NO DUNBAN, DON'T KILL HIM, YOU'LL BE JUST LIKE HIM

>be Xenosaga villain
>rip off your own head just to traumatize a loli robot

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>shulk became a god for a moment just to fix his waifu
>dont bother bring back everyone else who died.

melia race is doomed to die out now. thanks shulk.

>Machina
Mechon I mean.

>saving his waifu while dabbing on all the other nigs
Based

But that's not what Shulk was saying. He was saying that justifying killing Mumkhar could lead to them justifying killing Fiora later.

He was about to kick Jin's shit in before the massive Guldo arrived.

When the fuck is monolith gonna announce anything

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X’s sidequest villains were fucking weird.
>Xenophobic pizza shop owner
>Mentally deranged man who is obsessed with lobsters
>Guy who tries to poison the water supply, has his plan get foiled by a single alien completely by accident, and just turns himself in after realizing how pointless it was

Go to bed, Melia.

Hopefully when they've managed to find a writer that can make a Fei-tier MC.

How did they go from KOS-MOS to this memelord

Just how

Based dunban

>NOT LIKE THIIIIIIIIS

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>actually kills a truly too far gone asshole
base-
>dies in the next scene
fuck you Homolith , I still love you

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Shion was a more unique character than Fei

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Seethe more Meliacuck

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>muh daddy issues
Hell no

someone post weird Fiora porn

>Melia didn’t even get an “I love you and all you guys”

It’s not fair

>muh amnesia
fuck off gearscuck

More like
>autism so severe she made her old fucktoy's robot look like a sexy lady so she could be lesbian butt buddies with it without having to fear rejection
Sounds pretty based to me

Like everything in XS it could have been better but the development got so fucked over by Namco suits that it ended up paling in comparison to Gears.

Well, she also never had the courage to actually fucking confess.

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Like this you mean?

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I played xbc1 and thought it was okay. Im playing xbc2 and I love it. What xeno game should I play next? I'm not familiar with this series and I want to know where's a good place to go next

NO SHULK, DON'T KILL HIM, YOU'LL BE JUST LIKE HIM
Shulk just really likes that cliche, says it to everyone he can, even himself.

How much would you pay for Hikari's bathwater?

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Unique doesn't mean good.

Everything else about xeno is unfinished or rushed

X is similar to 1 in terms of gameplay, although with way more emphasis on side quests and exploring and way less emphasis on the plot. In fact, it has one of the worst, most convoluted, most unsatisfying plots of any video game I’ve ever played. But the gameplay is so good that it’s still my favorite game of all time.

Xenogears for sure.

>Albedo did nothing wrong

NO DUNBAN, DON'T SAY THE M-WORD

As someone in food service I identified with that pizza guy.

Fiora gets fixed in a cut sidequest not by Shulk.

I didn't say it did. Shion has a more interesting character arc, but Fei's is executed much better.
Gears may have had its gameplay gutted in the second half, but Saga's "second half" is entirely nonexistent and crammed in one 30 hour game.

Like the other anons said, XBX if you want more exploration, XG if you want more story.
I played XBX > XB1 > XB2 before marathoning XG and XS I-III earlier this year. Despite how different they are, XB2 served as a good segway into the earlier Xeno games for me. Just realize that all of the pre-Blade titles have some pretty glaring flaws.

He didn't. As much shit that people give XS2, it did a great job of building up the URTVs and their relationships, especially Albedo.
People say Jin and Malos did nothing wrong but they still killed a shitton of people for retarded reasons. I don't think Albedo directly killed anyone, despite his endgame being more or less the same.

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Play X.

I am surprised we never got a xenoblade bundle, do you guys think will we ever get one?

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Play Torna after 2.

I don't think this thing will even be able to play XB2

>People say Jin and Malos did nothing wrong but they still killed a shitton of people for retarded reasons.
Are the people who say that actually serious? Even both of those characters recognize they've done horrible things.

it'll run it, it will just be in ultra crusty handheld mode graphics
on the plus side, maybe the release of this thing will finally convince monolith to patch the fucking game and make it slightly less hideous undocked. even just toning down the sharpening filter would do wonders.

How do you rank the blade series villains to Gears and Saga? I found the Blade villains pretty decent but I can't compare them to gears and Saga yet because I haven't played them

Everyone knows Jin and Malos killed tons of people. Hell even Rex that is a naive dumbass recognizes that and puts Malos down himself

Rex was going to let him live if he stopped Aion.

Rex didn't kill Malos because of what he'd done, he did it because Malos gave him literally no other choice. He spends like half of the fight trying to convince the guy to stop.

Minge Gang.

All day. Every day.

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Rex was such fucking cuck when he didn't kill Jin, I fucking hate the autistic no kill rule that japs love so much, pissed me off in Xenoblade 1 too when Shulk stopped Dunban from killing Metal Face

Calm down Ammy

>I don't think Albedo directly killed anyone
He killed all the white-haired lolis

this.
it's frustrating that people completely ignore the entire part where Rex calls Jin out on being exactly the same as Amalthus and also says that his actions are unforgivable, then try to claim that at the end he forgave him
I get that the dub's version of Rex's response to Malos in the final fight makes it less clear than it should be, but not wanting to kill Jin didn't mean Rex thought his actions were forgivable, even after he died

Anyone find it weird that Dunban was completely unaware of High Entia existence yet it was comfirmed that Homs actually interacted with them before the war in Galahad?

Yeah that was really odd. The worldbuilding in Bionis was very abstract. Though to be fair, XB2 also had Temperantia and Judicium which never seem to fit in any particular timeline.

Yeah, that didn't make much sense. Otharon and Dickson both knew. It's not like anyone had any reason to keep it a secret, it's pretty ridiculous for Dunban to have thought they were a total myth.

XC1's world is a pretty flimsy backdrop for Shulk's story, unfortunately.

Temperantia/Judicium fit in just fine. Torna doesn't address it much but it *technically* doesn't retcon anything, it just ignores it. It's weird writing, but it's not that egregious.

Did he? I wasn't sure if they just died out like replicants or if he did it.
Not that realian scum count as people anyway.

He had the shittiest death in the series and you can't convince me otherwise.

>Lives live a faggot and dies like a faggot
Seems fitting

How would you fix Sharla?

Dunban was fucked up on ether coke the entire time

MINGE

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Bigger tits

Have more attack arts, shorter cooldowns or an actually useful talent art that doesn't lock her out of chain attacks. Also have her weapon damage Mechons normally since it's attacking with Ether bullets and not physical force.

He really liked his gory 80s-90s oav so much that he had to make a real demonstration of it for the new generation

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>This was """""censorship""""" in 2002
Why can't we go back to that era...

She needed a couple less healing skills and another more spammable skill like Thunder Bullet. Thunder Bullet spam w/ electric plus gems while Drive Boost is active is great DPS, but the AI won't use that combo obviously.

talent art is a mode where the gun does dot to everyone (friend or foe) to power a superstrong basic attack

What was the point of her supporting Melia in the Shulkbowl if it just fizzled out

You say that, but just 4 years later we got the travesty that was XS3's localization

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I think I can fap to this

youtu.be/DlIhKRv3dXE
Such wanton violence!

This video never gets old

Why do Shulk and Alvis sound like butt buddies in japanese?

Shulk can say things like that. Becouse of loire.

Oh gee I wonder

Alvis is essentially Shulk's blade and shulk is his driver.

Turn her heat gauge into an ult.

Talent art tosses the heat sink like a grenade which functions as an attack, the more heat, the more damage it does
Head shot has a 100% proc chance
Thunder bullet book is easier to get
Drop a couple of healing arts and exchange them for damaging arts

BORN IN A WORLD OF STRIFE

>I played xbc1 and thought it was okay. Im playing xbc2 and I love it
Judging from that taste, Neptunia and Tales of seem to be right up your alley.

actually she was fixed by the machina doctor, it's in the secret files, shulk did absolutely nothing

it will, it appeared in the trailer when koizumi says what games it can run

Now if only they'd bother explaning how Pyra and Mythra came back, and seperately at that.

Xenosaga is the only good Xeno series

Lets be honest for once.

Xenogears was terribly overrated and has a shitty second CD.

Xenosaga was never good. None of them. 5/10 games at best.

Xenoblade was a legimately amazing game.

Xenoblade X was a mediocre open world mech game.

Xenoblade 2, despite being full of the worst kind of anidumb trash scenes and writing, as well as dumbing the original down, is still one of the best JPRGs in years and a console seller, and Torna was a great addition.

So what do we get?

XBC1 > XBC2 > XG > XBCX > XS
Every other opinion is worthless.

Xenoblade was dogshit and 2 was middling, the fuck? Saga 3 is the only good xeno game.

>Xenogears was terribly overrated and has a shitty second CD.
>Xenoblade was a legimately amazing game.
What does Xenoblade have over Xenogears? It has massive areas and good pacing, but what else?

It's A Threat For The Player Lmao
Ihope they retcon this for the next game like how they retconned the space station and klaus's motives

The first Xenoblade is good but massively, massively overrated.

>Story direction and worldbuilding
XS1 > XG > XG3 > XG2 > XB2 > XB1 > XBX
>Gameplay
XBX > XB2 > XS3 > XS2 > XB1 > power gap > XG > XS1
Your opinion is complete dogshit. If you valued gameplay you would prefer X, if story either Saga or Gears. While XB1 has no major flaws its also the game that doesn't have any major strengths.

tl;dr user is a retarded zoomer who only got into Xeno because of Shulk being in Smash

based and xenopilled.
>saga
>game
lmao

>XG3/XG2
I'm a retard but you get the point

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So you're saying the ashes and beam of light that brought them back should be explained at the very end of the next game?

Aegises don't need to explain shit, nigga.
They just can.

they came back because they're blades
they came back separate because lmao fanservice

Ye I agree.
People here tend to forget just how amazingly well received Blade truly was. Not just by journos but also by players and Yea Forums. The old Xenoblade threads were some of the best this board ever had.

I seems that over time the old Xenofanbase got too butthurt as well as fans who like the direction of the sequels feeling the need to fight needlessly.
In the end what matters is that Blade has been a more successful series than Gears or Saga has ever been, both creatively and mechanically. And Xenoblade will probably forever be hailed as the greatest game in the whole Xeno franchise until they manage to up it in the future.

I feel a bit sorry for Gears but then again, it was only good when I was 16.

>how they retconned the space station and klaus's motives
???

Based subakitsu

I mostly agree, but XB1 = XB2 for me
not because I think 2's an amazing game, but because I think 1's overrated. good, but overrated.

no I'm saying that only one of the girls should have made it, not both

XB1: space station and klaus makes a new universe because he was a cliche mad scientist
XB2: space station is now an orbital ring and klaus created the new universe to prevent other people from stealing the conduit

So if Amalthus didn't die, then Malos would have just respawned right in front of him at the end?

>they came back because they're blades
The core was dead

>I'm saying that only one of the girls should have made it
That doesn't make sense either.

Different user here
>love XB1
>love Tales of
>love Star Ocean
>despise the shit out of XBC2

>cliche mad scientist
wat?

he literally wanted to lead humanity into new world where they can "evolve" beyond human capabilities. unless you try hard to generalize it as a "dae wanna make super humans" theme, it really wasn't a cliche mad scientist at all

>That doesn't make sense either.
It does, Pyra is blade not a person, the core crystal wasn't destroyed so the core can make another Pyra but she probably wouldn't have memories which is why Rex was not ok with letting her die

Malos's core crystal was damaged at the end, and this time he wasn't able (or didn't have the will to) to keep himself going like he did at the end of the Aegis War.
Pyra and Mythra's core was absolutely fine. It was inactive, not dead or damaged in any way.

>Malos
>villain
Brainlet spotted

I played all the Xeno games. I didn't finish a single one of them and dropped them all out of boredom. I dont know why I keep buying them... Everytime I think this is the one I will keep playing.

Well its not quite true, I didnt drop all of them out of boredom. I dropped XB2 because it was garbage., but the point still stands: see you all in the next game.

work on your attention span, zoomer

"It was simple curiosity, the curiosity of a single man that destroyed the universe and created a new one"
Also you are wrong, he didn't want humans to become gods, he was the one that wanted to become a god, if what you said was true then XB1 wouldn't have ever happened because everyone would have had the same power anyways but only him and Meyneth existed. In XB1 the universe was actually destroyed and the Bionis and Mechonis were created, XB2 retconned it so that the experiment failed. XB2 retcons XB1

you sound like a fucking moron who's way too easily manipulated

Thats not a retcon user. They just advanced it and gave more insight. The games other connections are sound as well.

>the core crystal wasn't destroyed
Then what was the purpose of showing its light go out as she removed it from herself? Why did she act like it was a her literal final few moments alive? Even Malos asked her what it felt like. Literally everything lead up to her being gone for good.

BORN

that's a retcon, you people probably think of retcon as "removing content" because other stupid companie do it that way but it's not that, retcons can expand ideas which is what XB2 did

>XB2 retconned it so that the experiment failed.
The experiment is as much of a success in 2 as it is in 1. To the inhabitants of the old universe - whether dead or alive - it was a failure. To the three who made it into the new one, it was a success.

There's no point in spoilering that. Everyone who gives a fuck about Xenoblade has already played XC2 and knows Alvis was the third Aegis.

INTO

INTO

A PACK

ON A WHOOLE DIFFERENT PLAANET

>XB2 retcons XB1
ugh it really doesnt though. everything laid out in 1 regarding klaus still holds up in 2.

i dont think you know what a retcon actually is.

A SMALL VILLAGE

so whats with japs and the whole "cant murder him or youll be like him" shit? can someone explain it to me why is it so frequent there?

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here read this and educate yourself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity
If you don't understand how Klaus's motives change and that the space station was RETCONNED into an orbital ring then you are a bonafide brainlet

Because it's better to try to redeem something than destroy it.
That's the whole message of the game

>space station is now an orbital ring
youtube.com/watch?v=BtcfMP_72zg
It still looks like an orbital ring in XC1. Its just not as dressed as XC2.

That pizza guy was tragic.
The Ma-Non were the fucking worst. Any time I had an opportunity to let them deal with the consequences of their shitty actions, I took it, rather than bailing them out.

>Then what was the purpose of showing its light go out as she removed it from herself?
Because that's what inactive cores look like? A normal Blade's core would've gone dark if it was removed like that too (and eventually be ready for resonation again), the only difference is that they wouldn't be able to keep their form for a bit like Pneuma did. Hell, just an hour or two before that scene we see Akhos get his core ripped out of his chest by Amalthus and lament that if he was still a normal Blade, he'd be fine (or something close to that, at least).
>Why did she act like it was a her literal final few moments alive?
Because as far as Blades are concerned, it could've been. If Rex re-resonated with the core crystal and "Pyra" came out as a new Blade with no memory, the old one's basically dead.
Hell, even if they kept their memories at the end, the 'original' Pyra and Mythra are still technically dead, and those are just copies with access to the memory data that was saved in the core.

The fuck are you on about? Nokill faggotry is WAAAAY more prevalent in Western comics than in any form of Japanese media.

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I don't think handheld is that bad

They came back separately because rex view them as two different persons.

It's not anymore frequent there than here.
XB2 is less of a "don't murder him or you'll be just like him" and more of a "murder is fucking wrong, just subdue them"

Fei is literally just your average anime boy with a sense of justice. His only querk was the animus multiple personality shit that's literally just a plot device and adds nothing to the character himself.

>and more of a "murder is fucking wrong, just subdue them"
It's not even that, it's "I'd prefer not to murder if I don't have to, but I won't hesitate if I need to".
Nobody gave a single shit about the deaths of any of Torna's Blades, and Rex was only mildly sad about Malos's death for like a minute.

well if we go by KR thats not valid, most hesei riders are pretty savage, Kouta didnt hesitated to murder Kaito, even Eiji finished the professor, and Sento pretty much nuked the planet to get rid of space goey

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Man shulk needs more lewds. He cute

It's not. The graphical fuck ups are almost exclusive to Gormott, the rest of the game looks fine.

wtf are you even talking about? the motivations didnt change

and wtf are you on about a ring? its not a ring, it goes up, the other ones are high above it.
what you're thinking about is this you confused retard.

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I'm fine with XC2 retconning and clarifying some things but what the fuck happened to my boy Alvis? You'd think they would've taken the chance to properly clarify what became of him when Shulk returned in XC2.

XBC2 took all the gay anime tropes and turned that shit up to 11.

shit i worded it wrong, i meant that rider in general is pretty savage, but anime shit and some japs games do the no kill shit, (except that Advance wars game)

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fuck that, I want you to explain to me why the japs love gacha so much that they thought its a great idea to put a capsule simulator into a singleplayer game?

what a fucking shitty decision is that please? especially since the unique blades have their own quests. ye i really love spending hours upon hours to grind gacha so i dont miss content. fuck you you piece of shit chink who thought this was a good design decision

yeah, even though the screenshots from it are ugly as hell, after I beat the final boss I went through all of the DLC content and NG+ in handheld mode and it was totally fine
they're probably leaving that open for the sequels
he's the only monado left that isn't nerfed/dead

gacha in single player games isn't a new concept at all
xb2 definitely puts a lot more focus on it than the average game, but it's shown up in japanese games for ages

AGAINST THE ODDS

>Nobody gave a single shit about the deaths of any of Torna's Blades
I did ;_;

Wait
Why is she a snek?

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WE CHOOSE TO FIGHT

Dude thats not a retcon.

They just updated the design a bit for the second part, nothing in the design "retcons" anything from XB1. Thats really not how the retconning works.

>Because as far as Blades are concerned, it could've been. If Rex re-resonated with the core crystal and "Pyra" came out as a new Blade with no memory, the old one's basically dead.
Ok, i sort of get it now. But then that begs the question, how did the memories stay if Pneuma of all people was so sure she would be gone?

And I sorta just realised, did they maybe split because pneuma needed the conduit to stay fused?

BLOSSOM DANCE

I wish they'd all been added to the rare blade pool immediately after their deaths in the main story instead of NG+ only.

I like XB2 a lot, but I prefer XB1. XB1 was like fucking magic to me. OST, characters, setting, world design and the plot twist heavy story were all on point. I loved Reyn and Fiora the moment I met them, and when Fiora gets killed so early on it was an actual shock to me.
I played this game just about two years ago on Dolphin, so no it's not nostalgia.

there are some places where it dips to really low resolution but like 99% of it is completely fine
pic related is a pic i took

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He will appear with the Zohar in XCX2 when its revealed they both got teleported to A DIFFERENT PLANET. Screencap this. I'm sticking to my guns about the conduit popping up in XCX dimension next.

no dont you see? they totally "retconned" the station!
they also totally "retconned" shulk's design!

no but seriously, that guy is an idiot

I didn't care on my first playthough actually it took me until chapter 6 to even realize that Sever had died alongside Obrona but I got pretty attached to them after using them in NG+.
They deserved better. Cressidus and Perdido didn't even get any lines before the game offed them, and none of them did anything wrong besides being unlucky enough to get shitty people as Drivers.

I'm guessing this is the reason we're not getting a Xenosaga HD trilogy for modern systems?

>how did the memories stay
We don't know if they did. The ending's left open, and there's no official word one way or another, just speculation.

They split because rex view them as two different person. There is enough foreshadowing for this.

>nostalgia
Who the fuck is nostalgic for XB1, the game came out 2011 in the west.

Anyway I agree, the first time you reach the knee was a magical moment.
>but like 99% of it is completely fine
Eh, I'd saay 70% because it does that a lot in battles but you dont notice it so much.

"Pneuma" is not a different personality, it's literally Pyra and Mythra active at the same time, Pneuma is the name of the Trinity Processor core and Pyra and Mythra are the blades born from resonating with it

I agree.
It would have been better if they were actually collected after they were defeated, like Roc, and you had to do a little side quest to unlock them again.

Thats one way to say that the devs had no idea what they were doing or to write themselves out of this properly so they just didnt say anything.

Bought them time.

It's a happy ending according to takahashi, and poppi runs up and greets them with a smile and hug that seems like they knew her. Also the girl you choose in chapter 8 talks to Rex. I don't see how any of that would make sense if they lost their memories.

Haven't started NG+ yet, does the thorna blade has their own quest?

The original ending was just the core glowing again, nothing more. (Takahashi wanted it to be like Inception, apparently.) If what you're saying was the problem, they would've stuck with that instead of adding all the extra stuff.
Nope, just heart to hearts.

>mfw I find this kinda hot

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>Thats one way to say that the devs had no idea what they were doing or to write themselves out of this properly so they just didnt say anything.
That makes no sense either because they could have ended the final chapter at Rex and co chilling on gramps back after the credits and everything would still make sense. They spent the time and effort to animate more shit, so it was very clearly deliberate.

They didn't retcon the space station hurrr
xenomira.wordpress.com/2018/11/28/translation-of-background-information-on-siren-included-in-the-siren-model-kit/

>space station changed into orbital ring with 3 different towers
>conduit retconned into the story
>on going war in the background retconned into the story
>extra scientists at the moment of the experiment retconned out of the story (this one is actually irrelevant)
>Klaus presses the button to prevent rebels from stealing the conduit andn ot because he was curious like he was in XB1
>Alvis being the administrative computer of the station retconned into the Trinity processor being the administrative computer of which Alvis is part of

DUDE XB1 WASN'T RETCONNED HUUURRRR

oh no

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Okay. But why? Weirder than Pukei Handler

EVOLTOOOO!

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What did Fiora do to deserve this

youtube.com/watch?v=bSbeIJZgKDw
He was fucking committed to cutting Mumkhar down until Shulk talked him out of it.

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God i wish that was me.

>Klaus presses the button to prevent rebels from stealing the conduit andn ot because he was curious like he was in XB1
I think curiosity is still meant to be one of his primary motivators there, not just the rebel thing, but anyone claiming XB2 didn't retcon shit is seriously retarded.

I need to watch Kamen Rider.

When's XC3 lads?

>Alvis being the administrative computer of the station retconned into the Trinity processor being the administrative computer of which Alvis is part of
I don't think anyone was denying this. There are however retards who don't think Alvis is the third aegis/Ontos.

After X2

I'm proud of all you Xenoblade Chronicle fags.

>Ontos
*Ousia

>played this game just about two years ago on Dolphin
I've never used Dolphin or PCSX2 but was looking to replay XB1 and the Saga games in better quality, is there any tinkering with the settings to be done to play XB1?

Xenosaga and Xenogears both have aspects that wouldn't fly in a T ESRB game, let alone Cero. Doubt Ninty would let Takahashi cut off such a huge chunk of the audience like that but who knows.

Ciao~

Build was a great love story.

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Seriously, what did the localisers mean by that change?

shulk is a retard but I love him anyways

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Cucking Melia

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worked like a charm for me at 60fps but I had to increase CPU overclock to 122% or something. I played the entire game (around 120h) with that setting and had zero issues, however the final boss definitely was a slowmo fest so I had to drop it to 30 fps for that.
Though, this was on my old 2600k so if your CPU is better I doubt you'll have the same experience.

I would also recommend getting the HD mod for it.

Shulk is such a goody goody faggot but its because he's so good at being a goody goody faggot I can't bring myself to hate it.
No homo I'd let him top me.

Well, he's saying he wants to make a M rated game next. Who knows if Nintendo will actually give him the okay on that, though.
I guess they didn't want to spend the five minutes teaching Adam Howden how to pronounce it and just replaced it with something easy. Galatea, too.

Honestly I'd probably outright hate him if it weren't for Adam Howden's 10/10 performance.

I wouldn't go that far, but he definitely added a lot to the character.

Does anybody know what's up with nips and xenoblade 2 today, ever since the announcement of switch lite they been spamming Twitter post recommending xenoblade 2

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Japs want everybody to play Pyra's game

They really like the game and people who skipped the regular Switch and are picking up the lite version to play it.
The Japanese Xenoblade fanbase on twitter shills it at pretty much every chance they get.

I'm not quite sure, but I don't mind. It's kinda cute.

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That's pretty odd considering its reviews on Amazon aren't great

>The Japanese Xenoblade fanbase on twitter shills it at pretty much every chance they get.
thats news to me.

They were going hard when the vouchers released

this absolutely, made me like my X mc a lot more too

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There's something really off about running around and talking to people in 2

I cant really put my finger on it, but I'm just thinking "no this ain't it", whereas it was fine in 1. Something has changed and I dont like it, yet I cant say what it is exactly.
Something feels just wrong.

Also, does someone have a list with all store bonuses?
And fuck the guy who thought its a great idea to lock skills behind buying out stores, and not even knowing what you get before you do so. What a shit idea. I want running speed you jap faggots not some bullshit elemental passive. In 1 I could just craft it myself!

Amazon JP reviews are pretty much shitposts

They shilled better that any company could, they were shilling went swimsuit came out, they did it with torna, they did with pantyhose mythra, they did it with the voucher, and they are doing It again with switch lite

Its one thing highlighting the changed and dumbed down or missing mechanics when comparing it to the other two games.

Its another still loving the game for its "more than the sum of its parts" charme as well as Japanese fanbases obviously being as relentless as ever.
I follow a jap circle in which it seems as if Trigun is still relevant. Japs are the best to make it feel like the best times never stopped happening.

For me, it's the lack of the little voice clips when you talk to people. And how there's no more distinction between important and generic NPCs, so you end up with a lot more tutorial dialogue mixed in with actual worldbuilding and such.
Also, the way all the NPCs are static instead of moving around and such. Makes the towns feel less...'alive'. (Though I don't miss having to spend ages hunting down people to see if they had new quests/dialogue.)

Maybe it's that NPCs in 2 don't have little voice clips when you speak to them?

japanese are the ultimate media and corporate drones
they have no soul

This is correct. I can't believe people are still misinterpreting this scene all these years later.

Shulk's argument boils down to "we don't know how much control the face pilots have over their actions, so killing Mumkhar because of things he may not have had any control over is a slippery slope." It's also implied that Shulk wants to keep Mumkhar alive so they can get information from him; he tells Dunban he "has to know why" there are homs piloting face mechon.

The whole "IF WE KILL HIM WE'LL BE JUST LIKE HIM!!" element of Shulk's character falls apart when you remember how readily he kills Zanza at the end.
>inb4 "but Egil!"
Egil's plan wasn't just a revenge gig, kidnapping homs/destroying the Bionis was tactically beneficial to him. Shulk understood that any alternative would have resulted in the total destruction of the Machina, and sympathized with Egil because of how similar his own motivations were.

Why does everytime we have a xenoblade thread we have to have the same shitty OP

>how similar his own motivations were
Egil was basically pre-prison island Shulk now that I think about it

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This game series is garbage

>we don't know how much control the face pilots have over their actions, so killing Mumkhar because of things he may not have had any control over is a slippery slope.
Except by this point in the story Mumkhar has already reiterated multiple times that he's completely in control. That should be more than clear to Shulk and everyone else.
There's also the question of what is supposed to have happened to the other Face units that Mumkhar brought to fight the party (and also taunted them about how they could be piloted by their friends or family) and are gone in the cutscenes after the fight.
The only real explanation for their disappearance is that the party killed them already, which begs the question - why the fuck is Mumkhar, the scumbag who revels in his role as a traitor to the homs, the one Shulk is willing to go out of his way to save, and not those people?
Because this fanbase is addicted to bait and ignores normal threads.

bait leads well into discussion when the community isn't completely insane, worked for monster hunters for years before things went tits up

the biggest difference between them is that the closest thing egil has to a fiora equivalent is meyneth, who not only didn't die, but specifically begged him not to do the whole 'slaughtering the people of the bionis' thing before she went to sleep

The real issue with the scene is that the party really didn't have any choice but to kill Mumkhar at that point. If they didn't then he would have killed them instead, and it was only by sheer dumb luck that he ended up dying without the party having to actually do anything. Shulk trying to spare him was blind stupidity on his part and it doesn't ever get addressed afterwards.

So XC1&2 are happening in universes parallel to each other. Where does X fit into it?

It doesn't, at least for now.

It would've worked a lot better if Mumkhar was already out of his mech at that point, and the party actually had him at their mercy.

Far into the future of the XC1 universe, post-Shulk reset.

For the time being, based on the XB2 DLC it's just some random unconnected universe.

I presumed his fiora equivalent was the huge portion of his race that got wiped out by the inhabitants of the bionis. Or am I misremembering things?

Watch XCX be like some LOST tier place that is purgatory.

But Rex deliberately made the choice to kill Malos, even though he knew Malos was prisoner to his condition and wasn't 100% at fault.

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that just feels like it's equivalent to all the random people from colony 9 that died.
we know 'people died' but that's it. we never really hear about anyone really close to Egil who was killed other than Arglas being taken over by Zanza. and Meyneth having to rest after the battle I guess. Egil's dad and his sister are fine, and he had friends among the survivors but was apparently willing to kill a bunch of them when they tried to get him to stop?
the Egil/Shulk comparison just feels weak to me. they've obviously got intentional similarities but I don't think it's as close as that user was saying

They don't kill the other face mechon. There's a line later in Machina Village where Linada tells the party to bring her any face pilots they save.
>Mumkhar had said multiple times he was in control
Why the fuck were they supposed to believe him? Especially when the only other face Mechon they had met were Fiora, who clearly wasn't herself, and Xord, who didn't even remember his old life.

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>There's a line later in Machina Village where Linada tells the party to bring her any face pilots they save.
Do you have a screenshot of that or something? I've tried to find it on my own but I've never seen it.

>If you kill me, you'll be just like me!
>I guess you're right.

I wish

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He didn't have any other options left at that point, he had already spent a ton of time trying to get Malos to stop the whole 'suicide by cop' thing he had going on and they were on a time limit with the whole Conduit thing.

I don't, I'm sorry. It's definitely optional dialogue. Might be part of the replica Monado quest? I don't remember too clearly.

Damn.
I really wish XB1 had a full datamine like 2 does, it'd make finding this stuff so much easier.

I love how Mumkhar was stronger outside of his mech than he was in it

Poor Torna Blades deserved more. The way they went out is brutal

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Are High Entia retarded or something? At least the emperor
>knew about the fate of High Entia
>knew that half high Entia were the solution to that telethia crap
>lol let's just confine our race and my half human daughter and don't do jackshit about it

I felt nothing when Melia's father was killed and almost ruined the prison island scene when I think about it

gotta keep that shit secret, because otherwise people might...fuck too many homs???

>Patroka and Akhos find Mikhail familiar
>he lies about what they did

They should have been handled better. Akhos seemed to be the closest to Malos too

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For what it's worth, it's also been speculated for a very long time that the lack of an explosion in the Mass-Produced Faces' death animation strongly implies that the homs inside don't actually die. Apparently this is confirmed in Monado Archives. I have a copy, but I can't read Japanese unfortunately.

Exactly the same score as Splatoon 2, or SSBU. You wouldn't say Japs don't like Splatoon 2, would you? Amazon's nip score are basically metacritic shitposting central.

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AH, MONADO BOY, I MADE IT. DESPITE YOUR DIRECTIONS.

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You definitely missed this

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>lol let's just confine our race and my half human daughter and don't do jackshit about it
That was sort of a problem with Egil too. He knew the High Entia imprisoned Zanza, so why not talk with them about it before sending death machines to capture the homs?

This is one thing the should improve on in the next Xenoblade (or rather, go back to), and preferably, take inspiration on how it's done in Zelda. Be it BotW, OoT/MM, WW, etc. Zelda always does NPC interaction amazingly. I love the little quirks

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>Akhos asks if he can still call Patroka sister
>she just says "ew"
what the fuck, game

He at least has his personal grudge against the Bionis as an excuse for why he wouldn't want to work with the people on it. Especially considering the High Entia are the Telethia, and they were the ones who helped wreck his home.
The High Entia don't really have any excuses, though.

Patroka more tolerable as blade than as an enemy

her VA was waaaay better in the NG+ stuff too

Cute kot

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I mean what other option did he have

None. That's why 98.5% of the time in jrpgs, in such situation, power of love/power of friendship/bullshit comes over and resolve the situation easily. But not in this case. Rex had to do it the hard way.

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why didn't he just try using the same master driver bullshit amalthus pulled on mythra earlier to force him to stop

That's adorable

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Amalthus used Haze's core crystal to pull that off. Rex didn't have such luxury. Besides, Amalthus his also more experienced anyway, he had 500 years to perfect his abilities

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Amalthus was using Indol to do that

This game looks pretty nice emulated
Though I'm gonna remove the updated hair/face textures, they look like shit.

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>spoiler
Thank god some people have some sense.

Didn't realize I fucked that screenshot
Oh well, the point remains

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if it was something amalthus could only do because of haze/indol why would gramps tell rex that "there isn't anything he can do that you can't" when he was controlling mythra

>Though I'm gonna remove the updated hair/face textures, they look like shit.
good taste

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It could be interesting how it was said in the original to see if there are some nuances, though I bet it was the same, which are words to encourage Rex

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Piss off Fiora slave

>Luxaar's motivations for hunting humans were actually pretty decent
>faggot just a dick everytime he is on screen and screams at everyone that enters his room even though he needs his underlings reports

Was there no better way to write that guy?

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7 years of asshurt lmao

Quick reminder the physical edition is 29.99$ on amazon RIGHT NOW
You have NO EXCUSE
amazon.com/Xenoblade-Chronicles-Golden-Country-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B07DJZNHHB/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=torna&qid=1562786509&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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Here are the lines, if anyone cares to compare.

Amalthus! You won't get what you want!
I...I'm...Rex's Blade!
Th-that's right! Rex! You're the Aegis's Driver!
There's nothing he can do that you can't!
Does that mean...?
Rex, it's true!
Power depends on the heart of its wielder... Right?

あなたなんかの 思い通りにはならない
わ 私は レックスのブレイド
そ そうじゃ レックス お前も天の聖杯のドライバー
彼奴にできて お前にできぬ道理はない
オレにもできる[ML:Dash ]
そうさ レックス
力は それを扱う者の心次第[ML:Dash ] だろ?

Which country do you hail from violent user?

Maybe the Monado screwed with his memories too

>this 60fps patch
God damn I really had no idea what I was missing playing this on Wii
Really makes me even more conflicted that Monolith is held back by underpowered Ninty hardware

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A WORLD

Reminder that Nintendo makes their consoles underpowered on purposed because they know they can't make home console quality games because their devolppers were always on handhelds

OF DIFFICULTIES

Permanent phenuma when?

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IN OPPOSITION TO THE MOST PROBABLE OUTCOME

Bingo

PETAL PERFORMANCE

I'm going to MARRY Morag

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She looks better with her hair down

NOSOTROS ELEGIMOS LUCHAR

Hopefully in the anniversary update, just like when they gave us pantyhosed Mythra

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Pantyhose mythra was an anniversary thing?

Salvager sword best sword

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Yeah, it was released on the Dec.1, and XC2 was released on Dec.1 2017 in Japan.

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Though I forgot to add, they didn't specifically released her because of the anniversary, it was because of Smash Bros, which came out basically at the same release date in 2018. Or maybe it indeed was for its anniversary, who knows.

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When is next anniversary

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user, read again and try using your brain this time

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>60 FPS Xenoblade
Tell me more

Well... in December, obviously. You shouldn't post when you're drunk, user

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lmgtfy.com/?q=60 FPS Xenoblade

Why is Alvis so powerful compared to Pneuma and Malos?

Of course I can fucking Google it, I wanted to actually hear about it.

His core doesn't have to run the BLADE_PROJECT.exe program and host all the accumulated data of countless Blades and Titans throughout unknown ages.

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He isn't limited by the blade system like they are.
Also, I think the names of the processor cores somewhat imply that he's meant to have more power than them, but that could be a coincidence.

Why is Pneuma's design so much better than Pyra's and Mythra's? It genuinely looks fucking amazing.

It's 60fps Xenoblade 1, but major cutscenes are still locked at 30fps for obvious reasons
What more is there to tell?

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I'm about to start this up.
Subs or dubs, Yea Forums?

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Some major cutscenes are ruined by poor dub acting/syncing so make your decision based off that.

Begun with subs and do your second playthrough with dubs

Subs for quality voice acting, dub for QUALITY voice acting.

It's the Ponytail. She's Peak design.

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Just wanted I dunno, experiences, impressions, ease of set up.
I've done the NTSC fix for the PAL ISO before.

>anidumb trash scenes
I don't understand, most of those "egregious" tropes make up about 2% of the overall journey, and they're willingly employed--be it to subvert them, for laughs, or because the devs have a boner for them.

Each Xenoblade has an aesthetic that inspired them, and it is incredibly dishonest to say that none of them are generic or full of tropes. They are, they wear them on their sleeves--which is the beauty of them.

>Goes on a quest for vengeance
>Finally able to exact his revenge
>Gives up and has a fucking heart-to-heart with the villain
>Dickson shows up out of nowhere and blows Egil's brains out
Kino.

Ez pz to set up. This is my first time ever using dolphin but the guides lay everything out for you.
Works really well so far, but Fiora hasn't even died yet so take that as you will. Either way, I'm surprised at how well my rig is handling it.

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What was the narrative purpose of this scene?

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XB1 or XB2?
If XB1, 100% dub. If 2, the dub has some good bits honestly I like it more but is otherwise something of a clusterfuck, so the easy choice is the sub, because it actually has some fucking quality control.

My rig is pretty similar, GTX 770 rather than 1060 though, but Dolphin is more CPU dependant than it is GPU, unless you want to render at higher resolutions.

Pretty cool though, I may try it sometime.

>Dickson shows up out of nowhere and blows Egil's brains out
I think you may be misremembering what happened there a bit, user.

I fucking love them. Never forget Alex. Alex just wants to make NewLA great again.

You forgot to mention that he gives up his revenge only after finding Fiora alive, which was lame.

The REAL kino was Zanza phasing out of Shulk, revealing his smooth as fuck keikaku that he was pulling off from day one, and just mindfucking them all with massive redpills about his control over their fates.

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>tsun tsun girl, who trapped herself inside her mind for 100+ years, and is very much a normal girl despite her circumstances and power, who just wants to be accepted, crawls into your bed
Gee, I wonder?

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>perdido is a honorable samurai type with a weapon fetish
>obrona is a free wheeling, lackadaisical trouble maker
>sever is a freedom-loving man who's cynical about his prospects of being tied to his Driver
>kressidus is a fucking pro-wrestler
Not to mention the extended development all the actual members of Torna got
There should have been an alternate story for NG+ where you in-story recruit the Torna members after you defeat them and they show up in cutscenes

which was 8 years ago

I really do love how Klaus in 2 is basically the opposite of Zanza in 1, I was totally expecting the final boss to be literal God again but I was happy to see God was just some fucking guy who got sick of humanity's shit and gives up.

HHHHEEAAALIING HAAAYLLOW

Its sorta weird that his hair is blonde in the XC1 sequence while it is brown in the XC2 sequence.

I got spoiled on "Zanza being the architect" unfortunately, and was afraid it would be very shoehorned and unfitting with XB2, but damn they did him justice both as a character and how they integrated it into both stories. The parallels between the two are amazing.

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It's the difference between an active god who believes he knows best and a passive god who believes he'll only fuck things up again so he'll just stay home instead of bothering anyone

I like how end of XB1 is the party telling their god to fuck off and let them live their own lives, while the end of XB2 has the characters genuinely grateful to Klaus for his work recreating the world, and Klaus giving his creations one 'final gift' by sending the Titans down to merge with the cloud sea. They're neat counterparts to each other.
I think the hair thing is just because of the filters on the flashback sequences.

Where would you place Xeno in the official IQ chart?

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It's actually not memeing to say one need high HQ to enjoy Xenogames

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For Gears and Saga, maybe. You most definitely don't need high IQ for Blade.

>Even Rex likes the ponytail the most
absolutely based protagonist

Post your favourite music that aren't the usual popular ones.

youtube.com/watch?v=jKcQ-CQX-Ik
youtube.com/watch?v=DtZsTqSc6qg
youtube.com/watch?v=Bl45h7YMIQc
youtube.com/watch?v=y7xL77-QOy8
youtube.com/watch?v=cImlYLzYRZs
youtube.com/watch?v=U8ZLL1Hv7Bk

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youtube.com/watch?v=ifvuPEOWc6I
i like how dramatic it gets for a regular battle theme
very underrated imo
from the ones you posted i really like colony 9 especially the night one and also hometown
youtube.com/watch?v=B4_VC4e3_Yg

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False! If I kill him, he'll be dead! I wont be!

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1,000,000 hours in mspaint
I was assuming y-axis was IQ but looking at it again whoever made this was retarded

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God damn Hometown from 1:15 to 1:40 is pure nostalgia.

>but looking at it again whoever made this was retarded
If you couldn't tell that from the anime and wojaks on the chart then I don't know what to say.

Should probably trim down this list but fuck it.
I love Xenoblade music. I need to finally get around to playing X so I can hear its soundtrack.
youtube.com/watch?v=jjV1EudLVlY
youtube.com/watch?v=y7432aq7frU
youtube.com/watch?v=EKOmix6wURA
youtube.com/watch?v=_O9fyT-HFFI=
youtube.com/watch?v=ZXZI_5YXceE
youtube.com/watch?v=9cuSqIEj7z8
youtube.com/watch?v=c_gH2vPmr2U
youtube.com/watch?v=5aMpIhw1K1Y
youtube.com/watch?v=-eU9N59CkkA
youtube.com/watch?v=wQDBTGhmh0A
youtube.com/watch?v=RHQ-WaaP8q4
youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-LLbh4NW0
youtube.com/watch?v=0RNc5VBNXbI
youtube.com/watch?v=MfpplDh9TFQ

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>the Ancient Vessel
My man.

I'll also add this from XC2:
youtube.com/watch?v=0cl3LryRvD8
youtube.com/watch?v=CDxY6Xv2yTI
youtube.com/watch?v=dTq1MwdocqM
youtube.com/watch?v=46cgv9nCAFY
youtube.com/watch?v=P9kLM5DLKgY

And basically all the other night themes. What's with XC2 having top tier night soundtracks anyway. On top of the day ones also being top tier.

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Personally, I was a little disappointed that none of the night themes in XB2 were new compositions (like Satorl Marsh and Valak Mountain's night themes were in the main game) because it made them a little predictable, but they were still damn great.

Postan underrated tracks from each game

youtube.com/watch?v=MQi7vk9Yzdk
youtube.com/watch?v=kzVA4tDyVXk
youtube.com/watch?v=6c78NBWaf-o
youtube.com/watch?v=kzId-AbowC4
youtube.com/watch?v=J4uoZuGy4AY
youtube.com/watch?v=EmUeqMnWmDY
youtube.com/watch?v=b1PCTjVQ2Xs

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Where's the best place to grab an ISO for XBC1? Currently downloading an 18 part archive from MEGA and it's downloading pretty slowly. I really want to have it all set up on Dolphin since I'm getting pretty close to finishing 2.

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Sweet Song is my favorite ending track of all time
People give XS2 way too much flak

tpb, top result works like a charm for me and only took ~2 hours to download earlier today

When I started playing XC2, and was graced with the earkino that is Argentum's themes, I knew it was the shit. Then we were blessed with Ancient Vessel right after. And then Gormotti forest. Hot damn, I thought they already blew their load, but how wrong I was. XC2's soundtrack is a legit masterpiece. Not to dismiss XC1's and XCX's (to an extent, in its own way), they're also god tier. But by its sheer raw quantity of excellent tracks, XC2 is basically unmatched. All right, FFIX is still right there.

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>tpb
Ah, I see. I'd use it but I haven't bothered to look up what domain it's under after one of the moves a couple years back and last time I used it my university caught me and issued a warning. Too lazy to grab a VPN either. Guess I'll just hope the download I've got going now works out fine. One of the commenters said it still works as of last month so that's nice.

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Just disable seeding like the leecher you are and you aren't trackable
It's still org, they just have a backup with every domain extension under then sun

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>Just disable seeding like the leecher you are and you aren't trackable
Oh shit yeah I can do that,totally forgot. Thanks user

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Oh god I remember the Pizza guy. I was just walking around NLA and suddenly a Manon drops from a building. Xenoblade X is that kind of game that will never happen again.
Also fuck those big things in Oblivia.

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Both the day and night Alba Cavanich music makes me want to join the Ardainian boys and uphold the pride of best nation.

Not gonna lie, I had my doubts about the OST because Argentum felt a bit too bland disney to me at first compared to XC1, but all my doubts were washed away in a sea of comfiness and goosebumps soon after. People hype up Counterattack and Roaming the Wastes, as great as they are, but for me it was the atmospheric mood setters that really drew me in. Spirit Crucible Elpys is also a personal favorite of mine.

Woops sorry, the last paragraph of was meant for