New Ryzens for gaming

Is a 3600x a good upgrade from an I5 2400? Or what about the 3700x?

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>benchmarks
>9900k getting BTFO in almost everything workload related while drawing more power
>gaming benchmarks
>9900k only a few frames better on average

>3600x
Huge upgrade

>3700x
You probably won't notice a difference unless you're streaming or doing video production work.

I think i'll go with the 2400 then. I guess i'm a little leery of going with AMD after having been with Intel for so long, but Ryzen seems to be a big improvement.

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I was going to upgrade, but shits overpriced, might as well just get a 2700X or 8700k.

8700k is still one of the best gaming CPUs out

Eh, I just built my current rig last year. I'll upgrade next year, if anything. My 2600x has been doing just fine.

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Alright alright I missed the last thread. Was it good? Is it worth reading to understand how good this is for gaming?

I want a quick rundown on this.

for gaming they are getting close to the high end intels and alot less cost

Probably not worth getting these if I've got a 2600x, eh?

close to gaming in intel, much better for productivity and all that for much less cost

what about if you don't own any ryzen yet but want to jump on the bandwagon?

can't wait for custom coolers on the 5700 XT come august so we can see some real performance. i don't understand why AMD loves blowers so fucking much. as for the cpus, i think the 3700X is gonna be a staple for a pretty long time

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I can't wait to get this new processor, just so I can continue playing lazy, unoptimized console ports for another 5 years, instead of just getting a console for the same price that will do the exact same.
Face it, Pc Gayming is dead.

I was planning on getting a 2700x, now i'm not sure

should I go for a 3600 or a 3700x?

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I sold my 2600x two weeks ago for 150, got 3600 today for 190. Not so bad and it is kinda faster

Poor intelfags.

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Who here upgrading from Zen1/Zen+/i88*/i99*? Fuck poorfags.

How much is kinda?

This
AMD uses their R&D money primarily for consoles so who cares about piss sea gaming

This. Which one is better for videogames?

thats a big leap between 3600 and 3700x. 3600 is better than 2700x so thats that
like 15-20%

you'd be hard pressed not to grab a 3700X given its single threaded performance (which is especially important for gaming) and wattage, especially with the cpu/mobo bundles going on right now on newegg, some of which are already sold out.

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>total 194.99
>189.99 + 4.99 = 194.99
britbong education everyone

2600+580 8gb here. No reason to upgrade as every triple a game out there is absolute garbage and you can always lower the settings to get 60fps at 1080p on everything still. Also next gen consoles will be using RT so all the extra power will be wasted just on that so I doubt I'll even need to upgrade until the other next gen.

Not much availability in my country and the few outlets that sells them are scalping hard.

Can you run monster hunter world?

>mfw updating bios

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Yes, I mean the game runs on the base PS4/Xbone though I did have to lower some settings to keep it at 60fps.

>10-20% performance increase
>30-50% price increase
I'll wait until prices normalize.

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>Update my bios while a storm is brewing in my area
VERONICA

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how long should that take? When is the next revision?

download zip file from support site, put it on usb,extract it, flash from bios, its easy user

How can the jews even compete?

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what good are 6+ cores when modern games sometimes even fail to optimize 2 core usage

most manufacturers even provide windows installers for bios now

>upgrade now so you can have your pc beaten the shit out of by next gen consoles next year
im ok

>B450 Tomahawk
>3600X
>somehow snagged a 16GB 3200 CL14 kit
we're going home boys, I've been on this 2500k for far too long

PS5 runs on an RTX 2070. no btfo'ing in the next 10 years

both next gen consoles are confirmed on this exact architecture you stupid nigger

>PS5 runs on an Navi.
ftfy

very hard to say since benches are rigged in 3xxx favour(they use 3200 ram n new chips and 2666 ram on 2700x which needs 3200 or 3466 with fast timings to be worthwile).

It also has a laptop grade CPU, so be ready for more cinematic experiences where everything not related to visuals and sound could run on a 486.

Family members bought me an i5 8600k so I'm probably not going to upgrade for another 2 years

at 30 fps and 1080p. kys yourself console nibber

What games can't you play on a Ryzen 2600?

What games can't you play on a 3700X?

anything over 1080p with 60fps will be hard.

i'm guessing Battlefield V 60fps on 1440p is impossible with that setup

Currently running a 2700X, but it was time to drop the RX470

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And? Laptop cpus delivered fantastically for ps4 and pro. New consoles are using new zen 2 cpus and navi custom gpus. When ps4 and xbone came out they were already lacking, zen2 on other hand is extremaly current and has high bang for buck. Cant wait to see what exclusives sony will push with ps5

Thanks, so 2600 isn't even an option.

What could run Battlefield V 60fps on 1440p ?

Would this be an upgrade for an i7 4790k?

You'll get pretty much what you have now except at 4k or 1440p, except now devs will actually have to compress their textures because with the switch to an SSD you're not getting the increased storage space their current methods would require.

yes and no.

a 4790k is still a very capable processor and you would likely see negligible gaming improvement at 1440p or above.

where you'd see improvement is in multitasking or productivity. a 3700x will spank the 4790 in just about any intense multi threaded workload.

I feel like graphics cards never take into account of running multiple monitors for benchmarks. I like having youtube or similar open on one while playing Civ on the other a lot but I notice some slow down in later eras on my R9 390/Ryzen 1600X.

How long does it usually take for benchmarks to come out?
I can't decide between a 3700x and 3800x.

>How long does it usually take for benchmarks to come out?
Already out for 5h.

everything indicates to the 3700X being the new core i5 2500K

They are out and are coming out as we speak.

0 days 0 hours 0 minutes 0 seconds

Will upgrade from R1600 OC to R3800X. Not right now though, I'll wait for the prices to go down a bit
I'm happy with my current Ryzen but the motherfucker draws more than 130w sometimes and it's still not good a single threads.

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>browsing Yea Forums one thread at a time

I have a feeling my i5 8400 will still last me for another couple of years if I use my pc just for gayman. Maybe once they go down in price I'll check them out.

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So basically the 3700x is right up there with a 9700k for less, and the 5700xt is right up with a 2070 super?
I don't see anything on the 3800x but I assume it's safe to put it right in the middle of the 37 and 39.

>Overpriced
You can get 3600k for what 8700k costs

>how long should that take?
About the time intel anounces new chipset?

My i5 3570k serves me just fine still.

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3600

I didnt notice much difference in gaming while on dual monitors. I often have yt or neyflix playing on 2nd 1080p screen, while I game on 1440p120hz ultrawide with 2600x and 1080 ti.

I've got the poorfag-tron 3000 with a i5-4600k and a 1060 ti 6GB, will upgrading to a ryzen really make a difference?

570xt is more in line with 2060 super

Are you on 60 hz monitor? If then not really.

Yep a shitty 50 inch bravia so it's even worse.

Probably get a proper monitor before upgrading then.

>tfw just bought a 9700k in january
>tfw will always have buyers remorse

at least its technically better for gaming

I'd rather get a new videocard so I can get pretty Total War at decent frames but yeah, thanks.

>tfw high end intels only win in 1080p
>1440 and 4k its pretty much the same except the new AMD are cheaper, newer, less power and heat

Total War is fucked no matter the rig. It's terribly optimized.

watching hardwareunboxed's review now, I'll be sticking with Intel

I got questions

Monitors, or TVs? Justify your answer please, not asking for an essay a single meme reason would do.

What's the replacement for a Ryzen 2600x, if there is any?

What RAM should go along with it?

What's a good Nvidia card nowadays? Still the 1060 Ti or something?

>3700x is right up there with a 9700k
for video games? no, intel high end cpus are still the best in that regard
>5700xt is right up with a 2070 super?
right up with base 2070, better or worse on some benches
same situation as the previous 2 gens, if you want good all around cpu, ryzen
gaming and gaming only, intel

Three Kingdoms is slightly better.
Agree on Warhammer 2 and Attila though.

>3600 on par with my 4770 for gaming performance
noooo thank you.

>tfw just got a 2070
>hear the ps5 is better than it

hahahaha fuck me

The PS5 will perform about on par with a 1080. So not quite 2070.

>tfw bought a 3600X and in 2 weeks I'll also have a 2080 Super
finally i can make fun of poorfags with shit tier rigs

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jesus christ you faggots ruined /g/ with your constant ryzen shilling
fuck off back there

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what is really the difference between this and my 1600? my oc is still higher than the base freq on these.

I'm also still on my 3570k. Im really tempted to upgrade.

Need a new mobo for these, is there anything I have to do other than take the old one out and put the new one in?

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Which Will brick your board 33% of the time

Don't do it 3570bro. We need to stick together.

So is the 9900K still the fastest for gaming?

What mobo you have? A lot of old ones support 3000, just need to update bios

GIGABYTE GA-H97-HD3

99% of all statistics are made up

Is there any gaming benchmarks made with 1060s and comparing the 1600 instead of the 2600?

Oh yeah, ok. I thoufht you might have at least am4 one. Anyway dont go for x570 boards. Go for good 450/470 and they will cost less and will be almost same.

yes

b350 pc mate

Yeah, its supported, just update bios

I already have the MSI Tomahawk, but is there anything I have to do other than put it in, like reinstalling W10, or is that no longer needed?

Just curious, what games are you even going to play on it?

Need to update bios to latest revision

Control with RTX ON and Cyberpunk

It's interesting how close the stock boosts are from a super heavy manual overclocking

Currently on a 2700, the 3000 line looks really good but I don't have a real reason to upgrade. Still on a b350 board though, and while I know it'll work with it, this looks like the last line of AMD cpus that will support AM4 (AM4 support will be dropped in 2020). What AMD motherboard should I look at for upgrades?

i get a key for control with the gpu and i like remedy games
and later in the year ill pirate modern warfare and outer worlds and also play the surge 2

x570 probably. Though no need unless you're changing cpu

>just built a gaming rig with 2080ti and 9900k
still the king, baby

>Monitors, or TVs?
Depends on what you're looking for. Do you give no shits about things like input delay, size and bulk of the thing? Then either will suffice.

However if you care about input delay or build quality than you'll have to take a look at that, monitors are usually less expensive if you're looking for those features. Though TVs could have them too, I wouldn't know.

Anyway if you just need a screen for something then it shouldn't matter

You make absolutely no sense. Why do you prefer console over pc if they are the exact same price? You can do so much more with a pc

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STOP BUYING AMD, IT'S ANTI-SEMITISM

THE UN WILL KNOW ABOUT THIS

An ugly and obese king.

How much performance increase will I get if I'm upgrading from 3.16 GHz Core2duo?

a lot

He likes unreliable noisy hardware that get outdated in 2.5 years, ask for subscription fees to have the right to use the internel connection he paid for, and have a massive corporation decide which games and which content is appropriate for him.

First, sell it. Then stop buying from garbage OEMs.

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>3600x ordered since Scan UK listed the same price as the non x version
>Upgrading from an i5 6600k at 4.2Ghz
Can't wait. Though having to unbuild and reassemble my PC is gonna be a hassle. Hoping the 5700xt gets a good price once the third party cards are out since my GTX 1070 is struggling to max at 1440p with a few games now.

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boomer ass FX 6300 still going strong boys

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>What's the replacement for a Ryzen 2600x, if there is any?
For the new line? It should be the 3600x.
>What RAM should go along with it?
For the older lines I would say at least 16 gigs (preferably dual channel) of 3000mhz ram. However I believe the 3000 line eats up less ram? Not sure but I'd say to at least aim around there, if you really have to go lower you can always overclock your ram if your motherboard allows it.
>What's a good Nvidia card nowadays? Still the 1060 Ti or something?
Well I believe the 1060 6GB (there is no Ti 1060) is fine for gaming still, it all depends on what you're actually playing. The 1660Ti is the latest version of the xx60 line and is quite better and if you can get that, that's what I and most would recommend if you don't mind the asking price of it

>amdcucks coping so hard they had to come up with a jew boogeyman

>Upgrading one year before new consoles come out
yikes

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So, should I upgrade? and do I have to upgrade anything else?

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elaborate?

Oh no, how will I cope against low end underclocked APUs the next gen consoles will have.

fuck fuck fuck they are all SOLD OUT STILL

>Implying they won't be standard 8 core underclocked 3400s
Makes back compat easier and they ain't using anything higher than a 5700 anyway.

>not buying both

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>Value added tax
Imagine being this cucked

>cpu mostl ikely a 3600
>gpu as strong as a 2070
youll be lucky if you get ~50fps next year with the shit you buy this year bcs of shit optimization

My god that's some slow ass ram. If you're upgrading anything first, upgrade that. A DDR4 kit of 3200mhz is around $80, ESPECIALLY since you are on the 1000 cpu line

1070 is still a pretty good mid end card.

Again it's not worth upgrading if there isn't something you aren't already content with on your current specs. So if your happy with the performance your getting out of your current specs there isn't an issue really but...at least upgrade your ram, the ryzen 1000 line really likes at least 3000mhz.

thats 2100mhz

>cpu mostl ikely a 3600
It'll be a 3400x2 to make 8 cores like the current jaguar set up, makes back compat easier.
>gpu as strong as a 2070
What soruce says anywhere close to that? Also keep in mind everything in a console is underclocked and volted to reduce heat and power consumption. The Jaguar/Bulldozer architecture stock clocked at 3.5Ghz-4.1Ghz with turbo. The Xbone X has the highest clock speed after a console refresh at 2.3Ghz.

That's much better but I still recommend at least 3000mhz.

enjoy your 30fps

>Hardware is barely out
>Let alone APU dies
>Without even mentioning the inevitable underclock
We have zero idea what the next gen consoles are using other than a Navi GPU and Gen 2 Ryzen. Anything else is pure speculation.

>My god that's some slow ass ram. If you're upgrading anything first, upgrade that. A DDR4 kit of 3200mhz is around $80, ESPECIALLY since you are on the 1000 cpu line
Uhhhh, I do have DDR4 3200MHz. Speccy just shows it like that. Dunno why. Maybe I have to overclock it?

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on a 6600K, by the times I need an upgrade intel will be back on top

RAM doesn't need to be fast, unless you're using APU with shared ram, or you're gunning for 144fps++. For regular users, the most important part of ram is the size. It needs to be big enough so that the system doesn't need to use swap file/virtual memory.

Is it running at 32000mhz? Check in bios, maybe your xmp 2.0 setrings are fucked oe you havent updated board

>amd
Lol

When and what should I upgrade?

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Your recommendation means fuck all if you can't even understand Speccy.

Got a 3700x, get it tomorrow.

I'm excited.

>tfw have enough saved up to easily spend over $1k on a new build right now but just don't want to
There's just something so comfy to me about having low specs. I like seeing my pc struggle to run things, it's sort of a fetish

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Name 5 games made in the last 5 years that rub better on console. Hard mode: back it up with evidence

the only niggers around here who are poor would be AMD buyers son

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Fuck I was looking at it wrong, you got a point.

>4c4t security compromised ded socket
>2gb kepler
fucking everything sans storage and psu, maybe even that if you bought a chink unit.

>Continuing from old
Why the recurring threads? What's up with these new Ryzen chips to make people this excited?

Shills

$200 65w 3600 surpasses $400 140w 8700k

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AMD is relevant for the first time outside of 2012 and it's new hardware, new hardware that is good on top of that.

>amd

clearly GPU bottlenecked, pointless benchmarks.
t. 8700 owner

it lets the poor people feel better about not being able to afford intel parts.

i don't care what color the box comes in user, you shouldn't either. I'll gladly toss my 4690k in the trash now that AMD is competitive in IPC, the only thing intel had going for it. Spectre/meltdown/zombieload security breaches and 30 chipsets per socket don't fly anymore.

That's what I figured
I'd say the first Ryzen made their CPU line relevant again and that was, what, sometime around 2015?
That's enticing. I have to upgrade my CPU (and thus Mobo and RAM) soon but I don't want to spend $600 just to upgrade shit. I have an Nvidia GPU tho and I know the hot meme is to never mix AMD CPU & Nvidia GPU. Last thing I want is to get ragged on in speccy threads

>locked to windows10

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somethings fuckey about this. every other bench mark i've seen shows intels still at the top for 1080p gaming

>he doesn't use Linux
Yikes

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nothing is locked to W10

>windows
user, I...

>playing any Remedy game past MP2
Disgusting user, disgusting.

>2080 ti
subtlety is a virtue user

You should use Windows 10 with them anyway since MS made improvements to the scheduler specifically for ryzen.

a 2080 TI can bottleneck you down to 30 fps if you turn on any RTX features. since most of those games don't support RTX I'm assuming they ran them at 4K or with MSAA.

>an actual marketing thread for a CPU
Okay this is epic. Next time do a CPU preorder thread

>windows

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Would I see a noticeable difference upgrading from an i5 4690 to a 3600? I have a gtx 1660 ti

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much cheaper to get a decent b450/x470 board with competent VRMs. Can come out to around $400.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ZwVuH_tinzgpsOdfMvYeCLI5ZbIpnq5fyiWD4NCkkU/edit#gid=0

pcpartpicker.com/list/QkJc29

Based.

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youtube.com/watch?v=cIA9-2UDKHs

1080p for each setup

In CPU bottlenecked games yes. Overall? No not right now. Ubi wank will work way better since it hates 4c/4t. But most games are GPU bound so you're fine. Just wait till 4c/4t is obsolete in a couple years then upgrade.

Give me the best setup right now for 1080 60 fps that will last through the next generation

I swear here are some retards that are Playing games without GPU and think CPUS are an usefull upgrade

Thanks for the advice

>Nvidia and AMD slashing prices at each other to stay competitive
>Intel continues to overcharge their outdated CPUs even when AMD is beating them in both price and performance
Wew lad

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Far cry and any other dunia/cryengine games prefer single threaded performance.

X470-F gaming

3900x overclocked at 5,5ghz with liquid nitrogen. 2x titan rtx and 64gb of ddr4 4000mhz ram

3600/5700 easily. The next gen consoles will probably use an underclocked 5700 chasing 4k, and they'll use 2x3400 to hit 8c/8t like the current Jaguar set up to ease back compat without having a huge CPU bottleneck again. Having said that any idrange/high end set up will do 1080p fine through next gen, since they'll be wasting a tonne of power chasing 4k+RTX.

How much better is single core performance? I have a [email protected] GHz

>>Intel continues to overcharge their outdated CPUs
But user, there are rumours that Intel will cut up to 15% off their shit soon to combat AMD.

60hz? nah
above 60hz? go for it

see

5700 is trash

blower cooler trash

temperature trash

overclocking trash

2060 super would be better

Is it worth getting the 2600x over the 2600 even when I don't plan to overclock?
They cost the same

anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar

>In the majority of controlled tests, AMD has done something they haven’t been able to achieve in almost 15 years, since the tail-end of the Athlon 64's reign in 2005: that is to have a CPU microarchitecture with higher performance per clock than Intel's leading architecture.
>Ultimately, while AMD still lags behind Intel in gaming performance, the gap has narrowed immensely, to the point that Ryzen CPUs are no longer something to be dismissed if you want to have a high-end gaming machine.
>This is no longer the story of the AMD that is trying to catch up to Intel; this is now the story of the AMD that is once more a formidable rival to Intel.
Man, I've been waiting to read that since the Core 2 came on the market.

Why does AMD overcharge you for importing out of the US? It's one of the reasons im always reluctant to order anything them because it usually comes out at double the intended price

More so if you don't plan to overclock. X is just higher freqeuncies at stock, which usually you just buy the non X version and overlcok it to.
Reference AMD cards always suck, the third party cards will be out soon and rectify that though.

So, what should I get?
I thought about buying a R5 2600 and something like a 1660Ti or 2060

>15%
lel

So, until when will Intel starts bribing retailers again to to sell AMD cpus?

*to not sell AMD cpus?

What?

Anyone still on an x370 board looking to upgrade? Which one are going for?

extremetech.com/computing/184323-intel-stuck-with-1-45-billion-fine-in-europe-for-unfair-and-damaging-practices-against-amd

Those problems are only reference card issues. And a 2060 Super is more expensive.

Ye I haven't updated my bios in a long while, cause I remember when I first got it I tried setting XMP profile 1 couple times and it never really worked for me.

based
the only problem are the shit motherboards

8700k or Ryzen 5 3600X boys?

I plan to get a Super 2070 if AMD can't make a similar card for a better price

I play games and do heavy image editing / art.

So realistically how long till 4 cores and threads is outdated? People bring up Ubioft games but I've always heard that's due to their awful double layer DRM hitting the CPU.

>heavy image editing / art.
Then 3700X would be a much better choice.

Planning to build my first ever gaming PC.

Is there any disadvantage to pairing a GTX 1070 with a Ryzen 3700 in terms of performance compared to an AMD card? What would be a comparable AMD GPU?

Using a FX 8350 right now. I take it that upgrading to this new Ryzen 5 3600 is going to be a gigantic upgrade in every single way?

whys that? I don't quite understand CPU stats.

A couple years. Intel have switched their lower end i3s to 4c/4t which isn't exactly a good sign. But on the plus side the vast majority of games are GPU bound anyway. Maybe the next gen consoles will hammer 6+ cores being madatory faster, but even then they'll still be a cross gen mix as usual holding that transition back.
>I've always heard that's due to their awful double layer DRM hitting the CPU.
It is. But they're also not gonna stop using it so raw CPU power to overcome it is really the only option.

More cores/threads. It has better multithreaded performance vs 3600X. Although if the extra $70 isn't in your budget the 3600X will still probably be fine.

>Is there any disadvantage to pairing a GTX 1070 with a Ryzen 3700
No. Stop listening the retards who say never pair AMD+Nvidia.
>What would be a comparable AMD GPU?
5700 so far, it's slightly more powerful and does 1440p with a lot more ease than the aging GTX 1070 according to Digital Foundry.

just get a 5700, $350 for 1080/2060 performance

>tfw upgrading from an FX8350 build to a Ryzen 3600 soon.

Yes. I remember upgrading from 8350 to ryzen 1300x and it was nice leap already
Basically amd is really optimized for workloads. Its super good for workstations

how much better is this compared to the 1600?

>competent VRMs
What's that?

>90C at 52 db
>just get it bro

They're useful if you're playing VR or do things other than just gaming and word processing.

Has ryzen support in emulators gotten better recently?
That's the only reason why I haven't switched from intel yet since most emulators are developed around intel cpus.

Why choose Ryzen 5 over Ryzen 7?

I don't understand how product lines work

Tech Deals meme man did a video on just that question.
youtube.com/watch?v=n0uB17Io2is
TLDW: They're both good but Ryzen build is probably going to be cheaper.

Yes, but worse in everything else and is pricier

You can play Switch games at 60+fps on a ryzen 2600x

50% faster

wow brand new AMD is barely on par with a 2 or 3 year old intel

I've not known major emulators to have issues with AMD cpus for years.

It's their shit driver support for openGL that's the problem, and that only applies to AMD gpus.

My machine has an older 8350 bulldozer CPU inside and I've been wanting to build a new rig for a while now. I guess nows the time

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As ever.
But video editing/rendering is suddenly immensely important, I guess you just need to buy 12 cores and start a shill channel.

Yeah you tell that stupid goy, Intel forever baybeh!

>with AMD cpus for years.
Yeah but are they Ryzen? AMD was hot garbage before Ryzen.

The new ryzen chips look excellent, but all the benchmarks i've seen are about stock settings, not maximum daily driver overclock performance. That's what I actually care about. Are there any reliable numbers for 5.2 ghz 8700k or 9900k vs. high overclocked ryzen 3?

security patches

>todays midrange is yesterdays high end
Who would have guessed.

Ryzen doesn't overclock, period. All core overclock will result in lower gaming performance, all the reviews show it.

>advanced chink devices
nah get a fucked bro

Actual, 100% jew here and I've only been buying AMD since Ryzen has come out and have actively shitted on intel and told people to buy ryzen cpus over intels.

But yeah those kikes have no other choice but to lower their prices now.

What the fuck, how is that possible

What exactly do you mean by "productivity"

So if I have an AM3+ motherboard currently I'm going to get an x570 AM4? Do you think there will be any that are Mini ITX and not almost $200 by the end of the year?

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I don't think they overclock very well
higher ipc clock for clock, but they don't clock as high

Because they are already clocked as high as reasonably possible, overclocking all cores prevents boost on just a few of them and games aren't that well threaded.

This.
I for one LOVE having my CPU speeds lowered multiple times, information possibly stolen and all for a higher price!

What do you need the x570 for?

5700XT + Ryzen 3700 ordered.

Feels fucking great man. Just making the final selection of screen now, looking for 1440p+144fps support but having a bit of difficulty picking out which will have the nicest colours.

lmgtfy.com/?q=motherboard vrm what is?

Yes I did! Now to pick a mobo and RAM

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wait for custom cards from sapphire retard

ive been playing PCSX2 on a R7 1700 4k 60 FPS for years

depends on game

I have a 2080Ti

Anything but gigabyte

>comes with RGB cooler
huh
they any good?

Unironically based.

Can I just buy any AM4 motherboard? I thought there were people mentioning earlier only certain ones were compatible with the new gen Ryzens.

>tfw 2500k
AFAIK it still isn't bottlenecking anything except with CPU intensive stuff like grand strategy games. And I always put off upgrading CPU because it's a pain in the ass having to always replace the board along with the CPU itself.

I'll be going with AMD whenever I do end up upgrading though. Fuck (((intel)))

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>they any good?
Yeah, unless you're into hardcore overclocking.

expected of a blower, AMD is notorious for questionable stock voltages. Basic undervolt/overclock should sort things.

I was going to build a new PC and originally decided on a 1070 Ti and Ryzen 7 2700X; should I just get the 3600 instead? seems cheaper and better
probably a X470 motherboard too

all I want is 1080p 60fps on upcoming games, never really desire to go above that

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good for you? Was there any need to point I out aside from le ebin flex on le 4chins?

>Can I just buy any AM4 motherboard?
Yeah, just look for those that specifically say they also support the new Ryzen CPU.
For those you'll need maybe a BIOS update or they may come already updated if you're buying new.

This, I want to know was well. Does any AM4 motherboard works? What should I look when I stare at a motherboard specs?

>should I just get the 3600 instead?
Yes. Price is the only factor since 3600 beats the 2700x hands down, and if it's cheaper that factor is gone.

>1070 ti

no

In short, yes

Neat, I'm not planning on upgrading until the end of the year so I'll just grab one of those then, thanks user.

What's a better alternative?

It depends what CPU you want and your use case really. x470 work just as well as x570 so unless you want the x570 features there's no need to spend that much. If you're looking at low-mid range you could even get a B450 so long as it lets you update the bios via a usb stick. New Ryzen doesn't seem to overclock well so the need to get a good board for overclock is minimized.

You sure you're not doing anything wrong with it?
Anyway with amd cards always buy from sapphire.

I have a GTX 1060 6GB, is it worth upgrading?

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get one of the new super cards, and a 3700x
you'll want at least an 8 core for next gen games.

>get one of the new super cards,
user, the 5700 are almost on the same level as the super cards and much more cheaper.
Unless you wanna wait for the partner cards.

what monitor?

ryzen is good for all emulators except the ps3's but that's still a big work in progress so not much loss there

Old, 1080 60hz. Bought it with a 970 in mind

AMD nuthuggers aren't going to like this but don't get used to it. Intel didn't bother to innovate for a decade because they didn't have to. Lake after lake after lake rehash filled their pockets nicely. They knew they had to shift gears when Ryzen came out and their response my be delayed by a year or two but it will come. If you look at the long-term record of Intel and AMD Intel is the stable one and AMD only shows up every once in a while. AMD is showing up right now. It has happened before and hopefully it will happen again (I don't want to imagine a world where only Intel produces powerful desktop CPUs). But it's a phase, not the new status quo.

posting this from a Ryzen 2200G media machine btw.

Replacing your GPU with a CPU would be a bold move but it's so crazy it just might work. I say go for it.

Try to get something with freesync/g-sync if you can

>amd
pass

amd nuthuggers like that amd is bad. it's why they buy their products in the first place, because they can convince themselves that they are getting the "best bang for the buck" by siding with the underdog.

>2020
>intel unleashes super saiyan god tier CPUs
>AMD becomes obsolete for the next decade

never go AMD, just wait for the real upgrade.

Intel plain fucked up. They should have been well into their 10nm process by now, and beating AMD even with their new Zen offerings.

don't buy hardware unless you need to

What are the best motherboard manufacturers for the AM4 socket?

i sleep

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What should I upgrade next? My best buddy just did a major upgrade and I'm jealous.

I know basically nothing about computer shit despite being a PC gamer, I figure my stuff is not that good anymore though, the graphics card is the most recent part. I don't even know what a CPU or GPU does.

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I've upgraded once in the last twelve years. I barely play vidya but do some rendering and encoding and looking at /g/ there seems to be utterly no consensus on whixh benchmarks are even real. Are we supposed to buy this or wait for the next big thing?

looks perfectly fine to me, unless you upgrade your monitor that is

look up benchmarks for the software you use and compare that to your current results. This is not common sense it seems.

maybe a bigger SSD though

Buy this because the next big thing will get 10% more performance for 3x the price from Intel.

Keep that gpu, upgrading would be a waste of money.

My monitor is a really nice big curved one, and yeah, it's not like I do anything that really pushes my PC, I just never want to get to the point where I feel like I'm pushing it. There's shit in there that's years old, but I don't know what to actually do to make it better.

I could definitely use some more storage space, but I'd rather spend money on something to make it stronger/faster.

Why are you jealous? Want more grafics get a new graphics card. Maybe upgrade OS and give feeling of something new without anything actually being new.

I can only recommend gigabyte, for any socket. I happen to own a x470 am4 from biostar but not sure if any of the issues I've had were caused by it (or if they were caused by various AMD APU related things being unpolished) (euphemism) so no recommendation.

msi

I don't trust paid websites, only a fool would google something and believe everything they read blindly.

The common sense of a dog is not the same common sense of a human. You're low IQ.

Thanks, so gigachad or msi are good to go

Wait till the next gen consoles come out, then upgrade everything. There isn't a single component that's bottlenecking, and at 1080p a 1060 is perfectly fine.

I'm jealous because of testosterone. My PC was stronger than his and then he flipped it on me.

Yeah, there isn't actually a good/logical reason. But me need stronger machine.

>reddit

MSI b350 Krait

Alright user, sounds good, will do.

7600k @4.5 here
everything works fine
might wait for Ryzen 4000 or ice lake/comet lake/whatever it's called

>Just look to see if my i5 4690K bottlenecking my RX 480 yet in games I play
>Nope it's the GPU hitting 100%

This fucking CPU man. Still would love to have those multitasking speed though as this little i5 DOES show it's age in that regard.

I am a poor slav so i buy poor components. Right now i have 7870 for like 7 years. Somebody tell me, 580 or pay 20euro more and 1660? Also, there are no "free games" deal with amd gpus here.

should i upgrade from my 3570k?
currently 3570k oc 4.5ghz
evga gtx 1070
1080p 144hz monitor

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>tfw jewpilled

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Can you still maintain a consistent 144 fps with the games you play? If so, no, if not, then yes

How are prime day deals? I wanna get some new ram and a chinese desk for cheap.

Having more cores doesn't mean much.
Difference between a 2600 and 2700 for example is that you're delivering the same performance to 2 extra cores.
Single thread is the same, and applications using 12 threads won't benefit from a 16 thread CPUs

Not sure what the fuck is up with my temps, but this is my meme machine. I'm only looking to unfuck my storage and ssd at the moment. The TV was some shit I found on the street and worked just fine after some cleaning, replacing that soon.

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any upgrade would be a waste. the CPUs out now and coming out this year or next year don't offer a significant boost over yours except in heavy multi-threaded loads like streaming or offline rendering. you're going to have to wait at least until Intel releases a 10nm or smaller architecture, no "lake" refresh or Ryzen will be worth upgrading to. These 3000 Ryzen chips are Ryzen perfected. The third iteration. The next after that will be a mild clock increase, years until a true increase in performance from your starting point.

Please stop ordering furniture from Amazon.
t. UPS

So Ryzen 5 focuses on strong single threads while Ryzen 7 focuses on multi threads?

Then Ryzen 5 would be better for gaming than Ryzen 7, objectively speaking, right?

>john blender is out to get me
I bet you run windows 7 because it's "more secure" than w10.

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Here we have an user with an IQ lower than his CPU has cores.

What exactly is it that stalled their 10nm work?

Nope, I run Linux. Nice projection memelord. Who's paying you?

>all these people thinking they're fine with their current processors
>having to chose between hyper threading or a secure CPU

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BETTER NOT BE NO FUCKING *BUNTU OR MINT

There are benchmarks where Ryzen 5 actually does get better perf than an equivalent R7, but in most games that doesn’t happen.

While your game will only use so many threads, your PC will have shit running in the background that also use CPU threads. An R7 gives the PC more overhead to split load between different threads and not have your game performance be as affected by random background operations than your R5 would.
Modern Windows has game mode which tries to stop background tasks while gaming, but its still a factor, especially if you multitask and aren’t just using the pc for games

You basically don't need 7 or threadrippers unless you're doing shit other than gaming. It's just a waste. Those processors are for rendering, encoding, streaming, etc. Heavy multitasking.

If you're just going to game and do 1 or 2 things just get a 5. People even buy 3 since it's just for gaming

You honestly are fine if you're on an i5+ 3XXX / Zen+ or above
t. 2600x waiting a few more months on zen2

are the 3000 series cards likely to go on sale at this year's black friday?
I wanna get them as cheap as possible

I see, but what if you are just using your PC for games? A computer has no purpose for me besides playing games, I have a cellphone for everything else, even posting here.

I will take this into consideration tho
>Ryzen 5 actually does get better perf than an equivalent R7
All this talk about how many anons own a R5 made me believe R5 is the best line ever.

screenfetch

>Upgrading when you don't need to
My CPU isn't hitting 100% playing vidya so I see no reason to upgrade.

did Zen2 manage to catch up to intel in IPC?
also I might want an upgrade if next consoles have a 8c/16t ryzen, but right now even the few ubi games I've played (For Honor, Ghost Recon Wildlands) didn't seem to mind 4c/4t

it's probably the best time to get them regardless. AMD always ages better with time. And launch hardware always has problems, like fedora even booting into its installer right now
>using fedora
And i'm sure there's more problems to be found on both Linux and Windows. But you probably won't get anything above ~15%

thanks for delivering my packages some of the time, and be glad no one sells crts anymore

not even booting*

I hope you realize just because your cpu isn't getting capped it doesn't mean you can't get better performance. But yeah, if you aren't dipping below 60 in all your games, there's no point.

I have an R5 1600 but I wanna upgrade to a 3700x for sweet extra frames and being able to stream high quality for friends.

R9 looks good too, but not good enough to justify the price hike for me. R5 line is the absolute best value for your dollar when it comes to strictly gaming though, so do not hesitate on it. Ryzen 3700x and the RTX 2070 Super looks like the absolute dream perfect combo for 1440p gaming at above 60fps but still being conscious of spending, budget, and value for price. That's my goal, but to upgrade to that, I gotta wait for my motherboard to get a bios update to support Ryzen 3000.

Any upgrades I should get aside from a not shit monitor and ssd?

>What exactly is it that stalled their 10nm work?

I heard changing up their manufacturing process

from the benchmarks that are out so far it looks like the 3000s are very close in games. the 3900X is almost equal to the 9900K in Crysis 3, a well-threaded game. But then you look at something like Deus Ex Mankind Divided and the Ryzens fail catch up even with lower Intel models.

techreport.com/review/34672/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-and-ryzen-9-3900x-cpus-reviewed/10/

complacency and mismanagement

It really just depends on what the devs were using and testing on, and most use Intel. But next year is going to really change now that AMD are in both consoles.

pic related. the game isn't new, nor are the majority of these CPUs so that difference is bound to stay.

that's a reasonable hope but I wouldn't preemptively buy hardware based on this expectation.

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What motherboard should I get for a 3200g that I'm building for my little brother? I don't have an older Ryzen to flash the bios.

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cheapest supported b350 and up should be fine. Get a cheap secondhand athlon or 1st gen ryzen to update bios or return one from amazon.

should be more than fine (cheaper than some b350)
amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-Thermal-Motherboard/dp/B07FWY246F
if you want to go cheaper you could drop down to
amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-A320M-S2H-MicroATX-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B079NYQQJJ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=gigabyte a320&qid=1562533910&s=electronics&sr=1-1

>all this hype "intel and nvidia are dead this time for sure" for months
>barely keeping behind performance for a few saved bux AS FUCKING ALWAYS
I swear team red degenerates are the most unbelievable imbeciles on this planet. Will you ever stop?

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oops, yeah check support first before you buy anything, as most gigabytes require a bios update for zen2, and even new ones still ship 2 versions behind.

>lmao why do you people like saving money???

Hey I managed to get it to 2933, 3200 was unstable.

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i love saving money, which is why i only hire indian it drones

>he fell for muh "cpu virus" jew meme
>he thinks it can be exploited by anyone other than a jew himself
>he thinks jew didn't put a backdoor in his "new" processor
I am sharing the board with such degenerates.
How coincidental we get stable 10% performance increase with every new cpu in the series. It is like they feed us "performance" by tiny measured bits to sell a new cpu every year. Real progress doesn't work that way, moron.

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>REEE 3 TIMES BETTER THAN TOP INTEL PERFORMANCE FOR $150 BUX I SWEAR THIS TIME
>next month on release:
>save $20, get 5 fps less of the competitor with a chance of some additional headache
Revolutionary.

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alright thanks anons ill figure something out

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I have the same issue with my 1600X on an Asrock AB350 Pro4. Not sure if it's the motherboard or a fluke of the first-gen chips, but I have to run my DDR4-3200 at 3000 or it will randomly hang. I'll be replacing both this fall anyway along with getting one of the new Radeons.

Lmao AMD cucks , when will you learn.. My I9 9900K OC AND RTX 2080ti STRIX says be gone

>save $20
i mean, it's obviously more than that. But AMD right now is either a long-term investment, or a wait 6 months/year kind of deal on both fronts. As their drivers and performance only get better with time. This has been proved time and time again going several generations back. So eventually 5700XT will probably be on par or pass a 2070S, and possibly even trade with 2080S. And Ryzen is already trading with Intel's top CPU on launch, so thats an even shorter wait.

>save $20,
that's awesome and I will take it.

the new ones have no fixes either. Where did you assume from they fixed it?

>No mention of the speeds outside of gaming
Hmm.

>mfw my B350 Tomahawk can't be updated for ryzen 3000s
>Only the B350 Tomahawk Plus

MSI You son of a bitch.

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i'd like to know that too,from what i've found last year some pc part went on sale

any benchmarks on emulators? Ryzen 5 2600 was shit at emulation

based

>speeds outside of gaming
>Yea Forums
>gaming board

yikes

always stay 1-2 levels below top chipsets if you're looking to use new middle-high end hardware.
x370/470 should be most people here who plan to run 3600x+

Why the FUCK aren't the 5700 cards launching with custom coolers? AMD's stock coolers are notoriously garbage.

>buying reference cards ever
wait for sapphire

Be patient. They'll come in a couple months, and then you'll have a GPU that will carry you for 5 years.

undervolting takes care of throttling and drops temps significantly if you really want the reference cooler, but i'd still just get an aftermarket cooler come august

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I know they're coming, but why don't they launch with them? They're only hurting their own sales.

Bros should I get a Ryzen 5 1600 or a Ryzen 3 3200g?

>3700x benches lower than a 9600k
fuck you amd

>tfw I thought about upgrading but just unlocked +100/+370 via overclocking
all is good, yet

3200g if you absolutely can't afford a discrete GPU and CPU

Looking into parts for a PC this week. I got 1850 maple bucks or $1415 in real money. Is that enough for a PC that will last me into the next console gen considering I'm fine with graphics looking like 7th gen but in 1080p + 60 FPS?

Can you install win7 on them?

>11fps stutters in Fortnite

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>he cares about fortnite

>gym membership or upgrade

Such is life of a poorfag

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good map design epic gays

Yeah we know that PS5 has crossplay with Mac OSX

>Laptop cpus delivered fantastically for ps4 and pro
No 1080p60. No 4kp60.
Not admirable. Quite bad. Really simple.

>1080
more than enough.

because that's how it works. The GPU manufacturer makes a reference model and then 3rd party manufacturers can work on custom models. You don't want AMD to adopt the Nvidia business model of making the reference model overpriced as fuck.

>going to the gym
what a moron

Everything you need for exercise is available at your home, what it isn't, you can buy it. Stop wasting money.

The best custom coolers don't come preinstalled. Buy the reference model and add a Morpheus II.

that's a big girl

then give me the cheapest gym kit that covers everything
and no, I won't lift tanks of water

>the cheapest gym kit
Jesus, you're not even trying to think for a moment what you could use at home for replacement to what you have at the gym.

Are you literally all muscle and no brain? lmao

I have a discrete GPU

If you are going with Ryzen 3000, try and hit 3600MHz RAM, it can have huge performance implications because the RAM speed is linked to the interconnect clock for the cores (well, technically the chiplets, via the "infinity fabric" which they communicate acros).

So if your RAM is less than 3600MHz, your chiplets can't talk as often, and performance drops. Sometimes this is a big deal, sometimes not, I'm surprised AMD haven't been more vocal about this given the benchmarks I've seen, maybe it only really matters for games.

Do some research as always

amd said 3733 and then forbes said 3600. which is it

Absolutely baseless claim

WHY THE FUCK IS THE 3700X SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE GODDAMNIT

3200 is more than enough.

>"OF COURSE IT'S WORTH A HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE FOR WORSE MULTITHREAD PERFORMANCE, IT'S A JUSTIFIED PURCHASE!"

>4690k light OC
>1080ti
>Shit tier ram
My processor still runs strong outside if strategy games at 4k like Warhammer 2. It starts to die when there's 8k zombies running around.

then why the fuck are you buying an APU?

I've got 2x8GB DDR4-3000 CL16 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX. How would you tweak it?

I have a Ryzen 5 1400 and a B350M Pro I've been using since 2016. Is it worth upgrading? I have a 1060 6gb and I can still run new games on max or close to max settings at 2440x1440

Find a balance between memory speeds and timings.
fast speeds mean fuck all if your timings are shit.
There's DDR4 calcs to help you, or just look up a tutorial from your favorite youtuber.

I'd probably upgrade before the new consoles hit, so you're ready for next years fall flagships. So you have plenty of time, plus you can wait for drivers and firmware to get better.

techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-memory-tweaking-overclocking-guide/

read this, follow the instructions.

>the hardware used in new consoles magically appears out of thin air the day before they release
Their hardware is already finalized. If you buy now, you'll be on par with them.

for sub 50fps it's 3-5fps gain. not worth it.

Is it finally time to get rid of my I5 2500k+ bros?
Hes had a good run but I think my gtx 1080 might be throttling a bit

I hope it's updated for Zen 3000

Probably yes, maybe even wait for the ryzen 7 3750

at emulation?