Just a quick reminder your made up rules were wrong lol

If anything, it confirms that relevancy is important, since it has been 99.9% confirmed we are getting a new Banjo game.
The question is what was planned first, Banjo in Smash or the new game/remaster?

>every time patternfags are certain their dumb rules are true, Sakurai blows them the fuck out
>they still keep trying to find new rules and patterns afterwards and the process repeats itself
Why do they do it?

Reminder that Megami Tensei did NOT start as a video game but as a book series instead.

Yeah, that's right. Other media franchises are IN so long as they have a video game.

>must be from a videogame
why is there a Persona character in the game then

Doomguy is pretty much a garuntee in my mind after that Doug Bowser Pete Hines talk.

press D to dab on weeblets

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My rule was "I want Banjo in smash", so I don't know what you're talking about.

Any and all rules were thrown out the window when cloud was added. I don’t understand why anyone still thinks there’s some sort of rule as to who is or isn’t allowed to get in at this point

I don't know. Must be autism.

I hope wonder red gets in.

then they announce the W101 port and W101-2 along with it

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haha yeah

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That character is from a videogame. Mario has a tv show, that doesn’t stop Mario from having videogame origins.

D

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>LOL!! fuck you, hahah bear and bird made it!! thread for the billionth time

It's sad people can't even be able to shut up and enjoy things without crapping on other peoples' dishes with their trashy gloating.

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The Persona games aren't based off books

This thread is more about idiots and their made up rules.

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Fuck off, Capcom has 3 franchises featured

I mean that door is already btfo, make a new one

>crapping on other peoples' dishes
You mean crapping on their fake rules that they believe are totally factual, yet are continually proven wrong. I don't really see any problem with that. I love shattering peoples' delusions. I love when Sakurai destroys my expectations too with something like Plant.

>noooo my third parties only rule! my vague reggie quote! my incorrect absolutely safe capsule sprite!
>noooo my no religious references rule! my no realistic firearms rule! my no 100% western characters rule!
>both are the only two characters with actual evidence going for them rather than vague leaks and stupid patterns
Rulesfags are going to be btfo twice again

>Mega Man
>Street Fighter
>???
What's the third one?

Monster Hunter

Monster Hunter. Rathalos took a playable Hunter's spot.

So, we are looking for a character that's getting a new game this year or the next one.

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Holy shit, you fucking moron.

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> If you are in Smash, you will get a new game
That worked out for Little Mac right? Imagine being this fucking ungrateful

> WAAAAAH GIVE GAME! HE IN SMASH! WAAAA
Autistic furfag. neck yourself

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>must be
You haven’t been to Smashboards I see.

And also: must be from a video game series that has had at least one installment on a Nintendo console.
Preemptively posting this image to shoot down smart asses.

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What? This is not because of Smash that a new Banjo game is confirmed.
exgpro.com/cable-guys/
They only release new toys for upcoming movies and games.
They teased a new Banjo toy back in May.

Doomguy (Doom Eternal - Nov 19)
Nakoruru (Samurai Shodown - Q4 19)

> Toy = New game
That's even more retarded

>enjoy things
Enjoy what? He doesn’t come out till fall.

reminder that this announcement didn't do shit for real banjo fans since it wasn't even a banjo game

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Not really when they only ever release products to promote new games, animated series and movies.

> Patternfag
Sure thing buddy

Same. I’m way too convinced.

It did work out for Mac. First he appeared as an AT in Brawl, then he got a new game.

>Nakoruru
Nah

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jesus christ, you guys really do pull theories out of your ass

Cloud. Cloud broke all these rules. I don’t give a shit about the 3ds game that had cloud as a little chibi when smash cloud is clearly ff7/advent children cloud. FF7 ending up on switch later doesn’t count either because that was years after smash 4. Cloud broke all this made up rule shit, and I still have no clue why everyone still thinks any made up rules have any merit anymore after cloud

He hasn't got a new game since he was playable in Smash retard, Tons of other AT got a game after Brawl, but are dead just like Punch-Out

That's not a pattern, it's literally their job.
Did you even check the website or are you another retarded rosterfag?

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>My jaded and cynical ass represents all TRUE Banjo fans XD XD rawrrrr!! Hehe! XP

Does Mai have a 3d model?

Does KoF even have a title coming up?

> Banjofags still spamming the boards like retards

Real talk, why the fuck is Banjo playable? He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise

Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but this ugly bear who has only 5 games, 2 of which weren't even in Japan gets to be playable?

Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this.

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How did they explain the DK rap? The character was just licensed or whatever, but the song is maximum Rare being Rare and decidedly not Japanese.

Who said you had to be playable? His revival was in Brawl. You don’t make up the rules.

Doomguy and Leon Kennedy.

So is this a criclejerking thread or are people going to talk about the games? The difference in the reveals of the Hero and BK is quite funny since even with memes DQfags tend to talk about the series more easily. Kinda reminds me of the Simon/K. Rool reveal where rosterfags just kept circlejerking the crocodile.

>He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise
False, he is getting a new game.
The only valid argument against him was terminated.

Persona and SMT are basically separate franchises

She does, yeah. Two of them. KoF 14, and SNK Heroines.

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2020, but if a KoF character is in it will be Kyo.

shut the fuck up bomberfag
shut the fuck up maifag

Nintendo owned everything Rare did with DK

Anyone know who the Japanese think is coming out? I have a hard time believing they are saying Doomguy as well.

Shantae 5 coming in end of 2019. I do think she has a decent shot.

>he is getting a new game
And where is that?

I bet most ridley fans never even played a metriod game either

Based.

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>Kyo would be cool, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Sakurai were to try that. Mai would be more interesting imo though. She’s got more personality, a more unique moveset, and would push a lot of boundaries in Smash.

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>getting a new game
just like Krool?

Maifag, you're small time.

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:^)

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Confirmed by the company that only makes figurines for upcoming movies and games creating a Banjo figure.
Crash and Spyro were teased the same way, so it's probably just a remake and not Banjo-Threeie.

Most Metroid "fans" I know don't even like Metroid, only Metroid Prime.

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I’m just happy to see them recognized again

Not a main character.

One of my friends think something Minecraft. Another thinks Goemon.

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Not a real source retard

Donkey Kong Country is still relevant.
And K. Rool is the most reccuring villain in the franchise.
According to Sakurai, what matters is that your franchise must still be relevant.

Does that mean Steve and Sans still have a shot? POGGERS

The last DKC game came out over 5 years ago

>the character Minecraft
>people don't even know he has a name
The absolute state of Steve

Technically it would actually be SMT since Persona is a spinoff of SMT.

>Denialfag
I'll enjoy playing Banjo on Switch next year, Stevie. Keep seething.

It literally comes from their Twitter.

Goemon would be based

Imagine thinking this game made the difference between joker getting in smash or not.

Cloud really stretched this by Enix refusing to include anything from a game before 7

Leon would be cool too. Don’t mind him one bit.

This.

>patternfags are at it again
You’re just as bad as leakerfags. You make these threads obnoxious as fuck. Stop relying on patterns. Please show me a STATEMENT from Sakurai saying only MCs can get in.

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> Brings up Steve for no reason
Imagine having a literal block stuck in your head rent free

Lone Wanderer or Courier better be next after Doomguy.

Apparently, James Bond was gonna be in Melee, but he couldn't get the rights from MGM.

The roster for Ultimate was chosen in 2015, while DKC:TF was released in 2014. So only one year really passed.

Nah. At best this is an intentional easter egg they snuck in there as a means to get people talking, put Shante's name out there for the Smash Sepculation scene, and hopefully increase the number to request for her inclusion when they start picking newcomers for a potential Smash 6.

Most likely scenario? One of the animators was having a giggle.

>He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise
>Actual iconic characters like Bomberman
Speak for yourself.
Barely anyone gives a shit about Bomberman, and while yes, he did recently get a new game, his franchise will likely go straight back to being dead anyway since it bombed.

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>According to Sakurai, what matters is that your franchise must still be relevant.
what matters is that the game happened. Ice Climbers, Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, mother3, castlevania, kid icarus before brawl. I'll never understand "relevancy"fags. Of course you gotta pick popular characters but that doesn't rule out characters who were popular before.

They still think Minecraft after Microsoft already got a rep?

>Game coming out in 2020
>Microsoft already in the game
He's in boys.

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If there's no NCR Ranger Mii Costume I will poop on Sakurai

Personally I think non-video game IPs can work on the condition that they have several notable games, and their abilities are pulled from those games. So for example Batman gets in, but his moveset, stage and songs are based on the old Sunsoft video games.

youtube.com/watch?v=UHUiON7Y4jQ

Not that I'm actually pushing for Batman, he's just an example.

Not him, but the alignment isn't the same.

Also see
Amazon Germany listed a new Banjo Kazooie game shortly after Nintendo's E3 presentation.

He was just speculating. He really doesn’t care too much as all he ever wanted was Banjo.

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It hasn’t been a spin-off of smt for years. It’s just persona now.

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>You’re just as bad as leakerfags. You make these threads obnoxious as fuck. Stop relying on patterns. Please show me a STATEMENT from Sakurai saying only MCs can get in.
You don't need a statement when every single third party character is a protagonist. Adding Mai over Terry or Kyo would be like adding Juri or Cammy before Ryu.

youtube.com/watch?v=cNjBX_TvNDQ

It has a PC98 port, and at least one Japanese mapset. It's not a huge following, but there's a niche that enjoys the game.

I REFUSE to believe that boomjoe is in the game I will NEVER accept it and I'll just turn off my fucking switch every time I see him appear.

>what matters is that the game happened.
Except for Ice Climbers and ROB, they were all chosen because they were relevant at the time of their inclusion.
>Duck Hunt
His trailer literally ends with a promotion for DUCK HUNT on the Virtual console.
>Wii Fit
Wii Fit U is a thing.
>mother3
Was released the year the Brawl roster was decided.
>castlevania
Got a new game a year before Simon and Richter were chosen.
>kid icarus before brawl
Sakurai intended to revive the franchise just after Brawl.
>G&W
Game & Watch collection was released in 2000.

That's not that relevant an example since Joker doesn't use anything from the Megami Tensei games, just Persona which started as a video game.

A better example, while I don't think it has a shot, is Yokai Watch since far more people are familiar with its games than the manga. It was even news to me it started as one.

I hope they add The Water Nigger that offed himself a couple of weeks ago

The vertical plank is not placed the same way.

Reimu!

You have the same dreams I do but you're hurting yourself for believing in them.

>Sakurai intended to revive the franchise just after Brawl

That's a bigger stretch than Stretch Armstrong in a black hole

FUCKING BOOMERS
I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WON THIS IS BULLSHIT
WHY DOES NINTENDO KEEP CATERING TO THE OLD MEN

we've already been over this, be fucking happy you got the assist spot

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>Kyo
Disappointment.

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Who?

yup

its him

The "Sakurai games only" rule still seems to be holding up.

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That’s called patternfagging. There’s no statement that says it must be that way. Also, Pikachu. Red is the protagonist, Pika is the mascot and Jiggs is just popular.

Can you guess who SNK’s mascot is?

>Adding Mai over Terry or Kyo would be like adding Juri or Cammy before Ryu.
No, it’d be like adding Chun Li over Ryu, and even then, not really cause Ryu is Mr. Fighting games, while Mai and Chun Li tie for 2nd place as the most iconic characters in fighting games after Ryu, with Mai being significantly more popular and iconic than the rest of the SNK cast.

Again, idk why I keep having this argument again and again with people. If you wanna diss on Mai, diss on the fact that she’s never getting past CERO, cause that one is actually true. Debating her popularity is just blatant ignorance though.

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Honestly, I do think relevancy does matter. Sakurai did say that characters without a future ARE rarely chosen. (Key word: rarely). For every instance of someone like K. Rool becoming playable, we also have guys like Isaac, Takamaru and Krystal barely scraping on by as assist trophies.

It's just that K. Rool and Banjo & Kazooie just had a shit load of legacy and fan demand behind them that Sakurai was willing to overlook them being "irrelevant". K. Rool was the villain and final boss of all the Rare developed DK platformers during the 90s and Banjo & Kazooie were basically treated as mascots of Nintendo during the N64 era. Banjo-Kazooie was pretty much the most successful new IP on the console.

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>Can you guess who SNK’s mascot is?
Terry?

For how Banjobros were mocked for months, this is an act of mercy. I'm going to gloat all the way to fall. Once they are out and I'm having fun, I MAY consider it even.

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Based Banjochads and Kazooiestacies dabbing on the stevecels

Antibanjofags were the trashiest people in the history of Smash speculation

Cloud was in multiple Nintendo KH games anyways. He was even playable in one of them.

Imagine getting cucked out of the biggest video game crossover of all time by a so called “irrelevant” character

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>Can you guess who SNK’s mascot is?
G-Mantle
>No, it’d be like adding Chun Li over Ryu, and even then, not really cause Ryu is Mr. Fighting games, while Mai and Chun Li tie for 2nd place as the most iconic characters in fighting games after Ryu, with Mai being significantly more popular and iconic than the rest of the SNK cast.
No, it's not, Chun-Li is one of the main characters of SF, she was the one that had a personal beef with the antagonist of the game she was introduced. Mai was never portrayed as more than a filler fanservice character, even Shun'ei and Nakoruru that appeared in one game had more impact in KoF's story than Mai.

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Actually, it’s Enta-chan:

google.co.jp/amp/s/thegeek.games/2017/05/06/snk-now-has-a-new-mascot-girl/amp/

But no, Terry’s popularity pales in comparison to Mai’s.

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'Sup. I'm your 4th dlc character.

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You’re sure it’s not the angle?

Nope, G-Mantle got replaced recently.

Piss off ya falseflagger. Just because a character's iconic, doesn't mean it guarantees a spot in the roster. Had that been the case, characters like Kratos and Rayman would've been in a long time a go, ALONGSIDE with Bomberman. Don't just go around waving that "I'M ICONIC" flag, when there are other franchise that are more prolific than Bomberman will ever be.
Speaking as a massive Bomberfag.

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>muh twitter trends
The fact they genderflipped terry just so they could put him in SNK Heroines means more than those google trends ever will
go back to smashboards

>google trends

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>google trends
90% of those are probably people trying to fap to Mai, which isn't a real indication of popularity

entire shape in the game is symmetrical while the opening isn't. I don't think it means anything but it's not really the same.

So a joke character added for fun proves Terry is more popular than the one pushing merchandize and cosplay?

Ok.

Also, this argument is stupid. I’ve never NOT liked Terry, but he’d be pretty basic in Smash, being just a variant take on the balanced shoto archetype. The highlight of him being the POWA WAVE and BUSTA WOLF memes, but playstyle wise he’d be pretty standard, and not as interesting as Mai, who has a less standard moveset and feels like more of a long shot because of her blatant sexuality. She also captures much more as an overall gaming icon than Terry who’d just be there for SNK. Mai feels like an overall better pick for a crossover like Smash.

He's coming to finish the fight.

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This is literally the only rule
Goku fans can an hero for all I care

How is that not popularity? Also a huge chunk of that is China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Korea, where the character shows up a lot in mobile games and MMOs.

I just want to see the apocalyptic shitstorm when one or both of the remaining characters are shill picks for new games.

R sold millions stupid, the series is far from dead

It was not branded as SMT within Smash. Makes me think Jack Frost will have a chance as an actual SMT rep some day.

I'd prefer the Doom marine but I have no issue with this.

I genuinely would care as I got what I wanted already.

Bait or retard? Banjo is WAY below him

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IIRC Retro did consider including K. Rool in Tropical Freeze as a hidden final boss but decided against it. I doubt they will exclude him again next time, especially after Smash.

>and not as interesting as Mai, who has a less standard moveset
>Mai
>less standard moveset
She would be Greninja but with fire instead of water, literally the least interesting ninja of SNK roster

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This is how I feel. I want doom for chainsaws and shotguns, but halo would be fine.

Jebaited

Like if you told me "Doomguy is absolutely never getting in, not in a billion years, but you can have Chief" I'd settle for it.

no one cared when he got in sonic all star racing and that's actually a good game

She literally has none of Greninja’s moves. Do you even play either game bro? Or are you just baiting now?

That wasn't too long after N&B, was it?

Admit it you only want her in to spike up the porn of her

Exactly.

Hypothesis: People who make up imaginary rules that are constantly proven wrong aren't on the same page with the developers and dislike many of the characters that have been included.

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He's still dead.

>IIRC Retro did consider including K. Rool in Tropical Freeze as a hidden final boss but decided against it.

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Template. Do not judge the original 12, as nobody knew what to expect from the original game, and any expectations you would develop for the series would be for future entries.

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Not really. In Japan maybe. Everywhere else? No.

N&b nov11 2008
Racing feb23 2010

>remake
yeah you fucking wish.

That was a wider gap than I remembered. And to think at the time I hoped he'd still get a new game.

It should just be
>want
>indifferent
>don’t want

>tell someone to go back to smashboards
>instantly get a fuckhuge post with reddit spacing
kek

Fighting games aren't platformers.

>spike up the porn of her
She doesn’t need that though, she’s Tifa tier in porn quantity. And my type of girl has always been petite, so if that was my reasoning, I’d choose Nakoruru or Kula Diamond.

I want Mai cause I genuinely think she’d be a cool addition to Smash if done with no creative restrictions and because she’s a unexpected gaming icon who genuinely deserves it. I’m realistic enough to admit it’ll never happen cause of CERO. But think of how hilarious her Kirby hat would be if done right. It’s details like those that make Mai the better pick. Yes, I want her cause of her sexuality, but not for the reasons you think. She’s massively underrated in Smash discussion.

Cloud was in a 3ds spinoff game you faggot

>remake
If there's a game it's probably a fucking port of a 20 year game.

>b-but it has to be from a series with a future
lmao
;_;

The only rules were that It'll be characters from IPs not yet in the game, and a single company won't get two reps in the dlc.

If you listened to anything other than what sakarai said, you're an idiot.

If you honestly didn't expect banjo, you're an idiot.

If you didn't expect DQ hero, you're an idiot.

If you honestly were hoping or expecting for Minecraft Steve, you're an idiot

Maifag/GoogleTrendsfag outed himself as ManletSpirit in Smashboards: smashboards.com/members/manlyspirit.168330/

>Mai feels like an overall better pick for a crossover like Smash.
Did hero teach you nothing about protags getting in before side characters

It's not about FF7 specifically you absolute dumb cunt. He's the rep for final fantasy as a whole.

How can you be this fucking retarded? Holy shit.

If indifferent, leave it blank. I included the "given" category because that still shows you knew what to expect from the developers. Like I knew Peach would be in the game but I wasn't extremely excited about it or something, not compared to Mega Man or Cloud.

Banjo is getting a new game, so he is relevant.

Ports aren't new games.

You guys might not have considered this, but I think he was making a joke

>Persona is a videogame
lmao good one

Hasn't this happened more often than not? They always include a new pokemon from the new generation. This has happened with Bayonetta, Cloud, FE characters, DQ Hero, etc. I'd be willing to bet there's a new Banjo game coming, or a remake.

twitter.com/exquisitegamin3/status/1134855431959011329?s=21
This is not going to be a port. The backpack of Banjo is different from the original games, and the company is responsible for the release of figurines only relating to new games, movies and series. It's either a remake à la Crash and Spyro or a sequel.

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I'm hoping for a sequel and not a remake to an already good game.

>ROB

>figurine hinted at before E3
>nothing shown of a new banjo game at E3
>amazon listing rumor for switch and not xbox
None of these point to a remake at all.

The only way you’d know that is cause you go to Smashboards yourself, and the fact that you don’t know me from 6 years ago, proves you’re part of the new batch of Zoomers shitting up the place.

Idk why you keep bringing this up as if it’s something significant. I’ve posted pictures of what I look like on Smashboards and on social media under than handle. Trying to “doxx” me isn’t gonna intimidate me kid.

Banjo did shit for the gaming industry compared to Bomberman you dumb zoomer

What about ROB? He was literally the controller of a game, two games in fact, it was created for videogames.

E3 is not the only place to reveal games, user.

>redditspacing again
oh no no no no no

But he's not a video game character.

Why not even a cg trailer to hint at development?

They used the tooie promo render for this

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Cloud was also on the GBA as part of the Kingdom Hearts series

I'm not normally a rulefag, but I think spirits deconfirm.

>gunner with a ranger sequoia

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>trying to act like the ebin troll cause he’s got nothing to latch onto
You’re trying too hard.

you guys have any pics that only you want, pic related for me
losing your game carlos would of been better to say it blew up in their faces?

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No rules.
It's his time to shine.

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>the maifag is here again
Stop. If SNK ever get represented, it'll be Terry. Just stop with fucking Mai.

shantae is as likely as fucking goku at this point but if luigi in a tennis outfit is a different character than the actual luigi i really doubt the spirits actually matter
if anything they could just use the shantae 5 art of her and re-title the spirit "Shantae (HGH ver.)"

I’m not the only one who wants frank but he’s definitely not highly requested

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Game and watch and ROB

What the fuck would a zoomer know about banjo?

who cares what dumb shit you did 6 years ago
what matters is that you're posting dumb shit and that you keep getting baited like a retard

who?

I’m not gonna stop posting a character I’d like to see cause if your autism. Learn to fucking deal with it my dude.

Bomberman did what, exactly

Bethesda Mii costumes:
Dragonborn
Vault boy
Ranger
BJ Blaskowitz
Commander Keen
Corvo

Alright Zoomer-kun, whatever you say. Dunno why you’re obsessed with stalking me when most people here don’t give a shit though.

bonus if theres a gimmick where defeated opponents drop guns

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First homosexual video game character. Look it up.

Tick-tock.

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Only brickbattle + paintball gun, and some other misc gears. Nothing after 2012.

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>contriversal opinions

Turn all clone characters into costumes (main fighter is based on chronological entry in the series).

No series needs more than 3 reps(other than mario), usually consisting of Protagonist, their primary antagonist and a friend/rival (ex:Link, Ganondorf and Zelda or Kirby, DDD and Metaknight)

All new comers welcome, but fuck fire emblem and pokemon. It's about the characters that best represent the series, not trying to shove in more names every entry.

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Pick 2

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Holy shit
GAY BOMBERMAN FOR SMASH

Porky and Dante

Klonoa and Kosmos

Crash and Doomguy

Doomguy and Chosen Undead

Crash and Doomguy

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Doomguy and Nightmare

Nintendo deleted all the trans rights stages though, so we'll never have our lgbt character on the battlegrounds as more than an assist :(

This.

Sakurai has even literally stated this.

all me

Dumb shit I've been told over the years:
>Bowser won't get in because he's a villain
>Peach won't get in because she's a girl and it's super smash BROS (yes I pointed out Samus is a girl, they just made up a bunch of excuses)
>Olimar can't get in because he's too small
>Ridley can't get in because he's too big
>Mega Man, Sonic and Cloud can't get in because third party
>Snake can't get in because gun
>Bayonetta can't get in because too sexy
>Banjo can't get in because dead series
>Belmonts can't get in because "nobody cares about Castlevania"
>King K. Rool can't get in, for no clearly defined reason, despite that he was one of the top picks for the Smash ballot (wasn't he #1?)
You rulefags keep being wrong over and over. I'll just be over here having all of my characters confirmed over and over and over again. I have two more to go, and I know for certain they will be included eventually, even if it's not in ultimate and even if the series goes on hiatus for a while or something.

Crash and Leon. I'd be happy with any combo of them or Dante/Doomguy/Dovahkiin/Ryu Hayabusa though.

Arle and Crash, fuck the rules

real question. why the fuck would nintendo get a Banjo-Kazooie game when Microsoft has the IP now?

More sells

> One of the games that revolutionized multiplayer in gaming, as it allowed up to 4-8 players before it became a staple, hell some games could even have 10 players
> Hi-ten Bomberman was the first HD game ever made
> First third-party to crossover with a Nintendo property

Tons of zoomers wanted Banjo, most of them weren't even born then BK came out

Adeleine and Doomguy

real question. why the fuck would nintendo get Banjo-Kazooie in smash when Microsoft has the IP now?

phoenix and crash

It just would've been more licensing costs to get more titles, I presume. If it weren't for that we'd probably have Atlus giving a smorgasbord of Mii costumes for Frost, Nocturne, Strange Journey, Apocalypse, etc.

An even-worse case would be how Squeenix didn't give jack shit for FF beyond Cloud and Midgar.

Screw this list I want the Master Chief and Klonoa.

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The only rule is "it has to have been on a Nintendo system before"

Just started playing Banjo for the first time and I really don't understand how anyone could enjoy this game over SM64. In terms of visuals its obviously more impressive as it came out later but in terms of design and controls it is so inferior it isn't even funny.

Rare owns the IP. Not Microsoft.

Because they realize Banjo is beter suited to the Switch's playerbase, which would mean more sales

>Isabelle
>red

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Guess who owns Rare then

Based.

No fucking clue.

I wish, but anything having to do with nukes is probably off the menu

For me it comes down to three: Phoenix Wright, Chosen Undead, Ryu H. I'd eliminate one of the latter ones, because you know they'd end up feeling like another anime swordsman. Whichever one fights more uniquely can stay.

What makes you feel the need to compare it to Super Mario 64? If you just want to play more Mario 64 then go for a romhack.

Doomguy and Ace Attorney. I'm sick of anime swordsmen.

>most people here don’t give a shit though.
>consistently gets multiple (You)s every post

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Nope
sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/

>Besides that, it might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the experience of being on a Nintendo platform.

Only rule is they have to be a video game character.

The bandicoot and bfg-guy.

The only rule is that Sakurai likes to break the dumb rules people make up.

You're right. I just wish it had more platforming.

lmao

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I could just lie and say I wanted Isabelle, but then I wouldn't be telling the truth. There's nothing wrong with the character, I just didn't see the potential for villager, I didn't end up liking the way he plays, and I didn't want another similar villager.

they're coming

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Chad Mumbo

I'll take the optimistic view that they're keeping SMT and Persona seperate so we can one day have a rep for each.

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>and while yes, he did recently get a new game, his franchise will likely go straight back to being dead anyway since it bombed.
No surprise considering it was low effort shovelware. And don't even get me started on the DLC. That shit was Konami's lazy way of saying " hey, you know those franchises we're never going to do anything meaningful with again? Yeah, we totally still care about those! Give us money because we're referencing things you like!"

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Crash and Morrigan. Terry, Doomguy, Hayabusa and Goemon are all based too though.

> Replying to bait
It didn't even bomb retard, also the DLC was free, so why even complain about that?

as contrasted by virgin mumbo

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>Microsoft is listed rather than Rare, even though Atlus is listed seperately from Sega
>Microsoft is missing their own mascot or a representative from their most important series
>Contrary to popular belief there is no rule that states a company can only get one new comer as DLC
>Banjo already got Microsofts foot in the door
>No rule stating you have to be on a Nintendo console before you get into Smash
Wait for us Banjo bros

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It would sell and I think Microsoft has poor sales in japan

It was published a fucking year before before Smash Ultimate was in development.

I’d believe in chief for very similar reasons that you do if Doomguy did not have more going for them. They might do 2 swordsmen, but the remaining dlc will never be 2 green space marines.

See you there Doomguy!

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This is already as stale and retarded as the "literal who gator" pasta. Please stop shitting up every single fucking thread.

>if Doomguy did not have more going for them.
Like?

>Banjo and Kazooie are in
>Steve and stevefags foreverial BTFO'd
>All the characters positioned to be likely inclusions are based (Crash, Doomguy, Leon Kennedy, Dark Souls)
>Joker was the only mediocre DLC character
How did everything go so right?

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>How did everything go so right?
But that's wrong, there's no new banjo game.

>and that's actually a good game
plus isn't it the N&B design?

So if the theme thus far has been primary character and their sidekick, does this mean a Digitamer is on the books?

You know, outside of "X has a game on Nintendo Switch" and "X's dev totally talked to Nintendo" I have yet to see anyone give a reason why any of these characters are likely

>new banjo game
Monkey's paw request

Pete Hines confirming last year that Bethesda has spoken to Nintendo about smash. A couple weeks ago, an interview between Doug Bowser and Pete Hines was recorded where Pete inplies that there may be “surprises” for Nintendo fans in the near future in the context of doom. The clip link is: m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTM-3YCOro&t=2308s
also there is stuff like google theory and the joker leak, while not completely credible, both have been correct about Banjo and Microsoft/squeenix content respectively, and both have contained Ryu Hayabusa and Doom Slayer as the last DLC

Setting yourself up for failure stevie

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I'm going all-in on Crash being one of the last two

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>Muh only sold 10k in Japan

All of this speculation.
These 4 DLC characters.. ARE WAVE 1 OF 8.
Wave 2 of 4 NEW MORE DLC characters starts on 2020.

That's right. 8 more years of 4 more characters each year.

no
please fucking dear god no

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Ammy and Jibanyan

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based

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This is Sakurai's revenge on all the fanboys saying the wait between Smash bros. is too long.

Snake from metal gear?

I think the remaining 2 will be Dovahkiin and Rayman.

Travis, I don't need anyone else, I've been getting exactly what I want, maybe Waluigi since my best friend likes him

The thing is, he isn't and that's the exact reason why.
When Itsuno got asked if Dante would be in Smash, he responded to the tune of "I'd love to if Nintendo asked me, but it wouldn't be right to have him in Smash before he had a proper showing in a Nintendo console", indirectly confirming that there hadn't been talks to include him in Smash well after the game's release and Joker had been announced. Considering DLC is always chosen long in advance, then it's easy to assume Dante is not in the Fighters Pack 1.
Dante CAN be DLC. But he isn't now.

i've heard that rule and it's bullshit. third party characters didn't even enter the series until brawl, and james bond didn't even originate from a game. he's also a western property. by some sort of miracle i could almost see it happening nowadays, but not for smash 64

The only two real violations have been cloud and maybe pacman. Every other character has been in a Nintendo exclusive.

pretty much this he'll probably be in the next fighter's pass

Talking to Nintendo about Smash doesn't improve his chances because it's not like no other company has talked to Nintendo about it. Hines was just one of the ones to talk about it, which the fact that he did tells me it didn't go anywhere. As for the surprises, that doesn't have to have anything to do with Smash. And you already addressed how credible the theories and "leaks" are.

He's inherently related to gaming though

I noever said he was confirmed. I said he has more going for him than chief. It’s not like Nintendo or Bethesda would cancel the Doomguy deal if Pete made a vague hint. There’s way too many parts involved for that to make sense.

Doom guy and Amaterasu

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My point is that his chances are no better than anyone else who has a game on Switch, and that if Pete Hines talked about talking with Nintendo about Smash, that likely nothing actually came of it.

where's the new game idiot?

He is also a videogame original.

Fuck your rules, I pick just one.

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Game watch was just the "character" that appeared in the game & watch game consoles.

If the rules were proper then Gatornigger wouldn't have made it in by virtue of being too irrelevant and shitty

Nostaliga faggots should KYS asap. No one gives two shits or knows about some faggot gator from 1935 when your parents weren't divorced.

Literally should have never got in smash. Bayonetta got in because she was relevant and a recent game release, not some literal who green shit.

>inb4 muh rob muh pacman muh duck hunt
Icon characters of different eras or mascot characters. No one gives two shits about literal who the gator

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Retard

nintendo listening to the fans is worrying. thank goodness people like the maifaggot don't exists outside of this board

What about him? He started his existence as a videogame character.

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nice render.

All he said on the subject was “yes”. If nothing happened, he’d have probably said something else. Pete is a PR guy. His job is to get people excited for Bethesda games and ip. He probably sees extremely vague hints as a way to get people talking about Bethesda.

rent free faggots

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Prince and Klonoa

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>dumb ugly fat fuck cunt.png

zoomie user cant win against krool in online

Reimu and the second one can be whoever, I don't care.

user, Metal Gear is a videogame.

Yeah thank God these inspired artists have integrity and cycnically market a female Toad to appeal to feminine demographics, rather than having utilize characters with personality that people like just because their fans would be happy.

based

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I can SMELL the Stevefags fear sweats.

>Yeah thank God these inspired artists have integrity and cycnically market a female Toad to appeal to feminine demographics
as opposed to appealing to the incel demographic with a whore nobody cares about about?

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We got K Rool and BK. Everything i wanted. Faggoty boys getting BTFO is even sweeter. I love this life.

zoomie user fixated on some literal who gatorshit that people who grew up then didn't even give two shits about

Who?

K Rool and Ridley shouldn't be playable and should be boss characters instead.

Ridley yes, Kroc, no

He's in and you know it

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Game and watch is a collection of different characters rolled into one.

Who said they MUST be on a Nintendo console? Did Sakurai say that?

Why do people say this after Grant Kirkhope kept on denying Banjo being in Smash up until his reveal?

not in this fighter pass but maybe in the next one tho

That’s because Sakurai confirmed spirits deconfirm fighters in the November direct.

Except he didn't.

Travis and Amaterasu.

He actually did let it slip that he personally views Assist Trophies as an insult for characters he doesn't deem worthy of playability back when Waluigi's was shown off for Smash 4 on the website, though.

>Bethesda PR Pete Hines was asked
about if Bethesda had talks with Nintendo about Smash Ultimate. Response was “Oh Yeah”
>Nintendo Power E3 2019 Podcast, Pete Hines has stated “Who knows, maybe more surprises for Nintendo fans at Quakecon this year”
>Mick Gordon, composer for Doom 2016 and Eternal was asking for help on music for a “Video game” Doom Eternal was already announced then. Grant Kirkhope composer for Banjo-Kazooie has stated that he knew about Banjo’s inclusion in Smash since January, same time as Mick Gordon posted was asking for help.
>Sakurai knows about John Carmack, only international developer he has mentioned before
>No full Western representation nor FPS representation
>Bethesda being close to Nintendo as Microsoft is.
>Every Doom game except for Doom3 being on a Nintendo console
>Would fit the “Unexpected characters”
>Violence rule: Bayonetta, Joker, Snake
>Realistic gun rule: Joker
>Non-Japanese character rule: Banjo-Kazooie
>literally all fake leaks have Doomguy in it for some reason
>Both Boomer and zoomer character

He’s fucking in

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Just use red joker and spam down air

We've known he privately revels in the suffering he's able to cause for quite some time.

Yes, and? Is still a videogame original.

doomguy would be rad but I doubt it

STILL MAD

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Nah, they had their chance to make boss Ridley fight like his Super Metroid incarnation in 4. Shameful display.

Do people still not realize Grant was lying to make people surprised when banjo was revealed?

After this fight, Rayman doesn't deserve to be playable anymore.

meta ridley is fine.

Die mad about it.

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How's that dk game with k rool coming?

Inevitably.

When? Time's wasting, people are dying.

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What else is new?

lol

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Not K. Rool. At this rate yellowstone will explode before he gets in a new game.

Ubisoft has been working on it, before it was known that Retro would have to salvage Prime 4. I think this is going to upset people nonetheless.

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I love rabbids.

People who insist that Ridley should be a boss can go fuck themselves. Literally no reason for him to be a boss over a playable character and they've already made him playable anyway so it's all moot. K. Rool being a boss is arguably even more retarded.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they finally brought him and the Kremlings back now that they seem to be aware how much people missed him.

Imagine if Sakurai made him into a boss again after making him playable. That'd be pretty funny imo.

>Wouldn't surprise me in the least if they finally brought him and the Kremlings back now that they seem to be aware how much people missed him.
In the year 2024. At this rate a new mario vs dk would be faster.

dkvine.com/interactive/forums/index.php?showtopic=14021 Nonny, I told you. Ubisoft is making it.

>he won't be in smash
>people won't play him past day one
>he won't be in a new game
>well he won't be in a new game for a couple of years (you are here)
>the game was bad
>he won't be in the next smash
>he won't be in the next DK game
etc. Crocodilians are patient animals and they live a long, long time. I waited 10 years to see the king's return in Ultimate, I can wait 3 or 4 for the inevitable next DKC.

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Definitely getting revealed at the Game awards

>HD models now exists
I can see people remaking the original with these new models and assets from the stage.

If he gets in I will have a lot more respect for bethesda for not pushing for Dragonborn or Vault boy.

That doesn't indicate any kind of development. That's reorganizing at best.
>I waited 10 years to see the king's return in Ultimate
And that's pathetic, and more over not actually worth it.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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>Bro we finally got the most requested character as DLC
>We are totally now getting literally every single western character ever made
This is why I dread the day with a Non-Vidya character gets in.
Imagine the retards that will start requesting Naruto and Jotaro in Smash if Goku gets in?
Snake and Brawl were mistakes

Feels pretty worth it to me, all the love he's gotten is more than I ever imagined.

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Not as pathetic as persistently trying to shut down people's satisfaction with a character's inclusion on the roster. Scamper on back to your treetops, monkey.

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Literally everyone has talked to Nintendo about Smash.
Bethesda is not special, let alone Doomguy.
And even if there were a Bethesda rep, it will be either a TES Protag or a Fallout Protag.

>We are totally now getting literally every single western character ever made
Absolutely no one is saying this. Doomguy is very much the only Western character being discussed seriously.

>Not as pathetic as persistently trying to shut down people's satisfaction
You're right, it's more so. He didn't even get an actual game. You treat smash as some sort hall of fame for some reason.

>implying it isn't
Captain Falcon will never get another game, but he'll also never be forgotten.

Nothing wrong with the vidya characters since most ones people ask for are fairly valid. Only exception I would say is Shantaefags because they think their series is something big when it really isn't.,

I dread the gates opening to non-vidya characters though. There would be unironic spongebob fags within days.

>Every single western character ever made
The only "western" characters we've gotten are all major touchstones of Nintendo history, be it Diddy, K.Rool, Dark Samus or Banjo. (D.Samus less so but she's an echo so)

I think Crash is the only other "Western" rep we'll see. Ideally DLC4 is a more left-field pick that's a balance between shill for an upcoming game and a cult classic character. It'd be the real strawberry on the shortcake

Sorry, meant to say Crash.

>implying it isn't
Not according to the people who developed it.

Banjo deconfirmed Crash. We're not getting another shirtless Western animal platformer mascot on the same pass.

user, you're an idiot for thinking that.
>Literal non-entity characters with no defined weapons/skillsets
>Doomguy
Vault Boy and Dovakiin Mii costumes are way more likely if we get a Bethesda rep.

>Literally have two JRPG protags with blades and magic in the pass
>Arbitrary rules about what can and can't be included

You know damn well JRPG shit is the exception. It's Sakurai's favorite.

Agumon. Don’t care what the other choice is.

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>Cutfags BTFO
>Patternfags BTFO
>Stevefags BTFO
Is Smash Ultimate the most based roster in vidya?

no.
youtube.com/watch?v=1TR8TtmD60A

Yes but as always >rulesfags

Crash as DLC5 makes perfect sense
>Major mascot in both regions
>Arguably the last "icon" missing from the roster (Doom is important to gaming, Doomguy isn't. I'd like him, but that's fact.)
>Has a recent resurgence in popularity due to remakes and is one of the most-selling franchises at the moment

Whilst he's certainly not a character that's been demanded like Banjo, I feel like he's very much warranted

>cutfags BTFO
What does circumcision have to do with this?

the prince and the prince

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What has crash provided to gaming? Nobody makes crash inspired platformers

Smash Bros Cutfags are those retards going OMG THEY'RE TOTALLY GOING TO CUT MARIO NEXT GAME JUST YOU WATCH! I CAN'T WAIT TO DRINK ZELDAFAG TEARS WHEN ZELDA IS OFF THE ROSTER NEXT GAME! BYE BYE SONIC! in every pre-launch threads, not mangled Jews.

Travis and Crash. Prince and Heihachi are deconfirmed due to being part of the Namco Roulette sadly.

I wanted Bewear or Melmetal as the Gen 7 rep, but I’v grown to like Incineroar.

KOS-MOS and Joe.

The Joke
United Airlines 93
Your head

>What has Crash provided to gaming
>He's the mascot of the PS1 era versus Mario and Sonic of the NES and Genesis days respectively (they remained mascots throughout but still)
>One of the first major 3D platformers
>TICK TOCK PLUMBER BOY

It's no different to Simon or Richter, they themselves didn't provide anything to gaming, since they're both classicvania characters, which people certainly don't make games of anymore, however they represent the series as a whole, including what that contributed to gaming (It's why Alucard was considered before being dropped as he didn't use the whip)

Oh shit, didn’t see Jibanyan at first. Him along with Agumon.

What has most of the roster provided for Smash?
Like Mario or Link obviously has provided for gaming, but what has nearly everyone else?

B I G I R O N
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Why's Banjo playable over Bomberman then?

because smash isn't a hall of fame.

give my lloyd and dante just for maximum animeswordsman posting
ryu, strider, crash, doomguy and phoenix wright are also acceptable

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What talk?

>Ryu/Ken
>Mega Man
>Sonic
>Pac-Man
Yes it is.

>no call of duty
get fucked not a video game hall of fame.

Holy shit is this garbage taste.

He’s referring to the link in Keep in mind Pete Hines confirmed that Bethesda had spoken with Nintendo about smash some time last year. It’s not as hard a confirm as some people say, but it makes you think.

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the only rule that exists is that the character has to originate from vidya. every other rule is made up bullshit.
FUCK RELEVENCYFAGS
FUCK FIRST PARTY ONLY FAGS
FUCK ANTI WESTERN FAGS
FUCK SALESFAGS
FUCK CUTFAGS
FUCK NIGGERS
AND FUCK JANNIES

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You can disagree with the developers if you want.

There's nothing actually stopping Minecraft steve from getting in though. He's a video game character from a popular game.

The only "rules" that actually seem to matter are "no side characters before main character" and "side characters should appear in multiple games" but the latter could be broken eventually maybe.

>Finish Aether Story around September
>Announce Richtofen for Smash DLC
I hate that I'd unironically adore this
>Stage is No Man's Land from Moon with the teleporter in the background teleporting in various boss monsters/Zombies
>Moveset of various wonder weapons from throughout the maps (Raygun, Thundergun, Ragnaroks, Wunderwaffe, etc.)
>EE songs added as music

Castlevania has spread many branches of influence, games that went on to influence others to this day. I can’t think of any popular games that took Crash’s gameplay as their main source of inspiration.

I don't care anymore. Tony Hawk Pro Skater had a COD character playable. Nintendo have gone too far. In 2026, we'll be discussing if 50 Cent should be playable.

What about “no company should get more than 1 rep because that would be a horrible buisness decision.”

by 2026 video game tech will be confiscated for spare parts.

I don't think anything means Shantae is getting in and i think its very unlikely, but just here to tell you that Spirits don't deconfirm jack shit.

if that rule is broken i hope it's with Sans, personally like him more than Frisk and he's more synonymous with Undertale than Frisk is.

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I don't see why that would matter.

As popular as Sans is I can't see it happening, his abilities are mostly meta narrative stuff you'd have to try way too hard to make something functional and true to the character.

>crash's influence is no different to castlevania
That'll be a W O A H from me dawg
Come back when there's an entire genre that owes half of its namesake to Crash

While technically not impossible it's really unlikely Nintendo would let Microsoft of all third parties get 2 out of the 5 DLC slots.
>side characters should appear in multiple games
Sheik

Just kill yourself you know damn well why Sheik is in the game.

Honestly he's more fitting as a boss

Nah, Omega Flowey or Asgore would be better bosses

so with rulefags btfo for all eternity. how are his chances?

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why are you so upset

They're literally pulling the same shit with Banjo too.

>Patternfags BTFO
the "one new-gen pokemon in each game" pattern has remained true for the entire series

It would matter because people at Nintendo have stated that one of the functions of dlc characters internally is to strengthen ties with other developers. Why would they give Microsoft 2 characters instead of making connections with an extra company.

Not that high for this game i'd say, seems unlikely that Square would get two reps.

It's why they put a gen 3 Pokemon in Melee, right?

gen 3 didn't exist when melee came out.

They already have 2 reps. Capcom and Konami have 3.

it really sucks because it feels so awkward with no gen 3 or 5 mon in the game.

Does anybody even know who Sans is anymore? He was sent down the same road as Shrek. He's nothing more than an ironic farce with the first four notes of Megalovania punctuating the swinging of his huge, blue slime dick and balls, a trash man who likes to choke girls and enslave his brother.

Ryu Hayabusa
Dark Souls Man

Poor wording on my part, i meant two newcomers in one game.

Reimu cracks me up because she makes autistic rosterfags fucking furious since she perfectly fits into all the dumb rules people come up with.

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Konami has two newcomers in one game. Mega Man/Ryu in 4, too.

Hes already a spirit, from a dead ip owned by shitty nu Squaresoft, would count as another Mario side character about the same as Waluigi, Ashley,Toad etc
despite all the problems he at least has some fan demand I guess also Samurai likes him so he isnt as obscure as people make him out to be like Mike Jones or some shit. maybe next time or if there is a spirit turned fighter DLC

I don’t think Doomguy will happen this game since it takes so long for demand to reach the home front. I think he’s the strongest third party contender for the next game though.

>faggot still thinks first party characters are admissible as evidence for acceptable third party characters

Genofags and others will be shrieking about how spirits don't deconfirm until they're underwater and the bubbles stop coming up.

Based kroolposter

Capcom you mean, they seem cooler with crossover stuff than Square, lok how little Square stuff there is in the base game, 1 character, 4 spirits which are just Cloud twice and Geno and Mallow sincethey still had the rights for their appearance from the mii costume in 4, and 1 stage with a laughable amount of music.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai doesn't want to deal with their stingyness again.
DQ is more on the Enix side i heard, and they're supposedly cooler about it.

Sans is on the same level as Reimu i feel, especially in Japan.

Pretty low I have to say, if only because his spirit battle feels too well-done.

Sakurai wasn't picking any of the DLC characters, Nintendo executives did. So all of the rules he mentioned in the past 3 years didn't matter

mad, bitch?

>Gets autism bear
>Starts gloating about it.

>banjofags get shat on for years upon years for wanting them in smash
>gets in
I will never not stop shitting on your faggots. Get fucked, I won.

All the characters Nintendo execs picked are videogame original characters.

Well, I mean...as far as Classic Mode and it's intensity goes, you could have Asgore as a boss for middling intensity, Omega Flowey for low intensity and Sans for high intensity, to represent pacifism, neutral and no mercy respectively.

No but every single character in Smash has had a game on Nintendo.

>banjofags get shat on for years upon years for wanting them in smash
>gets in
Petty shit, should only be focused on getting games faggot.

And they'll be pumping you full of putrid ursine semen until you finally exhaust yourself from all your impotent kicking and screaming and collapse. You lost. You are nothing before them.

But user, she is a videogame character, she wouldn't break the actual only rule. However, If she is added I can see all the board exploding with idiots that think she is an "anime character" and demanding goku, I sorta wish to see that scenario.

Banjo fans didn’t get shat on for years lol and have a fun time yelling at anonymous

My broken clock also gets very excited the two times a day it is correct.

Steve/Ashley/Geno/Isaacfags will return if there’s a FP2 or Smash 6

tfw no bear bf to fill me up with his hot load

First smash game buddy?

>must be from a video game series that has had at least one installment on a Nintendo console.
I would lower this to "the developers/studio has had games on nintendo consoles before"

someone post the user predicting the outcome of Reimu getting in smash

user, that's what I'm saying. Reimu is funny because she fits into literally every single rule I've seen rosterfags come up with.

It's the same thing with Minecraft Steve and why the uncanny valley model of him was made, they're both characters that make rosterfags irrationally angry because they don't have circlejerks in spite of fitting every single reason for a character to be in Smash.

She is a MUGEN tier character that would look out of place, like someone modded her into the game

This literally means nothing, though. You probably only associate her eith MUGRN in the first place because there's like a billion MUGEN edits using Hisotensoku sprites for some reason.

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that and the fact its a bunch of overpowered little anime girls facing off against almost everything in fiction. its anime tier like Miku or Saber despite not outright being literally Goku tier

finely-aged forced pasta