WTF Yea Forums, you told me pic related was shit but it turned out to be the best FPS ive played...

4 was unnecessary and had potential storywise

Starting with reach would be stupid since 3 almost acts as a sequel to 3's mechanics and sandbox.
Starting with games from first to last to when they were made is the only correct way.

I see what you did there and respect it, but I would also like to inform you that you're gonna have a bad time.

>Reach was shit
>nobody cares about the story
Well, there's your problem. You're retarded.

>implying the halo story wasn't pretty good until 343 shit the bed

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>caring about halos story while liking reach's story
What a retard you are, reach is known for fucking up the story.
Its only saving grace is the campaign gameplay.

bloom and armor lock, no fuck off

>nobody gives a crap about halos story

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And you personally promised not to suck any more dicks, but you did.

Right, yeah, as they were released chronologically.

My man. Armor, too, 343's Warframe designs are fucking disgusting to look at.

Explain how Reach fucks up the story, you lost me there.

Bloom was irrelevant in Reach on consoles due to bullet magnetism. If you had a problem with Armor Lock, you're an impatient dumbfag. Prolly a CoD player.

Close but still based

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you must have low standards because the game is boring as fuck.

halo is actually very good, especially if you co-op played that in 2002

Honestly, I don't care how anyone rates the HALO games, so long as 4 and 5 are eating shit at the bottom.

What other FPS game is fun?

>how does reach fuck up the story
The books. Also ignoring that, how the fuck does a covenant force sneak onto REACH of all fucking places. The most heavily militarized UNSC planet other than Earth, maybe

Halo 2 is Halo CE but with buildings

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>as they were released chronologically.
No dumbshit, then you should start with HW1, reach is a sequel to 3's gameplay it should be nobidies first halo game.

you're a casual armor lock probably saved you so many deaths from me

bloom doesn't belong in an arena shooter

these mechanics combined lowered the skill gap of the game

>there's ayyliums
>you shoot them
Wow

Personally, the books are always second banana to what we see in the mainline content. For HALO, that's the games. Until these new cucked movies came out, I would've said the same for Star Wars movies, but times have changed. HALO's books are great, and I still need to finish reading all of them, but they're a background concern to the games.

Reach had some good levels and ideas for armor customization
but armor lock just fucked all balance

>bloom doesn't belong in an arena shooter
Good thing Halo isn't an arena shooter.

>Yea Forums said this game was shit
I was in a thread fucking YESTERDAY and an user called this the best shooter of all time, and several replies agreed with him. Stop baiting. Of course it’s great, it revolutionized shooters. Now all of them use 2 weapons and hitscan only.

It was before reach

Oof it's normies like you that destroyed the video game industry.

It never was.

You can boil any game down to that, also you're retarded

it is though, good luck with the English language

actually more accurately it stopped being an arena shooter at reach so you're almost right

armor lock allowed shit kids to stall for time, and bloom nerfed players who were good at hitting consistent shots

>normies
Youre just as much of a normie for liking HL, which was equally as destructive as halo for the FPS genre if we go by the average purists point of view.

How many "wtf bros I thought CE was a 100/10 game" have we had?

DBL yikes

Are you really defending armor lock?
it was so fucking annoying to have to wait 5 seconds to get the kill i should have already have moved on from
and holy shit the armor lock melee combo was the dumbest shit

Cope more, your literal who game isn't relevant & never will be

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>shooter that happens to take place in arenas
>"arena shooter"
not even him but that's not how it works

shooter that has the mechanics of arena shooters, somehow not an arena shooter

do I have to copy paste the definition before you scurry out like a bitch

What even? Released chronologically, as in when the games came out. So:
CE > 2 > 3 > ODST > Reach
I'm not even concerned with the Wars games when talking about the HALO series, even though I love 'em.

>thinking someone defending Armor Lock means they used Armor Lock
>thinking HALO is an arena shooter
That's a special kind of fucking dumb you are.

I disagree, but mmkay.

That's some pretty dumb shit to say with no explanation.

Waiting that time to kill someone with Armor Lock is the equivalent of watching someone slowly figure out a joke. It might take a lil' bit, but then the punchline hits them and it's even funnier. It's too shit to be a Get Out of Jail Free card, and is easily outclassed by the Grenade Launcher if you wanted to use it to EMP vehicles. It's shit, people bitch for no reason.

>shooter that has the mechanics of arena shooters
It has one mechanic in common with arena shooters.

>weapons/powerups spawn in fixed positions
woooooooooow what a great arena shooter

armor lock was for people to stall for time when they lost gunfights, if you weren't a low skill shitter you would know that

do some research on what an arena shooter is and come back, or preferably stay off v because you have a low iq

it has many mechanics in common with arena shooters, make a list and come back to me

>It has item pickups
>?????
>profit

wow almost like it had the mechanics of an arena shooter, but there are more, you could do some research and get back to me on that

You're an embarrassment. There's no other way to describe this level of casualness.

do more research and stay off v, you don't belong here

Oh, Hi Steam PR!

So is this coming out soon?

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SPV3 version 3.2 releasing tomorrow
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Where's your list of mechanics that Halo shares with arena shooters?

hey do some research and get back to me

>getting mad when someone admits they lost
Get over yourself, their shields don't even recharge while they're in lock. You can do anything you want while they waste time.

You're telling everyone to do research and make lists of shit it has in common with arena shooters, almost like you want us to fight your argument for you. You're being a pussy-ass faggot with no actual points, and you know it. Fuck off.

I've played both genres a great amount. That really is the only thing Halo has in common with AFPS.

only 4 and 5 might qualify as afps games, faggot, and that's a hard might on 4

by today standards haloCE is unironically decent

hey man do some research on arena shooters and get back to me, you'll figure it out eventually, but you might not have the brains for it

armor lock rewarded players who made bad desicions, they would armor lock till their team showed up and saved them from certain death, if you stayed to hunt for the kill you would be out manned

maybe if you played the game you would know that

So don't stay and hunt for the kill, you fucking idiot, move on. They used a shitty, weak armor ability and sacrificed something like Sprint, Evade, Jetpack, or Drop Shield just for 5 seconds of pants-pissing and hoping the meanie that nearly killed them goes away.
It's only real use is destroying vehicles that ram you, and even that just means that the driver stops to laugh at you before running your stupid ass over.
>implying I never played Reach
You might just be the dumbest motherfucker alive.

2>3>1>ODST=Reach>4>5

you seem to be ok with the prospect of not being rewarded for out playing people

it was a shit mechanic, who by your admission only rewarded bad players who lost alot, any skilled player would be more useful with any other ability

Yeah, but it doesn't reward them nearly enough for me to be frustrated with it. I love Armor Lock because it's a badge that tells me "THIS GUY IS A FUCKING IDIOT", and I love it when people wear those badges.

As opposed to, say, Pyro in TF2 where any degenerate shitstick can go on killstreaks by breathing.

it could be amusing sure I'm not debating that, when you destroy the guy and his backup doesn't show up its hilarious, but when they do show up its complete bullshit, armor lock combined with bloom turned the game away from rewarding accuracy positioning, and sprint made grenades less useful, so you're left with something that becomes a cluster fuck that manages to alienate players who spent so much time perfecting the mechanics up till that point

reach could be fun but no way in hell was it the best halo game, any time you're going on a tear you have to remember to stop shooting, oh wait armor lock stole my kill and the retard brigade showed up, guess I better run now

everything in reach nerfed individual skill

>grenade spam not being effective
Halle-fucking-lujah. Forces you to throw 'nades intelligently, doesn't it? Shocker, that.
>armor lock combined with bloom turned the game away from rewarding accuracy positioning
Citation needed.

I love how the single fallback argument that people like you have is that Armor Lock prevents you from getting a kill right as that guy's entire team shows up. Motherfucker, if you're off fighting someone alone right when his whole team shows up, what the fuck are you doing, anyway? It's even more of a game than something like Team Fortress 2 is, in that there's vehicles 'n' shit that's most effective when you have more than just yourself. I really don't care about a little loss in personal skill when actually playing as a team in Reach is one of the few times that teamwork has been genuinely enjoyable to me, even with a pack of retards.

even more of a (team) game*

I never got the magic for Halo. I played 1 and 2 coop with my brother and they were just fun simple shooters. That's it. I liked Timesplitters Future Perfect more.

>Forces you to throw 'nades intelligently, doesn't it?
No, because Reach's grenades had the damage of CE and the fuse mechanics of 2 & 3. Your main weapon didn't deal damage, so they were even more necessary than before.

when you do throw grenades intelligently it's rewarded my armor lock, or someone sprinting to get away, or someone jet packing away

it actually disincentivises you from using grenades

the best strategy was usually run in with 4 retards with armor lock, and or sprint with an assault rifle, a strategy that takes less skill and accuracy

armor lock in particular didn't reward you for hitting shots and playing well, one guy would armor lock, then the bloom would kick in, then his team is right there, so you literally have to run, or you die, or bloom will make it impossible to shoot, your opponent made a bad desicion and was given more map control because of it

the game disincentivises using intelligent positioning and hitting your shots along with intelligent grenade usage, and incentivises you to run directly at your enemies and use armor lock

>"Your main weapon didn't deal damage"
>Using the AR over anything else in the game
>Assuming that having a weak starting weapon makes grenades suddenly x10 more important

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>coming from all the classics.
Sure thing, retard.

I think he means your main weapon didn't do damage because of armor lock

>>Using the AR over anything else in the game
The DMR was shit too, and took almost 2 seconds to kill with.
>>Assuming that having a weak starting weapon makes grenades suddenly x10 more important
Yes. When your gun can't kill people fast enough, you need to soften them up a bit with a grenade first. Grenades have always and will always be a huge part of Halo's gameplay.

Halo was already hated upon when it was released. But I quite enjoyed it as well, at that time.

But I actually think Titanfall 2 is the best FPS, despite it's short campaign.

flight 2 when

Can't you just throw a plasma grenade onto someone who's armor locking? I seem to remember being able to do that.

Titanfall 2 is the best sprint/advanced mobility FPS. Old Halo is the best console arena FPS.

>it actually disincentivizes you from using grenades
Making the times when a good throw works all the more rewarding. And, again, the less 'nade spam there is, the better, as far as I'm concerned.
>the best strategy was usually run in with 4 retards with armor lock, and or sprint with an assault rifle, a strategy that takes less skill and accuracy
Then you're still working with 4 retards, and whatever questionable benefits they gain from Armor Lock will be cancelled out by the fact that they're fucking retards.

>The DMR was shit too
Imagine being this retarded.
>Grenades have always and will always be a huge part of Halo's gameplay.
And Reach tweaked that, according to you. Another reason for it to be my favorite.

Nah, they bounce off when thrown directly at the person. No reason you can't lay it at their feet, though.

the weapons took long to kill, then you add bloom making them take even longer to kill, then you add armor lock, and your opponents are literally impossible to kill

you are disincentivised from using any of the tools at you disposal, the tools that have worked so well in every halo prior to this, and you are incentivised to run directly at your enemy with your whole team with no regards for position and abuse armor lock, a strategy that takes a fraction of the skill and accuracy

This is why sprint+double melee was such a valid tactic. Nobody could pop your shields in the time it took for you to reach them, so you got a free punch to be on equal footing at best.

imagine 4 average less skilled players than you in every category being able to beat you because of a shitty gimmick that literally makes them invulnerable when they lose

it's ok when a game makes every mechanic that took skill irrelevant, and makes everything that doesn't take skill viable, sounds like a shit take buckaroo

>Imagine being this retarded.
You're doing quite a good job at that yourself.
youtu.be/G5Ju13yiVNI
Feel free to count the frames. It takes about 18 frames when you pace the DMR. 18x4 is 72; at 30fps, it's going to take nearly 2 and a half seconds for a kill.
Before you act retarded again, you don't count the first shot because there is no delay there.
>And Reach tweaked that
By giving them CE damage and H2 mechanics?

I play through the Halo CE campaign on legendary like once a year, its perfect. The enemy AI still impresses me to this day.

AHEM FUCK GOLDENEYE FUCK CS FUCK HALF LIFE FUCK HALO FUCK TUROK FUCK TIMESPLITTERS FUCK COD FUCK TEAM FORTRESS FUCK ENEMY TERRITORY FUCK OVERWATCH FUCK UNREAL AND FUCK CASUALS.

and fuck quake, fuck shooters

This honestly.
If halo is shit then the whole shooter genre is shit aswell.

Honestly I don't get the Halo hate. I loved Halo 1-Reach, but also liked the classic shooters they seem to tout so much. Can you not like one without liking the other? I just like video games and Halo games are generally good ones.

>Baiting the 343niggers
Sly dog, you
Happens to me too. OG Halo is just so polished despite all its development shortcomings, always a blast to go back into and just shoot shit.

I thought Halo 5 was alright desu. Not great or even close to Bungie's work though.
That said I can't stand Halo 4, I hate everything about it.
I just wonder who the retard thought sprint would be a good addition is.

KYS CASUALS QUAKE IS BASED

have you played 5's story mate? that shits ass

Good, and while you're at it, don't come back.

>not enjoying quake AND halo AND goldeneye
disgraceful

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Yes but I'm talking about the gameplay, I don't care about 343's fanfiction.

>2
>autistic melee lunging
>humanized aliens
>enough bullet magnetism to curve BR bursts around buildings
>much less open levels
>BR makes 90% of weapons useless
>almost CE

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wait is that like the first doom game???

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Reach sucked and 2 was not that good. How many times will I have to tell you people?

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aight thats fair, the gameplay was pretty sold a nice change up

>Never trusting Yea Forums again.
why trust Yea Forums to begin with? nobody here actually plays games

dont shit on my boys spartan strike and assault

>halo wars above halo 2
opinion discarded

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>literally anything above 4 and 5

Leave.

i bet you like cs 1.6 too casuals.

FUCKING CASUALS

>4 and 5 above low/shit tier

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what happen to master chef
why is he sitting in an egg chair

Beat all the games solo legendary.
>CE
+ no magnet melee
+ I like the health mechanic
+ assault rifle and shotgun are actually good
- limited weapon sandbox, they don't actually give you the shotgun until 343 Guilty Spark
- Hunter one shot bug
- vehicles handle like ass, no boarding, indestructo-hog, love tap splatters
>2
+ more weapons and vehicles
+ more enemy variety
+ vehicles can be boarded and have health
- heavily nerfed pistol, NO assault rifle, and the "shotguns have an effective range of 3 feet" meme which gives me cancer
- dual wielding is another shit meme
- Master Chief is the weakest thing in the game, he sucks so much he makes vehicles worse by being inside them
- health bar is gone too so you feel like a bitch, as if the armor does nothing besides power your shields
- Jackal Snipers
>3
+ more weapons and vehicles
+ equipment is neat
+ added pure form flood, more scarab fights which are fun to board by launching off a ramp in a mongoose
+ rebalanced a lot of shit that was AIDs in 2
- assault rife and shotgun still fucking suck
- no elites
- still no heath
>ODST
+ has health
+ engineers are cute
+/- pretty much same as 3
>Reach
+ Armor abilities aren't cancer in campaign
+ The only game where you fight every single Covenant race
+ has health
+/- pistol, AS, and shotgun are a bit better but there could be more improvement
+/- still more weapons and vehicles, though sadly the hornet and brute stuff got cut
- bloom
- no scarabs

All in all I'd have to say ODST >= 3 > Reach > CE > 2.
The only one I see massively overrated is CE, I guess because zoomers want to impress oldfags by liking the oldest game, but don't realize oldfags hate or pretend to hate Halo on principle. I also played 4 but that was irredeemable garbage so I won't rank it.

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>what happen
343 Industries

Can you imagine how big the female Spartans must be?

I think sticking the shotgun in 343GS was a decent decision. It snaps any level with less open areas in two.

is he going to be ok

I fucking hate the fortnite crowd co opting the word bloom. It was a graphical term for 12 years only but suddenly that’s how we describe the spread of bullets when firing.

I would say this if there were energy swords in the game.
The first room of "Truth and Reconciliation" on Legendary made me want to kill myself.

in Halo 6 you mean? because of the new Chief reveal? I was thinking the exact same thing. My body is ready.

holy fuck i didn't even notice he meant it like that until now
i weep

Do you mean the ship, when you get beamed up?
It's one of the roughest parts of the game but it's still manageable if you immediately dash into the corridors the Zealots are spawning from and have a full stock of plasma grenades. Lure the swordies to you and stick them if they're gold, shoot them in the face if they're camo. I'd say the hangar bay area is way worse.

*makes you go through the same shit levels twice*
Halo 2 dabbed all over this piece of shit in terms of single player, and the vehicles evolved from "complete joke" to "fun" as well.
And Halo 3 is the greatest FPS ever made.

Are you guys new?
It was commonly referred to as reticle bloom during Reach's release.
bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/3296417
The hangar bay is awful too, but hopefully you save sniper ammo and get overshields.
Gravity Lift room is basically hanging out in those hallways frantically backpedaling from Elite Ultras because they're either going to stab you or blow you up with the stick. As an aside, Jackal Majors were often more frustrating than the fucking Elites.

Not likely.

Jackals in CE were a piece of cake 70% of the time because they were hugely susceptible to frag grenades, which were useless against most elites and just not worth using against most grunts.

They 'll be so badass

emphasis on the ass

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But what will we do without the master chif

Play Warzone and buy Rec Packs.

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but
the ceif

>Nobody gives a single fuck about it

Not too long ago IGN ranked it the third best game ever made. The games still regularly place high up in best games of all times lists. The games to this day still get a ton of fan modding/wad support. The games still to this day have a passionate dedicated community playing them. This is more than just about most FPS I can think of including for Halo CE on PC.

2 is fucking insane on legendary so I don't think it's fair to compare it like that

you also didn't comment on the level design or story at all

>It was commonly referred to as reticle bloom during Reach's release.
and it was retarded then, too

please stop casuals goldeneye, turok, halo, timesplitters and all other console shooters suck.

said the underager

Ok that's fine just don't pretend like it was started by fortnite, I thought you were underage.
>it's unfair to compare all the games on legendary, make a special exception for 2
no
>level design
I don't really have an issue with any of the series level design, it's usually secondary to combat quality. For example, you could say taking a grav lift into a room full of brutes is shit level design, or you can redesign the encounter and balance it properly.
>story
Irrelevant, but I guess 2 > CE > ODST > 3 > Reach.
Truth randomly changing his entire character was lame, Reach is kind of a mess.

it's absolutely unfair, the way 2 is balanced on legendary is fundamentally incomparable with how it's balanced in the other games.

You should be comparing them on heroic.

Halo 2 was so rushed that the build we got was effectively cobbled together in 9 months or so. They didn't actually have time to test and tweak the difficulty which is why legendary is so hard.