Is this currently the most satisfying shooter? I’ve tried the last Wolfenstein and it didn’t feel as fun as Doom

Is this currently the most satisfying shooter? I’ve tried the last Wolfenstein and it didn’t feel as fun as Doom.

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Try Painkiller. D44M kinda took after Painkiller more than it did after the original Doom games.

Too old

Serious Sam BFE had melee finishers

Pretty fun game. Starts getting kinda boring in the second half. Also, the rocket launcher and gauss cannon (especially after you max out siege mode) are beyond broken. If they had limited ammo they would be fine but running iut of ammo is a rarely a problem in the game.

first time through i played with no upgrades on UV. was utter hell but totally worth it

Yes if you’re mentally 16.
Otherwise no.

Fuck no! Nu-Doom was boring AF.
Even Serious Sam 3 was miles superior.

They're no "finishers". They're your melee ATTACK. And they don't reward you .

just get the dusk+amid evil bundle on steam

Killing Floor 2 has much more satisfying weapons, best gore system in current vidya, way more enemies coming at you at once, and even some environmental destruction.

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Pirate Rage 2, combat is on par. story is trash tho

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Nu-Doom is by no means bad. But we live in an era where we have Dusk, Amid Evil, fuckton of fantastic original Doom mods, and if you are willing to put up with the insanity of it's spread-sheet management, Shadow Warrior 2.

There is a perk that literally gives you unlimited ammo if you have armor above 75. Also the minigun turrent attachment is way more OP than both combined

Zenimax shill pls kys.

>Dusk, Amid Evil
Yikes.

I think the massive emphasis on upgrading generally harms the game more than it benefits it. Forcing player to play sub-optimaly just to get weapon masteries does not make the game more fun. And the sheer amount of upgrades and currencies make it feel both unfocused imballanced.

I did like the game in the end, but it feels like a more purist approach would go a long way in improving it.
Also, lack of fucking manual saves is - and will continue to be in Eternal - one of the dumbest fucking decisions of all time.

>Yikes
Dusk is probably the best shooter of past decade and a half at minimum.
Amid Evil is... OK. Not amazing, but not bad. Which is pretty much the exact same thing you can say about Nu-Doom. So I don't see your problem.

Dusk is pretty good if you can get over the graphics, I really enjoy the slide mechanic and its particular approach to strafejumping.

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Game doesn't force you in anyway to upgrade. I did a no upgrades or weapon mods run on nightmare and it was dope. I don't see how you can say it's unfocused or imbalanced

I think the graphics are one of the best parts and the strafe jumping the worst
>Just keep hoping till suddenly your fast!

No, it should have air strafing like quake where you gradually gain speed instead of just an instant increase to movement speed

>>Just keep hoping till suddenly your fast!
You only achieve max speed going diagonally though, so it adds this dynamic where you always need to face away from your enemies and rely on snap-aiming in order to keep up your momentum, it's really fun in practice coupled with the roll mechanic and the unlocked Y axis.

Doom 2016 is watered down console dogshit
>satisfying
red flag on any post

Watered down from what? Doom 3?

in some ways absolutely
I'm talking about the game design though, I don't care what it looks like

>being this shit taste

>Game doesn't force you in anyway to upgrade.
yeah right.
Even if we pretend that to be the case, the bottom line is, that upgrades and other RPG shit do not belong in Doom, and the 2016's stock gameplay is fucking tedious and unsatisfying.

from DOOM, and just about any 1990s shooter, you zoom zoom nigger.

You’re delusional.

Then don’t use them, dumbass.

Then don’t play it on console. Play it on PC, like it was meant to.

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Doom's hell is pretty much warp

Doom and Dusk are my favourites

That's not an argument, nor the point, ya stupid moron.

eternal looks better

it's the same game regardless of the platform you play it on