Yea Forums, only a few days left before time to upgrade our gaming rigs. Have you decided on which processor you'll buy?
The 3600x will be the new king of gaming, but that 3700x is looking pretty good for general purpose. Even that 3400g will likely be good enough for your casual gaming experience, without destroying your wallet.
i'm moving up from the 7700k, so it's been a long time comin'.
>buying hardware at launch you deserve everything you get
Carson Cook
I'm fine with my i5 4690K for now.
Ryder Howard
So on intel CPUs, the i7 and such are different lines, the first number afterwards is its generation, but what do the rest of the numbers mean? Who even named this shit
There are no tangible benefits outside of having faster bandwith for things like PCI-E SSDs. If you want to save money you can just get an X470/B450 board which has 3.0 instead.
Adrian Torres
>WOOOOOOOOOOW ALL THESE FEATURES I WILL NEVER USE unironically kill yourself, or alternatively, buy a b450
>faster bandwith for things like PCI-E SSDs. sweety, that's more than enough reason to 4.0. granted, it's one of the few reasons that anyone cares about, but it's a very big one.
Jaxon Carter
I'm keeping my 1800x that I got for 250$ for the next 5 years at the very least.
So? It's the biggest new feature. The VRMs on older boards are decent enough even for the 3900X and 3950X depending on the board
Unless you move huge 4K+ video files around your PC 24/7 then there is little justification for it. Most gamers won't extract any benefit from it, which is kind of the point of this thread
Parker Brown
Why a fucking "gaymer" should care about a cpu when even with a fuckin 2010 i7 you can still ultra almost everything if you have a decent gpu? Are you stupid?
Dominic Rivera
>ancient 4core cpu >2019 unironically kill yourself, you poor nigger. this isn't a thread for homeless faggots that think their 4/8 is suffice.
Cameron Davis
Because i7s are pozzed and hyper-threading needs to be disabled unless you want computer AIDS
Isaac Reyes
>which is kind of the point of this thread fair enough
Hudson Long
i7 don't have hyper threading anymore?
Asher Hernandez
It still does, but if you enable it you risk having security issues due to how HT is designed on intel processors.
Jason Cruz
believe the 9th gen removed it, but they still perform really well without it
Sebastian Myers
When are the new GPUs out? I want to see if they can really compete with the RX 2080, I doubt it tho
Tyler Morris
The same day
Hunter Gray
Now that AMD has made a good CPU architecture, when are they going to make good GPU drivers?
Only two things keep me from buying AMD: The worse than awful OpenGL performance (mainly for emulators) and the overhead on their D3D11 drivers. Will Navi change these things?
Why do people give a shit about boost speed? Its only done for a few seconds. Having 5ghz boost would not change the speed of any substantial operations, be it gaming, rendering, compiling, etc.
Oliver Gomez
Due to consoles being 8 cores, most engines are being optimized to take advantage of as many cores as you can throw it. Most games on UE4 will benefit from simply just more cores, and as time passes shit will move further in this direction. You already benefit a lot today from 4c/8t over 4c/4t on many games/applications.
Jack Anderson
no
Jordan Wood
The problem with AMDs cards is their architecture. Navi's architecture is different but is still based on the god awful GCN instruction set, so it will remain to be seen how much better it is.
Cameron Gonzalez
Would there be any point to getting a 3900x for vidya? Even just for futureproofing memes?
Christian Gonzalez
Not really, 3900X is more for if you do gayman plus video editing or 3D modelling type stuff. Future-proofing is a myth and retarded
Brandon Hughes
dota 2 cant be played with vulkan api though, visual bugs everywhere
Lucas Martin
>felt for AMD meme >GPU fans don't spin >temperature reaches 90ÂșC >fans spin at 100% for 5 seconds and stop again >impossible deactivate idle mode >afterburning, speedfan, wattman can't do anything >have to play vidya with annoying 100% fan speed noise, high temperature and low FPS
FUCK AMD.
Sebastian Martinez
oy very shut it down, this is anti-semitism...
Logan Hall
Given both ATI and AMD's history with divers, I don't doubt you'll see a 15-20% performance increase over the span of the next 2-3 years for the card. But that said, they're still over priced for what they are and I do also worry that the GCN portion carried over may bite them in the ass.
Oliver Cooper
Thats all controlled by your motherboard user, not your CPU
Jaxon Jackson
Nah. Just bought a 9900k.
>bro just WAIT
Jaxon Scott
patience is a virtue nigger
Bentley Peterson
I have a RX 480 that microstutters horrible on the latest update. I had to go down to a 2 year old driver for my video card to run normally. I like AMD but seriously fuck them sometimes.
Joseph Campbell
Even the lowest Zen2 is stomping 9900kys is benchmarks, good that you're finally owning the fact that you're a cuck though.
Jacob Carter
>buying a $500 CPU that gets beat by a $199 CPU in both single and multi-threaded tasks lmoa
>blames AMD for GPU >Thank God I bought an Intel CPU ???
Daniel Reed
>buying AMD parts Way im seeing it is that I spend a few extra hunned now and save myself alot of tinkering and headaches later Time is more valuable than money and AMD parts waste time.
Blake Jackson
Intel's offerings look much more attractive, especially considering 3rd Gen Ryzen has even more latency than 1st Gen (meaning bad gaming performance, input lag, audio latency/stutter, and crashing)
It seems my B350 board can handle a 3800x just fine so I'm going with that. Next gen games are going to use a ton of threads, and I want the Ryzen with the highest freqs too. Then my 1060 will have to sit tight until it get a worthy successor.
post more irrelevant spic benchmarks sir, /g/ doesn't have enough
Alexander Kelly
>nano seconds >NANO Fuck off.
Dylan Murphy
cope
Justin Butler
I hope it's not a gigabyte. My friend bought a veg56 gaming oc and that shit was overheating and crashing all the time, turns out it was niggerbyte's fault for fucking up the vrms, not amd.
Oliver Stewart
>spic benchmarks Guess brown sticks together, huh pajeet.
Landon Morris
Nanoseconds is crucial in applications like games retard, that doesn't change the fact that the spic benchmark was poorly done however
Xavier Diaz
>meaning bad gaming performance, input lag, audio latency/stutter, and crashing that's not what latency means in this instance, pablo. but I'm sure you got a small fraction of Yea Forums with it.
Alexander Scott
It's Sapphire. It was working good, AMD fucked up some update like said. I am already using the oldest driver I could find in their site.
Carter Watson
They're notorious for producing temperamental budget hardware for a reason
Lucas Thomas
Yeah, back when Bulldozer and Polaris were around Times have changed gramps, but enjoy your overpriced garbage
Christopher Sanders
>32c/64t fags ALREADY coping when highest TR sku is specced at 128c/256t
At least you can play terraria or something on it.
Grayson Martin
>le racist may may sure showed me nano second for each instruction, these add up to actual delay that can be felt even while moving your mouse It's exactly what it means, that's why AMD has been trying to band aid the latency issue by cramming more cache into their CPU's, they are even calling it "Game Cache" now. But nobody asks what happens when you need to access data not in the cache, stutter and crashing is what happens.
Oh, so you're most likely a retard who made in ill-informed decision and now you're salty at the company and its products instead of your own incompetence. Again, cope.
AMD isn't the problem though, it's (You) I can buy an i3 processor and 4GB of 2133 RAM and pair it with a 2080ti, is that Intel's fault for my games running like shit or is it my fault for being a retard? Protip: it's the latter
Justin Torres
>I can feel the additional less than one frame of input lag No you fucking can't, google the word "placebo".
Thomas Brooks
First gen Ryzen would have been good, but for holding out you'll be rewarded in spades.
If you want to go first gen though 1600s are like $80 now. For 12 threads.
10ms, is more than 1 frame at 120HZ, and you can feel it during constant movement of the mouse, just like you can feel smoother mouse movement at 120FPS vs 60FPS
Jonathan Gomez
retarded ESL nigger
Levi Bell
I could be wrong, and you'll definitely let me know, but doesn't CSGO favor Intel? And who is ripoff hardware unboxed literal who?
Jack Cooper
The chart you posted says that ryzen has an additional 7 ms of input lag over intel. 7 ms is less than one frame unless you're running 240hz which I seriously fucking doubt you are.
Mason Torres
If he didn't care about input lag he wouldn't have made into the E-Sports League user.
Juan Collins
>time is more valuable than money Please. You are probably some neet
Blake King
>could be wrong, and you'll definitely let me know, but doesn't CSGO favor Intel? Yes but the test was limited to 300FPS on all chips, the framerate was the same, but input delay was different Test done by a dude with a high speed camera
Landon Myers
Yeah, that was the issue. I bought a weaker unstable CPU and paid the price in time. Live and learn, I guess. I made an informed purchase this time around.
Nolan Watson
coping here, but maybe CSGO has an Intel fastpath ;)
Isaiah Flores
Still rocking my 4770K and probably will for the next ten years
Jace Nguyen
Well I'm glad you're acknowledging it's your own stupidity rather than the company's fault. We all make mistakes building our first PCs, user. But now you'll be left with a CPU that performs as well if not worse than the competition's lowest priced SKU, and that still makes you look like a dumbass. Sad, but hindsight is 20/20.
Matthew Sullivan
>the framerate was the same What about frametimes? FPS is becoming a weaker and weaker metric.
Jace Ortiz
I want to do GPU passthrough, so I'm hoping to get the 3700X unless it ends up costing too much here.
Moving up from 4440S
Christian Rogers
When's AMD getting raytracing?
Kevin White
Tick tock, Intel. Or in modern terms: Tick tock tock tock tock tock, Intel.
Lucas Green
Good points, but I'd still rather not risk having lower grade hardware inside my rig. Intel has it's own host of problems but at least this build doesn't make me want to tear my hair out. Only thing I'll be dealing in with AMD is stock.
James Wright
They already support it, just look at the next-gen consoles
Alexander Powell
stupid question but will it be compatible for this motherboard (b350 pc mate)
The first couple rows give you approximations of certain SKUs at stock and OC, then check your mobo (it's on there) for VRM support.
Also keep in mind you'll need a BIOS update to support 3000s. I have an MSI board and they pulled the beta bios for it so let's hope they come back in full force.
Owen Sullivan
>only play 2d and indy shit nowadays I am fine with my 4670k MB is dying though, might have to do it later.
Justin Jackson
>CPU that performs as well if not worse than the competition's lowest priced SKU
Consider this is without the magic "fine wine" windows update that gave Zen's a 15% boost, and the intel chips are lacking mitigation patches. Still, looks fairly blow for blow to me.
Did he show the ram speeds for this test? High speed/low latency ram is extremely important for Ryzen systems
Jaxon Flores
>1080p >2019
Easton Butler
feels bad when a 2400G can be had for less now while being a bit more performant
Ayden Garcia
AMD's official E3 benchs, blame them for realizing most of their install base plays at 1080p and under.
Isaac Perry
be a smart consumer and buy the new amd cpus and gpus next year
Wyatt Wright
Also doesn't help that at higher resolutions the GPU becomes the bottleneck.
Ian Barnes
Nigger I've been waiting to upgrade for 5 years, I'm not waiting any longer
Julian Hall
If you go by the AMD roadmap you'll be waiting forever cause they'll be releasing better stuff next year every year
Evan James
>$399 >to compete at gaming AMD's really grasping aren't they
Ayden Bennett
shut the fuck up pajeet.
Matthew Ortiz
1080/1440 will remain the popular resolution for a very long time. e-sport titles drive the market, and even some competitive pros play at 720.
4k market is smaller than 1080 and 1440. there's no reason to pander to richfags with more money than common sense, when the largest group are still running 24" 60hz panels.
Aiden Morales
don't worry you'll (((match))) intel one day, maybe
Bentley Smith
cope
Zachary Richardson
that all you got? no actual defense?
Owen Nguyen
cope :^)
Owen Kelly
you sure are, amdlad :^)
Henry Sullivan
cope àČ _àČ
Colton Jones
last word
Michael Martinez
i7-9700k First number represents the generation (9) Second number represents the grade and line (1-3 is i3, 4-6 is i5, 7-8 is i7, 9 is i9) Third and fourth numbers are specific to that model (Usually 0, unless there's a special in-generation revision) K means whether or not the CPU clock speeds are locked by Intel.
>swapping a 7700k >for gay-ming never go full retard
>muh cores what part of "never go full retard" don't you understand?
Angel Hernandez
cope
Samuel Lopez
>he bought a 7700K that's going full retard in and of itself
Evan Lewis
2600k/2700k are still decent gaming CPUs to this day. Only now are they finally showing their age.
Jacob Butler
Who even upgrades their CPUs anymore? I'm playing on a like 6-7 year old i7 6700k, at 4k and 60fps. It's all about GPU and RAM, the latter you should've had 16GB since ~2012.
Nolan Moore
>Who even upgrades their CPUs anymore?
No one using Intel since it is pretty much guaranteed you'll have to buy a new mobo every time.
Adam James
Funny how Intcel regressed in performance after releasing Sandy Bridge
Aaron Fisher
>dude, check out these leaked rumor graph youtube tweets that say the thing I like is better than the thing you like >no ignore those official numbers my rumored leak chart forum post says otherwise
Adam Cruz
>6-7 year old i7 6700k 6700k was released in 2015.
I can't believe Intel is going to become the poor and stupid man's choiec.
Adrian Stewart
>4 threads in 2019 zen save me from this abyss, I can't take the stuttering anymore
David Bailey
>Buying incel >2019
Don't be a retard guys. Less money for intel means less money for jews. Less money for jews means less niggers in western countries.
You don't love niggers, do you Yea Forums?
Nolan Mitchell
The caveat being that while the 3600 performs slightly better than the 9900k at the same clocks, the 9900k can still clock a lot higher make it a much faster CPU.
Austin Jones
>goys >poos either way you lose
William Taylor
>muh clocks cope
Adam Evans
What with a fucking chiller?
Josiah Robinson
Still rocking a 4690k & 1060 6gb. I'm not really playing anything demanding so I'll keep on waiting.
9900K would have already beaten it then, since Passmark doesn't care about the actual freqs they're at. The 9900K could be at housefire tier and passmark will still mix in its score among the averages.
Justin Cruz
Goyim means non jews.
Anthony Ortiz
Is the only difference between a 3700x and 3800x the clock speed? Could I just buy a 3700x and overclock it? My 2500k is starting to feel long in the tooth and it's either one of those or a 9700k.
David Campbell
It still may not if the 3600 has better IPC, which the benchmark definitely implies it does. And besides it's a $199 CPU, if it even comes within 15% of the $500 9900k then Intel should just blow their brains out at this point
Man im pretty jealous of you guys with i7's now but its been 8 years and my 2500k needs a replacement you're playing it smart though no need to replace something that works.
Matthew Anderson
>AMD getting destroyed by Nvidia Super >doubles down on Zen 2 >against Intel CPUs from last year KEK E K
Adam Nelson
>BFV most demanding PC game out there rn >can still play with 75+fps with all maxed out settings on 1080p monitor with my 2600 & 580
yeah, nah this is great but I'll just wait a few more years.
Chase Bennett
it's almost as if they leapfrog each other, dumbass.
Nicholas Peterson
>implying 10nm will come out within the next 5 years L E L E L
Hunter Perez
who /1600to3600/ here?
Christian Sanchez
>leapfrog I'd say this is more a case of Intel angrily shaking it's fist at a smug Lisa Su on the moon.
Xavier Sullivan
cpus are rarely a choke point in video games, anything that can hit 4ghz on 4 physical core or higher will run any game in existence....with a good enough gpu.
if you want workload and cock size discussions fuck off to or linus tech tips
Luis Brown
I was thinking about 2600 and sit on it for like 4 years maybe.
John Johnson
>Super >destroying anything but Nvidia's stock price >also implying Intel have a response to Zen 2 before late 2020 which by then Zen 3 will be out
should still wait for the 3600 because the hype, and to be benches, will continue pushing prices down. back to the 1600 for a bit, it's weird to see a 6c12t cpu at $80 and destroying anything else at that price point.
Anthony Ward
Your actually wrong the stutter is horrible I have this cpu at 4.9ghz and 4 cores 4 threads no longer cut it. If all youre doing is playing old games you should be fine but now in newer games especially fast paced ones the stutter is fucking shit. I have to close shit beofre I play any new game because the cpu is being maxed out by games shits not feasible anymore.
Mason Carter
don't forget emulation, rpcs3 and xenia like threads. and all of them love single core performance.
Nicholas Watson
Yeah I'm waiting for 3000 series so that the price for 2600 maybe drops a bit. Need to buy MB and RAM too after all. My setup is 7 years old.
Jace Bailey
so we're at that era of the decade again where amd is on the top of cpus
i rather wait for the next intel processors, i went from p4 to i7 920 and it was glorious
Jace Garcia
>4.9 >doesnt name cpu >no mention of gpu no need to lie on the internet bro, its ok if you are a poorfag.
Jordan Rodriguez
this logic is fine, but now you must know by the time those exist (intel's "tick"), amd will be on their "tock" for ryzen 3000. for intel to be competitive again they'd have to far and away beat 3000s out of the gate, and have an answer for 4000s or whatever.
Liam Baker
I'm in no rush. i7-4790k is doing okay. By the time I decide to upgrade I'm sure Intel will get their shit together and actually figure out 10nm or a stretch but even 7nm, and bring back hyperthreading muh exploit shit, which obviously won't happen until like 2022~2024 if not then yeah I'll probably get a 3700X
It's a $700+ investment because I have to buy a new motherboard alongside the CPU and the RAM since 4790k+Z97 is DDR3 and I've gotten comfy with 16GB, would need to get equivalent 16GB but DDR4-3200 CL14 and who knows where RAM prices will go
I am buying an RTX 2060 Super to upgrade my 970 however so we'll see how much it bottlenecks for VR performance
Landon Rogers
3700x seems like the middle ground and a good choice
Ryan Sanchez
All processors have hundreds fps in csgo, it's impossible to have such different lags.
Evan Green
>chugging along on an fx 6300 >waiting for 2600 price drop
if you do productivity and not just gaming then yes. if you want to future proof for games maybe then yes. otherwise 3600/X is for gamers, and all ryzens can OC anyway to make up single threaded performance deficits.
Jack Richardson
>wait for the next intel processors they will come but you might be waiting till 2024ish (5 years from now) since the latest internal intel memo indicated "we're currently fugged, management sux, these guys with 1/10th the employees and no money keep whooping us in 2/3 markets" good time if you want a thin light long battery life laptop from intel though but in server and desktop its gonna take a while (see: time from bulldozer to zen)
Angel Perez
>4 cores is enough nigger, you can stop posting now
Asher Jones
4.9ghz 2500k I stated it in the post you replied to GPU is an r9 390. That's besides the facts that 4 cores don't cut it anymore your 1% mins go to shit with 4 cores.
Camden Martin
>2600 price drop microcenter was selling all cpus for crack prices just the other day. sale might still be going on, actually. had a 2700x for $199.
Camden Allen
There's no 10nm desktop parts, they're sandbagging until they get 7nm ones. There's rumors that they'll pay off Samsung for 7nm stuff.
Their GPUs will annihilate AMD but get dabbed on by high end Nvidia cards.
Mason Cook
Only reason I might get a Ryzen is for PCIE4.0, but when the 9900KF is the same price as a 3900X, no real reason to go Ryzen otherwise for games.
I'll see benchmarks, but knowing AMD's track record I assume Intel CPUs will wreck them in most stuff that isn't productivity.
Sebastian Jackson
Retard question: I have to replace my DDR3 with DDR4 but buying 2 x8Gig is not optimal for my wallet right now. So if I buy only one stick and it would be in single channel, will I be able actually run games and shit or it won't start at all? Like wtf is going to happen? I know it will be half the potential speed but even that half is at least twice faster than my current RAM speed.
I dont think they will this time Intel has been stuck on 14nm for so long theres only so much more that can be improved on that node.
Joshua Walker
it will work just fine. just consult your motherboard manual to see which dimm is preferred.
Matthew Myers
>till 2024 >implying Big corporations like Intel move fast when cornered.
The timeframe between Pentium /D and the first Core2 processors was like 2-3 years. Intel most likely has a new arch ready but they don't have their 10nm or 7nm yet.
Ayden Peterson
The 9900KF is no different than a golden sample 9900K that can all core 5.0GHz. We already have those numbers, there's nothing to discover from Intel. And even then, frequencies can not be compared against different architectures. Zen 2 at 4.5GHz might match Intel's 5, we don't know yet.
Colton Peterson
The meme that's going around that a 3600 beats a 9900k is fake as shit being shilled around by AMD fanboys
However the 12-core and 16-core Ryzen will instantly shit over the 9900k, including the higher clocked 3800
Thomas Gonzalez
whoops, thinking of the 9900KyS.
Joshua Long
Aight, thanks user.
Zachary Williams
that 3900X has enough cores and cache you could run two VMs and demanding multicore games in both it is literally better than some server shit from a few years ago I'm still tempted by threadripper simply because of the silly shit you can do with ALL the pcie lanes in the world but yeah most people aren't into that 60 lanes of PCIE 4 is just insane
Luke Rogers
I just got an Intel 9700k myself. I dont trust AMD because they're run by chinks who put spyware and steal your information all the time. Also AMD always lies about their benchmarks.
Daniel Clark
>that 3900X has enough cores and cache you could run two VMs and demanding multicore games in both Why would that be relevant for actual gaming though?
Hunter Lee
>new IP in the thread yeah I'm sure you're the man of reason
Nolan Rodriguez
too bad a vdecent motherboard that you can OC with is going to be 450 to 600 dollars
Justin Baker
>would that be relevant for actual gaming I like to think of a future where you buddy comes over to visit and you can just spin up a guest VM with him and you both get top tier pc performance on separate screens out of the same box
Kayden Harris
how wrong you are, but nice try. also another new ip, welcome from the front page!
Alexander Hughes
yes i am wrong I was being nice becuase i just woke up and don't want to get into an arugement already the aorus master is 1100 usd crosshair is going to be 750 so, its actually way more
John Bailey
if only there were other boards, and if X570 wasn't a requirement....
Kevin Edwards
Was pc gaming always this cringe?
Logan Peterson
OH WAIT
Gavin Ward
>comparing brand new CPU's to intels last gen
>lying about prices, the 9400f goes from 120$-150$
>paying off websites to purposely slant test results
yep, its another AMD launch of their shitty cpu's, they can't even match clockspeed anymore LMAO
Jace Cruz
Funny that you think only AMD spy on their customers.
> matching clockspeeds with different architectures dude
Daniel Howard
no, these fools got tricked by clever marketing campaigns into actually thinking that one company is good. teh whole pc master race thing is a meme, most likely started by corsair
Justin Murphy
Meanwhile on Intel's release: >comparing brand new CPU's to AMD's last gen >lying about security improvements >paying off shills to purposely slander AMD yep, it's another "it's fine when Intel does it" launch, they can't even beat AMD in single threaded performance anymore LMAO
Joshua Richardson
half cope, half seethe faggot
Thomas Jackson
My i7 4790k is still good. I'll upgrade next year.
Ian Reyes
play real games or stop talking
Juan Richardson
You know I'd love to see a real world test on cpu cache and how it affects performance. Like picking a CPU and testing stuff with different ammounts of cache enabled.
Ryan Scott
i play in 4k and paying $400 for +5fps isnt worth it
Elijah Fisher
>not waiting for glorious 3950x and not getting a 2080S in the meantime absolute plebs
Oliver Lopez
depends on the workload. as long as whatever task has what it needs to in cache it'll be faster. this is why people meme about latency and why you always see tests go until they reach system ram.
Luke Barnes
>games you play aren't real wow that's like too deep man
Henry Foster
literally me
Cameron Gonzalez
there should be some reviews that cover that on gamersnexus or level1techs that last one is part of why high core count CPUs that use chiplets rather than one big die don't fucking suck on windows anymore after the recent patch
Gabriel Robinson
What PSU manufacturers are preferred generally? Need a new 500W.
careful. there's a brand of corsair that's known to be pretty shitty. can't remember which one, but try not to cheap out.
Matthew Turner
>this isn't a thread for homeless faggots you are right. you are the proof it is for retarded faggots.
Nolan White
CX
Colton Parker
The shitty corsair PSUs are the ones not made by Seasonic. The easy answer is just go seasonic.
Jose Flores
>want new CPU >realize i need a new mainboard >realize i need new ram >realize i need to re-install windows and do some other complicated shit so nothing gets fucked up WHY THE FUCK DID I FALL FOR THE PC GAMING MEME?
Cooper Perry
Those are the VS series, Ibelieve. They're rebranded chinese pieces of shit.
Christopher Parker
>Zen 2 tops at 110W or so >RTX 2070 / 2080 at ~250 max whats the problem, even a pcie 4 ssd is not gonna do shit if your PSU is actually close (80-90%) load it's the most efficient
Gavin Allen
>>realize i need to re-install windows and do some other complicated shit so nothing gets fucked up You literally don't need to do this with windows 10. Been swaping from laptop to laptop for the last 3 years.
Carson Price
> retard buying a 1000w psu for his epic gaming setup!
fine with my R5 2600 and RX 590. Buying into AM4 now unless you already have a board is probably stupid since they'll be moving on to a new type next year
Jose Sanders
>they'll be moving on to a new type next year They said motherboard for ryzen 1000 would last 4 years. If that means 4 generations of ryzen than the ryzen 4000 should still work. I'm betting that the 4000 series will be Zen 2+, just like 2000 series were Zen+
Ryan Miller
>they'll be moving on to a new type next year got even a shred of confirmation on that? even if they change to ddr5 they can still use am4
Jayden Cox
yes, they said last year that AM4 was supported until 2020. You can easily google this and you'll see what I'm talking about
Tyler James
if it was so easy to google you could have saved yourself some time and just linked it
Caleb Torres
why do I have to spoonfeed you?
Grayson Kelly
why can't you back up what you say yourself? not everything is spoonfeeding.
Ethan Rivera
You're welcome to not believe me, you'll just be wrong come 2020
Zachary Bailey
yeah maybe I'll care to just google it by then
Isaiah Gonzalez
what does cache do in layman terms?
Charles Lewis
I'll upgrade my GPU and then wait. My CPU is still holding out fine
Cameron Richardson
depending on the workload it just gives faster access times to things they may need to store or read. as the tiers rise from 1 to 3 and then to RAM the access times get slower, in nanoseconds. more cache means more things can hang around before reaching RAM.
Leo Barnes
>You literally don't need to do this with windows 10 Can someone confirm? Do I really just need to change my mainboard and it works?
Adrian Stewart
It does but its recommended to a do a fresh install every time. On the other hand, that's a bit of a meme too because there's no actual hard numbers on how much of a difference it makes. I started out on windows 7 installed on an HDD that was cloned to an SSD and upgraded to Windows 10. One day I just said fuck it and did a fresh install and didn't really notice any difference.
Connor Fisher
*motherboard
Alexander Smith
When you change hardware windows just sets up the new devices and that's it. The only bad thing are the remaining hidden devices and drivers that will still be installed on the system. You can either leave them be or uninstall them later.
Keller works for Intel now, so hopefully they'll get their shit together with Sunny Cove or whatever comes after.
Tyler King
THANK YOU BASED JIM
Xavier Evans
This is an upgrade on a previous architecture with problems fixed. If anything, this is perfectly refined and tested.
Jacob Edwards
>Unless you move huge 4K+ video files around your PC 24/7 then there is little justification for it. Most gamers won't extract any benefit from it, which is kind of the point of this thread Nah. In 1 year you will see games EXPLODE in drive bandwith requirements due to consoles supporting customized high bandwith embedded SSD solutions.
Jaxson Thompson
How are they driver team so bad that the open source community managed to build better opengl drivers on linux?
Robert Reyes
Keller's work on Ryzen seems good enough for me to upgrade now, I can't wait until later as Bannerlord's right around the corner. I just need the Jim Keller of GPUs now to avoid getting jewed by Nvidia, fug.
Parker Diaz
cheers mate
Ryan Rodriguez
4790k still gives me over 120fps on almost all games except ubishit. It wasnt worth upgrading all these years. Thag 3800x thou