Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order director says a non-human hero would be cool but it could "alienate a lot of people"

I can't imagine how much of a narcissistic brainlet someone would have to be to be incapable of relating to a character just because it doesn't look just like them.

Imagine caring about normalshitter garbage like this

Not me, I want an alien character who's ass I can stare at the whole game

go fight in disneyland, nigger

You faggots cant even handle a different sex or ethnicity.

not balanced for lean

General audiences legitimately cannot relate to characters who are not human, and some cannot even relate to humans of a different race/sex. This is just one of those bullshit things that railroads popular media, like how it's proven that having a title with a "4" at the end will lower interest in your movie/game/etc. unless it's a massive property because people assume that anything that goes beyond a trilogy starts to lose quality, but for some reason the 4th movie in a series just having a subtitle doesn't set off that alarm.

The average, basic bitch, normie won't buy a game where they play as a Rodian.

retard

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4 is a cursed number no kidding

I'd rather play as an alien then the ugly sob they chose.

>alienate
lmao

fpbp

Yes welcome to every other fantasy game with multiple races. Want to play a non-human? Fuck you. If you do it's always weak shit like dwarf or elf.

Normies will eat up anything with a Star Wars label as long as it isn't shovelware, even Battlefield did okay even with all the shit surrounding it

This user is correct. The people making the game browse Yea Forums and see all the bitching and whining over diverse MCs, but apparently aliens are now okay? Whats next, a dinner plate? Lmao just face it you fags have no idea what you want so long as its something you can bitch about. Maybe get another hobby you bunch of crybabies lol!

>Battlefield

I meant Battlefront, fuck, though it might as well have been Battlefield:Star Wars Edition anyway

Normies hate playing as someone that doesn't look like them.
You have to understand, most people are horridly unoriginal and cry when they can't play as something that looks even vaguely like a human.
It's why the horde population in wow exploded when they added blood elves aka pretty humans.

Let's be honest, that really doesn't matter at this point does it user?

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. It's a fucking video game, not some boring historical biography. Wouldn't it not matter if the gameplay was good/fun/enjoyable? Instead of focusing on superficial aspects like this as if it were a movie.

The real reason is always because faggot normals want to self-insert and unless they got a fursona their npc programming is too shitty to do so when the player character is anything non-human or too far removed from human appearance. Well either that or because humans are easier to mocap and face scan thus saving money on shit that doesn't really matter that much in the end.

It could ALIEN-ate a lot of people, huh?

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Well the new little mermaid isnt going over so hot

Unironically if they made the protagonist a scantily clad female Twi'lek it would have sold more copies and everyone knows it.

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Wow, when will the discrimination against droids end?

Marketing can't sell gameplay. Since marketing rules game design, they go with safe, mass-market appeal to maximize revenue.

>alienate a lot of people
good one

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Aliens aren't put into the game to propagate and agenda or spread the myth that brown people are beautiful looking or even appealing to look at. Dilate.

What even is this game

they're not wrong. how many scifi things are there where the protagonist is an alien?

Surprisingly, there are dudebros out there who literally think playing as a woman is lame and gay.

yeah yeah just let me know if i can romance her
that'll show me they have the balls to do what they want if they allow a villain to be loved

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>First post points out how idiotic and bigoted the audience is
>Bigoted idiots insult him and deny the facts

considering how well nier automata sold i find that hard to believe.

He looks like he has Asperger's

But Call of Duty 4 is what saved and made the franchise

>proving him right
Faggots

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The logic with people here is that aliens do not exist in real life, thus featuring one of them as protag isn't pushing an agenda.
I disagree with the premise entirely.

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Current generation of gamers only play self insert characters.

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proving him right of what, retard, where's my darth maul spin off game

i for one would like to see more games with my goblin brothers
>actually, this thread is about politics
oh whoops sorry thought this was a thread about video games where you play as non-humans for a minute since that would be a good thread. shoulda known better since op was about ea and star wars huh
destroy all humans was cool too

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It says right here that Destroy All Humans! is a very good video game.

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And that's why people hated that WALL-E movie because it starred some robots, right? No, wait, everybody loved that shit because those robots were endearing.
If the only thing your character has in common with the viewer/player is 'being a real human bean' then you've written a really shitty character

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Fuck humans.

reminder that WALL-E is a poor mans Ergo Proxy. If you ever see both you will understand why.

Go to /pol/ if you want fight about race and sex retard

most normies literally cant watch/play something if they cant directly relate with the protagonist

>most men* literally cant watch/play something if they cant directly relate with the protagonist

Fixed that for you. Women have no trouble putting themselves in male characters, its only men who have this problem.

Enemy mine but that was just a metaphor for whites and blacks getting along better

Are you a woman or man? Or an effeminate man?

They're not wrong. Look at all MMO games, literally everybody plays humans or elves, anything more extreme looking has almost nobody playing them.

>being a man hate

Go beg a brother to give you some dick

He's right you know

The problem is that a woman playing a female character can't get immersed because she's too busy being jealous toward it.

oh shit, that's why nowdays we have goblinas and fit men in videogames?
please, you can't be serious

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wait What? I've watched both (not recently) but what do you mean?

Actually fpbp

The majority of normalfags can't handle anything that looks even remotely non self insert and this extends to retards who get triggered over mcs of color or women. Honestly I don't see why you would even bother considering its nu-star wars and thus any alien on screen is going to be a brown blob instead of an iconic species from the old fluff.

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Nier automota

im a 5'5 manlet with long blonde hair
i have enough dick thanks
thats not true, nier automata is very popular with women

both of them contain a group of people who left the earth because it was fucked up, left some robots in charge and had to come back at the end

Then give the option to play as something else? Pretty sure that Jedi Academy let you play as all sorts of shit, although your name was always Jaden. I fucking hate this shitty non-argument. Bioware said the exact same shit around ME3, and Destiny's selectable races are shit. Do these companies just forget that MMOs have non-human heroes all the time and people are perfectly fine playing as things other than humans?

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Based on the amount of shitposting every time a female/brown protag is revealed, I'd say they're right.

mostly was played by women

Thanks user I really needed the laugh

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>shitposting
>actual argument
choose one my dude

>5'5
my manlet brother
its time to rise up

I think you need more dick

I appreciate your commitment to being a retard user.

>>guys, non human characters just don't sell! players need to be able to self insert!
>proceeds to completely forget about every single non-human character with successful franchises that sold tens of thousands to millions of copies in their franchises

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make the character a fucking stick figure for all anyone cares

if the game sucks it doesnt matter

That’s funny because I always went with Kel Dor or Rodian male in Jedi Academy. I’d love to have another game with Kel Dors.

im actually lowkey fucked tho
>5'5
>no chin or jaw, completely round face
>no fucking adams apple
>shoulders way too slender
>hips too big

im literally a fucking basedboy and my parents are to blame. the worst part is that my bones are fused and im stuck like this

its 7.5 long i think i have more than enough thanks

I hate EA so much

prove me wrong user. women fucking love nier

>nier automata is very popular with women
That's because you play most of the game playing as a queerbait boy.

People loved the clone wars and that was about an alien.

I mean in your anus

>my dick is 7.5 long

That's like 3/4 your body size

I keep my statement user, because anyone with a brain would know that the onus is on you to even prove your retarded statement right.

>That's like 3/4 your body size
i know, i get teased for it a lot. if im erect and stand up too fast i get dizzy.

Self-inserting is the most overrated concept in writing.

And it wasn't called call of duty 4, it was called call of duty: modern warfare

>the humble brag soiboi
actually cute. im a little too hairy and grizzled to be any of that. except maybe the round face, which has to be the worst of the list.

if you actually had any female friends you would understand user

I don't get how this is so surprising on a website that constantly gets triggered and goes 'ooba booga other skin bad!'. Naturally the same troglodytes who can't handle nuance in anything would do the same when presented with a lizard faced motherfucker.

>humble brag
how is any of that good? i will never be a real man and i will be teased for the rest of my life just as i already have been for being so small and feminine. im fucking stuck like this. IM A FUCKING MANLET ONIONS BOY

So what? 99% of stories are about humans.

Cute non argument user, keep it up.

It's funny how right this user is. Definitely struck a nerve.

>he admits to having no female friends
Imagine being more of a failed male than a literal manlet.

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Girls like cute boys. Give it some time, and try to play the part as well.

Dudebros dont play nier automata

>Girls like cute boys.
oh i have no problem with women, thats easy. the problem is that other men always bully and tease me for it, especially if i wear skinny jeans. always making comments about my big butt. i think they want to fuck me but miss me with that gay shit.

idk, i like my height. but thats because im into guys that have a significant height advantage over me. youd be suprised how many checkmarks you're hitting for some.
this too, basically.

>469821004

>projection then deflection
Considering I started out laughing at you its interesting you've chosen the path to more retardation.

Fuck aliens
Fuck women
Fuck SJWs
And
Fuck niggers

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>and some cannot even relate to humans of a different race/sex
Sounds like a lot of people who post on Yea Forums

>Ergo Proxy
I literally slept through the last 5 eps. Unintentionally. First and last time it has ever happened. Should I rewatch?

Rather the MC be black than be this gay fag.

Duh playing as an alien will definitely alienate me, just as playing as a human will humanize me

I almost exclusively play as non-human races if the option is available.

I would gladly fuck an alien or a woman but you can keep the other two.

But they keep telling me to have sex. I gotta cast a broader net.

>Lucas couldnt kill Star Wars with Holiday specials and Prequels for 35 years
>EA and Disney do it in 5

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Dial-8

How many book's do you know where the protagonist is part of a hive mind? How many sci-fi books take place outside of more than galaxy? Why do most tv show aliens have human faces? Because the consumers of media look through and empathise with things that have human like characteristics. You could have a game with a legit alien but people won't buy it, just like people hate games with pointless ugly characters. videogames cost way more money and manpower than a book so there's a lot of incentive to play it safe and turn a profit.

Anime exists and is wildly popular, so your little bitch theory doesn't work.

i genuinely want to play as a gungan because i really like their designs even though everyone hates them

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This, you need to drop this in Halo threads, this is why Halo 2 and 5 got shit on.

yes. unironically one of the best animes i have ever seen. Good action, good plot, female protagonist isnt a mary sue and has real character development.

only real problem is they kinda hamfist some exposition in one of the middle episodes. thats its only real flaw.

and they do it by just remaking a new hope and it still fucking blows

watching something and playing something are very different, but i dont expect an autistic sperglord like you to understand.

Sick pun

fucking kek that headline is so retarded

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>Non-human hero
>Alienating.
You're funny.

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Straight white men have been playing games starring robots anthropomorphic characters women black men creatures and little aliens rolling things up into giant balls since before you were born bitch

This is literally an excuse made by bad writers. Many writers have and will continue to make really good non-human characters, while the boring generic human characters will continue to be forgotten by the people meant to be self-inserting into them because that's what they are. They're nothing. They're mannequins. They're not anything special. They're just the "player character". They're not actually characters. If your character's entire trait is that they're relatable, that's not an actual character at the end of the day, and you've shamed yourself as a writer. Making non-human characters allows for a wider variety of possibilities that are often ignored, and you can show prejudices against them that go beyond the color of their skin. But of course these "writers" ignore all of that, and the best, most important qualities they look for in a main leading protagonist is marketability.

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>most men* literally cant watch/play something if they cant directly relate with the protagonist
>watch
>watching something and playing something are very different

I expected the goalpost to move, but not through actual illiteracy and memory defect.
Keep being a little bitch.

Also, anime games with no male protagonist exists and are wildly popular, keep being a brain-dead waste of oxygen.

He is right, though. A pretty visible portion of Yea Forums gets triggered by that kind of thing fairly easily.

Only because they have to and they complain about lack of female characters constantly.

Good on you expanding your horizons, user.

This, I think it's the biggest crutch with stories in games that the protagonist is rarely a character and is usually just a blank slate for the player to project onto.

Why is Disney so racist with their Star Wars movies? 90% of their characters are human. No aliens in main roles. Admiral Akbar fucking dies and gets replaced with a human. The only alien main character in Solo dies in the beginning of the movie.
Not to mention they’ve yet to include an OT alien.

Not him but exactly, this shit happened with Halo 2 but the weirdos of Yea Forums like to ignore that but those who fought to get Arbiter removed from being a main character in Halo 3 and Locke removed completely from Infinite along with Locke and Chief's stupid teams know and remember.

Completely true, but I highly doubt this was their reasoning. A human MC is probably easier to market and sell toys off.

>calling niggers and women non-human
BASED

>>watch
>watching something and playing something are very different

I know you have the tism so i will try to break this down for you, but the only word I changed was people. the origonal poster is the one who said watch/play. I dont care about nor do i think about people who watch things. Please try to pay attention when following a comment chain newfriend.

>anime games with no male protagonist exists and are wildly popular
men jerking off while playing anime games does not count as a legitimate gaming experience.

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>Women have no trouble.
Women were the ones making the biggest stink that the main character was a Caucasoid. The last half-decade of internet bitching has been about how they can't relate to male characters. Try again.

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What is he talking about? Look at all the female protagonists, they have been putting in non-humans in games for decades.

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HES A FUCKIN GINGER

The whole reasoning falls apart when you consider how relatable and endearing something Wall-E was

If a square-shaped trashbot could be lovable anything could, but no that requires effort

>Caucasoid
thats because most protagonists are male and they would like to play as a female for a change
>how they can't relate to male characters.
No, thats not what their argument is at all. They have no trouble playing male characters, they just wish there were female protagonists TOO.

Halo 2 is regarded as the best by a large portion of the fanbase. In 5 you don't even play as an alien so I don't know what you're talking about.

Nah, women get really upset when there isn't a vagina on screen at all times.

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both of those are non games. TLOU was a walking sim

Nah, fuck that. Aliens aren’t exactly known for chimping out in Disneyland, or fucking licking tubs of ice cream in grocery stores as pranks. There’s a big difference between wanting to play a different species out of curiosity, and NOT wanting to play a different race of the same species because they repulse you.

citation required
>inb4 case study of 100 people

>non-human hero would be cool but it could "alienate a lot of people".

So this is why he's white? Pretty based of EA

>Halo 2 is regarded as the best by a large portion of the fanbase
Only on Yea Forums, Halo 2's campaign even to this day is still regarded as one of the worst in the series. Halo 2 was good for the multiplayer just like Halo 5 and that's it. When looking at shining examples of Halo's campaigns, people look at Halo CE and Halo 3. I literally don't know what's wrong with you guys and Halo 2's campaign.

And now the illiterate fuckface is teaching me how to follow a comment chain, and doing slightly more regular goalpost-moving.

If you,
1. don't give a fuck about people who watch things
2. think games with female protags aren't legitimate gaming experiences just because LMAO ANIME
why are you replying to this comment chain, "comment chain expert"?

I hope you feel like shit for the rest of the day knowing how retarded you actually are. Or maybe brain problems are just a regular recurring problem for you.

holy fucking based Yea Forums btfo

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Go back to shitposting in Halo threads, Chief fag.

Wasup

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They actually did in the past, and the game was unnoticed simply because it came out on the wrong system in a bad time period, otherwise gameplay was great.

These fag directors are so clueless it blows my mind they just don't know and don't care about the star wars franchise.

I have no doubt even Disney would be able to make a better SW game.

Why wouldn't they simply bring back Kyle Katarn for a new Jedi Knight game? How would that not work out?

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I rather be an alien than a nigger

>cant follow a reply chain
>gets called out on it
>spergs the fuck out
>expects anyone to read his temper tantrum

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based and redpilled

Did I hit a nerve? No one likes playing as an alien or some no personality black guy with a cool name, this has been the case since 2004. Glad somebody spelled it out in this thread because it's true.

This, Arbiterfags get shot.

>I can't imagine how much of a narcissistic brainlet someone would have to be to be incapable of relating to a character just because it doesn't look just like them.

You mean like niggers, women and SJW's?

He's not wrong. Normies need spoonfeeding.

Quantic Foundry.
You are right though, it should be thrown out, women don't play video games.

Eh, point is falling back on SJW pandering to defend lack of gameplay choices is pretty weak

How does Disney fuck up star wars this bad?
>Games go to EA
>Theme park get meh reaction from attendees.
>Ryan Johnson
It's so badly mid handled. How is Iger still in charge? Star Wars should have been free money.

>women don't play video games.
im in a lesbian discord server that requires voice interviews just to get in (to keep men and trannies out). MOST of them play video games, but its shit like GTA, asscreed, etc etc. They mostly play AAA garbage.

>They want to see human conflicts like relationships and learning to understand themselves and others.
I want to see a Star Wars game where I can have a relationship with a cute Bothan girl.

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people like playing as aliens, you dumb faggot. The only ones saying otherwise are baiting.

Yeah, them and anyone who complains about black or female protagonists are seriously fucking stupid

BASED everyone that replied to this knew it was bait and still responded

Needs more Sexy Twi'lek protag games, honestly. I would be hype.

Everyone you know actually hates you because your brain problems are visible and obvious from your replies in conversations.
They think you're a slimy cunt that can't be reasoned with, and will flip and evade worse than a bipolar bitch, pointing fingers elsewhere and shunning responsibility.

You'll die alone.

No one liked playing Arbiter in Halo 2 and Elitefags got shit on in multiplayer.

Is he referring to Finn or Rey?

No chance. Twi'lek will never appear in a major role in a Star Wars property ever again since they are too problematic.

>women finally saying no to trannies.
Is this an emerging movement? I've seen nothing but trannies encroaching and robbing from womens institutions up to this point.

All characters are polygons and have no real form. Guess you'd better find a new hobby and leave this board.

Halo fans disagree with you.

I've never understood why people need to have characters be the exact same as them.

See the usage of racial versions of emojis. You will have a view on people who can't identify with a monotone yellow and I assume you won't be far.

Why, I along with many other Halo fans saved the series three times in a role every time Bungie and 343 made some dumbass decision like sidelining Master Chief in his own games.

this is some of the funniest and spergiest projecting i have ever seen. Holy shit user you need to calm down before you punch a hole in a wall.

You mean Yea Forums, Halo fans are mostly made up of normies and they all love playing Chief, the only ones that liked playing anyone else were either never fans or faggots, and I mean literal faggots.

The replies prove this person right

Contemplate my bewilderment.

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discord lets servers make whatever rules they want for a server so yes, there are places where women can go and the only way you could get in as a tranny is if your voice passed and you lied

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It always does, I say this shit in Halo threads all the time on Yea Forums but these faggots like to just put their hands on their ears like a 5-year old bitch.

Is the autist obsessed with self insertion back?

>Two of the most popular characters across media are actual (albeit human-looking) aliens
>"Non-humans just don't work, guys."

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>draw a human
>call them an alien
this is just as bad as drawing a girl and calling it a boy. Humanoids are basically just humans

>spicnigger choice protag

The statistics show that in games like RPGs that have the choice to be an elf or something foreign like that it's always the minority choice, humans pick humans.

I know it's a weak example, but I had to at least get it out there. Not that I disagree with what you're saying.

dont you dare compare my nigger arbiter to no personality Locke.

Star Wars aliens are not fucking Saiyans or Kryptonians. They're puppet-headed monstrosities.

Could have just pulled a DA:O and let people choose their origins. Do you know HOW MANY people would have chosen a Twi'Lek female? Or Male?
The amount of porn, written or otherwise, for the game would have skyrocketed!
>Jedi Twi'Lek slut captured and fucked by empire
>Sissy Twi'lek Jedi whore forced to suck superior human dick
The shit writes itself. Hell, porn aside you could have had FUN with that shit.
>The first Gungan Jedi in millenia stands against the Empire and revives the Jedi Order!
But naw nigga, we're getting another POS -preOT game where nothing you do matters because you literally know what's going to happen. Luke and Vader and then Rey and all that shit. Fuck this.

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Maybe because the Arbiter's sections in Halo 2 were boring.

It's funny because it's true.

>most people are normie faggots who don't even have the brainpower to not self-insert
What a shock

>elves are the most played race in WoW
>khajit is either the most or 2nd most played race in ES: V
>Miqo'te 2nd most played race in FFXIV

but somehow no one wants to play an alien

Gungans get a bad rap because of Jar Jar, without him they'd just be another curious alien species in the galaxy. They have some pretty fucking good shield technology too.

>source: my ass

I am, so deal with it, you show trailers like this and then give use something completely different. Fuck both Bungie and 343 for this shit, lying cunts.
youtube.com/watch?v=4ycOwVPqbxA
youtube.com/watch?v=9i-4foLur0g
youtube.com/watch?v=ZipoIbBDf-c
youtube.com/watch?v=DqD2MkOwDcU

Fpbp

*us

I unironically liked Halo 2's campaign. I enjoyed seeing Covenant society and the beginnings of its civil war, and I like Keith David and thought the Arbiter had cool armor.

I couldn't agree more with you, I really don't know what they were thinking with it.

It's brainlet niggerfaggots like you that bitched about having to play as Arbiter that they never tried anything cool like it again.

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>t. Scalemutt
Go back to being dead legomom

Maybe because it was handled poorly in Halo 2, I loved the Covenant and their mystery in Halo 2, Bungie did a good job killing all of that in Halo 2 and making them uninteresting, way to go.

They're fucking cool and Jar Jar wasn't even that bad, he was certainly no worse than every other obligatory comedy character from the time

trannies and faggots aren't human so video games are their only opportunity to be one

Yes bless his soul, he's saving us from the mentally ill who'll become alienated, and then demand that we recognize their new alien gender and want LBGTQ2+ changed to LBGTQ2+A

*I loved the Covenant and their mystery in Halo CE

Did a lot of people find about about beastars recently or something?

Anime got announced.

It's getting an anime, what do you think?
Same exact thing happened with MiA.

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>non-human hero would be cool

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>It's another Yea Forums brags about how much smarter they are than "normies" episode

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>they still made the main character white

Man the peddling is hard.

>normies
spotted the normalfag

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Wasn't it announced in like February or March? Why are so many hopping on the bandwagon now?
Shit I thought this wasn't going to happen because it was in 3d and nobody said shit months ago.
Ah well, should've known better.

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look at how many people you triggered lmao

>non-human hero might alienate people
>but a black trans quadriplegic attack helicopter wouldn't

W-What the fuck is that supposed to mean

Are there non-humans that play games?

I fucking hate Disney so much and wish the mouse never got his cancerous paws on Star Wars.

Isn't the anime going to be on Netflix in the West? If so, that wouldn't surprise me if the Western advertisements are rolling out after the Japanese ones. People also might have decided to get into the series at that time and have been hanging low because they don't want to get spoiled before they can catch up to what's current.

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