SMASH THREAD!

SMASH THREAD!

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He’s in

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oh

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>kirby's inhale is still garbage despite being his signature ability

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Yes, we saw the thread crying about SMASH threads, even though there were only 4 of them, so now you have to pad it out. Anyway, here's your new rep.

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I'm not letting a drunk fucking dog to drive.

How is it garbage? It does exactly what it needs to do

RISE AND SHINE DONT WANNA WORK ID RATHER PLAY

It still requires some pretty hard reads to land, copy abilities are still easily lost making it even less worth going for it, and sucking up most projectiles will stop you in place for a worthless 1% heal. They added a cool mechanic where some projectiles can be shot out as stars just like in his games but for some reason most projectiles instead put you in that helpless healing state so this mechanic goes completely unused

Friendly reminder no Sin will be allowed in this thread

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Doesn't it go through shield?

This ship is the worst thing to come out of Smash threads besides Steveposting

The porn was good tho

Only if you're right up in their face otherwise they can just shield to stop the wind property from pushing them in and just roll right through you

Debatable, the animations were nice tho
And that 8 min video was nice too, but bit odd on the sound

Just make him heavier and give him the pogo tail. That's all I'm asking for, I can even live with Up-B.
Go to bed Simon you boomer.

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>animations
>8 minute vid
WHAT

Yeah that SteveXBanjo video was pretty great

why the fuck is his up not fixed yet

>Up-B only goes in 4 directions despite basically being another version of Firefox/bird
>Samus' jab is non-functional on purpose
What is Samurai's endgame here?

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So, when we're talking about the Older characters
Who's the one that's really carrying the years?
who are the older characters in the roster?
How old is Mario?

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Isn't that just like a command grab? Why would it be hard to land?

i cant wait.
hes gonna be in with the rest of the bois

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For characters with known ages that aren't immortals Bayonetta is like 500 years old. Most of the other characters are below 30, divine beings like Palutena or have no confirmed age.
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Arenas?

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GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING Yea Forums! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Steve (yes, THE Steve from Minecraft) getting confirmed in Smash Ultimate! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming Fighter Pass when Steve walks into the spotlight!

>B-BUT BANJO GOT IN SMASH, AND THERE'S NO WAY M-MICROSOFT WOULD ALLOW IN TWO REPS! STEVEFAGS ARE BTFO/DEAD/GONE, RIGHT?
No!

Yikes! That’s pretty egotistical. How does a gameplay trailer invalidate the legible candidacy of the most popular video game character of the new decade? Sure, he may be planned for the fighters' pass, but as it stands he is currently unplayable! Smash could potentially remove the character at a later date once we, the Stevebros advocate for his removal. You ever hear of cultural appropriation and racism? The Banjo Kazooie series is linked to all kinds of systemic bigotry! JonTron, Mumbo Jumbo, etc. Once we prove to Nintendo that Steve is the more sensitive, upbringing morally superior Microsoft rep for Smash, your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!

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>8 minute video
SAUCE NOW!!!

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I had an honest to god epiphany last night, but am sadly disappointed that we are trapped in the universe where Beavis & Butthead didn't make it into Smash.

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honestly all i think he needs is an extra jump and an aerial version of his side b where he flies with the opponent in his feet, he's fucking ridley for christ sake.

R.i.p

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GOOD MOOOOOORNING Yea Forums! Just wanted to remind you that--
>*crack*

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This imitation simply falls flat.

This is one of the most brutally difficult games I've ever played. Granted I was a child.

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Whoa, looks like the Banjokes need to cope harder! I'm sure posting about killing our lord and savior will really get you somewhere.

But I understand! These things are hard to accept, (especially for a boomer incel like yourself) but you gotta face facts- by the next direct, you WILL see Banjo be cut in favor of Steve, I guarantee it.

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Is it really that hard to commit to a comical bit?

Too slow and small on top of Kirby already being a slow and floaty character. As said that's not the only reason why it's bad, unless you're facing someone like Shulk the copy ability is barely worth going for most of the time. Even in casual free for alls you barely see Kirbys using it

What comedy is there to rosterfagging someone that's actually a viable candidate? He's got the game sales, the iconic nature, and the potential for an unseen and unique moveset- unlike Banjo, who's only using a bimbo bird to cover up the fact he's another anime swordfighter!

Cope and seethe, Banjofag.

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This. wish it was the way Ridley actually grabbed people in Super Metroid instead of the shit taken from Smash

I just don't understand smash at a fundamental level, it seems like chaos. Every match I get three stocked while every other player still has 2 lives. What is wrong with me

You don't know what 3-stocked means.

I wish steveposting was a bannable offense and that the person who created the render's computer explodes

The problem you're not able to play as a simple, peaceful, easy to learn iconic character like pic related. Instead you're getting stuck with "literally who" Boomer junk like Banjo, K. Rool and Ridley- and we can't have that for the consumers, now can we?

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>steveposters are slowly infesting a smash thread that's not even roster related
fuck off

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>Simon and Richter in different tiers

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Not until you admit that you lost and that Steve is inevitable and that "the zoooomers" are smarter consumers than you.

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Based

>posters
*poster.
A singular sad sad little man

>He thinks everyone but a single person gave up because of a trailer

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Glad to see a good smash thread as long as we all agree gatornigger needs to go.

Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.

Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.

>inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt
Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits about literal who the gator

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No

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>ROB
>iconic

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You can't post things like this and not provide sauce.

i actually kinda want steve, but i don't want to give you reddiots the satisfaction

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"This is what you wanted, right sakurai? This was the promise I made for you..."

have bath.

>469562870
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the sad remains of steveposters, they have doubled down on a dead joke, and are genuinely angry about the inclusion of boomer characters

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I want a Gooigi echo of Luigi.

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Say something nice about my main/wife!

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Anyone want a custom stages arena?

Sauce me up senpai.

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i hate what this website has become

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Host an arena and maybe i'll join

Why does no one talk about her? She has a dang tie-in game with Zelda.

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I don't get it this image just looks like normal Yea Forums

>Doing her attacks in time with the stage music powers them up

>Gamer

It's not like it would ever happen, I just thought it would be a cute idea.
That and Hat Kid being fifth but neither of these guys are getting in.

The few Steveposters who have given up mean absolutely nothing to the rest of us. We will fight. We will win. You have nothing else good left to root for, Yea Forums. Banjo is another anime swordsman. What else do you have left besides squelching over the remains of an unforeseeable desire for shitty reps from Rare, Namco, Capcom and God knows what else?

Steve is /ourguy/ and it's his turn. He is the man that can set you free from this turmoil of pretending there is tranquility from rosterfagging the "literally who" bear for over twenty years.

You can either cope and seethe for not picking my intellectually, economically superior choice- or you can quiver at the fact that Banjo is going to suck in the game you don't even like playing.

It's your choice, Yea Forums.

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your shitty discord meme is dead. you're literally acting out of desperation and insanity from the sheer BTFO you got a month ago

>patternfag
Opinion discarded.

Dead? I beg to differ. He's right here and he's not deconfirmed just because Banjo's in. If anything, it confirms him more. Unless if you have a logical argument with evidence from Microsoft that says otherwise, then you're just another Banjofag spewing shit into the thread.
Why don't you have a seat down and let the winners talk?

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Why is gooigi so kino, bros?

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what the fuck are you talking about.

Gooigi isn't. Now, this handsome devil on the other hand...

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he reminds me of those mario 3 dees gummies. look them up

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING Yea Forums
ITS JUST ANOTHER DAY CLOSER TO THE REVEAL OF THE ONE AND ONLY TOGEPI GETTING CONFIRMED FOR NOT ONLY SWORD AND SHIELD BUT ALSO SMASH BROS
>b-but there just an irreverent forgettable orb
HA HA HA
IRRELEVANT?THERE THE MASSCOT OF THE ADORED BREEDING MECHANICS AND ONE OF ASHS POKEMON IN THAT WEEBSHIT SHOW
FACE IT
TOGEPI WILL BE IN SMASH AND BOY OH BOY THEY WILL BE IN SOON
>b-but the leaks said it will be female
TOGEPI CAN BE MALE AND FEMALE,WHO SAYS THEY CANT JUST CHOOSE FEMALE TOGEPI
TOGEPI IS IN SMASH TOO
AND SELLS WELL BECAUSE WHAT IS THE BEST SELLING FRANCHISE?
POKEMON!
>its not a shill mon its generic filler no way its smash worthy
SHUT UP,PIHRANA PLANT AND JIGGLY PUFF EXIST
>why do you care?togekiss confi-
SORRY ONIX FAGS
PIKACHU WAS IN LETS GO BUT PICHU WASNT
ITS EASY TO RESTRICT BREEDING
ONIX ISNT IN AND NEITHER IS YOUR FAVORITES
>so your getting rid of evidenc-
I HAVE ENOUGH ALL READY,SORRY!

SORRY,BUT TOGEPI IS BACK IN SWSH AND GONNA BE CONFIRMED AS A TOP TEIR SMASH BROS FIGHTER
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD NIGHT,Yea Forums

PS:LEGENDARYS WILL BE CUT,GENIE FAGS
YOUR DOOM IS SOON.

DOUBLE PS:ALL STARTERS OUT SIDE OF KANTOOOOO ARE CUT
SORRY DECIDUEYE

TRIPLE PS:BUT IF A STARTERS IN SMASH THERE SAFE LIKE OTHER SMASHMONS

QUADRUPLE PS:ALIEN INSPIRED POKEMON ARE CUT TOO,CANT CATCH THEM IF THEY ARE IN SPACE!
ELGYEMFAGS GET FUCKED

QUINTUPLET PS:YOUR BROMON IS SHIT UNLESS ITS TOGEPI

SEXTUPLET PS:ALL NON EVOLVING NON SHILL MON THAT HAVE TO REASON TO BE IN GALAR ARE CUT.

SEVENTH PS:ONIX AND OTHERS CAN BE CUT LIKE PICHU WAS IN LETS GO PIKACHU

OCTUPLET PS:FUCK DUNSPARCE

NINE?THATS THE NUMBER OF THIS PS,PS:TOGEPI IS THE ONLY GOOD MON IN THE ENTIRE SERIES.YOU ARE A FAG IF YOU DONT HAVE FIFTY BOXES OF TOGEPIS IN EVERY GAME
>B-but gen 1
ROMHACKS

10th PS:SOON TOGEPI WILL CUT EVERY1!

>Someone makes a neutral themed Smash thread
>It's immediately full of rosterfags and steveposters who don't fucking even play the game.

You fucking pussies are a disgrace.
8y3b6
pw: 1877

You fags never come anyways. I'm fucking smashed as well I probably fucking suck.

I’m just gonna repost this from the other thread:

“This but also he has more poltergust moves. Hell he could have totally reworked specials, like borrowing isabelle’s recovery with the baloon fruit, mewtwo’s stun with the strobe light, dedede’s suction with the vaccum nozzle. Maybe even ice climbers freezing move using the ice ability. He could hve all the non-special moves be the same. Additional stats: weak to water, but slightly more resistant to fire and electricity”

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Man mii swordfighter. sorry for the ganoncide. No disrespect meant I just can't help it.

it takes me back to the past

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man you seem to be right about no other people joining,

Those aren’t even that old, aren’t they?

Does anyone in this thread actually have a high GSP? Everyone is so fucking low in elite.

I’m almost 30 and I remember getting these every time I went to blockbuster as a kid

thoughts?

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Man arena maker here. Sorry if there's lag I got my ethernet cable adapter so I hope it's not coming from my end.

I'd be okay with this. Honestly, Ridley needs something. There's a ton of different ways they can go about buffing him, including giving him faster air speed, changing his up-B, etc.

One thing I've never seen anyone point out is how could it'd be to get follow ups from drag down fair. Think if he could do some Fox-type shit with that.

>drag-down fair into jab lock into sweetspot down-B

Fucking shit.

Hard countered by Shulk and other characters with big 'ol moves. Really annoying to fight for everybody else.

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I hover between 4.9 and 4.5 with Ganondorf on average when I'm.playing seriously, but every friday I get drunk and lose down to 2.5 sometimes. I play in locals, but I'm just grinding. I just want to play with new people. I don't care too much about GSP, I go from one end to the other all the time.

Is Zelda actually good or is online just bad?

>Banjo-Kazooie is linked to all sorts of systematic bigotry! Like Jontron, mumbo jumbo etc.

This is the best one yet.

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>le Ridley needs buffs meme
Fuck off retards, he's strong as fuck in the "right" hands (AKA anyone with a brain)

playing touhou characters in MUGEN is fun as shit

>want to pick up another character besides Ridley
>every other character feels a little too technical for me
I want to git gud but holy shit, some of the crap you need to do for certain characters is actually kinda tough.

I've got two characters in 5 mil.

I would consider that low still. I'm around 5.1mill and it's god damn annoying to win only 50-100 points from a match and then lose 2-3k against a laggy faggot which then takes me 15 consecutive wins to get back to normal.

>Fuck off retards, he's strong as fuck in the "right" hands (AKA anyone with a brain)
Nah, you fuck off. Even though people like Locus or Trela might be able to do shit with him, he's still basically invalidated by pretty much anyone in top or high-tier, simply due to his hitbox being as big as it is.

GSP means nothing

>469557112
pretty sure that kind of move is something that is meant to be hard to land because its so useful. say if it was against a ridley, it would be a massive help for him because it allows him to space with ridley's neutral

I have used it as a finish to kirbys basic up tilt neutral air combos. If you can jump and predict their DI, it works pretty reliably

Whatever helps you cope with the fact that you're abusing an inherently broken character, chief.

in what context? it clearly has some significance. anyone lower than me usually loses horribly and when i do find someone around my score, which is rare or I fight Nairo, the match isn't one sided.

I haven't played Kirby in forever. Does his whole tool kit still need fixing?

Eh, while GSP as a hard determination of skill is bullshit, I'd say in general, aside from spamming faggots, people in Elite are definitely better than people below it, and those just under Elite are better than those below them.

Every time I hit Elite, I definitely feel a difference in my opponents' skill level compared to people I fought to get there.

HOES MAD

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>an inherently broken character
>character has damage up the ass
>LE INHERENTLY BROH-KUN xD
>ignoring the fact that characters like Pichu can combo you from 0-60% without needing a hard read or without nearly as much commitment as Ridley

Well I'm lower than you and I'm far from losing horribly. I hardly ever get my ass wrecked so most time when I lose it's never one sided. I just gave the feeling you have some weird prejudice against lower GSP players.

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user... I... it's so obvious you haven't faced competent players, or you're not even scratching the surface of Elite Smash. Go to some locals bud, most people can play Ridley without thinking at all and win. I don't play him at all, for obvious reasons; and I was able to take a local (50 entrants or so) with him. He's easy as fuck, maybe the easiest, and has insane reward with little risk. Think before you reply.

Just hate that I'm always paired up with people who benefit from winning from me and when I win it feels like absolutely nothing. I have all my characters in Elite, most if not all are over 5 million, so I take it seriously.

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And people said that Dragonball characters would never get into Smash

>I get bodied by someone playing a low-mid tier at my local and I'm still mad about it

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>Reddit image
I should have known, after all you're playing the Reddit space dragon. Try maining a real character that takes effort, please.

>he thinks ridley is good

This is how I know you are trash

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Nice sets TSNK. I really had fun.
I think I remember your mii swordfighter from an early ulti Yea Forumseekend. I'm glad some people showed up. I know some of you a true niggas.

GG Ganon, genofaggot signing off.

Kek, look at Trela dominating Awestin's Ness. Awestin, the guy that took apart MVD's Snake. Also,
>This is how I know you are trash
Kek kid, cringing for you rn. I'm in Elite Smash, and win locals pretty handily. Keep seething, you're not good - your character is good.

Yeah well welcome to GSP. Why do you think I stopped caring? I just get drunk and throw my score away and I'm ever only really good with Doriyalord.
But you know what?
I got some nice results in locals, I'm rarely outside of top 8. So I mean care if you want I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life and GSP does mean something in some extent, but if you care too much about gsp this is what happens. I've been there. Losing GSP used to make me fucking buttmad angry. I only defeated this mentality by starting to attend tourneys.

I hope he gets in bro, just for you. I'd like to see you shine through your true main one day.

Ridley is only good in short burst of cheese, like any heavy character really, only difference is ridley is so light and so big. it makes him the worst big character, either give him more mobility or make him heavier.

>this one set proves me right!

That happened literally once. Is Ness better then snake because Awestin beat MVD once?

Lmao go home

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>Not knowing how the transitive property works
Of COURSE the Reddit dragon player is a brainlet

Oh the one where banjos lost in minecraft world and Steve vores him
Yeah good shit

Just a quick question:
Where you in the arena I made earlier?
Wouldn't it be funny if you spent all this time bragging about your anecdotal victories, but you never really showed up to have fun with your bros?
I main Ganon, I'm a total Doriyafag and, apparentyl, a low tier picker so I probably suck. Why not give me a lesson? Pick Ridley and I wanna see if I'm gonna get ass fucked.
If you want I'll make the arena again. I'm at the ready right now.

GSP means basically nothing. it gives a false sense of pride and false sense of feeling worse in comparison, it's character specific, you can get to elite with dark pit in literally a day. and even people in elite are just as bad as people who aren't either by just choosing the riht character who's easy to get to elite, and people who used the S-Flag bullshit. GSP is the worst ranking system in video gaming history, prove me wrong

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No, I've been at my girlfriend's. I'd be lowkey down to fuck you up later though. Also, Ganon is a close 2nd behind Ridley in terms of ease-reward. Both of them can stand still and spam smash-attacks to win, except Ridley is a bit worse because he can get 60% off a single move.

YOSHI IS COMPETING

oh didn't see this, yeah i've been around the ulti Yea Forumseekends, though i made my true mark here when Gum posted those lewd mii gunner stages.

If you could craft a stage list for your favorite series, what would it be?
>Brinstar
>Maridia
>Sector 2 overgrown with plant life
>Phendrana Drifts
>Norfair
>Sanctuary Fortress
>Elysia

Well...it gets me results.
Are you mad? Even if my character is cheap, all that matters is if I win or not. I admit I'm just good with Ganon, so what? Can you beat my Ganon? Let's go to the lab and find out.
No salt even. I got love for you bro if you play that game, but I make these arenas often and I rarely ever see any of you amazing unbeatable players in there, I find it suspicious.
Do you want me to give you my friend code? Do we set a nice little date? I'll prepare my asshole nice and soft for when you comin' with the ass poundin' and I haven't had sex in a while so I really wanna get fucked right now.

>Ganon
>spamming the slowest set of smash attacks in the entire game

Yes

do you run into skewer

>I'm bitching out

I'd imagine you must be trash to actually get hit with either's smash attacks in neutral or Ridley's down-B. Although Ridley's Smash attacks are actually pretty decent.

Anyway, it's moot because neither Ridley nor Ganondorf are broken, and despite either's power, they have major flaws. If you want to look at a broken character, look at Pichu, Wolf, Snake, or Joker.

This pasta has grown on me

Godspeed 'faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced' fag

Why do people still fall for the "Ridley is top tier" guy, he's blatantly said before he's just messing around

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>he gets hit by skewer
look dude, some big unga bunga damage moves dont make a character good.
i was playing K. Rool with Ganonchad, and i was doing my usual big smash attacks and neutral b, but that doesn't mean K. Rool is good.

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How do I get better with Isabelle in 1v1’s? No one’s gonna fall for her mine when there’s nobody else around, and her fishing pole seems too telegraphed to be effective in a solo match.

Post characters literally only you want.

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>lands a single d-tilt on you and cancels into a shoryuken immediately
>GAME
Nothing personnel kid

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while I feel a Reimu DLC should emulate this sort of thing, I feel it should rather do it by making her light but with ample heavy/super armor on her moves, instead of changing her hitboxes like this

>see images like this every single day now
I hate this place.

He only shows up in Smash threads that aren't consumed by rosterfagging which are uncommon so not many people are familiar with him.

oh he's inevitable alright

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Wouldn't Japan go ballistic if Reimu was added? She's never getting in, it would be a PR nightmare for Nintendo.

how good is ken in actual street fighter

unironically bubsy, every few moves you hit an opponent with he says some witty dialogue.
it'd be even better if he ended up being the best character, so every major tournament will have to hear him talk non stop.

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She helped me lose weight once.

pac-man's representation is almost as empty as final fantasy's in ultimate, honestly

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ken vs bowser is obnoxious

Legitimately should have been in over Piranha Plant.

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This is actually my first time encountering him.

I actually go for Skewer all the time. I don't give a fuck. I usually end up landing it at least once a match or so too, and I've gotten it at actual tournaments before. It's actually kinda underrated as a move imo.

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Now with Banjo Kazooie being the Microsoft rep, I am more than convinced Steve had been deconfirmed a LONG time ago. Hitagi backpeddlars just couldn't admit to it. Sorry Stevebros, but a Steve Spirit and a complimentary Minecraft themed Mii costume doesn't sound so bad. Didn't stop King K Rool from being in Smash in the next entry!

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At least mid-high in all games, top tier in Third Strike.

Unironically Shrek. Yes I'm being serious and not shitposting.
If Shrek started out as a full fledged vidya character in the same vein as Lucario, he would've been added earlier and you know it.

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I mean it's not like that many people give a shit about the Pac-Man World games.

Like it or not, Pac-Man's legacy is his arcade outings, that's why Sakurai bases his representation around those more than anything else. At least Pac actually has remixes, more than one or two spirits, and an assist trophy.

sucks about pac-maze though

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>single d-tilt
That's hardly enough time to confirm anything, might as well just do a Shoryu straight away. Much rather up-tilt to strong jab since they distance after a d-tilt strings.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

He'd fit very well in Smash but his game is too obscure.

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When the fuck is Yūsha coming out?

>that's why Sakurai bases his representation around those more than anything else
I will be mad about this until the end of time

He willingly made the decision to make it not work. Even one of the loading screen tips says its not designed to connect. I've made my peace about samus never being a good character, you should too.

September 23rd

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An somebody make an arena? Or a veekend thread

horrible idea

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>Implying skewer is hard to land
Am I talking to 2m GSP players or something? Once you get past a certain threshold Ridley becomes a fucking monster, but I understand a lot of you guys don't understand the complexities of the game.

Why do ridleyfags complain so much when Rosalina and Mewtwo are just as big and way, way, WAY lighter?

I'm so late on this

youtube.com/watch?v=7s8-esX9DgI

She's not a very good character for you. Other people will use her better.

They want their already strong as fuck character to be even better, they have trouble enough as-is crutching on him. It'd be fucking hilarious to watch a Ridley main try to play something akin to Palutena

This...would actually be fucking cool.

Missing the point

>Why do ridleyfags complain so much when Rosalina and Mewtwo are just as big and way, way, WAY lighter?
Because Ridley's hurtbox is bigger than either's.

She's high-mid tier in this one tho

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Doom Slayer and Ryu.

probably, which is why I think she's a never-ever. But I can still dream.

no

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such a dated and boring yet move set

Are you still there?
I'm the ganonbro who made the previous arena. You still there? I needed to put some(good) Link back into his Hylian ass place. Now that I'm done fucking up Hyrule, you still wanna play?

Is it just me or Dr Mario doesn't work/feel right?
I used to play him a lot on Sm4sh but in ultimate he's just awkward

Really? I've heard people call her bottom 5

Kek wtf. She's not top tier or anything but she's definitely not down there with characters like Piranha Plant and Bowser Jr.

I liked him better in Smash 4, but he's way better in Ulti still, but I just can't get to feeling him quite.
Same for Falco and Roy. Both are aeons better than in 4, but goddamn I had more fun when they were low tier.

I think he just moves too slow. His moves are strong and he has combos, but how sluggish and heavy he is makes it never feel right.

>Dr. Mario
>In Sm4sh
Based retard

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I would actually be ok with any cool character from the MTGverse.

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based

>Rosa's gimmick is sending out Luma to rack up damage and take hits for her
>Mewtwo's gimmick is that he's a glass cannon
>Ridley has the same, if not slightly bigger hurtbox and playstyle of most superheavies yet is only slightly heavier than Samus (if I remember correctly)

this thread reads like im on /vg/
>only 77 ips
yeah why don't you fags go there

Huh. She does have a sick combo game with bomb > grab stuff. The friend who told me that also tried to convince me Pika isn't top 10, so I guess he's full of shit

>slightly heavier than Samus
One weight unit lighter actually.

What are you talking about?

He's in

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Classic cope

>main Pac-Man
>go to local
>everyone there mains either Palutena or Snake
Guess I'll die

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>trying out every character to see who I'm decent with
>get to mewtwo
>mfw
How can one character be so cool yet so ineffective.

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>Palu mains
The absolute worst

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Cope, seethe and pretend your character is being vored in pic related.

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Based crocposter

How am I missing the point? Direct me to genuine Shy Guy supporters, and maybe you can prove me wrong.

Based as hell

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Not sure what you’re talking about here, but what I was talking about is that shy guy was never even considered. Piranha Plant wasn’t added because of it’s mario status. At least, not mainly. It was added because of its unique body type and moveset. Saying shyguy should have been chosen instead of piranha plant is missing the point entirely.

Palutena is respectable as fuck though, it takes a certain player to be able to utilize her strengths and it's not easy to do well with her.

Genofag here, someone make a new one. or make a ulti Yea Forumseekend thread

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That does not change anything, stop projecting your argument.
And if we're going by that logic, Piranha Plant was one of the worst vegetables they could have chosen. I would have rather seen a popular Grass type, Whispy Woods or fucking Flowey if we went that route.

He really needs some approach options and better frame data, and probably more useful specials. Inhale needs to act more like the signature move of his that it is (hell, Dedede's is arguably better at this point), and Rock and Hammer both need buffs in order to be viable for more than cheese. Aerial mobility and decent throws would also be nice.

Honestly if they would revert his dash and Hammer to Brawl he'd become substantially more viable already.

ITT: Assblasted Ridley players mad that anyone can pick up their dumb character and spam Nair/F-Smash/Down-B and get to elite

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Riddle me this Batman. If Steve is so popular, why don't people keep their skins defaulted?

T. Palu main

>cope and seethe
Why are you talking to yourself?

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Yeah? I do main her. It's not an insult at all, if anything maining Palutena is one of the most alpha things you can do in this game. She has an incredibly high skill floor AND ceiling, and she's underutilized/woefully unknown. Go back to maining your Reddit dragon/Reddit crocodile.

why r u being a fag

>r u
No one likes you stevefags. Fuck off.

>Literally Zelda but better and with a staff takes skill to use
>begins slandering the heavies that serve as combo fodder for his waifu

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t. has never played Palutena

Please anyone make an veekend thread

I'd go over all the positives vs the negatives Palu has, but I get tired of writing that out constantly. She has so few flaws gameplay wise yet everyone who plays her pretends she doesn't.

>Huh. She does have a sick combo game with bomb > grab stuff.
There's actually a LOT she can get off of bombs. But there's a lot I need to practice with them. Using them effectively and knowing when/where to place them is much, much harder than it looks, especially since it makes it a part of your movement. But placing bombs near the ledge is an amazing ledge-trapping tool and it can lead into stuff like bomb > u-tilt, which can spike, or bomb > dair or bomb > fully-charged shot. It's also very much reminiscent of Snake's grenade, since it can also get you out of jail when you get grabbed, which is kinda cheap honestly but no one's really utilized that yet.

Charge shot also has a bunch of different applications, mostly as a combo starter. You can do stuff like semi-charged shot, into dash attack or grab and such.

I really wish they hadn't nerfed the damage charge shot did to shield. That shit was so good.

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It's his speed. Doc was my gateway into ult for me to digest the mechanics and speed, but once I got that down Doc didn't feel right anymore so I went solo Mario. Damn shame since I love them both.

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Kek, list them. It's extremely hard to do well with her, and the fact that you think she has little weaknesses shows how bad at the game you are. I guess that's implied if you're seething over an actual broken character being criticized.

Legit think she'd be considered low-high tier at this point if shield damage wasn't nerfed. Sucks

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didnt know i wanted this

I don't play Samus, but from what I saw the shield damage nerf on Charge Shot seemed to only knock it back by like 1/8th of the previous shield damage. And considering the fuckhuge Shieldstun on that thing, wouldn't that make it easy to follow up with something like Dash Attack or a tilt?

Ridley and Rool are free kills and if you think they aren't you're an even bigger shitter than most.
But in my experience Palutena manages to have all the range, speed and damage she needs to pulverize any foe. As long as she's cautious there's little that can go wrong. Not to mention a tastey teleport recovery that makes gimping hard ontop of a neutral air that cancels just about any other aerial it comes into contact with. And from my time using her I've found her very easy to combo with. It requires some fact reactions but overall if you can pull them off it's easy to hit with. Generous hitboxes without sweetspots or any of that shit to worry about.

ken was around C+ tier in Alpha 3, though he was top tier in alpha 1 and 2.

your argument is shit if i can vore your tranny meme

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Charge shot and a bomb used to pop a shield at half strength
The difference is very noticeable, it basically lets your opponent block things for free depending on how far away you shot it

Yeah, it's definitely a huge shame. I used to fucking love shield breaking fools with missile > charge shot.

the shield damage nerf absolutely ruined some characters. Dedede and samus mainly, though belmonts took a hit too.
Megaman got slightly nerfed from it too. Ironically, the character that uses the most projectiles, snake, actually got buffed as a result of the shield damage nerf, since now he can shield all the time for free, and with spot dodge cancel grenade pull it makes him an even bigger threat.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

youtube.com/watch?v=ub46uT3VN1c

haahahahaHhahahahAAHHHHHHHHHHAAHHHAHAHAHA

Doc's down air is the only reason i play him over mario.

Why does he look off in smash, a lot of characters do

>Mega Man
As much as I enjoy Samus in this game there are times I wish she could just shit out projectiles the way Mega does. Given how she plays in her own games after all

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>Dedede
Absolutely not, the only people who played him gave less than a shit about it because he has several other moves that absolutely eats shields, it comes with being a heavy.
and the pros who played him didn;t get any worse results, Deli took his first win at the CNB regional a month after the patch iirc

I suck at smash any tips

And you pretend your character is in Smash.

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In a game where nearly every character got mobility buffs & landing lag buffs, Doc got neither of this. Hell his Air Speed is slightly worse. The main way he got better is through a dumb Down B and slightly better Pills but the rest of his kit is kind of similar. Also I don't quite remember what it is about Reverse Aerial Rush ( the tech that lets you throw out Back Airs more freely by turning around and then doing a Back Air ) but I don't feel able to spam Back Airs as much as before with Doc.
He's already plummeting back into Bottom 10 according to Top Players' opinions being united recently, but he's still okay.

Doc is just a really bad character. regular mario, diddy kong, pikachu, pichu, and even luigi all do his job better, and they all have some sort of cheese strat which is better than doc's down b.
>reg mario's ladder combos
>diddy's banana infinite
>pikachu and pichu's loops+super early kills with down-b
>luigi's grab combos

Might sell my game. None of the DLC interests me. I thought square was going to come through with my most wanted sora ngl. I wasted $25 on a pass that has characters I'll never play. Call me salty or mad but I just feel like they shut out a majority of fans to please a few weebs and onions beta males. Well played Sakurai, I admit defeat you are a good troll, but why would you turn your back on your fan base for DBZ FE?
>inb4 hoes mad posters
You are the definition of bandwagon. You don’t even know dragon ball quest, and only wanted hero because he looks like goku

user you are adorable. You are honestly so cute. I hope you live a long and fulfilling life filled with many great experiences

I like smash but these threads are always full of faggots taking steveposters seriously and complaining about projectiles

We Doc mains know have known we're outclassed since Smash 4, dude. We mostly stick around for dedication & the fun of the character.

Literally a zoom zoom.

>Doesn't know Simon's holy water has actual fire properties and can detonate projectiles
Fucking disgusting casuals

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ahem
HOES MAD
HOES MAD
HOES MAD
etc.

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Doc is just a more braindead version of an already braindead character. If you enjoy Doc past melee you're retarded sorry user.

I accept that title. Never really pretended Doc was really that subtle. I just haven't let go of these meaty hits ever since I picked the character when I was a kid playing Melee. I'll gladly just be a retard ungabungaing my way to a couple of wins.

You had me until you said Sora. The last thing we need is more third-parties.

When are they gonna make her good?

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i feel like shit because i really dont see the difference with smash 4 and ultimate sheik besides the final smash.
what makes her worse?

>her

Worse damage, loss of kill confirms, and general mechanics going against her. The x0.85 damage output on Short Hop aerials along with staling make her combos very weak in a game where characters got buffed raw damage output for the most part. The ambiguity & versatility of airdodges can fuck with her ability to frame trap opponents, most prominently on stages with platforms.

similar to in brawl, this game has less hitstun. Smash 4 had more hitstun so characters like sheik, lucas, bayonetta etc had the ability to extend their combos much more.

good shit my nigga

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HES IN

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If this image said GUH HUH it would be perfect desu

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Smash is a game where you need to play on a fundamental level. The best way you can get better is to play by the mantra of "don't get hit"

BB hunter is the only never ever for me.

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Hero's mobility/weight/lag specs, from the datamining that was done on " Brave ", similar to what happened with Joker & Plant.
>101 Weight ( Between MegaMan & Cloud )
>1.74 Run Speed ( Between Yink & Kirby )
>1.14 Air Speed ( Between Mii Brawler & ROB )
>1.53 Fall Speed ( Between Palutena & Charizard )
>2.88 Fast Fall Speed ( Like Chrom/Roy's, +90% increase like Link )
Landing Lag on Aerials:
>Nair: 6 Frames ( Like Link's )
>Fair: 12 Frames ( Like Yoshi's )
>Bair: 8 Frames ( Like Cloud's )
>UAir: 8 Frames ( Like Yoshi's )
>Dair: 10 Frames ( Like Inkling's )

Nah, I play both and Palutena and Zelda are fundamentally different. Zelda is more geared towards zoning and spacing, whereas Palutena is more of an all-rounder. If anything I'd say Zelda plays more like a heavy character, with invincible B, solid projectiles and powerful kill options. All 4 of her serials are serious kill moves and forward smash and up smash are very meaty.

>less hitstun
shut up, it's hitstun differene is negligible, this was proven in the first MONTH of the game, sepcifically BECAUSE of claims like this
It's BKB and launch angle changes and the way Balloon Knockback is fatored that made it seem more limited than 4, but now that the meta has developed, you should see clear as day that more characters actually have bigger combo trees, like ZSS, Mario, Pikachu, Bowser Jr, Kirby, etc.

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I main Palutena and her biggest flaws are she lacks moves to escape pressure, none of her grounded move have a quick start up other than jab, and that has a very horizontal hurtbox, so it's easy to miss. If you get in on Palutena she will struggle to shake you off and hef options to do so leave her vulnerable.
Another big flaw she has is that all her moves require too much commitment. Her long active hitboxes on everything except literally fair and bair mean that she absolutely has to to connect her attacks or she's eating a punish. Baiting her into making unsafe moves is very effective.
She's also very light and rather tall so she dies quickly to fast and powerful characters like Chrom/Roy and C. Falcon.

I agree that she's extremely powerful and very top tier in Ultimate, but I also feel she manages to do so withouth being outright broken. Hell, I come from subing her in Smash 4 so I also know a couple of things about her nobody labs, because it's obsolete.

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>we need more first parties

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what should i make him a swordman or a gunner?

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Not him, but when I think of first parties I want, it's never the basic bland Waluigi/Ashley/FE/Gen 8/ARMS shit. I want Nintendo to dig deeper with first party choices.
What I'm saying is I want them to treat good boys like pic related better.

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Someone post the collage

Honestly who even cares if Steve gets added at this point, it's not like Banjo gets taken out

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Wont be long before you’re voted out

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we'll get our chance eventually

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This guy's comics are never funny, just third-rate brawl in the family without any of the charm

Who the fucks voting

>following twittertard opinions

He's in.

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I myself have imagined a funny moveset for him. Some of his moves lower the rival's speed and airspeed.

It's pretty safe to assume that's what the entire fighters pass will consist of.

Made any neat stages recently?
Made any lewd stages recently?

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Banjo fans : OMG Banjo is in finally he was my most wanted since Melee and I loved all his games!11!!1!11!!

Clever people : He use Kazooie to shoot eggs, wow, Megaman doesn't have something similar...

Banjo fans : Who the fuck is Kazooie?

This is facebook meme tier

Nobody:

Literally no one:

Not a single soul:

Not even God himself:

Random incel: i'm gOiNg tO MaKe fUn oF BaNjO FaNs

you OK reatard? I am wood

stupid

This render looks awful, jesus
It's like he tried to imitate the Ultimate style with the hair and clothes details, but then he gave up and decided to make it psuedo-4 art style with the basic geometry on the shoes and sheath and the textureless scarf
Also, character never has such a minor accessory forefront in their renders. The closest something comes are the capes in Lucina and Chrom's renders, but those are things that are trailing behind them and easily noticeable due to their freer physics, whereas I can see the scarf getting simple headband physics due to how long and disruptive it would look

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I've played more DQ than i have Banjo.
And I've only played 1 DQ game.

Cant wait for Hero video this week.

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Literally nobody in the history of the universe has ever been even slightly clever for trying to force similarities. Everyone instantly sees that stuff. Someone who is actually clever will find the differences and the different use cases.

it's the smash ultimate model with the mii isaac hair, you're just delusional

Waluigi would be unironically based, everyone who's played the mario party games as a kidhas felt a connection to that mysterious man. There's a reason he's so wanted

GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING Yea Forums! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to Waluigi (yes, THE Waluigi) getting confirmed in Smash Ultimate! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming Fighter Pass when Waluigi air swims into the spotlight!

>b-but he’s an assist trophy! He’s not gotta be in!
“WAH!”

Sorry, but Paragon said so, AND this breaking of rules would totally be in his wacky character to do. Paragon got the DLC 2/3 right for E3, as well as every detail in their trailers. K.Rool falling through the ground should be a hint that he’ll land on flowery in Frisk’s trailer. The DLC characters have also been confirmed to be “surprising” according to the developers, and Nintendo has already stated that they hear fan’s cries, so I’m afraid your years of crying about rules are going to be subverted once again with the reveal of our favorite WAHnderdog! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!

Must not be fighting any good G&Watches, Bucket and retreating FAir combined properly make approach a nightmare.

I main mewtwo and get a lot of rematch request am I fun to play or just easy?

So that's why it isn't good, he took an assis trophy model.
I was judging it based on the thought process that it was a render done from scratch, that's why it looks so shitty,

How do I start having fun with this game again? I feel like I'm completely ass at the game online and I don't have that much fun with the characters I frequently play.

Don't attack where your opponent already is, but where they will be. Who do you main?

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Does Mewtwo's side-b have any use outside of being a reflector? Every time hit someone with it I can't seem to anything with it. Am I just attacking too fast?

Post mains and GSP.
Preliminary recs:
>Watch dis youtube.com/watch?v=L35n2ttewMI got me out of a similar funk by gitting me to git gud.
>Play arenas with Yea Forums to avoid Wi-fizodia characters (Ganon, Ness, Link, Wolf, Russian Nested Doll Marthzodia) There will still be cancer, but at least it comes from people who are in denial about being flowchart bitches instead of flagrantly just farming GSP. Quickmatch isn't smash.

It can be a mix-up movement option when getting back on stage. It's not as risky as you'd think

I'm pretty sure GimR said it true leads into Fair at 120+ on everyone but Bayonetta (due to Bat Within being Frame 1), it functions like Snake's D-Throw in that it gives you more priority the higher percent the foe is

It was a better boss than Galeem & Dharkon

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>Isabelle 4.9 mil GSP
>Cloud 4.0 GSP

>Master Fortress died on the inferior version of Smash 4
I will never not be mad.

heavy will be on smash
Steve fag will have to hang itself

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As in using it to just move away? That makes sense, I'll try that out.
Huh, I honestly stopped trying to use Fair with it but that's good to keep in mind.

Buff Ridley please thanks.

Imagine having to fight this fucking thing to get 9.9
The hands fucking suck, but this thing would be borderline impossible

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Me, after about 800 games.

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Puff should make be in cancer tier as well.
And I main puff.
(Or I would but my friends don't enjoy themselves when I do)

Okay, revision, it turns out that it's only true at 140 when used in the air, not working against Bayonetta for the reasons I listed earlier, sorry about that
for the video youtube.com/watch?v=MlGB_MFg-CU

It's tricky if you have focus problems as it really can be chaotic.
Items off on a non-distracting stage would be a good starting point to get used to what you need to focus on.
It can be challenging for newer players if theres more than one opponent.
Try one on one.
Sometimes the chaos makes for great laughs though.
>tfw landing a warlock punch on 7 opponents at once with no survivors

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The Waluigifag Litmus Test
>Cringe tier: Only gave a shit about Waluigi after the "Everyone is Here except Waluigi" memes happened
>Bad tier: Only wants Waluigi out of obligation or memes
>OK tier: Wants Waluigi because they believe that he could have a unique moveset
>Good tier: Wants Waluigi because they legitimately enjoy the character and think he'd have moveset potential
>Great tier: Has been on the Waluigi train ever since Brawl in the Family managed to popularize him
>Excellent tier: Wants Waluigi and has mained him in several other Mario games
>Based tier: Wants Waluigi and has thoroughly enjoyed his partner-in-crime Wario's games
>Redpilled tier: Wants Waluigi not just in Smash, but in a mainline Mario/Wario game as well
>Enlightened tier: Has liked Waluigi as a character even before Brawl in the Family skyrocketed his popularity
>Ascended tier: Wants Waluigi because he'd be the closest thing to Dan Backslide or Dick Dastardly in Smash Bros.

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>ike
>braindead
ok

>Buff
>Not nerf
Yikes...

Isabelle isn't really friendly to any sort of tryharding IMO. To truly appreciate her you have to find the fun of the silly shit she can do and in that vein you can't have winning as the goal of the match. If you still want to main her I recommend going into games with a lighthearted approach. Going moreso for visual comedy than domination might renew your mind and make the pre-requisite of being able to outsmart your opponent easier than if outsmarting them was your goal from the start.
If that sounds stupid then I recommend switching to Villager, or another similar character that is easier to be competitive with.

As for Cloud, he's really kind of fucky since he's very sink or swim depending on if you can land those limit attacks. In that way I think he's harder and demands more consistency than it appears at first glance with his simple attacks.. He's someone you'd very much need a steady mind to get long term results with. I can't give much recommendations for other characters to try off of him because he's one of those that people just default to playing when nobody else seems right. If you don't want to play him anymore, I recommend finding your personality and LARPing as it, playing what it would want to play.

It also can be that the 1v1 format is gay as fuck. Try out doubles, especially with a friend. Isabelle is a shit ton of fun there since your partner can buy time for gimmicky setups and shit.

If there's anything I want you to get out of this post, I think it's that you should try to appreciate the game for more than just victory. I feel like that's something anyone who found Isabelle appealing should know.

He's literally one of the most braindead characters in the game

I think I've only ever seen one other Wolf player in 1v1 quickplay. Everyone goes on about how apparently common he is, but I never see him.
Nobody will bully me out of playing him.

Yikes..

>Every single koopaling, a new character that was created and popularized long after his existence and a fucking immobile level hazard all got into smash as a playable character before him.
I will never not find this hilarious. I bet Birdo and Toad will make it in before him too.

Its stalls you in the air which throws off enemy timing and gives you more distance traveled in the air for recovery.
It cancels out some opponents moves
It goes through shield
It can be followed by forward tilt usually for free dmg/combo starting and some gained breathing room.

might as well ask here, does anyone have that comic of a super deformed sad guy waiting inside a fridge for a banjo kazooie game that has some anime girl tell him about banjo in smash? It's really bothering me that I can't find it.

Fuck, I know what you're talking about, I just never saved it.
why do you want it even, it wasn't really that funny or heartwarming

at face value, sure

I was reading a banjo kazooie wiki and that comic just popped into my head

I don't really like it either but it still just botheres me I can't find it

No... even at a top level he's braindead. Whatever helps you cope, I guess. Just remember how boring Mkleo's Ike was to watch, and how many people hated it. He's a Nair bot, and there's very very little skill expression. Keep crutching, though, user.

"interactive projectile" users are the most fun, big-brain characters in the game and it's unfortunate there's not more of them.

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Thanks user. I try to play the game to have fun most of the time but I tend to slip into that mindset and kill the fun for myself.

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>maintenance
the herobros????

Whatever helps you feel good about playing pussy characters champ

You better main a light weight character that depends on good execution if you're calling other people pussies user.

God I wish.

Will this
youtu.be/_eQO33JQRU0
or this
youtu.be/zaCiqOaHi3Q
be Hero’s victory theme?

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Maybe in any other game. Most of the """zoners""" in Ultimate are pure cancer to fight.

Literally nothing compares to characters that have playstyles based around running away and throwing projectiles/disjoints, it's not skill until the top level, which you aren't.

As long as you can agree that heavies are just as much as a security blanket I'm okay. I don't want to see public perception be warped by some delusional ganonfag. I'm not that user btw.

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im at good tier, give him a biker suit so he matches with wario

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>The Banjo Kazooie series is linked to all kinds of systemic bigotry! JonTron, Mumbo Jumbo, etc.

>Mumbo Jumbo

I wonder whose behind this post

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>MARITEL

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This faggot better not use this video as an excuse to break his promise

He SAID he would get a Sans Tattoo on his ass if Banjo got in because he was confident Steve was getting in

>everyone always complains about how ff has 2 songs
>punch out has 4, and 3 of them are just remixes of the nes themes
>only ONE of them is from wii

Need i remind everyone that we ended up getting the fucking Spiral Mountain Remix despite Banjo being the third

Enjoy your absolute fucking nothing of a DQ song other than the main theme, thanks Jew Enix

Yeah I wanna smash isabelle yeah hah a

OH NONONONO

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Nope. :(

Ignore him, it’s a prolific shitposter who’s been insisting Ridley is broken for months now

where can we find your older art since tumblr is dead now? could you do somethin like a mega archive of all your stuff? i'm a big fan

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But no One Winged Angel or jevona themes is one hell of a sin

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>Well, haven't we gotten far for a group of autistic discordfags?
>I am Dr. Nefarious Tropy, master of rosterfagging and keeper of the very character slots you see before you
>Sakurai and Activision have sent me to end this little charade, so you won't be leaving here with your moveset intact.
>I SWEAR IT.

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Based N. Tropyposter putting stevefags in there place and corrupting snoyfags save files.

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I heard he was in, is that true??

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