>3 people made Hollow Knight
How?
3 people made Hollow Knight
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It shows. That's why the designs are bland derivative funkopop tier models
By being actually competent and hard working. 99.99% of people in the vidya industry are replaceable code monkeys or dime a dozen "artists".
Reddit.
setting up orange juice stands
3 (three) meaningless buzzwords
Proof that you don't need one gazillion dollars and a thousand team members to make a game with soul. Literally.
Look at it vs anything EA made.
the characters look like they're from a flash game but Hollow Knight was a way better aesthetic than most AAA games
Money literally money money. Rich or funded. If you have many money you can DIY don't even need anyone else
potassium
Damn what a deal, but that moth looks suspisious, but then again what a deal
What do I do? I get really thirsty from mining all day, and my throath is getting sore from all that singing
Even big companies only have 3 people who do any fucking work. Everyone else is worthless management, HR or diversity hires
They are from a flash game
The Knight was in an old game on Newgrounds
Animation is the obvious thing to point out, because it's extremely basic.
There's also barely any colour and the characters are really simple.
You can also tell that they cut a few corners with transitional animations and with the lack of mechanics like ledge grabbing.
it's almost as if AAA games are bland, soulless cash grabs
DOMA DOMA DOMADOMADOMAAAA
fuck ledge grabbing in all platformers and games with platforming elements. It just makes successes and failures for jumps fuzzier, and in this case would have been completely invalidated by the mantis claw two hours in.
reminder that this game is bad and you've just let bribed e-celebs convince you it's good.
They embraced the void
Riping off dark souls
I don't know any e-celebs other than Furious Ferdinand and I'm pretty sure he never played this
>it's ok when Yea Forums convinces me instead
e-celebs are too casuals to play hollow knight
The jumps are terrible and stiff in hollow knight, so it would be a welcome mechanic for me.
I killed an enemy near the entrance of the mine thinking it was just another generic enemy but then I heard the dying voice of the singing miner at the start of the game
Did I fuck up?
Yep. You killed myla
Aussie shitposting attitude,
>bet you pooftas cant make a game
>yeah cahnt?
Willingness to rely on pre-made engines and programming frameworks instead of needlessly reinventing the wheel under the illusion that it will be "more authentic" or they will somehow be better people for doing so.
>murdering cute singing bug wife
user what the fuck is wrong with you
Making a lot of assumptions here. I played it, concluded that it was average and moved on. None of the shills have been able to cinvince me otherwise so far.
No.
By means of not inventive anything and making an explicitly "been there, done that" game, thus factoring r&d out of the equation?
Remind me, BTW, does HK use its own engine - or Unity?
is there anyway to not kill her?
Artist ran a movie animation studio. That's why graphic are that good. And the gameplay is decent but has some problems like dropped inputs.
How far did you get? Did you beat False Knight?
Yeah, not killing her.
graphics, dubs, marketing and other stuff bloat heavily the budget of games. add the incompetence of most developers and you can see how 3 competent people focusing on substance can make a 50k game actually work while developers with 100+ people and million of dollars just dump trash.
Cave story was made by a single guy with no budget, yet competence and hard work made it a nice little game.
Just don't attack her and you don't kill her. She goes insane part way through the game anyway, becoming a hostile NPC. You can't "save" her, if that's what you mean.
Don't you get it? It allows them to make a fuckton of content and animate everything without much of a hassle.
So it's a large pile of shit. Hear ya brother.
No, I quit somewhere right before. I beat the clone and all 3 arenas pretty easily though and lost all interest partway through the circus DLC.
I see, so your opinion is valid. I guess I should uninstall the game.
i'm not sure why anyone would look at hollow knight and think it required more than 3 people to make
i really like the artstyle/aesthetic but that only requires one person
You won't regret it. I'll give silksong a shot on release but I'll be ready to pull the plug early if it's just more of the same.
False Knight is the first boss you fight, the one in the Forgotten Crossroads in the big suit of armour who jumps on you.
I wasted 73 hours of my life, why didn't you tell me it sucked sooner?
pasneed
>every area feels the same
>combat never progresses beyond "mash X to win"
>music has the same ominous tone throughout
>story is a mess
>stag stations are so poorly placed it's often quicker to walk from one end of the map to the other
>more backtracking than any other Metroidvania in existence
>can't warp between benches for some inexplicable reason
>map doesn't update until you rest at a bench
>required to waste a charm slot just to see where you are
>terrible areas like Deepnest drag on forever while interesting areas like the beehive are underdeveloped
It's a solid 7/10 game with an admittedly impressive art style dragged down by poor design choices.
That post is a solid 3/10 bait
I don't know their names. I figured the final boss would be a play on False King Allant like how everything else was "borrowed" from souls.
The big mantis was my favorite fight, but nothing else grabbed my attention.
>liking Traitor Lord who is literally just the same as a regular enemy type but bigger
Gross
autism
the oc has two blobs and dildos for hair
clearly the game didn't take much work to make since it looks so bad
>can't warp between benches for some inexplicable reason
>giving the game a 7/10 is considered bait
retarded fanboy
Are you having a stroke? What the fuck are you even saying
Where the fuck do you spend money in this game.
I've bought everything from the map store, regular store and the charm store other than 2 slot upgrades I dont have enough charms to be able to buy and I'm sat on 6,000 geo that I can't do anything with.
Upgrading your nail and making fragile charms into unbreakable ones.
Something good happens if you put all that money in the bank.
>6000 geo
Go get the grimm troupe and realize what a piddly peasant you truly are
Dont tell him faggot
>is clearly bait
>gets called out
>still tries to save it
>it gets worse
find the grimm troupe
>MUH DESIGN
unironically kys, you're the reason AAA devs don't even try with gameplay anymore
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Where the fuck The Abyss scene music you fucks, you better have some good music for the Hornet
It's easier than you might think when all you're making is a 2D sidescroller through a prebuilt engine
You couldn't do it in a hundred years.
>It's easier than you might think
It really isn't. If it would be, we could get good games like Hollow Knight every now and then. It takes some pretty fucking good developers to makes something good out of it.
with unity
>every area feels the same
no they don't, literally
>combat never progresses beyond "mash X to win"
giving you more abilities would make the game easier
>music has the same ominous tone throughout
not really, the music for a lot of bosses are really cool
>story is a mess
i agree, it's supposed to be an enigmatic storytelling like in dark souls, but i didn't really care about the world or lore
>stag stations are so poorly placed it's often quicker to walk from one end of the map to the other
>stag stations are so poorly placed it's often quicker to walk from one end of the map to the other
>map doesn't update until you rest at a bench
changing it would've made the game easier, git gud scrub
>required to waste a charm slot just to see where you are
i agree, it's unnecessarily punishing
>terrible areas like Deepnest drag on forever while interesting areas like the beehive are underdeveloped
ye, deepnest is a fucking shithole
>cant complain about the map and travel aspects without people crying "git gud" when it isnt skill but just tedium
you can enjoy a game and criticize aspects of it you fags
>combat never progresses beyond "mash X to win"
>giving you more abilities would make the game easier
Have we played the same game? Because I remember using a whole load of different skills in combat.
wow bro dark souls + metroid wow what an imaginative idea!
That would explain why the game is so trash
I get that the game is good or something
but goddamn this artstyle makes me sick, I legit can't look at it for more than 10 seconds I start feeling ill and want to throw up it's so bad holy shit
gameplay is ok i guess
It's called soul
autism
the 3 abilities require souls, which can't be used frequently like the regular attack for example, and the nail arts or whatever they're called take a shitload of time to charge, so most of the time you're better off with more quick slashes
Are you a functioning human being?
Like do people like you function in our society?
I don't know about that, but it is incredibly dull ans boring.
anyone could make a game like this in a 100years, probably in less actually. the most time intensive part would be the graphics and animations
Is this game worth 9 bucks?
I liked Ori and Dark Souls, will I like this?
>anyone
You couldn't. No matter how hard you tried.
It will give you enough content to keep you busy for a couple weeks so yeah it's worth 9 bucks.
>You couldn't. No matter how hard you tried.
why
How do I enjoy this game? It's obviously well executed, the map layout is what bothers me
Because you can only tear things down and never create. Your only weapon is hate.
>the most time intensive part would be the graphics and animations
Wrong.
>How do I enjoy this game?
You don't. You're the same kind of people who cry over Sekiro being too difficult. You're just complaining about a different aspect. The game is not for you. Move on.
wouldn't she technically be saved after true ending, you just never get to see it
Sekiro, Nioh, and Bloodborne all have great combat though. What are you implying
What about the map layout?
>sekiro
>great combat
glorified QTE
>Because you can only tear things down and never create. Your only weapon is hate
but that's what your doing right now
i didnt say anything about the game. im not even the first guy that started the comment chain.
but the game was made in like 4years by 3 people. they even switched the engine at some point and the game is multi platform
1 person working for 100 years only in unity releasing for 1 platform. could make a decet platformer
Passion
But with a twist
>tfw at Watcher Knights right now
wew lad
what a godawful boss in this great game so far
WTF I thought Yea Forums loved based hollow knight? What happened Yea Forumsros?
This but unironically
Okay, I'll explain it to you. There's a bag of candies you buy, but you find out that you don't like 1-3 flavors inside. Next time you go shopping for candy, it's unlikely you get the same bag again, because that would be fucking nuts and waste of your money. You buy a different bag instead.
Dark Souls is complete garbage compared to HK and the devs didn't even play DS until Hollow Knight was already out. Try gain incel tard
>the devs didn't even play DS until Hollow Knight was already out
not that guy but what a pack of liars lmao
>these hands werent meant to create, squidward, they only destroy
Ledge grabbing is gay
Fortunately for you, they're putting a ledge grab into the sequel
What the FUCK was her problem?
>The jumps are terrible and stiff in hollow knight
For you.
Why are there so many blatant shill threads for this game? OP doesn't even seem like he's inviting any sort of meaningful discussion, this is just massive faggotry.
It shows
bafanadas
inb4 this devolves into bait central... oh wait.
i feel like i attained some kind of second virginity after reading this thread
git gud scrub
It's fun af, that being said they certainly didn't bring nothing new to the table in terms of metroidvaina style platformers, it feels like a ripoff with new assets. The artstyle is kino though
I'll never understand this retarded argument. I never played DS before Hollow Knight and since people were comparing the two so much I decided to give it a shot. A fucking checkpoint system in the form of bonfires/benches and losing your currency after death which can be recovered at your death spot is about as far as the comparison goes and it's not what made Dark Souls really be Dark Spuls. The multiplayer elements of DS are not there, nor are its RPG elements, nor its healing system. DS relies a lot more on attrition while HK's healing simply requires you to do damage to enemies so runs between bonfires/benches are not comparable whatsoever. They play extremely different. Can you people seriously stop spouting this retarded bullshit?
Don't fall for that bait as old as time. Everyone knows it's 2D games like Salt & Sanctuary which are ripping of Souls.
Ikr? How can 3 people suck that hard at make a fucking game
Fucking losers
They should have tried being professional cleaners
>which can't be used frequently like the regular attack for example, and the nail arts or whatever they're called take a shitload of time to charge
There are literally charms for both of these constraints, particularly the soul charm which is obtained at the same time you get your first soul ability.
Mage build is perfectly viable, especially in early-mid game where it does far more damage than your nail.
It's still the best damage dealing build in the late game too. He's clearly so trash he uses up all the soul for healing so he never gets to actually use any spells.
What is the point of abhorrent shitposts like this. You are not "trolling" anyone. Its not humerous or original. Its just... shit.
I could have done it in XNA (I have not tried Unity yet) in a few months, maybe a year.
But I have zero ideas, im just a good programmer/decent graphics designer.
My point is, its not the amount of people, its the actual, combined time spent. Skill decreases the time though.
Computer Systems Engineer btw
Eat shit soiboy
>I LOVE SHITTY BUG GANE SO MUCH AND WUNT TO FUG BUG HAHAH
>SO EPICCCC
OH, IT SHOWS.
With that said, a well made game with some obvious good planing, grit and hard work put into it.
>1 person made Bloodstained
Your point?
Is that good?
Bloodstained is trash though.
Yeah, it is. The game was in development for 4 years and it was worth the wait.
It’s a flash game
soulless bug game is trash though
Uh, guys?
bananassion
it's an extremely simple and soulless game
Something that looks worse than unity store assets sure has plenty of soul.
>every game needs to be like Dark Souls
Just give me the silksong release date already you fucking aussie cunts.
Ended up giving up because of the dark souls death mechanic. That shit doesn't need to be in every goddamn game. Last thing I want to do in a metroidvania is grind enemies that drop ten coins each so I can afford a flashlight
>grind
you can just try not being trash
But you get all your money back if you go get it, and there's no reason you'd die on your way back to where you died unless... unless you're...
OH GOD LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
what do you mean "how"? it's a nice game, but not impressive in any way
Bloodstained came out
Shitposters are now trying to use Hollow Knight to shit over bloodstained and start fights between the fanbases
soul
And Salt and Sanctuary had two people (mostly one). Small teams theoretically produce higher quality, maybe due to few cooks in the kitchen.
Which one is it then?
It has a lot of content in general. It's an extremely well rounded game which is a bit rare on small indies that usually rely on unique mechanics/something to sell.
Of all games being hated on Yea Forums, hate of some individuals towards hollow k***ht is mind boggling. The most legit complain imo is combat which evolves too slowly. I suppose most people who dislike it because they didn't play it much. Combat experience is ok and above average if you compare it to other metroidvania. Even better than some old and popular once, but old games are still praised. Maybe it is OLD GOOD NEW BAD faggots? Makes me think.
Lots of my favorite ones are only done by like at most 3 people.
ESA
Rabi-Ribi
Valdis Story
S&S
HK
Psst, most people here don't hate Hollow Knight, they're just tired of the constant shilling and not being able to have a discussion without it being made into a pissing match. I haven't seen a fanbase as obnoxious since zommers discovered Earthbound.
*less
or maybe some people just don't like it and don't have an ulterior motive. why do you get to decide what criticism is legit or not?
No. They just talk shit because they haven't got a better thing to do with their lives. Most of the Anons trash talking HK haven't even touched the game. Don't overthink it when you've in the internet. There are tons of sad and broken people here, trying to make themselves feel better by causing reactions on others. Think of a spoiled child who keeps crying until someone pays attention to him.
>reddit word
4 if you count the composer
Ain't a metroidvania but Rain World was only made by like only two people as well.
>talking negatively about my favorite game means you haven't played it and you're sad and broken
ok man, whatever you say
>talking negatively about my favorite game
For fucks sake. There's a huge difference between posts with constructive/negative feedback and posts like "Hollow Knight is shit".
Is it really hard to believe? There's definite similarities, but none that Dark Souls had invented.
Aussies will do anything for a pack of VB and a 12 keno cards
My problem with Hollow knight is that it brings absolutely nothing to the genre and yet it's heralded as the best of the best by poorfags because of its length.
HK had no ambition outside of the size of its environment. It never gets good level design wise by bringing original levels, it never gets crazy with the upgrades, it's just fucking long with countless bosses.
That's not what metroidvanias should be, it's not a genre about having pretty visuals with a semi open map, it's about rethinking the 2D space and have fun and new ways to explore.
HK is an indie copy cat of the castlevanias post SotN but 4 times as long. that's pretty much all, and it's quite sad.
Butthurt much? If a game is shit then calling it shit is all it deserves
so what's the difference between saying "this game is great" and "this game is shit"? why are you okay with the first one, but the second one means you're all these negative things? none of those statements have a constructive aspect, they're both opinions. you're just not okay with one of them because it offends you
>actually this game should be exactly what I want it to be
based retard
Can't you think by yourself for a second? Posts saying "Hollow Knight is best" and "Hollow Knight is shit" bears the same amount of significance. Fucking. Zero.
How?
There there. Tell Mommy where it hurts.
>why do you get to decide what criticism is legit or not?
I am not trying to decide anything, who is falseflagging, shilling or just shitposting. I am just wondering. I understand that people dislike things, but shitposting in HK threads is disproportional and very stable in my opinion. I never visited first threads to avoid spoilers. I don't see anything obnoxious in recent threads besides of ragefaggs. Even if it was directly proven that game is being shilled, how does it reduce it is quality?
But why is hollow knight being picked on so often without any particular reason? It is a niche game. I am not surprised when shitposting occurs in any AAA game or some provocative indie.
>It is a niche game
It isn't.
But that's Ori
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but how does the latter mean you're sad, broken and looking for attention?
also, don't change it from "great" to "best". you'd NEVER have a problem with a post saying it's great with no argument, and that's because you agree with it
How is Ori anything like Dark Souls?
Every game has to bring something new, huh. Makes me think about university... All bribes, no credit to the soul where it's due
Ok I agree, it is not niche. But I don't think that this disregards rest of my post.
what I think is that a lot of hardcore fans and people that seriously disliked it clash, creating an endless cycle that devolves into low tier shitposting. it's gone too far with HK
Silksong has ledge grabbing.
I beat the pantheon with a mage build, you're full of shit. And honestly I would say its easier than a quick slash build
Hollow Knight is the only noteworthy thing to ever come out of Adelaide.
also many bosses are quite bad. their movements and gimmicks are too basic for how much health they are given, so you typically learn how to fight them efficiently within the first three minutes.
You're most likely to get a reply especially in Yea Forums by saying something people enjoy is shit. That's why. It's not rocket science you know. And sure. That doesn't mean user has to be sad and broken, but the thing you're stuck still thinking over what I said, as simple it is, I must have got pretty close. Take a day off.
Push through the pain.
A S C E N D
yes because if they don't then I have already played that game. I had already played hollow knight before evn touching it and I couldn't shake this terrible feeling of deja vu. Also I hate its emotional music trying too hard to move you.
The art direction is fine, but the game design is terribly bland and the level design uninspired. It's really pissing me off to read all those Hollow knight fans who seem to have discovered the genre with this game.
Now every metroidvania will need to have 20+ bosses, be 40 hour long and live up to stupid standards just because of this "new" fanbase.
I can't wait to see the reaction to silksong just to see these same retards understanding it's the exact same game.
Ofc, quality>quantity. Now tell me whats wrong with HK bosses? There are few boring bosses, I can't think of any horrible bosses from top of my head.
>That's not what metroidvanias should be
>it brings absolutely nothing to the genre
Isn't this contradiction. It looks like that you have some personal reason to dislike that game and come to the thread anyway.
>Wojak
Right this way sir
FFXIV tranny telling basedboys to commit suicide, peak irony
It is bad because it is easy? Can you give an example of game which has bosses who function in a different manner which results them in being not "quite bad" and gimmicky
but I like HK lmao. what I'm telling you is to accept and ignore people that don't want to post actual arguments instead of fueling an endless cycle of shitflinging
Complaining about the lack of original substance and complaining about the emphasis on the form is more or less the same thing.
I don't hate it, I just find it terribly bland. What I hate is its loud fanbase thinking they've found the best of the best of a vidya genre they barely play.
It's fucking sickening how Yea Forums has turned around in recent years and unironically claims to love indie games.
>I thought Yea Forums loved
You thought wrong.
would you rather love AAA big company games?
are you a literal idiot? people change, consumers change, markets change, get on with the times and change as well
>It's really pissing me off to read all those Hollow knight fans who seem to have discovered the genre with this game.
Why does it piss you off? Why do YOU have to be obnoxious about the fact that people just started with developing taste in the same area as you? Hurr that's not real one or not as good as something I like. Wouldn't it be more logical to act friendly to those people and try to show them why other game is good, too? Same goes for soulsfags, who are obnoxious about DSIII lovers.
indie developers kept making far more entertaining games than most of the industry with none of the microtransaction bullshit.
people here are very thirsty of belonging to some secret club and super eager to call others out for not "being worthy" of that secret club
they are basically the same shut in unfuckable idiots they were in highschool, but now they also think they're adults
>What I hate is its loud fanbase thinking they've found the best of the best of a vidya genre they barely play.
See post above. This is not even a multiplayer game for fucks sake. How does this offend or even affect you in any matter? Are you upset that some games you love are not appreciated as much? That's dumb, to me these people who praise HK have much more common with you than majority of people in the world. This is so twisted to me. Do you just consider HK fans taste inferior to yours or what?
Because that's the optimal amount of people required to make a good game.
>1 for coding
>1 for art
>1 for music
I knew hollowknight was a metroidvania and I was incredulous that some people were referring to it as a soulslike. Having played it, I really think that designation makes more sense. Like souls it has metroid elements but they're all secondary.
>Do you just consider HK fans taste inferior to yours or what?
This goes without saying, yes. I've played more games in this genre and can immediately tell that outside from being shiny, HK does nothing new or interesting, but because children are entertained by the LOOKS JUST LIKE MY FUNKO POPS designs, they will flood in and claim it's good. It's really frustrating after a while to be the only competent person around.
I played it for 70 minutes and never found interest to continue.
I just hate the hyperbolic statement.
>I really like this game!
Is not the same as
>This is the best metroidvania ever.
Especially when the latter goes with "I don't usually play metroidvanias, but..." or "I've never played a metroid but...".
I'm fine with people liking things, I'd just prefer if they weren't so loud.
Hollow knight is one of the best sellers on switch. Don't you think it will give mixed signals to other devs?
The slippery slope is right there.
>Why isn't my metroid 30 hour long?
>I'm not putting 40€/$ in Bloodstained because it's only 15 hour long
>Super metroid has only 8 bosses? What a shit game
I really have mixed feelings with Hollow Knight overwhelming success. Especially when the complete opposite, Rain World which breaks every single standards got poor reception.
Based retard falseflagging like an idiot.
Team Cherry is more like 1 artist + 2 coders.
Larkin isn't officially part of Team Cherry.
Where is she getting that juice from?
You are just seeking people to talk to, bro. But your insecurities won't allow you for a simple chit-chat, so you search for reason to communicate. Simply put, you are just trolling. You just are trying to justify your seek for attention. You still can relate to people, it is not late. I wish only good for you.
Except Dark Souls is a boring slog whereas Hollow Knight is an engaging and diverse world.
>It is bad because it is easy?
depends on WHY it's easy.
>Can you give an example of game which has bosses who function in a different manner which results them in being not "quite bad" and gimmicky
the problem was that they are were too basic. they can be gimmicky too.
ys vi, oath and origin are a few examples of games that feature bosses that are not basic à la hollow knight.
I suppose you are right in a manner, about how it can affect genre in a future. I totally understand your point now. In the end it is all matter of taste and preference which also a mute point. Wish I had more time to talk about games, gotta go. Good luck
>while HK's healing simply requires you to do damage to enemies
Shitposters ought to be comparing it to bloodborne if they really wanna bait hard
They weren't bogged down by ethics and intersectional gender affairs departments.
I don't know where the fuck to go anymore. I cleared out everywhere I can possibly go. I think the last ability I unlocked is the super dash thing and I have no idea where to go. Only openings on the map I can see are in the raining city but I have no clue how to unlock it.
How many people seriously claim Hollow Knight as "the best metroidvania ever"?
When you're in the city, go as far right as you can go. Then keep going. It took me ages to figure out I could just keep swimming.
What happened to these threads? After Mulanafag left they became really comfy and now it’s just a maelstrom of shitposting and arguing over whether the game is shit or not?
Hollow Knight is jack of all trades, master of none.
Still enjoyed it though, looking forward to Silksong since Hornet's moveset seems more interesting than the Knight's.
Outside of Yea Forums and not just shitposting? A lot, and not just on reddit, neogaf and the likes. It seems like it was a revelation for the poorfags never buying anything that cost over 20$
Why would you not count the fucking composer? Who else did OP not count, designers, artists and programmers?
WHERE ARE THE CUTE HOLLOW KNIGHT PICTURES? HURRY UP AND POST THEM ALREADY!
Me.
Here's the credits: youtube.com
"Additional" is pretty vague, but yeah, there were a few other people involved in development. It's still a pretty small team.
Three people didn't make Hollow Knight. It may have been marketed/advertised as such, but the team who worked on the game was obviously bigger than just Ari, William and Jack -- mainly people from outside of Team Cherry.
why is the knight so fucking cute.
>WHERE ARE THE LEWD HOLLOW KNIGHT PICTURES? HURRY UP AND POST THEM ALREADY!
ftfy
No trannies
meant for
>aesthetic
Buzzword
by having actual working oeioke instead of having 100's of pink & turquoise haired dykes pretending to be designers and "idea guys"
Stardew Valley was made by ONE guy
working people*
I mispressed some keys
they had a vision and followed through with it
Honestly neck yourself, i'll this artstyle over faux retro pixel shit or 3d models any day of the week.
Being alone for so long and watching everyone you knew die is probably not that great for your psyche
Hollow got popular and a similar game features a waifu as a main character
one guy designed and programmed the game
one guy did the art
one guy did the music
That's really all you need, 3 separate skill sets require 3 separate people
I'm at ending #1 and I cannot defeat the Hollow Knight. It's been five days now, I want to cry.
>Say that Hollow Shit is a badly designed game
>Suddenly the Hollow Shit dick sucking brigade come out of the woodwork, shilling for FREE
You faggots are worse than the chinks that shill Epic
Such wonders await you on user. Push on
what's wrong with the game
Apparently attacking something people will like results in them defending it
Who'd have thunk it. Water is wet, 1+1=2
Be sure to check out some different charm combinations. Maybe a magic build?
>confusing a criticism and hostility
You learned how to farm yous for any game
Lost Kin is my favorite vessel.
Is your nail fully upgraded? And maybe spend a few runs not trying to hit him and just analyze his attack patterns
Anons, I have been programming and making art for my game. But where the FUCK do I find a musician/composer for music? I dont want shitty 8 bit boop bops from garage band. I am willing to pay them. I make good money. But not hundreds of thousands level money.
>durr, why ppl disagree with my contrarian opinion?
user we're all very worried about you
Vessel is CUTE!
Did someone say BLOODSTAINED?
Depends on the game. You could browse soundcloud for freelance game composers like Andrew Hulshult.
No. I'm not sure where to find three more pale ore. I was spending time looking for essence but then my friend told me to just fight the boss because I'll get locked out of the first ending eventually if I don't.
Thing is I do genuinely like some 8bit-y music like Undertale, but Toby Fox is a talented exception and I doubt any rando composer I hire will churn out anything nearly as good even with a good chunk of cash. I have no idea how to differentiate genuine talent from someone who might just be ripping people off with stolen tracks.
>t. Never played a metroidvania other than HK
It's good but casuals overate it way WAY too much
More like CUMSTAINED
Well calling the game "Hollow Shit" and calling out the "dick sucking brigade" is pretty hostile, so I guess you're right.
>3 people made a game that is shit
woah...
Not weird, such a stupid game
You woudn't an evil moth
>I never played past forgotten crossroads
>I never played past forgotten crossroads
>I never played past forgotten crossroads
I'll give you one for that, though with the addendum that Team Cherry never tried to tell a story. Personally, I suspect they just opted to leave in enough blanks that someone'll make sense of it.
>I never played past forgotten crossroads
>Blatant lie
>He wants two seperate fast travel systems (look at Okami for why that's a bad idea)
>Too pussy to play a metroidvania
>Too pussy to play a metroidvania
>Deepnest >Terrible
Plus, if the beehive dragged on, you'd call it terrible too.
>WTF I thought Yea Forums loved based hollow knight? What happened Yea Forumsros?
It did, and that's why it's cool to hate it now.
Never underestimate the power of teenagers trying to fit in by being epic contrarians who hate everything that's popular.
looks boring as fuck and everyone looks the same just bigger or smaller beetle head
literal zoomers first flash art platformer
being mad at hollow knight again? you never change, Yea Forums. You cry everyday on this game, and that's because it is a 10/10
hollow knight MC character design is brilliant. but i agree the game looks really muddy and washed out.
are you upset your favorite game is a tumblr platformer made in flash with 0 character design variety and braindead mash combat hahahaha
hmm no
so you are comfortable having a smooth baby brain and bad taste in games hahahaha very good
i recommend you to lose some weight + sex
You know a game is good when Yea Forums whines about it using the most pretentious buzzwords and mental gymnastics they can think of. It's the same shit with Breath of the Wild -- both are masters at their craft, both are extremely well-designed and anyone who played either of these games can see right through the vocal minority of butthurt detractors. Really only adds to the game's quality.
that effect is more than known
You honestly type like you're not allowed on this 18+ website.
This is post is why no one takes the HK fanbase seriously
>I recommend you to lose some weight + sex
take your own advice tumblr fatty
Bought the game a couple days ago during steam sale, been meaning to buy + play for ages. ~9h in, defeated Soul Master today, holy fuck it was frustrating the annoying walk back and at first his dive attack, but after 5-6 tries I finally got his attack patterns and beat his first stage. Second stage was way easier than I expected. Really happy with myself.
Also, does anyone here play on linux? Most of the elevator sticks in the ground to call the elevator are black until the elevator comes, and then the textures appear. A bug, or intended?
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>taking any "fanbase" seriously
it is literally reskinned metroid/mario game like all Indie games
it doesn't take much effort to make a pile of shit
I recommend you kill yourself, shit smear.
lol. cant wait for silksong to come out, shown to be the same shit again, and team cherry under the spotlight as the talentless cunts that they are.
-rival adelaide indie dev
>three for free
haha it’s three for free
I have to type down to your brain level, I know hollow knight fans have never played a platformer in their life that required skill or brainpower to play
there are flash games on newgrounds with more soul, better art and skill required to beat than this faggot bug game I see spammed on this board
seething
It's a 2d sidescroller, is this what qualifies for hard to make
You want the same thing tho. The first thing.Is good and has a fan base now.
Are they people who are disappointed silk song in not a go cart game? Would be pretty fucking weird. Hollow knight nuts and bolts.
cope, bugman tranny
I knew Hollow Knight had bugs but this is riduculous
It's not really that surprising. It's not like the graphics or gameplay or anything else is particularly complex. You're just deluded into thinking "game I enjoy = big team"
You can say that to people who like the game as well
fuck I read it in his voice
It's not ripping off if it does it better.
you have a few screws loose.
>hollow knight BAD
Not at all user.
Any kind of game is hard to make WELL, user. No one can just shit out a great game with a lot of content and high level of polish.
Ah... Summer...
HK literally has the most area differences out of all metroidvanias. Each area has it's own aesthetic that's reflected in how enemies look and act, each has its own hazards and different level design as well.
>soulless indie trash good
Name 3 that aren't
Linux bug. Report it, and they might fix it. Team Cherry really cares.
Sekiro
Total War Warhammer II
Ace Combat 7
Burden of proof, user.
YOU made the claim that all AAA games are bland, soulless cash grab, YOU prove it.
Besides, we all know that it won't matter what games you're presented with. You already made the claim and you're too stubborn to admit you were wrong no matter what.
Just finished it, was halfway through when you replied. Tried to be as precise as possible, reporting driver versions etc.
Good job nonny, proud of you
why does every thread get filled with hate now?
like 2 weeks ago everyone loved this game
I see a 2d sidescroller I could have played on a website
My point was about the technical aspect, yes 3 people can make a 2d sidescroller.
I'm not even the guy who made the claim
Sekiro isn't AAA
>Total War Warhammer II
What, the expansion that they released as a full game solely as a cashgrab? Are you saying it's not shit on its own or only with all the DLCs and the first game?
>Ace Combat 7
>literal cash grab with no new mechanics
There we go, exactly as predicted.
Summer, bloodstained came out and people use it as shitposting fuel. Also the more popular a game is the more often people will shitpost about it, you also have a higher chance of having people who actually dislike it.
seething transexuals
like always
SUMMER HAS BEGUN
DROVES OF TEENAGERS ARRIVE, ALL WANTING TO FIT IN WITH THE EDGY CONTRARIAN Yea Forums CROWD
What's the last Ubisoft game you played?
Valdis Story is better faggots.
Burden of proof, user. I have nothing to prove to you.
Also, what the fuck does it matter?
Why is that?
>Sekiro isn't AAA
You dumb soulless fucks don't even know that AAA means nothing.
I'm still not the guy who made the claim so you can go fuck yourself with this high school debate nonsense. Keep being defensive though, especially after I've already proved there isn't even 3 good AAA games
What's your favorite open world game?
Oh it shows
>especially after I've already proved there isn't even 3 good AAA games
You haven't proved shit. You just threw lies and conjecture at 3 of the many, many AAA games out there. That's proof of exactly jack squat.
>What's your favorite open world game?
GTA:SA, does that matter? Fuck off with your playground arguing bullshit, come back when you've graduated high school and acquired some actual argumentative skills and your own opinions that you can support rather than just parroting others and hating popular things.
What's the difference?
>especially after I've already proved there isn't even 3 good AAA games
user shitposting doesn't prove anything. "Hurr durr it's soulless because I say so." Dumb liberal cucks are able to argue their dumbass points better than you user, let that sink in.
No, user, the SOUL is just a game mechanic.
>doesn't even like the most pervasive trend in modern AAA
>keeps defending modern AAA just to be contrarian
By the way. I'm 28 and I've simply played enough vidya to know that AAA is uncreative shit
I'm not defending AAA, user.
I'm attacking you, personally, for acting like a fool. Also, where did I say I dislike open world games? If you fill in my words for me, I'm done talking to you.
By the way. I'm 146 and literally invented video games. Your lies won't get past me.
>Also, where did I say I dislike open world games?
Nowhere, nor did I imply you do.
You only dislike modern open world games which is 75% of all AAA games
>he's so young he cannot even imagine me being 28
Okay
Explain what AAA is, user, for me please.
>3 people
>Credits are 69 people long
>Not counting investors
Good joke OP
Games with giant marketing costs funded by big publishers
No, there's no concrete cut-off point and I don't give a fuck how much that makes your brain melt
Where did I say I dislike modern open world games?
>he's so devoid of individuality he can't even imagine liking something doesn't mean you have to dislike the alternative
Okay.
You whine about hyperbole, but here you are catastrophizing over devs learning the wrong lessons from this game.
In a genre that's 20+ years old.
Comfy Knight
>Where did I say I dislike modern open world games?
>>What's your favorite open world game?
GTA:SA
>liking something doesn't mean you have to dislike the alternative
What fucking alternative are you even talking about now?
Me and I played all of them.
>that bench comic where THK gets a good end by falling asleep peacefully on a couch
please post it
>I don't give a fuck how much that makes your brain melt
Talking to retards who don't know how to communicate like actual humans doesn't make peoples brain melt user. You just easily file them into the special needs category and don't take their blather seriously.
Also, your stupid definition will include Sekiro, judging by how it's published by Activision and by the looks of things spent quite a bit of money on advertisements.
And no Total War: Warhammer 2 or Ace Combat 7 is not soulless, cashgrab or not. Kys.
why are you replying to a 4 hour old post?
are you an idiot?
>You just easily file them into the special needs category and don't take their blather seriously
Then why are you still defending your precious AAA?
>And no Total War: Warhammer 2 or Ace Combat 7 is not soulless
kek, good one
>Looking at timestamps
>Caring about timestamps
>Perceiving time as linear
What's with the sudden spike of HK shitposting?
Some people realized Bloodstained and HK are technically in the same genre. Spiraled outward from there.
why did we not get this? There's a fuckhuge aspid mother in the crossroads who for some fucked up reason is not a boss, why?