This is the worst MMO expansion ever and FF14 is such a piece of generic shit.
WoW is even fucking gayer and worse than 14 but that itself is still comlete fucking shitshow. The Stockholm syndrome you need to pretend to like this trash filled with buttrock and empty nothing with ps2 level graphics is pathetic.
It has easily the worst story and world of any FF.
Jeremiah Gomez
>FFXIVfags claim that their game has the best story of any other FF game >Probably hasn't even played more than 2 other games >100% sure they didn't even touch FFXI
you've already had your thread for the days trannies
Levi Thomas
I just bought the game and can't even make a fucking character on a single server, how the fuck is this happening in the year 2019? I'm already forcing a refund.
I have played to completion every final fantasy game starting with ff4, XIV story is good, way better than XIII and XV, but thats not saying much, still it's pretty damn good tough.
>Stormblood's msq was shit >wish for shadowbringer's msq to be better >it is but in exchange, most of the combat changes are shit Fucking monkey paw, but you know what? I'm almost not even mad. The msq was great and the climax was amazing. >tfw the main theme kicked in
>join EX farming party >full of parse trannies trying to do dumb "dps optimization" strats like having the OT tank a billion tethers on Titania and fail at it >tard trannies that dont get into circles intime because muh uptime >look up every retard player that causes groups to wipe in my EX groups >always a 99% parse tranny on fflogs >always wiping the group because of muh uptime even as healers and tanks
>decide to make my own groups >kick anyone with orange parses on FFLogs >literally havent had one trap group, farmed all of the tokens for both fights with complete ease
I thought it was a meme NEVER group with parse trannies they will wipe you nonstop for muh uptime, and will try and get the group to do retarded convoluted strats that end in wipes just for muh 1 gcd
i feel like there are literally so much buyers remorse going on here. i have never played a worse mmorpg in my entire life and even retail wow has more to offer than this "MMORPG" . i mean have you seen zones? its all sand . and the pvp ? lmao dont even get me started . why would anyone pay a monthly fee to play a Online singleplayer "good story " LMAO bros im done
Leo Anderson
In the first, light is the dark. uriange, or whatever, explained it when you meet him.
Tyler Gonzalez
You forgot 1.0 was shit.
Jacob Johnson
>"Optimizing" tethers What the fuck? It's the smallest movement possible and every job has abilities to manage that.
Liam Gonzalez
I mean let's be fair here. 10, 12, 13 and 15 all dropped the ball hard. 3 and 4's stories are a joke. 5 doesn't have a story so much as a vehicle for characters.
I think calling 14 one of FF's better stories and the best in over a decade is fair.
Ethan Gonzalez
SB was ok. Post SB was much better. And she wrote Azim Steppe + 4.4
Nonono, stick dick in Feo Ul, stick Fro Ul in Alisaie
Eli Cruz
Ignore in favor of Minifilia
Nicholas Garcia
>caring about story in an MMO Let me ask you FFXIV fags an honest question. What the fuck are you gonna do for the next 5 months before the next patch hits? If you care about story so much, why stay subbed when literally everything else about the game besides the story is abysmal?
Zachary Gutierrez
I'll be your friend.
Jonathan Collins
Lyna
Nathaniel Campbell
I don't get it.
Owen Lee
Worst writer.
Ethan Hughes
>alisaie getting jealous when feo ul goes on one of her 'precious sapling' spiels
>What the fuck are you gonna do for the next 5 months before the next patch hits? Raiding in one month and level other jobs to see their respective role stories.
What kind of question is that?
Brayden Cox
>What the fuck are you gonna do for the next 5 months acquire slut glams
>5 months before the next patch hits? It's 3 >why stay subbed I won't
Wyatt Lewis
Stick dick in Alisaie then stick Alisaie in Feo Ul?
Henry Sanders
i can do what i want
Christopher Parker
I like the crafting, I like hanging out with people, I like the jobs and leveling them, and I love the world itself.
Camden Turner
thank you
Lucas Davis
I joined multiple parties where parse trannies kept trying to have tanks take 3 tethers, and they'd always fail and die, and then the other parse trannies would freak out and drag the tether onto the group and wipe. Also many parse trannies that wouldnt break vines because "muh uptime" many parse trannies that would fail the easy ass knockback+vines in the addphase because of muh uptime multiple parse trannies that would fail the water circles because muh uptime
didn't have any parse trannies on innocence because I started my own groups by then and kicked anyone with orange logs. so much easier to do fights when you don't have some retard parse tranny wiping your group for their one gcd
Austin Jackson
Deeper >Have Titania Feo Ul summon small Feo Ul >Stick dick in small Feo Ul >Stick small Feo Ul in Alisaie >Stick Alisaie in Titania Feo Ul
>Thancred pats Ryne's head >Urianger pats Ryne's head >When it's your turn to encourage her no option to pat her head Fucking Lalafell limitations.
Hunter Morales
Alphinaud
Ian Moore
like every other time, fish. gonna find a nice watering hole, put on some chill music, and fish
Jose Kelly
I know we're talking about fucking elf teens and fairies here, but something about that just seems... unrealistic. If however you changed Feo to Titania, then yes, that's somewhat feasible.
Caleb Foster
I'm so fucking excited to fish in the Tempest.
Levi Campbell
What do you think sex with Emet-Selch would be like?
Is Labyrinth of the Ancients from Ascians or Allagans?
Juan Stewart
No, that's not fucking saying anything at all.
Leo Morgan
>[it] goes in all relevant fields. Most here probably don't even know what you're referring to. What a horrifying thought.
Jaxon Sanders
Kino
Andrew Scott
Lots of rolling around while one of you tries to Dom the other Lots of joke role-playing like him suddenly having his dick dressed up as a clown Lots of fighting for some reason No kissing whatsoever.
Christian Anderson
This is how you start a FFXIV thread so the mods won't kill it.
Take note.
Kevin James
Crafting, raids. Gearing up all jobs. People play XIV because it is mmoRPG. If I want to experience real MMO I will play >Dark age of camelot >Wurm >Ultima Not your WoW garbage.
Ryne is for headpats only until she can't take it anymore and breaks her way to the Source for a dicking.
Austin Young
They aren't worth a passing thought my friend, much like a Janny that doesn't know a false flag when he sees one so we can have an uninterrupted and unproductive thread. Fuck Jannies Fuck Storyskippers Fuck Hydaelyn Fuck Mhiggers And Fuck off
>the twins in the second half where does that one start?
Nolan Gray
you have no standards
Ryan Jones
Uh...kupo
Wyatt Carter
wow sucks aswell. but not as hard . enjoy your 90% unvoiced story quests until it lasts . than pay for half a year to fish.
Nicholas Bell
Nice pic. I've got two words for you: tome caps.
Lucas Morris
Are the WoL and Thancred fuckbuddies?
Sebastian King
Did you think pic related was just a joke? It's absolutely understood by most people that you only resub for expansion launches and the x.3 or x.4 patch.
I definitely agree. I watched a twitch stream fight some large lady >waifu boss >shitty ass anime uguu music >telegraphed mechanics >gimmicks >brain dead, one button rotation >8 player raid >everyone is just a human with a different ear >no loot from bosses
Hard pass for me. I'll just wait for WoW classic like any sensible MMO player.
It's less that light is dark, more that once light started doing bad shit, people stopped worshiping light and began worshiping dark instead. Neither is inherently good nor evil, they're aspects of nature.
Andrew Miller
>I watched a twitch have you ever tried actually playing games
>DRG level 40 quest >go into the Witchdrop and speak with some elf bint >"If you're so fucking great, try THIS for a challenge!" >summons five fucking mitelings and a bigger mite >kill bugs easily, because they're bugs >"holy shit, you're fucking awesome" I am beginning to feel less awesome
I would if I could make a character in this shit game. Every single server is locked
Landon Torres
You can tell she was actually worried because alisaie was there when we received the blessing to swim underwater. She knows we can't drown.
Jason Ramirez
Why don't I have my level 80 job quest for PLD? I'm where the wiki says it should be and there's nothing. I've already completed the msq and the tank role quests.
He's competent but not on the same level as the WoL. He kicks ass because he's inventive enough to get around his handicap.
Benjamin Bell
Sam looks like garlemald stuff or some shit nothing really fitting for samurai/melee
Jordan Jenkins
Is grandpa's blessing good enough?
Bentley Watson
Classic is hardcore MMO.
Lincoln Foster
No, Thancred is actually able to do things besides canned animations in cutscenes. WoL will forever be restricted to emotes.
Samuel Gonzalez
I play/played both and while FFXI has arguably the best FF world and story (cop mainly) it's not a stretch to say XIV has the best story since.
>FF12 kept the story at arms length the whole game >FF13, lol >FF15 was a disaster
Nathaniel Johnson
No, he's not as powerful as the WoL. Not even close.
Juan Gutierrez
I feel like you are a smelly neet assmonballfondler and a samefag
Benjamin Davis
I'm new to the game but what is a parse?
Nathan Bell
Get out you retard. Get out of here right now. You haven't seen anything yet.
Gavin Myers
They don't want to go through the effort of animating the WoL into various fight scenes throughout the story because they would have to create individual scenes for various jobs, instead they have Thancred do it.
It's disappointing really, they put a lot of effort into the story scenes but won't go that extra step to let your character take the lead in a few key scenes.
thanks, finally found him. thought i was losing my mind
Hunter Martin
It's a log of damage. "Optimizing parses" is essentially "Maximizing my damage output". These damage logs are uploaded to websites that compare them and give you a percentile based on your parse.
Ideally a way to improve and increase your own skill at the game, but realistically a way to compare e-peens and whore for maximum damage uptime at the cost of fight mechanics/inconveniencing others.
Levi Bailey
YOU have no standards, dude. Tell me which FF game from this decade has a better story than XIV.
Noah Sanders
It will take at least 200 hours playtime if you don't skip everything like an ass. Do with that as you will, we don't know your schedule.
Charles Garcia
In the end, we truly were Final Fantasy XIV Online: Shadowniggers
Logan Gonzalez
But we see him every other fight
Luke Wilson
Long. Also all content is active because of how game works. Except EX ARR trials because of retarded EX quests. You can farm EX in PF because everyone still want mounts
Dylan Anderson
This yshtola bitch is a real slut holy shit
Asher Hall
Lay off the Somnus, SMNfriend
Brandon Cooper
you have the 2.0 msq. Then the 2.x msq. Then 3.0 msq. Then 3.x msq. Then 4.0 msq. Then 4.x msq. But there's also story related stuff like raids. For instance, 5.0 calls back to a raid from all the way back in 2.0.
Nolan Gonzalez
>Implying after BCoB he wouldn't trust you to take care of her for the rest of her life I killed her grandfather, that counts as a blessing to fuck her, right?
Jack Walker
What is the XI story anyway?
David Jones
>I killed her grandfather, that counts as a blessing to fuck her, right? Rance, isn't your series done?
14 is literally mute retard while npcs dance in the background and no voice acting and you have to IMAGINE shit is actually happening because its so poorly conveyed
Ryan Long
MCH, NIN or DRK?
Zachary Gomez
in the last war, the beastmen were rallied by the Shadow Lord and laid siege to the nation-states. One was completely wiped out and the other three allied to defeat the beastman horde and slay the shadow lord. You, a new adventurer to one of the naton-states, rise through the ranks and become liaison to the alliance. You find out the Shadow Lord is being brought back and you take him down.
Adrian Thomas
Is SMN fun at level 80? I'm leveling SCH for the free fairy onahole, but if SMN is fun then I'll probably use it too.
Jayden Kelly
in all seriousness, the only tank that can safely tank 3 tethers is pld since hallowed ground lasts a ridiculously long time.
Benjamin Bailey
bun village. it's an aether current quest. you go to the temple, they do a prayer, I'll omens and all that jazz. complete both of them for our Lord and Saviour Ronka
Charles Price
Very much like the Ascians. The world was originally Paradise, but the Dawn Goddess Altana fragmented the Mothercrystal to seal pieces of Promathia in the shattered remains. But she actually did it because she loved him and as the Twilight God he was doomed to fade away along with the world. So she trapped him from fulfilling his duty.
The original people, the Zilart, became corrupted by Promathia's darkness in the crystals and so they built a gigantic machine to fuse the Mothercrystals back together and restore Paradise.
Jaxon Young
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CLAIM 15 TO BE A FF AND SAY 14 IS NOT A FF? 14 IS LITERALLY FF: THE GAME
Parker Taylor
I never thought I'd be compared to Rance. I think it's time to stop posting now, thanks for showing me the light.
the grind is ass, but there's a LOT of plot hooks in it that you dont see til they come back up. it also picks way the fuck up in the last 20 or so. just put some chill music on, mindless run your errands, and then enjoy the second best story in the game.
Ethan Davis
thanks
Nicholas Smith
>15 Only serious answers and finished games, please.
Parse trannies are real. Look at official forums where mentor from balance discord posting his shit. He's one of those guy who fished for Ruin 4 proc before pull in SB. Imagine this fucking madness for 0,000001 gain. He's crying about SMN AoE rotation and clips. Imagine caring about clipping in AoE fucking rotation.
Joshua Turner
SMN is fun if you like playing your hotbar like an instrument. I like playing my hotbar like an instrument so it's fun. I would be bold enough to say that if you know what you're doing as SMN you can reach some BLM DPS numbers.
Blake Harris
14 is not a FF its a fucking theme park XV is the most true to FF actual FF since FF9
14 is not a finished game and has no ending xv has had a definitive ending since it launched
Anyone here played 1.0? What the fuck was the last quest? It must be jarring just playing and then getting nuked outta nowhere.
Owen Flores
As I come from wow I see the logs as a way to improve and optimize my damage based on the mechanics. Like doing the mechanics properly and then trying to optimize damage while doing mechanics. Not the other way around. It saddens me to see people try to optimize damage at the cost of mechanics, when raids and so on are supposed to be a co-op experience and not a solo one.
What is even worse is I'll probably be put in the category with the parsers who do that shit.
Parker Reed
FF1 literally has an advanced super civilization in the sky with advanced robot mechs plus it has time travel
ff14 is not a real ff, its a ff theme park, its just a fucking skin to fool retards like you into thinking its ff despite the fact it isnt
Did they get Inu Curry to make the picture book about the Minfilias?
Brandon Flores
Are you? kh3 bombed
Jaxson Young
Off model, bob's to big.
Alexander Hall
The last quest was going on a pilgrimage around Eorzea to pray at each of the Twelves' sigils. On the final day Garleans and voidsent were spawning into cities and around the map and you had to fight them off until servers shut down. The End of an Era cinematic played when servers went down.
Andrew Green
We can only hope /our girl/ is hired as lead writer for 6.0.
Jayden Turner
It's all true.
Benjamin Ross
Yes, ideally you'd want to maximize GROUP damage, but you know how it is.
Nothing wrong with logs. They're really helpful for your improvement. But not with randoms in PF. Wish we have options at least for own DPS meters or DPS metters for SSS since you can't use ACT on ps4.
Wyatt Sullivan
Man I will never get used to FFXIV end game after a sick story like HW and SHB. It's such a letdown. The best moments of the game is coming back and you got 2 years of content + the upcoming expansion
Luis Butler
no you aren't kh turd
Gavin Mitchell
honestly, only reason I have act/fflogs installed is to measure my progress as I learn my class. I'm a BRD player, and I constantly drop procs, fuck up Iron Jaws, or simply tunnel vision on something minor, like interrupt timings. having parses to see how I'm improving is a godsend, when the only other way is by feel
You can gauge your DPS a bit by looking at aggro, as it's purely damage driven now for DPS. (No diversion/other enmity reducing tools).
Tyler Baker
In FF games you start out moving from area to area, and then you quickly go through most of the map and end up going back and forth through the map, until you unlock another world and then go back and forth again (you may discover a third world and go back and forth once again). That’s literally FF14, especially with the expansions.
Ayden Jenkins
>FF I am indifferent towards does FF things >It's FF >FF I vehemently dislike for no well described reason does FF things >It's a FF themepark, not actually FF
Jack Richardson
At least Nomura didn't """""""""resign""""""""" and kill himself after his game released.
Logan Cox
lets get real here the game should have an option to jumpstart new players into the beggining of the newest expansion with some kind of story description leading up to that point they should also be given an option to go back to the MSQ to the moment they activated the skip, for example through minstrel its unironically retarded SE hasnt implemented this yet, majority of MMO playes do not give a fuck about story
Joseph Jackson
>>>FAGGOT OP >I want the (you) audience
Sebastian Watson
no it isnt and 14 is just retarded empty zones with trannies dancing in the background
>its a ff theme park What the fuck do you mean? It's a theme park mmo, but if it were a single player RPG it would be a normal FF game.
Jayden Smith
FF14 is literally a fucking FF theme park, it literally just pulls shit from other FFs as in literally them coming to FF14 world just to occupy it
Evan Murphy
14 is an FF, it’s not an MMO
Thomas James
Final Fantasy versus 13 was supposed to have countries that were still in the Middle Ages, it was supposed to be the bridge between medieval and modern themed FFs, but 15 scrapped that idea because Tabata is a dick-sucking fag
Jackson Lopez
Yeah instead he's a monkey stooge stuck under a corporate thumb while Tabata is ceo of his own company which a bunch of SE devs joined with him, including people that used to be core members of Nomura's posse.
Mason Lee
So you are just shit posting with argument? Good
Nathaniel Watson
Only because it 1) recycles enemy models from XI, XII and XIII 2) The omega raid
Carter Martinez
>Game has one series of fanservice raids for the sake of cool fights, justified by a space-traveling superwepaon >This discredits the entire game Let me guess, in a few months XIV will also be a fucking NieR themepark too?
Anthony Bennett
>his own company Nice, can't wait to see it crash and burn and shit out nothing but phone games and RPG maker games.
Colton Richardson
so, fun fact. you can buy story and character skips, if you're so dead set on not playing anything before the current expansion. they're also adding in a "new game" mode, to replay the story from beginning to end.
Brayden Ross
The "fanservice" raids actually came back full circle into the story in ShB too.
Joshua Bailey
I'd say like 300+ hours if you're respecting the content of the story, maybe more Just take your time and enjoy it, no need to rush to end game
Cameron Cox
Why are you lying KH fag? No one ever did that besides you trying to falseflag to create fake rivalries between DMC and XV because you're so butthurt by how inferior KH3 ended up being to XV from sales to graphics to content to gameplay to reception.
Logan Collins
No it wouldn't because it literally couldn't function as one
Mason Foster
mostly unrelated, but, holy hell I cant wait for Dark Apocalypse. If Taro has his hands on something, and it's related to NiEr or Drakengard, its officially canon. I *need* to see this loredump that's gonna happen
Kayden Lee
Ff14 and 11 are the only relevant FF games since 9, 10 was just when the irrelevancy really started to hit. Maybe also 12 because it’s set in Ivalice among other things, but so was Vagrant Story (12 had admittedly other things tying it to FF).
William Kelly
Is Barry really in this fucking thread of all places
>get DRG AF gear >level miner afterwards, running around crystarium in miner gear >see fellow DRG in AF armor sprint by >change class to DRG instantly and start sprinting with them >we bow to each other 10 seconds later and leave to go do our own shit
Why not? Just remove the endgame grind and make it single player. The gameplay is way more involved than XV, so there's that.
Andrew Mitchell
>goon job quests
It only gets worse user. Thank god the job just gets better and better.
Josiah Wright
I like how I filtered some words and now half the thread is hidden due to retards replying.
Owen Anderson
14 could most certainly function as a singleplayer game. it would require slight rewrites, but you already have a cast of characters to serve as companions (Scions, Braves, and Job Teachers/NPCs). Dungeons and Trials would be reworked a bit, but the overall story can work just fine
Parker Rodriguez
I use them for self improvement, especially when it comes to learning a new class. The problem is when people get really obsessive over them and start gating players who have lower numbers, which then brings experiences like where they are so anal about their parse that they ruin fights. I think this is why the devs have a don't ask don't tell policy when it comes to the trackers. There is a good use for trackers but supporting them would increase the toxicity in the end game and scare players interested in raiding from even getting their feet wet.
Joseph Watson
>To fully understand Drakengard you will need to play several barely tolerable games, listen to audio dramas, watch stage plays, read unfinished manuscripts, read manga, watch youtube videos, check wiki dumps, and play through an entire MMO Taro is a mad cunt, and he must be stopped.
Brody Nelson
14 is not a FF, its a theme park MMO with a FF skin.
Altissia is literally middle ages setting its literally fantasy venice, and the society of Tenebrae and Niflheim dress in medieval fantasy style you cock gobbling retard.
I really liked the Lancer quests, for what it's worth. Having Foulques turn up in your trials to go "This isn't REAL lancing, the guild is babies" and then pour some shit on you was a laugh. Even more so when he completely fucked it up.
Dominic Allen
Niflheim always had mechs and guns while in medieval style fantasy armor you dumb fuck, tabata didnt change that at all that was always there since versus.
it's too late to stop that madman. hes slowly approaching his final form, and will shed the coils binding him to this mortal realm
I would fucking kill to have drakengard remasters with the controls and mechanics cleaned up. just keep the caim rape face
Jordan Jones
So its ff theme park not a real ff
Isaiah Sullivan
Already confirmed he's making console, PC and phone games and even one of the core TWEWY devs joined his company too.
Cameron Sanders
It was great for me at the time, getting lost in a new world. But I can absolutely see why people would dislike it, especially now after three expansions of skill pruning and people only wanting to do EX primals unsynced. Also having to do all of the post-ARR story quests.
Aaron Myers
ARR is actually good, it's just long because of filler.
Justin Miller
seeth
Dominic Butler
Boy this looks REALLY Medieval
I know 14 occasionally has people in 19th century suits and stuff, but that’s just classic jrpg Dragon Quest tier quirkiness with the majority of the clothings and setting clearly being medieval. There is nothing medieval about this, all it says was that this city was ONCE medieval in the distant past but FF7 also had buildings that were remainder from a medieval past.
>cutscenes after Innocence >just about to head towards Tempest and have probably teared up three times on the way >there's still more I don't think I can take it, lads.
Jason Kelly
There is no gameplay in 14 you just click a fucking hotbar there is nothing remotely involving about that and requires less brain capacity than anything in 15
Joseph Watson
ARR suffers from being the first expansion after a colossal failure that was 1.0. It also suffers for being the introduction so it has a lot of filler info to build HW, SB and ShB.
Those who call it bad are wrong though.
Thomas Rodriguez
ARR has some high points. It just has so many fucking filler quests.
Evan Young
You gonna be bawling on the floor when you're done
Oliver Nguyen
You have no idea.
Nolan Adams
It is.
Hudson Rogers
>click a fucking hotbar Do you also kick healers for casting holy?
Barry is the man with a plan to spread the goodness of FFXV everywhere. Whether you want it or not.
Ethan Bell
Oh don’t get me wrong it’s flawed, to much filler and a lot of people don’t enjoy the 100 post game msq, but other than that the story dungeons and trials are a lot of fun
Gabriel Morgan
I like ARR too. It's kinda naive story but I don't know...comfy?
It's less of a FF than fucking itadaki street FF vs DQ
Ayden Jenkins
>There's literally no gameplay in XV you just press a button Gee you really showed him
Jayden Brooks
Wat class
Connor Harris
There is no gameplay in 15 you just hold a fucking button. there is nothing remotely involving about that and requires less brain capacity than anything in 14
Lincoln Parker
Seethe harder retailfag, your mmo is dying and even classic will not save it
Kevin Jackson
made up boogeyman that kh fanboys invented as the source of all shitposting
Cooper Mitchell
Both tracks in the Tempest are so good, and then you realise why they sound the way they do. Would've floored me if I weren't already sitting down.
Real talk XVwould be a good game if it had XIV’s combat
Levi Carter
>why the fuck arent you healing >I should never drop below 90% HP, do your fucking job >healer adjust
I made a macro for the GNB Superbolide just to fuck with healers that dont want to DPS. i dont care that you want to ignore half of your kit to stand there overheating. help me kill shit, or i WILL shirk all this aggro to your dumbass
Blake Flores
It's as much of a FF game as 1-13 and 15. It is a main series game whether you like it or not.
Angel Parker
An autist who has been shilling FFXV for about 5-7 years now. He will never accept that FFXV was shit contrary to all the evidence.
Aiden Brooks
>You're playing Gunbreaker but they keep buffing you
>just finished ARR took me like 15 hours of reading dialogue and cutscenes to reach HW, holy shit. really enjoying the game though. FUCK contrarians and FUCK blizzard
I heard Black mage btfos red mage is that true? Being able to start red at 50 is a nice perk
Mason King
XV would be a good game if it had a complete story. Clean up the combat and have real magic, then we can talk afterwards
Charles White
I like ff15 myself but the game is super flawed. You can’t die, you can’t use real magic, you can’t use summons unless you’re about to die, and the combat is meh.
Gavin Thompson
Why yes it fucking does do you even know what venice is? Did you ignore those people are tourists and that the high class of tenebrae and niflheim literally dress the same fashion as named characters in FF14 do? You know Mihara who designed Ravus designed a ton of designs for FF14 too right?
I’m storming the imperials right now just hit level 50 a bit ago. Getting there, know about the 100 msq post game before HW but I’ll live.
Christian Lewis
Barry hates 14 more than any other FF game
Ayden Green
What do you mean BTFO? DPS wise? Never
Adrian Jackson
yeah, but no one wants to group with a BLM because they are a turret and never do mechanics properly. SMN is the best caster. RDM does shit damage, but they're fine almost anyone would rather have one in a raid than BLM.
>get labyrinth for alliance raid >pull phelgeton to the very back >trannies get heated kek
Oliver Wood
That's some renaissance era aesthetic. I love it, but it isn't medieval.
Hudson Lewis
RDM is a prog/beginner class for learning Casters. they arent terrible, but they wont be topping charts. they have a lot of utility for when you're learning new content, and they're stylish as fuck. and, most importantly, they're fun. that said, BLM is a class you learn from level 1, and, holy shit do they shit out damage like its halloween
David Morales
In XV 1 button press is 1 action immediately as you press it in 14 you are watching cutscenes on cooldowns
Jonathan Diaz
How about you focus on healing the tank sweety and not doing dps and then we’ll consider buffing you :^)
Adam Gonzalez
>party buffs Sorry I'm SAMchad, you can stay tho your holy is pretty good.
Eli Russell
Ayy boi why you trying to shit on black mage for ?
Evan Thomas
XIV would be a real game if it even had any semblance of being one, fuck even comrades is better than 14
Daniel Nguyen
I miss Stormblood DRK's AoE immortality so goddamn much.
Leo Edwards
In XIV 1 button press is 1 action immediately as you press it in 15 you are watching cutscenes while holding down a button
Lucas Green
The only healers I see with time to DPS now with how much damage tanks take is WHMs because they seemingly have infinite mana between keeping the tank at 100% and spamming holy all day.
You still have it, DRKs are the easiest tanks to heal in lv 80 dungeons. The good ones that is.
Connor Ward
theres a lot of new tanks, and people are still getting used to the new/reduced mitigation tools. I've had to explain in 4 different dungeons that Arms Length is also a tank CD, for the Slow effect it applies. DPS use it to mot be moved, Tanks use it for reduction
Andrew Barnes
I did black mage as my first level 80 and wish I did samurai. It’s a bitch not knowing fights as a black mage, samurai doesn’t have to really deal with it.
Don’t bother giving him (yous) he’s so wrong it’s not worth replying to him lol
Brody Garcia
Please show me you tapping an attack button in 14 or dodge rolling to cancel animations or doing aerial attacks mid combo or sidesteps or parries or shield blocks that employ blockstun or directional inputs or manual finishers
oh wait none of that exists in 14 because its just hotbar cutscenes on cooldowns
You can earn tomestones of poetics by doing Level 50 dungeons and buy Ironworks gear with it, as well as upgrade materials. Take all that to Gerolt in the South Shroud and I think it comes to either i120 or i130, which will keep you geared until like the third or fourth dungeon in HW.
Nice I’ll keep my eyes peeled. It’s just cool my ilvl has been lagging behind my current until I hit 50 and got this set now it’s outpaced it quite a bit
Andrew Morgan
Max ARR gear is i130 Max HW gear is i270 Max SB gear is i400 Max ShB gear is ??? but current max ilvl is i444.
You can get i120 gear from the mordhona merchant and then upgrade it in north shroud for i130.
Parker Hill
A lot of the new zones music strangely reminds me of RO... when are we RO bros gonna go home?
Easton Gomez
Awesome thanks man I’ll look into it
Blake Taylor
fug.. im already lv 56 warrior. did i goof? dungeon roulette is a ton of exp and I used all the poetics on the ilvl 120 gear since I hit the cap. fellow WAR bro
>ShB has no bad music >every zone theme is like a cocaine >dungeon battle theme is dope
Luis Williams
There's nothing wrong with having a SAM in your raid, especially now that selfish DPS are better than in stormblood. The problem is that BLMs never do mechanics, their class design makes them the worst class in the game for doing mechanics. Sure, you can have a great BLM that lines up their teleport and instant casts with every mechanic, but it's requiring some one to know the entire fight like the back of their hand. Better to just never raid with a BLM.
Parker Nelson
>tapping attack button for manual finishers and attack combos >talling r1+triangle for warpstrikes and triangle for free warps >moving L stick for directional inputs >using dpad to weapon switch from lance to katana cope
Jeremiah Cook
>janny moves the other thread >leaves this one up ???
Charles Flores
>Why yes it fucking does do you even know what venice is? Yes, I have been there. Just because a lot of medieval buildings are preserved there, doesn’t mean it’s still in the medieval period. >and that the high class of tenebrae and niflheim literally dress the same fashion as named characters in FF14 do? They dress like that in a more ceremonial fashion as an expression of their status, also it’s specifically the high class who dress like that. Those clothings aren’t very medieval either, they just fit within a medieval-inspired setting because of jrpg logic and you can see far more medieval clothing in the NPCs of 14. Everyone dresses in a medieval fashion in 14, because aside from the occasional 19th century clothing and miqote mini-skirts, it’s the only clothing available in Eorzea
Nah, you can do Binding Coil whenever. If you do it before a certain point in the story you can get an extra line of dialogue or two with a certain character as well. Kinda like if you go into Heavensward with Dragoon at 50 and job quests complete, Estinien will make note of it now and then.
Landon Wood
>What the fuck are you gonna do for the next 5 months before the next patch hits? Play other games. YoshiP's said before this isn't a game that compels you to play indefinitely. I got my awesome story, levelled to 80, had a great weekend with my friends, and in another couple weeks I'll do something else. >when literally everything else about the game besides the story is abysmal? Not at all true. The raids and trials are fun in their own right. My buddies and I ran Orbonne Monastery for the fun of it. Same reason for doing Savages. The music is also god-tier.
there is nothing there other than padding with far less variety than anything in XV, fuck everything in 14 is done the same exact way the other difference is the stats affecting it which is literally nothing compared to all the unique combat mechanics in XV per character and weapon type
Joseph Brooks
Janny...8.2...our time...soon
Justin Robinson
Where do you trade the Archaetania's horn?
Christian Wood
there's one job quest for every job after the main scenario and role quests
Christopher Walker
this
James Thomas
What's the point? Just hold one button you can achieve the same result. The game is easy enough to yield the same result.
It's like you think FFXV is a masterpiece of action games when DMCV exists and actually awards you with style.
John Kelly
I'm probably going to quit the game once I clear Savage in a month or two, but Shadowbringers is already way better than WoD, Legion, or BFA. I had fun the entire time leveling to 80, which was 40+ hours, had fun doing both EX fights for another 15 or so hours, and been having a decent time leveling my 2nd job. I'm pretty much done playing for now until the raid comes out, but I had more fun this week than in the entire last 3 expansions of WoW. I had maybe 3 hours of fun in WoD doing highmaul for hte first time, maybe 15 hours of fun in Legion doing the Mythics for the first time and EN for the first time, and honestly maybe about 30 minutes of fun in BFA.
Nathan Allen
>all we get from original Minfilia is a nod, and few words about how we need companions
fucking cunt, after all we've been through hope she went to hell after this
>all the unique combat mechanics in XV per character and weapon type This weapon attacks faster but does less damage This weapon attacks slower but does more damage Both weapons have the exact same APM woah...
Nathaniel Lee
Yes, and farming doma castle before the first boss
Are there queues to play? Wondering if i should waste my time putting an older hdd into my ps4 while in waiting for a new drive to come friday? Im gonna watch stranger things tomorrow during the day but might want to jump in an out
Samuel Morales
Except that city literally is fucking fantasy venice which is exactly what he was talking about
the niflheim soldiers in medieval armor with guns literally existed identically since versus, the niflheim airships with giant blast canons and magitek mechs literally existed since versus
you're a fucking retard and still ignored all of tenebrae and niflheim characters being in medieval fantasy or high fantasy attire, all of which had those costume designs since versus too
If having to use your brain, something I'm sure you aren't familiar with, is padding then you'd be right. But there are 20 or so combat classes alone that each have more variety than XVs combat and can come with different rots or playstyles based on user preference. A different weapon to do the same shit, really isn't as intricate as your monkey brain thinks it is.
Brody Lewis
>He needs coddling from Minfilia >He doesn't know that your closest and truest friend has been beside you all along
BLM has the highest DPS ceiling in the game, but requires you to know mechanics well enough to position well. RDM is a jack of all trades that is good for progression.
How did they take some one-off side quest catboy NPC and make him just as beloved and cool as Haurchefant?
Lincoln Garcia
>Wait for 15 minutes listening to the Shadowbringers theme, refusing to leave the area and do something productive while I wait >Load in to get 7 clownsuits and slutglams >They fail every other attack and grab a juicy stack of vuln for their trouble
So you never played the game or know what you're talking about, or know about break % or crit boosts on manual finishers which is different on different weapons, or on pure functional level of objective different combat inputs
in 14 everything is a fucking hotbar, everything is the same, there is no mechanical variety there is only stats
By having him endure constant hardship so that you might live.
Andrew Clark
By making both of them your biggest fanboys.
Jose Sullivan
THROW WIDE THE GATES
Christian Hughes
Barry can you just fuck off, everybody thinks you're a joke.
Nolan Morales
is this english dub shit through all exps? cause jesus it fuckin sucks
Daniel Lewis
You never use your brain in 14
Wyatt Robinson
>Click hotbar accurately 31 times a minute >Do it for 30 minutes >Watch a cutscene Ftfy bubs
Aiden Bennett
>wait 30 minutes because lmaotank >get in with 7 normally-dressed players >clear it on the first attempt completely blind could not have asked for a more kino outcome
>oh cool hes going to summon other versions of me >THEYRE THE PARTY MEMBERS FOR THE TRIAL
K I N O
Cooper Johnson
Does the cutie elezen worker in the crystal mean use face 3 or face 4?
Benjamin Stewart
>Hold button until the game tells you to press button for cool >Combat is so garbage they had to patch in a retarded ring that lets you play a barebones action game to offset the mind-numbing dullness that is your tepid aborted mess
Nicholas Hill
I think it's more than being fanboys, those two NPCs seem to genuinely care about your character as a friend, even more so than the Scions.
It's better from heavensward onward but it's more of the old timey accent shit if that's what you have a problem with
Charles Parker
I was like, YO GRAHA LESS GO.
Then your character is fucking posing like a goddamn model while 7 pillars light up around you holy shit LESS GO.
Isaac Mitchell
everyone gets recast in 3.0
Nolan Wood
without spoiling can a lorefriend explain why light is stasis while dark is growth? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
Thomas Rodriguez
I do when I'm crafting or putting together rotations at least. I never just grab some discord shit and roll with it.
Jackson Peterson
20 unique weapon types which offer as much difference as an entire job in 14, plus 4 unique combat systems per character and an extra 5th for the armiger unleashed combat mechanics which are completely different to his regular combat too
Liam Nguyen
Tank queues that bad?
Landon Sanchez
They're essentially placeholders in ARR, just like the story. The whole thing was cobbled together so they could get the game out the door. The English voicework after ARR ends quickly improves.
Jaxon Sanchez
>7 people in AF gear walk out of the pillars holy fuck i was honestly expecting meme glams not a single fucking lala came out either
Ethan Gutierrez
>Except that city literally is fucking fantasy venice which is exactly what he was talking about It’s modern fantasy venice >the niflheim soldiers in medieval armor with guns literally existed identically since versus, the niflheim airships with giant blast canons and magitek mechs literally existed since versus That’s literally all that’s really left from the medieval concept of versus, the very reason why these countries were medieval was because the invested their crystals in guns/magitek instead of magic and that led to their economy going bust so it was supposed to be a switcharoo >you're a fucking retard and still ignored all of tenebrae and niflheim characters being in medieval fantasy or high fantasy attire, all of which had those costume designs since versus too Only because they couldn’t change what they showed in the versus 13 trailers, they made them just wear these clothings as a ceremonial thing instead of because they actually came from medieval countries. Pic-related (Niflheim) doesn’t look medieval at all, keep in mind that all the aspects of Nilfheim instead of military technology was to be medieval so there shouldn’t even be a single speck of modern architecture at all because nilfhiem wouldn’t even be capable of building any of these buildings.
Tabata completely ruined everything that versus 13 was supposed to be, and completely missed the point in favour of his gay fujo-bait shit.
same, although my party had 5-6 deaths due to the off tank not using tank stance and letting whoever was 2nd in aggro die to the tank buster
Xavier Lopez
>even more so than the Scions. Really? Because ShB actually showed me how much they cared about you.
Almost all of the time they always say (non-verbatim) "You've done enough, we'll handle this. Take a rest." Them being so desperate to save you as well.
This actually was the best expansion to show how close the group actually is. And it did.
Hudson Bailey
Fuck off Kevin
Jason Parker
Dub is the best part of the fucking game you loser weeb.
Kevin Parker
>find the suspicious man >he's black
what did koji mean by this
Adrian Cook
requires less brain power than popping a potion in xv
Joshua Moore
>light peaceful, serene and all that (stagnation) >dark chaos, conflict and all that (growth from conflict)
FFaggots: >OMG KINOBRINGERS >BEST STORY >FEELS FEELS KINO KINO
Actual Game: >Dude what if like... angels were bad >and like... the bad guy was sad that his friends are dead so its understandable >whoa deep *hits bong*
so "kino"
Adrian Bell
When do I use SSS on MNK?
Connor Brown
Ok hold up.
Gavin Green
Good riddance
Colton Campbell
How many tendies do you get for removing a thread about a VIDEOGAME on a VIDEOGAME board hmmm Janny? Oh don't tell me you didn't even get your daily szechuan sauce. I weep for you Janny.
Christian Campbell
Imagine listening to voices you can't understand on purpose and thinking you're more cultured for doing so
Its obvious you never played the game, especially since there is no button indicators telling the player to do anything there that they do The ring was always in the game you dumb fuck, its literally an end game story weapon, good job proving you never played the game
meanwhile 14 is the most braindead hotbar clicking droll shit in existence, fucking bahamut fight in comrades shits on any primal fight in 14
I put that shit on JP a few minutes into the game and kept it that way. Nothing beats when the bosses announce their ultimates in broken English
Isaiah Ward
Cry more, barry
Wyatt Johnson
based xavierposter
Ethan Bennett
I find it hilarious that Barry can still think that FFXV has good combat when literally everyone's reaction to the combat demo for FFVIIR was "thank god it isn't FFXV combat"
Its obvious you never played the game, especially since all you keep doing is repeating "hotbar clicking" and saying the game is shit. Stop pretending XV isn't filled with big flashy buttom prompts telling you DO THING NOW DO IT NOW FAGGOT, nobody's buying it.
Levi King
>t.cutscene skipper
Henry Perry
Fuck the source Fuck Garleans Fuck Eorzeans
Should just stay in the 1st
Best part about Shadowbringers was there was no dumbass Garlean shit, no ala mhigo shit, no dumb ass eorzea shit. The main setting for the game is so shit. Heavensward was way better than Stormblood because Ishgard was an isolated place with very little to do with Eorzea. Going to be awful going back to some boring ass Garlean shit after such a good expansion plot and setting.
Hopefully the raid is good too, anything will be better than dumbass Omega's fan service reliance though.
Jaxson Bailey
>fucking bahamut fight in comrades shits on any primal fight in 14
I wonder how many times this fag has been BTFO across all the threads he's tried to shit up. How many times has he been proven wrong only to again and again shit up another thread with that abomination of a game? inb4 you didn't try to prove me wrong so I'm right. Fuck off you'll get two other Yous telling you off
Jordan Long
>JUDGUMENTO BREAAAKAAAAA I’m a sucker for attacks being announced.
Leo Hernandez
here's a (you), since 8.2 didn't really give you anything anyway
I don't get it. Does someone really hate ffxv so much that they're willing to annoy everyone with it by constantly badgering anything even remotely relevant that comes out after it? I thought it was okay, but it just looks worse and worse every time this weirdo champions it.
Gabriel Mitchell
Omega's not that bad, Ghost Train is my most favorite raid in the game.
Jace White
how do i get people to do zonureskin maps with me, no one joins my party finders
Levi Adams
These threads convinced me to get the starter edition after not playing MMOs for years and I had a lot of fun. Does it get better after ARR?
Noah Ramirez
Second Phase of last trial roll out yet? Or do we need to wait for EX version.
Josiah Long
No Allagan shit.
Brody Cooper
They'll give us back energy drain r-right?
Jose Ortiz
This. I wish we can stay in the first. It feels much more alive than the source. >black mages and sorcerers are common as fuck in the first >white mages and healers are common and aren’t simple conjurers relying on faggy elementals >the zones and their fates tell the history of each region >Lakeland is all about the classic demoord coming to power >primal are part of the fae folk and aren’t just tempering everyone left and right >races are much better fleshed out than the source >dwarves made me like lalafell
Michael Sullivan
immensely
Adam Roberts
GNB. Un-fucking-doubtedly.
Ryan Morales
Oh look a boss battle design from someone in ff14 made.
Tyler Howard
each expansion you see that they learned from before and just got better and better, enjoy the game
Nathaniel Morales
Prepare for a ride.
Leo Miller
100% agree with this
my favorite part of this expansion were the fantasy elements and no fucking garleans
>DUDE TECHMAJIK >DUDE ALLAG >
Evan Bennett
I can tell you are a /pol/tard because only /pol/tards use that gif, nothing against your posts btw
Connor Edwards
GNB > DRK What's a WAR? Is it those weird axe DRKs that spin and don't mitigate shit?
Joseph Baker
Hell fucking yes it does. Heavensward (expac1) is great shit, Stormblood (expac2) is decent shit, and ShadowBringers (this expac) puts most single player games to shame.
>the Ronkan empire weren’t a bunch of faggots like allag with tech >they just imbued magic with stones >no edgy fedora tipping they worshipped a plethora of gods unlike allagan and garleans who worship technology and mankind
Jonathan Flores
What's the best class setup? It's one of the few MMOs I haven't tried yet.
Ryder Lee
I agree Eorzea is trash, it always was, even in 1.x its just shit created by low iq retards pretending to be writers
Carter Flores
>That Eternal Wind I would buy an Orchestrion Roll of that part so fast
Shadowbringers completely shits on every jrpg released the past 10 years with an amazing story. He’ll, I think it’s safe to say this is the absolute best FF story, even better than 4.
Anthony Powell
Both SCH and WHM are fine. SCH is even still arguably the strongest healing job, it's just boring to play.
AST is absolutely fucked though.
Logan Hughes
>Lyna's voice breaking down as she pounds the stone slabs God damnit, man
wrong that gif usage originated on PSL forums, mostly Lookism, some /pol/fags adopted it
Carter Long
DPS for your first class, otherwise you'll risk dying from boredom during the MSQ. I did Thaumaturge/Black Mage my first time around and it was a lot of fun. I hear Archer/Bard is a lot of fun too.
>a single fujoshi created the best story, atmosphere and world, that Tanaka and his 500 employees couldn’t do
Jaxson Bell
Don't shitpost about Omega fag.
Jose Ross
>not putting out so much dps that everything dies super quick and healers are worthless
Jonathan Young
>OUR TRAGEDY MUST NEVER AGAIN COME TO PASS!
Caleb Wood
Shadowbringers unironically can be released as single player RPG game. Same for Heavensward with more exposed setting
Nolan Green
>Mitigation by extermination
Eli Phillips
maybe...personally I preferred Dravania locations visually (not story-wise though, I guess story is in fact better overall in SHB)
Liam Reed
Thanks, is melee any good or should I stick to ranged?
Jack Brooks
I'd say this is only possible with a PLD, but with any other tank it wouldn't work
Hudson Reed
Which is designed to look like a middle ages city you dumb fuck
And wrong, Tenebrae is medieval fantasy and ravus has the same attire he did since versus iedolas, verstael, aranea, ardyn niflheim soldiers etc are all medieval fantasy attire too which all existed since versus, niflheim city itself was never designed to look medieval only the higher society was. old dev board showed niflheim and it literally was a modern city same as it is in the final, fuck they even made glauca look MORE medieval fantasy armor in the final compared to his original more mechanical looking design
Tabata didn't change a single thing about the worlds look or design for the outside world, lucis outside insomnia was akways Arizona looking desert and roads with gas stations, then forests further on altissia was always a city on the water looking as it does tenebrae is still a medieval fantasy kingdom with all the royals and nobles in fantasy clothing too which ravus still has and which they only emphasized more with Luna than the modern clothes stella only wore
Niflheim always had advanced magitek, giant mech airships, guns and other firearms, they were always a technology empire that also was modern society but dressed in old fashioned medieval armour alongside their mechs and guns, they also had trucks too, meaning niflheim had automotive vehicles meaning they had modern society, their dress is the same reason they still dress that way, same reason tenebrae still does
>My dormant brethren, dream now of a dark tomorrow...
Nicholas Adams
It's great on big pulls now that I've lost shadow flare. Please use it.
Aiden Stewart
I don't play any melee classes so I don't have much experience. I do know that Rogue/Ninja is currently the hotness for melee dps, but that gets unlocked at level 10 so you'll have to play something else until you reach that point.
Logan Walker
>samefagging now We can see the ip counter, barry, you pathetic fuck
Joshua Howard
Yep, I think it’s safe to say ShB blew HW and SB out of the water.