Why the fuck is Banjo playble? He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise who's had 5 Games (3 of which were never released in Japan) and some bullshit cameos in Rare's shitty games and Racing Games starring Mario and Sonic Characters
Meanwhile, Actual iconic characters like Byleth, who is part of a Nintendo Franchise that has over 16 games including succesful remakes and spinoffs acclaimed by fans and critics, mind you is not in the game, but this furfag who has 5 games, 3 of which weren't even in Japan and Tooie being hated by all fans gets to be playable?
Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this.
I stopped played Ultimate after a few weeks of playing cause of how garbage it is, but Banjo's inclusion gave me a tiny bit of hope that the next two could be good cause two generic pretty boys that wields a sharp weapon is pretty faggoty not gonna lie.
Jayden Foster
>Not being happy that his appearance in the game will finally shut up banjofags just like roolfags and ridleyfags shut up afterwards.
Jeremiah Rogers
>Relevance >Popularity >Unbiased Choices like Meta Knight, King DeDeDe, Dark Pit, and Palutena
We already have Lucina. Fire Emblem needs to fuck off.
Brayden Mitchell
For those of you uncultured Swines
THIS! IS BYLETH
The Main character of Fire Emblem™: Three Houses. AKA, THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME. And Byleth will be in this game because Byleth is Important for Fire Emblem and Nintedo as a whole as of Right now.
Banjo-Kazooie is a surrogate Nintendo IP. It doesn't matter if Microsoft owns them, that's just some dumb ink on paper that allows them to sic authorities on people who use the IP in a way Microsoft doesn't want. Nintendo is the home of Banjo and Kazooie. That's why the Smash trailer is called "Welcome Home" in Japanese, because they are literally returning to where they belong: with Nintendo. Back in the day you'd see them on all sorts of promotional Nintendo art, ring alongside Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Pikachu and others. They were clearly considered an official part of the core Nintendo cast of characters.
Banjo-Kazooie was born on Nintendo, loved on Nintendo, remembered on Nintendo and that's where everyone wanted Banjo-Kazooie to come back to. Nobody cares that Microsoft "owns" the IP, not even Microsoft themselves.
Smash Bros. is about Nintendo whether you like it or not. A couple of oddballs doesn't change that - and this is why Banjo and Kazooie are in. They have a strong legacy with Nintendo to the point that they are honorary Nintendo characters. Whatever character it is you think should have gotten in instead of them, they didn't because they're not as Nintendo as B-K. And whatever obscure character from a dormant series it is that you think has a chance now because of Banjo-Kazooie, they don't because they're not Nintendo. Not in the same way or extent that Banjo-Kazooie is, at any rate.
Brandon Bell
Good one, rosterfag
Jackson Green
The furry fills with rage and hate, He uses buzzwords in his bait! Your bara cat has no appeal, That's what it takes to be a heel!
BYLETH IS NOT A GENERIC ANIME SWORDMAN AND YOU KNOW IT, BYLETH IS GOING TO BE ORIGINAL AND WILL BE TOP TIER WITH CHROM
Caleb Hernandez
>"waste of a slot"
There are no slots in Smash Bros you retard, for all you know they could do a second Fighter Pass or add characters just because they want to after the Fighter Pass.
>Irrelevant character from a dead franchise
So are Game and Watch, Captain Falcon, Ness and Lucas, Ice Climbers, Little Mac, Wii Fit Trainer, Simon and Richter, Young Link, Megaman (at the time), R.O.B. and Rosalina.
>Actual iconic characters like Byleth
So iconic that I literally had to search it up to even know who he fucking was.
>You can't seriously defend this
I can, actually:
For the past 10 years we have had appreciation for many of the 8-bit and 16-bit classics, but nowadays the appreciation for characters that were born in the era of Playstation and N64 is starting to become popular again, with the likes of Super Mario Odyssey coming back to its Super Mario Bros 64 roots and the N Sane Trilogy. Not only that, but Banjo and Kazooie have been very popular characters since the N64 era despite their future games not being very well recognized, and they're known to be heavy on fan demand, which is usually the reason as to why even Sakurai and its team decide to include any of the characters.
>Nintendo is the home of Banjo and Kazooie. That's why the Smash trailer is called "Welcome Home" in Japanese, because they are literally returning to where they belong: with Nintendo. Dunno if this is pasta, but the Japanese trailer is called Nakamatachi. which means companions.
Jason Evans
Are you good at anything?
Ethan Green
>wanting another swordsfag immediately kill yourself
Ayden Thomas
Everyone was dissapointed incineroar was probly getting in. Then they warmed up to him and now the remember why they didn't want him.
Banjo is iconic. Incineroar is a literal, actual shill. It was stated by sakurai a Pokemon needed to be added and that was incineroar. No one asked for him and the people that did want him dont care anymore because better characters have been added or brought back. Banjo will always be loved
You’re just choosing random characters now. You seriously need therapy.
Jacob Thompson
Your sad little couplets sure look mighty rough. Just rhyme within meter. It's truly not tough. And speaking of cuts, I'm sure that you'll find, Your sad little shillmon will get left behind!
No he's actually a delusional retard. Stop sucking his dick.
Cooper Rodriguez
does rosterfag actually mean anything, before tony the tiger was even announced i saw people shouting "rosterfag" at incineroar posters because they thought he HAD to be in
John Johnson
>tfw next Smash's tagline is Everyone is Here* >*But Cloud and Hero
Charles Sullivan
You make yourself seethe?
Christopher Morales
>tfw no good fates music Fuck you Sakurai, why can’t we get an actual good song from the game? I’m tired of Lost in Thoughts, give me shit like Road Taken or A Dark Fall, that shit rocks
THAT'S ENOUGH, YOU IDIOTS WILL PAY FOR THIS, I WILL NOTIFY RESET ERA ABOUT THIS AND THE RESET ERA USERS WILL GIVE YOU A LESSON
FUCK YOU FIRE EMBLEM HATERS
Adrian Ortiz
rosterfags: >spam this board with multiple smash roster threads every hour >obsess over the same shortlist of "acceptable" characters while screeching at anyone who wants something different >believe every "leak" they see on the internet, no matter how bogus it is, as long as it has the characters they want >believe the smash roster is far more important than it actually is, to the point of expecting the industry to base their business decisions around it (for example: the months of persona 5 port-begging that followed joker's announcement) >care more about the roster than the actual game >overuse reddit-tier buzzwords like "reps" and "slots" in every post >talk out of their ass about series they've never played because they don't want a certain character "wasting a slot" in their party game (this is especially rampant with kirby) >come up with autistic "rules" to gatekeep the smash roster, even though they keep getting blown the fuck out that pretty much sums it up.
Andrew Wood
HOW DO I CLOSE A THREAD?!
OR DELETE IT?
Angel Hernandez
Not reading any of that but let me tell you what it actually means: Anyone that discusses the characters, in the game or requested, rather than gameplay or other content.
Cameron Rogers
Yeah, they will cut characters after having the tagline "Everyone is here" and expect people to not be dissapointed.
seeth harder
Christopher Rogers
POST CUTE KAZOOIE!
Kayden Wright
what if i want characters because of their potential moveset
That's retarded. People literally play Smash for the characters, that's not weird. No one would ever have given even a fraction of a fuck about this game if it had been Dragon King: The Fighting Game instead of a Nintendo crossover. People who play Smash purely for its gameplay over getting to play as a beloved character are an extremely tiny minority.
Jaxson Rogers
It is and banjo will never have a new platformer again.
I AM NOT STEVE COPE, MY REAL LIFE NAME IS JACOB SMITH
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO CLOSE A 4CHANNEL THREAD?
Owen Phillips
Okay rosterfag.
Kayden Johnson
This, entirely this.
Christian Sullivan
I’ve literally never heard of whoever Byleth is but that sucks you don’t like Banjo I guess. I personally wanted Geno myself
Lincoln Jenkins
>They hated user because he told them the truth.
Jaxon Collins
Am i missing something? Is this not just a variation of the Bomberman-fag pasta?
Samuel Baker
Ahhhhh shit I looked up who Byleth was. Can’t believe I fell for such obvious bait. I’ll take my leave now
Carson Roberts
That's what it means.
Christian Gonzalez
This term isn't even valid. "rosterfags" don't exist, because 98% of people who play Smash do it to play as a character they have an attachment to outside of Smash itself. That's like being mad that someone doesn't like the selection of cars or guns in a racing or FPS game.
Carter Williams
there can be only one swordsman in this town, fuckface
I'm not the one that coined the term, just telling you rosterfags what it means.
Julian Green
It basically means >anyone who doesn't think every character in the game was the best possible choice and that sakurai is perfect and always makes the correct decision 100% of the time
William Reed
No that's a denialfag, a subset of rosterfag. Rosterfags obsess over the roster in general.
Nolan Morales
>why did they put in this character people asked for!!! >they should of just chose characters that I would of liked!
Why are anti roster people like this? If you truly dont care about the roster and who does/doesnt deserve to be in smash, why is it such a big deal to you that they took one game to try and put in some highly requested characters? Imagine someone shrieking in rage because Ridley, K.Rool, the Belmonts and Banjo got in because it made people on the internet happy.
>Biggest waste of a slot in any fighting game. >SCV had 3 mimics Stop chatting out your arse
Best post in the thread
Carter James
I remember seeing this exact same thread way back when. Get over yourself, Stevefag.
>wanting another anime swordfighter >wanting another fire emblo >wanting a literal who character I know Shulk was created in 4 to shill Xenoblade but fuck, man. Byleth ain't fucking gettin' in. Neck yourself.
That's not the image at all, it's that Incelroar is furbait while Banjo isn't. When actually neither is the true, Banjo is a beloved platforming collect-a-thon character that was requested since 64 and Incelroar was a shillmon that nobody asked for that had to have gimmicks to stick out cause no one wanted him so inclusion wouldn't be as hated. Both are furry, but this also applies to any other characters that seem similar like The Hero & Link.
Hudson Fisher
> Using the Bomberman copypaste for your shitty FE character Fuck off weebshitter, get some original material instead of stealing from others. Fucking bastard
Camden White
Rosterfags are fucking hypocrites who don't give a shit about games.
Personality wise? Debatable? Icon and appearance wise? Not even fucking close.
Owen Evans
So hostile.
Eli Flores
If Incineroar can be compared to Tony the fucking Tiger, the commercial icon, then Banjo can definitely be compared to Goofy, the cartoon icon. Banjo is definitely renowned for being one of the most silly, irreverent, and downright goofy video game series there is, and the character himself is a beloved icon. The only real issue is Rare, who don't love or understand him.
Joshua Stewart
Incineroar = big cat Tony = big cat Banjo = Bear Goofy = Dog No, retard.
Brandon Ward
I wasnt talking about the image. I was talking about what the user said.
>SF >kids game Sigh. Smashfags are so in denial about the casual bullshit of their kids' games. Any Smash "pro" can potentially be beaten by a kid mashing buttons at random. Not possible with actual fighting games like SF.
Landon Hall
>> N
Lucas Perry
>he didn't play SF as a kid You missed out buddy. It's a perfect kid's series.
Parker Bennett
> Banjofags can't blankpost
Julian Young
>> B Embarrassing.
Dylan Perry
The argument came earlier and you ignored it
Colton Perez
Because 1) I had to google Byleth and 2) he/she looks like at least 5 other playable characters in smash
Super Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild take cues from Banjo-Kazooie. So do Grand Theft Auto and Assassin's Creed.
Nathan Martin
Fuck off Blockhead you Stevefags lost
Justin Brown
>being a kid when SF came out I was a teenager when the ORIGINAL SF (not 2) came out. Grow up, kid, and maybe you'll understand how SHIT Smashshit is. Doesn't even matter if you played SF as a kid, how is this even an argument? SF is a series not really made for kids even though you can fuck around with it as a kid. THE DIFFERENCE IS AS A KID YOU CAN'T BEAT PROS IN SF WHEN YOU CAN IN SMASHSHIT.
Austin James
>SF is a series not really made for kids You can't be this delusional.
Michael Sullivan
> Source: your ass
Camden Gomez
source: those games/series taking cues from Banjo-Kazooie.
Jacob Foster
We get it you like mature games for mature gamers like yourself.
Liam Hill
sounds like you suck at smash
Julian Cruz
No, the biggest waste of a slot goes to Joker.
Josiah Mitchell
Banjo is an iconic, beloved platforming titan. Rare dropping the ball and killing his series doesn't change that.
>Byleth O fuck off with your trash. I'd rather Nintendo make the Power Glove a fucking character than Mart #123401231208312903
Evan Campbell
>Banjo is an iconic, beloved platforming titan. No, let's not lie. It was the case during the N64 era, but Banjo definitely isn't on Mario and Sonic's level, neither on Crash and DK's level, hell, not even comparable to Rayman and Spyro. It might change if the new game that has been rumored is a huge succes, but at the moment, Banjo is only ever mentioned for Smash.
Charles King
Fucking agreed, OP. This is one of the reasons I liked Smash 4's newcomer lineup better. It had mostly popular, relevant characters instead of a bunch stupid, irrelevant cereal mascots.
Stevie Steve, Cope and seethe. Don't come back, Next time you leave.
Julian Sullivan
>It had mostly popular, relevant characters
O you fool. I want you to explain to me how Palutena was relevant, and Dunk Hunt Duo, and Mega Man, and Wii Fit Trainer, and Rosalina, and Bowser Jr, and cloud.
>Relevant The only relevant character in that picture is Ryu, and forced relevancy does not count (FE and Bayonetta). I seriously hope you're joking.
Ayden Rodriguez
The only character I'd trade Waluigi for here is Joker.
Austin Wood
Nah, he's as iconic now as he was in the N64 era if not more. A new game would be great but he doesn't need to be kept on life support to be an icon.
Bentley Clark
Being in smash is the worst thing that could happen to banjo and kazooie.
Tyler Ortiz
How can it possibly be worse than the Microsoft buyout? Or Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts? Or even Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing with Banjo-Kazooie?
Liam Cooper
Palutena was relevent at the time, considering Kid Icarus Uprising was released right before Sakurai planned Smash 4's roster back in early 2012
Jonathan Barnes
It won't lead to a new game but people will pretend it's still alive.
Tyler Gomez
It's always been alive. And if anything the massive response of love and joy might pierce the cynical and jaded hearts of Rare, those who have lost faith in the original Banjo-Kazooie.
Aaron Lewis
Real talk. Have you looked at the Smash Bros rooster?
Ayden Murphy
About as alive as metroid on the nintendo 64.
Thomas Morales
the shit storm when reimu gets in will be the biggest of our lifetime
Duck Hunt is representive of Nintendo's being the console most willing to innovate and try new things all the way back. Also his move set encompasses what a game like smash has the potential to be instead of another character whose entire gameplay is "is now a good time for a short hop air?"
Wyatt Powell
Mario characters are much more iconic and lively.
Asher Ward
Grunty is really bringing back her rhymes, right Kazooie?
Mario characters are great. But Rosalina is just nightgown Peach. Plant is more iconic than her. King Boo would be better that Rosaparks since he's become Luigi's Bowser. Galaxy was great but that's all Rosalina was needed for.
Nolan Ramirez
Just die already, Steve You are not welcome
Owen Foster
JRPG character designers are truly hacks. "uhh..... BELTS!"
Matthew Gray
There were literally tons of people who were excited about Incineroar. Yea Forums is mostly an echo chamber. On twitter when Incineroar was revealed there were plenty of people showing love for the character.
Julian Reyes
based, this is how you respond to fuckwits refusing to use their brain
Samuel Moore
You mean conceding because the other poster is right?
Matthew White
nope, it was actively not wanted especially among pokemon fans. pokemon has a nasty habit of making a new mascot every gen and shoving it into everything regardless if people like it or not. I get that the whole idea is to be a heel and unliked but damn they went too far
>years of context completely ignored >hurr durr banjo's a microsoft not a nintendo! ok
Aiden Morris
>New great character from classic Nintendo franchise's new game on switch >"No we don't want this character in our Nintendo character fighting game >Irrelevant character from decades ago, who is literally a Microsoft character >"Yes, this is the character we need in our Nintendo all-star fighting game!" You guys are dumb as shit.
>years of context completely ignored Rare was bought by microsoft many years ago. >hurr durr banjo's a microsoft not a nintendo! Yeah it's pretty clear and simple how ownership works. >ok Thanks for agreeing.
>b-but money transactions! seething retard can't put context clues together, this board is 18+
Dominic Morales
If this was true why would anyone hate Ridley as a boss or Bomberman and Rayman being trophies?
Brayden Thompson
Pokemon has millions of fans. Just like there are people who are vocal on whatever site about their disdain for whatever character, there are people who don't post their opinions online, who might appreciate the character. Some people who played sun & moon like Incineroar and liked to see him appear.
Also Smash Bros is not about adding characters that people want, it's about representing Nintendo.
Jeremiah Wilson
ok
Logan Jones
>New great character from classic Nintendo franchise's new game on switch OP forgot to mention any, so what are your ideas?
Mason Nguyen
>b-but money transactions! >money transactions can be waved away by green text Are you retarded?
Jack Green
Yes and that’s why Simon and Banjo are in
Parker Phillips
Be glad Banjo will likely be cut next game. You’ll get you wish user, Byleth is probably a lock for next game if three houses beats fates in sales.
Asher Thomas
Banjo is a cartoon animal. Incineroar is in all but human in a fur suit. Look at him. Tell me he doesn't look like a human in a animal suit verses Banjo which is a cartoon bear. Like, It's like thinking pic related looks like Incinaroar.
>Byleth. Literally who??? I'm actually being serious I have 0 idea who Byleth is, can anyone clue me in please? I am actually stumped as to whom OP is talking about.
It's still more important to have Incineroar in the game than Banjo, who is a dead character, rather than Incineroar, who's games sold tens of millions and is active. Doesn't matter if its shilling or not, thats irrelevant. Just like Nintendo and Gamefreak is shilling Incineroar, the fans are shilling Banjo. Only difference is there are millions of kids who have played pokemon recently while Banjo & Kazooie is dead & gone.
of course there are fans of every pokemon, especially one being shilled so hard. but it still stands that the vast majority of fans were not happy with its inclusion. whether that's obvious from the design or if its technical reasons being a longtime pokefan the character was a disaster and not well received. >Smash Bros is not about adding characters that people want, it's about representing Nintendo. even if this statement were true incineroar does a poor job representing nintendo and the pokemon franchise using little of it's actual moves and opting for copied moves from other heavies
Matthew Phillips
Jannies don't do shit faggot, they only do shit during a blue moon on friday the 13th stop
Colton Nguyen
See
Ayden Reed
Oh its another FE character that looks like every other FE character. Disappointed it wasn't anything actually interesting. Sad!
Somehow Kazooie doesn't exist. Gee for one whose all for female representation and even wants it you sure do seem to ignore a lot of it. Hypocrite much?
That tiger is boring, what a waste of a slot! There's nothing he does that a human cannot! If you have to add Pogies, they should be unique. This moveset of his is sure rather weak!
zss is the biggest waste of dev time, they made a character out of a 10 minute stealth section with one attack lmao
Ethan Nguyen
Banjo pilot, a racing game for the GBA, where you raced in planes, was originally going to be a diddy kong racing spin-off only focusing on planes, but then the buyout happened and it became banjo pilot instead.
anyone have the banjo steve webm. you know the one
James Butler
>he believes in "slots" Jesus christ have sex or grow up
Oliver Perry
>literally who
Elijah Torres
No clue dude.
Cooper Myers
Black hole thread
Asher Smith
But user, Chrom's already in the game
Ryder Thomas
It should just be on /vg/
Kayden Cruz
At first I believed so, but seeing the design in motion along with the moves I wasn't mad at all. I'd say characters like Olimar and Rob are a bigger waste but to each his own.
Jace Barnes
nah
Nathan Williams
Sounds reasonable.
Jason Wright
Super smash bros. is so based, it gets it's own board.
How will PSFags ever recover?
Brody Nelson
It would be a dead board in weeks.
Blake Cox
olimar is better than banjo.
Evan Turner
a /vg/ general would help better.
Charles Gray
> I'm both a Banjo Kazooie and Fire Emblem fan Gtfo, you're the reason everyone hates us FE fans.
Zachary Green
cope.
Jaxon Lopez
Smash is no pokemon not even close.
Charles Cox
Just wanted to stop in from the catalog to tell you that you're pathetic.
