Healer player here. Sch and ast both at 80, working on whm now. From running these dungeons in 5.0 a bunch, I've had multiple dps players run off and grab aggro on mobs and force the tank to pull more. Then they argue with me when I tell them to stop it cause that's not their job. I'm glad you guys don't have TP and can spam aoe all you want now, but please be aware that:
1: Outgoing damage has increased and tanks and healers are adjusting to new amounts of damage
2: Tanks and healers both lost a fair amount of buttons and mitigation (convalecense, eye for an eye, etc..)
3: Healing potency hasn't really increased, meaning healers have a harder time healing bigger amounts of damage now
4: Enemies have bigger health pools so they take longer to kill, which means more auto attack damage the tank is dealing with.
Also 5.0 is still in its first official week. Let people learn and get comfortable with their jobs.
Just because you want to spam aoe skills on huge pulls doesn't mean you need to force the tank and healer to stress. You don't know what cooldowns the tanks and healers have used. Your job is to sit there, kill the mobs, and go at the pace the tanks want to go at. If they want to go slow through a dungeon, that's up to them, not you. Not every tank is comfortable handling 10 mobs at a time. Pulling mobs in 5.0 is not the same as it was in 4.0. I'm not trying to discourage people from playing tanks and healers, i'm asking that some dps players not be so impatient.
AST main here. Level 74. Describe more on how you like the Job.
Asher Stewart
I started leveling a tank for the first time four days ago. While tanking isn't such a stressful job I thought it would be I truly had no idea dps players actually ran in front of the tank to pull mobs.
I've never done it and rarely see others do but by god every little ranged dps Sprout run ahead to pull
Luke Wood
>sprout Maybe it's a WoWfugee thing.
Dominic Parker
Why does ast buff give less raid damage than a whm simply attacking? That doesn't really make any sense. Not to mention the crappy potency on heals and shields all around the place. As for op the main topic, no, it's pretty Also no op, it's pretty easy even as the worse healer to heal a tank through large pulls.
Where the hell do we go from here folks? This MSQ was actually god tier, how will they ever top this? Is it all downhill from this point onwards?
Evan Scott
I too browse reddit and post their shit here too. Also if dps aren't using aoe skills on 2+ mobs then get the fuck out.
Thomas Reed
dont paste reddit threads here you cunt
Brandon Garcia
holy shit if you have problems keeping wallpulling tanks up in the 71-80 dungeons you probably should quit healing and go back to wow. ive leveled WHM and SCH to 80 and not even once a tank died doing wall pulls while leveling. you must be some brainlet to not be able to press a button for a minute while using cd's. theres also nothing worse than tanks not doing wall pulls aswell.
Matthew James
What world on Primal are people trying to spawn Formidable? Looking to join the FATE train.
Landon King
the oldest rule of tanking in mmos my dude.
if the dps are spergs and take aggro by dropping all their shit asap, the right course of action is to let them die.
same if they start attacking things when you're gathering a train of sparsely spread out mobs and they start breaking off. don't adjust and backtrack to retake aggro. let them wipe.
Its because most of FFXIV's NA players think having 2 more minutes in a dungeon is wasted time. Same goes raiding Savage and not being allowed to roll on shit because others haven't gotten anything yet
Carter Moore
My friend just started a bit ago with very little MMO experience. The only issue he's running into as a drg is that tanks pull whole dungeons and he doesn't know what's going on. Says it feels frantic and he's just trying to keep up because he doesn't know the dungeons at all. I can tank/heal but not always around. He'll get more experience over time I'm sure but I never really thought about early dungeons being a completely different experience for a new player
That's probably not the best way to ease yourself in but if you can, make sure you do the guildhests with him. And 100% be there in aurum vale with him.
Wyatt Ward
Still alive on the Source
Carson Howard
Maybe it's just me but if I'm doing a dungeon for the first time and I'm pulling slower than usual and a DPS pulls for me, I don't go "WAAAA HOW DARE THE DPS PULL! >:( IM GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ON EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA."
I just think, damn I guess I can pull more. Didn't think I would be able to handle it but if they've seen other tanks do it....
Fucking estrogen mentality.
Brody Brooks
Boost SAM?
Nathan Torres
>your counterpart in another shard dies >feel this overwhelming sadness for just a moment
Isaiah Myers
The problem is that it's not fun at all to spam benefic since they took away Celestial Oppositions stun for no goddamn reason. Which before was about the only place you could sometimes get a gravity in during large pulls.
Not as if it matters now. Gravity fucking sucks. GDI.
Anthony Jackson
for what purpose
William Hernandez
>still can't wear crafter/gatherer AF on combat jobs >can't even wear across crafters
Cameron Martinez
No, SAM starts at 50 anyway, why boost?
Joseph Murphy
Tfw WoW endgame zoomers are basically ruining the genre for themselves I honestly don't understand
>crappy potency on heals and shields all around the place.
They have no idea what to do with ASTs when the other two healers cover pretty much everything and it shows. Yoshi is trying to set AST as this "middle of the road" job but ends up failing on everything that a WHM or a SCH excels at, be it pure heals, regen or shields.
I've had THREE (3) fucking ASTs yesterday ask me to not do big pulls in the ShB dungeons because they quite literally can't handle it.
Christian Sanchez
I assumed the potency changes were still in progress or balanced around the new content. I was willing to give them the benefic of the doubt. I admit I was wrong.
Austin Bailey
>Avatar is a significantly healthier looking version of the chubby sperg every time Everything he said in the video was 100% correct but people pretend that him buying a story skip later on somehow magically makes the story immune to criticism
Isaiah Parker
It wasn't his game. Fine. But being contrinarian for the sake of it is just fucking stupid.
Grayson Murphy
>unironically recommending skip potions He deserved any abuse he got.
David Sanchez
I hate this shit, even some of the generic shared gear shared between DoL / DoH would look great on combat jobs. Why do they waste so much resources on this shit? I just glam my crafter stuff to a tuxedo anyway
Literally everyone thinks that the ARR 100 Quest marathon is bad and needs a redesign, but that sort of investment and handwork is exactly what makes MMOs great, I'd rather do the ARR 100 quests than play BFA
Ryder Ortiz
What if you leveled the classes up on an alt but you really want to get all classes to 80 on your main?
I've leveled 4 characters 1-60 and 2 to 70. The fucking leveling experience is just fine.
Carson Edwards
I like a healer/magic character and Tank/physical character ;(
Hudson Jackson
luck, that's all there is to it. >tfw you get a small plot in 10 minutes of clicking >tfw logging in right as autodemo resumed and getting your pick of any plot you want
Shb is good but come on. ARR-SB fucking suck cock. The story is garbage and whoever wrote Shb saved the game. The only people who will enjoy slogging through arr-sb leveling and msq are trannies.
That webm title is inaccurate though, Shadowbringers did save FFXIV.
Luis Williams
oh no, it's started. They're starting to pretend heavensward was bad.
Logan Stewart
Dont you know most of the people use scripts? Thats why they use busy status, so you dnt fuck with it. T. One scriptfag told me I am harrasing him yesterday.
I wish they stopped selling those skip potions, the 1-50 leveling experience serves as a nice pleb filter.
Parker Sanchez
I need more Ryne in skimpy outfits
Eli Sullivan
>left around 4.3 >alphinaud duty out of nowhere >just spam ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin ruin >pray return to the steppe >hold forward on my airplane for 5 minutes >some nigger is randomly challenging me to a duel What the FUCKING shit is stormblood about anymore, fuck this garbage padding i want to go to the first already
Jacob Sanchez
Anyone know if the special fates can spawn per instance or if they spawn somewhere on the server that's it?
Elijah Thompson
Based and redpilled
Levi Price
Admittedly it's fucking rough. In wall to wall as WHM or SCH you can buckle the tank into his safety belt and start big healing. As AST You need to use horoscope (if available) dignity tons of benefits, all 4 regens, and Helios to make it through. Going into the next pull completely spent.
The 100(one hundred) potency loss on CU hamstrung us and they didn't add that shit back into our other heals so we're just constantly weak as shit. The regends from AH also require it to be cast twice as often which makes it simply unsustainable now. Combust THREE is weaker than combust TWO in SB so we contribute less to shit even during small pulls.
The leveling experience is quite frustrating. Because even when I use all my tools I don't feel like I'm doing fuck all. Also the affect of actually ACTIVATING Horoscope is so shit that it threatens to give me an existential crisis. There is no effect. It's like they gave up halfway into this job.
Jackson Hernandez
each instance can give it, same with hunts
Camden Evans
Why is Shadowbringers so fucking bad? Why did it have to be this way? ;_;
Adrian Hughes
AUTHORS OF OUR FATES
Bentley Flores
ARR 7/10 HW 8/10 SB 7/10 SHB 9/10
Chase Miller
just play them on the same character what are you doing
William Reyes
The problem is when people say "It's good at endgame" that's incumbent on you having witnessed everything up to then and understanding the story, not skipping it all like an idiot. The short version of his criticism is "0/10 too much story"
Juan Thompson
I wish a healer would queue into Sirensong Sea.
Colton Wright
Female Viera for Tank/Physical Female Lalafell for Healer/Magic
Nathaniel Ortiz
Relax user, you're almost through it. You'll be able to experience pure kino very soon.
Nathan Hill
>SHB 9/10 What cost ShB 1 point? It's damn near flawless to me, and I even play AST
Wyatt Murphy
I unironically enjoyed all of ARR's story, including the Titan and Garuda portions
William Roberts
>Shadowbringers >Bad What are you on about lad?
Shame you missed the mass Gunbreaker/Dancer levelling at the start of early access, Sirensong Sea would pop up in the Levelling Roulette near-constantly.
Nolan Diaz
The story is the best part of this game. Jesus.
Easton Jones
>What cost ShB 1 point? absence of loli vieras
Kevin Flores
You're a fucking fool, alts are useless for XIV.
Wyatt Torres
What is the intended purpose of reprise for rdm?
Adrian Gutierrez
He said "It very well could have a great story, but I wouldn't know, because you have to read."
Chase Peterson
9/10 is my default top score, not all of ShB is out yet, we'll have to wait and see
Robert Diaz
>join clear party because why not help these people and I could use an extra point for rerolling khloe's tales >everyone says they've seen enrage >tank keeps fucking up the simplest of mechanics leading to multiple wipes Either you saw enrage or you didnt, dont fucking lie about it when you havent seen the fight at all. I have patience, but after 8 wipes of repeating the same mistake over and over, the group isnt going anywhere unless they're removed
What are some jackets that have collars like the Level 60 Gunbreaker gear does? I really like the style of it.
Julian Peterson
SE doesn't know how to design or balance anything that isn't DPS.
Asher Adams
Nobody fits into trick attack neatly anymore.
Jacob Baker
Well fuck him
Gavin Lopez
Ishgardians are fucking bland. Dragons are boring as fuck. Thordan is kinda cool but only at the very end. lmao let me drop eye off bridge no one will ever find it.
It's honestly depressing how cyclical this place is on all matters.
Cooper Taylor
ARR is pretty shit so I can understand skipping that.
Leo Jackson
>Levelling Dancer at the start of early access >Run Sirensong sea a billion times >Come across an absolute legend of a tank who pulls both groups of mobs after the 2nd midboss and tells me to use my Ranged DPS LB on them >Fastest run I've ever had of it
Eli Perry
I play using a controller
Elijah Anderson
What did you expect when no major MMO is as story focused as XIV? It doesn't help that the majority of WoW players have never touched a single JRPG or any other MMO before. They see the raids and think that's the meat of the game rather than something to challenge yourself with between MSQ patches.
Nathan Johnson
Tank balance is really good this time around but heck, that's just because everyone has the same cooldowns and is basically blue dps now. Obviously the solution is to make all healers green DPS, then it will balance it out.
If it didn't cost W/B mana, it would be the RDM Scathe. If it still had the Media Tour potency, it would be somewhat useful as a dump tool when you accidentally go over 50/50 right when Manafication comes up. As it is right now, it is even less useful than the Drg spear toss.
Julian Smith
But I was told healers were going to spend all their time healing and that's why these changes were necessary.
Parker Scott
I already had pso2 to make any animal eared big hipped loli i want. xiv is too much of a reddit normalfag game for that
Adam Hernandez
its for when youre moving and cant cast anything for a bit. just throw a few of those out there. its only 10/10
Juan Hall
What's enrage?
Nathan Morgan
New player here, convince me not to make a lalafel.
When you take to long and the boss goes ape mode, think about when you took to long to get a job and so your dad threw you out of the house
Elijah Butler
Getting ready for Eureka 2.0
Jaxson Myers
DRG is good but it still isn't fun
Sebastian Garcia
When the boss does an isntantkill attack after failing to be killed within the timeframe of the fight. Most fights are around 10-12 minutes before the boss enrages, but unless you're doing extreme or savage raids, you dont have to worry about it. The dungeon fight with an enrage that comes to mind is the second boss in Stone Vigil Hard and it's basically impossible to see unless something very VERY wrong has happened
Landon Cooper
friendly reminder that WHM, SCH and AST are going to get even more nerfed now that solo healing is the most viable strat.
Jose Nelson
WHM's damage only applies when it's allowed to be green DPS. You still need another healer whether it's SCH or a second WHM.
The 2.5 story patch is the foundation which future content up until this very day built upon. You and the rest of the main cast, even in Shadowbringers, were shaped (and continue to be influenced) by those last few quests in ARR.
Niggers who buy the story skip in a game called Final Fantasy, and then wander into their first dungeon expecting the game to cater to them deserve everything they'll get. The game isn't for them and would rather pretend that they didn't exist.
Jeremiah Thompson
Thancred death fakeout was handled absolutely awfully
Jaxson Gray
They outright can't nerf AST anymore because it can't handle that strat to begin with. And if they do nerf it again it won't be able to do casual shit and will outright go back to 4.0 status.
Josiah Adams
When a boss does an instant kill teamwide attack if the fight is taking too long. Every savage raid fight and extreme primal has one.
Ethan Watson
>wall pulls as whm >falling asleep just holy stuning and pushing a heal button hear and there using dps kit non stop. free mp forever >wall pulls as sch >do one or two aoes rest of the time desperately sweat and spam every heal button there is.
>Decide to run the well with sch since smn is ass to play right now >viera gunbreaker twice in a row I now see why people say gunbreakers melt so fucking quickly.
>think about when you took to long to get a job and so your dad threw you out of the house Well my parents were divorced and I was raised by mother so I never really had a dad or proper father figure to kick me out, checkmate. I did leave of my own accord but I leech money off the government to live so my life is still just as pathetic.
Nolan White
>AST nerfed in it's current state Just delete it from the game
What the hell is this fat fuck's problem? Does he think that if he dares say good things about good games then he'll stop getting sponsored by shit games?
Kevin Morris
>yshtola dies >jk she doesnt >thancred dies >jk he doesnt how fucking retarded
Easton Taylor
Is there a list somewhere of how long each EX fight is before Enrage?
Cooper Baker
brainlet is was never a death scene but maybe the shitty english script led you to think that.
Parker Walker
>Started two weeks ago >Finally make it near the end of ARR Post game What a wild ride, its fucking amazing how much of a difference between the base game and post game >mfw
While part of me was glad we got a good story without anyone killed off for the sake of drama, Thancred had a lot of build up and it was pretty lame to have all that but still keep him alive, especially after the y'shtola fakeout
Benjamin Sanders
If AST gets nerfed again it might very well end up matching BLU in uselessness. Not just parse obsession uselessness, but actual "can't clear content" uselessness.
Ayden Bell
LA-HEE
Justin Long
>do small pull >dps goes off and starts pulling shit >we die >dps complains >start pulling bigger groups >we die because healer can't cope, even with cooldowns >dps complains fuck dps players desu
Ethan Turner
>get to lvl 78 on SCH >suddenly dont have to do anything anymore lol
Liam Parker
well not because of the class, they have some of the best mitigation
Nicholas Ross
>Do the MS roulette because might as well get exp >People still don't understand that when Livia is aggroed onto you that you have to move away from the cannons
Are people so obsessed with shaving 5 seconds off of a roulette that they're willing destroy a loaded cannon and magitek claw just in hopes they can fire it before she destroys them?
Colton Carter
What does that even mean? Wandering into a dungeon expecting the game to cater to them? Some people just skip so they can skip the boring leveling process. And some people don't give a shit about story in mmos and just enjoy gameplay, which sucks dick in XIV until max level (or 70).
Liam Rogers
SLOPPY It will make sense in due time.
Angel Wilson
You're about to enter Heavensward territory, user. Enjoy a pretty good MSQ and great post-MSQ.
Jayden Martinez
>Subfaggotry Go breathe saltwater faggot. The "le somber gunblade camera angle" is basically as close to a death scene as you can get and that doesn't change whether you're listening to it in english, moonspeak or fucking yiddish.
Jace Carter
Please tell me if I should play MCH or BRD.
Chase Torres
Well, most timeline style guides will tell you, but you have to go look for them individually. I am fairly certain nobody ever bothered to gather all the data in a single place.
Gavin Phillips
>Your job is to sit there, kill the mobs, and go at the pace the tanks want to go at Your job is to suck my dick, and go at the pace I want to go at.
Hunter Rogers
wait until you get to 80 then when every pack chunks the tank for 90% every 2 seconds
Henry Adams
Probably I've had a run where I and like two other dudes were the only ones who even know what to do to damage Livia
Lincoln Murphy
but user im lvl 80
Josiah Williams
If we have free mp, why even have a bar?
Angel Gonzalez
MCH for low ping BRD elsewise.
Angel Jackson
Not just solo healing, but solo healing without using GCD heals.
SE has no idea how healers even function. Their strength comes from how ridiculous oGCDs are compared to GCD heals.
oGCD heals should be supplementary, not primary.
Matthew Jenkins
Please tell me why people can't do the Briars or Tether part of Titania. ALSO TANKS SOMEHOW CAN'T TANK THE ADDS.
Charles Lee
what's taking that metascore so long I wanna shitpost and rub it in WoWfags faces already
Connor Cruz
Don't have low ping just want to know which one is more FUN
Aaron Ward
MCH is barely outdamaging BRD at the moment. If you care about having a raid slot, play BRD.
Anthony King
My bad, jacking off.
Noah Ross
The y'shtola fakeout was kinda okay, it was obvious she was fine and it was more about developing emet than anything else. And it wasn't him staying alive that was the problem, it was the sudden change from the death scene to just seeing him sitting fine with Urianger and co. and being immediately dungeon ready. If we had to look for his unconscious body or something it would be okay but god that was bad
Isaiah Moore
Which part of mch rotation requires low ping? The heat blast weave?
Isaiah Wood
Dunno. High grade retardation maybe? Also, only 2 adds need to be tanked.
Isaiah Moore
Yeah, the story swings back and forth from a snoozefest to fucking amazing.
However, if you made it that far I think you're going to enjoy the ride.
Nolan Gonzalez
Still primary if you're ast >horoscope requires Helios or Aspected Helios >two stacks of ED can't fullheal shit >star is still good >CO fucking sucks now >Actual mp problems. What the fuck is even going on right now.
Elijah Robinson
stop playing "mmos" with matchmaking dungeons and teleports into instances. rushfaggots will always exist in this environment.
Cameron Smith
yes.
Jose King
Honestly BRD and MCH seem cool the only reason I'm hesitant to level one is because I already got DNC to 80 and I have all the gear and gearing a class is like all the fun at max level so there's nothing to do with them once I get there.
Connor Cook
The tether is a poorly done mechanic because most people dont realize they need fo run in front of it, not to the person with the tether.
Jack Taylor
>Don't have low ping Then MCH will be pure suffering for you. The job was designed around having JP ping -- if you lack this, you will hate it.
Ethan King
Here is your (you). HW was Kino as fuck especially with it's later MSQs.
the opener and the heatblast weave. You have to double weave each step of your combo going into your HB and then weave 3 into your HB. You will be weaving inside 1.5 constantly. If you clip twice you lose a heatblast which is a massive potency loss adding up. Don't weave and you overcap which is also a massive potency loss.
AST was always the weakest in mp management. Now that you actually have to heal and not just throw ogcds, you are feeling the heat.
Jaxon Taylor
Most people don't realize jack shit in this game, that doesn't mean it's a poorly done mechanic.
Jack Ross
I think it's just that people don't understand how the aggro works in that fight.
Luke Martinez
Horoscope doesn't feel like it's own heal, it feels like it's literally required to make aspected helios worth casting ever.
Jason Carter
ARR 4.5/10 HW 7/10 SB 4/10 SHB 9/10
David Gomez
based yoshi and his weaves
Joseph Williams
They're emphasizing how outright batshit insane he is now. He was supposed to be batshit insane in HW but instead the writer just gave him fight autism.
It was the weakest sure but before you could CO your Lucid Dreaming to extend it and had access to emergency oh shit Ewer that could give you enough to at least keep somebody alive.
The fact that horoscope has no animation when you activate it has me feeling all kinds of ways.
Cooper Wood
the nu mou bit in ShB is total fucking TRASH
Carson Lewis
I think you mean >that whole shitty trolley faggots arc
Leo Parker
>And some people don't give a shit about story in mmos and just enjoy gameplay
Then they shouldn't play something in a franchise known for its focus in storytelling.
Subjective opinions about the story are all well and good but this game has an audience, and that audience will laugh at you when you say "skip the story lmao".
>we're going to balance healers in this expansion so we're not adding one! >completely dumpstering all over healer design destroying what little semblance of fun they had left Nani
Josiah Adams
>hating the bestest boys
Jayden Stewart
I actually agree with this 100% so you can have it.
Alexander Carter
And the fact that you can activate horoscope and trigger it with people out of range and they won't be healed and you don't get a second chance to detonate their buff, it just slowly expires. It should self-detonate on depletion like the star.
Camden Thomas
Kinda sad Lyna didn't have a bigger role to play.
Logan Thomas
>whole arc just to get a trolley pushed what the fuck was all that about?
Angel Perry
>think people hate mch's aesthetic so they give it a facelift >make the gameplay even more ass and more of why nobody liked it
How can SE be so fucking retarded?
Kevin Gomez
Swap SB and ARR. SB may not have been good, but at least it didn't have fucking Titan, or two entire dungeons of unskippable garbage cutscenes.
Charles Morgan
So whats wrong with storm blood? I haven't gotten up to that one yet
Grayson Sanders
trolley was the most kino part of the expansion don't (You) me
Nolan Butler
After maining healers for 6 years I can't play any tank or dps except paladin and red mage since I need to be able to recover from dipshits fucking up.
Adrian Rivera
they're a bunch of faggots
Justin Butler
immediate gratification defeats the purpose of an mmo
I don't think ARR was that good, and I might agree with you on SB only because patch 4.4/4.5 were good, but the base story for SB is like 3/10 at best
Thomas Thompson
TROUBLE WITH THE TROLLEY, EH?
Kevin Peterson
WHM gets to have fun. SCH doesn't get to have fun but at least it's actually really good and the perfect co-healer to WHM. AST is shit don't play it.
Jacob Reyes
>So whats wrong with storm blood? china themes and subhumans being retarded
Liam Phillips
Bunny guard captain
Henry Ward
Yeah. I know. You'd think she would be more important as a trust.
Gabriel Thomas
Actually low IQ sorry you need Koji to give you succor cause you can't understand the language the game is written in.
Julian Martin
Should I play this if I was a rogue main in vanilla WoW?
Connor Bailey
A shitty main villain and a shitty main ally >He's a newfag Prae and Castrum didn't have unskippable cutscenes until SB you fucking newfag, and everything starting with the titan fight is great
David Anderson
it doesnt matter how much you buff blm yoshida we are not tkaing it into raid
I thought using Doom Spike for free was good but holy shit unlocking Sonic Thrust as an AoE combo AND it replenishes your BoTD bar? Fucking aces.
Jordan Cooper
W h o ?
Levi Myers
should have been the jap expansion but it was just half a jap expansion
Grayson Gomez
You can't pk in this game if that's what you're asking.
Cooper Cook
I'd recommend it if you were a druid main in Cata. Depending on what you play in this you're going to need piano fingers.
Michael Brooks
JP and EN scripts are wirtten simultaneously you fucking retard
Jayden Reed
post-patch ARR becomes a solid 7 the moment Midgardsormr is introduced and you know it.
Kevin Miller
>you're going to need piano fingers lol what's the most """"""""apm intensive""""""" job in this game?
Ethan Turner
How can anyone possibly defend the fucking quests where you're trying to get that stone to power up the Talos to push you across the trolley tracks? Absolutely the worst downhill part of a story I've ever experienced.
>Prae and Castrum didn't have unskippable cutscenes until SB you fucking newfag And it somehow managed to be even more shit before they were unskippable. ARR's conclusion at launch didn't even exist, because new players couldn't even experience it as everyone skipped the entire dungeon.
>and everything starting with the titan fight is great Now that's fucking laughable. The best parts of ARR are at best equal to the worst parts of SB. SB was shit, yes, but ARR was a garbage fire.
Alexander Jenkins
How come they end up so different then?
Jaxon Smith
like the other user said. ninja in this is piano fingers. also lowest dps
Anthony Murphy
>everyone lying to make you feel better >alisaie just starts crying
bros how can a giraffe (female) be so perfect
Ayden Williams
Yeah, but the stuff between ifrit and titan is all pretty shit, and ARR as a whole does drag on for just a little bit too long
Landon Lee
Currently, NIN, MCH and maybe MNK.
Chase Anderson
Except for WAR being even more grug tier than before. I actually enjoyed stance dancing and now I have a even more brain dead rotation than even PLD faggots.
>He can't comprehend the sheer kino of the trolley you ain't my nigga >Hurr the conclusion having unskippable cutscenes makes it BAD >Hurr people skipping the cutscenes makes it BAD What a fucking retard
Logan Howard
I assumed he was going to want to play NIN. Which requires the piano.
Luis Sullivan
Because that's a leveling dungeon, those dps are probably maxed out and can solo tank all dungeon without you.
Landon Gonzalez
It gets better soon, then not for a while, then it gets so much better.
Daniel Sanchez
That happens every expansion too.
Robert Anderson
MNK is super low APM now ever since they got gutted. MCH is also not that impressive except during overheat windows.
NIN > SMN > MCH is the current APM count. SMN is fucking spam-happy crazy bullshit.
Matthew Gomez
Thordan EX is amazing Level 80 trial is absolute, pure, unfiltered kino on every imaginable level
James Hall
Some are better some are worse
Connor Russell
Easily, I can defend them due to the fact that that small quest chain was A: establishing the scion's relationship with the people of the village there, and B: establishing how Talos work.
Both of which are in service of setting up the sheer awesomeness of everyone in Norvrandt coming together to work on a massive rock giant that GRABS A FLOATING VOLCANO SO YOU CAN CLIMB UP IT AND KILL A FUCKING ANGEL
Gabriel Lewis
>lowest dps
Part of the reason why I played rogue was to top damage meters
Bentley Harris
Depends on how much you like Asia.
I had more fun learning about the tribes in the Azim Steppes than the actual main story of the expansion
Michael Taylor
cutscenes look goofy and depending on your outfit/datacentre you'll get creepers on you play what you want no-one with a brain actually cares ingame
Eli Robinson
>doing soroban extreme as blm >tataru keeps dragging shit into me nice a very final fantasy xiv: a realm reborn experience
Xavier Martinez
What does "vet farm party" mean in the context of party finder?
Nolan Nelson
haha that wacky Urianger went missing while swimming 10 miles through the ocean when he doesn't actually know how to swim. Lets all have a laugh about how he is probably dead instead of being concerned.
Cameron Baker
If you want highest personal damage numbers, BLM or SAM. But NIN is the absolute best for raid-wide damage.
Liam Wright
Azim Steppe was really good though, so that isn't surprising
Liam Bailey
Help just finished ARR but cant find where to trade allagan tomestones, rowena just talks to me idk where to go
Gabriel Adams
NIN is lowest pDPS, highest rDPS. They're a support job.
If you're looking for big dick damage, pick up BLM, or SAM if it has to be a melee. SAM's always been second fiddle to BLM and is even more so in ShB, but hopefully buffs will bring SAM and MCH up to BLM's current nonsense so all three greedy DPS are viable choices and not just BLM.
Ryder Turner
Transfer tethers can be really fucky sometimes though. I've seen people still get orb'd in Chaos even when the tank ran through the tether.
Luke Robinson
Every job has like 6 buttons to press now under 50...The filter makes no fucking sense now.
Josiah Cox
People use busy because you can interrupt anyone who's not with trades and they're paranoid and desperate.
Jaxon Clark
It does get better, or probably already did but you skipped it assuming you're a new player that doesn't do the endgame content from each expansion. Make sure you do.
Also Thordan is a joke in normal mode, try doing the extreme. It even has different and better music.
Jackson Scott
kek
Gabriel Bell
>spend all night trying to spawn the Kholusia FATE boss >suddenly a shout that he spawned in the other instance >warp over >fly over >he dies as I land This is Ixion all over again
they didn't put korea in the game so eorzean asia is automatically okay
Jacob Jenkins
>like night blessing/hate trolley >Like trolley/hate night blessing Which one are you?
Luis Cooper
It means it's a clearing party for the party lead's friend.
Nathan White
lmao urianger you're STILL mad?
Owen Miller
>NIN is the absolute best for raid-wide damage. Not anymore DNC is better overall and NIN's rDPS contribution doesn't make up for its lack of pDPS, it's purely a parsetranny job now As things should be.
Anthony Carter
originally king thordan's fight was going to be far more complciated with you fighting all the knights, but they toned it down
I imagine it's going to be that way if we get Thordan Ultimate this expansion.
>some guy suggests to Yoshi that we get a useless Tataru as a trust >Yoshi thinks that's a brilliant idea
looking forward to it
Jayden Sanchez
How do I make sure my Drill always lines up with Reassemble after the opener
Because of our power creep 1-50 teaches you absolutely nothing and you have to learn from 50-60 instead.
You bulldoze through everything with your unlimited TPless AOE now.
Luis Cook
To be fair, having to actually tank the boss as a DPS/Healer is something that almost never happens in a normal situation.
Lucas Wilson
if you don't get hit by anything you can fuck her afterwards
Samuel Bennett
I hated the trolley until that dipshit kept talking about making a giant one for the giant golem.
Eli Sullivan
Don't worry, it's not actually worth it.
Jordan Price
DNC is lower than NIN in both rDPS and pDPS.
DNC is pretty much garbage at the moment, actually.
Gabriel Scott
They need to make horoscope atleast be the same as Excog or ES that when the duration ends it still heals anyway.
Isaiah Davis
they did put the fantasy equivalent of poo in the loos though so that's a minus
Levi Williams
Like both Fight me
Robert Hughes
What materia should I put on a healer?
Nathaniel Wood
Always use it on cooldown. If you delay Drill for any reason you unsync yourself and will take a loss eventually. Do it often enough and you lose an entire reass or an entire drill. Unsync your reass hard enough and you lose an entire REASS Dril/AA which is a massive loss.
Never delay using Drill ever ever.
Michael Ramirez
What are you?
Liam Nguyen
get a linkshell or something. I hopped into another server that had one spawned took me about 5 mins and still made it in time to have full rewards.
Carter Price
Apparently, whoever set that trolley system up could make golems, but couldn't make a normal engine.
Blake Anderson
SMN players are switching to RDM so they can continue to prog as a caster.
Blake Turner
Piety (until you have enough MP to clear content) > Crit > Det.
Jordan Davis
Healer
Austin Wright
Basically drop a Earthly Star and that's about the only dps contribution you do untill there are maybe 3 mobs left.
Asher Hughes
>night's blessing is a bunch of savages with stupid beliefs >trolleyfags just have train autism
trolleybros
Liam Campbell
DNC actually sucks right now or so I've heard.
Easton Perry
Scholar here, stop complaining you idiot, you're the one with Rescue so it's you who should be tugging the drooling tank babby in the direction of the newly pulled mobs. If you think you can't keep up with heals, consider putting all of your skills on the fucking hotbars and think again, otherwise blame the tank. Healers put out retarded AoE damage in dungeons btw, it's also your job to hammer Art of War/Holy/Gravity whenever you can.
Crit for WHM and SCH Piety for AST Alternatively kill yourself, it's more pleasant than playing AST
Julian White
>You can't use the Exarch or Lyna again as Trusts after finishing the story. Goddamnit SE.
Thomas Foster
Crit, Det, Spellspeed, Direct Hit, Piety in this order. Outside of spamming your AoE attacks MP is a nonissue nowadays so there's no point in any Piety on your gear, it's a wasted stat. There's a lot of i430 pieces that are better than the Goetia set because of that.
Jonathan Carter
Fine you shit, then crit and det. If you are a parse tranny ditch the crit and meld dh instead. If you are AST, just go fuck yourself.
You don't depending on either your gear or your tanks. You won't be able to deal. Assuming both of you are of par. You spam benefic and don't stop even for cards.
Caleb Price
both are kind of boring but night blessing brought us the >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS NOT FAIR IT WAS MY TURN TO FUCK Y'STHOLA THEY CANT GET AWAY WITH THIS and trouble with the trolley gives us foreshadowing for the giant talos
They're definitely going to rework the trust system if enough people do it.
Ryder Sullivan
The mystel invented talos, they're hyper-autistic so they couldn't think of a sensible solution Which is why they're so fucking based Why do you think we pull a fucking mountain down instead of just fly up there with our pixie niggas
So we're getting Ascian as dps (conjuring weapons) and Sin Eater as healer for 6.0 right?
Easton Allen
>If you are a parse tranny ditch the crit and meld dh instead No, for max parses it's Crit > DH > Det. Crit is better than DH in terms of both DPS and healing, whereas DH is better than Det for DPS but useless for healing and Det is good for both.
Cameron Adams
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah where the fuck is the frog fate
Carson Morris
Wait, then who tanks Lakeland? Do they just replace every dungeon trust with the scions and Minifilia?
Hunter Watson
Thanks. I swear sometimes though if I try to time a overheat with drill to cap it off after it ends reassemble is off by like 4/5 seconds. Is it the 2.44 gcd I have right now? It's hard to explain past that point but it doesn't feel like it's lining up as neat as it's supposed to
sometimes i just wish overheat was 6 seconds so leeway would exist in these windows but then I guarantee people would find a way to fit in 6 blasts anyways
Blake Rodriguez
6.0 will have only one new job, and it will be a magic DPS.
Please look forward to it.
Juan Richardson
>instead of just fly up there with our pixie niggas Pretty sure the Exarch's drones showed us exactly why we didn't do that.
Speaking of DPS checks, the fucking Titania check is rough when you're unlucky with groups. I've seen multiple groups disband there because you get unlucky and have four sub-5k DPS mouthbreathers who cannot clear the check.
Dylan Garcia
is it? from my experience it's just been stay out of the laserbeams and that's it
Aiden Gonzalez
>fly up there with our pixie niggas And get annihilated like those drones? Heavens no.
Julian Wright
The pixies can do dumb magic shit, there's no way they wouldn't be able to hide or shield us on the way up
Brody Thompson
This isn't late 4.0 anymore, crit values aren't high enough to be better than dh as a dps stat so it should be DH>crit. But who gives a fuck? It's literally for padding and showing off your e-peen on fflogs.
How to fix AST with no effort: Double the potency of literally every heal, triple EDs potency Quadruple the potency of gravity Have Horoscope detonate when it expires Have Neutral Sect apply to Celestial Intersection (Why the fuck doesn't it already?) Double the duration of Diurnal Aspected Benefic and the potency Halve the cooldown for Divination
Maybe then it'll come close to WHM
Tyler Collins
I've been tanking as DRK the whole time and my ability to multipull is basically entirely on whether or not the healer is a dumbass. No class has stood out as incapable of keeping me up even in The Twinning or Akadaemia, it's just whether or not they can play their class for shit. I've done biggest possible pulls in Akadaemia and been fine, and I've had people who can't keep me up with two pulls in fuckin Dohn Mheg when I've got every defensive on cooldown all the time. At that point I do just do single pulls but it's because I don't trust them. It's never the ones that are focused on doing damage too much or whatever, it's always the ones that spend a lot of time doing nothing. And it's usually Viera with stupidfucking rabbit themed names in Shisui gear. So those % based buffs you have right now are going to scale up with your DPS players being better at their new shit and getting higher numbers. Obviously AST and SCH are going to get buffed to shit because WHM isn't allowed to be good, but even as is, later on AST's buffs would start edging them out ahead just due to scaling. Drop the gloom and doom and let WHM be happy for a week or two when there's no content to do, you know how SE and healer balance is.
Austin Edwards
Actually, no, crit is fucking ridiculous in this expansion. They tweaked the crit formula, and it's even better now than it ever was. Every job should be slotting crit right now, with it only getting more ridiculous as stats get higher.
Unrelated to OP but please do tell me if the "Everlasting Light" weather still makes comeback after I've finished MSQ
Isaiah Butler
>Helpers are welcome >Kill party >limits party composition for some meta bullshit like forcing BLM, DNC, NIN, DRG in DPS slots Why are idiots always like this?
Blake Walker
Pixies and the frog fucks are faggots. The Nu Mou and the Amaro are the best of the bunch
John Gomez
5.3 Please look forward to it.
Liam James
Yeah. In NG+
Brandon Parker
I don't always die there but there are sometimes when Puck's fucking huge ass body blocks the camera so I can't see the safe zone which is BULLSHIT
Colton Young
I have not seen it once since completing the MSQ, no.
Kayden Lee
Why would it? You've eliminated its source.
Owen Lee
It's 99% two things:
Tanks don't grab aggro, OR everyone isbtoo spread out for the stack marker.
Isaac Peterson
>I want to go slow >but I also want to avoid wipes at all costs Shouldn't it be the players who wanted to go fast complaining about wipes? The only thing they cost is time.
can you image wanting to breed with one of them? how disgusting hahaha
Carson James
Its because DPS clump south instead of having 2 north and 2 south so you can take the AoE markers on each corner. There is so much real estate yet nobody uses it.
Nicholas Gonzalez
Am i the only one who feel like i will never catch up with all games mechanics as a new player, Gold saucer, Crafting, Glamour, Housing, Free company, anima weapon, Mounts, Achievements etc... all of this while having to stay relevant in SHB PVE raiding, in how many years am i gonna catch up i wonder.
James Brooks
You can wipe if he pushes you off the edge and also he lights up some of the side panels, giving you aoe damage
Angel Perez
>locked role slots number 1 red flag for a shitter group
Kevin Price
>Miqo'te are degenerates, prostitutes, and homosexuals >Mystel are based autists >Lalafell are (((Nald'Thal's chosen people))) and everything they do is either to subvert others or make money >Dwarves are friendly traditionalists who just want to chill out with their family >Au ra are disgusting chinks and edgelords >Drahn have cool germanic names and actually integrate into society in a meaningful way The first is too good for us
Austin Gutierrez
>DNC, NIN, DRG meta actually braindead
Daniel Nelson
the pixies and the drowners are chads who don't give a fuck, the dogs and the amaro are sissy bitch boys who literally can't exist without licking someone's boots
Mason Martin
If someone joins then leaves they lock their slot to their class, party leader has to manually change it back.
Leo Campbell
It's a copy pasted reddit post
Dominic Young
There is no dps check, a tank can solo the fight easy peasy, it just takes like 20 minutes
Brody Cruz
I've seen tards drag the big purple aoes into the stack marker. And it feels like every group has at least one retard that can't do the tether knockback.
Tyler Edwards
>Healer spamming their base heals and blowing all their oGCDs after the first 5 seconds >Their MP doesn't dip below 5k >"Wow le GNB sure is squishy" when my CD uptime on pulls is almost 100% Fucking mouthbreathers.
You can do your anima quests completely passively in the background while you do everything else. Just funnel poetics into it when you don't need them for something else and convert useless gear into moonstones and job's done.
Nolan Watson
gee I wonder why they blow all their cds in 5 seconds, maybe because you're squishy and go below 5% every half a second
Brody Lee
If you don’t kill it quick enough, you will run out of squares to stand on. 20 mins and you’re most likely already dead.
Kevin Thomas
Judging by this I'll give BLM a try, thank you.
John Evans
I hope she continues to show up even when we're back on the Source.
Aiden Evans
redpill me on ACT
no seriously how do I install it and how do I make it look at least decent
Isaac Baker
>other DPS tells the tank to pull more >can already see the healer is near his limit at the pace we're going >tank says no >DPS pulls another pack >tank picks them up >dies because the healer throughput literally can't do more >we wipe Wow, yeah that was so much faster, thanks.
Will do Need to check that out Welp. I actually enjoy this bleak/misty environment. Its oppressive and makes the area look more magical/different
Ian Gutierrez
>Have Neutral Sect apply to Celestial Intersection (Why the fuck doesn't it already?) Ignoring the obvious bullshit, this is the only thing you said that should actually happen
Yes i agree that AST needs some fucking buffs as a AST main myself.
Bentley Moore
DPS players refuse to believe healers have been impacted in any way. Expect the worst from them.
Jose Howard
Want to fix AST and make it fun? Have getting all 3 seals give us Neutral Sect and make it last 30 seconds. Put the 20% increase back on Synastry. Make Divination only usable during our new Neutral Sect.
Put horoscope on the goddamn job action bar if it's going to have an expiring conditional
Make Sleeve Draw not have a timer and reduce it's cooldown to 90 seconds so you can actually use the fucking thing outside of double buffing during divination Give CO it's stun back. Reduce Synnastry's cooldown back to 90 seconds. 120 seconds isn't low enough for fuck all, what the fuck. Raise CU's potency back to 150 >Raise AH's time back to 30 >Give Star it's potency back >Give another source of damage reduction now that spread bole no longer exists Extend the range of CU now that WHM get Temperance.
Actually fuck this. Fuck Temperance. My piece of shit bubble that pacifies me heals less than Eos and has a 6y range but a WHM wings hits the entire raid with little effort for constant damage reduction. God damn it Yoshi.
Nicholas Evans
don't, you'll get depression
Julian Hughes
Do you really think ED is fine when you need to throw both charges at someone to replicate what one used to do?
Andrew Rodriguez
Same. MUH BRANCH and Emet are the best characters in XIV now. Losing both would be too much.
Jayden Bell
All GNB players are mindless retards that need to be chemically castrated.
Connor Butler
Why the fuck do they always make quick synth suck on basic items at the start of an expansion. I don't feel like crafting 2500 fucking wood and leather and ores by hand when you don't need a single HQ item to make a single macro for fucking everything
Luke Foster
Because they're insecure and panic the second your HP is below 70%. I had a The Legend btw WHM that allowed me to dip to 20k before tossing a Lilly and Tetra my way, that's how it's supposed to be done, fucking faggot.
Fun but weak. If you enjoy doing as much DPS as BRD does but without any raid buffs, MCH is the job for you.
Caleb Stewart
fun
Owen Thompson
>Put horoscope on the goddamn job action bar if it's going to have an expiring conditional I really think it should just trigger itself when the buff wears out. People can be standing just out of range when you recast it and they won't lose their buff but you don't get a second shot to heal them with it, you're just fucked.
Adrian Brooks
Best it's been for low latency. Awful at high latency.
more like the second your hp is below 7%, which is every second with a gnb tank
Camden James
GNB is squishy though in comparison. Just because you're using cooldowns doesn't mean your cooldowns are as good as WAR or PLD.
Cooper Bell
An entirely new class near the top of the charts.
Jeremiah Hughes
Meh most shit that doesn't involve farming is done in what a few hours? And housing and fcs are optional, you don't need any of it and there's no achievements or anything tied to it. Mounts and whatnot is still being done today and shb is out for like what a week? You have plenty of time don't worry. The only thing you might have trouble with is the rathalos EX trial since that can't be done unsynced so you can't just mindless stomp it and need a couple of people with an actual brain to clear and farm it. All the other trials and whatnot can be done unsynced though and will get easier as better shb gear is introduced so don't worry about it and just enjoy the game.
Daniel King
WHM is the only healer still capable of those saves
Jeremiah Taylor
we're going to get yelled at across dimensions for not masturbating while thinking about her every 5 minutes
Henry Reed
user, I ran that dungeon first time with my friends, I ended up getting dunked on by the side lasers as a healer but my DRK friend survived and depleted the last 60% or so of its HP alone. He kept using cooldowns and lv1 limit break and never came close to dying despite running out of plarforms.
Cooper Lewis
Same brother. My barbarian warrior cat being a cast just wouldn't look right.
I honestly think it's just all the retard bad players coming back for the shiny new expansion, all the people I know who haven't been absent for the last year and a half don't do this sort of stupid shit, but then I run a dungeon as a tank and I see a black mage iin a level 71 fucking dungeon doing a level 50 rotation, and he and his retard friend get offended and log off when I suggest he use fire 2 and enochian.
Christian Carter
When 3 people are dead and a red mage is up what does the rdm spend 45 seconds thinking about before they finally decide to use a raise?
Adam Cook
Reducing divination cooldown would also be fine. 180s is a bit too long, 120s would be good
William Cruz
What's the next best gear to get after Shire? I never Augmented it and it's too late now.
Jason Smith
I've never seen anyone die to pizza slices. What kills people is not enough stacking for party soak because purple markers don't fuck off and stack marker doesn't plant themselves right between boss adds so melee can continue to attack. stack marker literally just needs to come in with a big dick and make purple markers leave and if they don't you berate purples for wiping the party.
Juan Edwards
95% of the player-made Viera I've seen look terrible. >some hideous abomination but at least their glamour looks good >Not hideous but absolutely basic look, looks exactly like the others and for whatever reason butchers their glamour by wearing the starting Viera shoes even if it doesn't fit >ULTRA SLUT, something like 40% or more fall into this currently, wearing the most skimpy clothes possible You would think the playerbase would at least attempt to make something good, turns out they have shit taste.
Evan Richardson
they're thinking about fflogs
Hudson Lopez
>2 people are dead >Its the 2 red mages
I never actually see a red mage alive when other people are dead
Mason Edwards
Selfish DPS that can now justify its presence in a group through its damage, though still a good deal less than SAM and BLM
Christian Morgan
>Fire 2 and enochian You mean Fire 4 right? iirc fire 2 should barely be used once you get the flare umbral heart trait
Oliver Fisher
I swear a lot of them forget they actually have vercure and verraise, while over here I've filled in as a healer with crap MP when the white mage is struggling with the concept of dodging.
Zachary Martin
At least they don't kill you for stumbling into Il Mheg
Jeremiah Harris
>near the top of the charts. lol This is the top 1% for each job with yesterday's uploads (older uploads have some inaccuracies because the tools weren't fixed yet).
Did i say it was fine? I am just saying that the "changes" other than the CI change you suggested aren't going to happen. Do i Think AST needs buffs? Yes they do, quite a few of them actually but a triple potency buff isn't going to happen and you know it.
Either that or increase the buff duration or give us another seal spender that say is an instant cast 20 sec CD damage ability. Not that the damage thing is going to happen.
GNB isn't squishy. Nebula, Rampart and Heart of Stone, then Aurora, Camo and Heart of Stone again if the pull is dragging on.
I main PLD, and GNB is more durable, if we ignore Clemency, which you generally should be able to afford if your healer is competent and your gear isn't trash.
Owen Diaz
around level 64 you start getting better gear then augmented shire. And it's never too late all you need is some peotics and boom you can augment it again.
Chase Rivera
fire 2 would be a step up from casting fire 1 at a 7+ trash pack. I figured expecting tripleflares from him would be asking too much even though it's really the most pleasurable experience possible when playing a blackmage.
Ian Sanchez
Viera are hideous by nature there's nothing to make them look good
Ryan Gomez
I mean cat girls are almost impossible to fuck up but some players manage to do it. And lets not even talk about how easy it is for people to make shit Au Ra. Viera were doomed from the start.
Probably mana, to be honest. RDM is absolutely fucked now if they have to rez more than once a fight. SMN is unironically better at rezzing than RDM because they aren't so mana starved.
Levi Bailey
>his face when his hero, the one in the tales he's infatuated with, the one he wishes he would one day become, calls out his name fuck man, I didn't really care about the original g'raha but G'raha from the first just has so much soul.
Benjamin Jackson
>tank players are all pretty satisfied >DPS players (except monk because they never are and never will be until they just get permanent GL9001) are all pretty satisfied >healer players are either satisfied WHMs or SCH/AST that are screaming for WHM to be deleted and their class to be completely absurd
Joseph Diaz
I think we both have differing definitions of "near the top."
Oliver Diaz
>a triple potency buff isn't going to happen and you know it. It needs to happen, AST would be in a better place if you could happily spam gravity knowing that one ED can top off the tank, not fucking 2 EDs and your CI and a benefic II.
Andrew Edwards
that's what you get for illegal border crossing
Dylan Turner
Wasn't it supposed to get a rework? Why is it exactly the same?
Tyler Cook
You knew what you were risking by fleeing there. Even well-intentioned fae can be absolutely horrific to others.
Isaac Roberts
I'm honestly surprised there is more heterochromatia.
Colton Evans
would fuck
Christopher Green
>all those smug fucks bullying WHM before >now every healer but WHM has been dragged into the cucksher Feels good
Eli Williams
My rabbit is amazing, thank you.
Gavin King
It's MP. MP is a huge issue right now. Lucid basically holds you steady, you don't ever actually get to recover. Each raise drops you down and down until you're forced to attack with unenchanted melee combos to do 300 dps.
Daniel Wright
If you're talking about in your personal party, you can top the charts there with fucking WHM if you're good enough and your party is shit enough.
The point isn't to compare yourself to the mouthbreathers you are grouping with, but with actual competition online.
It did get totally reworked. It just needs a little more damage right now. And DRG should be doing less.
Josiah Allen
SCH is fine now. It just sucks to play. AST is actually awful and feels awful to play. Doubly so if you've played with the other healers.
Luis White
Can you imagine if they had made the Afflatus skills ogcd?
Adrian Howard
there isn't*
Charles Adams
EMET HELP ME OH ZODIARK HE HAS A KATANA HEEEEELP
Nicholas Fisher
I can't believe I bought this piece of shit and then they murdered by job. Fuck YoshiP.
>tfw heterochromia IRL >can't use it as a subtle self-insert because it's too cliché
Cooper Walker
Lots of subhumans play xiv what else is new? I stopped caring after seeing how many unholy abominations walking around. But even then viera are in a leauge of their own. It's unironically a tranny/tumbler magnet.
Xavier Jackson
How do I find an FC with people who aren't mentally ill
every healer that cant keep up with a tank wallpulling should not be allowed to play healer
Nathaniel Robinson
Fun fact, heterochromia is actually more common in real life than blue eyes are.
Kevin Bailey
>Absolute state of FFXIV
Blake Smith
Why doesn't the game have a suggested rotation that players have to perform before they're allowed to queue for level 80 content? Think a combo tutorial in a fighting game.
Angel Fisher
Well, that's not so surprising. There are parts of the world where blue eyes are 1 in a million.
Parker White
>A fucking dog leash appropriate for a cuck in their cuckshed oh I am lafin
Did you tell them to fuck off? Or at least call them out?
David Ortiz
There is absolutely zero excuse not to throw out a few Raises on RDM. You said it yourself, Lucid keeps you just about MP neutral. That's 2 Raises per uninterrupted fighting you can throw out without getting close to having to worry about your resources. Also reminder that Super-Ethers exist. Get some, shitter. They are better than ever.
Dylan Gonzalez
There's NO EXCUSE as a healer, if you and your tank are wearing 390iLvl gear and your tank is spacing his CDs, to not be able to keep up with wall to wall except for the very first pull on the 75 dungeon and ASTs.
Stop giving baddies a pass.
Adrian Howard
>Minifilia porn when?
Brandon Clark
is purple and blue heterochromia acceptable
Angel Allen
Neutral sect should just be a passive, that's the only point where the class feels on par with the other healers.
Connor Evans
the chad fae: dapper and sexy, everyone wants to fuck them, rulers of the land living in beautiful castles, kill mortals for shits and giggles
the tranny poodles: literally just pets who learned how to talk, ugly as sin, try to make up for it by being extremely submissive and clingy, live in barns and under mushrooms
Out of risk of ostracizing myself even further I did not. Also I'm a beta bitch
Caleb Rivera
Its easy on WHM. Not really easy on SCH.
Hunter Martin
Data centre?
Sebastian Hall
You should've.
Luke Parker
They should just give the healing potency back your normal sects like we had in SB that would solve a few problems.
Sebastian Gomez
By not playing with Americans.
Leo Ramirez
>and ASTs You first. SCH is good as fuck.
Nathan Hughes
SCH heals so much that AST doesn't have to do anything, so just play with them.
Ryan Nelson
The 20% was on a 90s cooldown with synastry. Then they decoupled it and put it on Neutral Sect on a 120s cooldown. Then made half the effect useless because attacks like Innocence ultimate goes through shields. Real nice joke you got there Yoshi.
Jose Johnson
wait does it actually play like Savage exdeath/kefka/omega where theres a checkpoint after the big transformation? I didn't even notice because we never wiped
SCH levelling is fucking ass until sacred soil gets its regen.
Matthew Lee
If a tank cant manage big pulls he's shit, same with healers. I can't believe that garbage thread got reddit gold lmao, shows you how many basedboys browse and post there
Austin James
Just play as tank/healer yourself then? You know you won't because bitching about tanks/healers is all you dps-only cucks can do.
Julian Ross
Yall must be finding some good tanks then because I can barely keep people alive on SCH with 2-3 pack pulls.
>The 20% was on a 90s cooldown with synastry That hasn't been a thing for over 2 years. It was a 120 sec CD called Largesse that did it.
Sebastian Brooks
If it doesn't kill you without the shields, why do you care?
Cooper Foster
If a tank is shit should a DPS really be making it worse though?
Jack Howard
>I didn't really care about the original g'raha but G'raha from the first just has so much soul. retarded cutscene skipper
Connor Green
So I should just leave all the healing to the SCH while maybe tossing a Medica 2 in between glares, right?
Colton Morris
>reddit gold lmao The fact that you even know about whatever that is and know it happend speaks volumes about you though?
Gabriel Sanders
I'm not shit out Poetics every day. Besides I have to save up for end game SB stuff.
Owen Evans
>wipe on the second boss in that Ireland dungeon because the WHM was a brainlet and couldn't understand he should stand in front of the adds, not on top of them >joke in party chat i will never be able to tell anyone that i wiped on this boss and i'll take the secret with me to the grave >WHM has a meltdown, screams in party chat then alt F4's the game
Don't even joke about that. The last thing I need is to see SB tier MCH bias against AST in high-end duties.
Because if somebody has a stack or two they'll just outright die and there's nothing we can do about it.
Kevin Harris
oh fuck, I think I'm at the end of HW (just saw Omega anime fight) and cant wait to be done with it, it just dragged on forever, though It has its kino moments, and I enjoyed most of it. I already didn't like the japanese theme in SB, and now you telling me it has the worst story. maybe I should buy that stupid skip potion.
I'm constantly amazed that this game can look so good when zoomed out but so trash when zoomed in
Joshua Fisher
>Playing WHM >Have 2 FC members with me, PUG tank >Single pulls >Boring shit but whatever >Queue dungeon again >Tank starts single pulls >I'm not doing this single pull BS again >Just start pulling everything >Tank cries about it >Keeps tanking though >Everything is fine and the dungeon doesn't take 3 hours
Joshua Collins
If you don't know how to prepare 9-12 aetherflow stacks ahead of time in preparation for a wall to wall pull while both of you are severely underleveled and make proper use of your fairy gauge, you should just delete your jobstone. SCH absolutely demolishes wall to wall pulls.
Then why are you bitching because you should know tanks/healers are basically gutted with tanks having like 2 cooldowns(3 if we count arm's length) and everyone having bad gear because we're just a fucking WEEK into the expansion.
Jeremiah Morris
>healer makes a mistake with targeting and apologizes for it >tank starts doing single pulls
NO NO NO FUCK
Jace Gomez
You're bad lmao.
Brody Phillips
Literally everyone I have asked has told me that Dissapation is a heal loss and not worth using and now you're telling me it is? Even if thats true, why should I have to go through all that setup when WHM can just laugh at big packs?
Julian Cooper
>WHM didn't get Quake >WHM dropped the elements almost entirely
It's just been a long time and it didn't leave a memorable impression on me after having to wait around for 4 FATEs to spawn just to get into the crappy 24 man.
Mason Cox
WHM started going water/ice so we can get GEO.
Chase Collins
But they don't. They all got new/reworked small cooldowns that are up every pull.
Jordan Gonzalez
Stand aside WHM. Time for the real damage to come through.
>prepull adlo & excog >throw out sacred soil when tank stops running >go spam Art of War to help dps along, at this point use Lucid when MP drops to 80% or below and whenever it's on cooldown >when tank starts being in danger again, use Lustrate, Fey Illumination, Fey Union, drop Sacred Soil and Excog again if they come off cooldown, Summon Seraph if at lv80, use Recitation adlo to guarantee a crit, remember to use Fey Illumination too >if things are really, REALLY getting close to going to shit and you no longer have any resources to use, eat the fairy with Dissipation to get three more Aetherflow and save the day You have a million buttons, I bet you're not using some of them effectively.
Dylan Clark
My god this shit happened last night with me as DPS and a friend healing >Grinding dungeons, have done several successfully >Tank goes to pull second group >Friend waits to heal him until he actually gets aggro on everything >Keeps missing like 3 mobs and never establishes aggro >Ends up dying >Refuses to do big pulls for rest of dungeon >Tank is a lvl 71 GNB with a level 60 starter sword
I hate GNB so much
Aiden Price
??? Just do like 1 or 2 roulettes that give poetics and you should already have enough(assuming you already have a full shire set) to augment it though? Or you could just buy another levelboost?
I keep dying like a noob when Innocence sword tethers me during the spinaroo thing. Where the fuck do I bounce it to still be able to avoid the spinner?
no you're a retarded cutscene skipper because there is not G'raha from the first its the same G'raha you cutscene skipping fuck
Andrew Davis
I legit get tanks constantly that will die if I dont heal them every GCD/ogcd. Maybe its a them issue.
Easton Morales
>Having to nerf the level 4 spell to make the brand new one look less pathetic. Which retard at SE is in charge of healer design?
Brayden Perry
>tfw for one patch without any content in it your class isn't the best in role IT'S NOT FAIR BROS NOOOOO SE WILL PAY FOR THIS! PAY! GAS THE WHM PLAYERS! KILL THEM ALL!
Treat it the exact same. The spin isn't actually something you have to care about. If left you just drop it in the normal position and then move diagonally up. If right you drop it in the same position and then run back past it as normal.
Brody Miller
>1/13 of a shattered soul >not female midlander with non tranny normal eyes and hair to be the opposite of Ardbert
You don't understand actual kino
Wyatt Brown
Who is this cute boy?
Gavin Bennett
Think ya might be a little autistic. The context was he cared more about this Graha than crystal tower Graha. Technically they're the same person but still.
You don't call future trunks the same person as trunks.
David Watson
>could make a gimmick mini side quest with AST and let them create custom decks with various cards >nah fuck balancing and work, lets just butcher the card system worst part is that their "fix" is going to be just buffing the CD on divination or raising the DOT damage on combust. NIGGERS, I don't want more damage, I more fucking card buffs, combos and in general support shit. FUCK I am mad
Angel Lewis
>skipping all of the casual, single player content is ruining an mmo no, the casual single player content is ruining mmos
Blake Nguyen
>She doesnt play all the jobs in the role and remain flexible to what works best at the time
Robert Evans
Unless you are a pld and use clemency you only have rampart and job specific cooldown though? Tell me what I am missing here
Jayden Sanders
learn how to heal and tell your tank to learn how to use their CDs and hold aggro, I'm not down for a 30 minutes long dungeon run
Brandon Sullivan
You'll miss the little voice synchronization when he says "This is our future. Our story."
Isaiah Sanders
How long did it take 3.0 AST to get fixed? What about 4.0 MCH? Go fuck yourself.
Nathan Hernandez
Almost done with the MSQ for ShB and I’m stock full of Poetics. What should I be spending them on?
Eli Nguyen
>be basically generbender ardbert >somehow even more kino >drk implied selfcest Pretty good desu
Samuel Rivera
Arms length, shelltron, hallowed ground
Jonathan Clark
It's made all the more impactful that it's you speaking with Ardbert's voice, proving that you're the same person.
Thomas Flores
read Original G'raha is ok, future/first G'raha is SOULful version of Original.
Cameron Garcia
It's not the content, it's that the wall you face while levelling builds character.
demi crystals and sell them to the next junkmonger
Jeremiah Diaz
that happens regardless
Liam Gutierrez
>play game >enjoy story >have a good time >eventually hit 80 >turns out he entire endgame consists of 3 easy dungeons that can be completed in 20 minutes each >don't feel like continueing just hours after reaching the sad excuse of an endgame what do you even do in this game? just quit until the next expansion comes around?
imagine not crafting, gathering and preparing for savage
Isaiah Richardson
Obviously
Wyatt Nguyen
Assuming you spend dissipation stacks on lustrates, that's anywhere between 1800 and 2700 potency in healing depending on if you crit or not. Eos uses a 150 potency heal every 3 seconds, but because fairy potency is roughly equal to 2/3rd of yours, the actual healing potency is closer to 100. Dissipation removes Eos from the field for 30 seconds, meaning 10~ embrace casts are lost for anywhere inbetween 1000 and 1500 potency healing loss. Lustrates win out everytime and you still might boost these healing numbers by throwing out excog instead. And that's without even mentioning the Largesse bonus that comes with it in case you need to commit an act of heresy and actually use mana to heal your tank. Dissipation is also a good tool just as the fight ends so that you get your 3 aetherflow and keep the atherflow ability itself in preparation for a reset. That way you have prepared 6 aetherflow stacks ahead of time and Eos will return to you by the time Recitation Adlo + Excog health padding gets used up and you get to cycle through whispering dawns and Fey Union again. Elementary stuff. Though I agree, WHM just does these things better now.
This or come back when they added enough content to warrant resubbing
Wyatt Lewis
retard
Daniel Gutierrez
If you didn't think Heavensward was amazing you should just uninstall, you are too pleb for this game.
Carter James
Hearing Arbert's voice outta a female doesn't feel the same as hearing it from a male midlander.
Mostly because you can pretend it's your voice.
Jace Jackson
>spic ah it makes sense now
Bentley Cooper
Meh I guess so but even then I only see the pld being able to make big pulls effectively. Or is this the case for the other tanks as well.
Charles Allen
And that's fucking fine.
Leo White
Largesse? The thing that isnt in the game anymore? What about the healing loss from not gaining gauge while the fairy is gone?
Samuel Watson
>Hurr let me pretend to be ignorant about reddit for Yea Forums cred XD Fuck off retards
Andrew Sanders
I already have 80 millions, which is not a lot by some people's standards but it's still more than what I can spend in the game, and so I don't see the reason to continue crafting and gathering
Jeremiah Bailey
>he doesn't know
Owen Anderson
Imagine. For six years, you play the same braindead pet class. And for six years, your class is literally beyond meta- in any situation in the game, a Scholar was recommended. And finally, an expansion comes out and White Mage is finally good at something. So what do you do? Acknowledge that your class is no longer literally the best healer in the game, bar none? No. You go and whine about it. Anywhere that will listen. Twitter, the official forums- hell, even on random-ass Yea Forums threads. You just bitch, and bitch, and bitch, and bitch. Fucking Scholars.
Thomas Sullivan
>Amaurot is one of the most interesting areas in the game >only 3 sidequests there
Daniel Gray
>Play game >Finish game, credits roll >"wtf am i just supposed to play a different game now?"'
Absolute retard.
Not to mention you probably skipped 90% of the ARR, HW and SB content which is sitting there waiting for you to complete it.
Evan Campbell
>SCH has to take a university course on planning, resource management and astrophysics to heal a trash pack >WHM can just Bene, or stun everything to oblivion, or use its literally infinite MP on its countless free heals
Samuel Gonzalez
>watching 500 hours of cutscenes "builds character" lol mmo's are fucked, xiv is to wow what wow was to everquest more casualization, more reclusive single player content in an "mmo" the funniest part is that the single good aspect of xiv (the class design) has been neutered and the player base begs for even more homogenization and simplicity
Tyler Collins
>soul destroying leveling experience These fucking zoomers. I'd like to see them shout in dunes for hours for a leveling party and then de-level because the party you got is shit
To each their own but I prefer it because Ardbert is finally getting a chance to speak himself after being unable to do anything like with the soldiers earlier in the story.
Christopher Adams
Hard to imagine there are people out there who aren't mouthbreathing retards that don't visit reddit right? Kill yourself you projecting waste of space
Hudson Ross
>turns out he entire endgame consists of 3 easy dungeons that can be completed in 20 minutes each Have you even considered the extreme trials? The raid is coming next week and savage is two weeks after that. Also go play a different game. This isn't WoW, you're not supposed to be subbed 24/7 and grind all day.
Cooper Garcia
I don't play SCH at all but you people should know this: Balance shouldn't be about taking turns. Its should not be "This job was best in the last expansion so its only fair to make it bad this time." They should strive to make them all feel workable and efficient.
Jayden Brooks
People aren't bitching about Scholar being worse than WHM, they are bitching about Scholar being fucking boring and awkward to play.
Ryder Rivera
It's ASTs more than SCH since at least they accept that it's still really good just with less tools, but yeah. Fuck both of them.
Sebastian Nguyen
Fucking this. 5.0 SCH is an absolute healing beast but all that power came at the cost of its previous job identity.
I have all 3 healers at 80. All can heal fine. WHM is the king with superior healing and damage right now. It's also smooth as silk. SCH has beastly healing but it's DPS is lacking, but the design on it is overall solid. AST is a trainwreck is low healing and low DPS. Design-wise, you have to press tons of buttons to do the same as the other two, and cards are fun but they eat up a lot of time -- draw, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, don't get the last seal you need, minor arcana, play. All for 1 card. Star is a joke, and Horoscope could be a good thing but ends up just not mattering versus anything SCH can do in 1 button.
So barring any huge, amazing changes the meta will be WHM/WHM or WHM/SCH. The small buff from cards does not bring up raid damage enough to justify half the DPS from AST so far.
As for potencies, they're relatively fine aside from AST. Tanks just don't know when the fuck to use cooldowns so they get hit by trucks, and healers have to adjust to their failures and the DPS's failures as usual.
Elijah Gonzalez
You're a retard, WHM was dogshit during Stormblood and everone wanted buffs for WHM while keeping AST and SCH good. Instead we got buffs for WHM but also trashing AST and SCH for no reason. If we had it your way, everyone would be dog shit, which is clearly inferior to everyone being really good.
Lincoln Nelson
that doesn't change the fact that whm needs to be nerfed because right now it is way more overpowered than sch ever was, there is no way a healer could outdps a tank and no, I don't play sch
William Anderson
>lose a couple of DPS spells >muh job identify fuck off
Tyler Reed
Read the tooltip again. Like basically every similar action the healing buff is healing magic potency now, meaning it does affect your oGCDs. On the other hand you won't gain any Fairy Gauge for those 30 seconds.
Dissipation is pretty much an AoE Heal CD for when Dawn and Blessing are already on CD or not enough on their own. For single target it's kind of a toss up and usually not quite worth it, you have to remember you don't really have any natural weaving windows for any of these oGCDs the extra Aetherflow stacks give you, just spamming Ruin 2 -> Lustrate is ridiculously suboptimal.
Ryder Fisher
FFXIV is unironically one of the most balanced MMOs that has ever existed.
Andrew Clark
>Dissipation removes Eos from the field for 30 seconds, meaning 10~ embrace casts are lost for anywhere inbetween 1000 and 1500 potency healing loss Oh yeah, let's forget Whispering Dawn, Fey blessing, Seraph, Consolation, aetherpact and the fact that you don't gain fairy gauge anymore.
Austin Young
I have seen more than 1 SCH who thinks their fairies are gone and simply not looked in their spellbook.
Lincoln White
To be fair the job's identity actually was just using Miasma 2 and free OGCD heals while Eos does all the work and pretending you're a tactical genius for laughs.
Adam Jenkins
you can't fit 6 heat blasts in hypercharge already
