Why do boomers like Halo so much?

Why is fortnite the only example you faggots use?
Fortnite this, fortnite that, nobody gives a shit.
I guess Doom was just the fortnite of the late nighties.

they don't
halo is THE zoomer game, complete casualized console trash with no depth or complexity

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They don't like Halo at all.

Millenials on the other hand liked halo, and the older Zoomers grew up with it.

Boomers don't play halo you faggot, they play Doom 1

No, it was good

>People born in the 40s/60s love Halo.
Get outside of your room from time to time, little kid.

Gather round zoom zooms. Uncle boom boom is about to tell you a story. It's important if you're ever going to have a contextual understanding of gaming history and boomers. There's two kinds of boomers. There was boomers that were heavy into pc gaming and had already been playing online shooters years before halo like quake, unreal tournament, half life etc. These were the minority. And then there was the casual boomers that had never played an online fps game before. The only exposure to fps they had prior to halo was golden eye or perfect dark because they never owned a pc or had Internet access up until that time. When halo dropped it was the first higher quality fps game they ever played and the first online shooter they ever played. They thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. The pc boomers however thought it was a joke. It was slow, childish and nothing compared to what has going on with pcs at the time. Now some of you zoomed don't know why fps games were a big deal. For a long time fps games were the cutting edge of video game technology. Not as true today but back then it was everything. In the days before the Internet went mainstream there was a hardcore fps scene online the console players weren't exposed to up until the xbox and ps2 was introduced. Now you know. And ultimately halo fans are still considered casuals by the old school pc gamers even though like 20 years has passed. Its more funny now than anything.

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t. zoom zoom

TL;DR

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Why is the OP such a faggot?

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I think Halo is a pretty cool guy.

>Anyone over the age of 18 is now a boomer according to the underage cancerous shit that's browse Yea Forums

>Millenials
Who

Because it was good.

I dont give a fuck what anyone says, MK V is the most aesthetic mjolnir

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I don't care

It brought online multiplayer to console gremlins, also it had a killer soundtrack

>Born 1992
>Started going on Yea Forums around the early 2010s, when I was still below the age of 20 myself
>tfw it feels weird that I'm considered a "boomer" on here now

remember quakechads btfo cs yesterday and now its halo turn.

I agree

Halo 4 was 1 game. Ain't nothing slow about that.

The same reason we like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark so much, because no matter how awesome playing Quake 3 and UT are nothing beats splitscreen/systemlink multiplayer.

Goddamn the original MK V armor was great.

Unironically it's part of the media destabilization of western culture. If they can even get people of a 5 year age gap to distrust each other for that reason alone it makes us a lot easier to influence. Places like Yea Forums are hotbeds for that because the vast majority of users are dumb as bricks.

>When halo dropped it was the first higher quality fps game they ever played and the first online shooter they ever played.
Oh look, another zoomer pretending to be a boomer to fit in! Halo 1 on xbox did not have online play kiddo. Xbox Live wasn't even a service yet when the console launched. The only way to play Halo online was on the PC port.

damn pc virgins really are autistic

How can Zoomers be this dumb?

Don’t mind me, chad armour rolling through

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>boomers
they make Halo playsets for children, user. I know you're too young to remember, but games like halo 3 were infested with children who had just discovered puberty.

I think with Yea Forums, it's just that most people on here are quite young, so someone who's over 25 would be older than most other people on here.

Damn straight. The dirtbike helmet and the bulky backpack exudes an aura of realism, power, and original design.

The zoomers / boomers meme isn't exclusive to Yea Forums

Post it.

I know, that meme is all over the Internet now, but I've noticed that there's more fighting about age on Yea Forums, especially in recent times.

>The only way to play Halo online was on the PC port.

I like how you're acting like you were there and are thus an authority even though this is completely false. You didn't need Xbox Live to play games online on the original Xbox, there just wasn't matchmaking.

>SPV3 screenshot
Based.
Too bad the lead dev is a Communist faggot.

>why is the biggest game of the last few years, primarily popular among a very young audience, the example used for future nostalgia?

>Too bad the lead dev is a Communist faggot.
There's a lot more to it.

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boomers? what the fuck is going on, halo is the definition of the first sight of casual zoomers.

>t. greatest generation faggot

read again

God, Mark V is the best Spartan armor.

>MKVI helmet
>MKIV body
>we're supposed to believe this is a new model

343 needs to just stop writing lore at this point. I'd almost rather have a multiplayer-only game or some contextless, randomly generated missions than them keep raping the universe.

It's more a thing for the Zoomity-Booms that grew up with it.

>taking people's shit without credit or compensation
Well, at least he practices what he preaches.

It came out during the best era of gaming, and the best times of our lives.

we quakechads own both halo and cs babies.

Games not out yet. They could easily rewrite it.

This armor is sexy as shit.

Why is it that Elite posters always post them in almost no clothing

seethe harder

>Why is it that Elite posters always post them in almost no clothing
user...

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Well, they didn't rewrite anything to fix Halo 5's advertising clusterfuck, or give a decent explanation in Halo 4 as to why Spark called the Chief a Forerunner.

I neither have hope for a rewrite, nor the patience to read another shitty novel series that only exists to provide explanations that should exist in the games to begin with.

>good music
>good worldbuilding
>fun, open-ended and highly customizable multiplayer for LAN parties and Xbox Live parties
>memorable campaign levels
>good competitive multiplayer until Reach
Only contrarian PCfags don't like Halo because "muh regenerating shield", "muh low movement speed" and "muh two weapon limit" (which are all valid complaints for people used to arena shooters, but fucking COPE and ADAPT, niggers)

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QUAKEFAGS BTFO YOU HALOBABBIES

>both things are popular
>it means both things are exactly the same
retard

Quackdads still seething i see, go HUH somewhere else grandpa.

cs got btfo yesterday zoomer. halo will be destroyed now.

I'm not sold on the weird gear pattern in front.

Why do you care?

>boomer
Reddit. Go back.

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>all these asshurt responses without any rebuttal
hit the nail on the head

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I recently played all of Halo 5 and holy fuck what the fuck was that story

>those really REALLY badly edited cutscenes
>wait why is Buck a spartan now?
>that opening scene of Master Chief is a cooler show of strength of the Spartans than that Avengers-esque opening sequence for the new Spartans in the intro cutscene
>holy fuck the controls are ruined now why is there a sprint AND dash mechanic
>hi Master Chief
>wait why are the other Spartans here? I thought they were dead. How are you going to bring these 3 back from the novels with no explanation of where the fuck they've been all these years with no payoff or build up? Not even a reaction from Chief on seeing his old friends alive after all this time? Nothing?
>why is Palmer still doing the MCU thing where you HAVE to see her face to know it's her without the helmet?
>why is Palmer still a thing?
>shit graphics even worse than Halo 4 somehow seriously what the fuck
>Cortana's motivation makes no fucking sense. How does someone just deal with everything leading up to now, ESPECIALLY Halo 4's story, then suddenly turn around and go "yeah actually he had some right ideas" just because their rampancy is cured?
>that ending
>some levels aren't even levels, just talk to 2 people then move to the next chapter
>barely play as Master Chief at all in a game named Halo
>why the fuck does Locke not have any personality? No quips, no character, nothing. Somehow even less than Master Chief

What the fucking fuck, and from what I understand, I have to watch the short film to get a better gist of the story.

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best answer in this thread

I am surprised no one has posted what I'm about to post yet, and using Golden-Eye from 7752's post as a good example - before Halo, shit like Golden-Eye was the maybe THE best CONSOLE SHOOTER game, third person or first person; but when Halo came out on the Xbox, it was literally THE FIRST CONSOLE FPS game with LARGE WIDE OPEN environments, while still sluggish in movement compared to PC shooters at the time like 7752 noted, it boasted large long distance environments similar to a PC game. Normies fucking shit their pants. The snipes, the view distance of the incoming enemies, environment...large and vast, not just confined to shitty buildings and hallways. This was new to CONSOLE fps and part of what made Halo a huge deal....that is my 2cents pertaining to this subject.

>when Halo and Smash Melee came out, those graphics were fucking NUTS, i was in the 4th grade blowing grenades on the ground looking at the dirt flying around; and the bowsers flames making reflections off his shell and ripply skin texture - that was NEW at the time for consoles.

>the other big deal about Halo was Xbox Live.........what now zoom?

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>thread about Halo/Halo2 on Xbox
>post about Gaylo5
>not even made by Bungie
>awful fucking game
>cant even get the lore correct
>like they didnt even bother playing the games
>boo boo nigger barf barf boo

Brian Reed

That's what happens when you hire Brian Reed

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>motorcycle helmet
For me this makes looks out-of -place, like I can't even register this as combat armor of sorts.

Brian Reed? Is he from the novels or somewhere else entirely?

I only recall an interview where someone said they deliberately hired people who had no experience/didn't like Halo to make Halo 5.

The boomer generation (1946-1964) doesn't really play video games.

Generation X like Bungie, Rooster Teeth and the HBO guys were really into Halo, however. They made up Halo's core fanbase. Millennial kids made up XBL but they weren't the core fanbase until after 3 I'd say.

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he shoot all the aliens and doesn't afraid of anything

No, he worked on some shitty marvel comics and was notorious among comics fans even then because he made such hot garbage.

>barely play as Master Chief at all in a game named Halo
I agree that Halo 5 was trash, but this point doesn't really make sense.

I played both pc fps and halo. Halo was fucking awesome because of it's story and smooth gameplay at the time. Also co-op and split screen was fun as fuck. Not saying pc fps weren't, but halo pulled it all off at once

Explain your fucking retarded braindead shit reasoning, tell me what other games are there that are like halo? Hmm? Oh, you have none? You just felt like saying something annoying and snarky? Fuck off nigger dont even reply to me i bet I can bench more than you fag

This never ceases to make me laugh for 15 minutes

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because deep down they know it's a better shooter then both Doom and Quake and it leaves them seething

boomers are anyone over the age of 25, retard

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>And then there was the casual boomers that had never played an online fps game before.
You call them casual, but the reason why most of them hadn't played online fps games much (not at all, they just didn't play them much) was because the games were boring. They called them twitch shooters for a reason — purely about whose hand can twitch faster, and not much else. They were repetitive, lacked any sense of adventure, and most of them were pretty ugly too.

The core fanbase of Halo, by the way, was not millennial kids. It was Generation X dudes like mentions

The only thing Halo did for the first time was combine numerous elements within a unified structure under excellent execution. That's worth something. There was nothing prior to Halo CE that checked all these off at once:

>is an FPS
>has vehicular combat
>has fluid / dynamic vehicular physics
>has a co-op campaign
>has pvp multiplayer (local and online)
>has a broad variety of outdoor and indoor environments
>has a fully voiced cast and story to follow
>plays great with either mouse & keyboard or controller
>has extended lore written by competent novelists
>has a perfectly designed diegetic interface

It also had great art direction and a great soundtrack and a very charismatic and engaging AI that a lot of people loved, but I leave these out from the above list because these are more subjective.

Meanwhile, guys like you became jaded while Halo grew in popularity. Rather than let other people have their fun, you became a snob and tried to reverse all of the above with clever memes and historical revisionism, your post being an example.

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Jesus christ dude, you blew him the fuck out

Based and truthpilled.

I agree with a lot of your complaints but

>>wait why is Buck a spartan now?
Do you really NEED an explanation for why Buck is a spartan now? We know SIV's are a thing, and that adults can become SIV's, so is it really that hard to understand that he became one?

I don't see how this is a bigger leap then WOAH WHY IS SERGENT JOHNSON HERE BACK ON EARTH I THOUGHT HE DIED ON HALO

>holy fuck the controls are ruined now why is there a sprint AND dash mechanic

Unlike sprint, the thrust mechanic works fine, though

>wait why are the other Spartans here? I thought they were dead. How are you going to bring these 3 back from the novels with no explanation of where the fuck they've been all these years with no payoff or build up?

This is a dumb point.

- If you've read all the books, then you not only know who Blue Team is, but you'd know that they escaped the Onyx dyson sphere in the more recent ones.

- If you HAVEN'T read the books, then you don't know who they are but Fred's line about boot camp should be enough to establish they were fellow original spartans alongside MC.

It's only confusing or a problem if you've ONLY read Ghosts of ONyx and not the more recent ones, which is quite frankly your own issue. You can';t epxect devcs to include lines to justify/explain stuff to every possible combination of having read/seen stuff or not.

>I only recall an interview where someone said they deliberately hired people who had no experience/didn't like Halo to make Halo 5.

That was Halo 4, not 5.

>boomers
>like Halo
Dafuq are you talking about, nigger, Halo is the ultimate zoomercore.

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also jesus christ the formatting here is fucked, this is what I get for posting on Yea Forums for the first time from my phone I guess

You tried

Good shit.

>cool tough guy with no real identity that is strong
So betamales who want to self insert as an alpha

The point is you shouldn't have to read external material to get more story out of core games you stupid nigger.

Yes. Soldiers are max level betas.

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Halo ruined FPS games for almost a decade and we are just now recovering from it. Also zoomers like it not boomers you retard cunt.

I'm a boomer and I think Halo is shit. It was the most boring game I've ever played. But, what you don't understand is that Halo wasn't about "Halo" per say. It was about the evolution of gaming.

It's not a horrible game or anything but I do loathe it for saving the xbox from death and letting MS' cancer infect the industry.

What cancer do you think they introduced that Sega didn't already introduce?

No group of people should like one of the dullest franchises in the history of FPS franchises. Seriously each episode following the space marine and his pals from the UNSC as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the slow gameplay, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of mechanics, all to make movement molasses, to make bullets seem magnetic.

Perhaps the die was cast when Bungie vetoed the idea of Apple funding the series; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for directx. The Halo series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Perfect Dark series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to with 343i.

>a-at least the single player was good though
"No!"
The level design is dreadful; the single player was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time I went for a walk, the designer instead put an un-involved corridor in my path.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time a corridor was encountered. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Bungie's mind is so governed by cliches and flat topography that they have no other style of gameplay. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Halo by the same Jason West. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Halo at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to play Call of Duty." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Halo” you are, in fact, trained to play Call of Duty.

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People who grew up on Halo in the early 2000s and had no memories before 1998 used to be considered cancerous pieces of shit on Yea Forums. Now they're "boomers" all of a sudden

i think halo is a pretty cool guy. eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.

paid online and spread of microtransactions with the 360

Popularized paid online
Reignited grafix console wars when they should have died more or less in that generation
Less industry-wide and more just their own retardation but they also killed Rare because they thought they were buying donkey kong.

>paid online
What is Seganet for 500

So you can't read, I take it?

your right, what the fuck is that shit. It certainly didn't influence anything, that's for sure

Sega "popularized" it enough for Microsoft to adopt it, so you're wrong.

lol

People who grew up in the early 2000s aren't even meme boomers.
The meme boomer is a 30 year old, halo fags are in their mid 20s at the absolute oldest.

>no matter how stupid I sound I can’t be wrong!

Everything you pinned MS for in Sega was already fucking doing, don't try to pretend otherwise. Blaming MS for continuing what was already started is retarded.

sega popularized paid online by going completely bankrupt while the ps2 had free online and is the highest selling console of all time?

>ctrl+f "boom"
>30 results
>ctrl+f "zoom"
>17 results
I fucking hate you faggots

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>You can't blame a large company for doing something that a dying and irrelevant company was doing

So did Sega try to buy Rare as well?

Sega introduced it, MS mastered it. You can't blame one and not the other.

The real question is:

Why do zoomers enjoy garbage like Fortnite and PUBG so much?

I can certainly blame microsoft for the spread of it

You could, and you would be retarded for it

Yes I certainly can and will, not to mention .
The simple fact that you have to say "Well ACTUALLY it was Dead Company #9265 that made this thing instead of the company that everyone associates it with" is proof that they are the company that was the influencer, not Sega.

>Halo
>boomer
even by the standards of the meme that's wrong as hell

obsessed

There should be a game where you play as Arbiter again, not shitty OC spartans

BOOM ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM BOOM BOOBOOM!! ZOOOM ZOOM BOOOMIE ZOOOM ZOOMZ! ZOOM ZOOM BOOM? ZOOM ZOOM ZOOMIES!!! BOOM BOOM BOOM. ZOOM BOOM ZOOOM ZOOM. ZOOM BOOM, BOOM ZOOM ZOOM. BOOM. ZOOOM ZOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM ZOOM (BOOM ZOOM ZOOM BOOM BOOM). BOOM ZOOM.

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Listen kid, no one know what the fuck a seganet is. Saturn was dead outside japan and dreamcast was just dead. They didnt spread shit

Also he's into incest

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I can’t believe we let him win. For almost two months straight we just told him to fuck off. But no, people eventually fell in and started the worst trend on Yea Forums since frogposting. I hate this place.

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>clever memes and historical revisionism
Every thread for damn near 15 years.

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>But no, people eventually fell in and started the worst trend on Yea Forums since frogposting. I hate this place.
boomer is the one single iteration of wojak made in this hellhole that actually had some creative spirit put into it and THAT'S the one you don't like?
granted the entire trend is pretty fucking awful but for quite a while and still a tiny bit today you had some orignality for it instead of "5 seconds in photoshop to put person I don't like on a basedface"

>this is the main audience of current Yea Forums

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They're all the same shit

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Feels good to be a halochad.

there is 0 quality control on this board unlike other popular boards (not counting /int/). Yea Forums is Hiro (and was moot's) money grounds since it has the most traffic.

boomer (and to a slightly lesser extent, the various brainiac/brainlet edits) have actual effort put into them instead of just posting the same image over and over again with quite frequently literally just a different hate

>there is 0 quality control on this board unlike other popular boards
Don't pretend like other boards are safe either.
They're mostly better, at least for now, but it's obvious there too.

Halo is the John Cena of Video games.

>Came out in early 2000's
>Popular from the start, Got really huge during the decade
>although popular, both had alot of negative feedback since they were the hottest video game character since mario/hogan, which some people hated.
>started becoming beloved by all around the mid 10's, mostly as a nostalgic piece of their childhood.
>both wore green at one point

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Yea Forums has strict quality control, Yea Forums, Yea Forums, and Yea Forums have quality control as well. the only other popular board that's getting bad too is /int/ but that isn't as shit as Yea Forums either

>Yea Forums has strict quality control
under an incredibly dubious definition of "quality control" maybe
not to mention they've killed djt, panda, and fishposting

halo CE was revolutionary for its time, it shaped the FPS landscape afterwards

Very old friend

microsoft launched xbox live a year before the PC port.

He was a Marvel Comic writer before Halo.

>people being retarded and not knowing history means I'm right in solely blaming this company
Sorry but no.

because thats when men acted like men

He sounds like he needs a hug

because it was fucking cool

Halo is and was trash. I know this because I was a retarded console bab and my first online fps was Halo 2. I have spent the last 12 years gaming on PC. when I sold my Xbox 360 I never looked back and I just want to say if you are nostalgic for games like any of the Halo series you are a massive faggot and 100% belong on Yea Forums because everyone here plays faggot non-competitive games for babs and niggers.

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The argument was who popularized it.
Sega did not popularize it.
I'm sorry you're this stupid

>PC mustard race
yowza

He's right on that part but he's also a faggot for being a competitive retard

Politicians popularized nukes, scientists invented them. Both are held accountable for their existence.

Yea I also drive a sports car and wear nice clothes you should make some comment about how the Honda you drive is practically just as good for way less money.

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Imagine being so braindead you are entertained by stories. Stories are for children and faggots.

What is your favorite part of the Sangheili anatomy?

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What a butthurt casual.

The only people who praise halo are blind and deaf console players who've never tested their teeth on proper PC shooters. This is the only true answer for halo praise, as it's merely a casualized version of UT for console crowds.

How is he wrong? MC barely speaks in the original games. It was only after 343 took over that he went full on MUH CORTANA AI WAIFU

This, it's why I love Halo and Metroid.

>pc shooters are all twitched based skill
>laughing ralpha.jpg
All you've done here is show how little you understand the fps genre. What a waste of text.

The head

Which one, user?

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yawn pc-owards are so boring

The top one

>Why do boomers like Halo so much?

Nostalgia. Halo pioneered the two weapon system and regenerating health (shield), leading to the dumb down of FPS. Console FPS were always inferior to PC games, but they peeked remarkable early with Perfect Dark and hasn't been topped since.

Came close with Timesplitters though.

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>that point in Halo 2's campaign where Breaking Benjamin starts playing
am I the only one that thinks it was absolute kino

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youtube.com/watch?v=pTi7LrXxbOI

Halo has one of the best soundtracks in gaming. This is indisputable.

what is a boomer?

>I have no rebuttal
cool thanks user

hey me too except i was born in 2000

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>38
their first fps

Great aesthetic, amazing OST, top tier AI, couch co-op, splitscreen, LANs, Xbox LIve Halo 2

I can't really explain it if you weren't 14 when Halo 2 came out, but anyone who was 14 when Halo 2 came out knows what I mean.

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my dad was born in 1962 and says he is in the tail end of the Baby Boomers, My Dad and my uncle Mark both know nothing of Halo or anything from the SNES onward.

This be true

Boomer sound design. If Halo didn't sound the way it did, it would be forever written off as generic sci-fi action shlock.
Basically like 343i's games.

"An Ancient Evil awakens" and "there's a God race that created all the life in the universe" writing didn't help.

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>Perhaps the die was cast when Bungie vetoed the idea of Apple funding the series; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody

This is potent stuff 6/10

Except that's not really any more true with 4 or 5 then past games.

Again, Buck being a Spartan now or the introduction of Blue team is no more a big leap/without context to somebody who hasn't read the books then Johnson making it off Halo or Miranda Keyes/Lord Hood being introduced out of nowhere in Halo 2.

change anti-Christian to anti-Islam

Because even some boomers are massive plebs. Halo was baby's first fps back then, now for some reason seems like it's a sort of modern classic

See Games used to be just games, not insanely narratively driven shit like they are now. Shooters used to be KILL EVERYTHING FOR BLUE KEYCARD FOR BLUE DOOR. Halo was one of the first to deviate from that but still kept a basically voiceless protag. Half-life and Halo are similar like that. They had a narrative that wasn't constantly in your face, deviated from gameified shit like constantly getting keycards but were still primarily games which was its main focus.

Now if you play games they constantly are talking during the whole level, objectives being yelled at you, "funny" banter being thrown back and forth over the radio, cinematic set pieces, MASH A TO NOT DIE, hold up to slowly scale this cliffside while shit happens around you, long drawn out cut scenes with a lot of dialog where the main character trys to be an actual character instead of action man.
You can see this progress over the course of some series, its especially bad with Dead Space.

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>Tribes
>UT Black
>Natural Selection
>Enemy Territory

Not a huge fan of the chest pattern but I like the bulk. Also get that fucking 117 off the chest, Spartans having identifying features on their armor triggers me after Eric Nylund's trilogy. Only Halsey could ever tell them apart fully armored up.

Oh I know what you mean fellow boomer. Halo 3 was excellent online too. I remember going to the midnight release for it and skipping school the next day to play.

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>Book nerd

If there were a Halo movie in the making, which style would you prefer it to be:

Live action or 3D/2D animated?

there's a live action halo tv show in the making

Halo is fine as it is, not everything needs a fucking movie

live action

>Faust poster
>Guilty Gear Chad
>Makes a based post
How do they do it every single time bros? I play Chipp

That was literally the goal. It sold.

Alright bros I'm super new to FPS games, I played the original Doom and Doom 2, the only level I liked was A Simple Task.
I didn't really like Quake either or Quake 3 when I fought my friends.
I really enjoyed Unreal Tournament 3 though, where do I go from here?

The people OP is calling 'boomers'

boomers, short for 'baby boomer' are 60+ years old, they scarcely even understand what a videogame is

Nah this is disingenuous as fuck.
I'd put Buck being a Spartan for the most part on par with Johnson coming back from the grave, because they are still essentially the same character. One is way better than the other, but pretty much no one cares as long as they keep being Johnson and Nathan Fillion as Captain Malcom. Rookie dieing and Mickey being a fucking murderous traitor are far worse because this is the end of one character and the ruination of another, as mediocre as they are it's just wasteful.

Blue Team is different and it's retarded to compare them to Lord Hood or Miranda.
>wow the UNSC has a big dick fleet admiral parked on Earth
>wow Keyes reproduced and his daughter followed in his footsteps
This is the logical equivalent of walking over to Captain Keyes in the first level of CE and going:
>wow wtf this ship has a guy in charge of it, what do they expect me to read a book to find out about this???
Their relationships with Chief are formal, they are his superiors. Chief obviously met Lord Hood and maybe even Miranda at past award ceremonies, but it's not like there's a lot of implied depth here that the player has no context on. They're your bosses, they boss you around, one is the daughter of your last boss, that's neat.

Blue Team are essentially Chief's siblings. Chief, who is implied to be the last living Spartan in the first games, actually isn't and now he just shows up with other SII survivors who have a lifetime of rapport with him. The player knows NONE of this shit, he has no idea who the fuck they are or how the fuck they're here, and the only way they can clue in is by reading the books. You don't need to read shit to understand Johnson being Johnson, Buck being Buck, or that admiral is a rank that exists in the navy.
Blue Team definitely deserved some in-game establishment, especially if you want players to connect with them like the Chief is supposed to.

CE.. not that's a Halo game.

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The primetime melodrama bullshit is known as space opera.

The slide into space opera began with Halo 2, where the gritty realistic side of halo was reduced and all the tired old sci fi space opera tropes were introduced.

Halo was better when it was more aliens and less mass effect; e.g. the first game and only the first game.

Opera has taste, it's more space prog rock.

I play elphelt actually but I like every GG character

And it's going to suck.

>wanting Halo to be some live action garbage
Halo Legends proved that animated Halo can work, the live action garbage proved that live action just doesn't work for Halo, not getting that shitty movie back then was the best thing to happen to Halo, it didn't need that.

>Blue Team are essentially Chief's siblings
Not him, no one gives a fuck, no one read the books.

PC shooters back then were pretty much all twitch based. I can't recall any off the top of my head that weren't. Maybe rainbow six, but I'm not sure if that was the same time as Halo. Mechwarrior maybe, if you consider it a shooter.

He's right though, the people who hate on halo's gameplay are just contrarian faggots. I can understand it not being to someone's taste, like Idon't enjoy counterstrike, but blanket statements that halo sucks because reasons just comes off as faggy contrarianism by someone who just wants to be 'that guy'.

>Halo CE
>realistic

I know you fucking retard I'm saying the game just expects you to give a fuck.

>Unreal Tournament 3
I hope you aren't talking about it's single player

No it was a duel against a friend

>but blanket statements that halo sucks because reasons just comes off as faggy contrarianism by someone who just wants to be 'that guy'.
contrarianism requires you having an opinion contrary to a widely held belief

>I really enjoyed Unreal Tournament 3 though

Holy shit, I'm not the only one.

In what way did regenerating health 'dumb down' FPS?

I've had this argument a few times and people like you just make this assertion without actually backing it up with an argument. Halo 1, for starters, had both healthpacks and regenerating health. I sometimes wonder if you people have even played it?

What is the actual benefit of a healthpack system anyways?

Regenerating health removes the need for inventory management or painstaking careful placement/playtesting of healthpacks for gameplay, difficulty, and pacing reasons. It's very easy to either have too many healthpacks and make encounters trivial, or too few and make them artificially difficult. It's harder to balance - you never know what amount of health a player has for a fight, and what usually happens is the developer just tosses a shitload of healthpacks and ammo at you prior to 'boss battles' as a result, which often telegraphs to the player when it's about to happen, ruining some of the suspense.

And seriously, what is the gain to a healthpack system? You don't get better pacing or balance out of it. Is it just an autistic obsession with collect-a-thon?

Regenerating health took over in FPS because it works better than healthpacks, full stop.

Autists swearing by healthpacks have never actually stopped to think about the fucking gameplay and mechanical limitations of that shit.

Are you looking for single player? If so Doom 2016 is literally the only good FPS game in the last 10 years worth playing.

Unreal Tournament 3 was unironically good. Unfortunately it's UI was shit due to consoles. Combined with the autistic neckbeard fanbase of arena shooters that always hates even the smallest changes from the previous game, it was always bound to end in failure.

I feel like we shouldn't have encountered the covenant politics until the 5th halo game. Keep us in the dark and slowly feed us little morsels of information.

In halo CE we see covenant up close, forerunner shit, flood and get the fuck away. Halo 2 should have been a stand up fight, a pyrrhic victory ending in a kind of " the fuck? " loss like losing a forerunner device or something. Shit we should have seen an actual fleet engagement, combined arms and orbital MAC support on ground. Like seeing a MAC round hit ships or aerial denial and such, YOU SEE SOME OF THAT IN THE E3 DEMO, where chief and company mark some AAA and bomb it. I mean fuck, they could have shown Cairo hit the carrier on approach with the big gun, BUT FUCKING NOTHING happens.

The way the covenant crawls all over the city because??!?! Nothing is really marked, the forces aren't really noticed by any AI that they're marshalling in any meaningful way. Halo 2 is such a fucking joke at this point. I just wanted to see fleet formations and the actual ground forces use the typical large scale positioning and broad engagements that war has.

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We shouldn't have encountered Covenant politics period, leave that shit in the books where it belongs.

God you contrarian faggots are insufferable.

Quake wars was pretty fun. Unreal 2k4 was way better than unreal 3. I hated their introduction of vehicles, it just didn't feel right in the game.

Tribes did vehicles better. I'd say for the fast paced old school shooters, play:

Unreal 2k4
Tribes 2

For newer shooters, Planetside 2 is good mechanically, but extremely punishing until you get a handle on battle flow and how to avoid the vehicle farmers, cheaters and players so good they might as well be cheaters.

Halo 1 goes without saying. You can skip the rest of the halo games, but don't skip halo 1. In terms of singleplayer, Halo 1 and Halo 3 are worth it, Halo 2 was only good for the multiplayer, it was a rushed hackjob of a game and the singleplayer feels like it. Halo ODST and Reach are both okay as well, but Halo 1 is the singleplayer king for the series. Halo 4 and 5 are so bad you can skip entirely, they aren't even worth it for multiplayer like Halo 2 was. Peak Halo multiplayer was Halo 3, but unfortunately, multiplayer tends to be a thing that only lasts a few years before pop drops off too much.

If you want a more RPGesque shooter, play stalker, both shadow of chernobyl and call of pripyat are good, but I'd skip clear sky.

Titanfall 2 has some really good movement mechanics, but the gun mechanics and combination of hitscan with projectile weapons was a gameplay mistake. Still, very unique and pretty fun, but just doesn't have lasting appeal/stickiness. Also it's basically dead now and the multiplayer was the only thing it really had going for it - singleplayer was okay, tiicks the boxes basically, but just doesn't draw you in like some other games will.

Theres's a few shooters that are widely popular but I just couldn't get into them. Overwatch and counterstrike are those games for me. I just don't find them fun at all and I wouldn't recommend anyone bother with either of them.

Not that guy, but I'm pretty sure he meant the FEEL of realism not literal diamond hard sci-fi.

It was in Halo 2/3 user

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Yes, it's very clear from the aliens inspirational vibe it had going on in the first game. I know autists like you struggle to understand degrees, but Halo 1 had a sense of grittiness to it that the latter games lost completely.

It wasn't pure hard sci-fi, but it was more to the hard scifi side than the space opera side in Halo 1. What helped tremendously was the game NOT explaining the covenent or the forerunners. Leaving that all as a mystery was good for the atmosphere of the game.

God, you're a casual.

It's the exact opposite of casual in this instance,

Nah, it's just that shit dragged down Halo 2's campaign completely.

While I agree with most of what you said
>grittiness
You're the reason we go Reach, fuck you for that.

*got

>Halo fans are considered boomers now

>Nah, it's just that shit dragged down Halo 2's campaign completely.
It's what made Halo 2's campaign great.

Aliens using human gestures common in the 90's and early 2000's. A very predictable civil war in order to nerf the covenant ala starcraft protoss bla bla bla, here's this new character no one asked for. Everyone loves the chief but here's a new character no one asked for, we heard everyone loved Raiden!

I feel like smoke should be coming out of my ears, you deserve 343.

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Reach's problems weren't the atmosphere or style, it was what they did with the individual missions and the plot that sucked ass. The first few missions were pretty decent, but the story falls apart after the carrier gets nuked.

Also the gameplay balance, particularly for multiplayer, just wasn't fun. Even singleplayer didn't quite feel right, but multiplayer was a huge letdown after Halo 2 and Halo 3.

>Nah, it's just that shit dragged down Halo 2's campaign completely.
Yikes!

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Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aliens and doesnt afraid of anything.

No, it didn't people that like Halo 2's campaign are probably people that like Sony's cinematic garbage. Halo CE was great because of the Master Chief, Cortana, the massive levels that allowed you to explore, the mystery, the Covenant aliens being aliens, and kicking alien ass while saving the galaxy like a badass. Halo 2 threw that out alien politics. You wonder while only Halo CE and 3's campaigns are looked at fondly over the rest.

Ahahaha a literal brainlet Raiden hater
That's who the type of person that seethes at Halo 2 is.

You poor guy.

Goddammit, man, you keep making me agree with you. I just can't disagree because you're right.

It also brought in furfags like this guy, another reason why Halo 2's campaign sucked.

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Live action.

Halo 2 needed to focus less on covenant politics and more on chief/humanity. Full stop. The game spent way too much time digging into covenant stuff and playing as the arbiter - those missions should have been optional sideshows, not the core storyline, and drip-fed slowly (if at all) over the course of all the games, rather than shoved hard into one game.

Live action ruins Spartans so animated.

>Halo 2 needed to focus less on covenant politics and more on chief/humanity. Full stop. The game spent way too much time digging into covenant stuff and playing as the arbiter
Nah.

This, Halo 5 felt like Halo 2 but worse, both are my least favorite mainline campaigns because they focus on shit that I had no interest in over the actual interesting stuff.

>It also brought in furfags like this guy, another reason why Halo 2's campaign sucked.
Halo CE had the best looking elites, my dude.
Or maybe Bungie should've finished their game. The pacing in 2 is off, but by no means is it brought down by a different perspective. I personally enjoyed how the serious and campy themes were balanced. At least it wasn't like 4/5 where the dialogue became cheesy, and the Spartans danced around like power rangers.

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I'm pretty sure most of these retards pay 0 attention to what the characters actually say or what is happening in CE, and then try to imply it was intentionally a big mystery.

>contrarian

I can't agree, I think on an indivual mission basis reach has consistently above average to great missions by CE-3 standards.

There's no standout, 9/10 to 10/10 missions like Silent Cartographer, Metropolis, Regret, Delta Halo ,Gravemind, Great Journey, The Ark, The Covenant, Tsavo highway, etc; but all of them are solid and none of them are bad. And again, while reach is no narrative masterpiece, just by virtue of having a cast of characters that bounces off each other, gets actual screentime, has actual cinegraphy in it';s cutscenes, etc has a better sotry then CE or 3.

On the MP side, i'd argue the issue is map design and the lack of even starts, the actual core gameplay itself is fine and it's actually got one of the more balanced weapon sandboxes in the series, at least pre TU

he's not a casual, he's a dudebro who can't stand not playing as MUH BADASS MC, or is a doom boomer who is assmad that the game's not just minialistic story and all ripping and tearing ayy's

my only problem with halo 2 is

>all marketing was about taking the fight to earth
>2 earth levels in the whole game

Halo CE was a simple story with a beginning, middle, and end it didn't need to expand any further than it did.

>Halo 2 needed to focus less on covenant politics and more on chief/humanity.
Uhhh this right here my brosiphs is what halo 2 should've been, can I get a hoorah for my fellow american soldiers?

Reach's levels sucked they were either mediocre or just plain bad.

I just about quit halo for good when it went from the shit happening on earth to arbiter completely out of the blue

I wanted my fucking epig battle on earth and then the game ends and you never get that fucking battle on earth

FUCKKKKK

dead franchises

Probably the same problem as Halo 5 where the ad team got to interested in one of the game's plot points and just ran with it.

Did you like Destiny? Wasn't it halotastic? Enjoy the new Halo arcade at dave and busters.

I remember stating that if Halo 3 wasn't a Chief only game and pulled that Arbiter shit again I was dropping the series.

hoorah

Co-op.

it didnt help that the e3 demo for halo 2 was a cool city battle that never happens in game

>CE
>online shooter on xbox
sure thing zoom zoom

This burned me so hard.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about and pretending that quake of all things is only twitch based is fucking hilarious. But you like halo, so your taste is shit to begin with by liking console trash.

Way to reveal yourself as fucking twelve years old.

>Reach campaign bad!
>Halo 2 campaign good!

2 Didn't have but reach did.....
Civilians,
Aliens being alien,
functional brutes,
Hard but fair difficulty,
An AI,
large non-linear sandbox theaters with multiple approaches,
>Good enemy spawns
>Ship battles
>Animated ship battles
>Combined arms,
>Seamless transitions during campaign despite massive change in environment.
>A working pistol

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>I don't understand what stack and map control is the TL:DR
Cool

There's a difference between "not needing to expand" and trying to insist it never explained shit that was blatantly implied to anyone who listened to what Cortana and Guilty Spark were saying.

The last line in the fucking game is:
>"No... I think we're just getting started"
so clearly pretty much everyone involved in CE's creation disagrees with you, chief among them the guy who wrote the bitch.

Not true, the Matrix was never meant to be a trilogy, neither was starwars.

Halo does it with power weapons instead of healthpacks, and this is only relevant to multiplayer, not singleplayer.

Fucking based! You fucking murdered those PCfags.

hot take mark iv was actually the best

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This has got to be the most ironic post in the entire thread.
Its funny to hear halobabbies talk about the fps genre because they consider their game from a multiplayer standard some sorta complex puzzle of high skill. When really its just an arena shooter like UT with less options available for players to approach their problems.

>Halo 2 campaign good!
I never said this though, Halo 2's campaign sucked, it's just that Reach's campaign was worse.

It can't be with those improvements.

Okay whatever

We knew we were getting a sequel, we thought we were getting a continuation of Chief's adventures, not some random alien we never heard of for a sequel.

eh he is a pretty cool guy kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything

Let me first say I'm almost 28 years old, not sure if that makes me "boomer", but whatever. I love Halo (still play MCC/and H5 daily), I first played Combat Evolved when I was about 9 or 10. Playing split-screen multiplayer became what me and my friends did after school and on the weekends. Being a kid, I had a pretty wild imagination so I started to read all the books. When Halo 3 came out, it was the first game I encountered that felt truly global and "online" - by the time Halo 3 came out, I'd played hundreds, if not thousands of hours of CE and H2 multiplayer and my friends and I could dominate online. Playing Halo became our identity. All of my best memories of high school seemed to involve Halo - the first time I did drugs was at a Halo LAN, the night I lost my virginity was at a party where we were all playing Halo. As I fished university, and my spare time became smaller and smaller, playing Halo 5 and the MCC is basically my relaxation - takes me back to a better and simpler time. Halo was my late childhood, and basically defined my adolescence. Sure, I played CoD/Battlefield a lot as well but nothing compares to the memories I have playing Halo. I'm getting married soon, and my bachelor party is going to be a huge catch-up with my mates for a night of beer/weed and the Halo MCC.

friendly reminder that boomers shat all over Halo when it first came out because the gameplay was boring uninspired shit and the game was just a proof of concept that you can make a blockbuster out of everything if you pump enough money into marketing

>Civilians
>Hard but fair difficulty
>An AI
How does any of this make Reach better than any game in the trilogy?
>functional brutes
After Halo 3 made so many improvements to them, Reach just felt like it dumbed them down hard.
>large non-linear sandbox theaters with multiple approaches
Where, game felt as linear as Halo 2?

That's what makes the conversation so funny, because if you actually took a nuanced look at halo compared to other fpses it would prove my opinion right. So its easier to just call games you don't understand 'twitch based' 'dead' 'contrarian' and all these other labels that only show your ignorance of the genre's roots.

>muh arena fps
why do you faggots act like Quake/UT is still relevant? if it was really that great, why is Quake Champions basically dead?

LM

Because arena fpses were basically one of the peaks of the genre in terms of skill and halo is just a dumbed down incredibly basic representation of the genre. Also the reason nobody plays QC is because the netcode has been shite since launch and its had numerous optimization issues among other basic things that you would want in a shooter. AKA quake champions is a half aborted fetus of a game that only has a playerbase because of paid tournaments.

Who are you quoting? Reach's campaign was better than 2, stop mincing my words.

>Who are you quoting?
You
>Reach's campaign was better than 2, stop mincing my words.
It was the worst campaign in the series, Bungie stopped caring completely.

>ITT: people getting mad that a series didn't follow their headcanons
Halo 2 is widely regarded to have the best campaign in the franchise, deal with it.

the only good thing to come from 5 has hunt the truth and even season 2 wasn't nearly as good as season 1

So quote it and stop hiding from. like a little bitch who can't take his lumps. It was not the worst of the series, it was very good. 2 had the first multiplayer lobby for consoles and that was it. But I'll let you live in your lala land of badly made jackal snipers, spawns that drop tanks right ontop of the player, bad save system for instant death checkpoints. Linear as fuck maps and gondola rides, holy fuck the gondola/elevator rides.

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>t. fortnite zoomer

>Halo 2 is widely regarded to have the best campaign in the franchise
Says who?

You have to be a literal retard to think Reach's campaign was good.

Armor lock and bloom were fine, so is sprint, go play some halo 4.

in my thirties and halo is still babbies first fps for the shitty next generation to me

Funny that you would say that.
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Halo 2's system was a mistake, CE was most balanced. Fuck your Moba : ^ )

Who the hell are you people that think the story matters at all? The good parts about the Halo campaigns are 1) their soundtracks, and 2) the fact they have co-op mode. You're supposed to play them once or whatever and then spend the rest of your time having a blast in co-op or multiplayer with your bros.

Blessed post.

Go play mario party.

Its pretty cool had decent handling and wasnt too realistic.
Gears was great too because it was CHUNKY and MEATY.

360 shooters were good fun, they take themselves way too seriously anymore.
ITS A GIANT WORM

Well, I don't disagree with you there.

Halo is a late millennial game

>gatekeeping

I'd like to point out that retard there talks as though the Halo 2-3 era was the hottest shit of all time. 3 had its half ass snap map system and got aborted by COD: MW and then Halo 2 was a fucking vile mess where most games was cheating, massive lag spikes and just agony to such a point they run away if you suggest playing Halo 2 Vista.

There is a reason halo CE has such a good community.

I liked halo, still enjoyed the campaigns. But the more I played pc shooters the more I realized how slow and limiting halo multiplayer is.

That's true

or or, maybe it's just because bungo didn't keep track of CE stats

Niggers need to stay on reddit and complain that a game doesn't cater to the shittiest players.