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>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame
>>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at
>adds a multitude of game-changing features, both in-battle and in the overworld
>builds upon past features, doesnt remove them
>huge graphical improvements and full-on cutscenes
>giant world ripe for exploration, with an interesting high-stakes story
>doesnt hold your hand with hour-long tutorials
>literal only issue is time it takes to save your game, which is only a problem because of how much love they put into this game giving you hundreds of hours of fun and replayable content
>all on a 15 year old handheld console with one 67 and 32 MHz processor each

BOTTOM:
>cant even animate the entire roster in 3D, something that is exponentially easier than 2D animation in every single aspect, being almost entirely reliant on tweening
>wont even include run-up animations that are included in 10+ year old games like PBR
>>gamefreak defense fags will claim that no one wants to see that much animation since it will make battles take forever, while forgetting that GF could literally just make another animation style option, allowing for either no animations, limited animations (what we have now,) or full-on PBR style animation
>literally just ported 3DS models
>n64-tier textures
>"open world" aspect will probably just be a gimmick to distract from just how absolutely shallow and empty the game is
>"o-only some pokemon had access to megas so it wasnt fair!!! dynamaxxing fixes this!!!"
>>remove (probably) half the roster just so more pokemon have a chance competitively, remove megas as a feature
>"improved animations" = upscaling sprites like the ones used in kick/punch moves
>blatantly tells you they dont give a shit about how you feel, you are a mindless consumer and youll even buy cow shit labeled as authentic pikachu poke-shit if we marketed it to you
>household console with 2 ghz quad core processor and an actual fucking GPU

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Stop bullying Game Freak. Making a game is very hard. Please understand.

Pokemon should always have been 2D, if they refused sprites they should have gone to CG drawn

>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame
Tweening isn't frame-by-frame animation, retard.

how about you grow up and stop playing pokeman?

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>cant even animate the entire roster in 3D
user, you want to know something worse? THEY DID. ALL THE ANIMATIONS ARE DONE. ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE 2016. THEY ANIMATIONS WEREN'T EVEN USED, THEY WERE DONE IN PREPARATION FOR A FUTURE GAME. NOW THEY ARE JUST TOO LAZY TO IMPLEMENT IT INTO THE GAME.

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Making a game isn't that easy!!!!!!

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>shit

Wow, that's just inexcusable.

I stopped playing after X/Y.

Based

This
Imagine being over the age of 13 and playing pokemon
Can I get a yikes?

There's absolutely no excuse to cut the Pokemon roster because literally every mon before this gen is already modeled or animated.

So zoomers whose first gen was 5 are posting in Yea Forums now, yikes

NOT TO MENTION!!!! In Black 2 and White 2 they animated nearly every single trainers intro sprite during battle:

youtube.com/watch?v=c9IgzG89zoM

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>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame
>>>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at
This is wrong.

>adds a multitude of game-changing features, both in-battle and in the overworl
It only adds triples, rotations and infinite TMs(this is important)

>huge graphical improvements and full-on cutscenes
Right and wrong. The game still looks like shit but it's indeed much better than the past. The battles look the worst they've ever been since RBY but BW2 especially has the best modeled 3D cutscenes on the system, period.

>>giant world ripe for exploration, with an interesting high-stakes story
>doesnt hold your hand with hour-long tutorials
This is also wrong

>>literal only issue is time it takes to save your game
What the fuck are you talking about. That issue went away with fifth gen, it was only a problem in fourth.

Your complaints about ShSw are completely valid, but some are fucking retarded. Like "literally just ported 3DS models" when you praise the 2 games above that did nothing but port sprites from older games.

>giant world ripe for exploration
:^)

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>Gamefreak talks about how Pokemon Let's Go was hard to make
>151 3DS models
>2 iOS/ Android models
>2 actual new Pokemon models but based on 3DS models
>only 4 new animation sets made for the 4 models (Meltan, Melmetal, Partner Pikachu, Partner Eevee)
>no actual new Pokemon models made from scratch

Nah, I'm a gen 2 zoomer. Gen 5 just objectively has the most effort put into it. Nice try at a non-argument though.

So does everyone in gen 7 and OP's game, who gives a shit

>when you praise the 2 games above that did nothing but port sprites from older games
Didn't BW have new sprites? It's been a while since I played the DS games.

Yeah wow a second of 3D tweening, how expressive, I bet that took them a while user...

>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame
>>>all of which are incredibly expressive and nice to look at
They have a 2 second idle animation during battle and that's it, what's even the point of lying?

We're not talking about gen 5 sprites.

>3D
>tweening
You don't even know what you're talking about.

>grow up
>uses sad frog
I swear all of you people are retards.

GameFreak is slowly but surely losing their status as the bread winner of the Pokemon Company.

That's why the company wants to branch outside of the franchise.

I dunno why people are so mad about Sword and Shield, I placed my preorder already.
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>laughs

back sprites look fucking terrible in gen 5

>Zigzagoon runs by jumping left and right
Fucking cute.

your bait works better in /vp/ user

>>painstakingly animates 649 pokemon in traditional 2D format, frame-by-frame
Gen V was the peak but you're a literal retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Only Hoenn Pokemon had brand new sprites.

never thought I'd be more excited for a fucking mobile gacha spin off than a mainline game but here we are

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What is it about watching walking animations of Pokemon that is so fucking wholesome?

And Hoenn's trainers, in BW2. That's it. I wish i could find an Articuno gif because that's one of the worst things i've ever seen.

>Marlon jumps into battle

kek

>Just realized that Pokemon Masters is essentially fanservice: the game except now with gacha and shit
>Just now realizing the amount of fanservice BW2 even had and the amount Sword and Shield won't have because the mobile game is already doing that for them

On second thought, fuck Game Freak.

The sprites in black and white looked like fucking crap, way too pixelly

>still caring about pokemon after gen 6

Let it go user. Sometimes it's better to let dreams be dreams

imagine being over the age of 14 and saying you're too old for pokemon
can i get a yikes?

Just for reference, here's the Gen 5 animations from B2W2.
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>Wayback machine due to the fact their site expired. Still works, takes a while though.

I find it amusing how the attitudes to Gen V's Pokemon sprites has changed. I always liked them but I remember people bitching about the stretching and wiggling a lot back then. It always made them feel more "alive" to me, was harder to go back to the totally static sprites after that.

They still look like shit though, the extremely pixelated scaling makes them look even worse.

BUT ICE CREAM CONE
ICE CREAM CONE
HURRRRRRR

Black and White are the greatest games in the series alongside HGSS and plat.

Most NPC post in the thread.

>painstakingly animates-
Stopped reading there. Aside from the new gen 5 mons, all the other Pokémon were ripped with the exact same sprites from dppt/hgss only with a few frame of animation added.

Face it, gamefreak was always lazy, they’ve just been getting lazier.

I said npc mommy. Give me a sticker.

Not really. NPC'S hate Garbador and Vanniluxe

Well see, that's what I meant. Before, your post was basically almost everyone's reply to the sprites. Now some people seem to like them, which is curious.

Most snowflake post in this thread

>make 802 unique following animations
>only use 151 of them because you decided to make a shit game for people that hate your games

Fuck gamefreak holy shit

Hello fellow guys this is user, user is just a random dude who never worked in a dev enviroment. But he still knows that gf is lazy, not that something occured during dev or that there are other things. No gf is too lazy to copy paste animations and would rather new 100 new models, new world, new characters, add an open world area to spice things up, think of new ways to battle. But this is user, he sees that dynamax is just >gets bigger and sees animations, he doesn‘t even know what he could do with it. But instead of thinking, that maybe there is an actual reason no outsider knows, it‘s easier to spout misinformation and memes.

> gf shill

Nostalgia.

They should have just stuck to 2D+3D.

its pretty clear they're not capable of full 3D

good morning bootlicker

Just accept it
Pokemon has finally gotten it's Sonic 06

*ahem*

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Of course user also thinks that everyone who doesn‘t agree with him is a bootlicker. Not that he for once just waits and judges, no user knows exactly that gf, a company with 150 people making their first hd game in 2 years, are much much lazy than devs who need 500 people and 4 years.

>100+ developers
>GF are the only devs who've ever spoken about Switch development as a challenge (whereas indies and major third parties have proclaimed how easy it is to develop for)

I do wanna thank GameFreak for giving me a reason not to spend $300 buying a Switch. Pokemon was one of the few games that would have tilted me to get one if it was good. And these games are going to be even worse than what I thought possible for the Pokemon franchise.

It's the largest fucking franchise in the world. They definitely have the budget and manpower to do it

>""""""""""open world""""""""""

>2019
>Caring about pokemon games
I just go for the porn only.

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>Retards still complain about models when they aren't the fucking issue.

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>BW2 was 7 years ago
>haven't enjoyed anything afterward
Gamefreak couldn't handle 3D

GF deserves all the shit they get

>thousands of people expressing their complaints unanimously
>one cuck on Yea Forums: I don't know why people are upset???

I'm not defending GameFreak, but maybe you're too young to remember when 4th gen came out and one of the loudest, most universal complaints was that the game wasn't in full 3D. This continued all the way through BW and BW2, because graphics are one of the first things casuals and reviewers tear apart when bitching about a game. GameFreak are lazy fucking developers, but them not jumping to 3D was never an option, there was just way too much pressure. Sadly, their general incompetence meant that the jump to 3D was the beginning of their downfall. Every game since the jump to 3D has been a rushed clusterfuck.

I wish. This game will sell just fine by brand recognition alone. But maybe this can at least pull a Last Jedi (AKA the impetus to finally actually start appreciable contempt and division in the fanbase despite good sales). And then Let's Go 2 next year can be the Solo that straight up shits the bed.

As someone who is a casul to the series and only played r/b/y as a kid and recently S&M I couldn't care less about the animations or artstyle or whatever else you guys are bitching about. It looks leaps and bounds better than LGP/LGE?
Gym battles look sick, the weather animations are pretty cool imo.

Yeah this is the laziest gen ever. Still getting a switch in December but will probably get BotW instead

>2016
Try 2013

You'd think with japan being such a hellhole with black companies everywhere and suicide rates continually rising, some loser weeb would rise up and enact gamer justice.
Too bad the nips have shit taste

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Nips aren't exactly happy with whole fuckfest.

Also sales in japan aren't exactly increasing with new games.

Anybody else remember this?

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There’s a big chance that Go will have more Pokémon then Sword and Shield. Go has every Pokémon up to gen 4. I still love Pokémon as a franchise but I’m done with Gamefreak

>Gen 6 suffered its frames for high poly models that don't even get used despite being one of GF's one instances of future proofing

GF don't do models, it's creatures.

This can't be fucking real

Nips by and large also had the good sense to let LGPE die in their country. Too bad America almost singlehandedly was the reason it succeeded thanks to massive bystander "nostalgia" for Gen 1 Pokemania.

>make futureproof models
>don't use them in the future

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People complain about them because GameFreak came out and claimed the reason we can’t have all the pokemon is some garbage about new models an animations. Despite the fact they still look the same (and like shit)

>a fucking porn flash is the best pokemon game since BW2

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>youtube.com/watch?v=xhIc6UwnHj8
>BW
>>makes you fight one of two Gym Leaders in the same Gym then gives the other a narrative reason for going away in the sequel
>SwSh
>>makes you fight a different gym leader of different type depending on the game you buy
BUT WHY.

They did have new sprites, this guy is autistic

Nintendo should just fucking buy Gamefreak out and organzie these retards.

>Yeah this is the laziest gen ever.
Hmm, wonder how we got here? Can you perhaps help me figure this out?

Models are fine and way too good actually, the huge issue is the garbage ass lighting and shader system they use.

I mean, compare XB2 models for example loaded outside of game with ingame ones, this kind of stuff can do miracles.

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And it’s surprising because even when they jumped to 3D the graphics still look like ass

Gigantamaxing changes the animations and in some cases the model for all Pokemon. If they put in all of the Pokemon from the other games they'd have to make three models for each Pokemon in the game.

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don´t worry, it`ll get worse in the future

If they can't do that, they should at least supplement the team for the next core game with some Monolith staff since they've become Nintendo's go-to outlet for extra sweatshop developers when they aren't working on their own shit. There's literally no conceivable downside for this.
>comes out of Nintendo's pocket, not TPC/Creatures/GF
>Monolith staff could probably each do the workload of 3 GF employees without trouble
>perhaps GF devs could even learn some development tips and tricks from Monolith
>they'd probably end up with a product closer to a game core fans will want

Shit excuse when they had 5 years of development and not all pokemon uses.

So don't have all the Pokémon gigantimax? Man you're retarded

Giga and Dynamxing shouldn't have been a thing in the first place

REMINDER THAT THE LEAK IS 100% REAL AND CONFIRMED NOW

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>people still bitching about SwSh
Everyone who still complains about how lazy gamefreak is and the whole cut content, will most likely buy the game anyway. And then everyone will laugh at the people who posted #bringbacknationaldex. Just sit back and watch.

Pretty fucking sure only a select few will be able to Gigamax, this shit will be the same as Mega Evolution.

>Everyone who still complains about how lazy gamefreak is and the whole cut content, will most likely buy the game anyway.
Only the biggest cucks, sure. Too bad Pokemon has a ton of those who'll eat shit regardless of how bad it smells.

>only allow mons you can catch in the game to gigantamax
>everyone is happy except for a few fags you can never please anyways

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Nope.

Do you not know what pirating is?

>implying that LGPE selling poorly would have somehow made GameFreak more competent
Kek. GF are and always have been absolute morons. They just got lucky enough to have a highly marketable game concept and Nintendo's umbrella to protect them from their own inevitable failure. Even if LGPE had completely tanked, it wouldn't have changed a single thing in their approach to SWSH.

>pirating
piratefags were never interested in buying games to begin with

Lel, so you're going to pirate a game that you constantly shit on and play anyway despite all the game's supposed shortcomings? You're going to waste your time doing that on a long(ish) RPG?
Wise life choices, user.

reminder that some details may differ to his spotty memory, but otherwise I believe this leak mostly

>nintendo protecting them.

They would gladly kick them for the whole fuckfest past 3 games if wasn't for GF owning 1/3 of franchise.

>long
>Pokemon
jej

man, gen 5 was the peak of pokemon,everything after has gone downhill

>best games in the series easily
vs
>what's quickly becoming one of the contenders for the worst along with XY and RBY

Please don't act like this is even remotely surprising.

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Mainline pokemon games are actually pretty short if you don't bother reading the drivel and don't waste time hunting for items that ultimately won't help you much, if at all. The same goes for most RPGs, JRPG or not. TES games, for instance, are over in an instant if you stop playing a fucking stealth archer and just blaze through dungeons and ignore crappy loot.

>long(ish)
the average reading comprehension on Yea Forums, everyone
howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=46323
55 hours is certainly long(ish), even if you are a full blown NEET

The autistic one is you, retard. Just look at fucking Exploud or this shit

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What the FUCK is game freak doing

Everything surrounding the Pokémon games screams mismanaged as fuck. TPC's CEO is an out of touch old fart who only cares about mobileshit. This IP having media was a mistake.

>different coloring
>full on back view
>not showing that Gen 5's sprites are completely animated and always moving
Step it up.

>Frogposter
>Complains about people being babies
God I hate summer.

>Main + Extras
>+Extras
Hearty kek

The whole think with pokemon is that at this point they don't ever need to try again. They're raking in the cash constantly and even if S&S flopped harder than fucking ranger they'd still be able to make gen 9. So why bother actually trying if you're gonna make money regardless?

>completely animated.
>when 90% of sprites are pure tweening

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No, you get a fucking cringe. Kys.

Oh man, randomly changing color and making a shit animation that looks twenty times worse than the backsprite above.

exclusive gyms

Literally why play a pokemon if you aren't going to do the extra content, the best content in the game.

>dude if you speedrun through a game it isn't actually that long
what a brilliant observation

I wonder what the financial security for the employees are like, because with the way things are going they'll end up like blizzard with all their IPs gradually losing popularity until suddenly another company is nearing a hostile takeover and they lose a good portion of their health just trying to stay independent.

>Main + extras.

It's piss easy to roll over the entire story even as casual, and if you are familiar with franchise it's even easier.

Only time that pokemon is remotely challenge was on DP due shit availability and BW hard mode.

Stop buying Pokemon games and products, there are many different series new and old that do the monster catching/raising system better

what digimon feature are they going to take in the game after sword and shield? My bet is on armor evolution

Because if it’s Gen 6 or 7, the extra content is pretty much minimal anyway

>speedrun
No. Just stop wasting time on pointless time traps that RPGs are full of. Stealth and item scavenging are the biggest and most often pointless parts of any RPG. And when the dialogue is as shit as it is, why wouldn't you mash A through the majority of cutscenes?

>digimon.

When was the last time that Digimon was remotely relevant or threatening to pokemon?

Less than half of GF is working on Pokémon and they confirmed the fact a while ago. Most of them are working on "Town".

Why they wouldn't prioritise the flagship game of a generation for the highest grossing media franchise in the world is beyond me, probably because chucklefucks will buy it anyway.

>the writing has been on the wall since the first game
>GSC would never have happened without Iwata compressing everything
>somehow we're only now noticing how shaky the foundations of Pokemon are

>We don't want be the pokemon devs.
>btw we just are gimping then next game and doing something that everyone and their mother know that going be a flop because we have a excellent track record with other games.

It's probably because GF shares a stake in the pokemon IP itself with nintendo and one other group. Gamefreak is trying to separate from them, but are too stupid to realize just how incompetent and dependent on pokemon they are.

A reminder that Game Freak does not make the models or animations for the Pokemon. They make then designs, and then send through model sheets to Creatures, who takes care off all of that - GF only needs to port them to each game.

>b-but texture and animations
youtube.com/watch?v=7OC6RSHTcdE
youtube.com/watch?v=ypCj6d9gMOE
TPCi uses better textures for Asia-only shit like Pokemon Tretta - they have these for pretty much every Pokemon species. You'll also notice that some Pokemon here have unique animations that are better quality than anything you'd see in a mainline title (Sword and Shield included), notably for signature attacks and standing battle poses for Pokemon otherwise fucked over by Sky Battles - why they've never used these is unknown.

The CEO thought the Switch was gonna flop so they probably spent half the dev time jerking off and are scrambling to "finish" it.

It's baffling just how out of touch they are.

The media aspect of Pokémon ensures that they will get money one way or another. Which is unfortunate, as I want the games to be the best they can be, not waste time on the shitty anime and movies and merch. GF and TPC are holding back the potential with their faggot mentality.

>going into this place for 200+ fights is content
>going into this place for 200+ fights isn't content
ok

Hopefully more people read this, holy shit.

Merch is one hell of drug.

Even franchises that everyone call dead like Kancolle rake ton of shit with overpriced figures and shit.

It's amazing to think some chinese fucks make a better product than the main pokemon company.

Get the fuck out normalfag

>moving goalposts

You mean Gamefreak. Because TCPI handle everything.

Gamefreak job is literally only do main games.

When you have the budget and manpower that Gamefreak has for Pokemon... yes, it is.

It's not even some Chinese outsource - all of the shit in those videos is done by Creatures. All of the models are clearly theirs, as are pretty much all of the animations - even when it comes to the original animations, most Luiga and Ho-oh's are all clearly based on shit they did in Stadium 2, which was also done by Creatures (with some assistance from EAD and Hal). There is nothing preventing Game Freak from using those.

He is a fag, but not a normalfag. Normalfags value graphics above all else.

plus, even with the magnitude of people complaining, the millions of shills and casual fans will drown out any possible issues people have so that the reception is still positive.

we literally cant do anything about it and thats why im not buying the game

>There is nothing preventing Game Freak from using those.
Gamefreak is a small indie company, they don't have the time or budget to add animations to the about 180 pokemon that will appear in the new game. Please understand

>Gamefreak is a small indie company,
not anymore

>to the about 180 pokemon that will appear in the new game.
Memes and jokes have to be funny, you know.

Everything about this is more sad than funny. The only real laughs I got were from the tree comparisons.

Came in here to say this

/thread

Does anyone have that screencap of swsh where the wall is clipping above the ground?