High quality animations

Still buying it lol

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>for children means it's okay to be lazy with it!
I fucking hate Hanna Barbara for creating this mindset in media

>children don't deserve good animation or gameplay
I remember when I played MGS1 and FF7 and was genuinely impressed with how many animations those games had for the era.
Why can't Gamefreak just hire more animators?

see

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post yfw you haven't bought a pokemon game since black/white 2

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that was the last good pokemon game

Imagine playing Pokémon with battle animations on

holy fucking shit game freak has saved this game, i'm pre ordering right meow

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FOREVERIAL TIEDUP DELITIZED

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In the end of the day, it'll still sell a shit ton of copies no matter how much you complain.

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yeah imagine haha

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Games don't need to look like Witcher 3 or Skyrim in order to be high quality.

In fact I would suggest that Pokemon has been consistently BETTER than those kinds of releases over the years.

Why Hanna Barbara specifically?

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Silver, actually.

>It'll sell well so you can't complain

How dumb are you?

oh lawd

12 QUICK BALLS?!?!

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Because that's an absurd investment of development resources. And no, the IP being successful does not give them infinite development resources. And again, no, not even "the most successful franchise ever" has infinite resources.

Ruby was my first and last pokemon game

That's fine too
The whole point is you were able ot break out of the brand brainwashing, so you're free

You said this about let's go pee and I didn't. I don't know why you say this every time a mainstream company releases a shitty game, as if I'm incapable of refusing to buy a low-quality product.

lmao

This is your Smash dlc.

How'd you like it?
That was the first one to really focus on a non-gym story a lot

They've done this for literally every game since XY haven't they? What's notable about it?

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okay, then let's change it to "people will buy it regardless"

how do more complex games get made for less

I don't expect infinite resources. I expect at least "GTAV" resources, of which Pokemon has several times over.

except they've already done it before. The reason why they "can't" do it is because every dynamaxed pokemon has 4 models, because the clouds that represent how many turns are left are a part of the model itself.

It's the fact that Game Freak is incompetent is why they "can't" do it.

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The shills are actually only the developers and official channels, no one is buying this "high quality animations" shit.

Your question has nothing to do with my response to the anons initial question of why animating every move individually for every Pokemon isn't feasible, but okay.

Name a game that does what Pokemon does, has a more complex battle system, and even close to as many species that are unique models.

Masuda should've died instead of Iwata.

See that's why most people are easily lead with a magic wand : you just give up, you just say that feedback doesn't matter anyway,etc..Not realizing that enough concerns have power, not realizing that enough people/consumers/voters have power.

You know what makes me go fucking insane?
The Pokémon Stadium animations aren't all original for every move.
Certain pokémon have unique animations with certain moves (Snorlax Megakick) while others had a generic animation for certain Satates (Kabutops megakick was reused to other physical moves).
There even certain moves where the pokémon would just stand there or do a generic "cast" animation for it.
The thing is, they greatly reduced this in the newer games. Now each pokémon have 2-3 animations if that and they are very poorly distributed/work with the move effects.
This is a billionaire franchise so the excuse of "It would take way too much time and effort" doesn't work, in particular if they are re-using assets.

Children deserve good quality too.

I liked it when I was a kid and I liked it upon replaying it. Simple but enjoyable. The OST really stuck with me. Building a hideout was comfy as hell.

>The reason why they "can't" do it is because every dynamaxed pokemon has 4 models, because the clouds that represent how many turns are left are a part of the model itself.
That claim is literally just something someone made up based on speculation from a clip of a model popping in. Stop stating it as fact. There is zero basis for it beyond speculation, and it could be explained in far more logical ways (distance based occlusion popping in everything after an animation not loading in the E3 demo, namely).

It also has nothing to do with the original question which was "Why can't all moves be animated uniquely for every Pokemon?". What did you even bring it up for? Repeat models in the files would have literal zero relevance to the workload of animating each species with so many unique animations.

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>enough concerns have power
they do, but you don't have enough concerns here to stop a billion dollar franchise from making money

You forgot about the better textures, as the guy who made the video posted at the start. Which would take a fuckton of time to make with 800+ mons.
Not saying you're wrong, or the GF couldn't do it, just that there's more involved than just putting the models through a filter.

>Game for children so who cares
>All the waifu bait, a loli made out of cream, and the constant jerking off of shit from 20 years ago

Pick one. If GF didn't acknowledge older fans, they wouldn't keep stopping to go THAT KANTO SURE IS GREAT HUH, MUCH BETTER THEN THIS SHITHOLE.

There's so much fucking wrong with this post holy shit.

elaborate

Who started this shill campaign? I've never bought a Pokemon game new past leafgreen.

They're literally rubbing it in our faces at this point

!!!

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Their argument for ditching half the dex is "we are making better animations", not "it's a game for kids". Hypocrites shall burn in hell for all eternity.

>tfw you pre-ordered the double pack just so Pokéfaggots keep getting shittier games
WINNING
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Nope

They look so much better on 3DS with cel shading and outline.

>"Except they've already done it before"
They've never animated every move for every Pokemon uniquely. Every 3D Pokemon game has done the same thing where there's a small set of animations that are called for specific moves, and then further effects are applied to those animations for each move. This has been done for every 3D Pokemon game with battles from Stadium to USUM.

>The reason why they "can't" do it is because every dynamaxed pokemon has 4 models, because the clouds that represent how many turns are left are a part of the model itself.
Is purely speculation and most likely not the case as the reasoning for it can be far more easily explained other ways. See: .

But even if it was true, it wouldn't be relevant to the conversation he was replying to either.

There was an interview before the games reveal. They said that the new Switch game will be what fans are waiting for, the next step in Pokemon. They know the game isn't JUST for children, it's for people who has been playing since red/blue which was released around 21 years ago... As someone who played the original 20 years ago, I will be pirating this piece of shit.

I haven't bought one since ruby emerald for gba.
You dumbshits sure took a long fucking time to figure out that gf is a cost cutting company not a make a better product company.

>implying all video games aren't for children
No exceptions, not even the M rated ones.

Gold here, I've played up to BW though.

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Maybe all the effort and budget went to high detail boob physics.

>youtube.com/watch?v=hrTGSdJzWE0
>0:18
WHOA
THE MODEL CAN JUMP

go look at the new trailer at 1:40

youtu.be/xhIc6UwnHj8?t=100

And repeat models does have relevance because you still have to make the new models anyways. The clouds are still moving with the pokemon, and animating that takes effort.

>missing out on HGSS

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That not dumb people like me will not buy.

Watch any Hanna Barbera cartoon, then watch another one, reused animations all over the episode, badly drawn characters, awfully drawn backgrounds, piss poor stories.

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>It's very hard to animate like that for a company like GF

Get on my level kid, haven't bought one since Y E L L O W.

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Nothing in that clip signifies that the models are duplicated in the files.

He's wrong about the textures though. they are the same textures, just in their original resolution rather than the compressed versions used on 3DS.

But BW2 was the best designed pokemon game.
The issue isnt that they cut costs, it's that they stopped being ambitious with the actual design of the game.
BW2 was the last game that was actually well designed in a way that provided a fulfilling new experience

>pokemon that is literal fucking food
I warned pokefaggots that gen 5 was the point of no return but they kept shoveling shit into their mouths.

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Fortnite has good animation.

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I can't wait for survive and the new Story game

No I will not

Last game I bought was Heart Gold and before that it was the original Gold.

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Ah, you mean it like that. Yeah, I agree. Childrens entertainment should be held to a higher standard. Too many people act like it doesnt matter what a child consumes, because they belittle the intellectual capacity of children.

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The 90 potions was pretty lulzy.

once the game gets cracked, and if i'm proven wrong, i'll buy 2 more copies

this thread is an explosion of asshurt
Pic VERY related.

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My last one was Pearl.

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yeah you will

also learn to type

I just tried doing the nuzlocke challange and my two pokemon died 2 hours in the game. Can I just restart and say that was my freebie?

I don't think he will.

reminds me of pic related

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Pretty sure this is tail whip, so they play a generic physical attack animation, and they do this spin to make the whole model shake it's butt. This is basically what Pokemon stadium did, not every Pokemon is going to have a custom animation for each move it can do.

This is kind of a non-issue

...

>tail whip
>tail doesn't move

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>HD game
>billions dollar franchise
>flagship title
>full price
>same gameplay for decades
>same models for years
>Non issue

Is it really bingo if there is no way for all the slots are the free space?

This sucks. Where are my N I N E T Y potions?!

>last game was BW, particularly cause I live in NYC
>didnt have to experience the disappointment of Game Freak floundering in the 3D era
I hear Mega Evolutions were interesting but not worth the jump to XY.
I also heard that super training was cool, but that was only XY

My last was pokemon soul silver

I never played pokemon. Is this worth it?

Is there a good emulator for Nintendo Switch? I'm gonna pirate the games.

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Heh, pranked.

>w-what, you expect the most profitable and lucrative franchise in existence to put in effort?
>even though other rpgs have unique animations for different moves, that doesnt mean pokemon has to!

No. It's something most people will get as soon as they gain access to buy them about 25% through the game. Cheap items.

not even remotely. it takes like 3 battles to get enough currency for 12 quickballs

>i was only pretending to be retarded

>pic
What in the fuck

>I'm
Don't lie to yourself user. You don't even know it yourself. You just read someone say it and ate that shit up like the gullible moron you are.

I won't, X/Y was a genuine disappointment and I only bought Moon because /vp/ autists tricked me into thinking Gamefreak fixed its shit. Haven't bought a single game since. People like you and this user will buy it though and make it a financial success despite admitting to yourselves that no one above the age of five should be playing it to begin with

So what emulator are you guys using for Switch? I can't be the only one that's gonna pirate it

yea no one fucking knows it until the game's cracked, retard

>actually shilling this trash
I just hope the new girls are cute and we get some cool new pokemon, skipping this like ORAS, USUM, and Let's Go.

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more like game for manchildren

this franchise is really only good for the porn

nope

This. Based.

>tfw haven't fallen for a Pokemon game since gen 4
>constant hot girls
>constant references to gen1 which is over twenty years old
>Ruby and Sapphire
>Don't worry GBA just didn't have the power for Pokemon in the overworld. Wait for next gen.
>Black and White
>Don't worry they just forgot to not make the game linear. Wait for next year.
>X/Y
>Don't worry this is just GF getting used to 3D. Wait for next year.
>Go
>Don't worry this is just a game for getting phone kids into actual Pokemon. Wait for next year.
>Sun/Moon
>Don't worry this is just a game for getting Go kids into actual Pokemon. Wait for next year.
>Let's Go
>Don't worry this is just a game for getting Sun/Moon kids into actual Pokemon. The game next year will be for the longtime fans.
>Sword and Shield
>After a decade and having run out of all excuses
>NO IT'S FOR KIDS YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN
>We take change slowly. Matte kudasai for next year : ^)
And that's abridging remakes and third versions

How do Japanese fans feel about SS?

I still don't get what this webm is meant to show.

>brown autistic muscle girl
I love her. Too bad I'm skipping her game.

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Rule of thumb is that if /vp/ is universally angry about something, Japan is twice as angry.

I bought moon and regret it

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i'm gonna need examples of this

It's oblivious use your mind.

>version exclusive gym leaders
Why did it take so long to do this? I think BW had only one of them.

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That there are no new animations, and the old animations haven't been touched up. Game Freak is just spouting bullshit.

Zinna. Waifu bait design that /vp/ hated that Japan hated so much they barely made porn of her and the manga had Rayquaza stab her.

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This
You got BTFO

:O

>Switch fixes the colours
Based.

I haven't played ORAS; but, how can you hate her? She's beautiful and has probably the best battle theme other than maybe Cynthia. Did /vp/ hate her as a scapegoat for the post game content being removed/the game being shit?

BEEP BOOP BEEP

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>I haven't played that game since I was 8
>but somehow I will order you to hate it and dislike all videos, you are under my orders now.
you have problems kid.

i liked the corgi before i saw the heart on its but. They had to fuck up a real simple design.

My old pal is dead. He's gone. I'll never buy one of his games again, but I can't just abandon a friend.

I'll always be waiting for you to get your shit together, Pokemon.

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gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/71184986?page=6

2nd post

@469654740
try harder bait-kun

There has never been a good post on this board that had the phrase "game for children" or similar.

This. What the fuck? Why didn't they just keep the outline?

>never bought anything
>emulated all the games
feels good

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I have a Switch I play every single day, literally played Smash every other day since release and have been playing Mario Maker 2 non-stop. But I haven't bought a Pokemon since Silver. GameFreak is absolute garbage.

i`m gonna buy the digimon games instead

thanks I'll never unsee it

Fuck you

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Theres others priorities, as making a Not! Britbongland.

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>I still don't get what this webm is meant to show.

This entire conversation about the new pokemon game started because Game Freak wanted to suggest that the reason the national dex is gone is because of the neccessary time and developed meant to produce high quality animation for this new game. Pretty much everything we've seen of the actual pokemon animation have been lazy and reused assets from the other games which contradicts their claim

The only things that seem to be well animated in this game are the human models

It’s a popular thing to do to corgis

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i didn't know this existed. I now hate it more.

YEAH BUT WHERE ARE MY 200 POTIONS?

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I miss Samumenco, bros....

I bet they fuck that dog

Even if not every animation is unique, you would expect SOME FUCKING animation. Not a fucking static potato being rotated around a bit.
It really highlights GameFreaks ineptitude and aged way of thinking.

Any normal developer would go:
>okay, we need to animate thousands of monsters, that's gonna be a huge task
>okay, lets spend a month or so developing a dynamic animation framework, it might not look perfect, but it will work more than well enough for our needs, besides, they are so common these days there's probably a lot of frameworks out there that does a lot of the work for us

Meanwhile GameFreak goes:
>okay, we need to animate thousands of monsters, that's gonna be a huge task
>let's get our single intern to animate all of them by hand in a week

Now show the dynamax moves. Or literally anything that isn't a low-level throwaway move. You won't, because you know they look better, and you're a coward.

>Didn't buy BW2 because I thought it would just be more of the same game
>Went ahead and bought X
>I still haven't bothered to finish it

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>meanwhile, back at the FGC

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>He hasn't see the Dynamax Arcanine and Steelix

>NotBritland
So the villians team uses butter knife as weapons?

They literally cost pennies in a game where money is fucking irrelevant. It's the equivalent of getting a free pack of napkins with a meal

>just because some animations are fine, you can ignore shitty animations

Oh true, I'll link it

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Too bad its studio is FUCKING DEAD.

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It's a move that none of your pokemon will have by the 3rd hour of the game. Also, that's an incredibly superficial webm

why is it superficial?

Digimon Cyber Sleuth is hardly "mature" and definitely holds your hand but I agree that it looks far better visually, the aesthetics are very repetitive and dull inside the dungeons in my opinion though. I like the overall aesthetic of the internet outside the dungeons though, really looks like Summer Wars.

Theres some real cringe dialogue in that game though, jesus.

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Is that a serious question or are you being retarded on purpose? It's superficial because doesn't impact anything in the slightest.

>it doesn't impact me so it doesn't impact anyone else

it's called empathy, user. Try to learn it.

Cope, it does impact the quality of the game sooner or later is not an excuse.

Are you really gonna insult the best selling Switch game of all time?

>fans boycott Pokemon
>Gamefreak shows new Pokegirl and new waifumon
>fans are excited for the game again
Game Freak really has perfected their craft. What a flawless strategy

Hi Masuda

>More like the idiots that returned to the crash train

IGGY!!!

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>greentext strawman
>LE KOPE XD
Well memed, niggers. Give me an actual argument on how it impacts the game in any way. You LITERALLY cannot

Where's the "game has cute girl" box?

Iggy is Pokémon Soul, Vanilla Ice is Masuda and Sword and Shield is Cream.

M E R E L Y P R E T E N D I N G

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The real issue seems to be that these are all static animations with no real movement of the body to even come close to anything that resembles the type of attack. Think about what you said where kabutops uses the same animation for physical attacks, there's effort in there vs machamp just putting his fist forward while being planted in the same position. Kabutops' literally swings his body forward, falls and gets back up much like snorlax gets up to do the attack. The idle animations aren't the issue, its the attack animations that bother people, because they'e been reused over and over for the past couple of games. An example I like to think about is a pokemon like Toucannon where even using the fly ability, or Z-move he's just standing there. It makes for a great "seer anger alone" meme but its really bad.

It's impossible to convince idiots, just go to Masuda.

Iggy is every niggimon cuck's anus after SwSh SwSh Bish is released

I have turned off game animations since gen 4

Why would this game be any different?
Who the fuck plays with animations on?

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Haha yeah dude. PLEASE DON'T POST THAT WEBM OF BLASTOISE FIRING HYDRO PUMP FROM HIS MOUTH INSTEAD OF HIS CANNONS PLEASE I NEED THIS GAME TO BE GOOD

>i haz no argument so i call u dumdum poopee hed
18+ board, chief

>bought Omega Ruby
>dropped it half way and never played it again
>bought Sun
>dropped it half way and never played it again

No more. Never again.

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Waifu fags aren't even human

Look up all the porn online. Saves you 60 bucks

Ok, i'll tell you the arguments
>Recycled animations for the Pokémon
>Low quality graphics
>Generic Pokémon plot off course
>Game will be very easy, permanent exp share will make things even easier
>Recycled designs like new Pokémon have traits from older ones
>A lot of Pokémon, including Megas will be cut
>Game will be inevitably unbalanced
>No postgame
>Champion does not look special unlike the previous ones
>Incoming Kanto Pandering
>The tree, Wingull and the the trainer not rotating to talk to you, the blue backgrounds
>Etc.
Now get BTFO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT WUZ SUPPOSED 2B MUH TORTANIC 2.0 \V\ROSEPHS ITS NOT FAIR

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I got fucking Monkey Paw'd out of my Corgi-mon. I hate it, I fucking hate it so much god damn it. God fucking damn it it's so bad I hate it so much.

t. Shit eater

>Oh no we missed the ferry
>Don't worry. Gonna try something I saw in a movie once

HRRRG THIS ANIME DESIGN MAKES MY PEENUSWEENUS HARD I MUST BUY THE GAME I MUST BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY AND MASTURBATE TO HER 3D MODEL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SHES SO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

What were you expecting instead?

ah fuck you

>wojak
Discarded

This argument needs to stop

We arent trying to bankrupt Gamefreak
We want them to get the message, that's why the controversy exists

How about you try to animate more than 800 pokemon? You fucking retard.

Gotta love idiots that doesn't understand logic and physics. Poor bastard, but fuck them all the same.

>Pls, Gamefreak is small indie company, animating is very hard

National Dex is gone for "High quality animations"

>Every Gym Stadium is the same model except with a different icon

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>>Recycled animations for the Pokémon
Wow, pokemon move and react similar to they have in the past. What a retarded complaint. Might as well complain that boxers punch similarly and that runners run similarly. Not to mention the fact that STREET FIGHTER has been doing it for 20 years now
>>Low quality graphics
Nope
>>Generic Pokémon plot off course
You don't know anything about the plot
>>Game will be very easy, permanent exp share will make things even easier
No, it won't. They had vulpix in the water gym to dab on grass types.
>>Recycled designs like new Pokémon have traits from older ones
What are you
>>A lot of Pokémon, including Megas will be cut
>>Game will be inevitably unbalanced
>>No postgame
>>Champion does not look special unlike the previous ones
What does that even mean? You realize Blue was just a guy in street clothes, right? Same with Cynthia, Steven, and Alder
>>Incoming Kanto Pandering
Source, your anus
>>The tree, Wingull and the the trainer not rotating to talk to you,
Trainers do rotate to talk to you
>the blue backgrounds
You mean....THE SKY?
>>pokemon that is literal fucking food
They had that since gen 1

>more than 800
Poor soul

>cut all those Pokemon because animating all of them is too hard for a small indie dev
>still can't make good animations for the Pokemon you haven't cut

What did they mean by this?

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Here you go bruh

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>similar
No, literally the same.

Before, they were just the exact same sprite

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Yeah, I can't believe XY used the same sprite for all their gyms.

>You mean....THE SKY?
No, inside the Gym when battling a trainer.

Amazing responses...

This
What in mother of all FUCK

I'm sad because I really like the sheep and corgi. If only the rest of the game wasn't a fucking trainwreck.

Damn... it seems I have been convinced.... I will now preorder the double pack.

>Trainers do rotate to talk to you
Someone post the gif

What they're doing with the National Dex they should've stuck with back when RSE came out. They picked the wrong formula, requiring them to make a new region and ~100 pokemon every few years.

People like you guys are why the Pokemon games have gone so fucking downhill.

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Gee, I wonder why the BLUE WATER GYM with BLUE WALLS and BLUE FLOORS has BLUE BACKGROUNDS!
30 iq post
And yet, you can't refute a WORD i said.
youtube.com/watch?v=YTkbPvFcq04

Splat

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He clearly lost control of his brakes

wtf bro I told you you convinced me.... why are you so defensive?

>models are the same high poly models from the 3DS game files
>animations are all either the same or incredibly simple
There is literally no reason why they couldn't include all the Pokemon, Gamefreak just knows they don't have to try anymore because their drone fanbase will eat up anything, as people ITT prove.

nice try fag

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>bought
no

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Well then enjoy the game, cuz i will not and i will never regret it.

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>Y U LE DIFFINSIB XD
>>models are the same high poly models from the 3DS game files
This has never been proven. Stop spreading misinfo.
>>animations are all either the same or incredibly simple
This is also false

>mfw I bought X

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The environment argument is kinda retarded. Pokémon is suppose to be mirroring the real world. The environments can get a little fantastical, but have to be anchored by real world inspiration.
Digimon flat out is in a much more fantasy world and therefore can get crazier and inspired with the environments.
Outside of that, I’ll give you most of the other arguments in the pic

Bro..... I'm buying the game because of your post. Why are you angry at me? :(

*tips fedora*

>infinite money to spend
>spend nothing of it on your main games
>spend everything on side projects and merch

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fuck

Enjoy coping on an anonymous image board

fuck you. it'll make millions regardless but i'm not buying this piece of shit

>This has never been proven. Stop spreading misinfo.
they literally are
>This is also false
There are webms in this very thread that say otherwise and plenty of more you can find online. Plugging your ears and screaming "IT'S NOT TRUE GAMEFREAK COULD NEVER DO SOMETHING BAD" like the shit-eating drone you are doesn't make it true.

Kys

for once i'm not getting it day one. what usually happens is I get punked on with a sequel or special version after a year or so, which i end up not getting. so, i'll just wait for that one to come out. maybe they will have fixes for the game by then!

wish pokeautists stopped buying literal recycled gamefreak garbage so theyd be forced to give the series to a real dev

Nah, most of the people that do it are old ladies who are basically crazy cat ladies but with corgis.

So tell us exactly what kind of super-high-detail animation you want for Tail Whip.

Just play FireRed, HeartGold and Emerald.

>they literally are
No they aren't. They look the same because they're the same pokemon. I don't know why I have to explain this to a grown man.
>There are webms in this very thread that say otherwise and plenty of more you can find online
You mean like the footage of Dyna max moves splashing the stands and rubble flying everywhere? Yeah, I bet that was real simple and totally existed for 894237650652657102509875920798790865297610876 years!
>Plugging your ears and screaming "IT'S NOT TRUE GAMEFREAK COULD NEVER DO SOMETHING BAD" like the shit-eating drone you are doesn't make it true.
Nice ad hom.
Why would I listen to someone that calls me an autist?

>NO IT'S NOT NOT IT'S NOT WAAAAAH WAAHHHH GAMEFREAK IS GOD STOP IT STOP IT RIGHT NOW
Pokemon fans are shit-eaters

have sex incel

how about you make look like it's actually wagging it's tail instead of just moving the model back and forth

"nice ad hom" mister intellectual drone poster

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What about Pokemon who don't have tails?

I've been nothing but mature, patient, and intellectual and this is what I get in return. Shove a rusty Cadilac up your gaping anus, faggot.
Dilate, samefag trannigger

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lmao gottem

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As per usual the drone begins to have a meltdown when people do not agree with his rampant defense forcing

It doesn't need to STOP making money, it just need to make LESS money than the previous game in the franchise.

Reminder on how investor money work:
If you make the exact same amount of money as last year, you are a bad investment.
even if you are still making profit, if the profit isn't as much as before, it's a failure.

Offended, resetera cuck? I bet you have pronouns on your twitter OMEGA LUL

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u mad?

Dear pokefags
Your games haven't been good since Gold and Silver
Don't @ me

>trump *wrong* .webm

BASED

*@s you*
nuttin personnel, kid

>>high quality animations
Who said it?

Masuda when talked about cutting mons

no he didn't

I never bought any. I have Blue rom with GBC and player 2nd and 3rd gen on emulators. Didn't even finish 4th gen.

reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/bzv1hu/interview_with_junuichi_masuda_about_the/
Idiot

*cartridge not rom

Crash, Spyro and Mario are also E-rated cartoon games for children, and their recent outings feature some of the highest-quality animation in the industry.

GF is sitting on even more money than all three of those franchises, with less than 0.1% of their merch-earnings they could triple the size of their studio overnight. They have no excuse.

XY used the same model with the roof having a different color.

you guys always forget, that they only had 151 pokemon to work with and no world to build with stadium.

not, that i want to defend the animations in the new 3D pokemon games.
black and white 2 was the last good pokemon game anyway.

Gamefreak drones BTFO as always

this

pokemon hasn't been good ever, it's always had worse graphics and gameplay than loads of titles sharing the same platform and the only reason it survives to this day is because your average nobrainer falls for a skinner box harder than epstein falls for underage girls

They should have stopped making new pokemon and refined the ones they already had. A lot needs trimming.

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The Pokemon Company/Game Freak are incompetents at resource/finance managing/hiring new people/programming despite their incredulously high budget, what else is new?

>Giant Arcanine clips through himself

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>That level of tonification
>On that young of a girl

>On a childrens' game

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this, dunno why you guys bother with these fucking threads your gonna drop money on it anyway and gamefreak will realize they can charge 60 and scam you for copy pasted 3ds animations now with only 150 pokemon each game

>your gonna drop money on it anyway
>you'll buy it regardless
Keep dreaming.

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The textures are probably the same as what they had made already. They were just lower resolution because of the 3DS.

This is beyond lazy, a sheep with pigtails, and now a dog with a Pikachu tail.

dog rotat e

it's such a shame that IG fucked up their video about this...
youtube.com/watch?v=_BE-qR8flkQ
Game freak are probs trying to kill pokemon at this point so their other games can actually get noticed.

Not all models from the digimon games a brand new. The whole keramon line for example is from the ps1 game of the movie. Personaly I would have prefered more environment variety like exploring a bit of the digital world at the end instead of just a linear path but I overall really liked the games as well as the digimon variety.

I hope the digimon games rise in popularity and success so Game Freak finaly feels threatened and actualy put in efforts in their games. That and I need more digimon.

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>piss off the other guys who own the IP
Crazy

Oh shit, I use this too.

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>mfw im gonna spend it all on Digimon Cyber Sluts and Story when it comes to PC

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Nah, only reason I ever occasionally bought anything Pokemon-related beyond Hoenn was because I had friends to play vidya with. Even they agree SwSh looks like piss, and turn-based shit usually only works for me if the story's good anyways.

If anything I wish Pokken did better, it was actually lots of fun.

They wouldn't even need to do this because they already don't uniquely animate much with what's there. Just re use more assets that they've already been reusing

>Your Rival starts the game with THIS
I dunno why, but the sight of that huge Machinedramon made me chuckle with how he's just about to fuck your shit up.

I'd be fine with this. Maybe some more regional forms if they absolutely needed new pokes. I really wish they continue with boosting the stats of older pokemon that could really use it, maybe give them some better abilities. They've shown their open to it, they just need to go all in.

How did you know?

>Corvnight doesn't fit in the camera

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What does this argument even mean? Can somebody explain it to me?

Right actually has a new animation. Checkmate, atheists.

uh no?

It's new yes, but its shorter so it's not a win at all.

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Don't you know that Masuda killed Iwata?

I really hope GameFreak just gives up Pokemon to a better company. They just can't do much of shit with it and the games they put over Pokemon are hardly worth anything.

>Guy in context says they removed Pokémon because the bloat was ruining the ability to balance the game even for a typical playthrough AND they can’t make that many hq models
>”Hurrr they only are removing Pokémon for grafix”

Epic

>Super Mario Maker 2 has infinite replayability
>FE Three houses turns out to be around 200 hours long
>Yugioh game is also really long with the campaign alone
>even after I'm done with these games, Trails of Mana still comes next year which has atleast 50 hours of content along with tons of replayability
Hey, remember when Pokemon improved their series and actually put more content in their games, not less?
Suck my dick, Masuda.

Pretty much this
Is not like you can see her porn in game why waste money?

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Not to say right must have taken twice less the effort and barely looks like water.

>game freak has the money and resources to match rockstar's output if they wanted to
>we get this
Damn shame.

UHH DONT YOU KNOW THAT WINGULL FLOAT ON UPDRAFTS!???? IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE WHY THEY HOVER AROUND LIKE THEY'RE HELD BY PUPPET STRINGS

Always thought the balance argument was rich from them coming from a game who's meta consist on 40 pokemon being good out of 400ish(only counting final stage)

they've never cared about balance before and most people who play pokemon don't play it competitively. All they're doing is ruining it for the majority to appease a minority that has never been appeased.

Take your npc posts back to your social media.
I haven't bought a pokémon game since sun and moon.
No one expects this game to bomb, but oras refreshing to know Gamefreak is aware they've pissed off the fanbase. I'm hoping it gets Nintendo to step in and say something

>even for a typical playthrough
Most of the time the regional dexes hit up to just over 300, most people are fine with transfering ones not in the region

It’s not just meta but also role overlap, lots of Pokes have no niche because at this point no matter what obscure move you want some Pokémon with a really high BST can get it.

and its shittier, wow congrats

>800
you mean 80?

How about buying the double pack for some FREE dynamax crystals guy?

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Friendly reminder if you were already going to buy SnS you're still buying it. Now post this chocolate goddess

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>keep adding 100+ animals with every installment on top of variations and other new side game modes
>act shocked when fans don't fall for your bullshit excuse on why you have to cut back suddenly
They did it to themselves honestly.

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Lol No.

>replaced

They claimed they've been working on this since Sun and Moon and despite that they haven't made a single new animation or model for old Pokemon.

no no no nO NO NO NO STOP IT THAT WAS JUST A SHITTY GAME WHERE THEY KNEW NOTHING AAAAAAAA

>Wanting to spend more than 2 seconds on FUCKING TAIL WHIP
It's like you just wanna do nothing but cry about stupid things

>tfw Joe went on a complete tantrum over on Reddit and had to delete his post because he got wrecked so hard

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What the fuck the wingull has animated wings where did you get this from timetravel user

Haven't wanted a Pokemon game since FireRed and LeafGreen

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>Digimon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA pathetic

ORAS

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Some people prefer orange vanilla

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Look at them and laugh

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At this point I think I'd be happier with a game that has no new pokemons but updated stats for all the shitmons or those with lower bst, shitty move pool or just retarded stat distribution overall.

When I think of the people who's favorite is ledian for example, man must it be though.

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The Beedrill/Pinsir anons got it harder, imagine your main being finally something and then robbed away.

It's just not fair.

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>tfw I was a Mawile fag, Lopunny fag and a Banette fag
Feels bad man

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Mine is Absol and its mega finaly made it somewhat usable as a sneaky pebble counter but nownit's not even sure to be in.

Missing a
>but waifus
space

fucking bait

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Volcarona is my favorite Pokemon and I'm scared shitless she'll get cut.

Yes, used.GF won't see a single cent from me

>the webmaster of serebii can't be this dumb right?

The worst part is, he isn't dumb, just a shill who can't criticize ANY pokémon game or else.

He's been on full damage control for a while now, spreading misinformation about how the game uses brand new models and all new animations.

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Fuck

Gave up on Pokemon after Platinum but it's depressing to see what they've done to a formative franchise from my youth.

looking at the hands, they are actually a bit different

... but why though

Fake af

I know Gamefreak won't go down, but I hope this retard loses a lot once this is over

I know for a fact their reasoning has to do with recognizing each building as the gym at a glance.
Can’t be trusted to figure it out otherwise. The approach to designing these games is probably as old and unchanged as the series itself

Black/White and B/W2 were shit and I'm not even baiting, al lthe "look at all the deep lore u just don't understand" it's shit

I wish I had left him safe and sound in Black 2

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Billion Dollar Company

>Brand new models

Yeah, because Galar pokemon count. Can't say it for literally anyone else though.

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Nope, I'm fed up. First gen I skip

fuck

So Pokemom S&S will have a interracial couple?

Oh I'll buy it. Used.

The thing is he is right, just completely misunderstanding the issue people have.
Though he’s also correct that if they adjusted how wingull turned and made it so it didn’t stand still people wouldn’t mind

GF knows this better than anyone. Pokefags eat up whatever garbage is fed to them no matter how much they pretend they have standards.

We just don't know. Maybe the gen 5 no exp thing
BASTARD

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Used games don't go to gamefreak or Nintendo right? Just to the store?

Shit

>updrafts 5 feet off the ground
user it looks fucking bad, and the point is that they're not changing shit. Did you see the animations this trailer?

>btfo by his own girlfriend
Anything ever come of that?

They don't learn Tail Whip.

Yup, I would be paying money for Nintendo's online though. I have to get all my shit off Bank because I dont want to pay a fee to have all my monsters trapped in Home.

Not sure why children's media consumption is held in such low regard when childhood/adolescence the most impressionable state of developmental growth. When you churn out such low effort garbage for an entire generation that entire generation will just grow up with little regard or respect for the arts, that's how you get baby boomers.

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I will literally castrate myself live if I ever buy this game for whatever reason. Deep deep sale or not.

Deleted the tweet and tried to make it come off as a joke

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>an "adult" pokemon fan saying "have sex"
holy shit i dont have an anime girl smug enough for this

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Fuck all these normies boycotting pokemon on twitter, facebook and reddit with their #nonationaldex hashtags, I don't even like Pokemon but I'm going to buy 10 copies just to be contrarian and to spite them, and there's nothing autistic nu/v/ can do to stop me.

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You and I both know X&Y were disappointing, Sun and Moon were even worse, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were the worst "third version"s yet, and Sword and Shield have the entire fanbase up in arms for the first time ever because it looks so bad

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And still they cry. Fucks sake user are you like this in the outside world? Thing is these Pokemon crybabies probably don't even make up 0.5% of the people that actually play the game. Fucking herbs.

Jesus christ, Joe. How far you've sunk

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>spending 600 dollars to spite fanbase
>calls THEM autistic
Probably bait, but oh the irony

why not reuse this?

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>Pathetic
What did THEY mean by this?

Yes yes. Now by the newest GTA.

Yellow was worse than USUM

I don't even own a switch. How am I going to buy it?
>it being for children means the quality can be bad

>Expecting Gamefreak to be intelligent

Then they shouldn't have claimed that they were implementing high-quality animations.

>i-it's sarcasm, bro!
Is there a worse and more cop-out excuse out there?

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No you're not.

Soul

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There are enough normies that cannot think critically and will buy whatever brand name is slapped down in front of them regardless of quality for it to be successful anyway

Have you seen some of those faggots? There's a reason they get so angry at "buy and consume product then wait for next product"

Fuck off

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Oh it’s bad alright, but it’s all in the presentation. The fixes suggested would just make it look like it’s gliding all over the field. Make the model tilt side to side on turns, place it a few feet higher, no stops, rise and fall, figure eights, etc.
None of those would’ve required any actual new animations.
I think this really speaks yet again to GF stupidity though

Goddamn the battles look so lifeless now.

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Souless

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I was pirating and buying used for years, because I was too poor. Right when I started getting a steady paycheck and started buying the games new (gen 6), they started becoming progressively more shit. It's like they did it deliberately just to fuck with me.
Didn't get Let's Go, and I likely won't be getting this. Might pirate them one day.

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...

Imagine the kind of person who defends this game

I didn't buy LGPE, USUM, or SuMo

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This. Like, the ARMS girls were cute but I didnt buy that shallow game

Fuck's sake just have another dev make a mainline Pokemon title for once, GF clearly is either burnt out or doesn't fucking care anymore

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>The Trainer reacts while the new ones won't

Seething SwShitter

>trainers reacting to their pokemon
God I wish we had this. So many potentially fun moments in gen 7 ruined by that fucking :) face

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goddamnit why cant we have this as its own mainline game

just fucking slap a story mode to it plus the new pokemans

The last one I bought was Diamond and I received Let’s Go Pikachu as a gift a few months ago. That’s he last two I played. This looks like absolute shit though. Cutting so much content for basically Mega Evolutions but somehow worse

wtf im a #bulbapediamissile now

pokeincels are drooling retards who will buy any pokemon game regardless of quality. Why spend time and money making quality animations when you don't have too?

Give me a billion dollars and i'll take a crack at it

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cope
>inc*ls
Dilate

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The amount of redditniggers on twitter going "g-guys we can ask GF to bring back the national dex but RESPECT the opinion of others who don't want it!!!" makes me sick to my stomach

The only shill can defend this horrible shit animation is either
>Y-you will turn off battle animation anyway so who need quality animations!?!?
or
>Waifu/Husbando still have better animations so who care!?!?

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Water Gun is supposed to be a little spurt of water. It's one of the two starting Water-type attacks.

Rhyhorn does and it has no tail.

>thanks for the (You)'s :)

post more of serebii getting owned

Then Rhyhorn can fuck off and stay with "moving the model back and forth" high quality animation

reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/c2do46/wingull_isnt_meant_to_flap_its_wings_in_flight/

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>weeb is also an autistic retard
hey guess what, normies love breathing, you should stop breathing forever, that'll totally btfo them LOL

Why are you using the anime? They embellish attacks all the time. A simple Tackle can cause a skyscraper-destroying explosion in the anime.

Theres actually a dex entry that says rhyhorn can destroy a skyscraper with tackle

Ryan will have your head for this.

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That's the same as Rhyhorn destroying a skyscraper with any sufficient amount of physical force, it's because it's Rhyhorn specifically

Pikachu can't destroy a skyscraper with tackle

Wut 12?????? Thats a lot? WOOOOOW

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Holy shit that game truly had too much soul

A trained Pikachu can.

this shit is so much better it's unreal

he said "higher quality animations", not "high quality"

get rekt

DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
just consume product and get excited for next product

you love Lucario, Gardevoir and the rest well they're all in cool 3D and you'll feel like you can actually touch and fuck them you will buy our game

kek

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Hilarious how people are trying to use Battle Revolution of all things to shit on SwSh when it recycles every single animation from Stadium 1 and 2 and both the Orre games and made some of its own low-effort animations.

>lead with Yamper
>use one of your free quick balls at the start of every battle
>if it fails Yamper brings it back and you can run away/kill for exp
>continue until you have 12 easy, free Pokemon
As if the early gameflow of Pokemon wasn't easy enough

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This you can see it crumpling and breaking before it even hits anything

>Yamper's Pampers
,':^)

You say that like gen 8 isn't reusing the models and many animations from the last two gens as well. The Stadium models might have looked shoddy but they were well animated, too, so what's the problem? And I challenge you to find a PBR animation as low effort as the double kick animation in SS.

>pokemon that is literal fucking rocks
>pokemon that is literal fucking magnets
>pokemon that is literal fucking sewage
>pokemon that is literal fucking digital
>pokemon that is literal fucking genetic abominations
>pokemon that is literal fucking my mother's rat, bird, dog, and radish

fuck youi

oh nononononono

>when it recycles every single animation from Stadium 1 and 2
And it still looks better than SS. Do you realize how sad that is?

>reusing the models
Why is this such a horrible thing to you people? The goddamned models are already so full of polygons the 3DS can barely handle having two of them on the screen at once.

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Because Kabutops kicking energy balls at the enemy while not moving an inch forward is so amazing and noteworthy.

Because they're reusing models yet people are claiming that the older mons are getting cut because they created new models.

GF made FUTURE PROOFED models for gen 6, it was why the games fucking lagged like shit. And then they just threw all that work in the trash.

>Why is this such a horrible thing to you people?
It wouldn't be if everything was being brought back. There is literally 0 excuse; all of the work is already done for them.
Now we have the worst of both worlds: the 3DS games ran like shit because of super high-poly models, and now the Switch isn't even going to let us see all of said models properly.

It's not, that wasn't my point. It's fine if PBR does it and it's fine if future Pokemon games want to do it as long as they look ok (which they do). But if they made future proofed models and then say they don't want to include all Pokemon in each game from now on that's pretty annoying.

>the Switch is just as powerful as the 3DS
Are you retarded

Thought you were joking but that’s actually a real thing. Holy shit

Where did I say that? Where the fuck did I say anything like that?

sadly I bought X/Y (and regreted it). I also played a friends's copy of LGP and thought it was dogshit

>Bought Pokemon Sun
>Haven't finished it
>MF

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>doesn't count bcuz i, uh...i said so!

Yeah it's sad like your attempts to defend it

You're desperate to shit on SwSh if you're trying to hold up Mega Kick's animations from the older games as the pinnacle of design.

The hell I won't! I didn't buy any of the Gen 7 games, and I already have a hacked Switch so I can pirate these games Day -11 like with (Ultra) Sun and (Ultra) Moon.

The game's going to sell 15-20 million copies but I won't be one of those sales. I used to think "eh, I might buy it used" but I don't even want to do that now, it's like spending money on used toilet paper.
The unfortunate facts are simply that beyond the blind loyalists who eat this shit up, there's a ton of sales from parents with kids who couldn't care less and see Pokemon and know it's ok for them to play.

Remember when preordering hgss gave you neat little figurines? Those were the days

>game is an absolute trainwreck
>gamefreak panics and adds in a generic anime fapbait
>str*ight people lose their shit and preorder right away
imagine your whole life being driven by instinct, like an animal

Each Pokemon needs like five animations. Rotating the model and having it wiggle around does not count as animation

Fuck

>>pokemon that is literal fucking food
>They had that since gen 1
???

I haven't bought one since pokemon silver/gold
no, not heart gold/soul silver but the one for the gameboy
get on my level, noobs

GLIDING IS NOT HOVERING.
you glide using updrafts, but you still need to flap your wings every once in a while or youll gradually lose speed and then height. Not to mention to steer, youd need to tilt your entire bird body, you dont just spin around

E for everyone
&
All Ages
Everyone And All includes Adults in that equation, sweetie.

faggot

pokefags can't help it man.

They're even trying to console themselves by buying it 2nd hand because they can't just NOT play the newest turd minted by gamefreak.

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If children don't deserve quality, then why does ANYONE deserve quality?
What makes us able to understand what quality is if we're not taught what quality is in our youth because all we get are products and materials with no quality?
How can we create quality if no one actually knows how to create quality because since time immemorial, humanity's been raised on material with no quality because "children don't deserve quality"?

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>muh dik lmao. take muh money :^)
(You)

Who said high quality animation?

masuda

GLIDING IS NOT HOVERING.
you glide using updrafts, but you still need to flap your wings every once in a while or youll gradually lose speed and then height. Not to mention to steer, youd need to tilt your entire bird body, you dont just spin around

>pinnacle of design.
who said this you literal autist

try winning an argument without forcing words into peoples mouths mkay

>dexit
this is just as fucking bad as when normies would turn everything into a "-gate"

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>Water Gun is supposed to be a little spurt of water.
looks like a little spurt of water to me
>inb4Japanese
It's also called Water Gun in Japan too. Deal with it.

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>How about you, one single person, do what they could easily hire a very large team of people to work on and do around the clock

If they're gonna get fucked over this hard, I'd actually rather not see them in the game as we all know Game Freak won't do anything to buff them for losing their megas. Maybe they'll give them +10 in special defense at the most.

No it didn't? One of the gyms was a giant Eiffel tower thing

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Exeggcute
Exeggutor

She'll probably be added to Masters eventually. So just play that.

But they're lower quality than the last game

>when it recycles every single animation from Stadium 1 and 2 and both the Orre games and made some of its own low-effort animations.
That's the point though. At least Genius Soronity had an excuse to recycle animations and they still made animations far better with much worse technology and with a much smaller team.

pokemon stadium 2 exists you goddamn shill fucking retard
neck yourself

Eventually's more likely to be Gen 9, so give it a good 3-5 years.

fuck

Damn I wish I was as smart as you, those were the last good games. Absolutely hated Y, was disappointed with Omega ruby, and very annoyed by Sun and had zero motivation to get ultra sun. Sun being my last one makes me feel pathetic, I never should've trusted them again after how bad X and Y were.

I might end up buying shield. I hope I don't and I hope a lot of people don't. They need to restructure and ditch masuda. But why would they? They make millions without even trying. He's too firmly in place.

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mazionga

Let's be honest here, the game could have a gorillion pokemon with a double gorillion animations for each one with a deep incredible Dragon Age-style story and Yea Forums would still shit all over it for other reasons.

>Have 752 monsters in a single game
>Have so much unique animation for every single monster including fully functional walking and running animation
>Be a game for kids
>Be a super good game on top of that
>Be Yo-Kai Watch

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Imagine making this and thinking you were anywhere close to correct

>rhyhorn can destroy a skyscraper with tackle
>can destroy a skyscraper
RHYHORNS DID 9/11!!!!

I got Ultra Sun and don't even regret it, didn't even shit on it much during release, but for some reason I feel absolutely no will to touch SnS and it might just be the end of Pokemon for me altogether.

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post games with high quality animations

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Pokemon has individual walking/running animations for all Pokemon in the code of the 3DS games.
They just don't use it. Hell, there's a ton of "sleeping" animations that actually are used technically, but almost no one will ever see them.

not sdt that's for sure

how much effort goes into making these?

oh yeah post one of that type of gameplay with better animations

protip: you cant

emulate it*

They still didn't build a world in the new one either.

It's objective truth, faggotron