In Jojo's All Star Battle, if DIO's and King Crimson's power go off at the same time in a match, which one wins? Does the time stop affect Diavolo or does his counter override that?
In Jojo's All Star Battle, if DIO's and King Crimson's power go off at the same time in a match, which one wins...
Leo Johnson
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Elijah Perez
Probably Dio as Crimson itself is pretty much skipping time. If Dio freezes time no matter how fast King Crimson may try to skip time and/or read Dio's movement the fact that Dio can attack in frozen time means the second time starts again he will have no window to react to the damage.
Jason Stewart
It depends on the timing of KC
Jaxson Gray
>the world goes off
>diavolo skips the whole 10 seconds freeze
>back to point one
Dio because he's stronger
Joseph Lopez
What makes you think Diavolo can activate KC during the frozen time?
Parker Thompson
>if DIO's and King Crimson's power go off at the same time in a match
Henry Johnson
basically this, it's basically been proven that when two stand powers are in direct conflict with one another, the stronger user wins the bout, and DIO is far stronger than Diavolo. Based on what we saw from the end of part 3, it's entirely possible that both DIO or Jotaro would still be able to at least partially if not fully function during KC's timeskip because of their ability threshold, GER proves that the time still exists by slipping into it and fucking with his timeskip ability.
Nathaniel Jones
I'm going to miss his stupid face.
Jonathan Peterson
KC can’t skip during the stopped time. It’s why both Star Platinum and The WORLD completely wall him out. Hell epitaph can’t even project it. To diavolo outside of the stopped time DIO is practically teleporting. He can cut out the moment before the WORLD is activated negating anything that happened during it but that really only hurts Jotaro who is held back by stamina requirements. DIO fucks in Diavolo i’m every scenario not under the sun.
Isaac Walker
So can all users use their stands to talk or that in certain cases?
Jonathan Ross
>same time
fuck. i can’t read. sorry user.
Nathaniel Murphy
4>2>1>3>eating literal shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Aiden Nelson
assume that talking is a free action in jojo that doesn't take time
John Watson
>Use Epitaph
>See DIO teleport or see your face getting blown in
>Oh shit I'm boutta die
>Use King Crimson
>DIO confused as hell, he can't use The World because he already used it and is somewhere he wasn't on before
>Smash his head in from behind
Easy battle.
Gabriel Phillips
Could Boingo beat KC?
Zachary Powell
I think if DIO froze time before Diavolo activated King Crimson, then Diavolo would just be stuck for however long time is frozen. But if Epitaph can predict DIO "teleporting" (I doubt KC can see frozen time) then he may be able to cut out the moment where DIO activates time stop.
Connor Cox
>Phantom Blood above anything
>Stardust Crusaders above Vento Aureo
Shit taste
Xavier Reyes
Boingo would see a drawing of his face getting bashed in
Christopher Gutierrez
>use Epitaph
>???
>see nothing
>wait what
>skip time out of fear of the unknown
>nothing happens because you can't skip frozen time
>wait what
>die
fixed it for you
Brayden Bell
maybe if he has a really strong stand user to help him
Robert Walker
DIO’s world has no limit bro. He can use it as many times in succession as he wants. He would just be confused for a second, and use it again only to turn around and see a horribly dressed italian man in the frozen time winding up a punch he’ll never get to throw.
Asher Nelson
Nothing can happen at the same time as something stopping time. It's impossible.
William Wood
I miss ASB
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Asher Hill
The World has a cooldown
Luke Miller
7>2>3>4>5>1
I honestly have no idea where 8 goes
Isaiah Green
Do animefags love being 20 years behind on shit?
Nolan Brooks
>uses it 3 times in a row to fuck with Polnareff
no.
Adam Parker
DIO can only stop time for a few seconds, he can spam it anytime he wants, because he's a vampire.
Caleb Myers
it's deleting time. stopped time is still time. the stopped time is deleted. win.
Xavier Cooper
>>Stardust Crusaders above Vento Aureo
you can't argue that SC is worse than VA, you literally can't
Dont get me wrong SC is the farthest it could ever be from perfect but part 5 is on a whole different level of shit
Nicholas Nelson
Animefags are the ultimate lazy asses.
Connor Thompson
SC is fun but VA has better fights, stand abilities, artwork, and characters. Your taste in general is shit regardless if you think any part is actually bad.
Adam Perez
>it's deleting time.
It's not.
Charles Thomas
Did you miss the ENTIRE reason Jotaro was able to freeze DIO you retard?
Carter Bell
i like talking to them about shit that’s been on my mind for years. don’t know why they all refuse to pick up a damn book and read but it’s always nice seeing new faces.
James Bell
it means that king crimson returns in part 9
Colton Sanders
let's assume your incorrect evaluation of that chain of events is correct. What does Diavolo do once he has deleted the stopped time? His stand is not physically strong enough to overpower The World. At worst he attacks DIO from behind, bashes his skull in, and DIO laughs while regenerating before shoving a 10 foot pole up Diavolo's ass while he is trying to process why this immortal monster is not dying.
Oliver Thompson
Jotaro can stop time during frozen time
In general people with time power can become conscious during stopped time as shown in Part 6.
So if King Crimson is able to act for a single moment he can just destroy time.
And even then, DIO can never catch KC in stopped time anyway since the latter has Epitaph.
Leo Wood
>Part 9
Never ever. Araki is more likely to retire than do a Part 9
Chase Ward
>5 has better artwork than 3
no, not at all
Alexander Thompson
ASB was clunky as shit but the fanservice was on point
Blake Campbell
You don't read the manga.
John Watson
He froze DIO in stopped time. Outside of that DIO spammed the world constantly just to show off.
Oliver Roberts
>5 looks worse than 3
if you were arguing manga i’d agree because i still think Jotaro vs DIO is one of araki’s best looking fights but the better looking anime is far and away Vento Aureo. It’s hardly even fair.
Ayden Clark
Please either watch or read SC before making opinions on it on the internet thank you.
Nolan Martin
So I'm curious. Are the voice actors in the anime lifted from the games? I think Eyes of Heaven came after Part 3 so that's a given, for Jotaro at least, but are there any others that are in both?
Nathan Powell
7>6>5>4>3>2>1
Austin Phillips
I wish they'd do a second one instead of the arena fighters.
Joshua Flores
it can if you view it as some sort of malus effect they both put onto each other at the same time, instead of universally changing the laws of physics
so at t0 dio has the
>can't remember what I'll do in the next X seconds status
and diavolo has the
>can't do shit for the next X seconds status
>inb4 the next X seconds can't be applied during stop time
dio was counting the seconds while time was frozen, so there is time somewhere
Michael Long
Even with the best use of KC, DIO as a vampire will survive anything that KC does to him, destroying his cranium and half of his brain or cutting him in half with a chop will barely stop DIO.
Julian Gonzalez
>5 that high
>2 that low
Get. Out.
Cameron Turner
tricky meme jojo is one of the worst ones
Ryder Reed
burning down the house
Anthony Smith
If Diavolo doesn't go in too overconfident, he can technically SURVIVE the fight, but only by running away, he has absolutely zero shot at winning but if he uses Epitaph past the point of seeing DIOs head explode when he punches him and realize that the dude is still alive he would probably decide to just run.
Austin Baker
wont matter in the end because Dio body is super strong and wont get killed by a few punches.
John Rogers
Then why didn't DIO just use The World during frozen time?
Samuel Martin
Gay blonde boring mafia JoJo is the worst one.
Dylan Wilson
>mfw Eyes of Heaven
>Playable Diego with The World (Part 7)
I get they beefed up things for it but ASB was a decent baseline since I enjoyed shit like Jotaro countering Dio as a special move. The 1v1 just works for me
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Charles Wright
We've seem "skipping" vs "time stop" before.
It's possible king crimson would skip the stopped time of the world, and find only a fraction of actual time has been skipped. DIOs actions in stopped time would still happen but DIO also wouldnt remember time stopping at all.
Hudson James
>You can't skip frozen time
Why would you not be able to erase frozen time?
The World stops time for a few seconds. All of DIO's actions while time is stopped occur instantaneously during a single point in time, then time resumes. The World doesn't grant any protection or sanctuary to this point in time. It just lets DIO move around during it extensively.
If King Crimson erased time before DIO stops it, then when the timeline reaches the time stop, the entire process of stopping time and moving around would be erased in less then a femtosecond. There's no reason to believe otherwise. And with that in mind, since time control stand users can move during stopped time, King Crimson just needs a single moment during stopped time to erase all the damage he could take, so stamina under stopped time is not even important.
Robert King
KC is a short range stand, shorter than The World but he could destroy DIO's body in on blow though, so it only depends of how DIO attacks Diavolo, killing him quickly instead of playing with him.
Adam Williams
>Diavolo sees dio teleport behind him and punch a hole through him.
> Erased time and positions himself behind wherever DIO appears.
>a.DIO isn't aware of KC ability and is hit by king crimson via donut.
>Diavolo is killed before he erases time as DIO or the World just ripped him apart.
B. DIO stops time immediately and kills Diavolo
DIO has the advantage since he can tank a lot of damage and still pull through. A single hit isn't a definite kill while KC is great it's not perfect as he has been hit or tricked even with epitaph.
Jordan Green
Cameron Cooper
It's true that The World has a very short cooldown, but so does King Crimson. He erased continuously to move around against Buccelati, erasing extensive periods back to back between the donut and big slice, then to leave the turtle and appear at the staircase. He literally strobes it see a constant playback of the future during the chariot Requiem arc.
Hunter Foster
not the superior
>use king crimson
>skip 10 hours till 1pm
>see ashes on the ground
Oliver Torres
>stamina is not that important
the human body needs rest after a period of around 12-14 hours, even if it is basically doing nothing; DIO needs no rest, ever. Under that situation, Diavolo would still lose in a battle of attrition.
Easton Walker
Actually here's what I mean
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Christopher Ward
DIO would wonder how and when he smashed the gay pink-haired Italian man's head and why he can't remember doing so. It would probably trouble him for a few days.
Evan Gomez
Jackson Perez
KC could definitely hurt dio but not destroy enough of him with one hit to evade being stuck in time stop and murdered. Also DIO's strength alone has more feats than KC.
Jack Sanders
Stardust Dio can stop time for 9 seconds.
Epitaph can see 10 seconds in the future.
Gee I wonder.
Dio thought he could increase his time stop indefinitely given his immortality but as of his peak canon power prior to his death it was 9 seconds.
Brandon Harris
Can someone explain me how did Pucci lose with his fucking op stand?
Jace Cox
Just imagine how the fight would actually go down from Diavolo's POV.
We assume neither combatant knows the other's abilities beforehand.
>So this is DIO? Let's see what he's going to do, my Epitaph!
>...What? His Stand just teleports and I get btfo? What?
>I don't understand it, but I should definitely erase that! Not to mention, DIO himself will not move! King Crimson, skip time!
>*moves to behind DIO, time stop either activates or doesn't but in either case it doesn't hit Diavolo*
At this point, Diavolo probably tries to Donut DIO, in which case he'll lose because he has to destroy the brain in one hit to beat DIO.
But as far as Foresight+Time Erasure vs. Timestop goes, TE hard counters Timestop.
Adam Hernandez
>all the expressions on KC
I can't wait for Whitesnake sperrging out to be animated.
Juan Bell
Switch port when?
Aiden Myers
Pucci won. He just died before he could exploit it.
Matthew Sanders
Stopped time lasts 0 seconds in any case. Even if DIO could stop time for as long as he wanted, Diavolo could win because the timestop would be completely encapsulated within his period of erased time.
Michael Myers
>Pucci
>Lose
user HE FUCKING WON
Noah Ramirez
>talking shit about Giorno
>part 5 gets the best theme in the series second to Jotaro and followed by Joseph youtube.com
>DP wastes most of the final episodes money on Trish's body and Giorno
Fucking memers
That is HIGH DIO after he sucked up Joseph's blood.
Also The World is Universal and it was stated that Diavolo loses badly to it, if Jotaro was in Part 5 he could had Beaten Diavolo.
Logan Stewart
Couldn't he just leave the acceleration on, let all food rot in 5 seconds so that nobody could get fed and make every stand user die from hunger?
He can keep up with Acceleration and eat and survive
Nicholas Turner
It has a cooldown, after he reset the universe once his speed was reset to "just a little fast".
Besides, his goal wasn't to kill everyone, so he couldn't just slice all their heads off and be done with it.
The real mystery is how did he reach the endpoint in the first place, when he surely should've died of old age long before the Universe reset.
Grayson Nelson
By his own admission, the fact that he couldn't kill Emporio and complete the cycle means he loses. All of the things he did were for nothing, because the next world was something he couldn't control, he didn't fulfilled DIO's will.
Parker Jones
This entire theme is so good but the piano gets me every single time
Adam Phillips
Weather Report is a hell of a stand
Hudson Martin
>zoomer's first anime
go back
Eli Cooper
King Crimson is an extremely strong stand though. Stand stats were introduced in Part 5 for reference here. Gold Experience has a Destructive Force of C, and it can smash apart cars. Sticky Fingers has a B and can literally zip anything in half. The stands before King Crimson with an A in Strength are White Album, which is able to turn air to near absolute zero almost immediately, and Purple Haze, a literal touch-of-death stand. But King Crimson earns his A with nothing but his fucking fist. King Crimson and The World have similar feats of strength. Theres no reason to believe The World is substantially stronger.
Bentley Campbell
>Eyes of Heaven is emulatable
>The guy working on porting the PS4 subs to PS3 gave up
Jayden Walker
>first anime
that would be AoT, even normies know about it
Austin Miller
Nah, Josuke's theme is better, but Girono is a close second.
Colton Clark
The point wasn’t killing everyone, he wanted to achieve dio’s dream.
Kayden Perez
Is it fair to say that when Vento Aureo was running while most 18 year olds today were shit shitting their diapers?
Christian Reed
Retard. King Crimson has a limit to the amount of time it can skip. This isn't the wait button in Skyrim.
Liam Brown
>punch ghost with infinite range
Weather Report is retarded, Araki really didn't think about this one
Liam Sanchez
AKSHUALLY it would be the fifth anime
Benjamin Perez
it was a joke user
Xavier Morales
>heard Eyes of Heaven was bad
>it has playable Weather Report
>no updated ASB with better controls and added characters from Eyes of Heaven with their own specials
it'd be nice if Japan would stop obsessing with mobile
Matthew Cooper
>infinite range
>insane ability
>strong in melee combat
Without counting the time cheaters Stands it's the strongest Stand in the entire manga, no doubt
Luis Allen
Even though he is a retard, since he said anime, yeah.
Adam Russell
>>talking shit about Giorno
The nigga is a walking plot device, a fucking deus ex
His sole purpose in life is to show up and fix the problems within his (now dead) gang group, and defeat the big bad.
Giorno is fucking soulless with no personality, his good theme song doesn't make up for that
Isaiah Martinez
He accidentally killed himself. Weather Report began pressurizing the pocket dimension they were in with pure oxygen. Pucci sped up time so he would be fast enough to outmaneuver the stand, but accidentally hypersped his succumbing to oxygen poisoning.
Carson Roberts
Josuke's theme is when you are playing NFS underground games, Giorno and Joseph its when you are Running from the Cops
Oliver Bell
7>4>5>6>2>3>1 ?8?
Nathaniel Perry
BASED. PART5FAGS ETERNALLY BTFO AND GET THE FUCK OUT.
Wyatt White
>Diavolo wouldn't aim for DIO's head
>Diavolo aims for the son of DIO's head
Nathaniel Morgan
>DIO concerned
>not because he can't remember when he killed some chump, he does that all the time
>but because he can't remember killing at all
I'd be amused
Oliver Hill
Because it's limited by the amount of time it can freeze. Just because you can predict the future, it doesn't necessarily mean you're able to alter fate.
Oliver Foster
if KC does it before DIO time stops then KC can void anything the world does, so KC wins. However, Diavolo is a total pussy, so Dio would just punch him to death.
Nicholas Bell
Giorno is completely overshadowed by every other member of his gang and every antagonist in terms of personality. You just want to fuck his hair whorls.
Hudson Morales
That's kinda the point imo, he's set up to be Jojo Jesus, the protagonist is clearly Bucciarati
Isaac Hughes
I'm not referring only to brute strength, that is only about half of this conversation. There is no metric to confirm which of the two is stronger physically other than the fact that both are incredibly strong close range stands. The difference is the stand user; Diavolo is a skinny faggot who looks halfdead most of the time, while Dio is sculpted like a greek statue and more importantly is an immortal fucking vampire with much more experience using stands and observing how they work, in a fight between those two the person with the quicker wits would win and that person is not Diavolo.
Jonathan Perry
I love the fact that Made In Heaven doesn't work on GER in ASB. God, that game is awesome.
David Gutierrez
Just to follow up though I have to use the colored versions
Jackson Garcia
If Star platinum did it KC can do it too, also compare the damage done to Polnareff.
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Isaiah Gutierrez
How accurate is this?
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Easton Turner
King Crimson isn't a special ability in the game like DIO's time stop, it's just moves and shit. Kinda lame but at the same time I don't think there's any realistic way to transition it to video game form, at least in an online multiplayer fighting game.
Adam Evans
Is everyone forgetting that KC's strength, speed, and durability are lower than The World's?
Leo Gomez
Colton Cooper
Only a select few were lifted. Jotaro, Avdol, Iggy (technically), Okuyasu, and Akira. I'll be really sad if they don't use Jolyene or the Part 7 guys
Xavier Richardson
Just finished part 6 today so
4>6(everything prior to Made In Heaven)>2>5>1>Made In Heaven>3.
I loved 6 so much. It felt the most entertaining thoughout besides maybe 2. Until the end came and shit the bed
I'm not even talking the parallel worlds shit, that was whatever. Just the fact that FUCKING EMPORIO was the big hero at the end. Jolyne was a complete jobber and had nothing to do once things escalated. Also here comes fucking Jotaro again to save the day...again.
Christopher Gray
Not really. "Overdrive" sounds more like something out of NFS. "Crazy my Beat" is 1000x better.
Austin Gutierrez
All Star Battle 2 WHEN
Jeremiah Price
Protagonists tier list
1>2>4>3>6>7>8>>>>>Araki shit>>>>>>>Cow shit>>>>>>>>Polpo's smegma>>>>>>>>>> 5
William James
How will the anime handle this?
Dylan Collins
>Giorno fixes everything
Giorno would have been dead if it wasn't for other people bailing his ass out when he fucked up.
>Saved by Bruno and Mista when he got aged up by Proscuitto
>Saved by Mista when his arms froze up by Ghiaccio
>Saved by Narancia when Clash dragged him around during the whole fight
>Saved by Trish when he lost both arms to GER
>Saved by Number 5 when he fell of the heli fighting Cioccolata
The part was good on teamwork, everyone saved each other a lot. Even Abbachio, who only fought twice did so to save the others.
Sebastian Watson
Of course I do.
And then my lungs open up with zippers to let the smoke out.
Andrew Sanchez
Punch ghosts are supposed to be limited by range, that's the thing. Non-punch ghosts have the advantage of having a bigger range on their ability. Weather Report has both.
Joshua Walker
>epitaph predicts Diavolo's head exploding for no reason
>uses KC before the time freeze
>Diavolo moves position
>time stops, stopping Diavolo in time
>but DIO is still fated to do the same actions, stopping time and attacking the position Diavolo was originally in
>therefore, while Diavolo would be stopped in time, he'd still survive since he moved somewhere else
I'm curious as to why Diavolo can't attack people in his erased time though. I wanted to say it would get erased, but blood still drips and people still move in the skipped time so anything that happens in it would still lead to the conclusion after time is skipped. I can only assume it's due to Diavolo being able to move in skipped time, but can't change anyone else's fate in it.
Aiden Clark
Not a single one of those hits would be kill for DIO and most were thanks to catching DIO of guard in timestop. If Diavolo focused to much on trying to stand rush DIO he has more to lose. If this was jotaro Diavolo was fighting I'd say Diavolo had a better chance.
Austin Gray
Never because they threw their hands up and made a Battle Royale sequel using Eyes of Heaven as the base.
Samuel Thomas
same cast for phantom blood and battle tendency. Think a chunk of the cast is the same for stardust crusaders but even by then it was already diverging and while I can't be bothered to check I doubt the vast majority of it stayed the same from Diamond is Unbreakable on. Damn shame since Jolyene and Johnny were 11/10 casting and if they're replaced by the time they finally adapt those into anime it'll be worse off.
Ethan Sullivan
Stand stats are retarded.
Jason Sanchez
there's a new game?
Matthew Brooks
He only did that because he was really desperate and wanted Giorno absolutely definitely dead ASAP. Normally he goes for the donut.
Xavier Sanchez
Best way to describe it is that people and objects move like they're on a fated auto-pilot. Diavolo cannot manipulate or mess with things while they're doing their auto-pilot. He can re-position himself so that he's in a better position after the the skip is over.
Leo King
He interacts with things during the skipped time multiple times though.
Mason Russell
So who would win in a fight between GER and MiH?
Brayden Long
He was born From Dio and Jonathan's ballsack, what did you expect?
The main guy was Always Bruno, Giorno grows because of Him.
Overdrive belongs to Most Wanted and for an extension, Carbon and UG2
Only if Bamco ports it to PC and other platforms, PS4 Exclusivity fucked them.
Pretty much this
Which is limited to japan's arcades only
Bentley Kelly
You seem to misunderstand, I'm referring to how long someone else can act during the stopped time. Diavolo just needs one moment of lucidity to blow all of DIO's actions away while holding on to 99% of his erased time available.
This is quite a load of bullshit. Diavolo and DIO got their stands at around the same. DIO saw a good amount of stands evidenced by his recruiting the tarot cards and speaking about Survivor, but Diavolo lived on far longer and nurtured his own squads of kill stands and enforcement stands. Neither of them are strangers to stand power.
Diavolo is fucking sculpted, not sickly. He's no less built than part 6 artstyle DIO.
Most importantly, DIO is a little bitch when people enter his world of stopped time. He freaked the fuck out over Jotaro's finger twitching and nearly pissed his pants as he went about beheading him. He tried to nope out of physical confrontation all together by resorting to knives and even putting a road roller between him and Jotaro and killing him that way.
Now imagine someone who has the power to both predict DIO's actions and instantly annihilate is time stop.
Easton Murphy
Actually I misremembered about that Eyes of Heaven bit but here: youtu.be
Asher Russell
Pretty sure GER can just nullify MIH's ability
Nathaniel Davis
This is exactly why. Diavolo removes himself from fate and himself only. He can't change what's already planned to happen to anyone else but it's actually pretty cool in a situation like with narancia. He was fated to kill narancia so he didn't need to reveal himself to do. He can just skip the action and arrive at the result that was fated to happen to a person.
Isaac Young
KC never does the rapid punching associated with most punch ghosts in all of his appearances. Instead, he always dispatches foes in one blow. The reason this is noteworthy is that it tells us two things: he possibly lacks the speed of Stands like CR, SP, GE, and The World, and/or that his approach to combat is no-nonsense, preferring to execute goes as soon as possible. Let's keep in mind that GE only has the strength of an average human and most of it's power comes from it's ability and speed. Pre-Requiem, it still have Dia trouble.
Anyway, the better question is MIH vs KC?
Caleb Carter
I like the dumbass known as Okuyasu.
Easton Wright
He doesn't. He only uses his blood but its HIS blood. And narancia death was fated to happen. He never interacted with anything in skipped time outside of himself.
Austin Martin
The better question is what the fuck was Giorno doing during Part 6 if he was in Florida like the rest of Dio's kids?
Jason Collins
GER's ability is literally to nullify anything. It's completely unbeatable.
Lucas Ward
He can nullify his attacks and the acceleration on himself and GER, but he can't nullify the universe being accelerated
Brody Sanders
Disney World with Mista and Trish
Robert Moore
Fair enough on the second point, it is entirely possible that Dio would react even worse to KC than he did to Jotaro since KC isn't something he can even calculate for.
Noah Roberts
Nathaniel Phillips
Abilities > stats but both are taken in consideration for death battles
Austin Mitchell
If ASB is any indication, Giorno is not affected by the fast-forwarding and even infinite speed will end up in an indeterminate result when attacking Giorno. But I think it's theoretically possible to stall GER perpetually by continually rebooting the universe until you get lucky and Giorno takes a wrong step and ends up in orbit like Kars. The result would be a stalemate at best.
Noah Butler
High contract buying old peoples condos or something i dunno, im no Gangstar
Benjamin White
MiH would destroy kC. MiH shortened " Timestop" erased time is still time so 10 seconds of erased time during MiH would be a blink making both epitaph and KC useless.
Cameron Edwards
King Crimson's Speed and Strength are identical by stats to The World, and we're talking Part 5 As, when they were introduced, not retroactive Part 3 As. So we know by certainty that his Speed and Strength are top-tier for short range stands. King Crimson has an E in range, but in Part 5 this meant 2 meters, the same as Star Platinum's range which is called a C.
The actual difference between The World and King Crimson is their durability; The World has an A, and King Crimson has an E. Though King Crimson should never be in a position to take a direct hit by how busted his power is.
Charles Watson
He cut off Trish's hand and jumped with her out of the elevator during the skipped time.
David Robinson
Diavolo loses for one simple reason:
He loves to donut people. It doesn't matter which way the battle goes, because as soon as Diavolo gets the upper hand, he will go for DIO's torso, turn his back on him like a badass and walk away. If he had gone for the head then he would win, but he doesn't.
And then DIO just rips him in two.
Elijah Brooks
Thr dolphin that Emporio rides was sent by Giorno
Jeremiah Collins
god part 4 was so fucking comfy
Chase Williams
>DIO is a little bitch
No, he's intelligent, but also too proud for his own good, and is also cautious of what Jonathan's descendants can do. If you thought you were on top and thought someone else could do what you could, your pride would break a little, and since it's Jonathan's great great grandson, he's especially wary and respectful of what he can do? Why use knives? Because he's not a fucking retard. People have stands now, he actually has to be wary of walking at people, since instead of fighting weak humans, he actually has to watch out for punch ghosts slamming a fist in his head with the force of a moving train. So throwing knives in all directions was a smart way of testing if he could move in stopped time
Tyler Long
>his super is literally that one part where he gets tricked into smashing himself with the plant
>they even make him lose a little hp for it in the game
Tyler Davis
I don't think any time-based stand power can beat MiH.
Ian James
Jorge's novel states that he survived the reboot along with Kars
Christopher Edwards
7>2>5>4>3>1>6
Ryan Richardson
7>4>6>2>5>3>1
I'll rate 8 when it's done
Jeremiah Hughes
>Jorge's novel
why must you remind me that exists
Lucas Barnes
36
David Lopez
It was fated to happen. He didn't need to do a thing if he was gonna do it anyway. The deal with KC is that it changes Diavolo's fate but not others.
Nathan Barnes
>Legendary Johnny and Gappy that low
>Female Jotaro with 0% of his entertaining qualities above anyone
>Gio at the bottom
Here's my Anonymous tier list
Regular anons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shills and shitposters>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people who browse /trash/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(You)
Jason Moore
>finished part 6
>was meh
What's so good about part 7?
Kayden Moore
>Kars
>has the opportunity to get a stand
Don't let that nigga get the stone or we're fucking screwed
Grayson Lee
Diavolo uses Epitaph to predict the time stop mulching him and uses KC to dodge it and use his own attack. He goes for a donut, but Dio survives because hes a vampire and since the time stop was completely skipped Dio just puts up another time stop and beats Diavolo in for real.
Luke Parker
>Jolyne was a jobber
Are you a speedreader? She completely shat on C-Moon's whole ability, and when everyone else including fucking Jotaro got owned, she alone formulated the one glaring weakness of Made in Heaven. Could Araki have written it that she drowns him instead or something? I guess, but the damage done to the Earth and general entropy was already irreparable by the time Emporio was tied to the dolphin. Would you like Jolyne and Emporio to alone swim back to shore in a world where all food stores and shit have dusted?
Cooper Rogers
Depends, how much time can he skip? Thanks to his clairvoyance he can predict when Dio will use The World.
Julian Jones
Pucci is the most kino antagonist.
Landon Sanchez
P7 is the first time JoJo takes itself REALLY seriously. Actual well-written drama and character development. Godlike protag and antag.
Adrian Ward
If that's the case, Giorno is the one fated to beat Diavolo, not his father.
Chase Morales
>Two fucking Kiras
youtu.be
ASB with some extra work would've been something with all those details
Carter Ward
I dunno man, it's my favourite, but what can I say outside of, well, I enjoy the journey the two main characters go through
Nicholas Ward
How's Jojolion progressing?
Last arc I read was the end of Aphex Twins.
Have they revealed the true villain yet?
Owen Ortiz
I still don't get this scene. Johnny looks pissed off. Does he actually like or is Gyro blind?
Jaxon Davis
If Diavolo fought Ringo Roadagain, wouldn't he skip time only to find himself back in the loop?
Listen to My Rhythm vs Killer Queen?
Luis Reed
being voiced by FUCKING ONIZUKA helped it a lot
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Luis Evans
Vento Aureo has a boring MC with no personality
Nathan James
Pretty sure it's the mom.
Gabriel Parker
GOD ASB WAS SO FUCKING KINO
WHY WON'T THEY MAKE A SEQUEL ALREADY
Ryder Taylor
>Eyes of Heaven has cut dialogue for part 6 Jotaro.
3 Jotaros!
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Christopher Campbell
Gyro sarcastically says he likes Gyro's shit humor throughout the entire arc, but Gyro never realizes it's sarcasm and takes his praise seriously
It's a running gag throughout the whole thing
Jackson Gonzalez
Based
Aiden Hughes
its on the "calm before Another one bites the dust" aka shit is about to get criminal and end.
Aaron Evans
John Martinez
and then Johnny misses Gyro when he dies
Carter Lee
In canon you are correct. Fate is a very real thing that only the most bullshit powers go against. MiH, KC, and GER off the top of my head are all stands that directly affect it in some way.
Jace Walker
Even if he did go for the donut, it doesn't mean Diavolo loses. Bruno tried to kill Diavolo immediately after getting donuted and Diavolo just erased time because, you know, he can do that.
Jeremiah Taylor
Julian Sanchez
Michael Lee
Here is something everyone is forgetting. DIO IS A FUCKING VAMPIRE. Ok let's give KC every single advantage, let's say not only can he use epitath to move in the stopped time not only can he can decide if he can effect things in the skipped time lets also just give him invincibility in the skipped time and lets say all of that ALL OF THAT amounts to diavalo punching out dio's heart because that is his go to attack. Diavolo would think he won, let his guard down and have no need to check epitath and EVEN IF HE DID it would be Dio teleporting right to him and killing him before he has a chance to recharge KC.
Carter Baker
I don't know user, Jotaro beat DIO with raw strength but the point is i also think DIO can beat Diavolo, the thing is that he is a douchebag and will eventually lower his guard. DIO could chop the head of Diavolo like he did to Vanilla ice and it's all over for him.
Christopher Jones
DIO just needs to stop time before Diavolo erases time again and Diavolos dead.
Oliver Price
Also this gem
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Jace Cox
DIO actually had a continually increasing cap on time stop because he was a vampire. He wasn't under the same physical limitations a normal human was, so his time stop was increasing in duration. It wasn't about having a lower cooldown. However, he also wasn't affected by the stamina drain that Jotaro felt using it as a human because vampires have seemingly infinite stamina.
Oliver Campbell
>a single point in time
It's a single point outside of time.
Dominic Lopez
Gold Experience has a C in Destructive Power and it can break cars and drive a spike through the White Album armor. Sticky Fingers has a B in Destruction and can literally just zip anything into pieces. King Crimson has an A in Destructive Power from the merits of his own two fists. And remember Stand Stats were introduced in Vento Aureo so these actually mean something.
King Crimson also has an A in Speed.
Dylan Rogers
Juan Hill
why did Araki make GER so fucking busted? Was there any other way he could've defeated Diavolo without resorting to obtaining a OHKO powerup?
Christian Miller
Except DIO can punch him during stopped time, which Diavolo won't see because it's not happening within time, and then move away before time resumes. DIO was able to stop time for 11 seconds before he died, so assuming it's Diavolo against DIO at that point, then DIO can easily attack him and move away in that period.
Aiden Morgan
>playing Pucci and bothering to MiH in a non-time game
Brandon Gutierrez
>Giorno makes scorpion that attacks Diavolo
>Diavolo squashes it.
>damage reflects to Diavolo killing him.
Yes if Araki didn't forget.
Lincoln Flores
Rule of cool
Aiden Rivera
>Turn his head like a badass
Right, that's why Diavolo turned around and walked away like a badass after he donuted Bucellati. He didn't immediately erase time at the first moment of any life left in the guy. Except he did do that, huh?
Against Abbacchio he wasn't even savoring in triumph, he cut him in passing because he was blending in with the kids; he also knew Abbacchio doesnt have a dangerous stand.
And what did he do against Giorno, the guy who seemingly had been pierced by the arrow, even were he rejected? The guy he wanted super fucking gone forever? Right, he punched him through the head.
Brayden Howard
everyone will atleast until we get to gay priest.
Ayden Moore
>which Diavolo won't see because it's not happening within time,
Why wouldn't he see it? He'd see time happening, then the effects of Dio stopping time, then he'd just skip that period. He doesn't need to see what happens inside the stopped time to avoid what occurs within.
Jose Brooks
holy fuck I forgot about that too
Juan Watson
There aren't really any hard set rules on how a Stand can manifest. More guidelines than anything. Wes just got really lucky and got the most OP non-time Stand.
Nicholas Miller
Pretty sure Giorno is the only one to make it through the time skip intact.
Hunter Rivera
Dio wins because by the time he’s consumed Joseph’s blood he’s neigh unstoppable to mortals. Jotaro won against him because he’s a master bluffer, had the same power except a little stronger physically, and may have unconsciously channeled ripple enough to give SP that little bit of necessary killing power. Dio vs Diavolo would probably be a long winded speech by Dio about how he’s the world’s true king followed by a failed attempt at his life from Diavolo at his life and then Diavolo not being able to get away with CC’s fast forwards quick enough.
Jaxson Gutierrez
All you really have to do to beat the boss is ambush him with like 5 different stand users while he's in Doppio mode.
Charles Morgan
GER nullifies MiH so he should be alright, if not confused
Cooper Bennett
I believe it
Gabriel Perry
DIDNEY WORLD
Landon Miller
You boys ready for this to be animated?
Jose Cox
Yeah the hype will be real
Noah Brown
Just a few more weeks.
At least DP gave us a preview.
Oliver Sanders
>punch ghost are limited range
Let me tell you about Whitesnake
>Long Range
>punch ghost that can fight a short-range full power punch ghost
>create illusion via acidic mist
>steal stands and memory
>remove a certain sense
>make living people play actually discs
>can gives others stands and more than one stand at that.
>sentient stand that can talk back to Pucci.
Gabriel Howard
Actually now that I think about it Diavolo could possibly win if he could take time from Dio when he doesn’t notice to trap him in daylight. He’d have to know Dio was a vampire and not be obvious though. His stamina might not be enough to do that though.
Eli Cruz
DAFUQ IS DIS?
Elijah Johnson
Levi Perez
Having Diavolo stabbing himself and erasing GER with King Crimson Requiem was bullshit but at least we got to see DIO and The World Requiem
Austin Miller
IF IT AIN'T MICKEY THIS SHIT AIN'T DISNEY
Brody Young
I thought he was supposed to be on the medium, sorta weak power level? Like he wouldnt be able to fight Jolyne/Jotaro face to face because Stone Ocean/Star Platinum would completely annihilate him, even without time stop.
Sebastian Edwards
Yeah but DIO calling GioGio a faggot was uncalled for.
Wyatt Roberts
White Snake has the strength to easily one-shot people. It's not quite as strong as Stone Free or Star Platinum, but his other powers make up for it. A straight fist fight is a bad idea though.
Nicholas Adams
>use Epitaph
Epitaph is passive
No matter how long Dio stops time for, Diavolo is forewarned by whatever Dio does during the timeskip. He'll just suddenly see his head getting blown off, The World punching through him, Road Roller, knives, whatever. It doesn't matter what Dio does in his stopped time because Epitaph sees it all instantly before it happens. The only thing Dio can do to counter it is use his timestop in a way that doesn't alert Epitaph to anything and then strike as a reaction after KC triggers. Didn't work out for Polnareff, and he KNEW what KC's ability was.
Landon Brown
I still can't believe Diavolo survived GER's stand rush and managed to pierce himself with the arrow. What the fuck was Araki thinking?
Kayden Hall
Controversial opinion: They're all good
Jaxon Price
I like how everyone ignored the question being about what happens in ASB and not what would happen in a hypothetical fight between them in the manga/anime.
Also, this is what would happen in the latter.
Robert Allen
Are we going to see C-Moon inverting people's flesh animated? That was pretty gross when I first read it.
Connor Wright
He's not as strong but unlike most punch-ghost all it takes is one touch even to grab the stand disc and the fight is over.
Aiden Nelson
Without the sun how could Diavalo even kill DIO? Keep in mind that DIO survived an ORA rush from a pissed off Star Platinum
>he needed to suck josephs blood right after
The fact that DIO wasnt completely obliterated shows how durable he is
Carson Lewis
I still love the fact Kenshiro and Raoh get placed into the world of JJBA for just a moment and still fist fight in modern Japan.
Asher Young
Too be fair, he did have to come out of hiding just to save his jobber son. Besides, despite the insult you can tell that on some level DIO's still proud of his son for getting this far
Daniel Parker
Surprised this hasn't been posted
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Samuel Butler
WHY WASN'T THE ED CHAGED TO HAVE GER
Matthew Lee
>we never got to see a short kino fight between jotaro and kenshiro
Connor Morales
even when he was defeated by Jotaro he technically wasn't dead yet until the sub got him. People forget how durable vampires are. I think even Araki forget seeing as how Dio was cut in half in part 1 and didn't even care.
John Williams
Just destroy his head.
Joseph Brooks
DIO wins, ive tried both with skip time and his super but both get overrided by stop time
Logan Phillips
>retire
He’s in the prime of his youth. Just look at that face
Caleb Sanders
>DIO somehow transferred his soul into his blown off leg and survived
Why do people keep saying Araki isn't a hack?
Thomas Barnes
DIO's biggest weakness besides the Sun is his Stand's own durability. Injuring The World hurts DIO far more than hitting DIO himself.
Lucas Garcia
they are most likely saving it for the last 2 episodes alongside the intro.
Joshua Gomez
>Monarch Red doesn't count time stop
Diavolo skips the whole thing, still might lose because Dio and vampire powers. Dio is at a disadvantage and has to avoid a headshot.
>pause time counts as skip time
Diavolo and Dio now have to dance around faking with time skip. If Diavolo skips too early he's dead, if Dio is too late he takes a heavy shot. Dio is at an advantage.
Bentley Anderson
EVERYTIME I CLOSE MY EYES
Jonathan Parker
We got an almost untouched KC Vs. Metallica, I'd say almost anything goes at this point
James Smith
man Bohemian Rhapsody is gonna be a shitshow when they get to that fight.
Austin Perry
KC can predict stoping time.
Cameron Garcia
>tfw part 9 is eyes over heaven done right, and ends with Josuke using Crazy Diamond Requiem to repair the timelines.
Josuke’s story ends with him pushing the car in the snowstorm
Julian Ward
What is this pose suppose to convey?
Jordan Ward
Fugo was a bitch, his stand would've been valuable for helping take down diavolo, it's literally poison
Dominic Perez
I know you're joking but isn't Over Heaven, for all intents and purposes, The World Requiem?
Noah Adams
Snails
Gabriel Roberts
Dominance.
Oliver Parker
>implying I'll ever die
James Parker
For me, it's Harvest.
Brayden Perez
That'd be kino as fuck.
Ian Cruz
>*WHIIIIIR*
>NOOOOO BOSSSU HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE
Grayson Wilson
Heaven stands seem a lot more op than requiem in function so far.
William Reyes
not really, Over heaver was the evolution of The World After that DIO absorbed the blood of all joestars in his timeline
Brody Hall
Over Heaven is more like a Heavens Door Requiem.
Ryder Nguyen
What the other user said. The World isn't a vampire, it can't regenerate any damage done to it, and any damage done to it, is done to Dio. So he's effectively just projecting a weak point. Honestly, Dio shouldn't even summon his stand against average stands, his vampiric power and speed would be enough to deal with most.
Asher Gonzalez
>spoiler
Would honestly sour part 4 retroactively for me. Thematically, it makes more sense for the one to save Josuke to be an anonymous stranger who decided to save him because of the spirit of Morioh.
Josiah Roberts
Based.
Harvest, Hey Ya and Crazy Diamond are the most practical stands for a regular life
Robert Collins
Feedback Movie when
Cameron Jones
Jeremiah Lee
Fans did it, look up "Death Battle."
Camden Parker
DIdn't Rohan survive it in that one book?
Adam Harris
Hudson Miller
Pretty much. DIO's just too high and mighty to attack people with his own hands and instead stands back and lets The World do his dirty work.
Blake Davis
Wasn't TWoH just what would happen of he went through the process of Heaven with Pucci instead of dying?
Joseph Collins
Is there any stand that could possibly defeat Hey Ya?
Jaxon Nelson
>diavolo enters the skipped time
>just sees dio instantly zip like ten feet in front of him and monologuing about some shit before walking away
>in the stopped time inside the skipped time dio MUDAMUDAMUDA's Diavolo obviously
>skipped time resumes and diavolo fucking dies because he wasn't able to stop DIO in the stopped time and didn't know what to do
if we're being generous then Diavolo tries to stop him anyway in the skipped time, but because of the cooldown both stands have to deal with DIO comes out on top anyway since he can probably take whatever Diavolo throws at him (doubt he'd think to go for a full-on head wipe) and return fire.
Liam Wood
>Rereading the end of Steel Ball Run
>Still get as emotional as the first time I read it
Part 7 was really amazing. The anime will probably be QUALITY when we get there in 5 or so years, but I hope they can deliver on the moments that need to be perfect.
Christopher Cox
This.
I like this too.
Honestly though I do wish Araki would confirm at least one of two things: Where was Giorno (as well as Mista and Trish) during the battles against Dio's sons and eventually Made in Heaven, and, where did Giorno wind up afterwards? Part of me desires these details, but the other part is content with it being ambiguous, the latter especially. On a side note, does JoJolion have its major antagonist yet. Does it happen to be Jobin or Kaato.
Luke Phillips
Charles Sullivan
Yeah, he was just so autisticlly obsessed with his manga that he rode it out.
Anthony White
I don't remember this panel.
Anthony Green
The Death battle was pretty shit honestly, and not even because Jotaro lost (because honestly most if not all Jojo characters get BTFO by Kenshiro) but mostly because they did shitty research
Grayson Williams
This would be so fucking cool.
Brayden Brooks
Time erasure itself seems weaker than time stop however erasure plus epitaph combined basically hard counters DIO just as hard as GER would.
Lucas Hernandez
Technically Giorno's existence in the new timeline should be erased because of no Dio, but he also has GER so who the fuck knows.
Jackson James
I hope so
Jonathan Sanchez
>The World isn't a vampire, it can't regenerate any damage done to it,
Except it literally does this twice n his fight with Jotaro. SP donuted The world and it didnt have a hole in its stomach throughout the fight. SP also broke The Worlds fist after DIOs power up and it clearly regenerated
Connor Wood
Christian Ross
It’s Kars
Juan Nelson
>Dude The World doesn't actually stop time and King Crimson doesnt actually erase time even though their canon stated abilities are to stop time and erase time respectively
Robert Campbell
I can't believe Tonio's brother is a criminal
Gavin Perez
BIG
YOTE!
Nolan Campbell
That’d be cool since Josuke kindof gets his win stolen in part 4.
Joseph Cruz
Adrian Turner
What would KC Requiem even do?
Eli Campbell
Araki's wifes interview was so fun to read
David Diaz
>Stand stats introduced in AV
No, dumbass. They were in 3 as well. Stats have always been retarded anyway
Sebastian Reyes
Truly the most fearsome stand, bested only by Truck-kun.
Jose Reyes
Something unrelated to its original power like the rest, right? It could be completely random
Zachary Miller
The true spirit of Morioh.
Aaron Young
Because while I heard about Jojo, I never actually bothered to watch it until like last year. I finally got caught up for the final 2 episodes, and since I don't wanna spoil anything, I gonna finish the Part 5's anime then go through the entire manga
Samuel Hernandez
>Araki
>Wife
Wait what?
Levi Foster
Grey fox is my favorite jobro
Mason Perry
I always kind of assumed Requiem gave the user something they desired so it'd just yeet Diavolo out of existence. Whether it be the hollow victory of simply never having him around anymore or the bittersweet of him never existing to begin with isn't certain.
James Cook
Turn people’s hair into bottle caps.
Joseph Anderson
>yeet
Is this common lingo now?
Michael Ward
Oh I forgot to mention Fugo in my last post lol. It's kinda retarded that I never read Purple Haze Feedback at this point, considering it's more of Part V, and V is my favourite.
Oh huh, I never really thought about it. Even though they're both non-canon, I guess the closest we can get to answer concerning Giorno/GER and Made in Heaven is ASB and Jorge Joestar, which I suppose is enough for me.
Based Aztec God of Fitness.
Bentley Price
Araki is a married man user, what did you think?
Blake Clark
Well, I guess it would be at least somewhat based on what Diavolo wanted most of all when he was trying to get the arrow. Wanting to dominate, become king, erase his past and be truly invincible.
What if it deleted him from existence and everyone's memories, but in truly bizarre fashion he could still act on the world as if he did exist?
Benjamin Price
I think it literally triggers the "evolution" of a stand,, and gives it a new power in order to fit some niche or solve a certain problem
Xavier Bailey
Is it true that Araki dropped Fugo because Purple Haze was too op?
Oliver Rogers
No
Angel Anderson
I think that KC Requiem would allow Diavolo to Slaughterhouse V himself, and especially view and edit his entire life from beginning to end, maybe even removing his very existence from all time, so he basically exists as this unassailable force from out of space and time, taking over the world from the shadows
Elijah Miller
Dio and Jotaro do not stop time for an actual amount of time. According to Dio, it feels like 5 seconds, but it all happens in an instant to people who are not able to move in that environment. Stopping time is exactly that. It stops time. Therefore, on a timeline, everything that occurs during the stopped time happens on a single point in the timeline. Diavolo would easily be able to skip past Dio's ability as he uses Epitaph frequently, but unless he knew Dio is a vampire or destroys The World, he would not be able to kill Dio.
Eli Butler
IIRC originally planned to have Fugo come in towards the end and try to kill the team, but ultimately decided it was too depressing.
Hudson Jenkins
You forgot the Feng Shui Stand. That one is also nearly broken since it's gimmick is fate
Caleb Torres
I heard its because he was originally was going to be a traitor, but Araki didn't want to follow through with killing him in a horrible matter for backstabbing the gang (he got replaced with Green Day with similar powers who got a 7-page MUDA). Also Araki was depressed when making part 5
Oliver Baker
t. Bandwagoner
Joseph Adams
It was because Fugo was going to be a traitor, but Araki was sad at the time so he couldn’t go through with it.
Jose Smith
Some joestar teenage
Carson Anderson
You get out, sheep
Nicholas Cooper
Problem is would Diavolo really understand what the fuck Dio did to cause everything to happen in that instant?
Carson Hill
He would probably just see a blurry mess of Dio and The World's movements, and just position himself away from that area. Neither of them would have a good chance of figuring out the others ability, but Diavolo has the advantage in that, because his would be able to skip past his opponents ability, while Dio would probably wonder why Diavolo seems to be teleporting around.
Andrew Bennett
Hows is this? Recently downloaded it, but don't wanna try it out until after P5 ends.
Parker Perez
King Crimson's faces are the best part of this season.
Eli Smith
Anime-Only faggot talking out of his ass detected
Part 3 and 4 stand stats were retroactively given in later collector material.
Hudson Ramirez
>We're never going to get a Yakuza type game based on part 4
>instead we're going to keep getting trash fighting games and a fucking battle royale
Juan Reed
Fucking fantastic when it comes to fanservice
Other than that a pretty shit boss rush style game, Man in the Mirror is fucking hell
Isaac Gray
>until after P5 ends.
you mean 20 years ago.
Landon King
>Jojo will never get the Ninja Storm treatment
How hasn't any game company not capitalize on the series yet with its new surge of popularity? It's been 4 years since the last console Jojo game.
Aiden Perez
Best shot Dio's got is being a vampire and catching Diavolo off guard when he goes for the kill, assuming Epitaph doesn't see Dio shrugging off whatever hits him.
Cameron Smith
In a battle of attrition Dio would absolutely win unless Diavolo knows he is a vampire. The only way Diavolo would win is if he knew or somehow figures out Dio is a vampire or could break The World like Jotaro did.
Bentley Bell
You think we will ever get a hard rated M Jojo game?
Eli Cook
No
Oliver Morales
>Only ever gets one actual fight
>Actually uses his stand cleverly for once
>Jobs because O MY POWER LINES
I will never not be mad
Chase Morris
boingo is like doppio, he can only see future. but boingo sees infinitely far into the future, he would just probably see his own grave.
Zachary Scott
What would you consider good anime?
Christopher Johnson
Not saying it's relevant here, but DIO's ending in HFTF has him defeat and presumably drink the blood of Jotaro. After he does this he's shown to gain immense control of his timestop to the point that he's fully secured control over the entire planet before the sun even rises again.
Caleb Gutierrez
Yeah part 5 is carried mostly by Bruno and the henchmen. All of other the big players were whack.
Nathan Cook
What did Oingo even do again? Was he just along for the ride to help fufill Boingo's premonitions?
Andrew Perez
>First experience with Jojo was this the arcade game
>looks tame like other Capcom fighters
>Watch the OVA and it starts with a girl getting sacrificed and a dude getting his head ripped the fuck off
I wasn't prepared for that.
Dylan Cox
The way it happened was stupid too, his stand should have closed the holes in the ground like it closes space.
Joseph Parker
What compels Araki to draw this kind of shit?
Alexander Cox
Dio's World was done better in the OVA
Ayden Thompson
Pretty sure that's the general consensus there, boss
Michael Peterson
2>4>5>3>1
Christopher Bailey
>expect Gio to outsmart Diavolo in the final battle
>instead lol dues ex machina
I seriously thought they were foreshadowing Gio bringing a dead body back to life as his clone to trick Diavolo, but nope lol arrow. They could've easily made Gio kick Diavolo's ass and then someone let the arrow prick both of them so he could do it again at God level. It just felt like a blue ball letting him go OP with zero pushback or weaknesses
Jeremiah Young
Why the fuck didn’t Polnareff call and hit up Jotaro about Diavolo?
Easton Adams
Fist of the North Star probably but applying the gore into all sorts of situations
Jaxson Green
He's a nigga
Jason Peterson
>inb4 "Muh victory lap!"
It was an absolute asspull but there is no way without getting the drop on him Giorno and friends would have been able to defeat him, Araki just made his stand too powerful and needed to do something at the end, he obviously didn't think ahead
Eli Ramirez
I’ll be honest, I feel like Bruno overrated. I kept hearing how he’s the best part about part 5 and he’s the true protagonist, but I honestly didn’t find him all that interesting. I’m not trying to say that he wasn’t cool or that he’s a bad character but he didn’t really live(heh) up to the hype
Jonathan Edwards
>Stand stats were introduced in Part 5 for reference here.
stand stats have been a thing since part 3, and are notoriously bullshit
Jackson Ward
Araki felt Jotaro was too strong which is why he weakened him over the years and finally killed him with BoiPucci.
I really feel like the ending of VA was changed at the last second due to editors.
Blake Clark
Benjamin Miller
Stopped time is outside time, and cannot be skipped because it doesn't exist in normal causality. King Crimson isn't affecting time, it's affecting the typical cause and effect relationship of events.
If an event could not logically be prevented with the tools and time available, there is no way for Diavolo to avoid it, outside of typical Araki asspulls.
Aaron Bennett
>it's a /pol/ dumps their shitty meme anime on the wrong board episode
Jojo, alt-right and virginity all go together in the same incel spammers
Nolan Howard
>stand stats have been a thing since part 3, and are notoriously bullshit
Wrong. They were first introduced in Part 5 and eventually Araki made an artbook with parts 3 and 4 stands stats
Mason Mitchell
How would you want your next Jojo game to be?
Chase Stewart
Jolyne sex simulator.
Asher Sullivan
how did not die from that?
Hunter Sanchez
HFTF 2 by anyone besides ArcSys and ArcSys sympathizers because I want good walkspeeds
Christian Campbell
I think it's because that compared to Giorno, Bruno is a much more down to earth and vulnerable character while also being the main force driving the gang (and the plot) forward. He also just gets alot of screen time, one of the coolest stands in the series, and some great fights. Overall the part just seems to center more on him with Giorno being more of a plot device than an actual character
Ryder Mitchell
>Dio because he's stronger
Gavin Perez
Eh, I guess but I still don’t really see it
Gavin Sullivan
>O MY POWER
Where was this from.
Asher Cooper
Why does Jotaro look younger the older he gets?
Jordan Ortiz
hunter x hunter meme
Brayden Reyes
Hapa genes.
Lincoln Morgan
Can KC cannot "skip" time which has been stopped, since it isn't time, it's movements and Dio's existence in another world which is not bound by the time that Crimson is in charge of.
David Gutierrez
Jordan Gray
today I will remind them
Ryan Collins
What the fuck did I just watch
Lucas Young
The OVA is generally lackluster but it does a few things (that obviously but also especially the D'Arby "fight") really, really goddamn well.
James Allen
KABUTOMUSHI
James Wilson
hair.webm
Brody Martinez
Josuke and Jolyne looks good in the new artstyle
Jayden Moore
>Newfag outing himself
Austin Martinez
New sequence that makes the last episode of part 5 an hour, Father Son Muda Muda Rush, I think Dio is just a spirit like Goku in the Family Kamehameha
Carson Bennett
The 10 seconds of time stop happen in an instant that is inside of the 10 seconds Epitath shows.
Diavolo would just see himself getting his chest punched open for no reason. And thus he would skip it.
All that crap you said is literal nonsense.
Luke Moore
is this some meme you're pushing to trick anime-onlys? Dio is clearly cropped from stardust crusaders screenshots and the dude who made it has his watermarks all over it.
Hudson Robinson
People still argue over who the main villian is
its obviously the fuckin' beetle guy.
Hunter Campbell
Truth is nobody fucking knows. These abilities never went against in any official media so all we have are headcanons on how they may interact. I’d someone needs to ask Araki which beats which, but know him, he probably forgot how King Crimson works
Christian Nelson
What's Yea Forums's favorite artstyle?
Jose Ward
Jokes usually have logic and a punchline.
Levi Johnson
Both DIO's Time Stop and Diavolo's Time Skip are move focused. Dio's is a combo ender and Diavolo's is a counter.
King Crimson is still stronger than The World due to it's overwhelming bullshit.
The World and DIO get beaten by a character that has a weaker ability, King Crimson and Diavolo literally had to be beaten by having something stronger come along and overwhelm them completely.
Aiden Cox
>Abilities pop at some time
>DIO confused
>Gets donuted by Diavolo
>Diavolo shocked when DIO gets back up almost unphased
>Diavolo deletes times again to deal a more decisive blow
>DIO notices the timeskip this time due to more of his blood appearing on the floor in an instant
>Pops timeskip
If Pol-Pol can figure out a King Crimson counter within one instance then DIO is sure to as well. Unless confusing shit happens where Diavolo breaks his own rules, then he can't use timeskip to make an attack and is vulnerable right after using it.
You could argue "Muh Epitaph" but if Polnareff of all people can get a hit in then it isn't the be all end all of defensive techniques.
Christian Gonzalez
>PB
Mid
>BT
Late
>SC
Late
>DiU
Mid
>VA
Late
>SO
Mid
>SBR
Mid
Oliver Perry
The jorge joestar novel actually has a fight between them. GER didnt even have to use the nulify, its so fast it just slapped pucci while he was flying around
Dominic Roberts
I don't think Epitaph would show him what causes a hole in his chest, so he wouldn't know what to skip.
Owen Barnes
Late Part 3 was Araki's peak
Landon Carter
Mid part 4 for sure.
Caleb Myers
Lol Kars gets a bunch of stands in the novel
Jordan Richardson
One of my favourite arcs, i couldnt stop laughing the entire time. Even the kinda asspully ending was cool, but i wish it went on a bit longer and had more happen in it
Jaxson Baker
He wouldn't have to know. He'd just skip the whole 10 seconds.
Cameron Phillips
36
KARS
ON
MARS
Brandon Sullivan
DIO wins. Stopping Time >>> Skipping Time.
You have it totally backwards. Time Stop is a hard counter to Time Skip. No matter how much you skip around, when time stops you can't do anything about it.
Whether you think about KC as skipping time or erasing time or evading fate, there is no indication in the slightest that it would be more powerful than The World in terms of metaphysical time control. King Crimson in practice is like a shittier version of The World with the ability to see the future tacked on to it. It's just making people act as they were already going to for 10 seconds while you can move however you want, stand powers and events and what have you can and do still happen in the supposedly "erased" time.
The metaphysical effects of the two stand powers could interact in one of two ways: Time Stop counts against Diavolo's skipped time total, or, events which happen in the stopped time are not within Diavolo's power to skip.
In the first scenario, Diavolo would be doomed to experience whatever grisly fate he had predicted for himself because his time skip is cancelled early. Diavolo can choose to erase less time than his foreseen 10 seconds, but he cannot erase more. In the second scenario DIO would encroach upon Diavolo's world of erased time with his own World of stopped time, meaning that if he managed to donut Diavolo within the stopped time then King Crimson wouldn't be able to do shit about it. Why would he be able to cancel things that he can't see or predict that don't even happen within the flow of time in the first place?
Julian Moore
I don't think he can skip past the 10 seconds since to him they don't exist.
Kayden Barnes
No, it's clearly all of Part 7.
Adam Adams
Probably something to do with his desire for no one to know his identity, like erasing all memory of himself.
Connor Roberts
7>=1>6>5>2>3>4
Michael Diaz
Liam Cruz
>No matter how much you skip around, when time stops you can't do anything about it.
But he can just skip the stopped time.
Asher Watson
mid part 4
late part 5-early part 6 was also pretty solid
Wyatt Moore
>Time Stop is a hard counter to Time Skip
No it isn't, it is literally still part of skipped time. Time frozen in a moment is still time skipped that is part of everything King Crimson skips in general, the broader sum super cedes the nothing because it quite literally is nothing to it's power theoretically.
Unless Time Stop is used at the end of the skipped time from King Crimson's effect, DIO cannot do shit to stop Diavolo. And adding to that Diavolo can also see short term future to determine when to activate King Crimson's central power.
You have to understand DIO Vs Diavolo threads have been a thing for nearly twenty fucking years. The fight always comes down to who sets off their ability first for many many people who have debated, but Diavolo realistically has the advantage. (and that is only because of how bullshit King Crimson actually is)
Luis Jones
I always liked the concept behind Eyes Of Heaven and I think the idea for the story even came from Araki, but they said it was too ambitious and had to leave things out because it was a fighting game so I do think that'd be a solid conclusion to the manga, wrapping everything up.
Even if it isn't canon the story is basically fanservice that gives most characters a happy ending, because Araki couldn't do that in the main story, as a fully fleshed out story in the manga it could be kino.
Adam Brown
MiH power doesn't have any effect on people though. It effects literally everything except sentient creatures. Supposing that GER can only cancel out actions taken against Giorno then Pucci would be fine.
Nolan Barnes
Is it Made in Heaven or Stairway to Heaven?
Asher Carter
How? Time is stopped, he can't move during the stopped time. The only real practical effect of King Crimson is that he can move while other people are stuck doing their fated actions. His power directly affects fate/causality and is inherently limited by the flow of time.
The World exists entirely outside the flow of time and consequently outside the bounds of causality. There is no reason King Crimson should take metaphysical precedence over The World. When The World stops time and DIO takes action, he is no longer within the time that is being skipped, he is in his own World outside of the boundaries of Diavolo's power.
The Stopped Time isn't a moment. The events from DIO's World do not happen in any moment at all. The World transcends time and causality in general.
King Crimson is only bullshit if you're an idiot and have internalized Duwang nonsense translations to the nth degree. You are literally reading into the extent of Diavolo's power and carrying loads of unstated baggage about what it actually means for him to "skip" a period of time. You're barely one step above the people who pretend that his ability to "erase" time makes that time literally stop existing when it comes to intellectual honesty.
Brayden King
It was Stairway to Heaven, but changed to Made in Heaven.
Not sure why. Some people say the lyrics fit better.
Connor Allen
Epitath can see the time stop coming.
It then skips over it before Dio activates it.
It's that simple.
Ian Peterson
It was Stairway at one point
I'm not sure if the change to Made is just Araki being Araki or if the music lawyers finally got a small bite into the Japanese version as well.
Luis Bailey
He can see something happening
If Diavolo doesn't know Dio can stop time, he just sees a bunch of shit happen at once
Luis Harris
>image
Obviously not; this is clearly a test, as Bruno despises drugs.
Hunter Hernandez
To be fair, it was Gold Experience in Requiem form.
Jason Gomez
Made in Heaven. StH was what it was until Araki changed it.
Justin Hernandez
What do you mean he skips over it? Even after King Crimson is activated, DIO could still also activate his own stand if he was fated to do so already. Everything that happens in the "skipped" time still truly happens. Polnareff stabs his stand with the arrow within the supposedly skipped time and that still happens after time "resumes". Buccellati uses Sticky Fingers inside the "skipped" time and the effects of his power still activate.
Gabriel Gomez
>people who browse /trash/
I don't understand. People don't browse /trash/.
Ian Wood
Bringing Jotaro in would have done it. Even without getting into how the powers interact, Epitaph has serious limits to what it can predict and how, and Time Stop would fuck with that so hard.
Carson King
Josiah Barnes
Is JoJo ever going to go science fiction? In the original universe stands are caused by an alien virus, makes me wonder if in the alternate universe they're going to reveal Jesus/Saint's Corpse was an alien or something weird like that.
David James
We need video evidence of both of them using their moves at the same time
Oliver Edwards
Why do people dickride part 4 so hard. I've thought part 5 was better for YEARS
Caleb Johnson
>part 5 is (basically) over
>best part animated soon
I've been waiting for this since part 5's announcement, I hope 6 happens within the next couple years
Grayson Campbell
>In the original universe stands are caused by an alien virus
You think George Lucas took this as inspiration for midichlorians?
Ayden Parker
What would Hey Ya Requiem look like?
Joseph Lee
Eventually Jojo will have to deal with an Ayy stand ailen that knows about everything. That includes the OGverse
Carter Scott
Araki changed it to Made in Heaven because the lyrics fit Pucci's story surprisingly well considering that it wasn't planned. Originally it was Stairway to Heaven
Camden Scott
Well Lucas is a certified weeb
Nathaniel Watson
Can't wait for the animeonlys to circle jerk the fuck out of Part 6 and all of a sudden have 500 people come out of the woodwork saying "Part 6 truly was the best all along"
Like every single other time a part was adapted
Jackson Jenkins
it's comfy
Josiah Thompson
>Is JoJo ever going to go science fiction?
I fucking hope not. It's already retarded enough that stands were changed to actually be the result of an alien virus.
Samuel Russell
This post is retarded because you can say the exact same shit about Jotaro in part 3 who literally invents new stand powers on the fly, and you'd be just as wrong. You'd be entirely missing Jotaro's character and the entire part through your silly mental gymnastics.
and also how Jotaro's stand power isn't actually to stop time, it's to find and defeat DIO, that's why he gets The World and Over Heaven
Anyway yeah, Boochman is the real Joestar of part 5, but Giorno isn't a bitch like you are
Jayden Torres
>always liked 6 the most
>gonna look like a massive hipster fag when people suck it's dick and I say this after it's out
Isaac Taylor
>Kars was the ultimate being on earth
>Stands can beat him because they are alien
Truly top level kino, how could Araki come up with this?
Jason Gray
It's a buzzword but a really comfy slice of life first half, then one of the most intimidating villains in the series in the second half
Josuke is one of the best main characters and the supporting cast is fantastic
Tyler Smith
Since this thread is wraping up, let's post some OC stands.
pages.drexel.edu
Stand Name: The Ballroom Blitz
Stand Ability: [Illusive Appearance](powerlisting.fandom.com
Power - B
Speed - B
Range - A
Durability - C
Precision - D
Potential - C
Description: The power to create an illusive appearance. Sub-power of Illusion Manipulation. The user can alter their appearance by the use of illusions, appearing as anything they want, simulating Shapeshifting/Biomorphing.
Leo Martin
Maybe? But it's all spiritualism, nature, symbiosis and that kind of thing, JoJo plays a lot with the idea of fate, destiny and light vs dark. If George Lucas ever made his sequel trilogy it probably would've been more about that kind of thing anyway, or so he says.
At the very least Star Wars lore is very Eastern inspired.
Robert Lewis
REMEMBER WHEN PART 4 HAD AN ACTUAL FUCKING ALIEN EVERYONE INCLUDING ARAKI FORGOT ABOUT
Christopher Phillips
4=2>7>5>6>3>1
Jacob Turner
>Stands are caused by an alien virus
No, they're not. The virus only gives people stands if they survive being infected by it, it's not the origin of stands as we've seen natural born stand users and even people who develop stands out of mastery and passion, (Tonio) or meditation and self study (Avdol)
Jordan Torres
Thanks Speedwagon
Noah Bennett
He wasn't an alien he was a weirdo
Jackson Ross
The alien virus can awaken a Stand in those with potential as a reward for surviving exposure to it, but it isn't the source of Stands in general. They're still ESP like psychic powers that work because of soul magic, that's why an arrow can activate your whole family and that's why some people are born with Stands or develop them naturally.
Mason Collins
But was he though?
Jaxson Perez
>Implying Kars just doesn't bodied all but the most OP of Stands that can't exactly be beaten by brute force
There's a reason why people say Piller man can still wreck most Stand users, user
Adrian Brooks
Why? Is it the surrealism or do you think it's legitimately well written? Not memeing or anything either, personally I just couldn't take the absurdity of it compared to the other parts and Jolyne turning into a snail while fighting the '74 Miami Dolphins put me over the edge
Benjamin Powell
This was me with part 5.
Dominic Stewart
Can someone list out all the powers that Araki gives his characters to win a fight but never bring it up again for relevant moments? Like Polnareff never took off his armor against Vanilla Ice even though it would be no disadvantage to him at all or even fucking Giorno's damage reflection which I'm sure Araki could've used to show Diavolo being deterred from just one shotting everyone somehow
Zachary Allen
The arrow didn't choose him, he can't see stands, his ability is NOT a stand power.
Lucas Morales
Why the fuck there are so many jojofags in Yea Forums? Yea Forums in general is a
contrarian website but jojo is loves by everyone. Also not vidya
Josiah Martinez
>instead of Disneyland and Spiderman we get Polnareffland and Baoh fir Bohemian Rhapsody
Andrew Rivera
posting my shitty idea for jojo fanfiction
>Set during WW2 in AU Europe
>Main character is an American joining the war and getting into some REALLY deep shit involving the nazis using the spear that pierced Jesus to give people stands and experimenting on what gives people stands
>The main protagonist's stand is「ZIGGY STARDUST」
>The other members of his group are people from other countries like a brit with a stand named「JOY DIVISION」, an AU version of Polnareff with a stand named「CLEARLIGHT」, and a Russian with a stand named「AQUARIUM」
>They have a reocurring rival who's literally AU Stroheim who can turn his skin into steel and use metallic objects as weapons with his stand named「IRON METAL」
>The main antagonist, who's a German leader on the same level as Himmler who's behind said experiments has a stand named「MEGADETH」
>The true main antagonist is the spear itself, which is a stand named「SPEAR OF DESTINY」possessing the spear which gives people stands
>It gives the main antagonist a new stand after taking over his body,「SYMPHONY OF DESTRUCTION」
Leo Peterson
Things that happen in skipped time still in a sense happen, but Diavolo, by way of Epitaph and his exemption from fate while using KC's ability, can reposition himself whereas anyone else cannot, basically being locked into their course of action while Diavolo gets to do what the fuck ever. Dio can stop time, but Diavolo would be able to see this in some way through epitaph, either via just seeing the stop and events therein during his skipped time, or by using stand user paranoid autism to notice some infinitesimally subtle change to deduce that Dio does something weird. He can lock those events in and skip them like anything else, I'd imagine.
If Dio can get his timestop off first, under the assumption that KC cannot activate from within stopped time, Dio wins, but by the nature of Epitaph, Diavolo basically gets the first draw every time.
Dominic Scott
The craziness for sure. I love how nuts everything gets. But I will say that almost everything to do with Weather Report is fantastic regardless though.
That being said I totally understand why it's not liked. It's just my favorite, the best overall is probably 7.
Michael Nelson
>steam ports for all star and eyes of heaven never
Ayden Smith
The only stands that could defeat Kars are ones like Cream and The Hand that literally just delete shit. Maybe a D'Arby brother could suck his soul out. Maybe.
Gavin Jackson
Do you think they'll tie all this supernatural and alien shit together in the end or will Araki leave most of it a mystery?
Owen Smith
Sounds like what SBR Battle Tendency could be.
Carson King
Araki will probably just forget again
Christopher Nguyen
>tfw having to play it on my loud ass PS3
Connor Flores
Considering how we are on another universe altogether, I doubt there will be any more alien references.
Ian Scott
part 6 is kind of a mess but it has the best stands in the entire series so I give it a pass on that alone
Leo Foster
Isn't EoH mediocre tho?
Jaxon Parker
Stand Name: Roundabout
Stand Ability: [Rotation Adaptation](powerlisting.fandom.com
Power - C
Speed - A
Range - B
Durability - E
Precision - A
Potential - A
Description: The ability to adapt to rotating in different positions. User can adapt to any kind of position when rotating, making it so they can rotate in any position no matter how difficult, strenuous or unusual it may be, such as performing a fast rotation while doing yoga poses, or in hard to balance positions as well. They can rotate in any speed in any direction no matter what position they are in.
>TFW I'm basically a spin master
William Ward
I meant Iron Maiden for the AU Stroheim.
Fuck.
Blake Carter
I do love the bittersweet ending of it, how everything is ramped up to 11 and a half during the final confrontation at Cape Canaveral, it really does feel like a truly final confrontation not of just the part but of the series to that point with how the villains powered up from part to part to the point where MiH can reset fucking universes. It's too bad the writing only started to shine during the homestretch of it.
Blake Collins
EoH is pure shit but IMAGINE
Modded EoH
Noah White
Sounds nice.
Maybe throw a jewish character in there to flil out the party.
Caleb Moore
I think overarching canon has never been a major concern for Araki, I'm not saying he doesn't try to make an effort sometimes but I think the whole reason he produces the manga in separate parts is so he doesn't have to deal with too much baggage. He has been making it for a long time now as well, I'd probably forget/retcon things desu.
Samuel Cook
Is the prison arc the lowest point of part 6?
The attention to detail, characters and easter eggs are the sole reason EoH is ok
Benjamin Fisher
>One of the enemies they fight is a Japanese soldier with a special stand related to explosions
>He's literally AU Kira with a stand that forces people to kamikaze themselves
Gabriel Cox
It’s established as possible for most of the humanoid stands early on in part 3. I figure the only ones that can’t are either stands taking the form of inanimate objects (like hermit purple) or sentient stands that therefore have their own voice (sex pistols, echoes act 3, GER apparently)
Caleb Taylor
Dio's Timestop overpowers Diavolo's Timeskip in EoH.
William Taylor
Dio's Sons was fucking stupid
Juan Reyes
>Jonathan that high
nigga
2>4>8>3>5>6>1
Adam James
would love for jojo to have a middle point between stand combat and the physical confrontations like Phantom Blood or Battle Tendency, give the characters a reason to stay muscular.
Stands like white album were the shit because it was the user doing the work.
Jeremiah Cruz
The time is only skipped in the sense that Diavolo is able to escape fate for a time.
The problem arises when somebody else uses a time-affecting stand during this period. Diavolo can act against fate while others cannot, but what if time itself isn't progressing as normal?
Inside of DIO's World, the time that Diavolo is skipping literally is not happening. It has stopped completely. Diavolo can't reposition or otherwise react or even be aware of anything that happens while time is stopped. On top of that, anything DIO does within his World of stopped time is entirely divorced from the rules of causality. It's not accurate to say that all of his actions instantaneously happen all at once, because that would imply there is some time in which they happen in some sense, but there isn't. Instead of it happening all at once in one moment, the state of the world suddenly changes with no respect to causality. There is no way to scrutinize the instant where things changed because there was no instant where things changed, the flow of time and the coherence of causality was totally and utterly stopped. You are entirely underestimating just how powerful The World actually is.
Stopping Time is categorically more powerful than Skipping Time because you can't "skip" the consequences of events that don't happen during "time".
Jonathan Gray
Wasn't Polnareff attacked by Diavolo before which alerted him to his Stand ability?
Jeremiah Sanders
What do people think about the theory that part 4 was originally going to have Kira sending Josuke into the past, him pushing the car and then using the debris lodged in his body to pull him back to the future using Crazy Diamond?
It's an asspull but I like the idea of Crazy Diamond being able to transcend time to repair something in the future. Like a homing beacon.
Jaxson Ward
As a game yeah, as a story no.
Blake Jenkins
Convince me Polnareff wasn't the protagonist of Part 3.
>most Stand fights
>most comedic lines
>most side adventures without the gang
>most emotional scenes, both in count and weight
>most clever fighter (JoJo is just ORAORAORAORA)
>villains target him most frequently because he's a major threat
Aaron Rogers
The mysterious guy only looks like Josuke because it's just a product of Koichi's imagination. That or Araki forgot
Kayden Moore
I've been re-reading Part 1 and it's making me miss Araki's 80's style. In the manga, I think the peak for me is around part 3 and 4 in terms of art style, but I liked the classic look too.
Zachary Nelson
Man it's a real shame what happened to him in VA
Nathan Young
>Gets the best themes in the games
Bentley Nguyen
Isn't the not-Josuke one of the only times he's come out and admitted that he just forgot?
Gavin Ross
If it could do that then the part where he says he can't fix stuff erased by The Hand would make less sense because Crazy Diamond would just pull shit through time.
On that note he should even be able to revive the dead by pulling their un-departed souls forward through time
Isaiah Ramirez
How the fuck did the world over heaven beat GER and tusk act 4
Mason Hall
something something used it's fists
Adam Diaz
It's dio, don't question it
Nicholas Wright
Carter Richardson
He got cocky.
That's really all there is to it.
Chase Murphy
Stand Name: Hallowed be Thy Name
Stand Ability: [Adaptive Regeneration] powerlisting.fandom.com
Power - B
Speed - E
Range - D
Durability - B
Precision - B
Potential - A
Description: The power to adapt to any bodily harm as they regenerate. Combination of Reactive Adaptation and Regenerative Healing Factor. The user can regenerate and adapt in response to bodily harm, anything from becoming less prone to scratches to being impossible to cut, a slight immune system boost to becoming invulnerable to any biologically debilitating conditions or even increasing their own power in response to a stronger opponent...
Henry Cooper
Diovolo stomps DIO every single time because DIO is a massive fucking retard who thinks hes invincible despite getting his shit pushed in whenever someone has a stand that isn't hard countered by time skip and is more interested in sounding cool while Diavolo will kill him as quickly as possible and try to do it without anyone realizing he was even there
Logan Lopez
Fuck off Rikiel and Versus were absolutely based
Asher Adams
Jayden Nelson
Stardust Crusaders has a boring MC with no personality
congrats you played yourself
Grayson Cruz
You unironically connect the most with Polnareff than with the rest of the cast because he's the vehicle Araki uses most of the time to introduce enemy stands or bizarre situations, also the fact that Jotaro besides looking cool doesn't have much of a personality, It's why he's at his best being a support character.
Avdol and Kakyon also didn't have the charisma to carry the show by themselves.
Michael Parker
Rewriting reality is more powerful than both return to zero and infinite energy.
His fists contain an infinity worth of energy bigger than Tusk's infinity and can rewrite the rules of causality for himself exclusively such that even returned to zero he can do whatever he wants
Landon Wood
Donatella was alright, the other 2 were retarded and were pure filler
Jayden Baker
Well if you hit his brain in the right spot you’ll at least incapacitate him long enough to kill him for good. Polnareff almost did that with pure speed alone. If Diavolo knew that as well, he might be able to aim the hit well enough to do the job.
Problem is, it’s incredibly unlikely that Diavolo has any idea he’s fighting a damn vampire, much less where to hit him to properly stop him.
An informed Diavolo with some planning stands a chance. If the two just run into each other with no briefing, Diavolo’s fucked.
Logan Young
Diavolo was defeated by a broken condom, dude, I don't think he could beat an immortal vampire who could also control time but even better than he can.
Isaac Baker
if the universe resets after part 6,does that mean Diavolo is finally free or he's still stuck on GER?
Mason Morales
So, Darwin from X-Men.
Literally unkillable because the powers will just make him adapt to survive.
For example, he once was in front of Hulk, and his power teleported him on the other side of the planet.
He touched the goddess of death and instead of dying, he became a god of death.
quora.com
Joshua Peterson
It didn't, Jojolion is a hallucination
Juan Mitchell
A lot of people want to say "it was just a good Samaritan" and that would be nice but at least in my opinion I doubt that was the original intention desu. I think the idea that in the end Josuke was his own role model is pretty fitting, good end to his character arc.
I think Araki left it ambiguous enough so it could go either way, but as he went on he realised that giving Killer Queen the ability to send victims back in time would create plot holes, so I think that's when the time loop idea for Bites the Dust was born. It makes sense to me why it could've been ditched as a plot point, but I still think he could pay it off somehow down the line.
But if he does just abandon it, it's vague enough to work as is. Or it was Dandy.
Christian Cox
>kakyoin is alleged "jobro"
>him and jotaro almost never interact after their initial fight except for the clone stand
>kakyoin dies without jotaro even being there
>kakyoin dying isn't even a big deal to jotaro, at least not anymore than the other 2
>jotaro never mentions or thinks of kakyoin again
>meanwhile avdol is a part of polnareffs character arc even after their fight
>avdol dies protecting polnareff
>polnareff has the most emotional scene of the arc crying as he sees avdol ascend to heaven
>polnareff attacks dio in rage over avdol
Polnareff was the MC and Avdol was the jobro
Connor Jenkins
GER and Giorno still exist perfectly fine in the Irene-verse. Diavolo does not, he ceased to exist after the resets.
The Irene-verse is not the SBR universe.
Brandon Rivera
Pretty sure he's just fucked no matter what new universe is it.
Jayden Garcia
Knowing giorno, he probably took everybody he loves dearly to a alt dimension that isn't being reset
And if i recall diavolo was sent to alt dimensions where he dies repeatedly, so
Jose Foster
Kinda a bootstraps paradox type situation, isn't it?
Where did the original idea for the haircut come from
Hudson Rogers
You don't understand GER
Ryder Watson
The "it's just some rando" theory never worked since the dude looked pretty roughed up, almost like he had been in a huge fight, and I doubt there would have been a streetbrawl with a fucking blizzard, it was obvious it was meant to be Josuke.
Brayden Jackson
Diavolo only lost because bucciarati is one of the most competent characters in the series and somehow cucked him from the grave through sheer willpower, he had them on the ropes constantly because hes actually smart and extremely fucking paranoid. He doesnt waste time unlike DIO
Carter Wilson
>use GER on friends and yourself
>tell it to turn it off
>live in alt dimension
easy
James Harris
Stand Name: Two Tickets to Paradise
Stand Ability: [Omni-Weather Manipulation](powerlisting.fandom.com
Power - C
Speed - D
Range - B
Durability - B
Precision - B
Potential - A
Description: The power to manipulate all forms of weather. Perfect version of Weather Manipulation. User can create, shape and manipulate all forms of weather including artificial, natural, supernatural, divine, demonic, esoteric, cosmic, empathic, metaphysical, conceptual, etc., having no limits on the amount or type of weather they can control/manipulate.
James Butler
He does reverse Hayato's death towards the ending of part 4 though, so that's kind of similar. We have no confirmation Crazy Diamond can do that but it'd be cool because I always felt his stand was a little underpowered compared to some of the other JoJo's, being able to repair things regardless of time or space would give it that extra edge.
Jeremiah Russell
Or it fucks up somehow and I become Birkin.
Ryder Rodriguez
>forgetting about PoPo's scene with Iggy during their fight with Vanilla Ice
Polnareff had one of the most emotional scenes with Iggy and those two had a relationship that developed since Iggy's introduction. JoJo didn't think twice about Iggy being gone.
Adam Allen
What's his endgame bros?
Owen Campbell
Now this is a good ranking
Samuel Russell
He almost got killed by a plate of pasta wearing eyeliner
Gabriel Cooper
You definitely don't understand GER
GER sets somethings "universal value" to 0
GER set Diavolo's death to 0, so the universe is cycling through every single death scenario to figure out what actually killed him, but it will never find it so he's trapped in an endless death loop for eternity
GER has nothing to do with "alt dimensions"
Aiden Stewart
It's made in heaven originally it was stairway to heaven but he wanted to use that name for something else. He also talked about how he regreted using bohemian rapsody
Jayden Cooper
He doesn't exactly reverse hayato's death, he fixes him as he is exploding but notably before he actually dies. Notice that hayato doesn't even stop screaming the whole time.
It's comparable to the moment in part 5 where Giorno heals Mista as a bullet enters his brain during the White Album fight, just with a little bit more time liberty taken in the anime.
Carter Morris
Yeah, this is why I can't believe there are a ton of people, especially redditors, that believe it was always meant to be just some guy, feels like they're just deluding themselves desu. So Araki forgot, you can kind of see why he had to abandon the idea, it's a shame though because it was a great mystery that could've had a good payoff.
I think you could've pulled it off somehow by having Kira evolve his stand in one final act of desperation when he's surrounded at the end, snd it now allows him to throw people back in time where they won't bother him, born out of his fear, so Josuke is bruised and battered, he wanders in the snow for a while and finds the car, then has an epiphany and realises he can use the pieces of wood stuck in him to return to the future, then Kira gets crushed by an ambulance all the same.
It could've been done imo.