How do we make Mario have soul again?
How do we make Mario have soul again?
Carson Cook
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Kevin Allen
it never had any
James Collins
there's no going back, graphics are too advanced now
Chase Murphy
We hang the nigger.
Carter Reed
It's a fucking kids game who gives a shit
David Brown
I do.
Isaiah James
Soul doesn't exist. It's an idea of the good times one felt when they first played a franchise and the disillusionment they feel as an adult gets pinned on a latter installment for not reinvoking those same feelings of whimsy as a child because the things surrounding them when they played the older game are no longer around.
Dominic Lee
Unironically keep Mario Maker alive.
Landon Ross
would need to have indies make a mario game akin to sonic mania. mario is one of those games that will always be designed by committee though
Austin Jones
>Nintendo never takes any risks
>SEGA takes way too many risks
Evan Mitchell
>official Nintendo artwork will never be soulful again
Chase Young
Give it to someone else besides Nintendo.
Colton Sanders
Why doesn't Mario Maker 1 or 2 have the Chainsaws?
Blake Hernandez
how about stop making mario games and work on new IPs
Daniel Richardson
All games are for kids. Do you give a shit about any games?
Jeremiah Green
This
Oliver Collins
I don't like the modern Mario design, in my opinion he should look more like the old drawings or N64 renders, being more stout and expressive, I hope is they do make a new 2D game they take notes from Cuphead's success and put real effort into hand drawn sprites..
Joshua Watson
I do
It's fine to like Mario games but they are literally marketed towards 3-year-olds so caring about their development or gameplay as an adult is just delusional
Camden King
Stop releasing 3D shit and actually give a fuck about story
Luis Diaz
While you might have a point, this thread is not about the illusion of having thinking the first game/franchise you played was good, ergo, are wrong.
Jack Young
God, I hope you never have kids. They're going to be dumb fucks. Because you won't expose them to anything of substance. "They're just kids, it doesn't matter what they consume."
David Anderson
Isaiah Anderson
Logan Allen
Odyssey already brought the soul back
Jason James
Mario never had story, the fuck are you talking about?
Henry Reed
Mario artwork has soul again, just look at the artwork from Odyssey
This
Nathan Smith
Give Yea Forums a dictionary so they stop using the word "soul".
Carson Ward
have a clean version
Parker Edwards
Only soulless Mario games are the NSMB ones. Everything else has been great and they even use that same art style and the same artist for their artwork these days.
Kevin Jenkins
>Fake validation just to disagree
Okay buddy.
Justin Rogers
Bros 3 NES was the last real Mario game
Jacob Kelly
the mario universe was so damn interesting in super mario world, mario 64, and paper mario. after that they kinda lost touch
Grayson Price
Look at the size of this guy's balls.
Samuel Richardson
Give him red overalls again.
Jonathan Reed
donkey kong for og gameboy is such a damn good game wish they still made these types of games
Anthony Ramirez
Mario still has soul. They only really fucked up for NSMBW and NSMB2 because they kept it safe. It's why everyone says NSMB style in mario maker 2 has no soul but 3d world looks great.
Blake Stewart
Benjamin Thomas
Soul is associated with older games because older games weren't as polished as contemporary games. An over-polished game is like over-produced music, it's completely safe and lacks the quirk and charm that naturally arise from just a bit of roughness.
Christian Howard
Nicholas Cooper
Just develop a regular ass fucking platformer without a gimmick like Cappy/Spheres/Fludd
Levi Fisher
>Give Yea Forums a dictionary
Soul
2. emotional or intellectual energy or intensity, especially as revealed in a work of art or an artistic performance.
Brandon Howard
keep the cap throw but get rid of the capture mechanic
Colton Hughes
Andrew Mitchell
They need to go back to 2D Promo art. 3D World did a couple of these portraits and I always thought they looked like peak Mario soul.
Oliver Nelson
I don't like the red overalls blue shirt style
Nolan Russell
Fix the UI so it's more like previous games. Minimalism is boring.
Charles Jones
>yeah let's just take up more of the screen with flashy colorful bullshit like the score meter that doesn't matter
Look I agree Odyssey's UI lacked a little personality, but I'd much rather have it over giant letters, numbers, and gaudy artwork taking up more of the screen space.
James Nguyen
Damn Mario, those are some huge testicles!
Zachary Fisher
reboot as a third person over-the-should action game (w/ platforming elements) with realistic face-scanned human-sized Mario
Ian Brooks
It's the best.
Lucas Richardson
It won't happen anytime soon, since Nintendo is busy retroactively removing soul from their games.
Tyler Phillips
Make bowsette, canon. Instant soul.
Elijah Green
return with the adult jokes
Josiah Hall
Make a new Paper Mario with original characters and battling on the same level as the first two games
Make a fully animated 2d Mario resembling the old art in this thread
Caleb Cook
unnatural levels of SOUL
Lincoln Rogers
more star-themed areas but no space/galaxy stuff
Luke Moore
>klobstrosity's art
my absolute nigger
Nathaniel Torres
fpbp.
Lucas Sanders
>”Mario should go back to the old SMW promo art again”
But they’ve been using that since 3D Land
Carter Bennett
Carter Rivera
New Mario lost soul compared to the old one, but just like Zelda & DK it didn't lose it completely.
Current Nintendo still has some soul left. (it's the most soulful of all constructorsright now)
Noah Wright
Punishing corporate for their lack of soul.
The whole industry is SOULLESS. Good 'ol Nintendo is doing its best.
Hunter Reyes
>kirbyfags thinking their pink blob of shit has soul
Adam Gonzalez
>italian plumber rescuing princesses from giant evil turtle while eating mushrooms and riding dinosaurs
>no soul
yeah I'm sure a PINK FUCKING BLOB has more soul. So creative, Sakurai. Get out of my thread.
Oliver Lewis
Go back in time before allstars
Connor Mitchell
This post made me sad. Why not let me live in ignorance of this.
Jackson Ward
Hey that is pretty nice. thanks.
Adam Peterson
Fag.
Luke Parker
Boycott Odyssey
Ethan Hill
odyssey is just a shit game in general
Joshua Powell
press D to dab on the seething mariofags.
Sebastian Mitchell
Aiden Hill
Not only does all stars look and sound like shit, I feel like the controls are also awful. Everything feels off. Does anyone else think this?
Luis James
Has anyone ever tried recreating the older box and promotional art in motion?
Levi James
how long will this artist stick around? he was supposed to retire a while ago. i'd hate to see him go.
Michael Ross
Fbbp.
Parker Diaz
>Bing bing WAHHHHHOOO
>200 different games of this exact same garbage that was never interesting or fun in the first place
>N*ntendoids think this is soul
Honestly I pity you people
Wyatt Sanders
Yea most people who aren't retarded agree
Hunter Wood
>An adult that plays n*ntendo bing bign wahoo shit typed this post
Isaiah Carter
“How they actually look” is actually better, so that pic doesn’t work.
Benjamin Campbell
If Nintendo were to make a proper New 2D Mario game, what would they do to make (you) interested?
The NSMB series is overdone and derivative, Mario Maker exists for making all kinds of regular and bonkers levels, so a new entry should ideally do something genuinely new.
Jose Clark
A new artstyle and sound. The NSMB stuff is functional but its bland and overdone. I'm not really sure if I'd want them to go 100% cuphead, but hand-drawn sprites in the vein of Wario Land Shake it with an artstyle reminiscent of would be a good start.
New level themes. We've seen the usual Grass-Desert-Snow stuff so many times. Experiment with new themes that influence level design in new ways.
New mechanics. SMB has always prided itself on being easy to pick up, but a new entry would HAVE to do something different so people don't just wonder why Nintendo didn't simply release it as a level pack for Mario Maker 2 or something. New types of enemies, moves and powerups that change how the player approach the game.
Kayden James
>All games are for kids
wrong
Jacob Robinson
Odyssey had soul.
Isaac Miller
Honestly I feel like the 2D Mario formula has essentially been "solved" in that the internal workings of it's game logic has been so thoroughly explored that we can just let people take the building blocks of the formula and make their own levels like we have now with Mario Maker. It feels like the next step is for Nintendo to create new assets and mechanics for players to build with that isn't limited to the pallets and aesthetics of previous Mario games. 3D is the future for Mario.
Carson Taylor
A complete overhaul of the artstyle and sound like what said. If we have to keep multiplayer just give me fucking Wario already.
Jeremiah Johnson
>how long will this artist stick around?
He's left the company since 2007 and does freelance work now. I'm pretty sure the only post-leave Mario art he's done was for 3D Land.
www.mariowiki.com/Yoichi_Kotabe
The artist that does the modern 2D art is a really good imitator though.
Julian Price
Odyssey had soul
Ayden Ortiz
what level is that green cave? I don't remember that
Dylan Gonzalez
Get rid of over-endearing gimmick directions.
We don't NEED to have Mario talk, nor does we want everything to be surrounding the gimmicks.
Mario is a cat, EVERYTHING IS CAT
Mario has a different hat, EVERYTHING IS HAT NAO!!!
Toad's old voice>>>>new voice.
Connor King
Nailed it
Lucas Sanchez
Oh and get rid of the name Bowser, give him his original name again; King Koopa.
Julian Richardson
Idiot
Cooper Turner
Mario maker is peak 2D Mario. It will never get better, all they can do is improve Mario maker.
Jeremiah Rogers
someone finally said it
Isaac Cooper
nice bait
Camden Morales
64 D's crushed Nintendo's soul. They haven't been the same since
Jack Smith
You're just projecting your disillusionment and unhappiness unto the modern game industry. Games had soul then and some games have soul now.
Kayden Davis
you don't some games should have died when SNES era ended
Dominic Sullivan
Go play ur gay open world Mario dress up simulator with 1000 moons
Andrew Ward
This.
It's the definite bing bing wahoo platformer. You know Nintendo has completely given up on their vision the moment they release a new 2D mario that's not Maker.
Andrew Gutierrez
the problem is not mario, the problem is neotendo, mario will never have a soul again until neotendo stick to their guns as usual and either uses yet again the awful NSMB format with it's awful WAH WAH sound board or put mario in different situation than a plain/jungle/desert/tundra/lava level
it shouldn't be a fucking surprise that when they announced odyssey, the most put new donk city cause they fucking knew otherwise people would immediately understand nintendo was in no fucks given mode
i mean look at previous mario games, mario world invented boo houses which at the times were an amazing idea but now have become a dull certainty, mario land 2 had a level in a fucking giant robot where you fought the three little pigs as a boss
oh and speaking of the three little pigs boss
FUCK BOOM BOOM, i don't even want to see his sorry ass ever again, he's even more boring and dull than the koopalings
Kayden Hernandez
you know what hurts the most? despite all the boring ass formula nintendo pulls over and over, nobody will ever call nintendo on their shit praising nintendo for their creativity when mario galaxy 2 went as far as actualy reusing almost every boss of the first game
is that creativity? recycling your own stuff and calling it a sequel? puah
Kevin Collins
>Boom Boom shows up for the first time in decades after his initial appearance
"oh cool I remember him!"
>he shows up again
>and again
>and again
>and again
>and again
jesus christ nintendo give him a rest