Thank you G2A.com. Very legal and cool

Explain to me why G2A is bad, other than the fact that they cause dumb indie devs and video game journos shit their pants in anger.

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It's a genius strategy. Just look at Pokemon, one guy falseflagged as a retard and harassed Masuda, and now no one is allowed to criticize or boycott the game.

They buy keys using stolen credit card info. But I imagine you're the type of edgelord who sees no problem in doing that.

>face STRICT CONSEQUENCES
off to the gulag with him

>They buy keys using stolen credit card info

There's never been proof of this. Literal fake news.

do you like funding terrorism and money laundering?

Amusingly enough, it's a double whammy. They are scamming indie devs for profits, but what enables them to scam the indie devs is the indie devs scamming Steam for extra profits. If the indie devs stropped trying to scam Steam, G2A really wouldn't be able to do that much because if the indie devs would to business normally, all the Steam sales would fall under Steam's security but by generating keys to cut Steam out of the equation so they don't have to pay Steam's cut, they also cut out the security features.

eat a bag of baby dicks nigga

You're right. At least I'm not the retard who thinks that having to order a new card and cancelling the old one is so inhumane. Not that you have any evidence of G2A or any similar websites doing that.

Who are "they"? As far as I know anyone can resell keys there.

Aren't they linked to the Russian mob or some shit?

>They buy keys using stolen credit card info
I see this mentioned a lot but the only actual substantial evidence I have seen is G2A exploiting the regional pricing differences.

If you buy second-hand keys for singleplayer games you are straight up RETARTED

>do you like funding terrorism and money laundering?
I don't pay my taxes in the US and I am not a money launderer, so I don't fund terrorism or launder money.

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>10 cents have been deposited to your account!

I bet you don't have even a single shred of evidence about this. The real fact of the matter is that devs and publishers hate grey markets, same as when Microsoft and Sony tried to get used game sales banned.

>keys are single-use activation gimmicks
>muh second hand keys
Are journos this fucking dumb?

>Steal someone's credit card info
>Buy a bunch of Steam keys
>Put them up on G2A and make as much as you can off it before the card's reported stolen

Post your proof or fuck off steamcuck.

>second-hand keys
>locks to an account when used

>Hi I'm a writer for [vidya website] can I get a code to review your game?
>Sure, here you go

good goy keep repeating what we-... er i mean what the media says, they ARE the experts right? if they weren't, they wouldn't be allowed to write abouy these things.

I play a lot of indie games and have bought heavily for over a decade now. With that said, I don't want them making a living. I want them to be starving artists that die poor only to have their work appreciated later

>"We have written an unbiased article about ourselves"
Who runs G2A? Sounds like some ESLs who don't understand the English language well enough to lie properly.

Why do you people even care about G2A when there's a bunch of legit gray sellers which always have better prices...

Yeah, I always wondered how these websites managed to stay in business after Steam introduced the regional lock shit. Greedy devs are to blame for their own problems after all.

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yes i watch hollywood films in theatres sometimes

I've only bought a few grey keys, but Kinguin always seemed to have better deals (or have the keys I was looking for).

>keys are all disabled, even if redeemed
You do realize every key has a receipt attached to it, right?

Do you guys not understand that keys bought off of Steam don't work if they aren't used in the country the key was bought on? These "stolen keys" are generated by the devs themselves and are outside of the measures in place on Steam to stop this shit from happening in the first place.

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That honestly seems like bullshit. If any website was linked to some major credit card theft operation, it would not only be immediately clamped down on by law enforcement but there would also be a major outcry from the consumers because of chargebacks and games lost accross hundreds or thousands of accounts.

>see a game I like
>go to a website that lists the cheapest options at various keystores
>buy games for 60-70% of the Steam price
>the only people who cry about it are worthless indie devs who can't sell games for shit
If devs weren't retarded and didn't send out keys to everyone on the planet, they wouldn't have to cry about grey markets now.

kek

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How often are keys purchased on these sites revoked?

I've never had a "stolen" key revoked, because I don't use gray market sites. But I have had a legitimate key revoked because the developer "accidentally" revoked it, along with all the other keys purchased through several legitimate bundle sites, due to one particular site supposedly scamming him. This was an obscure indie game which probably got 99% of its sales from bundles so he basically revoked the game from everyone who owned it. He claimed it was an accident, but this happened almost immediately after he raised the price on his game, so he probably just thought he could get away with making people buy his game again. People had to email him personally to get replacement keys; Steam never did anything about it.

My point is that it's REALLY easy for developers to revoke keys, to the point where they can even scam customers out of legitimately purchased games with no consequences and Steam won't do anything. So I guess the hard part is figuring out which keys are actually stolen.

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>They buy keys using stolen credit card info.
If they did all my games would have been revoked a long time ago.

>I've never had a "stolen" key revoked, because I don't use gray market sites.
About half of my 520 games/DLC on Steam are "gray market" and not a single one (not even 1) has been revoked.

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I've bought so many games from g2play, a similarly dodgy grey market key-seller, and not once have I ever had a key revoked.

>How often are keys purchased on these sites revoked?
I got one revoked. Took a printscreen, sent an email to G2A and got my money back.

Just one one (1) single piece of proof of chargebacks or credit card fraud/stolen keys, and there will be an end to the G2A horror.

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I wish she was my gf

Same here. I bought most of my shit from greenmangaming, 2game, gamesplanetUK, nuuvem etc. since they're always cheaper than Steam. No issues whatsoever.

I remember when CDPR got all butthurt because GMG sold Steam keys of Witcher 3 for a lower price than GOG sold Witcher 3 keys for during their own summer sale. What absolute jewish fucks.

>go on dark net markets and buy bulk credit card info
>out of the stolen ccs in a bin of a couple hundred maybe 10 work, which you then max out buying codes
>sell codes
>owner of cc realizes he got fucked, and he reports it as stolen
>transactions are disputed, and the codes get deactivated
>storefront loses money as being on the receiving end of a chargeback costs a fee beyond the original cost of the transaction. often these stores are the dev’s own website, fucking them over
>repeat, g2a support being so incompetent that you are going to get away with selling a lot of codes before any action is taken, if any.
It’s a similar dynamic to used game sales in that people are getting the game with zero proceeds going to a dev, only this actually costs the devs money while used games were more of an inconvenience

It's not that hard to figure out, they're just lazy. You can tag batches of keys and request many small batches to easily narrow it down. Valve is slow as fuck with key requests though, so you can see why they wouldn't do this.

Then there's just naive indie devs. When you first release a game on steam you're spammed like fuck with eceleb impostors (and maybe some actual budding ecelebs with 0 views), key reselling sites trying to get handouts, and whatever else. I took a chance with a few keys, and some chinks left a positive review even though key reviews don't count for shit. So I'm not very salty about it.

This is like saying ebay is bad because there are scammers sometimes. G2A is just a platform that allows for easy transactions for redundant spare keys.

>b-b-but muh stole credit cards
What proportion of G2A keys are from stolen credit card info

Alright, so, by dismissing the complete mail, don't they confirm that it is possible to sell illegal keys there? What's their end game?

Keep crying while I enjoy my cheap games

G2A is a marketplace for sellers in the style of ebay, they dont actually provide any of their stock. They put a bare minimum of effort to police their sellers and are also based in fucking Hong Kong/Poland so suing them would be a massive pain.
G2A isn’t literally running a credit card fraud scheme, they just have their store set up in a way that makes it really fucking easy for credit card thieves to offload merchandise

>bragging about paying for pirates

>mysteriously none of this is reported to the police and there are no complaints about users getting deactivated codes en masse or having their activated codes be revoked, only devs whine about the site
hmm

How do I buy keys actually? I mean how come sites like GMG are cheaper?

seething buycuck

gmg is sponsored by intel.

>none of this is reported
>devs whining
you contradicted yourself fucking idiot
why do you suddenly not believe the devs when they perfectly outlined what happens?

Some key reselling sites buy unused keys off bundles or from the dev directly.

>>none of this is reported
>TO THE POLICE
Nice job omitting the whole point of that user's sentence, you faggot.

There have been tons of reports of g2a games being deactivated you mong, that site had a reputation for being bullshit long before devs started bitching about it hurting their bottom line.
Steam gift trading became unusable because motherfuckers would flood the market with G2A AIDS games that would inevitably deactivate after changing hands so often that you didn’t even know who was the original scammer.

Why would I ever believe any devs if they lie every single E3.

They take a lower cut. Steam or gog or uplay or whatever take $18 off of a $60 game. GMG takes like $6-10 and they leave the remaining $8-12 as a discount.

"New computer, who dis?"

>There have been tons of reports
citation needed

They’re based in Poland and they are operating in a legal grey area similar to copyrighted Youtube videos where they dont really sell the stolen games, they just act as a market with minimal effort protection and enforcement

But the key is used on steam right? How do they get the keys in the first place?

not sure why but also gmg is cheaper in pounds than in euros, usually by good 10-15% then you also have 20% discount for pretty much any new game if you're vip. There are brand new games on gmg that are cheaper than on steam summer sale a few months later.

from the publisher

did you just start following pc games a week ago or something? People were talking about getting gipped off that site for years, if you absolutely need concrete written citation just go on your pc gaming message board of choice and search old threads about g2a

They buy them straight from the publisher usually. In some cases where the publisher doesn't cooperate with them because they're stupid jews, they just get it off other sites that got it from the publisher.

>Buy a physical copy of a game
>Sell it to Gamestop
>Gamestop sells it again
Is this the evil system that people are accusing G2G of practicing? I really don't understand.

Again, no citations. Those "people" could've easily been paid steam shills.

The publisher owns the key for free? Doesn't he pay a comission to steam?

One time I used Kniquin or G2A and got a picture of a code in a game case

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>has fuckall proof of his claims
>but it is known! trust me dude :)
lmao

How much do you have to hate indies to side with g2a anyway?

How the fuck do you think any physical store works? I know they're dying but if you ever left your house and tried buying some games you would find just a steam key in a box.

Stolen Keys and stolen Credit cards are a meme, someone always paid for them.

Devs are just mad their regional pricing scam is getting abused.
They create fake internet borders and want you to accept them, what sites like G2A do is just sell keys from cheaper regions.

The only way to get a key for a game on steam is if someone with publishing rights generates it for the game. So the dev themselves or their publisher.
partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys#3

No one likes Gamestop either

If you steal a used game from gamestop are you stealing from the devs?

why the fuck would G2A's employee do something so fucking dumb? he could have jeopardized the whole company with this dumb thing he did

Do people who make indiependent movies cry this much?

>People were talking about getting gipped off that site for years
Such reports exist for all online storefronts, and g2a has a bunch of posts in these same threads saying the key was fine or they received a refund if it was revoked. This is what you get when you deal with an open store where anybody can sell a key, for good or bad.

I always assumed they bought a ton of keys when a game goes on sale and then sell the keys when it goes back to regular price.

Honestly everyone wins with that method. Consumer gets cheaper prices and the dev gets an influx of cash at a price they were happy to sell at.

twitter.com/SomeIndieGames/status/1148234874035277825

>Can we move on?
Hahahahaahaha, you poor fucking idiot. You've ruined your Twitter account for the rest of your life.

so just disable the keys and the market place dies with it? what the fuck is wrong with indie devs?

Likely a bunch of Russians. They're always behind scammy shit like this

Yes and no. Depends on the person and whether or not they fucking suck at making movies. Entitlement is one hell of a drug.

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>Is this the evil system that people are accusing G2G of practicing?
No.
>thief steals game
>sells stolen game to gamestop
>gamestop sells stolen game to someone else
>thief makes money, gamestop makes money, original owner of game loses
is closer to what the whining is about.

This, they want to reap all the rewards of globalization while denying any of the small benefits that such a thing has for the consumer. It's a two way street.

but thats wrong

True. So that means the person selling stolen keys makes like a bandit and takes your money and you're left with nothing. It also costs the developers money to process all of this. Stolen keys hurt everyone but the thief.

reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/68khbz/i_created_a_little_minicomic_to_show_how_g2a_is/
mobile.twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/849497884521357313
pcgamesn.com/action-henk/action-henk-g2a-piracy
reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5rmdbt/why_you_shouldt_every_use_g2a/
fortressofdoors.com/g2a-piracy-and-the-four-currencies/
A quick search of g2a on >leddit brings up a lot old discussion about g2a and how shady it is. There’s your sources. Suck my dick you vodka nigger

You're worse than buycucks

>the revisionism is real

>Likely a bunch of Russians. They're always behind scammy shit like this
Fuck off nigger, the only time I had a problem with a Russian key seller was when I had to wait an extra day to get my Kiwami 2 key. Every other couple dozen other purchases at various stores were fine.

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if that were true no one would be buying keys in the first place

Steam has securities for that in place though. For example, I live in South America, so any games I buy can only be played in South America and Latin America. So that means if a key is bought in the US, it has to be used on the US.

I suspect they have paid shills on here, g2a has been trying to do damage control on gaming sites for years

Except this never happens.

You people are retarded. I had a drug problem a couple of years back and this is what I used to do.

I worked at a restaurant and I would copy someone's credit card data when they paid with their credit card.

I kept their data for a month without doing anything with it. Then out of nowhere I would buy lots of PHYSICAL games where they had a key attached to it. I would let them deliver the games at a inbox next town over where I just paid about $100 a month to rent it anonymously.

I then spend the evening writing the keys down and putting them on G2A. The keys wouldn't get disabled because the retailer doesn't know which codes they had access to. I just assume that the credit card holders refunded their shit and the retailers or game developer had to pay up. The person that bought the key got their game and got to keep the game and I get to buy my drugs again.

I stopped doing it when I got busted by my boss writing down credit card numbers but since he knew I had some problems and we had a good relationship he said he wouldn't report me if I try to stop my drug addiction which I did.

Anyway I'd make anywhere between $2000-$5000 a month doing this. Wish I never wasted it on drugs and just kept saving it.

>thief steals game
Honestly, how much of their stock is "muh stolen credit cards" purchases? 1%? 2?
If it was the majority of their available keys, they'd be immediately shut down for fraud. Yes, even in Poland, it's not Africa, it has laws and shit.

Do you understand just how many people would have to be stealing boxed copies in physical stores to keep sites like G2A stocked with usable keys? It simple isn't possible. Same goes with using stolen credit cards.

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>supposedly massive fucking credit card criminal operation that has been going for years
>scrounges together 6 or 7 actual complaints in total
>all of them are anecdotal
Very impressive, my dude.

Honestly, now, I would believe the story if his girlfriend is a tranny.

>You people are retarded. I had a drug problem a couple of years back

Yea Forums has the greatest comments

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I don't blame them for trying. There's literally nothing wrong with G2A, but hysteric tranny game devs are constantly trying to drag their good name through the mud.

>cheapest
>helps kill western developers

Why would I not want to buy from G2A?

>not a single shred of evidence, just people making claims and expecting to be believed
Do you not know what evidence means?

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G2A shills out in full force ITT.

what part of g2a not actually stealing the cc’s do you not understand, they just have very lax moderation that lets thieves profit off it

So game devs weren't affected at all?

>Yea Forums has the greatest comments
>comments

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>hysteric tranny game devs are constantly trying to drag their good name through the mud
Just wait a week or two, they'll find another hot topic to screech about and forget about g2a for a while.

>seething retard makes up a whole story using stories he saw on american TV series
>expects people to believe him
Go OD on a marrywanna needle, you retard.

>They buy keys using stolen credit card info.
so carders?

Of all things, why are people sitting here like this is the first time this has happened revolving around G2A? remember when Gearbox got shit for partnering with them for Bulletstorm?

They're pretty much on the edge of law.
I'm pretty unconvinced G2A would win in court if anyone sued them with evidence

But those are authorized key resellers, not grey market sites.

how do you spastics think g2a gets so many codes that are cheaper than anywhere else lol

>they just have very lax moderation that lets thieves profit off it
How. Many. Purchases. Are. Theft?
You fucking people scream about all these fraudulent sellers and revoked keys but there's NO DATA on how much of their sales are like that. Can people bring a stolen game to Gamestop or whatever and trade it in? Sure, but so what if it happens once every blue moon?

i'm just surprised devs are still sticking with this claim without presenting any proof at all

Over 99% of sales on G2A are legit, just some fag buying the game in Russia and selling it to you, the devs still get money for it. It doesn't matter if it devalues the game, that's just throwing a little bitchfit over something that is completely legal in every single type of market.
However, I'm not a shill. I just want the facts to be straight. G2A should be disliked because:
A) They make you pay for buyer protection instead of making the occasional mishap the cost of doing business.
B) Nothing is even a good deal there any more. Five years ago, it was always the cheapest place to buy games, often times lower than sale prices. Now they're higher than sale prices and much higher than CDKeys or even a GMG discount in many cases.

web.archive.org/web/20190629135353/https://kotaku.com/g2a-scammer-explains-how-he-profited-off-stolen-indie-g-1784540664
G2A is absolute scum and has been fucking over devs, publishers and localisers for years via scammers who buy keys with stolen credit cards to sell on G2A.

>how do you spastics think g2a gets so many codes that are cheaper than anywhere else lol
Like any other key re-seller site? Humble bundles, sales, dev keys sent out for reviews or whatever else. A cheaper price does not mean it's all fucking fraud.

And apparently these thieves are so low profile and extremely tiny in number that finding proof of their existence is damn near miraculous.

Man, can't wait to buy from G2A. Getting my stuff so cheap feels good. Hope the industry crashes tbqh.

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Because when I add the game to my cart it says $10 but when they charge me it says $12
If I sell there I list it for $10, it says I'll receive $9 but when the item is sold I only get $7 on my balance

>reddit is a source
go fucking back zoomer nigger

Reselling is breaking the law

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>muh legals
Imagine being a moral fag

so can you even prove those keys were stolen?

never had a key revoked been buying from grey market for years now

video games have warranties?

I don't know, but I'm really looking forward to the day when G2A finally is sued

>anecdotal
>one person
and besides they were fucked over by one person using a stolen cc on their site. not g2a. is your point just that key reselling is scummy?

Because the keys were marked as revoked due to the credit card company canceling the buys.

>reddit
>citations

you gonna link infowars or kotaku next?

if all the keys getting sold on g2a are getting revoked then how are they still in business? shouldn't people learn at some point and stop buying?

Do you know how law works, or are you from some third world country?
Oh, of course you are. Poland is a shithole, G2A shill.

>by one person using a stolen cc on their site
That's what everyone is fucking saying you idiot, no one complains that G2A is directly stealing keys from them, they complain because G2A lets those who do steal sell them incredibly easily.

>for years via scammers who buy keys with stolen credit cards to sell on G2A
THEN WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM IF IT'S A CRIMINAL OPERATION THAT SPANS YEARS?
Honestly, you're starting to piss me off. So in your fantasy there's this big site that's been operating for years, the big part of the stock being fraudulently obtained, and it's common knowledge that the thing is a scam. Do you not realize that such a situation would result in immediate shutdown of the site and/or it being off the market due to people not buying from them?
But that's not the case, is it? Could it be that those "stolen card purchases" happen so extremely rarely that it's not an issue with the website?

Wrong cap.
Pretty much it's uncertain whether reselling digital items is breaking the law.
I want G2A to go to trial so that we can verify whether it's legal or not legal

oh yeah instead of posting the original source post a tweet, very convincing.

This sounds like its part of the mountain of shit indie devs instigate when they ree out that their special snowflake games don't sell.

It's easier to dismiss the entire mail than just parts of it, since you'd inevitably have people nitpick everything that hasn't been dismissed. Better trash it as a whole and release a new one, if at all.

these devs should contact law enforcement instead of writing twitter posts if that's the case

They admitted to it as well. And the only way to stop it would be for devs to submit keys that were bought with stolen CCs and then look if they have sellers with them. There's no other way to verify which keys are fraudulent and which are not.

ESL faggots are brain damaged. I'm guessing this guy was paki

No they are getting revoked by the credit card company. The key themselves can still be used depending on how the developer handles the situation.

>THEN WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM IF IT'S A CRIMINAL OPERATION THAT SPANS YEARS?
Because it's cheaper and the end user can't really have anything bad happen to them except maybe have their key revoked.

>g2a-scammer-explains-how-he-profited-off-stolen-indie-g
And here's where everyone's who gets scammed is at fault. It's like buying from some random Ebay fuck without any real ratings - there's a fucking high chance you'll get scammed. You think the sellers who sell tens of thousands of keys just do chargebacks on all of them?

Sometimes prices vary within a region. In the EU I can get a game cheaper in norway thanks to their currency then in france while both are in the same region.

it also mentions at the end that they are taking new precautions. should ebay be shut down too?

Have you never heard of the many criminal enterprises (mob, yakuza, drug lords, etc.) that are clearly involved in all sorts of illegal stuff but have no evidence to back it up because they cover their tracks? And who would has access to, would compile and would distribute this data? G2A themselves? If there are so few stolen keys on their site, I'm sure they'd love to show their data, but they aren't.

the article literally lists two companies that got fucked over by hackers who bought a bunch of games with stolen credit cards, mangagamer and tinybuild and in both cases the keys ended up on G2A. This is from 2016 and the problem has only gotten worse. Chargeback fees end up costing companies way more than the product was even close to worth and G2A doesn't give a shit.

I wonder why the alleged problem persists if devs aren't disabling the keys

Nigga, if this would be such a widespread problem that it costs some dev hundreds of thousands of dollars CC institutes would simply blacklist the site from being able to use them in the first place. Noobdy would be able to use a CC to sell or buy shit trough g2a anymore.

I like how Kinguin somehow flies under the radar during these discussions

>If there are so few stolen keys on their site, I'm sure they'd love to show their data, but they aren't.
If so many keys are revoked and fraudulent, I'm sure the devs would love to show their data, but they don't.
If you're going to accuse someone, you better bring proof first, nigger.

How could they if they would need to know which keys are stolen in the first place, when devs refuse to submit that info because it would be "too much work".

Is that picture actually real? If so, can you point me to the source?

Developers recognize that people buying the game on G2A are legitimate fans of their games that simply didn't know about the situation or didn't have the money to buy the game at full price. They don't want to punish fans of their games.

G2A is a perfectly legitimate business just like ebay, if indie devs don't like it they should stop creating keys to sell on third party sites just to try to squeeze out a little extra profit for themselves

no shit, why or how would g2a even deal with chargebacks from other storefronts in the first place

>manage to get a stolen CC
>spend it on steam keys of all things that probably get revoked before they're being sold
If someone really does this I'd assume they're too dumb to get their hands on a credit card in the first place.

nope, can't say that for certain

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>I like how Kinguin somehow flies under the radar during these discussions
You mean Kinguin and like a hundred other key resellers? For some reason people only bitch about g2a, while any other website where users can submit their own keys for sale can have the exact same problems.

Kinguin is a grey area seller abusing price differences. G2A is built upon direct scamming and is more "black hat".

White hat resellers would be greenman gaming.

>greenmangaming
That's not gray market ya donut.

But how do people even get the keys (((illegally))) if the only way is directly from devs/publishers

Sweet Jesus my dick

the difference is that if you sell stolen products on ebay, your account and address gets blacklisted and if the police are involved ebay will give them all your information.

As far as ebay goes I've had problems more with the people that have many ratings and high scores than the people with very few ratings.

Then they'd cry about steam gifts undercutting them like the one dev just a week ago who can't understand that his game is cheaper in some places then others thanks to different currencies.

Couldnt i just buy a whole buncha keys with my own credit card, sell them to g2a, and then have my cc company chargeback on my purchase of the keys? This would lead to the same revokation, but no credit card theft took place.

Ryan's Johnson twitter.

but it's the only realistic way to deal with the problem. or just remove the key system from steam altogether

You just don't get it, people use stolen credit cards to buy from other websites and then sell the stolen keys on G2A at no point was a stolen credit card used on G2A.

the best solution is for steam to implement a way to check if any single key is still valid and how long has it been since its creation(so that key sellers website are forced to wait 2 days before opening up to sell it), then for developers to ask steam to disable any list of keys on the ground they have been bought with any sort of credit card scam.

i don't get why wouldn't those tools already exist.

>obtain credit card information
>buy game keys with credit card
>sell game keys on G2A

unknownworlds.com/blog/beware-shady-key-resellers-and-discount-steam-keys/

no proof of this happening

>people use stolen credit cards
>no point was a stolen credit card used
Yeah, you're really that stupid.

Good luck faggot. G2A would win straight up if they bought the keys legally.

You can't tell someone they can't resell a product they've bought. Imagine trying to tell people they couldn't resell a hammer to a friend just because the manufacturer said so.

The only reason they even tell you stupid shit like that is because they don't want it to be legal because that means they would have a full monopoly on that product with no one to compete with since no game is alike.

see you really don't know what you're talking about

Yes but that directly implicates you, especially if you do it more than once. Doing it with a bunch of different credit cards (and from different IP addresses) would reduce the chance you get caught.

any business that profits from people using stolen credit card is not legitimate.

Did you just straight stop reading to try and one up him?
Because nothing he said was wrong and you just look like a retard.

>the revisionism does on

A reminder that buying from key sites can cause losses for game developers and is literally worse than piracy.

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g2a is like the biggest employer in my bumfuck town in Poland. They really pay well I know people working there. I remember when they were just a few people kind of thing and now they have like 1000 employees.

They deactivated all keys they considered fraudulent, not exclusively those sold on g2a. They just say "get a refund at the store you purchased this from".

but wheres the proof?

Yes it does directly implicate me, but the end result of key revokation remains the same, so we cannot say for sure that key revokation is evidence of stolen credit cards

And yet they still won't provide these stolen keys for a third party to audit.

This. Someone has to pay for the chargebacks. I will never use G2A, I'd seriously rather pirate.

I don't understand fags who buy from G2A
You could just as well pirate the game and get it for free, rather than giving your money to some europoor country

Yea Forums shills absolutely OBLITERATED
>I-I-I disavow

>only ever used G2A once
>bought Tower Unite to play with friends
>played for a few hours and then never again
>got it for $6
The TU devs don't deserve a cent until they remove the legacy garbage like shops and everything being only available through the lobby.

It's easier and more ethical to just pirate the fucking games.

>s literally worse than piracy.
>I'd seriously rather pirate
>You could just as well pirate the game
Spot the fags that never used a key seller site. "B-better to pirate than buy a key for cheap", yeah, sure.

>implying they don't work harder than the devs

Unless it's an online game, like Killing Floor.

But how do people even buy keys if the devs have to generate them

I'm still waiting for any evidence of that shit happening. And be it a simple bank statement that chargebacks happened.

for me? its cdkeys.com

cute birb

cdkeys.com is an official reseller so the devs actually see your money.

>spend money is better than not spend money
I really can't understand your argument

so that twitter fuck just cost someone their job?

>it's better to pirate than buy a game for cheap if you're looking to purchase it
I can't understand yours either.

Thanks for the heads-up. Will use another seller then.

>europoor country
Not even that. They pay their taxes in china.

This is genuinely pathetic but its nothing we didnt know already.

>>thief makes money, gamestop makes money, original owner of game loses
So, the new buyer aka me doesn't lose anything? Fine for me.

But if people are committing fraud why are they buying fucking video game keys of all things

Except it does happen. And when it does everyone tells them "you should have known" and it was their fault. Which it is.

It's like when pawn shop owners cry about having their stolen goods taken away. You knew the risks when dealing with thieves.

>literally hiring shills is good now, because it's people we like out of contrarianism!

The money doesn't go to the dev either way
So I would rather just spend my money on onaholes and furry comissions

Except he (you) contradicted himself within his own sentence. But nice try, better luck next time.

It's like taking candy from children, except the candy is their parent's credit card.

Good, fuck game devs

Some number of the keys are stolen, but it's far less than the publisher/dev would like you to believe. It costs them money to deal with chargebacks, so they'd like to lump the entire grey market in with that to stamp out the small % that's actually hurting them. What they don't want to talk about is that the grey market itself exists because they're generating and selling their own keys to bypass paying Steam their 30% cut (which includes things like handling security and chargeback fees). They've created their own problem, but want to have their cake and eat it too.

Why would the developer lie?
They are buying the keys for full price with stolen CC, and the end party is buying it for a reduced price, so it acts like a sale that still gives them full price. If there are no mass chargebacks then this system would be extremely profitable for the developer.

>still waiting for any proof whatsoever

why won't they post proof?

>The money doesn't go to the dev either way
It does if the key was purchased legally, which it is in 99.9% of cases even on g2a, despite you niggers crying about it. Where do you think the keys come from so the devs don't get the money, thin air?

Steam is such a garbage platform. At least under Epic I won't have these problems.

Considering that the descendants dev didn't understand the difference between steam key and steam gift I'm not surprised that they might not really know what they're even complaining about.

No wonder all the developers are going to Epic.

>reselling key
>reselling
>something that is already bought and sold to another
>it is already bought
and there we go, the dev has already recived their money. argument closed

So G2A can refund them now and give itself a pat on the back? for adressing the issue? It's too late now, they've been dismissive in the past. Now they suddenly care once the whole thing blew up. Fuck off.

nigger I pirate every game that has ever been on epic games store and ever will, what the fuck do you think

>i could post proof but i won't!
got em

>g2a selling yet another developers game without permission
>this is fine btw :) free market

Chinks are subhuman.

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faggot
lmgtfy.com/?q=g2a never sent key

hundreds of threads "I got ripped off by a thief from g2a :("

think about it you low-intelligence twat. what business could possibly make money by buying something for a higher price than they sell it?

Where did the keys come from?

Not that poster user. But it's really possible someone missed those threads you know.

>The money doesn't go to the dev either way
>the dev has already recived their money
Which is it, cunt?
Yes, the key was pre-purchased so that I can get it for cheap, so? Why would I pirate the same game if I can get it cheaper and benefit from online functions and regular updates on Steam?

your grandmother's credit card that someone phished

The only people that it's currently beneficial to is G2A. Why would they? Better to see g2a sperg out on twitter and send shills here.

Your ashes when a nuke vaporizes your chinkroach corpse

>think about it you low-intelligence twat.
You may think for a bit too, nigger - what kind of business stays afloat for selling HUNDREDS of faulty products, seemingly to everyone's knowledge?

>What they don't want to talk about is that the grey market itself exists because they're generating and selling their own keys to bypass paying Steam their 30% cut (which includes things like handling security and chargeback fees).
Valve don't really let you bypass their 30% cut. Valve keeps track of how many copies of your game they sell themselves vs. how many copies use redeemed codes. If they don't like the ratio they stop generating keys for you. Most of these problem keys are either given away to streamers and shit or put into super cheap bundles. The devs aren't really making a lot of money from them even when things go right.

A goy born every minute.

>>hundreds of threads "I got ripped off by a thief from g2a :("
>meanwhile it's just 35 hits
>still no proof from any dev that they had keys stolen
>just from a handful of retards buying keys that didn't work for who knows what reason
Still waiting for that proof, you low-intelligence twat.

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You think I give a shit whether it's legal or not?
It's cheap, that's what it counts.

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>wants to give dev money
>admits that buying keys is not supporting the dev
your argument has fallen with mine

No having any proof from devs helps g2a and makes the devs look like temper tantrum throwing children who can't understand that their game isn't worth as much as they want it to. All it would take was for them to show the keys that were revoked or that a chargeback happened to to give themselves the legitimacy they claim they have.

>g2a stealing from yet ANOTHER developer

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Smaller transaction fly under the radar more and you instantly get your product.
Can't buy something like a $1000 Macbook and sling it before the person whose card you're using catches wind of it.

Sounds to me like the one and only case that matters (Supreme Court case) supports my position more than yours. Appellate and district court decisions don't mean dick when compared to a Supreme Court decision and in fact, they are usually heavily biased which is why the 9th Circuit has the nickname "Nutty 9th" because every case that comes to them gets ruled on as if it were a California trial court case despite the fact that they preside over several states of differing beliefs.

I'll give you that the legal stance remains somewhat unclear but that's only because digital vendors want it that way so that they are your only source or chance at getting a product. Every merchant would fucking kill for that opportunity because it means they can control the prices completely but we have precedent that monopolys are not to be entertained in the US.

that's fine but they shouldn't expect people to believe them until they do

>Better to get it cheap than get it for free!

how about people getting their keys that they bought on keysites revoked on regular basis?

It's essentially pirated software/licenses that you pay for. If you don't want to appear idiotic, you should.

>Someone uses a stolen credit card to buy a Key
>Sells the Stolen Key on G2A
>No Credit Card information is used on G2A so the Credit card itself hasn't been used on G2A
No I just think you're retarded.

I bought a game off G2A once, thinking it would be straightforward like any other retailer, e.g. steam

No, it isn't. My CC info was stolen and someone from eastern europe racked up over $700 worth of charges on it.

Won't touch these 'grey market' sites ever again. Even an overpriced shitty AAA game bought by mistake is better than being defrauded hundreds of dollars buying a game at half price from these people.

>keysites revoked on regular basis
You gonna post the handful of reddit threads again?

You can't pirate online games, though.

If I don't give a fuck about devs and actively want them to suffer how do I buy safely on G2A?

Do they still have the shield scam?

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>but that's illegal!
wow great argument. illegal shit has never been sold before. some people get ripped off, some people get their stolen keys regardless because the credit card company wasn't pursuant enough

try g2a key invalid, smugposting faggot
>"UHMB, WELLL, deyr all fake posters obviosuly! PROOF PROOF PROOF where duh proofs!?!?"
retard

>wants to give dev money
I never said this, retard. I said that I might as well get the game cheaper if I'm looking to buy it. Good luck pirating TESO or something, too.

Why not just pirate then?

I got you senpai
thepiratebay.org/
skidrowreloaded.com/
nyaa.si/

You can turn that shit off.
Or just buy elsewhere, i've used Kenguin and Instantgaming and never had a problem with those.

So if the keys are stolen, how are they making fucking bank on it and how do my keys from like 5 years ago still work on steam? It's a Polish company, not chinese, by the way, they just have an office in hong kong just for show.

Now you're just repeating what I said before. Well done retard, you just played yourself.

>does not want to give the dev money
why don't you just pirate or emulate it?

I want multiplayer games.
Is Kinguin fairly reputable? Do they have any scummy shit?

Spotted the shill

Notice when somebody complains about G2A, it's always some literally who guy, creator of literally what game?

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>now the goalpost moving has begun
Yeah, where's the proof? Anecdotal evidence never counts and for good reason. And it would be so damn fucking easy to provide said proof from the devs yet the refuse to do so whenever they get pushed for it. Funny how that works, eh?

I dont want to be rude, but if you get your cc info stolen you honestly deserve it

noone is talking about that. who gives a fuck if you buy from a thief rather than fuckin activision or whatever, it's just about smaller games that could use the support.

>"headquarters" located in hong kong as a legal shelter

No, they just complained once because I put a fake adress in my account that consisted of just the name of the city.
Had to make a proper fake adress to solve the thing.

Online games can't be pirated.

It's always amazing to me how retarded software developers are. You don't need authorization from the manufacturer to sell products if you aren't claiming the manufacturer is endorsing it.

I can buy a 100,000 water bottles today from Costco and resell them all for $5 a piece if people buy it and the manufacturer can't do shit to stop me.

WARNING G2A IS SHILLING IN THIS THREAD

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No you still are a retard because you seem to think his argument hinges on the fact that Stolen Credit cards are used on G2A and not that G2A lets the people stealing the keys get away with it which is what I and the other guy was saying.

Who cares about the support?
Wnat support?
Make the games cheaper on Steam.

You are one enormous retard. It literally only takes a single employee at any establishment you've ever purchased something from to get it stolen. It's just a bunch of numbers. It's not like it uses your DNA for every transaction.

>even redditors are more savvy than most of the people currently ITT defending g2a
sad. I thought 4channel was more intelligent, but I am proven wrong again.

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5 years ago they bought keys with steam 4pack deals and sold them individually. chargebacks started when steam axed 4pack deals.

the only ones who are letting them get away with it are the people who sold the key to begin with and don't disable it if that is the case

It's literal shills doing damage control

>now he (you) pretends again to be another user
Thanks for repeating what I said in the beginning. I doubt you really understand it, but at least you seem to think it.

reddit, go back

>the company being owned entirely by the chinese is just for show
Sure thing chinkroach. Might as well slice your throat open and end your pathetic life while you are at it.

They've literally responded to this by basically saying "If they don't do it here, they'll just do it somewhere else."

Kinguin is the same as G2A. I only know that GMG is legit.

>source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source source
go away

Nowhere else can really push the numbers that Steam can, so it would be very rare to run into issues there. The keys have to come from somewhere, and far more have to be legit than stolen. These businesses wouldn't be sustainable this long if every single purchase on them was like a 20% chance of being a stolen key and getting it disabled. It's an ideal place for stolen key sellers to slip in whenever possible, precisely because they're surrounded by mostly legit business.

If the devs didn't generate keys to sell, then the only keys on these sites would be stolen, and the shit would dive into the ground overnight. Their greed is causing their own problem.

>journos attackin a marketplace
>attacking a market
>attacking the FREE MARKET
AAAAAAH you did it now FUCKING journos you broke the NAP prepare to be relocated off world

>i read something i don't like
ok

GMG is too expensive and don't give a fuck about the devs being supported, I want multiplayer games 75% off.

Will Kinguin slip shit in like shield and do they refund if the key doesn't activate.

Why would you give your credit card to any strange website online?
Buy a prepaid card or use paypal

>I am a litreally G2A employe
ok

does anyone here actually legitimately buy keys and resell them on a site like G2A? how do you make a profit by doing that, do people just sell keys they don't want from bundles or wait for big discounts and try to sell them for a marginal profit later on after the discount ends?

Good thing you have a single digit IQ to eat up that shit.
Go try and sell water on the street, the cops will be on your ass before you can make a single sale.

g2a is great for buying games from publishers i hate because i know my money is going to some thieving slav instead of ea or bethesda

>I don't make any money from EARLY BACKER keys
>already made money

And this is what happens once a shill has to go off script.

I bought Shadowbringers yesterday for $28 from a key site and I don't give a fuck
Suck my dick, discord trannies.

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Why not just pirate it and get it for free

True. I'd rather pirate the game than buy an epic key. So I guess they're getting what they want.

I mean, you got people like John Waters and you got guys like Tommy Wiseau

combination of online features i desire access to, and overwhelming laziness

shoulda pirated it
you're actively supporting China therefore actively against USA
that's a federal offence, see you in prison

You are doing the Yea Forums equivalent of paying for fansubs

Eceleb said theyre bad so now we love them

That's not the same. The poster you are replying to is retarded, but your example is bad.

>buying stolen keys
Just pirate you idiots

The money goes to a rich fuck atop all of it, the taxes go to chinese, and regular working slavs live on 500 euro wage.

You buy them from russia and G2A pays you a lot because they can sell it for a USA price

The taxes go to HK which has like a zero tax rate you zoomer.

Easy you buy high and sell low

Why does this even matter. I input my CC info into shittons of grey sites to buy cheap keys and nothing's ever happened to me. If someone steals my info and buys shit with my card I just report it and get my money back in a day lmao.

But ecelebs love g2a. Devs give ecelebs codes to promote their games and they just sell them on g2a instead.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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Won't be long now until these moronic saps try to go after other sites that sell keys.

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Whoa some random ESL retard did something stupid. Very important.

>Chainlink fag spotted
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Its been known for years that people sell stolen keys on G2A. Its mostly a safe site to use if you stick to major resellers who have good feedback, but it definitely happens.

That doesn't work. Search "region restrictions steam gifts" to pull up the steam page. Yea Forums won't let me link it because Yea Forums is retarded.

Because I was under the mistaken impression that G2A was just like any other shop.

No, it's basically a bunch of criminals and you have to jump through hoops to make sure you don't get fucked over and even then you can still get fucked over.

>Yea Forums: buying used games from gamestop is stupid either support the devs or save your money by pirating
>also Yea Forums: buying keys from g2a is great if you don't like the website you're a shill

They cant. The other reselling sites are entirely based in china.
g2a they can hurt because they have an office outside of it

Fuck you, Mike
I'm going to buy some games on G2A now, mate

Was getting caught part of their plan?

I work retail, niggers with stolen credit cards buy Visa gift cards, cartains of cigarettes, and Redbull, in that order. They aren't going to flip video games.

it seems no one is suing or pressing charges or anything though, just writing kotaku articles and tweeting

No fuck denuvo?! Wtf lad

tranny how do you get games?

Let us know how suing a chinese company goes for you.

>g2a they can hurt because they have an office outside of it

This is the natural fallout of using a service like Steam. At least Epic games won't have this problem.

I thought those guys were buying hundreds of my free generated steam keys at a discount because they really like my game.
I didn't know they were going to resell them on me!.

>At least Epic games won't have this problem.
yes because it will never have customers lmao

Let's go, the G2A shills are defeated!

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and?

Some of you people astound me
>"No want to buy game rich man get money"
>"Haha me pirate because cheap and rich man don't get money"
>"NO WAIT, I GOT IT, I buy g2a key, piss off rich man, AND spend money"
How much of a fucking retard do you have to be to willingly spend money on something that is legit worse than just pirating it just to "spite publishers"
How insanely retarded are some of you?

Yea Forums is for contrarians
everyone hates G2A so obviously Yea Forums loves G2A

They don't resell keys, they provide a market for people to resell their goods, it'd be like taking Ebay to court over if you can sell your dresser.

It's Yea Forums so very.

I bought a game off G2A once, thinking it would be straightforward like any other retailer, e.g. Steam

Yes it is. I payed, I got the game, game is good

Yea Forums's full of dipshits who'll gleefully shoot themselves in the foot if they think they're "sticking it to those tranny SJW corporate shills" by doing so.

Why would anyone ever use credit-cards at all?

It doesn't matter if you give your money to Bobby Kotick or his slighlty poorer scamming slav cousin.

yes it does

Why do they generate steam keys and sell them third party if they don't want to see third party sales?
If they didn't try to cut Steam out while still using their service they would have full security coverage from Valve.

if you don't buy the game you can't access the online features unless you do some hamachi mumbo-jumbo and settle for a smaller playerbase
it's also more convenient to pay. people LOVE paying for convenience, it's just like Gaben said in that interview long ago. piracy is a service problem.

to own the libs

Where can I even sell my old Humble Bundle keys now? You have to register as a fucking business if you're going to sell keys from the EEA

First Sale Doctrine is illegal for non-corps

say a dev sells 10k copies of a game for $5. say 2% of those games were bought with stolen credit cards. that's 9.8k legit sales for $49k and 200 chargebacks that cost $30 each for -6k profit. so even a 2% fraud rate reduced their profit by 12% and can cause them to lose their credit card processor. even a small number of scammers can fuck over a developer.

it's zoomers who are literally too stupid to install a game from an .iso

they buy games during sales and then resell the key

Too bad they are all too busy to prove it since they can get reimbursed ten times over for any they can prove.

say a dev sells 10k copies of a game for $5 and decides to put his game on a bundle which requires 10000 keys upfront and then his game can be unlocked for $1. someone decides to buy 1000 keys of his game from this bundle, and then sell those keys at $2 on g2a, with 100% profit. at no point in this situation are stolen credit cards required, just someone willing to risk 1000 dollars to make 2000 dollars and sell someone's game at a constant 60% discount. the personw ho made the mistake was the developer in the first place for devaluing his game on the bundle so much. the MAJORITY of keys from g2a come through from stuff like this. stolen credit cards, steam gifts and so on are a minority

People simply need to learn that devaluing your brand happens to digital products just the same as physical.
Running sales are never as cost free other than the temporary profit per unit as you would like them to be.

They scam people into weekly subscriptions

>stolen credit cards, steam gifts and so on are a minority
the entire point of the comment you replied to was that even a minority of cases can fuck a dev over. did you even read the post or do your eyes glaze over when you try to read something longer than a twitter post?

>$20 fee
This is ridiculous.

>tfw just bought Ace Combat 7 Deluxe for 25 bucks yesterday on G2A while paypigs will pay full price

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im simply saying that things are more complicated than "credit card fraud". even taking his post into account, there's a reason why stores like steam charge developers a 30% fee: dealing with things like chargebacks is hard. developers who both want to run their own stores and also attach steam keys to their games (circumventing valve's 30%) are learning that they have to pay their 30% for a reason.

>bragging about paying for singleplayer games

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>its literally a multiplayer game
cope harder faggot. ill buy from g2a and cdkeys until the day I die

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>(circumventing valve's 30%)
is there even proof that this actually happens? if you buy a steam key in a box from a physical store is the dev "circumventing valve's fee?"

im an indie dev and valve charges nothing for generating steam keys. if you sell a game outside of steam and attach a steam key to it (which is what all other stores do and what all indie developers do), then youve avoided paying valve 30% while giving the buyer a steam key so they can activate the game on steam. valve allows this i imagine because it keeps people on their platform and their costs for delivering game downloads is negligible compared to other stuff

You can generate steam keys up to a certain amount that you sell third party that valve gets no cut of, but they also provide none of their security and assurance features for.

This is also why they can't provide evidence of these stolen keys and chargebacks they claim is so rampant.
The devs already provide their keys in many places at such a deep discount that if you are going to go through the trouble to stealing credit cards there are much more profitable things to buy and people already can make good money off third party keys without breaking laws.

key selling sites like humble bundle are the ones selling keys to people using stolen credit cards, they should be the ones taking the blame and paying the difference to the developers not G2A

Someone has to pay for the chargebacks, user. You didn't seriously think that the bank will pay out of its profits?

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Anubis when?

Shut the fuck up G2A/humble bundle shill.

Just wait till all those purchases get a chargeback from the card owners who were ripped off and you're left with less money than before they were purchased.
It'll REALLy be a bad day then.

10x the profits!

I've seen less people get upset over outright piracy than with using G2A

t. someone who has used G2A in the past and hasn't had a game revoked yet

>valvetards: Based Steam! They don't have exclusives because you can sell your keys on any platform despite having to still use Steam to play the game
>also valvetards: WTF KEY SELLING SITES IS FULL OF SCAMMERS, ALWAYS BUY FROM STEAM
I honestly cannot wait for Epic to run the fat kike gabe out of business.

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Show proof. Or else it's not true.

I've used G2A for 7 years
only one time was my key revoked and that was for Escape from Tarkov
I'm kinda mad but the game was pretty shit so I wasn't going to get a refund anyways

>it's zoomers who are literally too stupid to install a game from an .iso
This. I absolutely hate the "steam" generation of PC Gamers. They can't even handle DOS let alone figure out what an .iso is.

here are some keys i generated for my game for an indiegala bundle that ended up not moving forward

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partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

What's funny here?

>devs use globalism to produce games as cheaply as possible to sell it to you

>it's wrong for you as a consumer to use globalism as a tool and buy cheap keys from some slav shithole country

explain why

>steam doesnt let me gift friends in other regions
>buy keys from G2A regularly just to gift friends now
>have the bonus of bankrupting indieshits and making AAA jews seeth for losing 3$ in chargeback fees

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I don't think you know what globalism is.

hes not mandem hes just a plastic gangsta innit... bloods... lmao what a gayboy... ill knock his nan out stiff

>bankrupt indies
>om steam
?

OH NO SOME SJW INDIE DEV IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF G2A, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING Yea ForumsROS HOW DO WE STOP THIS????

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ESL?

it's outlined literally in the public steam agreement

I had mine minecraft key revoked because back in the day notch didnt accept my country's currency, and i had to buy from a reseller.
Not sure if the keys were stolen or not, but i got a new one after sending an email complaining.

bankrupt implies debt.

>food analogy

It's not wrong, as a customer you have every right to seek out the cheapest avenue possible.
If anyone calls you out on it call him a jew kike sockputter and a corp bootlicker because that's what he is.

So it's the indie devs that are complaining that are the ones abusing the goodwill of Valve that currently has almost no checks to these free keys?
Are other devs angry about these idiots that might eventually lead to them losing a source of pretty much free money?

most indie devs continually take valve's goodwill for granted, and they also happen to be the loudest ones on twitter capable of creating these kinds of dramas. but i dont believe that valve would remove the ability for developers to generate keys because it benefits them a lot

I DON'T CARE.

People sell roses and fruit on the street here in Murica all the time you negative IQ retard. That shit is only an issue in Europe in major cities where your peaceful population additions sell their knock off purses.

Not to mention I never mentioned street vending. You could do exactly what I stated in your own store.

SO WHY ARE YOU HERE? AND YELLING.

u faggots will belive in anything

I'm not a Jew.

Why does G2A care?

like this is their fault xD
dilate

>White website sells stolen codes
>Wow, those people are criminals
>Asian website sells stolen codes
>Wow, chinks are subhuman
???

>Reselling is breaking the law
maybe in your retarded country

>pirating an mmos expansion
REALLY makes me wonder how stupid these posters really are

As long as publishers and developers like EA continue to fleece customers for all their worth, as long as people like Harada shit on established franchises with their greedy taint and internal politics, as long as companies like Ubisoft are clearly too concerned about agendas rather than fun games, I will continue to pirate and use G2A without a single fucking modicum of guilty or remorse.

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Somehow I doubt you're buying EA games in the first place.

Don't know about US but it is perfectly legal to resell games in my country.

I bought Mirror's edge Catalyst when none of you other fucks would. Eat shit

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and they still CAN process credit cards?
Bullshit.

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I bought BF4 and Battlefront 2, $10 for each.

I never used shield and never had any problem.