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Alexander Ramirez
Dylan Bennett
Jayden Allen
Why is umineko so much worse than higurashi?
Matthew Sullivan
Witches = real
Battler = big gay baby
Nicholas Rodriguez
It's impossible to disprove magic and wiches.
Devil's proof.
David Lopez
Carson James
You don’t need to disprove witches to deny them.
Caleb Smith
I started reading higu and its really awful so far, nothing but autistic loli screeching
fuck rena
highly doubt this lolicon game will surpass kinomineko
Brandon Mitchell
Same boat. I think it's the same one or two shitposters everytime spouting this bs.
The slice of life is unfunny as fuck and prime examples of "japanese humour" and the story while it gets good in the tense moments has so many plotholes. Umichads stay winning.
Jaxson Walker
Rena is not a loli
And you really don't know a thing if you think that higurashi is lolicon
Cameron Harris
They have the annoying high pitched loli voices, Rena repeats words like an autist, and has nothing redeeming about her, slso has the body of a 12 year old
Benjamin Johnson
It's part of her character, it's explained in the 6th tome why she is like that. And she clearly is around 14-15 yo.
Higurashi has originally no dubbing, it's just an option in the playstation patch. You can and should play without it since it just messes with the sound design.
Joseph Butler
>Zen zen dameda
Wrong, Battler. The correct word is MUDA
Isaiah Moore
>she stops being shit in ch6 bro! Its a part of her character!
No. Umineko was a tiny bit boring at the start of ep 1,2, but not unbearably bad and I thought the characters were tolerable or even good (battler) right off the bat
Tyler Walker
...
Austin Richardson
Yes.
Umineko was boring until tea party 7. Okay, It's fun to watch witches trolling humans. Everything else is shit. And the culprit is the most disappointing thing I ever read.
Eli Reyes
Yeah, sure, retard.
I've already decided to never listen to a Higurashi niggers opinion again. Refunding this shit even if it was just $1.50
Grayson Cook
I swear all people who dislike Umineko give the dumbest and reductive reasons possible.
Ayden Russell
I also just downloaded higurashi. I got the voice patch but don't know how to install it. Can anyone here inform me on how to install the voice patch for Higurashi?
Jayden Evans
The voice patch is shit.
And I don't recommend the steam version. The sprites are fines (I still prefer the original ones for some characters), but they changed some musics 3 month ago and it completely ruined the whole "mystery/creepy" aspect of the sound design. I don't know if it's possible with some manipulation to revert back to the original musics. I suppose it's possible but I didn't try.
Nolan Allen
I don't have the steam version. Got a different version I pirated. I would like to try out the voices though to at least hear and see. If you know how it'd be appreciated.
Lincoln Rodriguez
They're retarded enough to read a 100 hour VN despite clearly disliking it early enough to drop it
Josiah Young
>not enjoying both Umineko and Higurashi
I am truly feel sad for you guys.
Cameron Turner
I wish I could, man. Higurashi is just too nerve racking with the underage cast.
I need to fill the Umineko void bros. Recommendations? Already played ace attorney and danganronpa before umi
Owen Diaz
This, if you have read Umineko without knowing Higurashi you have unironically ruined like 30% of the enjoyment.
Also both of the VNs are different, do not expect Higurashi when you go into Umineko and do not expect Umineko when you go into Higurashi, one is very chuuni and one is more realistic.
Noah Anderson
>almost 200 tracks in the ost
>not a single bad song
How did they do it?
Isaac Ward
Imagine being this much of a retard, god I fucking hate Umineko-only faggots.
Jeremiah Diaz
seething
Mason Rogers
Yeah I'm seething, something wrong with that?
Bentley Garcia
To be specific the patch has several folders and a tips.json file.
Andrew Cooper
post more
Jack Anderson
This was bad.
James Lewis
>uminekotrannies can't appreciate prime friendship kino
of course
Alexander Carter
Just type higurashi voice patch in your search engine.
Carson Myers
Fight me faggot.
Hudson Wright
ha don't pay attention, I'm stupid, you already has it.
Kayden Roberts
Install the 07th mod I guess, but Higurashi is better without voices.
Jaxon Williams
Yeah I have it. Just not sure how to install it and the installation guide page seems to be dead.
That's the mod I have.
Samuel Jenkins
Imagine you sang that shit in your highschool. Jessica deserved all the shit she had to endure just for that.
Sebastian Long
I'd fuck Yasu and Lion
Jaxon Hernandez
Same for Umineko actually. The voices just ruin the sound design of higurashi and the excellent musics of umineko .
Juan Price
Imagine if Umineko released today, everyone would've hated it because of the forced tranny shit.
Jeremiah Harris
It didn't feel forced and felt more like a fuck you to kinzo from fate
Cant impregnate and rape a male beato
Robert Jenkins
He'd still try though, maybe a miracle is going to happen.
Hudson Young
kek
Nicholas Robinson
Well Anons, how many coins did you get on your first run? I got like 8.
Josiah Brown
I dunno.
What parts of Umineko did you like?
Chase Perez
Overrated shit thread?
Joseph Peterson
I was more investment in the mystery of Higurashi, but I feel like the final chapters are weaker. While Umineko has terribly dull parts from time to time, when the mystery of Higurashi is solved itncompletely turns into an action story about the power of friendship. Umineko at least gives more insight on the characters even after turning into magical beings fighting each other.
Eli Sanchez
I got all of them by save/loading for the achievement. But probably only solved about 3 riddles on my own. I'm dumb.
Jacob Barnes
I wish the Umineko VN would've at least shown how every twilight was made, this fight was cool as fuck though especially the OST.
Julian Edwards
>even though nanjo helped yasu in almost every chapter he still didn't got a witch counter-part
what a bitch
William Bell
How'd he help her again? Fake autopsy?
Josiah Edwards
I got most of them legit but I did save and reload to get them all because I wanted to see what would happened.
I had no idea what I was doing with bern's game though besides knowing that one of the kids had to be in on it
Leo White
Isaac Thomas
yeah, he'd say that characters are dead when they aren't and also lie for her ocasionally
Asher Taylor
Higanbana of course
Nathan Lopez
What kind of name is Battler?
Isaiah Garcia
What happens? Do you get a Battler pin-up poster or whatever that was?
Gabriel Long
I formed an entire theory around nanjo lying and one of the first 6 victims except genji being dead. But it got shot down hard with nanjo confirmed to be trustworthy kek.
I solved it after a few hints though, the moment they said a kid had to be in on it i figured "hey, from my previous theory that the culprit faked their death in the first tw i'll pick families" chose battler's family and waddyaknow i got it
Benjamin Wood
I'm pretty sure that at first everyone thought that Nanjo is lying.
Xavier Allen
because you're a goat
Andrew Jackson
>Tranny witch tries to mindfuck Battler
Am I getting this right
Jack Anderson
the fact that the game turns into return of the jedi in the last chapter is stupid, but in some ways i felt at least like a happy ending after 7 chapters of super despair was appropriate.
there was also a bonus chapter for the PS2 version called
Miotsukushi-hen which is basically just a rewrite of the 8th chapter that ends on a much more depressing note. not translated of course
Ryan Allen
Maybe Marbas/Barbas?
en.wikipedia.org
Joseph Cox
>Trap that fell in love with Battler during their childhood while discussing murder mystery books wants to make him remember "her" while discussing the mystery of his families death
Angel Perry
Say it in red. You can't, can you? Saaaaaayyyyyyy itttttt
Brayden Anderson
Sounds like Chaos;Child, best friend of the protagonist that was created out of his mind kills his friends so that he gets to enjoy the thrill of discovering murders.
Carson Cooper
>Rena repeats words like an autist, and has nothing redeeming about her, slso has the body of a 12 year old
Angel White
Lads, one month to go.
Connor Edwards
Yasu's killings are faked, much like battler's in chspter 6 until erika offs them
Luke Diaz
Still, both of them do shitty things for their "lover".
Lucas Clark
Is it going to be another fantasy game?
Tyler Cruz
Post Natsuhi lewds
Ethan Gray
>only CG in Higurashi is Rena crying her eyes out after confessing a murder to her friends
>only CG in Umineko is Jessica cosplaying a 2hu character
Jaxson Perry
Isn't there a CG of Shion laughing her ass off while on the phone with Keiichi that appears for like a second?
Nathan Gomez
the setting itself is fantasy
Zachary Lopez
I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone likes umineko, it's legitimately one of the dumbest works of fiction I've ever read. The only good thing about it is the outstanding OST.
Tyler Rivera
Don't use the voice patch if you don't like the voices
Brayden Powell
Kinzo gives Ange a Beatrice doll when she goes to sleep.
You don't actually get to see it though so its pretty lame.
Jack Hughes
IIRC It's just a picture of two eyes in what is arguably a jump scare.
Juan Lee
You didn't read it, did you?
Daniel Johnson
Always bet on the jews, i'm thinkin they're taking this one home
Nathan Sullivan
Why would I dislike something I didn't read?
Nathan Barnes
Because you would be dumb as a brick if you read 120 hours of a novel you didn't like.
Jordan Phillips
I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the first half, but chiru onwards completely ruined it for me. The revelations are so retarded it kills the entire VN.
Angel Lee
The killer twist is pretty bullshit, but if you suspend your disbelief it makes sense. The rest of the revelations are great and only serve thematically to the story so I am not sure what were you expecting.
Hunter Peterson
reminder that the higurashi game part was better since it had more soul, the umineko one was thrown out randomly just for the sake of being there
Easton Moore
The killer's motivations made absolutely no sense to me, as very few people on the island actually deserved to die. The meta world was given a ridiculous amount of screen time and its own plotline but is never explained at all what it actually is which made it feel like a gigantic waste of time. The mystery itself was very flimsy because it's just built on 90% lies shown right to your face, so as soon as you realize that, everything becomes easy to solve.
Ayden Thomas
> you didn't read it but you criticize it, you are a faggot
> you did read it, you are a faggot
Are you an utter cretin?
Carter Walker
I feel like you are one of those people that believes if a world or a story is awkwnoledged as fiction in the world itself you start to seethe. It really doesn't change anything if you think about it.
Also, read the manga if you need the story to spoonfeed you the answers. There is an entire chapter dedicated to why Yasu wanted to kill the entire family.
Michael Anderson
>trap
>has tits
You telling me Beatrice went through hormone therapy
Carter Wright
is this good?
Ryder Cox
Illusion
Brandon Rodriguez
In every one of these threads there are always people who shitpost with hyperbole when they haven't even read a single line of the novel. I only take seriously people who describe why they dislike it.
Jack Morales
Beatrice only appears as delusions of Battler/Ange.
Sebastian Howard
It's just a weeb VN version of tales from the crypt. It's much shorter than his ryu07's other works, and although it's never bad IMO there's only one really good standout story in it.
Wyatt Gomez
Killing the adults for being scum is a stretch but sure, killing genji and kumasawa when they were the ones who raised them? Killing maria? George and jessica did nothing wrong at all but could be targets because of yandere love. I have a hard time thinking these innocents would be killed all because battler forgot about a promise he made as a kid.
Samuel Wright
I'm still confused over how Battler is Kyrie's son, wouldn't she know that the baby is healthy? Why would she say that the baby died as soon as it came out.
Camden Hill
Yes, the revolutionary falling from a cliff hormone therapy
Robert Rogers
Genji and Kumasawa enabled Kinzo. So therefore they are guilty. Same goes for Nanjo. Kanon says that he both loves and hates Genji more than any person. And George fucking deserved it. That fat autist.
Carson Ward
not him but how did genji,kumasawa and nanjo enable kinzo
Michael King
Read the manga.
Landon Brooks
>there's only one really good standout story in it.
You talking about the girl running from the shinigami one? Cause that one was fantastic
Jonathan Barnes
Beatrice ITALIA and Beatrice 2nd were females with tits and pussy
Trap beato is beatrices grandaughter, the illusion looks like OG beato
Jace Ramirez
The only thing george did wrong was almost marrying a trap. The whole plot being tranny incest with all 3 cousins feels too laughable to take seriously. I would have far preferred the murders to be predicated on killing natsuhi for chucking them off a cliff, and the other murders happening from things getting out of hand.
Christopher Myers
God Yasu is a dumb retard.
>killing krauss because he doesn't get along with his brothers
>killing hideyoshi even though as far as I remember he wasn't against shannon marrying george
>killing kyrie because rudolph married her
I know all of them would've been dead at the end of the day but still, he's fucking dumb and I hate him.
John Murphy
You mean Umineko isn't self-sufficient as a VN?
Eli Nguyen
It is, but dumb people need the manga to understand the story. It just gave the canon answers to people who could not figure them out on their own.
Liam Nguyen
Do you think people in despair are reasonable?
Brody Brooks
I can't agree with you more, only Natsuhi and Kinzo deserved to be killed. Also imagine wanting to marry someone that doesn't even know that you're a boy, think about George's emotions for a little bit you fucking retarded tranny.
>waaah i need love!!
I hate trannies. Ryukishi really portrayed them well.
Carter Rodriguez
I understood 90% of it by the end, doesn't mean I think they were good answers. Is the meta world explained in the manga?
Justin Rivera
Don't think you can explain the meta-world, it's just a higher plane of existence.
Michael Smith
>The voice patch is shit.
I hope you get Hinamizawa Syndrome
Landon Gray
>ruining the whole atmosphere with the voices
Colton Adams
Satoshi did nothing wrong.
Parker Wilson
Except for being really dumb, yeah, he didn't do anything at all.
Ian Roberts
They didn't do anything to stop Beatrice 2 from getting raped by her own father. They actively hid her and Yasu from the authorities even after she died. And even though they saved her, they made her live with a fucked body. They're all fucking accomplices and deserved to die.
Jose Collins
The meta-world id just a higher level of existence, some people theorize it represents the readers, others the after-life, or you can take the most direct approach and say it is a space created by Beatrice to battle Battler, which was explained like that since day 1. Again, what explanation were you expecting for this? For all we care it could be a fucking game of Dungeons and Dragons, it doesn't matter at all.
Leo Davis
Every thread until we reach the golden land
Jacob Long
Who is not an asshole in this series? Only the cousins I think.
Jeremiah Howard
Voice acting is Kino.
Probably the best in any Visual Novel.
And I'm not just saying that because I saw the Anime first.
Liam Richardson
George is a fattie that steals letters and tries to steal his cousin's crush because no other girl will talk to him.
Jason Thomas
To add to this post, the manga also expands on the meta world origins in the last chapter. It is never explained in a direct way, and it's up to representation.
Alexander Lopez
Because often the meta world is shown parallel to the real world and seemingly 'merges' with it like at the end of episode 2 or when ange talks to featherine. That was the most confusing thing to me. Too much of the meta world makes no sense to me, and I can't care about anything that happens in it because of it. If it just stayed as a narration tool to assist in solving the mysteries of the island like how its used at the end of episode 4 it would've been much better.
Ryder Wilson
The voice acting and music are the only things the anime has going for it.
Chase Brown
No. But I think it's pretty obvious it's in some part a metaphor of the real world (I mean, the whole writer/readers thing).
Joshua Russell
I read the entirety of Umineko as it came out and I feel like I'm being generous when I give it a 4/10. It's a convoluted mess that reads like it was written by a 12 year old. The Japanese fanbase refuses to so much as give Ryuukishi the time of the day nowadays for good reason.
Like I said, almost no Japanese fan cares about Ryuukishi nowadays, and it's more than people just being pissed off about episode 8 of Umineko (people were pissed off about Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi long before then, anyway). It's because they've had enough exposure to him to see through his tricks and stop falling for his brand of spectacle and sophistry. And yes, his terrible, childish text is part of the problem too - there are parts of Higurashi that have such embarrassingly poor writing that they're used as copypasta on 2ch.
Jack Lewis
>childish text is part of the problem too - there are parts of Higurashi that have such embarrassingly poor writing that they're used as copypasta on 2ch.
Such as? I'm curious.
Jacob Powell
You're not wrong. I think higurashi is significantly better however and shows that he's capable of some good writing at least. I do hope WTC5 is good.
Oliver Moore
Based Gohdaposter.
Are you more excited for WTC 5 or Umineko Episode 9?
Tyler Clark
>delusional incest baby with a crushed penis is insane
no way
Wyatt Jackson
Ayden Robinson
>her
umm...
Robert Cox
THIS CHAIR
Justin Taylor
Meta world beato is based on yasus granmom's appearance so its a girl
Lucas Howard
Oh, it seems like they're shitposting about Mions battle versus Okonogi. Yeah, that wasn't a very good part. Really random.
Robert Thompson
Gohda
Old servant lady
Hideyoshi
Hunter Gutierrez
Umineko is the only Japanese game I am aware of that actually won a literature award, so I would be ecstastic to see what they consider a game with better writing, at least thematically. Ryu's prose is really bad at times.
Robert Walker
>gohda
easily swayed by gold and kisses everyones ass
>kumasawa
didn't tell anyone about beatrice getting raped
>hideyoshi
the only true non-asshole, pretty likeable guy
Jace Martinez
Yasu is a boy, Kanon is a boy, meta Shannon is a girl, meta Beato is a girl.
David Hernandez
>You will never drink and play mahjong with Ooishi and Akasaka
It's not fucking fair bros...
Andrew Diaz
The voices are fine by themselves. They just don't fit with the sound design. It wasn't designed with voices.
But since you started with the anime, your opinion is discarded.
Jonathan Cook
>copypasta = bad visual novel
Colton Watson
Why's he taking off his suspenders?
Thomas Johnson
But even this has fucking Ryuukishi at AA, which is about 24 letters higher than it should be.
Justin Parker
Not to mention he was lusting after his cousin (13)'s girlfriend (11) when he was 17. Fucking fat pedo incel
Evan Gutierrez
Prose literally doesn't matter as long as it's readable.
Liam Edwards
Should I watch Higurashi?
Oliver Scott
I really loved the fact that everyone is scared shitless because a cute loli ghost is bored and follows them around.
Daniel Cook
If you want to spoil the game and manga sure.
Nolan Phillips
You should read it.
Jose Nguyen
NEET fatties will tell you to read the VN, but the anime has a fantastic soundtrack and does a great job at adapting the first four arcs.
Not so much the second season, but it does a good enough job to get the rest of the story.
John Wilson
>watch
No, it's better than the Umineko anime, but not as impactful as the visual novel.
Brandon Russell
Eat shit, 47
Ethan Martinez
She killed millions!
Jacob Lewis
Odd how he should've listened to his mom
Mason Cruz
Read the Manga.
Zachary Peterson
>Spoil
It's the same story narrated in another media, isn't it? Should it count as a spoiler if it's 25 hours of anime instead of 80 from the novel?
Owen Morris
Just fucking watch the anime
And skip second season, they will answer all the questions about the mystery around the show. Unfortunately, the answers and the solutions are so mind numbingly boring garbage that it ruins the entire show. The ending especially leaves you regretting your decision to ever finish this story.
Easton Davis
Being an ass-kisser doesn’t make you an asshole.
Jack Ortiz
Anyone can write a story in a million words, but it takes skill to write the same story in 100k. Umineko reads like a first draft that was never edited and would benefit greatly from trimming and cleaning up as there's so much prose that can be culled for better pacing and not inflating the length 50 hours longer than it needs to be.
Brayden Wright
Read the manga if you want a quicker experience while getting the full picture.
Camden Bennett
Eva was always right about everything.
She didn't deserve it
Asher Reyes
Magic ending is the canon and real ending, anyone say otherwise is a goat.
Christopher Ortiz
>Anyone can write a story in a million words
No. Most people can't write stories at all.
Charles Martin
>People still bite the bait even though the series is old as fuck now
Come on guys.
Cameron Baker
She was also the best character.
Daniel Turner
Shouldn't have killed Natsuhi.
Angel Gutierrez
You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Jaxson Jenkins
No, it's utter shit. It rushes the whole mysterious and creepy atmosphere. Basically, the anime is just crazy people with deformed faces in a gore fest.
Cooper Nguyen
Eva is the best real world girl AND meta girl, how the actual fuck does she do it?
Accident retard. Eva wouldn't murder.
Jayden White
Why not?
Tyler Peterson
Is episode 9 out yet?
Charles Watson
Accidental murder is still murder, it's their fault for playing with guns anyway.
Dylan Jenkins
I sure do love the 3 hour inheritance discussion happening over and over and over.
William Scott
Well the game would obviously have a lot more details but since you spoiled key events you wouldn't have the same interest in playing it. I would recommend watching after playing.
Wyatt Barnes
Why did Ange start hating her again?
Samuel Clark
It's Natsuhi's dumbass fault that she rushes towards a person with a gun.
Justin Morales
>he can’t enjoy family politics
Gabriel Ross
The fuck is a Nipah.
Juan Sanchez
She was very strict, became jaded, and everyone said she killed Ange's family.
Adrian Gonzalez
Not him but I watched Higurashi after reading it and seeing how they completely butchered the scene in which Keiichi doesn't give Mion the plushy bear made me drop it. What the fuck is that anime adaptation.
Gabriel Ward
Bernkanstel convinced her she was the killer AKA she developed a brain at some point and realized Eva being the only survivor of a mass massacre was sus
William Rogers
Yes, it's fun. The VN is just not worth it unless you have the weeaboo autism syndrome
Jaxon Davis
Ange is a fatass retard that can't dress for shit. I completely hate her only because of chapter 4, that shit made me almost drop the VN on how boring it was. I don't care about delusional Ange talking alone in a park. The Maria storyline was good though, made Rosa somehow an even more hateable character than Ange.
Jason Perez
Those were the most interesting parts actually. Another level than Kinzo crying and youngsters talking uninteresting shit.
Ayden Morales
>Rosa
Hey now she just need a good dicking!
Caleb Price
Also needs a bullet in her brain.
Meta-world Rosa is good, real world Rosa is the worst shit.
Jayden Jackson
Post reaction images and more memes please
Blake Rodriguez
Ryan Sullivan
Rosa literally did nothing wrong.
Thomas Ortiz
Let's be happy and together all the time, while I neglect you and spend nights having fun with strangers fucking me all the time instead of spending time with my daughter.
Aiden Howard
Ange was such a little cutie wtf happened
Asher Lee
Rosas problem is she is too realistic
Owen Thomas
Rosa was a fine mother, it’s not her fault Maria was autistic
Easton Wilson
Talking to imaginary 8 year olds doesn't really develop you well.
Brody Murphy
>those hips
Hunter White
But Meta-world is canon! You can't prove me wrong goatie!
Austin Williams
Ange's downfall was rejecting Eva.
Eva was an inherently good mother, to George, and she cared for Ange at first.
Meanwhile Kyrie saw Ange as a means to tie Rudolf to herself, Rosa was a whore and beat Maria for tiny reasons due to paranoia, Natsuhi drops babies off cliffs
Luis Davis
Eva sucks at raising children. Just look at Jorji.
Juan Wilson
God I fucking love Eva.
Not her fault he's an incel, society made him that way.
Austin Taylor
Imagine if Ep 7-8 were released nowadays and the amount of tranny/dilate posts it would bring
Joseph Powell
I mean, look at her, she really did develop well
David Fisher
Those are just Kinzo's supreme genes.
Elijah Morgan
>Crazy tranny ruins everything
>She's a pitiable being who's existance itself is suffering though
Ryukishi really was ahead of his time
Jeremiah Powell
Japs with shit taste as usual. Ryukishi07 is pulp kino.
Caleb Murphy
>tfw just discovered Tsubasa was a thing
What the fuck, there is chapter in this shit that goes over Gohda's past. I never knew this existed. Can't wait to read it tonight.
Asher Williams
he really was
Alexander Cooper
post umimemes
Isaac Rodriguez
Robert Myers
>Hits her constantly
>Breaks her toys
>Leaves her alone for several days to go fuck random men
>Only cares about her when she makes her look bad
>Too prideful to admit her daughter has autism, tries to beat it out of her instead
>Resents her own daughter for existing and limiting her life as a "free independant woman"
Yeah no, IRL Rosa a shit
Josiah Kelly
I think Battler was intentionally conceived to be a parody of the "muh devil's proof" retards
Logan Jones
James Gomez
I fucking despise Ooishi. He gets like 50% of the total screen time in Higurashi and does nothing with it, has there ever been a more incompetent detective?
Jose Martinez
Spare the rod, spoil the child
Samuel Thomas
Maria definitely has autism right?
>repeated phrases
>obsession with magic
>can't grasp social cues when the cousins or Rosa try to hand her an olive branch
Julian Hall
It's unclear. It could be the result of Rosa's abuse.
Jaxon James
Kevin Lee
I'll say it for you.
Black women look fuckable.
Matthew Wood
>The slice of life is unfunny as fuck and prime examples of "japanese humour"
Fucking nigger
Me seething at your tastes aside, I can see why you wouldn't like those. Having watched the anime for Higurashi first instead I was heavily biased to love anything that wasn't shown in the adaptation, including the slice of life moments or the club games. I vastly prefer Umineko but Higurashi is not bad at all
Elijah Foster
Kek i thought it was loli Erika for a moment
Brayden Jackson
So, is there actually a full translation of every Tsubasa chapter? The translation I downloaded only has 12 out of the 15 stories.
Jack Collins
If K1 and Battler switched places, who would do better in the other's scenario? Assume that Battler has no knowledge of the fictional Higurashi in his own world and has to start from scratch. I'm betting on K1 since Battler sucks so hard at remembering.
Tyler Murphy
Battler the chad would fuck all the girls and solve the mystery.
Caleb Wright
Battler, since he was adamant on believe in his family until there was no other choice, meaning he wouldn't suffer the Hinamizawa syndrome.
Easton Thomas
>battler
>chad
>loves a tranny and ends up braindead because of it
Kayden Flores
he has so many girls that he literally forgot about her
Levi Rogers
I forgot. Does best girl Dlanor also likes him too, or was it just respect?
Caleb Lopez
I don't think Dlanor gives a shit about anyone other than her autistic wife.
Carter Cooper
None of the magical characters except obviously Beatrice have a crush on any of the humans. Honestly, it's kind of refreshing and makes sense, you think Yasu could come up with anything love related that didnt involve her?
Angel Jenkins
battler is fucking GAY
Christopher Bell
are they going to meet again in ciconia?
Kayden Wilson
>MC's team is called Warcats and it's emblem is a black cat with a scythe
you tell me
Nolan Wilson
oh, i didn't look at anything ciconia related since I only finished umineko 2 days ago. is there anything that resembles candies or books?
Nicholas Roberts
I don't understand how Battler is Kyries son, didn't she say that her baby died when it was born?
Connor Young
rudolf's lie, it wasn't Kyrie's son that died
Juan Lopez
Those are Ciconia´s main characters.
Charles Phillips
Yeah but didn't Kyrie said herself that her baby died? Wouldn't the mother know if her baby died right at birth? I'm really confused by this.
Owen Johnson
he lied to both of them
Kayden Adams
It's been a long time since I played it but I thought the baby died like, a few hours after birth and then was switched.
Adrian Mitchell
It’s possible Kyrie had a C-section and was given anesthesia. She wouldn’t know what happened until the drugs wore off.
Kayden Rivera
>doubting the word of moogy-dono
Easton Evans
Why did he job so hard yesterday?
Elijah Myers
>and does a great job at adapting the first four arcs.
Really? I've only watched a bit of the anime but I thought it was pretty bad. I was assuming it gets better later since that would explain why people like it so much. I think I watched up to the start of arc 3 and everything just felt underwhelming and boring.
Leo Roberts
Threadly reminder that episode 8 is the best episode.
Robert Perez
I don't think there'll be Bern and Lambda, but it'll 100% have another not!Rika and not!Takano.
Jordan Hill
Higurashi is not for you, then. Abandon this series or play Chadneko.
Chase Myers
Okay, so Kyrie gave birth to Battler and then Rudolf somehow lied to her and while this was happening Asumu gave birth to a baby that died and Rudolf switched it with Battler. Thanks Anons for claryifing this to me.
Juan Rivera
You mean the worst? Explain how its any good.
Jack Green
Asumu probably was a way better mother to Battler than Kyrie could ever be. Spiteful POS
Owen Howard
i'm hoping for keiichi to somehow appear but I know that's very unlikely, maybe he could be the sorcerer of friendship or something gay like that
Christian Scott
I loved the VN I just thought the anime was shit
Hunter Diaz
Oh. That's a common sentiment with people who first started the VN, I personallly think it cuts everything I dislike of the VN. Still slogging through Arc 2.
Liam Rivera
Kyrie was just a psycho bitch
Bentley Ortiz
god i fucking hate ryukishi for ruining her, i was okay with her wanting to kill everyone since she was always cold but saying that she doesn't give a shit about battler and ange is retarded
Andrew Perry
Well, which one would you fuck Yea Forums?
Luis James
She said that to trick Eva to care for Ange in case she died, it's almost canon.
Jaxon Hill
Is that shown in the manga or something?
Caleb Ross
Which one is the trap? that one
Angel Cruz
Nah, it's a very popular theory. Both in the VN/manga after spouting all of that shit to Eva and Eva killing her; Eva says out loud how she is going to care for Ange and give her the home she deserves. Right after that the narration says how Kyrie died with a smile in her face and tried to say a single word but couldn't because of her injuries, people speculate she said: Checkmate.
Take it with a grain of salt, but it's absolutely my headcanon. It works great.
Cameron Cook
I want more of the Higurashi "actors" to come back in general. No, Okonogi doesn't count.
Gavin Flores
ok that makes her my favorite character now
Lincoln Murphy
Yeah, was checking how the manga portrayed it again and it seems way too convenient to be a coincidence. Especially how it is framed.
Chase Rodriguez
how the fuck did okonogi even reappear in umineko, i would've guessed he'd still be in prison, or did higurashi actually never happened in the umineko world?
Jason Rogers
When did this happen, I'm having trouble finding it in the VN to see how it is written in there.
Jaxon Gomez
Tea party of Episode 7.
Jordan Young
I'm forgetting the exact details, but the explanation I remember is something like: we're supposed to think of the characters as being portrayed by stage actors from a troupe or company, thus explaining how Okonogi's "actor" can reprise his role or how Battler's "actor" can show up in Rose Guns Days. Also, yes, Higurashi is a book iirc in the Umineko universe, not something that is historical fact.
Evan Miller
Episode Seven Tea Party, it's the ending to the massacre.
Around 1 hour and 20 minutes in this video.
Nathan Richardson
Battler references things in Tatarigoroshi as something he read in a book.
Christian Price
To add to this, a big part of the theory; more than Eva caring for Angie, was that Kyrie got Eva to confirm she wasn't going to tell the truth to her. So yeah, she cared for her.
Charles Flores
And by her, I mean Angie. I should properly sleep before posting in Umineko threads.
Andrew Watson
Its' Gaap, you retard. Gaap is Nanjo.
Grayson Stewart
Gabriel Myers
How is Gaap Nanjo?
Chase Hall
>ywn box with Krauss on the moon
Robert Baker
Makes things disappear, just like how Nanjo made Yasu's dick disappear
Ethan Ward
take a look at this cute rapist
Jacob Brown
pure kino
Ian Parker
>you will never push her out of a ship
Lincoln Nelson
All VNs are like that. Ryukishi purposely makes his stories too long because the visual novels he took inspiration from (KEY VNs) do the same. Yes, it's that retarded.
Sebastian Hernandez
here's your umineko sequel for 2019 bro.
Dylan Sanchez
>being a Uminekofag or Higurashifag
>not being a Ryukishi07Chad
kys
Jacob Wilson
Keiichi > Battler
Zachary Wood
It's a shame too, since they literally made a novella length VN that is pure kino.
Chase Baker
Based and redpilled
Easton Jackson
>jessica is badass against kyrie in episode 6
>gets killed easily in the real murder
i know she kinda did defend but still did nothing .
Grayson Bailey
What was up with people speculating there might be a studio making another HIgurashi anime not too long ago?
I really want that to happen.
Brody Long
Her eyes look like cat eyes and Kyrie had been saying that it had been a miracle that she didn't have to kill Asumu so the best explanation I've heard is that Bernkastel got pissed and was moving Jessica's piece on the board directly. Trusting a witch's story is suspect in general though.
Alexander Perez
Nobody gives a shit about Gun Rose Days and the other non-WTC works. Ryukishi overall isn't a very good author, he just does some specific things very well and his works shine when he focuses on them. That's why I'm worried for Ciconia, since he's terrible at action.
Charles Foster
[blue]Jesus was never a human, and "his" existence were only some teachings by random folks! "Jesus'" revival consisted of multiple people believing in them after three days, take this!
Jeremiah Barnes
Wishful thinking. A Higurashi anime remake would be amazing, but it wouldn't make financial sense. A Ciconia anime or even Umineko S2 would be more likely.
Kevin Brown
A Uminkeo anime would have to be redone entirely.
Jacob Lopez
Read Higurashi, but it's Rika's verbal tick she has. Real spoilers: It's how she manages to sound childish despite repeating the Hinamizawa incident for over 100 years and being bitter and cynical of ever making it out with her friends alive
Christopher Adams
because bernkastel told her
literally
Juan Clark
RGD was great so I have no worry for Ciconia.
Ian Williams
Is RGD actually good? I always hear mixed things about R07's stuff aside from WTC.
Liam Cox
People don't care about Rose Guns Days just because it's action and not WTC. Everyone who played it thinks it's good, just not as mind-blowing as WTC.
Nathan Garcia
Is the answer Rika is the oldest?
Rika truth: Miyako is a liar.
Miyoko lying means Miyako isn't the oldest
Satoko lying means Rika is the oldest
Andrew Perry
Yes it is, it's very different from Umineko and Higurashi though.
Nolan Phillips
yes
Jason Davis
This worth getting in the steam sale? I never finished When They Cry.
Leo Lee
Not gonna lie. I'm actually sorta proud I managed to figure that out.
Carter Rogers
>Not gonna lie. I'm actually sorta proud I managed to figure that out.
Now figure this one too, the quizes were very fun in my opinion. I didn't knew the answer of this one at first.
Chase Reyes
>Nobody gives a shit about Gun Rose Days
I'm reading Rose Guns Days right now and I think it's really good. More people should read it.
Jonathan Robinson
The toughest Umineko puzzle was Mammon's puzzle in Witches & Woodlands
Nathaniel Cox
The question which had Rosa carrying ingots out of the exploding island had me in stitches. Those 4th wall jokes were great.
Jason Ortiz
A: It's possible. You just move her to a different timezone
Angel Cruz
Actually. I hedge my bets with my original answer here. It's currently midnight on Christmas Day, when it becomes night again, it will still be Christmas
Angel Evans
Bingo
Josiah Myers
I really liked it that everyone had a puzzle that had a resemblance to their character, for example Kumasawa had a Mackerel riddle in it and Nanjo has an ambulance one.
Here's another hard puzzle.
Noah Carter
That one's dumb because "9 twice" is too ambiguous. It should be worded more clearly
Jace Nguyen
The tip that Eva gives you is that 9 sounds like "kyu", so ambulance is "kyukyu". Have fun with the riddle!
Tyler Flores
Is it nine twice in English or nine twice in Japanese?
Isaac Robinson
Japanese.
Angel Ross
Even knowing that it's still dumb. It could still mean either 99 or 18, or even 81, depending on how you look at it
Hudson Lopez
That's what I thought too.
I hope an user is going to respond with an answer, since I still don't have any idea even after the bigger hint.
Leo Baker
That should be D.
99 + 20 = 119
130 - 20 = 110
The difference is 9.
Nolan Perez
Nice work, that was the answer.
Here's another one, didn't knew this either.
Jackson Torres
Krauss is unironically the kindest adult. Never killed anyone too unlike Hideyoshi.
Xavier Garcia
The hint for this one was terrible.
Parker Torres
He's too dumb to kill anyone.
Chase Robinson
He's the only one that never did anything wrong. His only sin is being naive and bad with money.
Noah Fisher
He killed Goat-kun without remorse.
Samuel Thompson
He was in favour of Kinzo abusing Eva and laughed at her in the flashbacks of Episode 3. He was alwayw portrayed as the hard-ass brother.
Owen Reyes
It's pretty easy if you play the piano just like in the hint.
Asher White
Is that the best you’ve got? >>>/c/hrist+jesus+existed+in+1st+century+Jerusalem
Cooper Turner
Yeah that is pretty bad, I guess. But to be fair, his siblings are all psychopaths so it seems pretty well deserved in hindsight.
Jason Butler
Lying is a sin as well, as is not giving your father a proper funeral.
Owen Thomas
The cat has your pipe
Justin Ramirez
This one is a bitch because I'm sure it'll be some pun like Sanshiro Nikuro (Akairo/Haiiiro) Sankuro Sanshiro that I'm not going to get and I doubt the logic of picking Black to turn that Nikuro into a Sankuro is really going to be the answer.
So I'm going to pick an empty space because I don't understand the reference being made.
Noah Reed
Austin Perry
Kinzo deserved that shit. If I were Krauss, I'd have just thrown his body in the dumpster or maybe make a shrunken head and gain his power.
Jaxson Collins
Alright. I may have thought a bit too hard with Japanese puns on this one. Is there anymore?
Brayden Hughes
>Too smart to be a brainlet yet also too uncultured
Xavier Adams
Here's another one!
Julian Watson
Kinzo should have just written a proper will like a responsible adult.
Zachary Bailey
I can't longer think about Umineko when I see Battler I can only think about stupid wrestling and I love it
Jackson Wood
What connection do Higurashi and Umineko share?
Andrew Howard
Kinzo did nothing wrong.
Matthew Hill
Easton Morgan
Same writer, Higurashi is a book in Umineko.
Connor Fisher
[blue] "Jesus Christ" was just a random man, not related to the "Jesus" teachings!
[blue] You only mentioned the "Jesus" teachings being dead, not "Jesus Christ"!
Anthony Turner
it's copy pasta because japs don't understand the special forces listed?
Robert Edwards
>Higurashi is a book in Umineko.
Oh that's it? Just a cameo?
Grayson Price
Because r07 realized most people are retarded and he could just feed them bullshit instead of making a coherent story.
Thomas Morgan
How was Ange supposed to know the periodic table for this one? I studied it almost a decade ago and fuck if I remember any of it.
Jonathan Butler
Bernkastel too.
Jose Kelly
3 characters in Umineko were involved in Higurashi.
Anthony Gomez
Dont know who that is
Oh, which game should i play first for that to make sense?
Jordan Stewart
Higurashi first
Jayden Walker
Play Higurashi first.
Caleb Thomas
I'm of two trains of thought here. Either it's 91 or 112 because you wouldn't pay less to the Platinum winner or it's 57 to retain the 9797 pattern.
I'm going to say 57 since it's my strongest logic.
Easton Evans
They are separate stories it's just that Umineko references Higurashi. You can read Umineko on it's own, but if you're going to read them both anyway then read Higurashi first
Carter Stewart
OPEN YOUR EYES JOHN! THE. CAT. HAS. YOUR. PIPE.
Angel Davis
, think of what you learned in elementary school!
Here's the last one, took me one hour to solve it, and this time no spoilers please!
Aaron Campbell
Less than ten steps. Its a two passenger boat and everyone counts as one passenger?
Ethan Rogers
, took me 10 minutes actually to solve it. I even started drawing it out on paper but then reread it again and found the trick. Hope you enjoyed these puzzles. See you again, Have a nice day.
Cameron Robinson
It was a good puzzle. That piano and money one still got me though. Need to work on my lateral thinking to start creating context to questions without it.
Instead of looking at the white black as a logic puzzle, I should have thought to myself if there is anything which fits that pattern first instead of forcing a pattern onto it.
However this is all hindsight and aside from that, this has been plenty enjoyable.
Jayden Anderson
Okay thanks bros. Gotta finish Fata Morgana first, i'm almost done, then i shall
Robert Cox
Why does she have the tape
Jason Ramirez
Because Battler is a retard.
Bentley Price
so it's easier for her to rape
Tyler Perez
She wants you to break open her closed room
Ayden Peterson
I want to be mentally raped by her.
Robert Morris
She's a teenage girl who sort of knows how to box vs a dangerous yakuza woman who has been in multiple irl fights
Jessica never stood a chance
K
Adam Davis
This
Don't even care about the new game the premise does nothing for me
Lucas Howard
Higurashi was the better one too.
Nolan Butler
Funny. Her being an irredeemable psychopath made me like her more
I use her for inspiration then making female/sociopath villains
Charles Edwards
Have a feeling Ciconia is gonna be a total flop and regarded as the ZTD of WTC. There's like 0 hype for it, Ryu isn't releasing any more information and the fanbase seems split with a Umineko-obsessed section who are indignant about it not being a mystery like Umineko, and will shit on it for any aspects of it that differentiate it from Umineko
Hunter Lopez
it's always the third entry in the series that's fucking up everything, and the first one being the best
Ryan Moore
I mean, I get being negative is probably for the better; but WTC5 being a ZTD seems unlikely.
The game is still a VN, it's completely new and not related with the other games, battle royale is in right now, and we might even get just the first chapter. It's not like ZTD which ultimately failed because of the previous games. Hell, for some people Umineko was the ZTD with it's final chapters ruining the story.
At least we will get some cool new music and a cool premise. Let's give it a try.
Parker Reed
Asher Perez
She was great in chapter 6.
Joseph Collins
She looks like she's in her twenties.
Jayden Bennett
>implying Battler didn't bait Erika into creating a logic error so Beatrice could revive
Aiden Murphy
Generally mid-late teenagers do.
Charles Edwards
>implying someone canonically incompetent would be able to do that
Lincoln Nguyen
I missed the initial Umineko hype, I don't care if it's not as good, this is my chance.
Julian Nelson
>implying Battler can't do something as simple as intentionally fucking up and hoping that the more competent Beatrice will solve the fuck up
Carter Morris
That's a bit of a stretch. It's more likely that he willingly stayed in the logic error because using the only way out would give Erika a major clue towards solving Beato's heart. Hence why he asks Beato if she's sure before they give the "17 people" line.
Chase Cruz
>killing Gohda because he didn't wanted to starve
It truly is the worst.
Benjamin Sanders
But why did she kill Maria and George
Charles Robinson
God I wish that were me
Justin Perez
The supple thighs.
Connor King
Too autistic and too fat.
Jack Clark
I think Ciconia is going to be good and I'm excited for it
Jordan Nelson
She had the idea that by killing everyone they would all reach the Golden Land and asu would be able to date both or some corny shit.
They expand the idea by saying Yasu added those self imposed rules to her murder plan hoping any of the four cousins, especially Battler, would stop her before she carried it out.
Tyler Howard
Do we know if Ciconia is going to be released in episodes?
Parker Flores
>hey George I killed your parents and I'm going to kill myself now, have fun LOL
At that point killing the cousins is an act of mercy.
Aaron Campbell
This. After all, at the conclusion of the 5th game, Battler established that he created the 6th game with the intention to express that he truly understood Beato's game. The entire progression of game 6 including the hijack by actually malicious forces outside the GM's original plans is utterly accurate to the true tale, even if the actors are a bit different.
Thomas Sanchez
Not like Umineko has a good premise too.
>A rich family gets together and dies together, inspired by Agatha Christie's most famous work
Owen Barnes
Why is Dlanor so moe?
Nicholas Long
desdesdesdesdesdesdesdes
Christian Price
Because she's a kid.
Grayson James
It's the drills.
Adrian Evans
desdesdesdesdesdesdesdes
Aaron Ward
>great equalizer is the death
What did she mean by that?
Carson Russell
don't know but it sounds cool
Lincoln Carter
Death makes everyone equal.
Jason Miller
You have 10 seconds to explain why you haven't read Rose Guns Days yet
youtube.com
Joshua Reyes
I'm finishing my vn catalog
Joshua Morgan
This looks really good, is it on Steam?
Isaiah Ross
Lack of talk about the game. If I hate it I'll just scream to the void, if I like it it will be depressing to enjoy something no one has played
Joseph Williams
It's on my backlog. I read the prologue and I have a feeling I need a specific mood for it.
Tyler Rodriguez
It's been sitting on my hard HDD delrive for years. I'll definitely read it... soon
Jaxson Torres
I just read Higu and Umi and I'm taking a break from R07 while I read some old Uchikoshi stuff. I promise I'll read it.
William Reed
Sometimes I still remember my Great Equalizer (Is the death) in TF2.
Good shit.
Anthony Powell
No, you will have to pirate it
Alexander Ramirez
>trapped mansion murder mystery isn't a good premise
It's the best premise you plebeian. It forces people to recognize their mortality, while still having a slim chance to put everything together before it's their turn to die. It's a localized apocalypse that churns out one juicy dramatic scene after another.
Sebastian Jenkins
I already read it bro.
Noah Cox
I like big gauntlet fights in the sky
Brayden Watson
hey wait a minute, that laugh...
Oliver Bennett
Crushed womb is better than crushed balls. I stand by this.
Lincoln Rodriguez
Come now, don’t be pedantic
>>>/c/hrist+jesus+and+simply+jesus+refer+to+the+same+person
Angel Campbell
>If K1 and Battler switched places, who would do better in the other's scenario? Assume that Battler has no knowledge of the fictional Higurashi in his own world and has to start from scratch. I'm betting on K1 since Battler sucks so hard at remembering.
Which "Battler" are we talking about here?
12 year old in 18 year old's body with all his knowledge about Mystery novels removed, aka FanFictionBattler/PieceBattler?
The guy that's slowly piecing together his identity throughout the games, aka MetaBattler?
The "actual" Battler when he was 18 years old and before he suffered from braindamage, aka PrimeBattler?
Or is it perhaps the amnesiac guy who got memories he can't identify with, aka Tohya?
Well, which one is it?
Easton Lewis
I thought piece Battler was the same as he actually was during the incident? I remember him correcting Erika on some obscure mystery novel fact on the game board, and she gets mad because he's just a piece.
Isaiah Brown
The actual battler. It would be a bit unfair to take away all of his knowledge about mystery novels, but it would also be unfair to have him as Tohya or MetaBattler with prior experience writing forgeries and playing through "games".
Jack Davis
Doesn't PieceBattler also know about mystery novels?
Isaiah Ross
[blue] Define "dead", Jesus wasn't literally dead, only his mind was dead for three days.
[blue] There was a secret passage that let Jesus escape.
Carter Powell
>>>/s/ecret+passages+do+not+exist+in+the+tomb
Julian Bennett
Crushed womb and balls mean nothing before a nonexistent dick. Poor Yasu never had the chance to fap in his life.
David Miller
Jesus was killed by small bombs!
Noah Jones
[blue] The tomb in the first line isn't the same as the one in the second line.
Jayden Turner
I literally just finished season 1 a minute ago and holy shit, it's amazing. What a banging setup for season 2. RGD really deserves more popularity.
Jack Flores
>>>/o/nly+has+been+referenced+in+red
>>>/y/ou+are+running+out+of+technicalities+to+scapegoat
Adrian Murphy
...
Asher Garcia
《Blue》The rock was moved using a strong animal or contraption X that is capable of moving such large rocks. Then, Jesus' body was moved by someone, the same person closed the tomb with contraption X.
Justin Myers
I'll give my two cents
Human only refers to a single human, so multiple people could have moved the rock
Alexander Morales
Large contraptions? Did you forget this is 1st century Israel we are talking about? No matter I’ll let you have your little victory. It’ll be all the sweeter when I crush you fedora delusions later.
Evan Turner
Well, come on Red-Anonymous, try to escape these blue wedges of truth.
Sebastian Brown
Definitly not. First off EP1-2 Battler are was written by Yasu. The last parts, escpacially all the magic stuff, probably wasn't in the actual bottles. Those are the wet dreams and possibly fetishes for the "Beatrice persona" and the pieces. MetaBattler's first true appearence was at the end of EP2. Literally every other appearence of his, including the "lesserMetaBattler" were Piece Battler (as we got confirmed via EP1 ???-Party where MetaBattler was still "forming" despite "lowerMetaBattler" already having confronted Beato in the normal EP1 Tea Party, as well as during EP5 later, when we saw "Beato" still being perfectly active as "lowerMetaBeato" despite MetaBeato being in a sort of coma - hence "lowerMeta" characters are based on the piece versions.)
EP3-4 Battler was written & edited by 9^9 so a mix of Tohya's still unclear memories and Ikuko's "artistic spin" on everything.
EP5 and EP6 are harder to pin point. I still am not sure who wrote them in "reality".
Regardless, lowerMetaBattler acts differently in each game, escpacially every set of two. The mystery knowledge seemed rather consistent though. It seems to exist for trivia stuff, monologues and such. However when it comes to the actual memories, they seem to just go poof in smoke. Battler falls for some rather laughably simple tricks for someone who is supposedly a Mystery Geek. Hence why I don't buy that this part was conveniently removed from him to "watsonfy" him.
The problem is, we don't know much about the actual Battler. For example, which Battler is it that "loses at first to win at the end", aka "Genius Battler"? It's kept vague whether that's a trait of just MetaBattler, of just PrimeBattler, or both.
Gavin Rogers
On the last season now, if wtc 5 is as good as rose gun days i'll be satisfied
Jayden Diaz
Which century it is is completely irrelevant!
Say it in red, "No contraptions could have moved or lifted the rock".
Checkmate, BEEEAAATOOOOOOOOOOORRRIIIIIIIICCHHHHEEEEEEEEE
Juan White
I really wish there would be an Umineko kind of game where the player Beatrice needs to create a tale then the Battler player needs to resolve it in 10 minutes, and there should be an observer too so that Beatrice can't say false red truths.
Jackson Garcia
If I like ace attorney will I like this? Also which version do I go for?
Lincoln Hall
>
It is confirmed in the manga (don't remember if it's in the VN) that Yasu and Battler bonded over discussing mystery novels.
Kayden Parker
maybe. read higurashi first though, and that is entirely unlike ace attorney. you can tell the author likes the ace attorney series though, so there is some influence there.
Carson Price
If you like solving murder mysterys then for sure. Though it is darker and more chuuni than AS.
You can get it on Steam or pirate it. If you get the steam version you could get the mod for ps3 sprites, cgs and backgrounds. Torrents usually come with mods pre installed.
Jason Sanchez
Exactly my point. For someone supposedly so engrossed in Mystery novels, where did all that knowledge disappear to when it counts?
Joshua Turner
There's a lack of mystery battle stories. Umineko stands out so hard because it's unapologetically silly in its approach to hard murder of family members. Battle and Beatrice fighting over their perspectives of how the various murders were committed in E2 and E3 is so unique that it draws in even the doubters.
Leo Gomez
You could easily do that as a party game. Just pick a mystery/short story let the witch player and the observer read it, then give the other players a fantastical version of the same story to read.
Nathaniel Hernandez
>garmfielf
Justin Gomez
YOUR ORANGE CAT HAS YOUR PIPE!
Dylan Scott
yeah, but then I'd need friends that know about umineko, and actually want to put time into that
Ryan Morales
I am also interested in the Higurashi voice path. But for some reason the 07thmod wiki gives me a damn 406 error every damn time and the github patch says under Installation says See Our Wiki. Shit's annoying.
Cooper Rivera
but if the player knows for sure that it comes from a mystery novel, you lose a major element of what makes early Umineko interesting
a big part of it is not knowing for sure if magic was involved or not, and then trying to make a logical explanation while the other person tries to convince you it's not a mystery.
Joshua Peterson
vocaroo.com
Caleb Richardson
I read 4+ years ago that the voice data in Higurashi PS2 wasn't organized well, and that making a patch would take an incredible amount of time. Maybe it's still not done and you're getting punked.
Isaiah Rogers
To the Ryukishi needs to be able to draw out the plot store. It's still there I think, he just blows at coping with emotions so he's easily manipulated into a tizzy where specifics of that knowledge go out the window.
Thomas Nelson
It wouldn't work because the witch would be incentivised to always give the minimum red required to destroy the blue in order to waste the players time. So you will specifically deny the specific theory they've put forth and make sure not to deny anything else so that the player wastes their time going through each minor detail
Luke Barnes
Of course a contraption could have moved the rock, they needed a way to place it in front of the tomb in the first place. But if you really want to here the red that badly, try this one on for size
>>>/n/either+contraptions+nor+animals+moved+the+rock+in+the+following+week+after+jesus+was+placed+in+the+tomb
>>>/no/+group+of+people+pushed+pulled+lifted+or+otherwise+shifted+the+rock+before+the+tomb+was+found+empty
Caleb Lewis
>[blue] There was a secret passage that let Jesus escape.
I CANNOT let that HERESY stand without being CHALLENGED!
[red]Knox's 3rd
[red]It is FORBIDDEN for hidden passages to EXIST.
>《Blue》The rock was moved using a strong animal or contraption X that is capable of moving such large rocks. Then, Jesus' body was moved by someone, the same person closed the tomb with contraption X.
MORE HERESY!
[red]Knox's 1st
[red]It is FORBIDDEN for the culprit to be ANYONE not mentioned in the EARLY part of the STORY.
If you want to CLAIM that there is "someone" who could have DONE that, then can you provide a LIST of the possible SUSPECTS that fulfill that CRITERIUM?
And now for the greatest HERESY yet:
[red]Knox's 4th
[red]It is FORBIDDEN for unknown drugs or hard to UNDERSTAND scientific devices to be USED.
Was there any FORESHADOWING or explanation for any such "contraption X" to possibly EXIST within this STORY? If you can't provide such, your theory will be considered HERESY!
DIE THE DEATH! SENTENCE TO DEATH! GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEATH!
Samuel Wilson
testinggg
Camden Ward
>>>/w/ord+of+god+need+not+follow+the+rules+of+knox
Adam Butler
Really the things to ask would be if there was any other entrance/exit from the cave no need to be secret, if the rock was moved more than once the day they found out Jesus was gone, and if Jesus' body was moved on his own volition.
Colton Brown
>>>>/no/+group+of+people+pushed+pulled+lifted+or+otherwise+shifted+the+rock+before+the+tomb+was+found+empty
Hoo, what's that, Beato?? You can't say it in red HUH?! That's what I thought so too!
This is how everything went down!
[Blue]First of all, Jesus was dead when he first went into the tomb.
[Blue]After that, a group of people, most likely the Apostles pushed the rock, and so Jesus wasn't in the tomb after three days!
How do you like this blue truth?!
Isaac Robinson
You can’t go right for the kill shot, you need to dance around with wild possibilities first.
Connor White
one pushed the rock aside, but the hand of God
Xavier Rivera
Sorry, cat got my tongue, I think I need some more tea
>>>/n/o+group+of+people+pushed+pulled+lifted+or+otherwise+shifted+the+rock+before+the+tomb+was+found+empty
Caleb Cooper
UHWOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I need, to not stop thinking! If I stop thinking, I'm dead!
Zachary Anderson
Tch.
Useless...All useless...!!!
Try this on for size,
repeat it, "Jesus did not move an inch by physical means since being put in the tomb before his body was reported to be missing".
Physical means refers to being moved by another being, or by himself. Falling through a hole also counts. Magically disappearing does not.
Also, "Jesus was alone, no other human was in the tomb".
Justin Lee
Oh and Battler, do me a favor and reread that first red truth said by his holiness.
Samuel Green
come on battler, i believe in you
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Jose Gray
Of course he moved physically, he resurrected and walked out himself. Who are you trying to disprove Battler?
Lucas Harris
How could she know if Rudolph was the one who lied to her? Both Asumu and Kyrie gave birth at the same time, but he chose to swap the babies since it was most convenient for him at the time to stick with Asumu
Jeremiah Watson
Say it in red, I don't trust white words!
《Blue》 Jesus faked his death, his accomplice gave a fake autopsy fooling everyone into believing he was dead.
I won't stop there, take this, BEEAAAAATOOOOOOO!!
《Blue》 Jesus hid in the tomb, everyone just assumed he had left the tomb, but he didn't actually leave until after the tomb was re-opened!
Connor Bell
THAT is but a witch's DECEPTION. It can be EASILY deduced from your EXPRESSION.
[blue] While the word of GOD indeed doesn't need to FOLLOW the rules of knox...
[blue] ...we are not SPEAKING about the word of god HERE, but rather about the book known as the BIBLE.
[red] It is NOT within the authority of the Territory Lord to DETERMINE via red or golden truth, whether or not the BIBLE is an accurate representation of the word of GOD.
[blue] Therefore, in regards to the BIBLE, the rules of knox shall APPLY!
Jordan Garcia
Jaxson Morris
>Of course he moved physically, he resurrected and walked out himself. Who are you trying to disprove Battler?
[red] Van Dine's Rule #7
[red] It is forbidden to have a crime without a corpse.
John Reed
Oi, Bern, let these kids fight. It's kind of amusing.
Levi Gonzalez
>>>/jp/esus+body+moving+is+not+a+crime
Joshua Hughes
reminder that the time limit is until 500 posts, if beatrice doesn't refute all the blue truths then battler wins
Daniel Lewis
I am quite retarded. Can someone explain devil's proof?
I understood Higurashi but I'm not bright or perceptive enough for umineko. All I know is red truths are about twisting words because expecting your opponent to be truthful is silly.
Carson Gonzalez
Something, negative, you can't deny with proof. Like god not existing. Like magic not existing.
Asher Myers
Carter Morris
Liam Robinson
doing my part to bump this shit off the board
John Perry
The death of Jesus was already stated in red, fool, you’re running in circles. By the way,
>>>/n/o+hiding+spots+for+a+person+or+corpse+exist+within+the+tomb
Jack Russell
Heh, even if I am running in circles, I only have to have one unrefuted blue wedge by the time we reach the 500th post.
Bring it on, Beatoriche!
《Blue》 Someone dug into the cave and carried out Hesus' corpse! The path was left open, so it is not hidden. It still went by un-noticed due to the lack of a competent person with deductive skills!
Let's see how you beat this one, bouncy golden butterfly!
Brody Campbell
This is why no one else but Erika and Berncoldsteel will play with you Dlanor, you can’t accept that >>>/m/y+game+does+not+abide+the+rules+of+knox+or+van+dine
Or as I prefer to say, Van Dink.
Jacob Reed
roleplaying is autistic
tho this is kinda entertaining
Ayden Powell
I'm glad people joined in on my initial shitposting, this was fun.
Cameron Jones
It’s not a catacomb, it’s a simple tomb, >>>/w/hich+only+has+one+entrance+and+exit+which+can+be+sealed+using+the+oft+mentioned+rock
Luke Clark
basically: You can't prove a negative. You can't prove the devil doesn't exist, because you can't possibly observe and know everything all at once, there could always be some place he's hiding or some reason you can't see him. You can only prove that he DOES exist, if you find him. Of course, you can't do that. But you can't prove he's not real either.
The same goes for magic, according to Beatrice. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it can't possibly be there. Just because you claim there's no evidence for it, doesn't mean you can completely rule it out. You can't prove magic DOESN'T exist, and this is how Beatrice gets Battler to even start talking seriously about whether magic exists.
It's a completely ridiculous argument that would never fly in an actual debate of course. But for a game about a logical conflict between magic and mystery it fits in.
Carson Sanchez
Then....
《Blue》
Tch.
Dame da.....UWOOOOOOH
RONOVE, VIRGILLIAAAA, ANGEEE TASUKETE
I-I can't think of anything...! Not like this...
Isaac Peterson
Pathetic
Matthew Fisher
youtu.be
Are you ready to accept Christ now Battler?
Landon Diaz
Wyatt Russell
I have an idea, Battler. This may seem like a strange argument, but what if Christ really did rise from his grave and ascend to Heaven to save mankind from sin? It wouldn't be so bad to live in a world where that is the case. You could be forgiven of your sins, in his never-ending mercy, and welcomed into the kingdom of eternal life. All you have to do is sign this contract, see? Come on, your family is waiting for you in Heaven.
Jose Morales
Jason Long
SHUT UUUUUPP! I'm thinking...!
《Blue》Jesus never existed, the Jesus inside the tomb was merely an illusion!
《Blue》 The rock didn't entirely cover the exit, he could've fit through the gap and have been dragged out!
《Blue》 Lara croft saaaaaved hiiim!!!!
William Hall
I always think she has a nazi armband on for some reason
Landon James
To be fair, you're not that far off the mark.
Lucas Miller
And now, we have almost reached the end, the time for the curtains to be lowered!
Who will prevail?
Who will fall down?
Let's see this amazing show, everyone!
Liam Kelly
Three, just three more posts!!!
I won't lose, I won't give in, BEEAAAATOOOOORIIICHE!!!
《Blue》 The tomb was a lie. He was only put in something resembling a tomb. The walls could've been made of paper or pasta, anything! He rose out with a tackle, breaking a wall!
Xavier Walker
Elijah Parker
Pu ku ku ku..