tinyBuild no longer will sell titles on GOG.com due to the fact that their games are torrented all over the Internet.
>We unfortunately would never be able to support a deluxe edition or a soundtrack because the second 1 person purchases it, it is available to upload anywhere on the internet.
>We have to be protective of our developers. We can't upload content and just hope for the internet to not steal it.
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>We do know [that DRM'd versions are available for pirating as well]. DRM is still safer in the end however. Especially for online based games. Requiring builds to be signed in through a platform in order to play.
steam cracks are more proliferate than GOG releases of the same game. devs are retarded
>Pirate leeches ruin everything again.
What new? Why you think no large studio makes PC exclusives anymore? As long piracy is a thing say goodbye to all good things.
I wanted Streets of Rogue but this just makes me want to pirate it.
Not giving those kikes $10 after reading this shit.
retard
English is the board language here. Speak it, motherfucker.
Also, I'm glad the 3DS, Ps3, X360, PS2, PS1, all never saw piracy on those systems. Thank GOD for consoles.
>developer saves costly licensing fee spent on a DRM (Denuvo for example)
>DRM'd games get cracked handily and torrents spread anyway
>"nooo GOG's anti-DRM stance is costing us money"
piracy is just an unfortunate side effect of digital media. having no drm is better though because it helps to salvage games that get nuked off the internet due to publisher issues. for example the pc version of second sight was removed from all digital distribution platforms including gog and the physical copy has long been out of print. some games cant be played without piracy and the existence of gog is great because it makes piracy easy in case this happens.
>tinyBuild
Who?
>piracy is just an unfortunate side effect of digital media.
I can honestly see Tinybuild's logic - GOG makes sense for older games, that have been out for a while, are fully patched and are, in essence, at their best "state", so people who haven't bought the game, yet - have a choice between DRM and a DRM-free version - however putting new releases on GOG and them updating them is the equivalent of giving pirates a handout.
Nice try at fake outrage OP.
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Unless they use newer version of Denuvo, games are still cracked, even before they're released.
reminder people were pirating tapes in 1976 and bill gates was sad
kinda retarded, if you have that kind of DLC on say steam, people can upload that just as fast once they've downloaded it.
The most retarded thing was the complains about soundtrack piracy. I don't really use Steam, but I don't think they have a DRM middleware for music.
>oh, I wonder who they ar-
>exclusively produce indie trash
>reddit.com
See how he's scrambling to apologize and is making promises left and right? That's called damage control.
who cares
Yeah controlling the damage his retarded CMs caused.
See the difference here is that every time a game is updated which, nowadays, happens very often, especially for early access games - the pirates have to gain access to the newest version, while a completely DRM-free game might as well be directly linked to tpb, as there's precisely no effort involved in distributing a GOG release.
>inb4 Epic Exclusivity
How can a iq50 monkey even make a game?
If you distribute music in any form people can record the stereo output while playing the music and thus get a DRM free copy either way. You can't protect music from piracy.
>cry about g2a
>now cry about gog
Not even surprised.
Those updates are always uploaded the within the same day anyway, retard.
>because the second 1 person purchases it, it is available to upload anywhere on the internet.
This is a huge slippery slope, and this still doesn't excuse the refusal to uploading DLC and soundtracks, since there will still be a good portion of people who will want to buy them.
You will NEVER be able to defeat piracy, no matter how many shady anti-tampering "protections" to do you force down into the anus of your games only in order to benefit no one. You will never convince other people to stop pirating games, which they pirate by the simple fact that IT'S FREE. Why would anyone pay when you get it for FREE? There will ALWAYS be a group that will use any single chance to bypass the payment requirement. Where is the proof that digital piracy harms the sales? How come I never see this?
Caring for combating digital piracy is useless and will never be worth of it. This goes for every single kind of creator with their digital products such as artists.
>tinyBuild
literally who?
pcgamingwiki.com
I didn't find any annoucement, just lists that mention it.
The community manager's (allegedly) false statements have absolutely zero bearing on the fact that tinyBuild-published games don't receive updates on GOG.
>especially for early access games
Well, they could release it DRM-free once the game had the proper release.
See how nowhere in the post does he say "tinyBuild no longer will sell titles on GOG.com" like the OP does? This is a clickbait thread.
>Indie trash game whining about piracy to justify its low sells.
>Those updates are always uploaded the within the same day anyway
No they aren't, for a couple of the most popular AAA games, maybe, but nobody's fucking rushing to crack the newest tinyBuild game update on day 1, you drooling mongoloid, which is precisely why there's a difference between DRM piracy and DRM-free piracy for them.
This. Pirates should be murdered.
>Hello Neighbour
Wasn't that a buggy, unfinished mess?
Yeah, but it was a decent sucess, so it got a sequel. Which is an Epic exclusive, unlike the original game.
what does putting pasta sauce on a cd prove?
how is this shit not fraud?
after looking at their gog pages I can't see anything that plainly states that they will not update their games on the website.
>fraud
Please name a single law that would force them to update their games.
Steamworks is barely even drm, it's easily cracked and valve doesn't give a fuck about piracy in the first place. If anything gog is less likely to be pirated because nobody cares enough to release it.
They are so fucking transparent.
How is a digital game getting pulled off a store any different from a physical game getting pulled off stores?
You're missing the point - the timeliness of these updates is an added value to buying a game versus pirating it.
>reminder that yandev gave tinybuild the boot because they challenged his spaghetti code and his fragile ego
>bu-but we have to be supportive of our developers! :(
This tweet is just PR speak for 'we want epic yen, so fuck you'
>sorry man there is nothing more i can tell you, ive said what ive had to say
Learn English before you develop fucking games
>tinyBuild
lol who cares?
>t-there isn't a law
if there isn't there should be bootlicker. We need to rape people like this. drag them through the streets and put their heads on a pike. progress can only come from violence.
in short I'm saying
GAMERS
RISE
>a physical game getting pulled off stores?
The already sold copies can be traded in the second market.
It's Discord.
>Steamworks is barely even drm, it's easily cracked
Even Valve says it.
>The Steam DRM wrapper by itself is not is not a anti-piracy solution. The Steam DRM wrapper protects against extremely casual piracy (i.e. copying all game files to another computer) and has some obfuscation, but it is easily removed by a motivated attacker.
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tinyBuild is mostly just a publisher, tho.
kek
Get this through your tiny brains: just because they pirate it does not mean they lost a sale.
You people sound as pathetic as the ad companies whining about adblockers. Pirates won't just buy your game because they can't pirate it lmao, they're pirates for a reason. At least you get a little minority that buys the shit they play later. For instance, 99% of my bought anime, manga, and videogames are all thanks to piracy.
that a copy was made.
I do not understand this at all.
From day one GOG was DRM free.
They still decided to sell their games on their
Why are they suddenly surprised?
ah, that must be why they call it copypasta
this is brain damage levels of low-iq reasoning. nothingburger by literal who indie subhumans.
the truth is no one wants to buy your dreck. if you are so sure of your amazing 10/10 game then throw denuvo on it, you cock sucking filthy subhumans. I never even heard of TinyTurds until today.
When I see shit like this I always like to remember that CD Projekt themselves are releasing a huge game like Cyberpunk on their own platform, which will make it easy as shit to pirate, yet I bet it will still sell like hotcakes (much like Witcher 3). It's almost like you have to make good games to make people want to buy your stuff even when it's easily available for free.
who
did someone forgot to say that retard from tb that steam releases are being pirated al the same? Unless you use denuvo, which isn't guarantee either
Because Tim Sweeney one day waved a wad of cash in their faces.
get fucked buycuck
>tinyBuild
Why should I care about this shit publisher?
GOGchad here, good riddance if true. Never had any interest in tinybuild games, but shaming based slavs for standing up to drm bullshit is kind of fucked up.
Literally who
>immediately samefagging to make the opposing side look severely autistic
Fuck off, retard.
...
>google tinyBuild
>GIANT LIST OF SHIT GAMES
>THE ONLY GOOD GAME THERE THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE, THEY PUBLISHED BUT PUT IT AMONG THE GAMES THEY MADE
I could've sworn TinyBuild uploaded a pirated version of No Time to Explain themselves though
>t. reading comprehension at a third grade level
At no point did anyone mention that games don't sell because they've been put on GOG.
>The already sold copies can be traded in the second market
but piracy is even better than second market
Everything he says is right though, if I was a developer I would in NO FUCKING WAY release my game on GoG. No matter how "consumer friendly" you are, consumers don't operate in the consensus on good faith, they operate in exploiting for their own gains. Nobody who advocates for free-DRM do it because they want to get rid of DRM, they want to do it to gain easy access to piracy. You just have to see the recent predicament GoG/CDPR is in right now: a few months back GoG had to let-go 10 workers because the store isn't making the revenues to maintain it. Consumers are too fucking stupid to place your trust on and you need to treat them like children, in fact like enemies where you are always one step ahead, preventing them from taking advantage of you, and looking out for your own best interest. DRM needs to stay, you just have to take a look at last year, shitters in this place were gleeing over the fact that GoD was a thing, and every game that was released on GoG was met with "why would I ever buy a game on GoG? I'm not a cuck, they made it easier for me to download it for free."
You're a clueless fucking console gamer.
If you weren't, you'd know a fancy Russian forum where clean Steam files get shared for pretty much everything. And then you can use one of the million generic Steam emus.
But I guess actually copying files over might be too hard for you.
>Pathologic 2
How did they snag that one?
Well Clustertruck and Pathologic 2 were pretty good
GOG just needs to add bullshit clauses into their contracts.
Abandoning a platform in favour of another should be a breach contract. Imagine if Microsoft said they're no longer updating or releasing future versions windows in America.
Damn, so this is the brain power of indie devs.
They didn't even make it, they published it.
>DRM needs to stay, you just have to take a look at last year, shitters in this place were gleeing over the fact that GoD was a thing, and every game that was released on GoG was met with "why would I ever buy a game on GoG? I'm not a cuck, they made it easier for me to download it for free."
Absolutely true.
I shop there just for the fact that I can keep the installers in case whatever shit happens to occur
>unfortunate
kill yourself
GoG version is literary worthless. Steam version at least give you some sort of bragging right to your friends.
>muh ownership
Both have neither.
Why stop there, why not just go full retard and put denuvo on all their games too?
CM's don't control what is put on GOG. they're for sucking customer dicks user.
He's just badly damage controlling, ironically what his CM's should be doing.
They didn't make the vast majority of games in their catalog, you retarded sperg. Go read up on what a publisher does.
>Pirates your game anyway
>bragging right to your friends.
You are a woman, please show tits or kill yourself.
>tinyBuild
literally who
>Steam version at least give you some sort of bragging right to your friends.
This is the average Steamtard. Reminder that Steam is just a faggy Facebook for gamers.
The argument goes that they don't want to put it on GoG because "the second 1 person purchases it, it is available to upload anywhere on the internet". I don't know what you interpret out of that other than the retard going "muh lost sales".
weird poorcuck lash but ok?
>why not just go full retard and put denuvo on all their games too
They'd still get cracked a week later, no need to overpay.
>bragging right to your friends
Lmao, imagine thinking that
kek
>tinybuild
literally WHO
don't @ me with these literal who money grubbing kikes
What are you going to do about it, friendless neet incels?
The worst thing is that soundtracks are absolutely DRM-free on Steam.
>bragging right to your friends
lmao you're fucking pathetic. Neck yourself.
They are a publishing company.
tl;dr
Fuck drm I do what I want whether you paid nuSecurom or not
because there's no one to fund it due to decentralized nature of PC you moron.
Funny how it's always the indie shovelware """"""""game designers"""""""" who are always the greediest shekel goblins in the industry
They """"""""""LOVE""""""""""" gaming and are so """"""""""PASSIONATE""""""""" about games but in the end all they really care about is shitting out the next pixelated stuck in the 90s low effort 2D garbage and charging gullible idiots $30s for the privilege
At least with GoG I can place my installer in an external hard drive, and have the means to exchange the files and installers. I would literally have my game FOREVER for the fucking rest of time. GoG offers something better than what CD's could do. I can transfer my game endlessly, and I own it by law.
>literally who
The only thing I know about them is that they published Pathologic 2 (which is a remake, but the retards at tinyBuild decided on that misleading name) with almost no marketing on their Twitter page or wherever else, instead opting for shilling their Hello Neighbor game.
Seethe harder gog-cuck. I would rather pirate than giving money for nothing.
piracy has not increased in % since the napster days in the late 90s you mongoloid goyim cattle.
the jewswine publishers and devs have brainwashed and reprogrammed you into unconditional, no-question asked comsumerbots with their admittedly very effective relentless crocodile tears crying. portraying themselves as the victims, spreading fake news through video game bloggers they have had in their pockets for the past two decades. meanwhile the video games industry makes more profits than the movie and music industry COMBINED.
>a fancy Russian forum
Stop replying to me you backpedaling moron.
You're basically paying so you can show your gamer cock to other people?
>Attention whore tries to act like he's above anyone
Now this is rich.
How am I backpedaling, you cuck?
It's open and in English, you just register and go. It's not my problem you only know IGG games or some crap like that.
Indie devs are the most entitle fucks in existence. Doesn't matter if it's Steam or Epic or GOG they'll always be greedy fuckheads.
>indie shovelware """"""""game designers"""""""" who are always the greediest shekel goblins in the industry
Remember those cunts at Tale of Tales of whatever the fuck, that made The Graveyard, The Path and Sunset and quit the industry when their latest game about commie shit failed to sell copies? It's always the """"""""passionate"""""" ones, as you say.
>meanwhile the video games industry makes more profits than the movie and music industry COMBINED
and sales profits are lower than ever while service fees and mtx are the big earners.
>pic
lmao, that backfired spectacularly.
Who ?
>bragging right to your friends
usung my mandatory ''kek'' reply for a funny cartoon for furries
>not knowing about rin
Fuck off newfag
Come on Denuvo, make your shit uncrackable so we can cuck piratefags and then we can make the hobby better by getting rid of poorfags and I don't ever have to worry about the future games I want to make getting stolen by them. Put your faith in Denuvo.
They were clearly talking about additional content along the lines of soundtracks, not games themselves.
"Indie devs" sounds terrible. Just make good games and people will buy them.
Sure is summer in here
What's the alternative then? Bonus materials on Steam are pirated all the same.
Kill yourself.
C O P E
Gaming, even single player is social activity now.
tinyBuild is just a publisher
>meanwhile the video games industry makes more profits than the movie and music industry COMBINED.
>good games
People will always find ways to meticulously make your game look bad, and give them reasons to pirate it. There will never be a good game according to piratefags.
>still going
I'm fluent in Russian and have been pirating shit since the early 00s, yet that has nothing to do with your inability to comprehend that DRM-free piracy is not equivalent to DRM piracy, even in the cases where new updates get distributed quickly.
Thanks Valve for saving PC gaming.
>tinyBuild
... who?
Piratefag here, I do buy "good" games.
Not if you can't download it because of my heavy DRM. Check mate piratefags. DRM wins!
>and sales profits are lower than ever
cool fairy tale, Shlomo Rubinberg
>There will never be a good game according to piratefags
That's not the point he was making. ALL games will be pirated, but if you make a good game, word of mouth will lead people to buying it instead. Only fags that made shitty products which don't sell cry about "muh pirates", when every other dev rakes in the cash.
And "retard" isn't the same thing as "idiot". Yet you're both.
Lol I wouldn't give a fuck if every company would stop making video games today. There's so fucking many games already that I'll never be able to finish half of the good ones. Best of all, they are all free
>Steam version at least give you some sort of bragging right to your friends.
And here you have it, the clearest example of the kind of tranny degenerates Gaben has encouraged to use Steam as if it were their alternative /d/-tier Facebook. Die.
Steam doesn't even drm/steamworks that sort of stuff (pdf artbooks, osts in mp3 or flac)
Infact no game I've ever bought has drm'd the bonus shit
Sure you do, I bet you don't even own a single GoG game nigger.
seethe, I will pirate it anyways
Weak.
Who?
>>because they challenged his spaghetti code and his fragile ego
source: your ass
there just wasn't enough time. you want to hate eva so much you fucking make stuff up about him, how pathetic.
Gaming is the ultimate poorfag hobby, you imbecile. You would know this, if you weren't a lifeless loser.
Yea Forums is retarded but your retardness knows no bounds nigger.
I don't have that many in gog, but I do have some desu
>future games
nigga, current games won't have no future with shit like d*n*vo
vg247.com
literally who?
>tinyBuild
>The company responsible for managing to fuck up graveyard keeper
Steam releases always get released faster then GOG equivalent but you would know that if you weren't a LARPing faggot
You can't put DRM on digital art and a soundtrack, the are retards
Grew up on a forum with the guy that started tinybuild, used to play his flash games
Makes me smile every time I hear about the company
Hi smelly
It's hard to feel dumb for buying games I like, when the people saying it spend money on things like sports, pornography, shoes, hats, tattoos, drugs etc.
>Unironically praising denuvo
Nice try shlomo goldsberg
intellectual property is cancer
only stallman's teachings will save you from this hell, Yea Forums
audio-video.gnu.org
182 games right now on GOG.com, 5 in Zoom Platform, 16 on DotEmu, 9 on GamersGate and God knows how much on Humble Bundle.
>shoes, hats
And if DRM gets better you will NEVER play the game, and you will be forced to buy it. DRM and being anti-consumer-friendly wins again :) Developers get their dosh, and people are enticed to buy it if they want to play their stuff.
DENUVO YES
NO DRM IS CANCER
They really don't understand how piracy works. Piracy isn't lost sale because that person won't ever buy your game. It can be the best game in the world, buying games isn't an option for that person, be it because they don't have money or they don't want to spend money. By putting any sort of DRM you are just hurting the game performance for people who do buy the game, since pirates just remove it.
If anything piracy helps long term sales because it's possible that a pirate will buy a game he likes on the future. People who buy games buy games and people who pirate will pirate. You cannot forcefully turn a pirate into a consumer.
>And if DRM gets better you will NEVER play the game
The only way to make uncrackable DRM is to introduce always-online checks, and even then people will make custom servers or whatever else. Perfect unbreakable DRM will never exist, as long as people want free shit and/or the challenge of being able to bypass a hard protection.
Speaking of Hollow Knight.
I'm still fucking laughing at the fact that indie devs are mad that HK completely devalued all their five hour shitfests.
stop ruining my comfy autistic thread, voice of reason!
>Pirates your game anyway
video games are over
pack it up boys
When was the last time someone cracked Denuvo?
who?
thanks for the laugh you retarded fuck
So one of their Community Managers on discord said that they didn't like, and everyone misinterpreted as "they must be leaving gog"?
>treat your customers like shit
>WOW WHY IS EVERYONE PIRATING MY GAME WHILE BUYING OTHER PEOPLE'S GAMES
I honestly don't give a fuck.
I hope the industry dies.
So is tech companies charging a premium that lasts a year and not dying of polio fucko
Same, but the services just keep making money.
>When was the last time someone cracked Denuvo?
CODEX rolled out a bunch of fresh Denuvo releases literally a week or two ago.
This. First it was Steam now its GoG.
MARK MY FUCKING WORDS. The first issue Epic created then went after was the revenue share and their target was Steam. Now it will be GoG and Piracy and they will have the people they buy out rave about piracy concerns.
>The only way to make uncrackable DRM is to introduce always-online checks, and even then people will make custom servers or whatever else. Perfect unbreakable DRM will never exist
Stadia would like to have a word with you. Once streaming games become popular, consumers being forced to log in a master server to play their games, and developers/publishers see the benefit of having their game locked within a server and be a distance away from piratefags, it will be the fucking end of piratefags. Hope you are ready to absolute suck the ever-living dick out of GoG, cause DRM is WINNING BOYO! Fuck piratefags.
I can assure you that's not true for many people. I know plenty of fags that will pirate even if a game is on sale for 5-10 euro, just because they have the option and they're jews. But I agree, ruining it for paying customers is no solution.
>once streaming games become popular
He's still not wrong. Unbreakable drm will never exist because streaming games will never become popular.
That's what I said. Even if the game is good AND cheap, they will pirate it. Buying is not an option for some people, because of money.
hi google shills
Based Cherries
probably because Ice-Pick Lodge has been close to bankruptcy and quite literally raised from the dead
True, Stadia may be able to combat piracy (provided we live in a perfect world where Google doesn't abandon all its projects after a year or two, and this is not a perfect world). but at that point might as well end the industry altogether - streaming fucking videogames? I'd rather have nothing.
The gaming industry you know, will die.
The gaming industry, will not.
Normfags will never stop playing. NEETincles are no longer in the equation.
Stadia will success if they can deliver console-like experience aka sub 24-fps with pretty picture.
>reading comprehension of a fried chicken that was into anime
>tinyBuild
Lol I'm supposed to be mad about those ""game"" developers leaving?
But that is not what I am saying, lol. They don't lack the money. They choose not to spend the money on principle. They aren't poor. They just PREFER to pirate if it's available to save the money, which is a rational choice.
>Pirates: REEE SUPPORT YOUR DRM FREE GAMES
>devs: Stop pirating them then
>Pirates: NOO BUT YOU SHOULD STILL GET SALES LOL
>Devs add drm
>Pirates: REEE IM NOT SUPPORTING THIS GAME BECAUSE DRM XD I HAVE STANDARDS
big ooferooni there lads
in a perfect world google wouldn't exist
The crying dev did.
>Octopath Traveler, Total War Three Kingdoms, MK11, uncracked for weeks
pirates on suicide watch
>my games are terribly selling
>could it be that my games are FUCKING SHIT?
>no, it's the pirates' fault!
Haha.
literally who
They openly said that they don't update games because of they don't like the GOG builds distributed all over the net.
Neither with soundtracks, despite the fact that are completely DRM-free on Steam too.
The CM is obviously mentally impaired.
Based as fuck.
EPIC isn't trying to end Steam's "monopoly"
it's trying to become a monopoly
>tinybuild
0 of value was lost
>people ITT unironically blast GOG and suck greedy gamedev cocks and apologize for the only game platform that lets you own your games
gee
To be fair, this statement is 4 days old and the founder rectified.
>literal WHO accusing piracy because they have bad sales
OOF
>or they don't want to spend money.
Dude. Read.
Fuck I laughed, just shoot me.
Stadia as is will fucking fail you shilling shitposters. Not only are you required to pay a monthly fee FOREVER, you are also expected to buy the games at whatever the fuck google wants to sell them for while also bringing an objective worse experience for the consumer due to latency. Fuck off with this shit, it's still not ready and the speed of light will never make it feasible.
But Steam is the only place I can be an attention whore with other fellow gamers. GOG has it too, but no one uses it.
It's almost as if that's because Steam usually gets game and update releases first, you unbelievable retard.
>bragging right to your friends.
How can you live with yourself
Thanks, now i will exclusively pirate games published by tinyshit
>bragging rights for spending money
Consumerist cuck.
these are the same guys who complained that g2a cost them like half a million dollars in credit card chargebacks.
I don't like piracy (in most cases) or g2a, but tinybuild just seems like a scummy bunch of fucks.
its impressive how wrong they are about everything
how's your hrt going?
Fuck I see it.
>I'm still fucking laughing at the fact that indie devs are mad that HK completely devalued all their five hour shitfests.
what do you mean by this exactly? did they create a buyers market in indie games??
Can anyone name a single game that TinyBuild has made?
They made a flash game a long ass time ago called "No Time To Explain" and then they published "Hello Neighbor."
No wonder people pirate their games if thats the case, because theyre mediocre garbage.
More like Stadead-on-arrival
READ WHAT. YOUR ENTIRE POINT IS
>IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND THEY WANT IT THEY WILL BUY IT
>IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THEY CAN'T BUY IT AND WOULDN'T HAVE ANYWAY
And this is just fucking WRONG. There are plenty of people that might spend 60 euro on a game, but won't, because they can pirating. They aren't just pirating is because they can't afford it.
>tinyBuild
Literally who?
Pathologic 2, which was crowdfunded.
>Can anyone name a single game that TinyBuild has made?
Highly unlikely, seeing how they don't make games.
true, if you cant affort a game, get a job or stop playing video games because you dont deserve it, fucking poor ass trailer trash game stealing nigger faggots
>tinybuild
can you give some examples of talentless hacks seething?
post stats on who pirates for what reasons
oh right you can't and this whole argument is just pointless jerking off
CanI buy koikatsu in english with no drm?
speedrunners and clustertruck are the only good ones on that list and i had pirated versions of both before i bought them
>not having DRM makes a game impossible to support
wot
Basically the logic is that the HK devs made Hollow Knight too cheap with too much content.
And now ever since it released players see a $20+ indie game and say "hey man why the fuck is this not even ten hours long? fucking hollow knight was like fifteen bucks and like twenty hours or some shit. lazy fucking developers". And this doesn't just apply to games. In any creative endeavor if someone makes a relatively quality product but asks for far cheaper than all their other competitors, the other artists get mad that this one dude is fucking up customer expectations of other products.
There was some indie dev who bitched on the HK discord around late last year.
>has a gog version up
>still has incredibly good sales
Maybe people buy games that aren't bad?
>Basically the logic is that the HK devs made Hollow Knight too cheap with too much content.
Well, it was crowdfunded. It's not like they had to worry too much about covering expenses.
They can't be BTFO if Tinybuild has only made maybe one or two games that are worth mentioning. Be real with yourself, they're only known as those faggots who were retarded enough to try and help with Yandere Simulator, but got chased off by Alex's temper tantrums.
>get utterly outclassed by competitor
>bitch about it
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF INDIE SHITTERS
>Stadia would like to have a word with you. Once streaming games become popular
Nigger the last time I was in Canada I couldn't stop laughing at the 3rd world internet they have. I live in fucking Asia and unlimited high-speed broadband is literally the standard here, I don't think you can even buy capped internet here. I heard American internet is in the same sorry state as Canada. How is Stadia going to manage it's main target audience not being able to use it?
>cheevo whores
Holy shit, I thought you all died out.
Imagine actually defending corporations. lol
Emulation is a beautiful thing. Instead of trying so hard to kill it, they should embrace it and release virtual consoles for computers. Having up to the previous generation console should be completely fine and a big way to earn money from gullible consumers buying the same game for the 6th time in a row.
>Yea Forums - The Vidya
Are there other versions?
I think you're in the wrong thread.
Former piratefag here, I buy plenty of games nowadays. A lot of games I have on GOG are even titles I finished by pirating back in the day and I just bought them much more recently despite not really intending to play them again.
This.
I worked at GOG for 3 years and believe me, they do not give a single fuck about you assholes. It's ALL about profit and tracking your usage habits in that shit fucking store.
Never buy from them, never buy from anyone. Pirating is the only way.
Same with the chad Terraria devs, when they told Epic to fuck off all the indie devs came on their twitter and started complaining about them.
>tracking your usage habits
How can they do it if I don't use Galaxy?
>an objective worse experience for the consumer due to latency
Also due to significantly diminished picture quality, let us not forget that.
because he doesn't work for cd projekt red.
>It's ALL about profit and tracking your usage habits in that shit fucking store.
You can't track my habits if there is no DRM, you cuck.
Cute girl
Cute idea
>Publishes and develops the equivalent of slightly higher quality flash games.
>We have low sales numbers! Clearly pirates are the problem! DRM will stop this!
>Even less people purchase their games.
And nothing of value was lost.
Shit is clickbaiting, game was just released in Japan day before Global launch
t.used proxy to play it same way on steam
The website itself tracks you, fucking idiots. Analytics all up in that shit. Fools.
>hurrr cuck
Grow up.
>I worked at GOG
lost me there, shitter
>The website itself tracks you
Wow, so stuff literally any webpage these days does? Imagine my surprise.
Suck my dick, faggot.
Dilate, Seething, Have sex, Cuck
ISPs are still notoriously shitty in the US. Comcast has a 1tb monthly limit (yes, that includes their "unlimited plan"). If you go over 1tb they charge you $10 per 50gb. Not to mention that they've lobbied against Google Fiber so that they can have the monopoly on fiber networks and charge out the ass for them. Streaming will never take off in the US because it consumes a large amount of bandwidth. The US is a corporate hellhole.
neck yourself, stupid nigger
>without the hassle of DRM
????
just tell Steam to run at startup?
>ctrl+f literally who
>8 results
>LOL everyone tracks you deeze days LOLOL how cum you dont like it fucking nigger cuck haha dilate haha
the absolute state of Yea Forums.
Where's your crack of Octopath?
>t.ranny
city just needs to grab pitchforks and rile up the comcast's local office. They're literally standing on the way of community's will to fund its QoL improvement out of pure greed.
From the thumbnail always look like Denuvo Man is holding a razor.
>Are there other versions?
Like what? New text? I'm not gonna make a version for each board, do it yourself. I don't remember what font I used though. Probably Impact?
Dude shut the fuck up, it's independence week, you're supposed to be celebrating USA, land of the free and home of the brave YEEHAW
>acting like a dumbfuck retard on purpose
fuck outta here
Does anyone actually shill for stadia? What would they even get paid in, a free account that doesn't work? Does anyone even remember Gamefly streaming?
Sorry user, politicians care more about fundraising for their next election rather than doing their jobs.
Chill, user. I meant board versions but looking at your answer means there aren't. Carry on
hrurhruhrururruhrurrrr ahurrrr durrrr memesssss trump le evil orange memeeee ecuck dilateeee
There. I speak more at your level now. Fucking retard.
>DenuvoIsFinished
Kek. Thanks.
>merely pretending
fuck off, retard
>pic
Naisu
underrated post
Where do I find such a wonderful thing?
Gave me a sensible chuckle as well.
How the fuck do you not know
>we can't upload content and just hope the internet to not steal it
THAT'S LITERALLY HOW THE FUCKING PLATFORM FUNCTIONS YOU TROGLODYTE. IT'S AN INFORMATION NETWORK. AT SOME POINT, SOMEONE WILL CRACK IT AND THE PIRACY OF THE IP WILL COMMENCE.
The retardation is staggering.
Litteral who. I doubt anyone could tell a game developped by, or even published by, tinyBuild without looking it up on Wikipedia. And even after that, you'll see it's just a bunch of fucking unknown game nobody ever played. I doubt even pirates would bother pirating one of them.
how can I watch this in vim?
copying =/= stealing
fuckin braindead baboon
lost sales are theft
>You know people can pirate your DRM versions right
>We do know that, but it's still safer
What sort of low IQ does this developer have?
>sold a game (Punch Club) in small batches, refused to put it on steam proper until someone streamed the game from start to finish
>intentionally released Hello Neighbour in the unplayable state it was in to try and cash in on the lets play crowd
>takes their games off platforms because they think DRM on indie games is good
>"why are our games pirated and bought on G2A?"
I legitimately cannot wait for them to go bankrupt and for the few studios they have worth a shit to be picked up by Devolver
>People will always find ways to meticulously make your game look bad, and give them reasons to pirate it.
Only those games i don't want to buy.
While i still can buy later completed pirated games if i like it, because why not.
While I can understand their point, it really depends on how relevant they are. Consider Darkwood, the own dev released a cracked version. With almost 4k reviews on Steam it sold like 240k copies. That's pretty good for a literal who indie. I would argue in this case that piracy actually gave Darkwood more visibility. However it's important to also notice that it isn't an expensive game, I'm not sure it would work depending on the price.
not every pirated copy is a lost sale
its potentially a lost sale, not an absolute lost sale
obviously you're too much of a mouthbreathing retard to understand
Imagine becoming a video game developer, in this day and age. What a pathetic lifestyle.
>Thinking about buying a game then not makes one a thief.
Yeah, but he complained about a fucking soundtrack. There's no game store that puts DRM on the extra stuff, not even Steam does it. Once you download it, you can distribute it. There's no excuse for the missing soundtrack DLC and even the founder knows it.
>Making all of that work offline means designing local systems which most smaller teams don't have the capacity to do. This doesn't explain DLC/OST missing though -- it's something we're in the process of fixing starting with Party Hard.
>he creates a thread when their response is up on the same fucking subreddit
I mean, Yea Forums is dumber than reddit at this point and will fall for it.
>we will fuck over our customers, that wil teach pirates a lesson
reminder to pirate all tinybuild games or buy them from g2a
I didn't know about that, but as far as soundtrack DLC goes isn't it usually because those profits belong to the composer(s)?
No. Their soundtracks are made in a work for hire basis, like the average publisher and Amanita Design. That's why they sell it by themselves on Steam.
>actually defending yandev
He literally kicked them out because his code was so fucked up they would have to rework it from the ground up for several months, during which he couldnt spit out any new meme 'updates' to shill his garbage game. Worse, the rework would use a new engine his dumb ass didnt know about and he couldnt accept that. He even said so himself
Get back to work Eva, you useless spic
lmao cry more
>I like it when companies abuse customers
have sex
>a few months back GoG had to let-go 10 workers because the store isn't making the revenues to maintain it
>last year they had record profits and redirected most of GoG's money to advertise and support the game they were making
That doesn't add up. They are getting record sales but had to let 10 people go due to....lack of sales? Stop believing click-bait articles jackass.
How many of those pirates would have bought the game?
For example I was going to pirate Octopath Traveler, but it's not cracked yet. Am I going to pay $50 for a game that got mediocre reception? No. The devs lose nothing from what I'm doing.
>Why yes, I do support DENUVO, Steam, and anti-consumer practices for self preservation and to deny piratefags their games. How can you tell? Fuck gog.
not the same, imagine doing that but to all gog copies
Fucking based.
And what's the ratio a year later?
What's the ratio 5 years later?
Day 1 Sales count for shit on small releases with no marketing.
who
>Won't someone please think of the corporations?!
I don't give a fuck.
Indie devs who release their own cracked versions are typically based like the Terraria dev
And you are why we need Denuvo, Stadia, and heavy DRM. Fucking based Denuvo, thank you for showing your support to the cause piratefag. We need to protect our games.
Yes, videogames make more money through sales and in-game purchases than movies make with ticket sales, movie sales, and streaming through shit like Netflix, and music makes through album sales, licensing to radio stations, song sales through iTunes and the like, and concerts. I notice that picture points out sales have increased every year.
Yet the picture shows sales profits increasing every single year?
>Do a study
>Make a different controled parameter
>Insert "muh feelings"
Yeah this proves nothing.
Minus the preachyness factor, pirated games having dumb details that fuck up players without realizing it's because of a pirated copy is my second favorite form of anti-piracy protection. Sadly the best version is no longer possible.
Because people keep saying 'how the fuck do you not know' whenever I ask.
why would anyone buy a shit game with that amount of DRM when there is already more good games that you could play in your lifetime?
>Sadly the best version is no longer possible.
Which was?
>(You)
this. tinycucks are sure retarded nigger monkeys
>developers are still afraid of piracy
welp, time to pirate everything on Epic
tinyBuild never used Denuvo AFAIK, tho.
This is why Epic will win while Steam and GOG will die.
Tim knows that none of you matter.
That's really dumb. In most cases, it's easier to find games and their updates for the steam version than it is for the gog version.
What are they going to do? Throw it up on steam and watch it be pirated again? Buy Denuvo which costs hundreds of thousands only to watch it be cracked?
>Why yes, I do pirate every single title out there and later give money to the ones I truly loved, how could you tell? Bless peer-to-peer filesharing
Imagine growing old enough to see a world where zoomers start screeching in full support and advocation for anticonsumerism, DENUVO, more personal restrictions, and want more of it. What the fuck, I'm just 30 and already I'm feeling disappointment in the future generation. What's next? Proconsumerism is terrorism?
Who?
How will Tim win without customers? No, Fortnite kids don't count.
Shit like MGS1 where there would be information on the physical game box or instruction manual that you would need to progress. Not only was it a solid anti-piracy measure, it also led to lateral thinking scenarios which was especially fun in point and click adventure games.
Regrettably, thanks to the internet that sort of thing is no longer effective as anti-piracy since you can just look up the answers without ever actually needing to see the instruction manual/back of the box.
Even if Epic wins, it will only prove that Gaben was right.
There are people who hate physical copies and refunds because they make impossible good Steam sales.
I'm going to be extremely pissed off if this means that the GOG version of Pathologic 2 won't get DLC that steam does. This is such a stupid backflip that it guarantees that I'm going to pirate any future games tinybuild releases that aren't on GOG.
Times up pirate nigger. Stadia is going to get popular, GoG is going to die, and Denuvo is going to be king moving the industry forward.
uh oh
>DenuvoIsFinished
>Stadia
lmao
guess who's games I won't be buying from now on.
Are they retarded or they are payed to be retarded.
Stadia's an experiment, just like Google Glass. Remember Google Glass? Yeah neither does anyone else.
It's really interesting how most GoGtards behave like if they were members of a cult
I see it everyday in these chans. face it, the games industry has groomed them to think this way.
Didn't these guys put their game "No Time To Explain" on The Pirate Bay themselves?
Every game that I've pirated and actually liked I have bought, besides swat 4 because I keep forgetting.
>Pirates
>FUCK DENUVO DAY 1 PIRATE
>Pirates
>LMAO NO DRM? DAY 1 PIRATE
You can't win with pirates. They are the welfare whores of the gaming industry. They have a mental illness and nothing will fix it.
You are a fucking moron, every website has google shit tracking you, block the scripts moron.
>Denuvo
>Day 1 Pirate
Unless there was a Denuvo-less version available to the public, those things just don't happen.
In other news, user can't stop shitposting and shilling to save its life.
>Yea Forums
>VIDEO GAMES ARE GOOD
>Yea Forums
>VIDEO GAMES ARE SHIT
You can't win with autists
it's been like this for 10 years retard
Your point being?
>say goodbye to companies that only cares about money
good
I don't know
Aight.
What I was trying to say was that maybe, just maybe, "Pirates" and "Yea Forums" isn't actually single entity but people with different tastes and morals.
There are people who pirate everything they can get their hands on and people who buy the game after playing it if they liked it. and anything in between.
There's also different people who browse Yea Forums who have shit tastes and people who don't play video games it's either or
>Hello Neighbor
The way that game was handled was the work of Satan. Every update was a stupid arg or something nonsensical with glitches never fixed or new ones added to the pile. They still promote this game during special event and con for some god forsaken reason.
this is fucking bullshit, i refuse to believe that they didn't teach the fucking community manager to not spew their stupid opinion, it is damage control.