How actually fucked are these guys?

How actually fucked are these guys?

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>2019
>OW is a literallywho game
>WoW is geriatric tier at this point
>no one cares about Warcraft
>Hearthstone has negative player count
>Starcraft is dead and buried
>Heroes of the Storm is dead
They are absolutely fucked.

Their games literally print money and all the normies love them.
Contrary to what Yea Forums believes, Blizzard isn't dying or anywhere near that.
Unfortunately.

Hiring women and minorities is more than okay obviously but Christ this whole thing literally just sounds like a diversity quota (but they promise that's not what it is xD)

They are fine, they are the normie machine. Too big to fail and held up by the backs of a thousand brainless normies.

perhaps but probaly a grade or two less than they used to

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If Classic fails, very.

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Sadly not fucked at all. Millions of loyal blizzdrones and females will still gobble everything up they shit out.

This reads like we're in some different fucking reality. Why are people offended by everything now.

Id like to know what are all those people actually doing. There is absolutely zero effort visible on any of the (still) existing titles.

so this is the power of women and minorities...

If this is their top news I asume they are doing great. fucking lol

Some day some psychopath will shoot up their offices, hopefully

fun fact, it's always about a quota

who needs money, great craftmanship or success when you can have the moral highground

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If it hasn't happened to EA or even actually important things like all those lovely banks that ruined millions of lives, it won't happen to Blizzard.

>interns
Meh that's pretty much nothing desu.

because we're getting glimpses of a matriarchy and what that looks like as opposed to a patriarchy.

>interns

>Starcraft is dead and buried
source? i play sc2 and 1 and i don't feel it is dying at all...

Hi, 8gag!

Blizzard yes!

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That's how.

>launch game
>unplayable
>launch different game
>unplayable
>close battlenet

I think I'm done til D4, just to laugh at how bad it is and wait for it to be $20 + DLC

Never giving them another pre-order after the travesty that was D3 at launch.

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>the more females the shittier the company
rly makes u go hmmm

because

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bitches love making coffee

people here base popularity off twitch viewership despite claiming to hate the mainstream

damn.. it hurts to look at this.

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when was it released? did it have a follow up? no, right?

>10.000 employees in 2018
damn

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wtf is this

Not fucked at all.
The fact is, the blizzcon "fiasco" wiht Diablo Mobile Edition proved they're doing perfectly fine.

Only hardcore idiots go to the Blizzcon unless you're a "journalist" who has to go there.

The fact that the hardcore fans react with "oooh no, mobile is bad" shows Blizz is doing right - the fucking rest of the 99.9999~% of their fans are going to get that on mobile to play it.

They're doing perfectly fine.

It's good having the highground only problem is the fall from it is going to kill the Blizzard.

they aren't fucked there are still hordes of retards that buy and play their games

They are doing great.
They just shift from one audience to another.
Its just us who they don't cater to anymore so we feel left out.
But mobile casual gamers and chinese will love it and that's all that matters nowdays.

They'll be Zynga 2.0 making nothing but mobile games for Chinks and Gooks in 4 years tops.

>"""""just fine""""""

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Thus they fell, willingly.

My company does close business with Activision-blizzard. Always fun to read these threads. Most of it is true. But no, they're not dying. They continue to write the checks to us and are never late.

*AHEM*

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activision blizzard is still seeing an increase in revenue every year

NO NEGATIVITY IN THE DOJO

classic is already dead, twitch killed it

NO DON'T SAY IT

wow their budget is at an all time low

For the moment they're doing fine, really well even.
But it's clear that there's only a bunch of incompetent retards left working there and they're just rolling on brand recognition and looks alone. If you take a look at the official forums and how the community reacts to things it looks like even hardcore Blizz fan are starting to become disenfranchised with this company because of all the retarded shit they're trying to pull off, like the latest WoW xpac being trash, their esports fiasco or the Diablo announcement when they basically shat down the throat of every Diablo fan in existence. I'm amazed that such a giant company that used to make such good games is so awful at creating anything enjoyable these days, resorting to cheap nostalgiabait.
So they're turning to the chinks, the lowest common denominator, to ensure that they'll keep thriving. They aren't fucked yet, but I hope I'll get to laugh on their grave someday.

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>mfw I bought Activision stock in Aug 2018 thinking the mobile announcement would make normie investors excited because it has the word "mobile" in it

Just look at this picture

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FUCK WOMEN AND FUCK DIVERSITY HIRES

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I've said this in other threads but they're basically completely fucked. Blizzards issue is that ever since the beginning their development strategy has been to take other peoples work, iterate on it successfully and market it well. They originally started out doing ports and they ended up (metaphorically) doing ports with MTG etc. Everything in their catalogue basically iterates on something else that already existed, wow, warcraft, starcraft, hearthstone, hots, overwatch.

The fundamental problem is two fold. a) All blizzards major products are at the effective end of their lifespans and they have nothing to replace it with because they have developed nothing new. WoW is on life support, Diablo is completely trashed after D3 and Diablo: Mobile, Hearthstone is drying up and Overwatch doesn't seem to have had the longevity they expected and pushed for, Starcraft and real time strategy games are basically a dead genre.

b) Blizzard is too big and has accrued too many inefficiencies to work well, there is a great anecdote about shade of aran in kharazan if people care to look it up. This is a problem because their whole strategy of ripping off others work doesn't succeed when they're slow and the whole speed of the industry has accelerated. They were talking about Diablo being a Dark Souls rip off allegedly but even if true would've come out way too late, by this point the market is already over saturated for example.

Everyone always forgets these guys are conjoined with Activision now. The Blizzard of old doesn't exist anymore.

>there is a great anecdote about shade of aran in kharazan if people care to look it up.
What do you mean? About how the fight was developed or something? Have never heard of anything like it.

you forgot:
>Diablo is a mobile game

>they're doing fine
Every single one of their titles is at the worst they've been, SC2 and HotS are on life support, Hearthstone and WoW are barely surviving because of the mouth breathing addicts who can't let go, Diablo 3 might as well be shut down at this point because it's not making them any money. All their veterans left with the only remaining bastions being asswats like fucking Tigole and Ian who treats fun as analytics, their entire staff is override by numales and females who need to keep their ovulating cycles under control and don't care about the games at all, How is the companny doing fine at all?

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b a s e d

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We already knew that with South Korea.

>barrel isn't even straight
Even cardboard swords can do better.

based.

Yeah, the developer of the encounter once did a big retrospective about the fight. He talks about how to get the fight developed you had to go through X different parts of the company and get all these different approvals. You had to have lines written, then approved, then recorded etc. Interestingly he talks about how Flame Wreath (i think that's what it was called) was bugged and never behaved how it was intended (which is what lead to the flame wreath song / meme). He wanted to change it but Blizzard basically said it would take a whole patch cycle for the behaviour to be changed and it was too late by that point so it was staying.

How come investors aren't making a huge stink about diversity hires instead of hiring the best people?

forgot to mention, lootbox ban being the nail in the coffin for Overwatch making them any more money at all

I will never fucking get shit like this, all blizzard has to do is fucking listen, theres no conflicting opinions in their games communities other than the dumbasses who eat actual shit.
They just need to listen and they will gain a ton of popularity, why the fuck don't they does someone at blizzard get off to watching the wow sub count drop?

Because they themselves are fund managers using other people's money, and speaking against diversity will get you fired and unpersoned.

>blaming womemes and brown people and not the asshole shareholders and execs that pushes blizzard towards mtx and mass appeal
Porky likes it when the plebs fight amongst themselves

Because the money is still there. Whales are still paying and keeping their shit afloat. They made 4 billions on Overwatch/Hearthstone lootboxes alone, last year.
This is baseless speculation but I think they could encounter a huge problem when the rest of their current franchises die for good, people will just be tired of their shit and stop playing their games at all.
Ah, thank you user (the only link I found on Google wasn't working).
Sounds about right because Blizzard had shit internal management back then, that's one of the reasons why they decided to merge with activision iirc.

That's a really unfortunate photo to go along with that headline

>"Diversity matters first" hires
>Fanboy beta leads
>Rudderless executives leashed to the Activision corporate machine
It's a powder keg. 5-10 years from major collapse.

The OGs tried to save it around MoP's time, but the alleged "true" fans banded together with normies to reject their saving throw. Now they can sleep in the same bed they made with said betrothed normies.

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That's the thing though, those mouth breathers are making sure the company is just fine. WoW probably has the least amount of subscribers since it's launch, but it's more making money than ever because of the people spending money on the cash shop. The same goes for their other franchises like Hearthstone and OW. And they have mobile games in development aimed towards China for every single one of their ip's. As long as there are retards who will spend absurd amounts of money on that shit, they're gonna be just fine.

*trannies

Jesus Christ.

>all blizzard has to do is fucking listen
They know better than the people they mean to sell shit to. This kind of thikning sinks many a studio but these companies tend to not have the ability to recognize consumers as human.

what do you mean? :^)
I don't see a problem

These two aren't mutually exclusive
Diversity hires are arguably as detrimental to a company as money grubbing shareholders

>you think you do but you don't

Nope, in their eyes consumers are just numbers and dollar signs, nothing more.

There are fucktons of conflicting opinions, there's no consensus about anything nor will there ever be, so who the fuck do you want them to listen to? Which random group of fans, or not-quite-fans, do you think will just magically make everything better? Go make your own fucking games, if you're so smart.

Unironically it's lack of religion. Without a formally codified religious observance, the now mostly atheistic left wing west has unconsciously created a new one to fill the gap - complete with angels, demons, and a holy struggle(or kampf, if you will). Realize that humans act out religious type behaviors independently of any specific creed, and this all makes a lot more sense.

t. I don't like religion and I've been an unbeliever all my life.

I think Blizzard got into the holes they dug themselves into precisely because they tried to listen to and please everyone.

This. Their last wave of games basically still managed to ride on their past reputation as a god tier developer and nostalgia for their old games.
I think whatever they come out with next will have lost a lot of that goodwill and could potentially do a lot worse than what they're used to.

>who needs money, great craftmanship or success when you can have the moral highground
you don't see an option where you can both hire more women and still do ^?

w-what's the problem?

>they think women and minorities can actually program
That's the problem

shut up nerd

>What's the matter don't you guys have phones?

>normies
Normies don't care about blizzturd anymore. They almost re-established themselves as biggest normie dev with Overwatch but they fucked it up so hard that even people who don't care about video games managed to spot the issues with it.
Blizzard is whale kingdom now, only kept alive by same bunch of retarded fanboys who have been dumping money in their every game since WoW's release.

Has this been reflected in their releases? Overwatch and Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 aren't exactly "poorly programmed".

>the latest WoW xpac being trash
I thought people liked it more than Legion? I haven't played since wotlk so I wouldn't know though, but it looked more interesting than anything they've done lately.

Those are pre ~2015-2016
They haven't made anything that actually requires programming since the diversity hires. It's literally just reskins and paid skins in every single title of their for the past 4 years now.

Blizzard will probably never really die, they will just shrink down to keeping a few servers alive for overwatch and wow. Then they will continue their miserable existence as a shitty mobile developer studio.

They got dogs now. No time to makes great games

Not at all
>he didn't buy actiblizz stocks some weeks ago and will sell shortly prior to blizzcon
oh right this board is underage

Nah, religious soccer moms are as offended as sjw's when it comes to good looking women in skimpy clothes. The soccer mom is offended because she thinks she can get her son to stop masturbating if suggestive imagery is banned everywhere. The sjw is offended because she's a jealous hamplanet that can't deal with people looking better than abominations.

The real question is where are the actual Blizzard fans these days? Year after year we keep seeing Blizzcon packed with brainless idiots. But where are these people the other 362 days of the year?

Not really. Legion was actually fairly popular. BfA had exceptionally strong opening sales, but they've been bleeding subs pretty hard since.

oh, well then, lets hope they just made som internal changes to encourage women to join and don't force the quota too hard, would be a shame if they turned into bioware

>I think whatever they come out with next will have lost a lot of that goodwill and could potentially do a lot worse than what they're used to.
Warcraft 3 Reforged is their next title, isn't it? The nostalgia will prevent it from failing
Blizzard can't crash, but they are slowly sinking. I predict they will actually split off a Studio or two in the mid 2020s to lessen the impact, until they hit their next major masterpiece.
Blizzard crashing is impossible unless the entire industry crumbles

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attempting to troll FFXIV threads

WHERE IS THE FUCKING RED SHIRT BOI

Zero fucked.

Not in the slightest, people despise BfA. Many people consider the game in the worst spot it's ever been in, and it has the least subscriber amount. Legion was actually pretty well received. BfA just received a big new patch which changed a few of it's core features because they were so garbage, so now it's at least "not trash" which is better than nothing I guess.

I'm not saying SJWs need religion. I'm saying that in the absence of established religion, a certain fraction of the population will spontaneously generate one to act out anyway, even if that religion is nameless and only very vaguely defined. This predisposed fraction then moves aggressively to enforce it, and the cycle begins anew. SJWs are not just jealous hamplanets, they genuinely believe they are saving the world.

Can't we just be friends and get along?

I think the diablo immortal shit might spur them to create a really solid Diablo 4 to rally the fans

With what programmers?

Women and Minorities

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name ONE, (1!) reson why Blizzard won't just copy disney's model and keep flourishing? Yes, us boomers will complain that there's no 2d animation anymore, and that they're sjw or whatever, but meanwhile they'll just be remaking their titles forever and making bank. To the people saying Overwatch is a failure, I don't know how you could consider it that. If they keep making overwatches for the rest of time that have a 2 years lifespan then they'll probably be fine. It won't be a company for us, but they'll be fine.

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As long as it's not rushed. Diablo 4 was already in development, but it was pushed ahead because of the whole Immortal fiasco. If they only release it when it's truly ready, and don't add any micro transactions or a fucking real money auction house, the game should be pretty good. But trusting Blizzard or Activision not to do some shit like that is pretty naive.

If what that guy said about Diablo 4 is true, the game is officially dead.

>But also it was just a joker. please stop bullying blizzard i didn't mean to create such a backlash.

t. red shirt guy on reddit

are you telling me everyone in the old team has jumped ship? Because otherwise, the same programmers who made the last games.

>expecting no microtransactions from blizzard in 2019 especially after seeing the success of PoE's cash shop.
You're in for a surprise man. D4 will be a failure.

Makes sense. We're still seeing the usual moral hysteria directed against media people don't play, only people haven't yet realized we don't need to take these ones seriously either.

>can I bring my dog in for the pic??

Should have been fired on the spot, that’s not the type of retard you want working for you

They're making an OW 2 and hearthstone will survive on whales alone. Those other games will always have a steady userbase and not like they wont make newer versions. You're dumb if you think blizzard is in anyway in bad shape. The diablo thing was a bad pr hit, but beyond this board and upset blizzcucks that will still pay money for whatever is released. I dont think many people noticed.

PoE mostly just sells special skill animations and stuff, doesn't it?

I specifically said that in the very next sentence though.
>But trusting Blizzard or Activision not to do some shit like that is pretty naive.

and special stash tabs. Blizzard is going to milk every feature out of D4 for cash. That's who they are now. No such thing as a finished polished game from them anymore.

Pretty sure it was fake, user. Reads a bit too much like a Christmas wish list.

>No such thing as a finished polished game from them anymore.
they have yet to release an unpolished product

You acted very foolishy. Don't invest in vidya game stock right now, the market is correcting for bad corporate practices.

WoW for the past decade
Diablo 3
HotS

>mfw 2021 and Yea Forumss paranoia over diversity quotas will have been a spook and diablo 4 brings back the gritty artstyle and is a solid product without the auction house crap
screencap this

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Yeah, though I think this is subtly different seeing as a lot of industry higher ups appear to be "born again" converts to this particular faith. When it was violence and satanism, most of the autistic screeching was coming from outside the house. I hold out hope that it's all pretty fragile, and just one or two major american(and very specifically american) successes that willfully disregard the hysteria will shatter the idea that obedience to this orthodoxy is prerequisite for financial success.

>WoW for the past decade
polished product
>Diablo 3
apart from the launch login problems, polished product
>HotS
polished product

not fucked in the slightest? You'll keep buying the shit.

Where are all the female leaders and ceos then?
Nice meme but reality is far from it

This is what you get from "fathers" bailing when they knock somebody up. Can't blame matriarchy when it's literally all there us in modern day

Hiring new people who are distinctly different from the existing company culture upsets workflow and ruins established ways of doing things. Blizz only began to die when they invited newfags who either had sub-par skill or just didn't understand what blizzard was about. Women generally suck and so do minorities.

>guys it’ll all be alright, the continual decline in quality will have all been in our heads, we’re GOING HOME BAYBAAAY
Are you ready for D4 to he focused around ultimates with every character having around four abilities?

Dilate

Dude what. The Actiblizz stock took a deep dive after Blizzcon. Even investors were fucking worried about Diablo:Immortal announcement at fucking Blizzcon and Bobby Kotick had to smoothtalk the bigger ones.
Rumor also has it, that Diablo:Immortal is already done but Blizzard won't release it, because they fucking know what a big PR risk releasing it is right now on top of the Netease diablo clone failing in china already.

>apart from the launch login problems, polished product
it may have been polished in a sense it was not bugged, but the gamedesign was poorly executed and wasn't a lot of fun or engaging - you were better of playing the RMAH instead of killing monsters.

the arcade is cool, but you have to admit that it is till not that popular - Take for example EU arcade during the night - there are about 80-90 people playing around 3am. This may not sound that bad, but if you go to Dota arcade you see that 90 people are nothing in comparison. About sc2 ladder - who plays it in current year?

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that's true, but then you also have to admit since this diversity quota thing started happening recently, that the decline in blizzard's quality of game design (not polish) is not derived from minorities and women being allowed to make the games, I think it's kind of obvious it's the Activision influences, what with the auction house and so on

Pretty fucked. Almost anyone who was large part of the games that made Blizzard what it was are long gone. It's like you too an original Shelly Mustang, and slowly replaced the parts that wore down with Carola parts. After a while you just got a Carola built on a Mustang's bones.

Their stock dropped 7%, if I'm not mistaken.

>Mobile game announced almost a year ago still isn't out
Yeah, they fucked. Most mobile games are made in like a week.

Can't wait for my teammates do dab emote over Diablo corpse which they bought from the Diablo Store for only 9.99$

Starcraft isn’t dead at all my guy
Queue times for ranked are less than a minute and there’s plenty of tournaments going on

Blizzard has enough AAA coders/software enigneers for decades. Just look at omar. The guy locked himself up for 2 months to get the old vanilla database working with the new ramshackle client. The fundamental problem currently is, that besides their art and their engineering, Blizzard has very meddling to appaling personell. Their management just wants to milk whales, their writers have the depth of a magial realm DM, their game designers/ creatives are by the numbers nerds like Ion Holocaustas and to top it off, they're on the diversity kool aid and hire interns/shitter positions with pink haired fatsos or pajeets.

They have yet to even release anything that requires programming since the diversity hires.
>WoW
Bunch of reskinned models and skins for BfA
>D3
Maintenance mode. Literally just changing the season number every couple months
>SC2
Literally nothing but skins
>Hearthstone
New skins(cards), with reused mechanics over and over. Not a single change to the menus or game modes.
>HotS
New heroes that have different models/skins, same old mechanics.
>Overwatch
Literally nothing that requires programming.

I can guarantee you that fortnight has a bigger userbase than the whole of blizzard. Why? Because one of these titles respect their players and the other does not. If you make soldier 76 gay, you have secured that I will not buy OW2. Meanwhile valve made a mobile game that is really fun to play and I can play it both on pc and on the go and it has strategy and everything. TFT and Underlords are going to compete with Hearthstone for mobile players attention and I can guarantee you that Valve has a better image in the eyes of the normal gamer than Blizzard.

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>2017 news.
>2018 news.
>2019 comes along.
>All the news about firings.
>All the news about key people leaving the company. Even the old CEO that was supposed to be on a advisory position after step down bail even on that.
And now blizzard situation is what it is.
Hmmmmmmm.
Really activate my almonds.

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kek

I keep seeing the
>Muh whales
repeated throughout the thread
You know to actually get whales you have to have a viable userbase for them to play with

No whale is going to spend 1k+ to play by himself

The autochess games are on mobile?

yeah, but just saying their game design hasn't been good for a while so when their next product comes out, if it's roughly the same quality it won't be because of the diversity hires, but I promise you that's how ppl will frame it

>This weak blizzard has banned themselves from players' minds.
Good.

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play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.valvesoftware.underlords&hl=en
pretty comfy, but there are some bugs -> mainly the game crashes on my phone in later waves and also the texture quality must be lowered for the game to run well which makes it look like ass.

alternative is: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dragonest.autochess.google&hl=en from the original creators.

autochess(gook version) and underlords are. tft isn't

Mhm and it'll be sweet when the normies realize what a trash heap it was. A flat 0 of all my guildies that played vanilla are excited, does who didn't are hyped. Hmm surely will go well and lets just ignore their incessant cries for modernization. Ion was right and I will enjoy his smug face when people do in fact realize, they don't.

was this really a trailer made by blizz? its not uploaded on their official channel so i dont know what to think

HOW DARE YOU EVEN IMPLY THAT? I am offended by your belief that people are easily offended.

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Your acring as if any of those shitters are in any positiin of power. Last I checked inters are lower than dirt

I want to believe

>don't even want kids
>i'm wiccan
>listen sweetie

fuckin jej

Ofc they didn't, but much like sjw's Yea Forums likes to make shit up just to push their agenda nobody wants

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=COmiz0QAO88

brood war is still active

A lot of people have left Blizzard. There's countless videos of former employees that basically admitted how shit they were treated. Went and found better work at other studios. Blizzard treats all their employees like shit because of their ego. The whole "Say thank you to us for allowing you to work for us!" shit gets old fast and there's tons of better studios out there.

You don't know either? Yh same. Google doesn't seem to know either it's just listing aging men who have been there for a while now
>i-it's still the rando interns fault

based koreans ....

their userbase isn't as cucked as bethesda, probably because of the subscription format, so they have to actually start putting effort into their work soon or they're dead, if they even still can pull it around

Real talk how the fuck does Blizzard still make money?

The amount of costs they accrue through their day to day must be in the millions.
I can't believe that Hearthstone and a nearly 20 year old MMORPG is covering all of that failed cost.

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>nearly 15 mil every month just from WoW subs
hmmm

Ofc they will idiot, its easier to blame women and minority interns than the faceless corp by people who dont even know how it fucking works. Notice how all the info here is off jurno sites and not a single extra bit of knowledge on how a business like actibliz operates.
No need for the think if theres an easier, weaker target no matter how illogical

they efficiently milk the few people they have

they've squandered what reputation they've had to handle their 3 main IPs already. They'll still be able to sell things based on name branding for a little while longer but eventually they'll have to make something good milk everything they have until they go bankrupt

well yeah you idiot, that's kind of obvious

Newsflash retard they all treat them like dirt.or have you only read the blizzard news?
Every single popular game was built on the sweat and blood of the devs with 0 worthwhile compensation

Hearthstone is having all of its streamers sniped by other games, which means that there's no money in it anymore

B u t
w h y

Does WoW have a lot of new players coming in all the time?
What the fuck do people even do after they finish the WoW end game?

What's the point of keeping your sub going?

Same reason why people keep smoking cigarettes or any addiction really.

Why are you even asking then? You know exactly how dumb Yea Forums is

The chinks will bail them out.

It was on the official channel but it got removed

The main thing poe sells is armour sets which are all pricey as fuck, like 45 bucks for armour. I like poe and obviously they need it to survive but it's still pretty ridiculous

>diablo 4 brings back the gritty artstyle

Keep dreaming, they just banned the succubus from hearthstone. Disneyfied everything is here to stay.

I didn't ask anything, I replied to the people talking about diversity hires and made statements about why they're delusional about it

Yes.

Why'd they do that? It was a perfectly serviceable 4/3 2-drop.

reddit

Verily fucked, the only things going in their favor is the expectations of Classic and WC3 Reformed to be good, also hoping for Diablo 4 to be better than 3, graphically and gameplay wise

That same logic applies to atheistic right wingers. I hate the left plenty but don't act like there aren't incels running around telling people to stop having fun and to dilate because they're not creating a white ethnostate

>esport manager was a female
I'm glad she got fired

>Does WoW have a lot of new players coming in all the time?
I quit in cata but resubbed for the end of legion to the beginning of BFA, most of the people I talked to had only been playing since pandaria or just started when legion was launching, very few people from wotlk or back from my experience
>What the fuck do people even do after they finish the WoW end game?
Its set up for eternal grind these days where everything has a chance to drop as a better version of itself, and you have a necklace(was your weapon last xpac) that infinitely eats resources, then theres shit like having more than 1 character and just plain waiting for the next patch
>What's the point of keeping your sub going?
To prove your own stupidity and shit taste by paying a sub for anygame much less wow

>no one cares about warcraft
Faggot, reforged is the only blizzard title some people look forward to, myslef included. Dreading the moment they reveal how they are going to majorly fuck it up.

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Despite all it's flaws in the current iteration, WoW remains at the top position of the western MMO market, there's just no other game that provides a comparable experience with the level of quality Blizzard games provide. They're falling out of touch really fast, but when you're the only one providing the highest level of service it's really easy to keep your audience captive because there's nowhere else to go.

Before you mention rival titles, I can tell you they're all shit in one way or another and people go back to WoW because it plays better, it runs better, and it's not focused on appealing to a niche but rather in giving a suitable experience to anyone who is interested in playing an online rpg.

>see shirt first thing
>"hehe, FU"
>read
>mfw

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FF14 literally beat out WoW

He means they changed the card name/art because you cant have anything mildly sexual existing these days

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nu-Blizz are pretty based in my eyes.

twitter.com/ZerinaX/status/1145888080169074689

it didn't and content was cleared in 1 week. Now you have to wait 4 months to get anything.

>Dreading the moment they reveal how they are going to majorly fuck it up.
nobody tell him

Well, that's dumb. Who wants to make a demonic past with a shitty felstalker?

It did and there's such a limit on servers that you literally cannot create a new account atm

>Christina Mikkonen
Unf.

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>twitter.com/ZerinaX/status/1145888080169074689
LOOL seething women. She was fired because she was shit at her job.

>Blizzard are going to find a way to fuck up WC3R
can't wait.

This was always my biggest gripe trying other MMOs after wow
None of them match how fluid/responsive the game feels, ontop of other shit like invisible walls and zones being corridors being really fucking normal

she cute

It's already fucked.
There's a reason why there are no news since they announced it.

user i....

If I had to guess they're trying to get the game's age rating changed.

They fucked it up user

Hope you guys didnt like that old busted story that needs to make way for the new and improved modernized version ;)

blizzard doesnt exist anymore

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Aren’t the night elf females fully clothed and the story being rewritten to be in tune with nuWoWs lore? It’s already dead
I get all my info from Yea Forums this could all be wrong

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Dead to roasies means its not watched on twitch.

Apparently tekken 7 is also a dead game

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have you even played FFXIV? it does a fucking great job at alienating new players from liking the game at all, it forces you to slog through the most tedious mandatory main story you've seen in an mmo ever. They're not comparable at all, not to mention the atrocious pvp is also the worst version of pvp in any mmo ever even compared to the gook titles with overpowered cash shop whales feel better than dogshit that is ffxiv pvp.

And still, all they're doing is captivate refugees that can't stand WoW anymore, and are just waiting for something big to happen or fucking classic, FFXIV is a niche title, and it appeals to a weeb audience, not to mention how the content is braindead and you have more fun doing crafting than actually killing mobs.

>but don't act like there aren't
I'm not.
If I had to list all possible examples in order to comment on a particular one, then we'd be here all day. Another quasi-religious sect, for example, is certain populations of self described "atheists". My whole point is that religion is probably more accurately thought of as a cluster of (often) automatic behaviors rather than specific, recognizable, and named institutions.
Frankly I think you sound like a shill pretending at being balanced.

Go to bed Peon

minun vaimo

>I'm not.
>Frankly I think you sound like a shill pretending at being balanced.
I replied to you with that because you said
>the now mostly atheistic left wing west has unconsciously created a new one to fill the gap
Which implied this was just a left thing. Right wingers get offended by minor shit too and think they're saving the world by saying black side characters shouldn't exist because it normalizes diversity and goes against a white ethnostate. If you didn't mean that then my bad, but I know too many people who think that way without applying it to themselves.

Not that user but I cant agree with you more
I bought the game+HW shortly after the xpac dropped for my birthday got through the real story in a few days but couldnt fucking deal with the nonsense after doing the main campaign where its nothing but mandatory filler fetchquest shit
I never even made it to HW area
Also something I want to know someone else might know , is leveling up other jobs just spamming dungeons and doing those random zone events(fates? I think)

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I've played the original campgains a thousand times I dont care if they are going to WoW-ify it. There are bound to be fan made campgains that will be ten times more fun anyway.
I only care about the multiplayer and costum games. Please god I dont ask for much just let me have this one joy.

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Goodluck with that, blizzards policy on mods is that they own whatever you make since they are eternally butthurt about dota
SC2 arcade still had some fun stuff though so maybe you will be in luckyeah right

Looking at her tweets I already know she is an annoying bitch. I'm glad she got fired and I hope she won't get another job in the gaming industry.

>They're doing perfectly fine

i'm sure if you keep repeating it, it will come true

>I HAVE TO READ?!!11?!@32113

>hiring minorities
How can anyone read this without having all of his alarms go off? That's basically the same as "we don't hire white people". There's no logical reason to put minorities before your own native population.

No, they're just really poorly made. Diablo 3 fucking destroyed the franchise.
Though most of those shitty choices came from men.

>Fusion
isn't that the team that was building an overwatch stadium in philly with comcast funding or some shit?
whatever happened to that? is it still happening?

>men.
Jewish men, to be sure.

No it was being forced to do trivial filler which included lots of running back and forth just to talk to faggots instead of actually playing the game
It dropped from a 7 or 8/10 as far as MMOs go to like a 4/10

>Looking at her tweets I already know she is an annoying bitch

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For all you pink wojaks.

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>Which implied this was just a left thing.
I thought it was clear from context that we were already talking about that subset specifically. Especially considering it, at the moment, happens to be the left wing version that's enmeshed with the establishment. I'll be clear: both are fucking loonies as far as I'm concerned. I don't, however, believe it's an "equal opposites" situation with respect to scope and influence. Incels can't possibly compete with Google for cultural clout.

>too many people who think that way without applying it to themselves
Right, I think that's key. Kind of what I wanted to speak to by bringing up "religious" atheists. I don't believe the behavior is limited to "others" who "think differently".

I doubt Peon even bothered trying pvp or crafting. And I'm saying all this while currently playing XIV, the game feels stiff, the ui is dumb with restrictions like not being able to interact with a menu because you have another window open, the MSQ is nothing but fetch quest all over the world until you reach Heavensward, the new races can't wear hats, the viera ears don't even move so they look like a fucking tiara instead of actual ears. There's a ton of things to do to satisfy my autism, but that doesn't justify it's flaws or replaces WoW as a better overall product in the points it excels, just the way BDO has an infinitely better char creator and character controls but it falls short on providing any experience that isn't tied to being AFK the entire day an RNG mechanic or a mindless grind of retarded harmless mobs.

Fates are pretty worthless before 70, I mean you can do a few of them while waiting on the dungeon queue, but I usually just mine or do leves while watching something on a second monitor.

Don't know if fat-fuck-Wilson is jewish, but he deserves to be drowned in liquid feces.

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are they even still around? Haven't heard a peep from them lately

Blizzcon will probably be a thing of the past soon. Not because normies and drones won't attend for ridiculous prices (they absolutely will), but because it's too dangerous a risk to PR. Either that, or it will get heavily sanitized for company announcements and purely become a cosplay con costing $1000+ and alll your personal data to attend.

Normies are the only ones left playing. But they are only a fraction of the playerbase the game had before normies discovered the game.

>6 years late to the assfaggots fad
>still no battle royale
>still no autochess

No, it makes too much money. The fix is easy, too. Audience questions will need to be submitted in advance. Red shirt guy killed live Q&A.

It does say something that Blizzard can't even make a pitch to a room full of people who like their games.

It's submitted beforehand, but when you are at the mic you can say anything.

to add to my prev post.
its going to be pre recorded

Not fucked at all. I'm glad these threads exist to give me things to laugh out. Some people are so out of touch it astounds me

Hire people based on their material qualifications, not their skin color, gender, or political affiliations. Stop trying to be popular, and try to be good. How is that so fucking magically difficult for a multi-million dollar, world famous company? They CAN attract the talent. They don't WANT the talent. They're fucking retarded and it's literally their fault for making did decisions. The guy you replied to is right and you're being deliberately obtuse or you're just fucking retarded as well.

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Leave it to some thin skinned moron to falsely equivocate two sides of an issue everyone can agree on.

>leveling up other jobs just spamming dungeons
Basically yes. You get an experience bonus based on the level difference to your highest job, so it really flies by once you have something at max.

It's because Blizzard leaders are fucking shit, how hard is it to see this? All the good people retired/left and human resources are shit. Blizzard has been in a downfall thats why Morhaime got voted out, now they fired all the useless hacks and trying to rebuild the company.

They're so fucked I don't even understand why we still allow ActiBlizzard threads.

You don't understand. No more mic for the audience because it's too risky. An employee will give the written questions to the panel.

>losing millions of customers is okay and natural
im surprised you are not some sort of multi-millionaire.

seethe, /pol/ incel

>polished product
Polishing a frozen pile of shit won't make it tasty, user.

>spending thousands of dollars to """own""" blizzard
actually that sounds like something their dumbass fans would do

>had the RTS genre in their palm
>threw it away
>had the ARPG genre in their palm
>dropped it
>had the MMORPG genre in their palm
>crushed it
>had the MOBA genre in their palm
>lost it
Blizzard is a joke.

tbqh i literally see one black guy and 5% women

>STILL thinking Blizzard is a fad chaser
This was never true. All their games have ALWAYS been about dumbing down popular genres for normies. Dumbing down an already dumbed down concept with HotS was their one exclusive mistake. They'll never make it again.

What do we have to do to get Blizzard threads blacklisted like Fortnite and other normie games?

>There's no logical reason to put minorities before your own native population.
There is when the government can fine your company to bankruptcy for not having retards in your company. So now the world is about hiring useless fucks and shoving the work load on to the 2-3 guys that actually know what they're doing, causing stagnation, rather then hiring a person who is qualified. Thanks Obama.

Tekken is watched on twitch though?

>ion is literally a lawyer and thinks of mechanics entirely robotically through spreadsheet and data
>can't rationalize why the majority of players do some shit
>can't rationalize why many players log on 2 times a week for maybe an hour total
>thinks giving free gear will solve his problems
>game director

Ion is perfect for his job. The guy is an ex-lawyer so he's good at saying alot without really saying much at all.

Its sad looking at his answers to questions on reddit and the live Q&A's
>Ion do you have plans to fix the eternal Azerite grind? even in patch 8.2 its still bad
>5 paragraph essay dancing around the subject without really giving a solid answer
>I WANT TRANSMOG HEAD PANT FACE
>sure we can do that
>gets pushed out immediately
>azerite armor goes unfixed

>Dumbing down an already dumbed down concept with HotS was their one exclusive mistake. They'll never make it again.
>blizzard learns from their mistakes
>that's why retail wow is so good
Yeah, right.

The real issue with Ion and his lawyer background is actually a reliance on empirical reasoning. He trusts data, but insofar as another source for a series of arguments he collates together as "THE" solution. He's incapable of practical thinking and decompressing multiple points of views. He admits this himself in that PAX keynote he did. Once he made lead, he realized there "weren't many people who could say no to me anymore". Anyone thinking that way becomes a failure point in the creative hierarchy.

its just a corporation making their product twitter proof and also making the scene humorless.

They had the highest number of employees among video game companies in 2018. The layoffs were sorely needed to get rid of useless community and esports staff. I'm convinced shills, too.

More sales per release than any other 15+ yr old game in existence. Repeatable. That can't be denied. Arguing the hard to please niche fans would give them even more support is highly debatable when you look at the drop-off on SC2.

>tfw Red Shirt Guy said Blizz didn't accept his question for this past Blizzcon

>Anyone thinking that way becomes a failure point in the creative hierarchy.
Only if you're not good at creating shit yourself.
>but user, why would the lead designer of a game played by millions be good at it?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>good and succesful are the same
You're an actual autist, aren't you?
Enjoy corn syrup in all of your food, you won't evne need a girlfriend anymore after you've grown tits due to it.

youtube.com/watch?v=7pGLiaj-XVs
was it kino?

It's one thing to comply with government tyranny (though I think they should sue the government), and another to make such a big commotion out of it. Companies LOVE virtue signaling how they want to hire gays, women, minorities, trannies and what else. I don't buy it for a second that they are just victims of government regulation, they wouldn't even blink if the government told them to fire all whites for the sake of diversity, however ironic that would be.

>lack of religion
>implying religious nuts arent uppity and triggered at everything
What. the. HECK.

>dwells on semantics
>calls others autists
cute
good does not fund a company. successful does. seethe all you want, the company's opinion on that won't change.

It's confirmed Kotick already fired a bunch of these worthless women.
The one good thing he's done.

Blizzard died when they closed Blizzard North.
It's been a corpse for a long time.

Most religious people aren't religious nuts.
All modern leftists are completely retarded in regards to gigantic parts of the world though.

Both Ion and Tigole are completly fucked, because they're being hanged by the balls if their respective products don't generate the expected numbers for their investors. Metzen knew the production didn't revolve around creating fantasy worlds you wanted to play in anymore, but rather products that need to maximize sales and get hyped to the max to ensure profitability without bad PR. It's pretty fucking hard to make something you would enjoy, without limiting the amount of people that would enjoy it too, all while keeping a production team generating content.

Lawyers are actually pretty insufferable when it comes to data. They are trained and experienced in winning arguments, not truth seeking. This can make them more, rather than less, vulnerable to assuming their conclusions and bringing data into focus only after the fact.

t. scifag who deals with lawyers (personally, thankfully, not professionally)

>pinup of shaking characters as advertisement
even those fucking hentai games with live 2d have way better animation

>youre generalizing all religious people!!!
>now let me generalize to make things fit my perspective
Youre literally retarded

>Women generally suck and so do minorities
Unironically kill yourself you worthless social outcast.

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No, see that's positive discrimination!

Look, if we're going to play the willful misinterpretation game now then I give up. Congratulations.

No. Normies = Fifa and CoD players. They are the majority. Core gamers might scream the loudest but that's what all minorities do.

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that's true, but don't mix up words

>social outcast
on the contrary, that's nature ie real life
only in media and the internet women are portrayed with some kind of valor

you are the social outcast

>falling for the hating women and minorities meme
Only angry lonely people think this way, outcast.

it's common sense and nature, now tv and internet for some reason want to change reality, but you live either real life or the internet
if you get out of your company or the net you are going to have a bad time

the filler is pretty shit and they need to cut down on it, but it eventually pays off and is more interesting than the main story

>nature
hate to break it to you user but females in nature tend to be more capable than males.

Most games aren't Fifa and CoD though.

hahahaha

>go to like a 4/10
>talking about XIV
subtle user

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keep laughing, see where it gets you

this guy cant even write the names of characters correctly i hope you dont believe all of this shit.
there are some good points in there tho

shit i recall these creeps from Shadowman

lol i cant believe people unironically buy this dogshit greentext

you'd think after a while people would wise up to this
blizzard are fucked but holy shit there are more believable "down the tube" posts out there

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I once delivered food to blizzard HQ and I can confirm everything in that greentext is true. Trust me on this

the filler is pretty shit and they need to cut down on it, but it eventually pays off and is more interesting than the main story

Image is fake as balls

weak bait

you know shits bad when the zoomer fags are remaking a game made by racist white guys 2 decades ago to get cash

Guess what that thing in the red circle is? No, it's not a fin. It's a parasitic male, literally leeching away sustenance from the superior and hard work female, a very common thing in nature.
Males are naturally so inferior in nature that females sometimes have clits even larger than their tiny dicks.

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And most games don't sell like FIFA or CoD, your point ? What really matters for big companies are the big numbers, they don't care about the bazillion small indie games.

>bring back the gritty artstyle
lol

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What ethnicity is this ? They look American but they're so mixed it's hard to tell.

Man, goblins suck.

>warcraft
>same as diablo
stop it you double nigger

this shit is worse in every aspect, doesn't fit the card name at all

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>your point ?
You said it yourself, most people play Fifa and CoD and only grab another game if its good. Considering most games are made for people who don't play primarily Fifa and CoD, even if they are a minority, their screaming matters, cause they are the main customer for these games.
Just because most people like football, doesn't mean its a good idea to change other sports because of it. They are different things.

That's not EVEN A FUCKING FELSTALKER

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WoW Classic will save them

No its not

twitch streamers already killed WoW

to which part

>Diablo 3 not"poorly programmed".
Do you know what killed RMAH? Exploits.

is this one of the changed cards I heard about? Where Blizzard came out and said
>we didn't remove skeletons and blood because of China

I'm having fun with BFA but they're pretty fucked.

I think the downtrend will continue.

It really isn't about China this time though. It's literally because of females and trannies that are upset over tits, thighs, and a little blood.
China has had their own cards forever, these cards are changed for everyone else.

>Blizzard's Diversity Initiative
yep, they're fucked

Chink market.

>WOW subs down 90% from the peak
>StarCraft 2 basically irrelevant
>HOTS dead
>instead of making a new RTS they just hire chinks to remake their old ones
>OWL is totally manufactured, no grassroots interest and is circling the drain
>Diablo 3 is in maintenance mode, best days are over
>Diablo 4 nowhere in sight
>Diablo Immortal killed a huge chunk of their goodwill
>one based lad made the entire company look like idiots
>The only way they can get publicity for OW is by making a character gay

Yea they’re not in good shape.

says the fag who gives a shit about anything blizzard does and gets worked up over anything left-leaning ever

fucking snowflakes the lot of ya

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I wish gaming would get some new blood, like the guys who originally made diablo and warctaft.. But maybe the medium is just too fucking bloated now, they have to sign with some big fucking companies or else they can't make shit or can't compete.

>He doesn't want a kickass demon dog pet

China had their own Hearthstone client plus art for years so it's not because of them.

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This.
My wife's son is a parapalegic and he is really excited about the new mechagnome design. I hope they become playable in the next expansion

>They're making an OW 2
No way in hell, the first one is only a few years old and still gets major content updates. Besides, the playerbase wouldn't be willing to give up their stats, level, competitive rank, cosmetics, etc.

>taking financial advice from Yea Forums
Did you not learn from the /biz/ crash

Except they, and most other companies, are trying to move everything to one client and appease china in general by having uniformity.

>an employee was caught self-harming on his break
>Tracer's gf will die and she will learn to heal by forming a relationship with Widowmaker
>a poc was delighted to work on a game with no white men in it
>McCree is a Soldier 76 clone
>Reaper is gay
>Diablo 4 is being made with the OW engine
>FFXIV is no longer allowed to be mentioned in the offices

Thanks for the nosesnort, OP.

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>still gets major content updates
Umm what? Exact same events every year for 4 years now.

Unironically fucked beyond repair. Blizzard will die a slow death.

you can make up whatever shit you want, Yea Forums will believe it as long as you post it in every single mmo thread

In the past few months they added a new map, new hero, 2 new gamemodes, the workshop, as well as some cosmetics and balancing updates
Jeff also claimed in an interview that the event would be different for the game's 4th year

Well: They are so fucked that they pushed me to play ff14.

Can you imagine? 8 heroes in the span of 3 years.

not really. their games are shit but there are no good games today anyway

>hearthstone still making big dosh
>wow still making some dosh
>overwatch still making some dosh
>every fuckboi is buying warcraft 3
>new WoW expansion soon
>Overwatch 2 soon

They are fine.

>>hearthstone still making big dosh
>>wow still making some dosh
user, I...

Normies gonna play normie games like blizzard and riot. So they are fine I guess. Just look at the twitch view count. Higher the number, higher chance of normies playing them

This honestly, i dunno how a company could fuck up this hard

niggers

>Overwatch doesn't seem to have had the longevity they expected and pushed for

I still have no idea what they were thinking with this game. It looks like a casual arena shooter in every regard, yet they crammed this rigid ESPORTZ model up it's ass anyway. If they'd made overwatch a fun casual TF2 style game it would probably be just fine, but instead it's some unholy MOBA shooter frankenstein.

>the 99.9999~% of their fans are going to get that on mobile to play it.
What's it like being so out of touch with reality?

he may actually be on the payroll at blizzard. having a fluid definition of reality is necessary to succeed in tech

I really want WoW classic to fail so that Blizzard goes into meltdown, but I don't see that happening.
People don't hate the company enough yet. Maybe when more people forgo all Activizzard products going forward we'll see that, but nothing short of that will make it happen.
I find it amusing that so many people are willng to support a company that treats them as badly as nuBlizz does.

They never had the moba market lined up.
HotS was always a weak competitor.

DotA was made on their engine. They let it slip through their fingers. Thats why anything you make in Starcraft 2's editor is blizzard's property

>DotA
Oh fair enough.

I haven’t enjoyed any blizzard games since frozen throne. They’ve been dead to me for a while

Probably not that much. You can make nothing but trash for decades and there will still be people who buy it if you advertise enough. Just look at EA.

This is correct. Quality of games hasn't been relevant to how successful they are for a long time.

How long until EGS buys blizzard from activision?

It's because their games are mostly played in china

I believe icefrog approached blizzard to make DotA 2, but was turned down. (this might just be a rumor though)

>>a poc was delighted to work on a game with no white men in it
Even worse.
A poc was disgusted at white men being delighted at making a game with no white men in it

>Hearthstone has negative player count

Wtf? I thought it's still popular

the reception to the recent xpac was pretty lukewarm. Hearthstone has moved to the point where its trying to retain a playerbase rather than gather up more

No it's true.
Blizz wanted to make a moba on WoW instead.
They could have killed dota/LoL on day one but they simply didn't care because of WoW making so much money.

Starcraft is doing fine, Wow is about to get classic. Rest of Blizzturd is trash tho.

I know a woman that has literally, LITERALLY never touched a blizz game, not even glanced at it, sans overwatch.
She knows almost nothing about vidya
She has never touched one of the considered best games
Her entire playing history consists of pixelated indie shit


She's now working at blizz after like 2 years of game dev at college

The company is beyond fucked

From 1 to 10 how delusional are you? These guys at blizzard are shaping their products to be "chinese friendly", so forget any grittiness or any artists freedom in the future. Also Diablo 4 is gonna be a looter shooter according to some leaks from an angry ex blizzard dev. At first it was unreal, but then it made sense since activision cut ties with bunjie that made Destiny 2. Blizzard future is fucked as hell

This doesn't matter, games can slowly lose playerbase and still rake in millions for YEARS before they die, and even then there's always the chance that by some miracle one expansion makes it popular again.

Stop calling everything that isn't Fortnite tier "dead", I'm so tired of this people did the same thing with ASSFAGGOTS trying to act like noone plays it anymore and that Fortnite "killed" it but lo and behold it's still fucking here.

I don't understand where you think I said Hearthstone is dead. Its in maintenance mode. I play it almost daily still myself, but my friend list of 20 or so peaks at 2 or 3 nowadays

Except WOW already has been losing players for YEARS. Some estimates put it at less than 10% of its peak. Obviously they can keep the game around - EQ is still getting new content FFS. The question is if it is relevant or doing more than just to sustain itself. The game is probably already in that EQ territory to be honest.

Things that never happened.

It's on death bed.
The game is held by sticks and tape in fucking unity, the dev team is the laziest team ever, the game is jewish as fuck.
People kept dropping while blizz ignored the problems and doubled down on them by making it more jewish, being more lazy and adding in more rng.
current playerbase is dropping exponentially while there's no new players what so ever.
There won't ever be new modes or improvements because the game is already so badly coded that it can barely function with what it has.

It has absolutely no future and the playerbase keeps shrinking with no hopes of recovering unless they massively overhaul the entire game, which includes redoing it on a new engine.
And that's too much time/effort/money on a game that's already going down the shitter.

In classic blizz fashion, by the time they realize how big the mistakes are it's far too late, and the people that were saying how it was all gonna get better and to stop complaining are the ones that leave and bitch at blizz for not fixing things.
Problems that have been in the making for years, this is not new, they were just not properly addressed and it's now too late

I shall be your eyes it's fucked

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>I play it almost daily
can you fuck off back to or whatever shithole you crawled out of?

Same reason few do. It's not PC and can get you in trouble with the new religion.

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"women were a mistake" - Hideyataki mushimushi

Holy fuck, that's a hardcore dive

I wish it didn't user.
I wish it didn't.

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Do you know how many people sub to something they don't even play anymore?
I have several friends who still have their WoW sub going. They haven't played since BC launch.

>semantics
>completely different meanings
Sorry nigger, I wrote "good" you read "succesful."
Those are different things, calling that "semantics" is retarded and just proves further that you're clearly on the spectrum.

I never said generalizing is wrong, some generalization are true.
All blacks are niggers, for example.