TOP: >painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame >>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at >adds a multitude of game-changing features, both in-battle and in the overworld >builds upon past features, doesnt remove them >huge graphical improvements and full-on cutscenes >giant world ripe for exploration, with an interesting high-stakes story >doesnt hold your hand with hour-long tutorials >literal only issue is time it takes to save your game, which is only a problem because of how much love they put into this game giving you hundreds of hours of fun and replayable content >all on a 15 year old handheld console with one 67 and 32 MHz processor each
BOTTOM: >cant even animate the entire roster in 3D, something that is exponentially easier than 2D animation in every single aspect, being almost entirely reliant on tweening >wont even include run-up animations that are included in 10+ year old games like PBR >>gamefreak defense fags will claim that no one wants to see that much animation since it will make battles take forever, while forgetting that GF could literally just make another animation style option, allowing for either no animations, limited animations (what we have now,) or full-on PBR style animation >literally just ported 3DS models >n64-tier textures >"open world" aspect will probably just be a gimmick to distract from just how absolutely shallow and empty the game is >"o-only some pokemon had access to megas so it wasnt fair!!! dynamaxxing fixes this!!!" >>remove (probably) half the roster just so more pokemon have a chance competitively, remove megas as a feature >"improved animations" = upscaling sprites like the ones used in kick/punch moves >blatantly tells you they dont give a shit about how you feel, you are a mindless consumer and youll even buy cow shit labeled as authentic pikachu poke-shit if we marketed it to you >household console with 2 ghz quad core processor and an actual fucking GPU
>cant even animate the entire roster in 3D user, you want to know something worse? THEY DID. ALL THE ANIMATIONS ARE DONE. ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE 2016. THEY ANIMATIONS WEREN'T EVEN USED, THEY WERE DONE IN PREPARATION FOR A FUTURE GAME. NOW THEY ARE JUST TOO LAZY TO IMPLEMENT IT INTO THE GAME.
>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame >>>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at This is wrong.
>adds a multitude of game-changing features, both in-battle and in the overworl It only adds triples, rotations and infinite TMs(this is important)
>huge graphical improvements and full-on cutscenes Right and wrong. The game still looks like shit but it's indeed much better than the past. The battles look the worst they've ever been since RBY but BW2 especially has the best modeled 3D cutscenes on the system, period.
>>giant world ripe for exploration, with an interesting high-stakes story >doesnt hold your hand with hour-long tutorials This is also wrong
>>literal only issue is time it takes to save your game What the fuck are you talking about. That issue went away with fifth gen, it was only a problem in fourth.
Your complaints about ShSw are completely valid, but some are fucking retarded. Like "literally just ported 3DS models" when you praise the 2 games above that did nothing but port sprites from older games.
>Gamefreak talks about how Pokemon Let's Go was hard to make >151 3DS models >2 iOS/ Android models >2 actual new Pokemon models but based on 3DS models >only 4 new animation sets made for the 4 models (Meltan, Melmetal, Partner Pikachu, Partner Eevee) >no actual new Pokemon models made from scratch
Xavier Collins
Nah, I'm a gen 2 zoomer. Gen 5 just objectively has the most effort put into it. Nice try at a non-argument though.
Camden Hill
So does everyone in gen 7 and OP's game, who gives a shit
Colton Anderson
>when you praise the 2 games above that did nothing but port sprites from older games Didn't BW have new sprites? It's been a while since I played the DS games.
Jack Scott
Yeah wow a second of 3D tweening, how expressive, I bet that took them a while user...
Juan Martinez
>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame >>>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at They have a 2 second idle animation during battle and that's it, what's even the point of lying?
Carter Ortiz
We're not talking about gen 5 sprites.
Lucas Davis
>3D >tweening You don't even know what you're talking about.
Kayden Walker
>grow up >uses sad frog I swear all of you people are retards.
Jace Rivera
GameFreak is slowly but surely losing their status as the bread winner of the Pokemon Company.
That's why the company wants to branch outside of the franchise.
>Zigzagoon runs by jumping left and right Fucking cute.
Brandon Cooper
your bait works better in /vp/ user
Jason Sanders
>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame Gen V was the peak but you're a literal retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Henry Miller
Only Hoenn Pokemon had brand new sprites.
David Hughes
never thought I'd be more excited for a fucking mobile gacha spin off than a mainline game but here we are
What is it about watching walking animations of Pokemon that is so fucking wholesome?
Daniel Smith
And Hoenn's trainers, in BW2. That's it. I wish i could find an Articuno gif because that's one of the worst things i've ever seen.
Sebastian Nguyen
>Marlon jumps into battle
kek
Jack Kelly
>Just realized that Pokemon Masters is essentially fanservice: the game except now with gacha and shit >Just now realizing the amount of fanservice BW2 even had and the amount Sword and Shield won't have because the mobile game is already doing that for them
On second thought, fuck Game Freak.
Matthew Butler
The sprites in black and white looked like fucking crap, way too pixelly
Angel Ward
>still caring about pokemon after gen 6
Let it go user. Sometimes it's better to let dreams be dreams
Dominic Nelson
imagine being over the age of 14 and saying you're too old for pokemon can i get a yikes?
I find it amusing how the attitudes to Gen V's Pokemon sprites has changed. I always liked them but I remember people bitching about the stretching and wiggling a lot back then. It always made them feel more "alive" to me, was harder to go back to the totally static sprites after that.
Christopher Ross
They still look like shit though, the extremely pixelated scaling makes them look even worse.
Ryan Evans
BUT ICE CREAM CONE ICE CREAM CONE HURRRRRRR
Black and White are the greatest games in the series alongside HGSS and plat.
Jordan Baker
Most NPC post in the thread.
Anthony Barnes
>painstakingly animates- Stopped reading there. Aside from the new gen 5 mons, all the other Pokémon were ripped with the exact same sprites from dppt/hgss only with a few frame of animation added.
Face it, gamefreak was always lazy, they’ve just been getting lazier.
Samuel Thompson
I said npc mommy. Give me a sticker.
Brayden Reed
Not really. NPC'S hate Garbador and Vanniluxe
Wyatt Ward
Well see, that's what I meant. Before, your post was basically almost everyone's reply to the sprites. Now some people seem to like them, which is curious.
Jaxson Kelly
Most snowflake post in this thread
Camden Cruz
>make 802 unique following animations >only use 151 of them because you decided to make a shit game for people that hate your games
Fuck gamefreak holy shit
Owen Butler
Hello fellow guys this is user, user is just a random dude who never worked in a dev enviroment. But he still knows that gf is lazy, not that something occured during dev or that there are other things. No gf is too lazy to copy paste animations and would rather new 100 new models, new world, new characters, add an open world area to spice things up, think of new ways to battle. But this is user, he sees that dynamax is just >gets bigger and sees animations, he doesn‘t even know what he could do with it. But instead of thinking, that maybe there is an actual reason no outsider knows, it‘s easier to spout misinformation and memes.
> gf shill
Adrian Gomez
Nostalgia.
Gabriel Collins
They should have just stuck to 2D+3D.
its pretty clear they're not capable of full 3D
Angel Diaz
good morning bootlicker
Carson Long
Just accept it Pokemon has finally gotten it's Sonic 06
Of course user also thinks that everyone who doesn‘t agree with him is a bootlicker. Not that he for once just waits and judges, no user knows exactly that gf, a company with 150 people making their first hd game in 2 years, are much much lazy than devs who need 500 people and 4 years.
Elijah Reed
>100+ developers >GF are the only devs who've ever spoken about Switch development as a challenge (whereas indies and major third parties have proclaimed how easy it is to develop for)
Logan Powell
I do wanna thank GameFreak for giving me a reason not to spend $300 buying a Switch. Pokemon was one of the few games that would have tilted me to get one if it was good. And these games are going to be even worse than what I thought possible for the Pokemon franchise.
Camden Hall
It's the largest fucking franchise in the world. They definitely have the budget and manpower to do it
Logan Adams
>""""""""""open world""""""""""
Daniel Wood
>2019 >Caring about pokemon games I just go for the porn only.
>BW2 was 7 years ago >haven't enjoyed anything afterward Gamefreak couldn't handle 3D
Aaron Butler
GF deserves all the shit they get
Jace Cruz
>thousands of people expressing their complaints unanimously >one cuck on Yea Forums: I don't know why people are upset???
Adrian Smith
I'm not defending GameFreak, but maybe you're too young to remember when 4th gen came out and one of the loudest, most universal complaints was that the game wasn't in full 3D. This continued all the way through BW and BW2, because graphics are one of the first things casuals and reviewers tear apart when bitching about a game. GameFreak are lazy fucking developers, but them not jumping to 3D was never an option, there was just way too much pressure. Sadly, their general incompetence meant that the jump to 3D was the beginning of their downfall. Every game since the jump to 3D has been a rushed clusterfuck.
Aaron Turner
I wish. This game will sell just fine by brand recognition alone. But maybe this can at least pull a Last Jedi (AKA the impetus to finally actually start appreciable contempt and division in the fanbase despite good sales). And then Let's Go 2 next year can be the Solo that straight up shits the bed.
Colton Rogers
As someone who is a casul to the series and only played r/b/y as a kid and recently S&M I couldn't care less about the animations or artstyle or whatever else you guys are bitching about. It looks leaps and bounds better than LGP/LGE? Gym battles look sick, the weather animations are pretty cool imo.
Henry Wright
Yeah this is the laziest gen ever. Still getting a switch in December but will probably get BotW instead
David Campbell
>2016 Try 2013
Kevin Walker
You'd think with japan being such a hellhole with black companies everywhere and suicide rates continually rising, some loser weeb would rise up and enact gamer justice. Too bad the nips have shit taste
There’s a big chance that Go will have more Pokémon then Sword and Shield. Go has every Pokémon up to gen 4. I still love Pokémon as a franchise but I’m done with Gamefreak
Parker Parker
>Gen 6 suffered its frames for high poly models that don't even get used despite being one of GF's one instances of future proofing
Charles Moore
GF don't do models, it's creatures.
Ryan Taylor
This can't be fucking real
Angel Myers
Nips by and large also had the good sense to let LGPE die in their country. Too bad America almost singlehandedly was the reason it succeeded thanks to massive bystander "nostalgia" for Gen 1 Pokemania.
Anthony White
>make futureproof models >don't use them in the future
People complain about them because GameFreak came out and claimed the reason we can’t have all the pokemon is some garbage about new models an animations. Despite the fact they still look the same (and like shit)
Cooper Moore
>a fucking porn flash is the best pokemon game since BW2
>youtube.com/watch?v=xhIc6UwnHj8 >BW >>makes you fight one of two Gym Leaders in the same Gym then gives the other a narrative reason for going away in the sequel >SwSh >>makes you fight a different gym leader of different type depending on the game you buy BUT WHY.
Dominic Lee
They did have new sprites, this guy is autistic
Juan Watson
Nintendo should just fucking buy Gamefreak out and organzie these retards.
Charles Campbell
>Yeah this is the laziest gen ever. Hmm, wonder how we got here? Can you perhaps help me figure this out?
Jace Wood
Models are fine and way too good actually, the huge issue is the garbage ass lighting and shader system they use.
I mean, compare XB2 models for example loaded outside of game with ingame ones, this kind of stuff can do miracles.
And it’s surprising because even when they jumped to 3D the graphics still look like ass
Jordan Jones
Gigantamaxing changes the animations and in some cases the model for all Pokemon. If they put in all of the Pokemon from the other games they'd have to make three models for each Pokemon in the game.
If they can't do that, they should at least supplement the team for the next core game with some Monolith staff since they've become Nintendo's go-to outlet for extra sweatshop developers when they aren't working on their own shit. There's literally no conceivable downside for this. >comes out of Nintendo's pocket, not TPC/Creatures/GF >Monolith staff could probably each do the workload of 3 GF employees without trouble >perhaps GF devs could even learn some development tips and tricks from Monolith >they'd probably end up with a product closer to a game core fans will want
Joseph Lopez
Shit excuse when they had 5 years of development and not all pokemon uses.
Christian Brooks
So don't have all the Pokémon gigantimax? Man you're retarded
Juan Kelly
Giga and Dynamxing shouldn't have been a thing in the first place
Bentley Peterson
REMINDER THAT THE LEAK IS 100% REAL AND CONFIRMED NOW
>people still bitching about SwSh Everyone who still complains about how lazy gamefreak is and the whole cut content, will most likely buy the game anyway. And then everyone will laugh at the people who posted #bringbacknationaldex. Just sit back and watch.
Ryder Watson
Pretty fucking sure only a select few will be able to Gigamax, this shit will be the same as Mega Evolution.
Brayden Perez
>Everyone who still complains about how lazy gamefreak is and the whole cut content, will most likely buy the game anyway. Only the biggest cucks, sure. Too bad Pokemon has a ton of those who'll eat shit regardless of how bad it smells.
Lincoln Green
>only allow mons you can catch in the game to gigantamax >everyone is happy except for a few fags you can never please anyways
>implying that LGPE selling poorly would have somehow made GameFreak more competent Kek. GF are and always have been absolute morons. They just got lucky enough to have a highly marketable game concept and Nintendo's umbrella to protect them from their own inevitable failure. Even if LGPE had completely tanked, it wouldn't have changed a single thing in their approach to SWSH.
Jaxson Watson
>pirating piratefags were never interested in buying games to begin with
Jordan Green
Lel, so you're going to pirate a game that you constantly shit on and play anyway despite all the game's supposed shortcomings? You're going to waste your time doing that on a long(ish) RPG? Wise life choices, user.
David Gray
reminder that some details may differ to his spotty memory, but otherwise I believe this leak mostly
Henry Smith
>nintendo protecting them.
They would gladly kick them for the whole fuckfest past 3 games if wasn't for GF owning 1/3 of franchise.
Xavier Martinez
>long >Pokemon jej
Easton Ramirez
man, gen 5 was the peak of pokemon,everything after has gone downhill
Hudson Howard
>best games in the series easily vs >what's quickly becoming one of the contenders for the worst along with XY and RBY
Please don't act like this is even remotely surprising.
Mainline pokemon games are actually pretty short if you don't bother reading the drivel and don't waste time hunting for items that ultimately won't help you much, if at all. The same goes for most RPGs, JRPG or not. TES games, for instance, are over in an instant if you stop playing a fucking stealth archer and just blaze through dungeons and ignore crappy loot.
Jackson Garcia
>long(ish) the average reading comprehension on Yea Forums, everyone howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=46323 55 hours is certainly long(ish), even if you are a full blown NEET
Carter White
The autistic one is you, retard. Just look at fucking Exploud or this shit
Everything surrounding the Pokémon games screams mismanaged as fuck. TPC's CEO is an out of touch old fart who only cares about mobileshit. This IP having media was a mistake.
Nicholas Perry
>different coloring >full on back view >not showing that Gen 5's sprites are completely animated and always moving Step it up.
Oliver Jones
>Frogposter >Complains about people being babies God I hate summer.
Christian Moore
>Main + Extras >+Extras Hearty kek
John Gray
The whole think with pokemon is that at this point they don't ever need to try again. They're raking in the cash constantly and even if S&S flopped harder than fucking ranger they'd still be able to make gen 9. So why bother actually trying if you're gonna make money regardless?
Hudson Young
>completely animated. >when 90% of sprites are pure tweening
Oh man, randomly changing color and making a shit animation that looks twenty times worse than the backsprite above.
Cameron Rivera
exclusive gyms
Matthew Russell
Literally why play a pokemon if you aren't going to do the extra content, the best content in the game.
>dude if you speedrun through a game it isn't actually that long what a brilliant observation
Samuel Perez
I wonder what the financial security for the employees are like, because with the way things are going they'll end up like blizzard with all their IPs gradually losing popularity until suddenly another company is nearing a hostile takeover and they lose a good portion of their health just trying to stay independent.
Henry Watson
>Main + extras.
It's piss easy to roll over the entire story even as casual, and if you are familiar with franchise it's even easier.
Only time that pokemon is remotely challenge was on DP due shit availability and BW hard mode.
Anthony Mitchell
Stop buying Pokemon games and products, there are many different series new and old that do the monster catching/raising system better
Jaxon Richardson
what digimon feature are they going to take in the game after sword and shield? My bet is on armor evolution
Matthew Jenkins
Because if it’s Gen 6 or 7, the extra content is pretty much minimal anyway
Lincoln Rogers
>speedrun No. Just stop wasting time on pointless time traps that RPGs are full of. Stealth and item scavenging are the biggest and most often pointless parts of any RPG. And when the dialogue is as shit as it is, why wouldn't you mash A through the majority of cutscenes?
Chase Gonzalez
>digimon.
When was the last time that Digimon was remotely relevant or threatening to pokemon?
Hudson Allen
Less than half of GF is working on Pokémon and they confirmed the fact a while ago. Most of them are working on "Town".
Why they wouldn't prioritise the flagship game of a generation for the highest grossing media franchise in the world is beyond me, probably because chucklefucks will buy it anyway.
Kayden Rogers
>the writing has been on the wall since the first game >GSC would never have happened without Iwata compressing everything >somehow we're only now noticing how shaky the foundations of Pokemon are
James Sullivan
>We don't want be the pokemon devs. >btw we just are gimping then next game and doing something that everyone and their mother know that going be a flop because we have a excellent track record with other games.
Jason Myers
It's probably because GF shares a stake in the pokemon IP itself with nintendo and one other group. Gamefreak is trying to separate from them, but are too stupid to realize just how incompetent and dependent on pokemon they are.
Isaac Mitchell
A reminder that Game Freak does not make the models or animations for the Pokemon. They make then designs, and then send through model sheets to Creatures, who takes care off all of that - GF only needs to port them to each game.
>b-but texture and animations youtube.com/watch?v=7OC6RSHTcdE youtube.com/watch?v=ypCj6d9gMOE TPCi uses better textures for Asia-only shit like Pokemon Tretta - they have these for pretty much every Pokemon species. You'll also notice that some Pokemon here have unique animations that are better quality than anything you'd see in a mainline title (Sword and Shield included), notably for signature attacks and standing battle poses for Pokemon otherwise fucked over by Sky Battles - why they've never used these is unknown.
Noah Scott
The CEO thought the Switch was gonna flop so they probably spent half the dev time jerking off and are scrambling to "finish" it.
It's baffling just how out of touch they are.
Kevin Taylor
The media aspect of Pokémon ensures that they will get money one way or another. Which is unfortunate, as I want the games to be the best they can be, not waste time on the shitty anime and movies and merch. GF and TPC are holding back the potential with their faggot mentality.
Cameron Russell
>going into this place for 200+ fights is content >going into this place for 200+ fights isn't content ok
Jacob Powell
Hopefully more people read this, holy shit.
Easton Perez
Merch is one hell of drug.
Even franchises that everyone call dead like Kancolle rake ton of shit with overpriced figures and shit.
Brody Robinson
It's amazing to think some chinese fucks make a better product than the main pokemon company.
Lucas Russell
Get the fuck out normalfag
James Anderson
>moving goalposts
Owen Rodriguez
You mean Gamefreak. Because TCPI handle everything.
Gamefreak job is literally only do main games.
Angel Stewart
When you have the budget and manpower that Gamefreak has for Pokemon... yes, it is.
Jaxon Edwards
It's not even some Chinese outsource - all of the shit in those videos is done by Creatures. All of the models are clearly theirs, as are pretty much all of the animations - even when it comes to the original animations, most Luiga and Ho-oh's are all clearly based on shit they did in Stadium 2, which was also done by Creatures (with some assistance from EAD and Hal). There is nothing preventing Game Freak from using those.
Levi Long
He is a fag, but not a normalfag. Normalfags value graphics above all else.
James Collins
plus, even with the magnitude of people complaining, the millions of shills and casual fans will drown out any possible issues people have so that the reception is still positive.
we literally cant do anything about it and thats why im not buying the game
Austin Russell
>There is nothing preventing Game Freak from using those. Gamefreak is a small indie company, they don't have the time or budget to add animations to the about 180 pokemon that will appear in the new game. Please understand
Angel Morgan
>Gamefreak is a small indie company, not anymore
Josiah Bennett
>to the about 180 pokemon that will appear in the new game. Memes and jokes have to be funny, you know.
Ayden Smith
Everything about this is more sad than funny. The only real laughs I got were from the tree comparisons.
Logan Foster
Came in here to say this
Austin Long
/thread
Brody Rivera
Does anyone have that screencap of swsh where the wall is clipping above the ground?