Gaming PC upgrades with New Ryzen

I'm sitting on a 2500k right now. I can't decide between a 3800x and a 9700k.

Intel on suicide watch, holy shit
Thats decent boy
Even ryzen 3600x is better than 9700k now user, on both sc and mc

I've been using an i5 4690k oc'd to 4.5ghz for years now. Games are finally starting to use up all of its resources, but it will take some more time until I need to actually upgrade

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But my CPU is from 2008

Will I be fine with a 3700X on a b350 board? Probably won't be overclocking

I'm planning on holding onto my 6600k/1070 until sometime next year and probably upgrading around the time ps5/boner2 are out.

is it ok to mix amd cpu with invidia gpu?

No, the rig might explode randomly.

First see if board supports 3000
Ive been doing that for forever, had fx8200 with 70 ti, then ryzen 1300x with gtx970, then 2600x with 1080 ti

Do i go for a Super Mario 2070 or wait for Navi?

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1600 to 3600 because there is no reason to play more for no significant improvement

I got a 2600 so I'll pass on this one.

You should have figured this out by the time you are old enough to post on 4channel

emulators

People already on Ryzen -- do you really need to upgrade?
They're cool products and all, but are you even maxing out your CPU as is? I personally would wait until next-gen consoles release, as they'll make 8 core Ryzen even cheaper.

user. It's due time to set that 2500k to pasture. You have to let go.

>he fell for Zen2 meme

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2070 Super for sure. The fact that AMD shifted their gpu prices down on the release of the super is evidence enough that the 2070 super will outperform the xt

what's a good GPU for an 870k? i don't game too much

How is the 2070 super supposed to compare to the 2080 or 1080ti?

Depends on how big the improvement is. If you can reach 4.5Ghz, then it should be a 30% improvement over Zen 1, which might be worth it.

M-MUH LATENCIA

am I supposed to read that

Well shit, really?
I thought this was finally an opportunity to go full Team Red for once

>w-who cares about s-stutters! avg FPS is all t-that m-matters!

on par or slightly worse

are you implying a ryzen processor stutters more than any incel-inside processor? kek

Probably.
Wanted to upgrade my GPU from GTX960 but any meaningful upgrade would get bottlenecked by my i5 4460.
But if I want to upgrade my CPU I also need a new motherboard and a more powerful GPU will necessitate a stronger power supply.
Also the GPUs I'm looking at wouldn't fit in my old case so at this point I'm just gonna have to build a whole new PC.

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>doesn't say what test gave these numbers
>doesn't say what RAM was used
>doesn't say what infinity fabric clock was
what a reliable source.

honestly what do you think the benefit of such an upgrade is?

Honest to god I fell like my 2600x is bottlenecking my 1080 ti
Wait for benchmarks because 5700xt costs same as 2070 super or so

la latencia amerigana

why the do u even want a upgrade your cpu when you already have a good one? its only logical to upgrade if you have like a i5-4xxx cpu or something worse
t.corelet 7600k at 4.5ghz

Of course. Especially Zen2 retarded chiplet design with separated northbridge. That's why they have so much cache now - it's a crutch to help a bit with awful IF latency.

i have a 2600x/1070ti combo i swear gta 5 cant do constant 60fps/1440p

Now post in a non-subhuman language

I have a really shitty Xeon CPU, and I only need good stable 60 fps for vidya, so should I wait for ryzen 3000 or buy right now 2600x? GPU is 290x, will upgrade ram and will need a new mobo too just wondering about CPU.

That's fucking absurd, I do so with a 1070. You probably have some retarded setting enabled.

NEVER OBSOLETE

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I like to support AMD to foster competition, helps keep GPU prices down.

I want to upgrade but them ddr4 prices man, goddamn

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so you have all advanced settings off? i think its only outdoors i get 40fps

Prices went down long time ago tho?

They're the lowest they've been in 2 years. What are you talking about?

Dude what? Ram is all time low now again. Few months ago there was 100% increase. You can get corsair 3000 or 3200 16gb kit for $80 or so

I don't have it installed right now, but I played on a mix of high/ultra. As I recall there was one setting in particular that tanked my performance, can't remember what it was, sorry.

Really? Shit

My i5 2550k is still fine

>On 1600+970
>Can only upgrade one or the other right now and can't decide.

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am i in bizarro world? since when are "we" posting shitskin language videos?

I'd like to go Ryzen 3700X, but goddam it's pricey. The equivalent back then would be the 2500k I still have, and it only cost me like 170$ in 2011. Why the fuck did PC parts double in price? The mid-high range GPU also doubled, RAM also doubled (though it's thankfully tanking right now). Only SSDs are cheaper. And fucking x570 motherboards are pricey as fuck, and I need 8 SATA + flashable BIOS without CPU, and no X470 or B450 fit that criteria. And if there was, iot would cost the same as an X570 anyway.

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Yes, going to wait till about September/October, then build a PC with Ryzen 3600 and probably a RTX 2060 Super. Depends on price, benchmarks,etc.

My games have been bottle necking on CPU for over a year. If you aren't bottle necking in a 6 year old cup, the rest of your rig must be genuine trash.

i updated my phenom x4 yesterday now im runnning a i5 3470. i paid 30 euro for the motherboard 8gigs of ram and the CPU did i do good?

>bought a 9700k two weeks before E3

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>Will I be fine with a 3700X on a b350 board? Probably won't be overclocking

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>buying 4c/4t in 2019
kinda retarded.

I'm upgrading from an i5-3570K

It struggles on modern multi-threaded games like AssCreed and Monster Hunter
Also struggles with Warhammer 2 but I don't think it's a multicore issue, it probably needs one beefy core?

i didnt gaymen for 2 years. tell me some comfy games, even if its pixelshit im open to anything. good ports, adventure, rpg, action. you name it

Good value but it's not gonna hold up for long if you're gaming.

You want to upgrade your cpu to the older gen when the newest gen are being released before the end of the year?

Nah. 2600 does well job. Ill wait over this generation and maybe next one.

If you asked about it on here before buying someone probably told you to wait.

had shitload of stuters on I5 2500k though.

When are the first reviews coming up?

my mainboard died and i had to buy something. that was the only thing available in my town. its already an update for my phenom x4 so im fine at the moment. my idea was to upgrade to 3xxx ryzen when they come out.

This. Always buy new flashy toys, goy.

Embargo is up at 9AM EST.

3-4h

Never buy older CPUs, it's a dumb idea
Their prices don't even really drop

brainlet here, would this work with a tomahawk?

The tomahawk is listed on there. Just check CPUs that have a green check mark next to it.

Gonna go from a 4690k to a 3700x and 2070 super or an XT from a 290 here soon

Yeah, my 1600 is blatantly not in anyway bottle necking my 1080ti. It's not like people with worse graphics cards than me are getting better frame rates in some games because their CPU doesn't blow ass.

I'm still using an intel I5-4430, don't need anything better for 1080p gaming.

3700x or 3800x?
i5 4460 gave me hell, i can get x470 aorus for cheap

>Upgrading

I have an i5 4690k running at 4.4Ghz and I couldn't give less of a fuck for newwer games.

FYI you can already buy them on newegg.
newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568?Item=N82E16819113568
newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/p/N82E16819113567?cm_sp=SearchSuccess-_-INFOCARD-_-3800x-_-19-113-567-_-2&Description=3800x
newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?Description=3900x&cm_re=3900x-_-19-113-103-_-Product

Shouldn't you post this on steam sales threads instead?

is Newegg deprecated

I haven't seen a single Australian store list them. What's the deal? Haven't decided how high to raise the price?

Just noting for the mITX builds, while the mobo can handle higher power CPUs, you probably also need to consider the cooler power if you go for SFF.

Not dropping under 60fps is not a meme.

How do I tell if my MoBo is compatible with the new generation of Ryzens? I remember there being a lot of rumblings about how some MoBo companies were more confident about the new CPUs working on old boards than others.

pccg is going to have navi and zen2 listed 3 hours from now.
also probably going to price gouge us too.

australia is made up

AM4 boards are compatible, whether or not their VRMs can handle them is another question. Check this spreadsheet.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

>i5 3570k that wont clock over 3.7ghz anymore
>using more than 4gb of ram causes me to not even post
im so fucking ready to upgrade you have no idea

I-I wanna upgrade too guys...

The continued belief that i5 2500k era CPUs are still good enough is held by people who believe the average framerate is the only stat that matters.

My 7600k's still doing fine, I'd consider the 2600 if I needed it since it's dirt cheap, but I'm fine. I'm a baguette so 3000s are considerably more expensive than in the US, I'll pass.

Yea Forums, time for a spoonfeed. I have $630 in my amazon account and want to upgrade my rig. the only 3 items i'll be purchasing are cpu, motherboard and memory.

for $630, what is the absolute BEST combo I can get. I mostly play games, but would also like some productivity. I also plan on emulating ps3 and wii-u, if that matters.

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>4670k and 970 3.5 meme card
>still nothing worth upgrading for this year

I might leapfrog to 4k next year for elden ring. Anyone need scaling on a 32 inch monitor or is everything a good size without it?

>Ryzen 3900X costs $500
>an i9 9700k costs $400, but has an average of ~15% FPS more in every game
HOW CAN ONE COMPANY BE THIS INCOMPETENT? FUCK AMD AND FUCK TAIWAN!

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I can feel the limits of my R1600 on single threaded games and too bad some of my favorite games right now only use one thread, so heck yeah I'm upgrading. My mobo is confirmed the handle up to a 3900X but I'll go with 3800x. Any less cores would be shameful when even consoles are going to get 8 Ryzen cores soon.

Will upgrade to a 3900x from an i5 6600K
Can't wait to play some proper 1440p

Why would I upgrade if I have an i7 4790k?

>yeah, you totally need a 300 dollars more expensive mobo that generates so much heat it needs additional, potentially noisy fans as an extra weak point

Depends. I kind of want to but will see how it fares with emulation. AMD's OpenGL support has not been great.

>Wanted to upgrade to an i5 8400
>Went for an R5 2600 instead because it was less than 60% of the cost despite having similar performance
>Wanted to upgrade to a GTX 1070
>Went for a Vega 56 because it was less than 70% of the cost despite being more powerful
Guess I'm team red now.

>cpu
>opengl
Based user, also opengl is no issue on linux.

Wait for benchmarks.

>AMD gpu
>not getting a 2070 super

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CPUs have nothing to do with OpenGL support, all you need is an Nvidia GPU with your Ryzen. That's what I'm doing and I have no issue with any OGL emulators.

what are you even needing this hardware for?

>still with 2500k
>Have no incentive to upgrade

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Skyrim mods and dorf fort.

Nothing.
Only brainlets are upgrading now instead of waiting for next year since that's when new consoles are out and a new standard for visuals and physics is set.
The CPU they buy now might as well be completely useless and outdated next gen because of trash tier optimizations.

How are AMD's drivers now a days?
I remember from my r9290 days I sometimes had to wait almost a week to get to play new games with normal performance.

>Buy a 2500k in 2011
>2016 comes around, thinking of getting a 6600k but decide to wait till 10nm
>2019, 2500k still going strong
I'm still a 1080p60 babby, but is the 2500k the greatest CPU of all time, bros?

>The CPU they buy now might as well be completely useless and outdated next gen because of trash tier optimizations.
It's the same Zen 2 based CPU possibly without SMT. Buying a CPU now will be fine

no, the 4790k is

>nvidia GPU
i'm a brainlet on this subject, but doesn't rpcs use vulkan over openGL? and if yes, how does performance differ between an AMD and nvidia card.

>r9 290
my nigga
Still rocking a 290 Sapphire here. Manages 60-144 fps easy on high/ultra settings.
Drivers have been really great the last few years.

That was the entire reason the spreadsheet was made you fucking idiot, to show people you don't need X570.

>he has a 2000x ryzen and will waste hundreds on a 10/20% increase
Cringe. CPU's are meant to be upgraded every 5 years

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3570k user here, I'm upgrading to a 3900x within a month. it's been a solid 7 years with this cpu, but I can feel it's age and limitations now.

>need a 300 dollars more expensive mobo
just get a MSI Tomahawk, it's $100.

Found the zoomer.

I have no complaints when it comes to drivers.

cope

The i5 ###K CPUs are juts pretty good. Still using an i54670K here and see no reason to upgrade yet.

>Hundreds
Also you think im gonna keep 2600x lmao?

You're gonna lose about a 100 selling that shit now

Based and waitpilled. Like it or not, most games today are made with console as the primary platform. The best time to upgrade is a new console generation, because that's when you'll need it the most due to the visual upgrade games will receive because of the new consoles.

>have 5 year old cpu
>play games in 4k
>i would gain 5fps if i buy a $500 cpu
why haven't you become a 4kchad yet, Yea Forums?

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>CPU upgrade
>Affecting graphics
Telling people not to buy the same hardware as whats in the consoles and citing consoles as the reason for not doing so is retarded.

Meh, I prefer framerates over resolution.

>implying graphics are the only thing that change with generations

240hz > 4K

>2019, 2500k still going strong
fuck off retard
t. 2500k 4.6

Yes RPCS3 prefer Vulkan, but the GPU barely matter in that emu, you'll reach max performances no matter which GPU brands. Nvidia isn't bad at Vulkan at all even if AMD is better at it, but OGL emus often have issues on AMD GPUs

>3700x is probably gonna be like $450 in my country
well shit

I fell for the AMD/ATI meme in 2003.

Never again. I'll pay my intel/nvidia premium happily.

>pay more for less
you also have an iphone, right?

>amd
good luck emulating anything

I already sold ir for £160 , 2 weeks ago, new 3600x will cost me £230. So I dont really care, it will good upgrade to lessen bottleneck with gpu

I have 1600 and I think I will stay on it for at least two more years.

>Went for Intel with the i5
>Like 2-3 fucking exploits found and mitigations slow down my CPU each time
Nah fuck Intel.

You got Athlon 64? And weren't happy with it???
What?!

Are you saying that my overclocked 3930k is still good enough for 1080p gaming? How can that be? This thing is close to 10 years old now.

windows xp 64bit was a huge piece of shit

Will go from 2700x to 3900x,
according to this chart my x470 mobo can handle it with OC.

>making yourself get used to framerates this high so you cry and complain about optimization in the steam forums because of how unplayable the game is with 200fps

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Not after the Intel security patches.

Overclock ffs. Get a good fan cooler Noctua if you have the space then crank that bad boy up to around 4.4-4.8 GHz, just keep your voltage under 1.52, there are tons of guides for the 2500k alone

last question if you still around, does rpcs3 prefer a higher core count? or single core speed? I don't have the funds right now for the 3700x, but would wait a month or two if it means getting better performance from the 8/16.

>The best time to upgrade is a new console generation, because that's when you'll need it the most due to the visual upgrade
>because that's when you'll need it the most due to the visual upgrade
>visual upgrade
>In a thread talking about upgrading CPU's
>Specifically to Zen 2, the CPU architecture used in the next gen consoles
Seriously anyone telling people to wait till after the consoles come out because "muh optimisations" is a literal retard.

And this is AMDs fault how?

>2600x to 3700x
same
It's probably fine to keep my b450 Tomahawk mobo, right? It's compatible and I don't see a reason to upgrade there

Do ryzen CPUs still need $300 memory to function

That's on microshit though, same now with the win 10, those retards finally fixed the schedule issue for ryzen cpus.

Never did, get DR memory and even with slow 2666MHz you will get fast performance. Because it's not memory speed that Ryzen needs but bandwidth.

>$300 memory
3200 cost like $110 for a 2x8 16gb kit.

Newer CPUs are faster per Hz but unless you don’t have a GPU bottleneck it’s not gonna matter much. Over lock that old CPU, and if your frame rate isn’t steady above 60 you have a GPU bottleneck.

I have a 1600. I needed to OC the fuck out of it to get acceptable single threaded perfs and it reach over 140W easily on full load. And yet it still couldn't reach 3.8Ghz all cores without going overboard in the voltage
Some of my fav games right now like Stalker still can't even reach 60fps constantly despite being 10y/o literally, this isn't acceptable.
While I like this CPU anyway an upgrade would not only net me like 25% more ST perfs but at much lower heat also (since Precision Boost isn't shit now apparently and correctly detect single threaded tasks for auto boosting, unlike the 1st gen Ryzen's Boost that really couldn't be trusted.
Getting 8 cores would be a good idea too. I'm also still using the stock cooler (which is doing an amazing job dissipating so much heat by the way) so it's time to change this.

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>i5-4570/rx 560
>struggle with reaching 60fps in far cry 5 on medium setting
where's the bottleneck

i3 3220 to R5 3600

Use MSI Afterburner and check for yourself.

It prefer both. I'm actually getting pretty good results with my R1600X on RPCS3, it use all 12 threads nicely, but the first/second gen Ryzen CPUs lack a bit of sheer power for each of these threads. Ryzen 3000 is fixing this.

3700x needs 3600 CL16 which is around $180

I'm still using an i5 4690 so it's tempting, but since I play in 1440p, I'm probably more often bottlenecked by my 1070.

I want to, but there are no fucking listings for it anywhere in my country, what the fuck is happening?

What do you mean by "need"
tfw planning to get an 3800X but I have 2400Mhz ram

Good lad. Im still usin 2500k and not a single game has bottlenecked unlike fancy 16 core memes.

I assume you still play in 1080p?

solid. i'll just save up and grab the 3700x then. was considering the $229 deal on the i5/6900k, but i'll just wait.

thanks user.

ryzen CPUs' infinity fabric shit is directly dependent on ram speed, they run like shit with slow memory

i just bought some 16gb bdie ram 3200mhz for around $100 they were a lot more expensive before and i plan on buying some more for my second build

>I only play 10 year old games on the 10 year old CPU, I really don't get what the fuss is about.

>AMD APU still shit
I don't want to pay for overpriced GPUs anymore. Fuck miners and their obsessions with crypto shit

How's it looking with Cemu? Literally the only reason I'll upgrade

Yes, waiting for the 3700x to become available

I also saw it barely makes a difference from 2666Mhz, which is where I OC'd mine and my current ryzen runs great.

>I don't want to pay for overpriced GPUs anymore.
aren't 1660 good cards with a reasonable price?

probably, have a 4790 which is more then enough right now but with some games I've been getting nasty blue screens if it tries to utilize the 2nd core too much.

Currently they do, but AMD can and has decoupled infinity fabric and memory speed on their GPU tech.
If they can do it there theres no reason for them to not try it on Zen 2 where its more important.

APU is always shit and no miners use gpus to mine anymore

How do I know which part of my PC is bottlenecking

Do you need display port for 144hz or hdmi can do that too?

If you have to ask it's probably a PBKAC.

with a magnet and a flashlight

use a hammer

Get msi afterburner or another tool that measures load of parts
Play game, tab out, see which part maxes out usuage, usually cpu or gpu

HDMI 2.0 can support 144Hz over 1080p
but i'd suggest to go displayport anyway.

Overclocked i5 4690k and it's certainly starting to show its age when trying for 144hz
Can't even hold 60 in games like BFV

>wow 80 ms that seems like it's a fuckl-
>ns
owell

he's right, my r3 1200 doesn't bottleneck 1080ti at 4k

it's actually the today's shit tier programming you're feeling, not the CPU's limitations.

No, i'll wait for the 7nm refresh.

Get gassed brandmixer

Where are you getting intel GPUs? Or nvidia CPUs?

R7 3700x or 3800x? Are the differences enough to justify the price?

Yep, Finally going to upgrade my 2500k. It's served me well for the games I play but I need an upgrade for VR.

That's because processing for anything passed 1080p get's pushed more onto the gpu and is lighter on cpu. At this point, 1440p is easy enough to achieve so cpu power is becoming less important for gaming.

no

Thanks. Do I need to enable some special settings or I can grab any freesync monitor and connect to pc for 144hz?

I have a 2600X but haven't found a reason to upgrade just yet. Stuff like Metro Exodus with ray tracing runs fine, as does Cemu and RPCS3.
It's all AM4 socket right? So atleast I know I can upgrade when I need to which is nice.

>spoonfeed me pls ;_;

Intel and nvidia have an intimate relationship

Yes. Gonna go all out with the x570 combo. Not now though as there's no point. Still waiting on the new RTX supers

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>cheaping out on the heart of your computer
you deserved it

I upgraded from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a Ryzen 7 2700 yesterday for my Node 202 LAN build. Fucking dog sick of dragging my giant heavy tower around all the time. I don't really care to upgrade to Ryzen 7 3700 until at least a year has passed and AMD has worked out any flaws in their fabrication process.

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Whatever i5 in my x230 here.

Not that user but the only thing I had to change was the monitor settings.
>Right click desktop
>Resolution
>Advanced settings on new monitor
>Monitor tab
>Change refresh rate to 144hz

Radeon Settings turned on freesync by itself after I connected the freesync monitor but best to make sure it is in the display tab.

2600x is very good though, why upgrading?

What's her name?

>lessen bottleneck with gpu
There are no modern games that a 2600 bottlenecks. Most modern games rely on the GPU power at this point. My 2600x barely has over 30% util most of the time

>I have a 2600x
you shouldn't even be here. this is for people on old as fuck cpus and entry level peasants.

I forgot. Last time I found out by reverse imaging it and stumbled upon her deviants art page

>people ITT upgrading their cpu every 1-2 years
are you people retarded?

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>bought RX 590 last November to replace R9 280
>got DMC5 and REmake2 for free
>now stuck with outdated card
I can still sell the 280 or 590 for a new nvidia or amd gpu. But should I?

but what about new Radeons? Weren't they supposed to come out today too? Radeon RX 5700 should be competitive with flagship Nvidia cards, which is much more important gayming-wise than new Ryzens

Vega 56 is a God tier when it come to performance/price ratio (at 250$), basically unbeatable.
Probably because it was a huge commercial failure at the release so now it is sold at cheap price

Cheers, gonna get a new freesync monitor along with rest of my build then.

Which is a fine reason to use new CPUs. A CPU sitting at 30% usage is going to generate less heat and require less cooling than one sitting at 80% usage. This allows you to use a smaller case with less noisy fans without any impact on performance or component lifetime, and it saves you energy money on top.

who are you referring to?

first gen ryzen ownder

>Ryzen 2
>still barely keeps up with 7th gen i7s at games from fucking 3 years ago
Yeah, no, I'll be sticking with my 7700k.

Console-tard looking to join mustard race. If I get an AMD CPU and chipset, would performance still be alright with an nvidia gpu? From my understanding NVIDIA and Intel compliment each other. Would the mismatch here be okay?

...

Finally. Looking to leave Intel and not look back/ AMD here I come.

Performance would be better because AMD GPUs are trash.

If people can afford it then who cares

Nowadays, there shouldn't be any issues from what I've read. Years ago there were some issues.

don't listen to memers, any cpu/gpu setup works great these days. if you're only interested in gaming, go with a 2600x + 2080.

Wait so you're saying that a 2600x is still good enough?
I got it three month ago when I needed to get a new motherboard (from Intel to AMD motherboard since the old one died), still get good results with.
Except in assassins creed odyssey, I have 16gb ram, msi Vega 56 but I can't get to run odyssey at more than 50fps even at low preset.
how is this possible?

>b450
>3600x
>16gb 3200 c14
*cracks knuckles* yep, it's gaming time

It could explode randomly

Your understanding is flawed.

Sweet. Appreciate it boys!

B-but OP said he was thinking of switching from a 2600 to a 3700. I just wanted to chime in and say that I haven't found a reason to do so yet.

The Vega series isn't trash

Odyssey is optimized like stage 4 cancer.

Where are the reviews?

>how is this possible?
Well you have a Vega 56 is why. That's a horrifically bad GPU. My 1050 Ti could handle Odyssey.

ubisoft ports are trash, even my 2700x + rtx2080 can't keep up with odyssey

>let me spend another $200+ for a 10% performance gain every year
this is a board for gaming. a cpu from 2010 is still enough for most games, so why the fuck would someone upgrade their cpu like it's a damn phone?

it doesn't matter if they can afford it, it's just a dumb thing to do.

What are you going to play?

>Want to go Nvidia next time
>Have a freesync monitor
>Find out my monitor still works on Nvidia anyway
Glad.

Because lots of people use their PCs for other stuff as well. Even if you're just gaming if you're on youtube or streaming a better CPU helps with that

Try this github.com/Kaldaien/SpecialK/releases/tag/sk_odyssey
The CPU usage in Odyssey is ridiculous, this dropped it by 30% at least.

Nice cope, poorfag

I've saw benchmark with people who used a 2600x and Vega 56 but they still get 60fps, so I thought it may be a problem from my pc.
It work great in other games (130 fps at 2k in warframe, 90fps ultra 2k in dmc 5...etc) except odyssey, I've spent hours to optimize odyssey but I couldn't get 60fps even with everything at low (I was only able to gain between 5-15 fps)

What if I'm still using a core 2 duo cpu?

many games I've been stuck playing at a frighteningly stuttering 40-60fps on my 2500k

>If I get an AMD CPU
That's just dumb though. Intel still beats AMD at most games for the same price.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

I thought that their worst games when it come to optimization were watchdog and the division 2 before I tried to play odyssey but odyssey beat them

Oh thanks! I'll try it right now.
I need to say that I have a cracked version of odyssey, I dunno if the cracked version received many updates or not

Nah, it's also the cpu limitations. If I try and do anything while doing something else, shit starts chugging because 4 cores is spiking the cpu usage and things are trying to fight for processing power.

So everyone here can confirm that upgrading from a 2600x to 3600 or 3700 is a stupid idea right?
Also have a Vega 56 and 16gb ram?

Ryzen CPUs usually come with their own cooling fan right?

yes

Let me know when the reviews are up then I'll consider it.

Yes and they're bloody excellent too.

in 50 mins

you dont need a new cpu every year retard

For someone who probably won't be pushing max settings on any video game is there any reason for me to consider the Ryzen 7 over a Ryzen 5 in the current generation?

what exactly are you expecting? if for productivity, the 3700 would be worth upgrading for. but if gaming, you're better off saving your money.

Nope i am going to buy the 2200g (budget reasons) any tips ?

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>paying +$100 for a shitty cooler
>still has worse performance

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Its actually decent upgrade

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nope
The 7 series give no gayman benefits over the 5 series.
see

>2600x to 3600
if you think 10fps is worth it then go for it

Okay poorfag

Btainlet here.
Is my board good for Ryzen 3000?
It's A320 but apparently it's compatible?

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Hahahaha, £150 difference and intel is barely better

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Alright. Finally joining glorious mustards. I want to futureproof this thing and have it ready for cyberpunk 2077.

My friend is lending me his 1080 ti so that's huge savings right there. Pair that with 3600/x and a good b450. Solid build? I'm new when it comes to all this.

What does user mean by productivity stuff?

Just maybe give us full model? Each manufacturer released compactibility list

2600x to a 3700x wouldnt be that dumb.

I mostly care about gaming so the new series of cpu is pointless to me right now?

3600 is much better value

I mean, it's a solid build but nobody knows the Cyberpunk specs. I've been following it closely and all you have to go on is the fact that the gameplay demo was running at 1080p 30 fps on a 1080 Ti. So they have optimising to do.

This site is pure crap you retard

CPU-heavy related tasks such as Video/audio editing and rendering. 3D modeling. Server workstation etc.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO

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Is the new Ryzen 5 better than a Ryzen 7 from last gen?

Video editing or shit like that I guess

the upgrade you receive wouldn't be enough to justify the price you'll be paying. the 2600x is still a damn fine gaming cpu.

I'm fine with my 2500K

I've been on my i5 4690k as a sidegrade due to my PC in 2015 just straight up dying after I came back from a holiday, maybe I'll consider upgrading to this CPU later in the year. But doing that means a new mobo and RAM.

Price matters retard

This site is pure crap you retard

Gonna wait and see how x470 and a used 3 series Zen gets along when my 2700x can't hit 100fps minimum next year or so

the 3900x is more expensive than the 9700k

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there is no such thing as "compliment" it's a fucking processor not a fine wine.

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Compare it to 3700k brainlet

amd bros how do we cope that we still don't beat intel do we brag about multi cinebench scores or post faked latin benchmarks?

same, i just upgraded to xeon e3 1230 v2 i grabbed from my workplace and now my room is a sauna, i should get an i5 my room airflow sucks

costs 350€ here, so 40€ less than 9700k and also much worse

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>things are trying to fight for processing power
that's because most programmers are taught to be as lazy as possible and just "throw more CPU cycles at it"
if you had any idea how much performance you can get out of ANY processor if you just try to optimize a little.
for instance, I once had the "pleasure" to work in an IT department who's head programmer's idea of "performance" was letting a program run for an hour to "automate" a process. Operations had to stop while this process was running so the company had a combined 20 paid hours a day doing nothing. I spent two days writing something new and that same process (+ various security checks) took an average of 8 seconds. SECONDS! Management gave everyone in IT a raise.

so yeah, not your CPU, bro, shit programming. The end result is the same tho, you have to ugprade, sadly.

AMD WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN YOU PROMISED

The 3800x is cheaper and faster for gaymes

Not if you want higher fps and resolution

Is it a good time to upgrade?

3600 + gtx 1660 Ti, sounds good?

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3800x is more expensive in eu and its also worse

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Mine as on 4.3 with 2000 memory, it wasn't a stutter fest, but lows way way lover than with R2600.

>similar lows
>B-BUT THE NUMBER GO THE BIGGEST ON INCEL THAT MEAN BETTER I LOVE FPS FLUCTUATIONS

>1500ti to a 1660ti
That's not an upgrade, that's a sidegrade.

I was gonna buy a 2700x
should I save a little more and buy a 3700x?

Or a used 3200 cl16 16/32gb kit + used Zen for peanuts

Many people will offload their rigs this month for cheaper faster shit

>98fps vs 91
>housefire electricity bill
>threadlet
>cost higher
>on a dead platform
>much worse

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I want to do GPU-passthrough and PS3 emulation
my 4440s isn't enough for that

meant for

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>worse
Seething

SEETHING

Cope. It's cheaper to buy AND use, for the same performances and 8 fucking extra threads. You can't defend it poojet

go for 3600x
and consider hunting for a used RTX 2060 from the incremental upgradefags that are likely to drop them on ebay soon.

>have to compromise security or destroy performance with patches
>have to constantly buy new motherboards to upgrade
>Incels defend this because at least it plays Wii U games better

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>98fps vs 91
thats the minimum
the average difference is ~20fps.

cope more amdcuck

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retard

>that guy who makes 40k a year but spends thousands on cutting edge pc parts and then plays f2p games

SEETHING

That 1050 was a mistake but you should still wait for Nvidia to get it's shit together

>sidegrade

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>have to constantly buy new motherboards to upgrade
>constantly
upgrading every 5 years is enough, sorry to hear you cant afford a $100 mobo

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Only the minimum matter in videogames retard, but I guess you never play them.

>LITERAL JIDF

>it's okay that they fuck us over because I wasn't going to use that feature anyway
I bet you'd defend RAID keys too lol

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So? Better than some faggot buying over priced prebuilt shit

On 720p at low settings
In regular gaming the difference would be even lower and actually the CPU with the higher threads would smooth out low/stutters much better.
COPE

I think i got a dodgy motherboard, My RAM is on a weird setting, It should be 3000mhz, Even if i try configure the settings in my bios it fails to boot and rests itself. And i tried to upgrade to a R7 2700x too but it kept failing to boot

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if amd cpus were so good you wouldnt have to upgrade every year

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if intel cpus were so good they wouldn't need to change the socket every year

>price gouge us too.
motherfuckers, come on umart undercut those NSW ponces give me MSRP on a gpu for the first time in 5 years you fucks

>i7 beat by an entry level ryzen 5

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stick the ram in the other slots then load the 3000mhz profile

I saw someone on youtube that bought a 144hz monitor but he never changed it so he had been playing at 60hz for years

Don't do this, it creates mustard race

>buy intel
>its so good i can keep it for 5 years so i couldnt care less about what sockel they use
>buy amd
>its outdated shit one year later and i need to pay another $300 every year
Intel is literally saving me money

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I'm considering upgrading to a 2060 but that's about it. A lad in a prev thread said I need to OC my memory, but I don't actually know how.

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>poojeet has no arguments
Oh no no

businessinsider.com/intel-insiders-praise-amd-gains-leaked-document-2019-6/

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The reason you never had to upgrade is because no progress was being made on the CPU front. Now AMD is actually making faster CPU's so it's finally worth upgrading again.
But hey, you're a retarded animeposter so what do you know.

>AMD constantly progress and now surpass Incels' snail pace
>It's a bad thing

poojet refers to amd since they are based in india and are for poorfags right?

you might have a point if I hadn't just upgraded from Intel after that long and they're still trying to sell me quad-core chips

I'm an animeposter (like every non-cancer Yea Forums poster) and I do know.

>constantly progress
>still worse than Intel

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As far as i know they are in the correct slots, I checked the manual and build guides, But i will try that

>Still
Get with the times grandpa

dumb corelet

the windows scheduler spent more time assigning cores than using them until recently
high core count CPUs especially those using chiplets were all being gimped, why do you think all the old intel servers run linux?
the issue only became noticeable to consumers when AMD started making consumer cpus with server tier core counts previously exclusive to intel Xeon stuff

>Now AMD is actually making faster CPU's
>still worse than two year old Intel CPUs

That very nearly didn't happen, if they didn't get caught using it in laptops Nvidia would have just lied about it being any good and pushed Gsync harder.

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see YIKES, a 2 year old CPU shits on the most expensive new AMD cpu

Have fun with your 4 core security hole.

>m-m-muh multicore
>still worse game performance than 4 core intels
>MUHH CINEBENCH

>bump up the resolution so you can see the video card do work!!!
You're actually coping right now, Abdul.

>green numbers indicate lesser than baseline
>red numbers more than
why the fuck

RX 570 and RX 580 were the same too. I can only hope Navi flops just as badly and I get to profit off of it.

This is retarded. Games are designed, developed, written, tested, and released on current gen processers. Developers don't have access to processors that don't "exist" yet. This isn't 1999. Games are far more dependent on GPU performance and capability than they are with CPU performance and capability.

That doesn't mean that CPU isn't important at all, but not nearly as important as the GPU. A lot of people are having performance issues and instantly think their CPU is now underpowered with it's really more of a matter of poor computer management.
>having 50 programs running in the background while playing.
>never running a defrag on their HHD
>etc

Unless you have a 10 year old CPU your best bet is to save your money and upgrade your GPU (if your motherboard is upgradable).

Who's outside right now bros? Excited??

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Where are the reviews ffs?
All we have is some fucking spanish review of 3600.

but *is* your gaming cpu-limited Yea Forums? or do you actually have a job that requires software that takes too much time to compute something?

don't spend money on a shiny new processor when at best it's gonna give you 1.5 frames for the same money you could use to upgrade the GPU to 50% more frames.

here

I'm on i5 4670k

You've been able to buy them online for like 6 hours now.

No, wait for reviews fuck preordering.

My new rog strix b450-f is arriving tomorrow, waiting for cpu to drop now, gonna switch to 3600x

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It is from Chiphell, a chink site.
Chinks have weird superstitions.

Can the new Ryzen 5 still do those tasks well compared to a Ryzen 7 years ago?

Will wait for 3950x, see how it performs, if it's the same as 3900 or 3800 then I'd buy the other two. Hopefully prices will get a bit lower by that time.

Good knowing that I didn't mess it up by buying Taichi

And our watch has ended.

It was an honor waiting for benchmarks with you all. See you on the other side.

Yeah no I'll wait for actual reviews, not this janky shite with weird graphs.

There's another hour.

You do realise it'll do that with chips as low as the 3600 right? AMD's CPU's are being very consistant there while all the intel hex cores drop off once SMT is disabled and the 7700k falls behind as well.
Best price to performance will be getting a 3600 and overclocking.
I'tll keep up with games for as long as the next gen consoles do if the consoles don't do SMT for the same reason the 7700k keeps up with the 9600k.

anandtech.com/show/14605/the-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-amd-done-did-it

AMD BROS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN

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>can't even beat 8700k
LMAO

3600 or 3600x?

>650 fps is losing

I thought to wait for ddr5, but i feel like i will be fucked by jewpricing.
I have i7 4790, should i upgrade my rig?

>selling a 4core cpu with malware gateway pre-installed for $360.

Are intel consumers literally retarded?

No, 4790 is fine

IT WAS OUR POO TIME BUT WE LOST AAAAAAAAAAAA

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>Being between a 9700k and 8700k at $30 cheaper is losing
Keep reaching boi

I upgraded from an old i7 4770k to my new i5 8600k and it's a world of difference

can't stop me, jew

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SEETHING

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I bought a 1080GTX when I found a great deal almost a year and a half ago but shit happened and I never upgraded the rest of my PC

What CPU should I pair with it?

Not really, be boring if AMD were ahead, still I ain't interested in these for gaming, its that 3600x I wanna see, if acts the same as the 2600x vs the 2700x that'll be the CPU to buy.

>nanoseconds
Only gundam pilots can discern the difference at that scale.

>0.1% lows
>11fps
Told you, Zen2 is a fucking stutterfest.

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some games tell you whether the CPU or GPU is the bottleneck, like Planetside 2, although I'm not sure if that game is a good benchmark these days

>poorfag cant spend an extra $30 to have the best experience

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AMD Ryzen is the best CPU for compiling Gentoo. Therefore it wins by default. Intel BTFO.

Yeah for something like a processor $30 is peanuts

The only reason to upgrade my CPU at this point is to get better performance in emulators so I'm just going to wait until the Switch and PS3 emulators get into a good spot and buy whatever runs those emulators best

Not really when the 3600x will do the same as the 3700x, itll also be between them at around $100 less.

suit yourself.
I upgraded from my 3570k to a r5 1600, got a decent boost in gaming but multitasking is where I got the real gains.
Being able to just leave things running while gaming is a luxury I don't want to do without again.

>obscure benchmarks come out
>massive damage control
>as more reliable and popular benchmarks come out it cannot be controlled any longer
Oh look it's the Disappointment part of the AMD cycle. The next part is "I don't care about Ryzen 3000 anyway, I'm waiting for Ryzen 4000/5000, you'll see Intel will go bankrupt!".

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Planetsides bottleneck is its spaghetti code. I have 1080ti and 2700x and it still runs like shit even after dx11 (or 12 I forgot) update in biggish fights, this is awful. I was running the game at above 100 fps back in 2012 with 2500k and 670, now 7 years later it runs WORSE on BETTER hardware, HOW?

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You are delusional. It's actually really good.

What the fuck do you have running that you couldn't easily do with an older CPU?

>Intels own analysts saying they're fucked if they don't respond soon
>Inteldrones are more deluded than the people working for the company itself
next level cope

>testing intels cpus at gimped ram and clock speeds
>still loses
>its really good
COPE

Only for video rendering incels

whatever I want.
web browser takes less of a hit, I can run encodes or VMs without even thinking if it will impact performance.

And literally everybody else who doesn't want +5% FPS in GTA V

Everybody else already has a superior Intel CPU.

youtube.com/watch?v=z3aEv3EzMyQ

Upgrade the GPU user, it's gonna be bottlenecked in 2-3 years
Also get the GTX 1660, do not fall for the RTX meme

imagine being an intel OR amd fanboy
like what the fuck is wrong with you that you will defend a cpu manufacturer on Yea Forums, atleast console wars make sense, who cares about who makes the cpu, just get the one that's the most value for your money.

What if I don't have a Youtube channel and therefore don't need to render out 7 shill videos a day?

>6700k died
>see that the new Ryzen is around the corner
>mfw calculating the cost of a ryzen + new mobo
WTF BROS I THOUGHT AMD WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAP

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>value for your money
Going purely by price/performance is a trap for poorfags.

get a 3600x

if you're rich why would you even give a fuck in the first place, just buy the top tier of both and have two pc's, one for your bathroom and one for your shed.

I already have a 8700k, didn't need to wait two years for worse performance at a 100€ discount.

So wait, if I'm not a streamer or a Youtuber, and I mainly use my PC for gaming, what is the point of this for me? All I see are expensive x570 mobos, expensive RAM (since apparently that makes a big difference for Ryzen as Infinity Fabric ticks at RAM speed), and a CPU that costs more than the Intel equivalent for something like an average 10% perf loss or more.

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Why do people recommend the 9900 for gaming when the 9600 exists?

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>implying I need to upgrade
Maybe later for emulators but that's about it

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>new mobo
Don't tell me you went for a x570 mobo?

who do you think behind these posts?

Well you need to get a 12 core, start posting on /r/AMD and get yourself a shill channel so you can recoup some of that buyer's remorse.

what posts

>6C/6T in 2019
Shit's not going to last

I could get a 9900K for 380$. Should I do it?

Yeah but 6/12 will for gaming.

Sure, why wouldn't it be? I'm running a 2700X with a 1080 Ti. Purrs like a kitten.

bruh I only upgraded from a 4670 because I thought DDR4 would be worth it

Is 8600k still a good investment?

>bought coffee lake
so basically you wasted your money already

BROS I want to run total war: warhammer 2 on high settings 1440p at 120hz. I already have a 1080 ti from a friend. 3700x is gud?

>Ryzen 7 3800X completely omitted in every benchmark
why? it's seems like the best option

desperate cope
Enjoy your slower CPU arriving late.

no current Intel CPU is a "good investment".
Wait for them to fight back with a competitive product line.
They hired so many AMD engineers after Ryzen launched that it's pretty evident they want something big to respond to it.

That's a lot cheaper than $500 on newegg. I'd go for it if you want the best for gaming.

Yes, true, 1080p/60fps and 4+ year old games work well with the 4430.

This one has lasted me for years, but I can feel it's age now. Still, so many games run at 60fps with a 1060 as well.

>no mention of ram specs
post or gtfo

>Tries offering advice
>Outs self as full retard with Noctua shill

You can fix pre 4790k low frame time issues. The difference between the 4xxx and prior is notable and no one with a 4xxx should be upgrading (unless they went full retard with an i3/i5 to save their moms money)

I still have a 3570k

Is it time to upgrade yet? Do I have to wait another year?

How does it fare against the 3950X?

Haven't seen WH2 benchmarks yet, but here's 3K

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at this point it's up to you, you will see a significant improvement whether you upgrade now or later.

Don't listen to Yea Forums though, this thread is full of kids who don't know what they're talking about.

Do I sell my i7 7700k and go for a new Amd 3900X build?

my nigga, thanks!

the 3950x won't be out till october I think. Nevertheless, the 9900k still is supreme for gaming. If you need rendering, the 3950x will kick it to the curb because more cores and threads.

Warhammer 2 at that resolution is usually GPU bound on tests

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Does NVIDIA super drop today as well? My friend is telling me it does, but I thought it was later this month.

up to you.
security flaws and housefires aside the 7700k isn't showing it's age that much yet.
3900x is obviously much better, just get a good price on the 7700k and I'd say do it.

I could get £150 (roughly $187.83) for it.

I'm not going to do the conversion in my head but that seems decent for a 2nd hand chip.
Obviously the longer you wait the less you're going to get for it.
If you're wanting the upgrade just go for it.
People aren't going to want to pay much for quad cores for much longer.

>Gaming CPU

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>i5 3550k
>gtx 670
>8gigs ddr3
>spinny spinny drive
Even shit like division is still ok on medium settings. I might upgrade one day for mobster hunter or something

July 9th. Unless you want the 2080 Super, that one is due for the 23rd.

No review samples

Currently running a 3570k from ~7 years ago
Looking at the 3700x for the upgrade

It plays most games fine, if you turn down some settings.
But it is in need of an upgrade

3700x or 3800x to run ANY game on high 1440p at 120hz paired with a 1080ti (or 2070 super)

Why wouldn't they? 1440p will be GPU bottle necked in most games

Looking a bit underwhelming
either way its stupid to upgrade now when next gen consoles are just around the corner

HOW DOES MONSTER HUNTER 4 ULTIMATE RUN ON CITRA WITH 3700X ?!?

3600X is just a few precentage points faster than 3600

10 fps on 3900x, citra isn't optimized for amd
yet.

3800x is just a better binned 3700x

do you got any cherrypicked results? they're behind on games.

The 7700k is still a really good CPU, which can get 100+ fps. What exactly are you doing that needs more than that? It's only two years old, and even the new AMD CPUs barely beat it.

>limited to no stock anywhere
>amazon canada is fucking sleeping

Why is being a canuck so suffering when it comes to these sort of things? It's like we're third world when it comes to tech releases

for the love of fuck buy an ssd now they are so cheap and are the biggest QOL improvement you can get for like 50 bucks.

watching bitwit's new vid. only 4 cpus used, so no info on the 3600x. however, the comparisons(in gaming) seem to have intel more than amd.

>3900x vs i9-9900k
>3700x vs i7-9700k
>nearly every game has higher frame performance for intel, minus the one resident evil remake
>some games seem a difference of nearly 10-13%
>streaming numbers also an intel win

PRODUCTIVITY
>amd starts winning
>cinebench numbers
>9900k barely wins over 3700x
>amd wins handbrake
>amd wins premiere pro as well
>3700x actually a better value for rendering over the far more expensive 9900k
>premiere pro dropped frames
>9700k shitting the bed hard
>3700x still giving it to 9900k while the 3900x curls that shit like nothing

What I learned from this
1. amd still fails when it comes to gaming but not by much
2. the 3700x is a great buy when considering it cost far less than the 9900k but delivers equal(if not better) performance in shit that's not related to vidya
3. the 3900x is not for gaming at all and should be avoided unless you render shit for a living
4. the 9900k is better than the 3900x for overall use
5. 9700k is not a bad cpu, but the poor performance in productivity makes you wonder if it's truly worth picking up over the 9600k, which is far cheaper but with similar gaming results
6. anyone that buys the 3900x for gaming needs to reconsider living

tl;dr i'm likely getting the 3700x because I don't just game, and the 3900x is a bad purchase for Yea Forums. the 9900k is still the overall king and the 9700k is better than the 3700x if all you do is game.

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Did someone bench it? Shame, only reason I had to upgrade from 3570k since modern games are shit.

>haswell bro
thought I was the only one. also, ddr3 is cheap as shit, stop being poor and just buy a 16gb kit for around $50.

It's lasted me for years but I can feel it's age and limitations now

I too, am on Haswell.

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>using game as a verb
opinion discarded

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well yea, I'm fully aware of how poorly optimized things are nowadays

excluding the filename seeming suspicious, motherboards are deliberately gimped until you apply a bios update that supposedly wasn't allowed to be released before the official release date, so check for one of those.

even intel shill linus is pretty much saying that amd is the realistic winner here.

>bragging about an overpriced cpu with crippling stds

i love sluts bro

I got an i3-2100
I should really upgrade my PC, but I don't want to replace my mobo and ram too

New Ryzen chips looks great, but my 3770k @ 4.4 still works well enough that I see no reason to upgrade

Just wear protection.

You can't upgrade to Zen2 with A320 motherboard. So GPU obviously.

who here buying a 2080 super and 3600x?

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>implying poozens have the money for a 2080 super
theres a reason you have to buy poomd

I hope you're less than 20 years old. It's embarrassing for an adult to write like this

>amd is the realistic winner here
price to performance? I could agree with that, but the 3900x seems like a bad purchase for gamers. the monster results in productivity do not justify spending that much for inferior gaming results.

the 3700x seems perfect for Yea Forums. lot of people here shitpost and make wojak edits while playing games.

If you don't feel heavily inconvenienced by something in your system i don't see a reason to upgrade in general. I'd still be using my 2600k if not for certain circumstances. That said by comparison my Ryzen 2600 is much smoother, doesnt have video playback problems 2600k developed etc. Its definetly better and at a much lower cost comparatively.

That said, its the perfect time to build a new system, the prices are dirt cheap. used/unused RX Gpus are criminally cheap, ram prices are back to normalish, this(last) gen cpus have great discounts. Honestly i just want to make a cheapo build for the heck of it.

i am ok with my i7

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Your i7 what.

the 3600x is really good for just 250 bucks, just ~5fps less than a 3700x which is 100€ more expensive.

the 3700x will be the realistic sweetspot for most users, but i'm buying a 3900x with the future in mind.

based Asuka poster, what else are you ok with