3DS remake of Ocarina and dropped it after the first dungeon. Maybe it was great in its day, but it was mostly just a bore now.

>Yoshi
I meant Itsuno. My mistake. Been playing a lot of FFXIV lately.

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A2's thighs and 2B's ass are the reasons I even played this game.

Hey back the fuck up, Majora's mask is a great game.

Basically this

It's an RPG first and character action second. If I'm level 35 going against a level 9 enemy, it doesn't matter how in depth the game may be, I can just faceroll it. And it does an only ok job at balancing that kind of stuff, you level up too quickly for the most part.

Gay

I didn't play Nier Automata yet. I keep waiting for a reducing in price but it never gets any cheaper.
Should I just jump at it and buy on the next sale and play?

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>reducing in price but it never gets any cheaper.
Console or pc?
If pc, just pirate it because those retards still haven't patched the game.

I would honestly rank it higher. Closer to top 5 or top 3. Excellent gameplay, incredible soundtrack and art design, arguably the most well written video game of all time.

Anyone who didn't enjoy it likely doesn't have much of a soul and is usually an NPC disguised as a human. You can basically measure the weight of a human soul by how much they enjoyed Automata.

Personally I started crying uncontrollably during the ending sequence. As in even though I didn't want to, tears began streaming down my face while I was still playing it with the controller in hand. Basically any time I feel like crying, I start listening to "Weight of the World". I made a review of the game on YouTube where I called the game a 10/10 masterpiece, it's the most viewed video I ever made myself with over 15k views. Pretty much I realized from the comment section of that video that I wasn't alone, many people realized that gaming journalists had not even beaten the game and had completely missed most of the game itself and the impact. There was a consensus amongst people in the comment section that gaming journalists aren't to be trusted, and also that Yoko Taro is the greatest video game writer of all time.

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Haven't played it since release. Going to start a replay in about 10 minutes, this time the PC version with FAR mod and HD texture mod and uncapped framerate. I expect trouble.
Fantastic game though. Also in Japanese this time, going to see if the weebs were right about the voice acting.

Given how the last couple of years for gaming has be filled with Jewish casinos, weak stories and characters even worse gameplay with devs being defensive with any criticism aimed that them
Automata was a breath of fresh air
The fact it was like 40 bucks was pretty good too compared to most triple aaa games

gtav from financial standpoint. fite me

Yeah, it's still pretty good.

half are litelar liretar rerital whoos

Yes

>The fucking OoT meme again
Why is so common for this type of list to be filled with Zelda games? It's very overrated

>Fallout 2 instead of Fallout

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Drakengard is better

Because the term “overrated” has no meaning

>overrated
adjective UK /ˌəʊ.vəˈreJ.tJd/ US /ˌoʊ.vɚˈreJ.t̬Jd/

If something or someone is overrated, that person or thing is considered to be better or more important than they really are:

In my opinion, she's a hugely overrated singer.

The atmosphere was good and the story was ok. The combat was off somehow. Like the attacks didn't interact with the enemy, their numbers just went down.

Not gonna lie ending e was rattling around in my head for a week after I beat it.

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>Half-Life 2 over Half-Life 1
Utter trash list.

Best soundtrack of all time
youtube.com/watch?v=yOo8oJlWwnU

Probably not, from the demo I could see Automata's gameplay was average at best, and the writing is probably a clusterfuck of random themes randomly strung together.

I thought this would be a good thread. Not even in the top 10,000 of all threads. There is no substance here. Just a bunch of faggots jacking each other off.

There's no way she wouldn't rank number 1 on that list. That ass was so incredible it made the game a million seller.

I can't really enjoy the running through the Hyrule field simulator