Ugh... what could have been :(

>not taking Constantinople
cringe and not based

When the fuck are paradox gonna pull their heads out their arses and make Vicky3?

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>>>/gsg/

>the left admits to wanting exploit slave labor and kill people in mass quantities
wtf?

Hopefully never, have you seen HOI4 and Impturdator?

>Trannies in Gulags
>Pedos LARPing as Draq Queen fans in Gulags
>Neets and Welfare Capitalists forced to work
>Jannies getting paid
>Peak Aesthetics
>Top Tier Music, only second to DDR because it was "Fatherland meets Motherland"

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It's literally not worth the time, infamy or diplomatic points to take. One of the quirks of Victoria 2.

>Breaking up the UK
Scot detected!!

If only he won... Wouldnt have to deal with all this shit.

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*cringes until cum*

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churchill was really close to making this a reality

>>>/reddit/

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Ugh...

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French separatism is a meme, nobody speaks Breton, if anything France should grow larger (monaco, luxemburg, west switzerland and half of belgium)

(((they))) support the EU

ahem

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commies can't even create things, only copy

> Fixes Europe
> Alsace Lorraine not given back to Germany
No

>independent Galicia
>independent Flanders and Wallonia
>Prussian corridor II
>Hungary gets western Ukraine but not Romanian Transylvania
>Bulgarian Macedonia
Cringe

t. poolack

>Macedonia

FYROMian pls

Croatia is fixed, fuck the rest. I like this.

if she hasn't killed any men, why is she giving a non-sequitur response lol

>""macedonians"" actually got bullied so hard by the Greeks that they renamed their country "North Macedonia"

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See

>Germany doesn't have their Prussian territory
It's shit, and you're shit.

t.german

Prussia is shit

i want to kill commies and socialists
liberals as well

war please

Communism and socialism are inherently terrible ideologies

I'm French.
But nice try.

>*fixes Europe*

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I'm on the other end of the political spectrum to communists but this is tough guy cringe

BASEEEEED

What am I looking at?

>lutizenbund
>rugen

kinda like it

>GERMANY AND AUSTRIA MUST UNIFY!
>BUT EVERYONE ELSE MUST BREAKUP!
why do wehraboos do this?

Epic meme MAGApede! Show those libtard commies what we stand for!

>no independent carpathian rus

Fuck off

>1912
>only 1k industry score
garbage singleplayer fantasy fulfillment.

>Małopolska
>somehow going all the way into Kujawy and Pomorze

I dont even

>Gdańsk
>Kaszebe
omegalul

>Giving Greece Asia Minor

Byzanbased!

>Victoria 2
>working economy
Pick one.

Extremely based, and extremely redpilled

based and redpilled

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>greece blue and not purple

>>*fixes europe**

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>Giving Denmark rightful clay.

Nice.

Why pretend maps always go for giving any group that ever complained in history a country or three giant blobs encompassing the entire world?

>this glassed eye cuck faught for saudis against yemen
>edgy fedora tipping tier quote
Literal cuck.

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>serbia independent at that point

Does your underage faggot ass doesn't know that these kinds of quotes are widespread through out history?

>implying this didn't come first

idiot crapitalist detected

lmao what a fucking poser

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Honestly, we should've just conquered the whole damn continent after we won WWII. Fucking Europeans can't do anything right.

NOOOOOOOOO MY RED ARMY THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

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>europoors
You guys are small-time.

>dumblr

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nice cope, seething tranny

>post yfw a lot of those Soviet and German stories are straight up false and were fabricated for the sake of propaganda like that Soviet lesbian couple that supposedly destroyed a shit tone of German tanks in Romaina with a t-26????

Does your moronic zoomer ass not know that the soviets fabricated all those stories about "STRONK VILLED COMMUNIST WAIFU WHO DON'T NEED TO NAZZI" and the reason that line was in that drama was because of the Pollock who had a kill count in the lord knows how many.

Imagine being a geography student in this world

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>litterally say that everyone did it
>starts talking about soviets
>muh fabrication
Literal retard.

I really dislike quoting wikipedia, but those people really existed en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

>Believing Soviet propaganda
What's next you're gonna tell me the Wittman crew killed 100 billion Sherman tanks in western Europe?

How is that soviet propaganda? Good sniper exist in every nation.

>Hungary getting anything
they are Huns,they got nothing to do with Europe.

Redpill me, Yea Forums. Why should I hate communism?

Because goverment said so!

the Soviets were known to chalk this shit up constantly, I'll believe a hundred, no way 300

Its bad because reasons, and since we live in a world where you're either a communist or a fascist, that means you should be a fascist.

Autistic mismanagement that will lead to the deaths of millions and basically a dictatorship but not really bros because real communism is gonna work soon just give your comrade all of you power
so in conclusion a dictatorship but without the cool stuff

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>lost territory
>only reason they could get a peace treaty was because of England and France
>majority of USSR casualties were due to frostbite which is confirmed by both Russian and Finnish historians
>meme sniper allegedly killed gorrillions, then got a dick in his mouth that ripped his cheek and could never show up to Leningrad
>backstabbed Hans when Finns realized that the Third Reich was losing
>inner politics influenced by USSR/Russia even to this day

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>snopes.com has investigated the claims that female Soviet snipers killed 248,000 est German men and have found them to be true. We have investigated many reports of various engagements with the Nazi Wehrmacht
>reports cited include: Major Vasiley Gopnik (relieved of command after being found balls deep in a 12 year old girl during the siege of Stalingrad), General Igor Ivannovich (relieved of command for keep a harem of prostitutes instead of commanding the division), and others
>Status: CONFIRMED

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>no prior sniping experience
the guy was olympic level sport shooter.

>Russians lie about the Casualties from 50,000 which was still awful for about then in the 50s admit it was 100,000 then change it again in the 70s to 130,000 then backpedal to 42,000 then finally after the Union falls apart admits it was 250,000

Socialism basically has become anti-Christian Utopianism. Just go back to the Thomas Paine and Thomas More, you don't need the middle men like Marx and Engels.

Communism is an insidious ideology used by assholes, morons and wannabe-dictators who use it to convince gullible people into believing that the world is perfect and all we have to do is share, work together and give everything we own to the state.
There's a reason every single communist regime in history has been a dictatorship: it's because it's really easy to use to convince idiots to put you in power. After all, as the wise leader who led your people to communism, surely you and your family and friends have a right to a better life than others? You're still equal, after all! Just...more equal than others.

>the Soviets were known to chalk this shit up constantly
Just trust me, bro.

>Biggest Army in the world
>Country with outdated equipment and barely enough men to field
>lol we'll be there in 2 weeks
>SOVIETS BRING FUCKING ANTI-TANK GUNS EVEN THOUGH FINLAND DOESN'T HAVE TANKS
>ANTI-TANK GUNS GET CAPTURED AND USED AGAINST SOVIET TANKS
JUST FUCK MY UNION UP

Even wikishit calls you out on your retardation and there are multiple books written by both Finnish and Russian historians together to keep bias to a minimum, so keep on making shit up, faggot.

>You're still equal, after all! Just...more equal than others.
>Gommunism is about everyone being equall.
When will this meme stop?

You should hate free healthcare, education and housing.

>he official Soviet figure in 1940 for their dead was 48,745. More recent Russian estimates vary: in 1990, Mikhail Semiryaga claimed 53,522 dead and N. I. Baryshnikov, 53,500 dead. In 1997, Grigoriy Krivosheyev claimed 126,875 dead and missing, and total casualties of 391,783 with 188,671 wounded.[19] In 1991, Yuri Kilin claimed 63,990 dead and total casualties of 271,528. In 2007, he revised the estimate of dead to 134,000[20] and in 2012, he updated the estimate to 138,533 irretrievable losses.[200] In 2013, Pavel Petrov stated that the Russian State Military Archive has a database confirming 167,976 killed or missing along with the soldiers' names, dates of birth, and ranks.[21] There were 5,572 Soviet prisoners of war in Finland.[23] The prisoners' fate after repatriation is unclear—Western sources suspect they were killed at NKVD camps.[201][202]

Between 1,200 and 3,543 Soviet tanks were destroyed. The official figure was 611 tank casualties, but Yuri Kilin found a note received by the head of the Soviet General Staff, Boris Shaposhnikov, which reports 3,543 tank casualties and 316 tanks destroyed. According to the Finnish historian Ohto Manninen, the 7th Soviet Army lost 1,244 tanks during the breakthrough battles of the Mannerheim Line in mid-winter. In the immediate aftermath of the war, the Finnish estimate of the number of lost Soviet tanks was 1,000–1,200.[24][25][26] The Soviet Air Forces lost around 1,000 aircraft, but less than half of them were combat casualties.[26][27]
OH NO NO NO NO
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

>Communism is an insidious ideology used by assholes, morons and wannabe-dictators who use it to convince gullible people into believing that the world is perfect and all we have to do is share, work together and give everything we own to the state.

I love how brainwashed with American propaganda you are. Let me guess, your teacher told you that Communism is when you average everyone's grades in class, too?

oh shit we have a wikipedia scholar here!!!!

No it's when you hand all power over to a select group of people for apparently making sure everyone gets fed and stays equal, expect for political opponents of course, and maybe some poor people, also people that have nice things that worked for it, oh and officers that don't agree with us, actually scratch that last one, kill the officers instead

>>SOVIETS BRING FUCKING ANTI-TANK GUNS EVEN THOUGH FINLAND DOESN'T HAVE TANKS
Technically had them, nobody knew how many, though they were also used for penetrating nests.
>>ANTI-TANK GUNS GET CAPTURED AND USED AGAINST SOVIET TANKS
Which didn't get all that far because of the slopes on which the Mannerheim line was built. In the end, the USSR lost some soldiers and equipment but got a bit of a proper training before WWII. And the only reason you weren't fucked afterwards was because you timely switched your alliance from Axis to Allies, fucking jews.

>The Soviet Air Forces lost around 1,000 aircraft, but less than half of them were combat casualties.[26][27]
That alone is bullshit for a fact, since I've read about the state of the soviet aviation, for which by the way there are unclassified documents available to the public in Russia. And the numbers can't be even half of that since the Soviets were using mostly WW1 crank up planes back then which couldn't even fly anywhere deep into Finnish territory of back then.

>even wikishit proves you wrong!
>ctrl + v the part that literally states otherwise
cope

>No it's when you hand all power over to a select group of people for apparently making sure everyone gets fed and stays equal,
Not communism.
>expect for political opponents of course, and maybe some poor people
I have no clue what poor people have to do with this.
>also people that have nice things that worked for it,
Because eveyone gets the same pay?

>>even wikishit proves you wrong!
Not that user, but that is a fact.

>dude just give the gov full power and it will dissolve itself eventually lmao btw enjoy your bread lines
commies are gullible subhumans

Cant believe communists only copy stuff. Oh wait...

>talking to butthurt russians instead of posting the ugh... picture

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Your faggoty ass realizes that even shitholes like Finland are doing it, right? Except they're going the full on Sweden approach and sucking on nigger dicks. I'm not even talking about fucking US where everyone in that country is fucking owned by the backstage government.

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They had so few compared to the amount of tanks the Soviets had on them
also
>Giving your enemy any means to counter your own armor
it was Soviet retardation plain and simple, hell in general the Finns only had enough supplies for a couple of weeks at best, capturing so much Soviet equipment basically solidified that it would not be the quick war Stalin wanted
one more thing
>The point of the Winter war even with Soviet bias was to secure more territory for Leningrad
>ends up forcing the Finnish to ally with the Axis because you invaded them once before and the only reason Leningrad isn't taken was because Finland didn't want to push forward and Germany wanted to make a grab for Moscow instead

Based

Languages?

There's a reason commie superpowers don't exist, because it's a shit model lmao get fucked commie subhumans

>Implying former redstates are doing any better with their constant economic problems
I give it a couple of years, maybe even a decade that Putin gets overthrown

Didn't read your post, cry some more little bitch :)

don't you dare fuck with the territorial integrity of Great Britain you disgusting G*rman shit stain

itt Russian and Tankie cope

How is it possible to own that population, land (including Bohema and the Ruhr valley! The two most industrious areas outside of Belgium!), and those resources, and still be 3rd in the power rankings?
Very shitty player.

>but muh map painting!
If you play Vicky II as anything other than an economic management simulator, you're part of the plebian pop group and deserve to be taxed at 95%.

The reason commie superpowers dont exist is because there are swathes of bootlickers like you who will defend to the death the right of your owners to exploit your labour.

I'd rather be a commie subhuman than a fucking slave.

>like GS games
>like pro wrestling
>/gsg/ and Yea Forums are the two biggest vectors for cancer on the site

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>They had so few compared to the amount of tanks the Soviets had on them
I hope you aren't trying to cite wiki there. And again, nobody knew how many.
>hell in general the Finns only had enough supplies for a couple of weeks at best
Again with this dumb meme. What is it with Finns and constantly exaggerating?
>capturing so much Soviet equipment basically solidified that it would not be the quick war Stalin wanted
Nigger half the fucking equipment you captured you left in place because if twas unusable due to frost. You can even find photos of that. Literally the Finnish tactic was to destroy parts of nests in the line and other tunnels so that soviets would freeze.
>>ends up forcing the Finnish to ally with the Axis because you invaded them once before and the only reason Leningrad isn't taken was because Finland didn't want to push forward and Germany wanted to make a grab for Moscow instead
Yes, because multiple attempts at trying to cross into USSR territory before it was nothing, right? Like the fucking Aunus expedition.
And I remember about USSR establishing a temporary government in Finland, however that was after Finland started to make claims that they were going to "take back their own territory".

>The reason commie superpowers dont exist is because there are swathes of bootlickers like you
>The "Muh western sanctions argument"

>Take over all of Germany
>Still only third rank
The person playing is SHIT at Victoria.

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Imagine the person that took the time to make this, I wish him well and hope he enjoys doing stuff like this

Well, I'm from a former commie state that's been under the US for a good while now and we're dying off way faster than Russia. And our anti-russian rhetoric hasn't been paying off at all, so we're trying to slowly get back on good terms with Russia. Incidentally, so is also majority of the EU.

>Denmark not at the bottom of the ocean

soviets fear the BIG KRAKOW COCK

So by your logic, since evolution can be used to convince people to exterminate "inferior" races, we should hate evolution too

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youtube.com/watch?v=Etfhio8vrXE
>even the Tank museum says that Finland hardly had any tanks that would make a significant difference, that were just for testing and most didn't arrive until arrived in 39
>Nigger half the fucking equipment you captured you left in place because if twas unusable due to frost
>he thinks I'm talking about the ones the Soviets left behind and not the equipment they took from the dead Soviets once their armor column was stopped
>es, because multiple attempts at trying to cross into USSR territory before it was nothing, right? Like the fucking Aunus expedition.
And I remember about USSR establishing a temporary government in Finland, however that was after Finland started to make claims that they were going to "take back their own territory".
yes because an expedition in fucking 1919 is a perfectly good reason to invade a neutral nation and set up an illegitimate puppet government that even leftist finns don't want, hell, it was pretty clear to the world the Soviets weren't gonna stop at just Karelia and were going to annex Finland like they did with the Baltics, hence why they wanted that buffer given how that's where most of Finnish defenses were

>like pro wrestling
have sex

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Russia will probably collapse by the time that happens with many protest and urges by the public for Putin to leave

>“There is no Jew who does not hope with all his heart that the Soviet Union will survive and be victorious” -Zionist Review

YIKES!

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>Implying they would've stopped with Germany.

Based Anschluss

>implying its Greece

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>Grossg*rmania
if by fixed you mean ruined then yes, the only ideal one is this

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>not the equipment they took from the dead Soviets once their armor column was stopped
Might I remind you that a lot of the equipment the soviets used couldn't even fire because of the cold weather, because the oil they used was quite old at the time. On top of Finns having automatic weapons, where as soviets didn't.
>yes because an expedition in fucking 1919 is a perfectly good reason to invade a neutral nation
That's just one of the examples I'm citing, what I'm referring to in general is this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat
Also, if you've read about the Mannerheim line, then it's construction began way before any kind of Soviet aggression began onto Finland.
>The line was constructed in two phases: 1920–1924 and 1932–1939. By November 1939, when the Winter War began, the line was by no means complete.
To say that it was just OK to leave everything as is with Finland, when everyone knew that Germany was going to attack, was well, naive and idiotic, to say the least.
>like they did with the Baltics
Well, as a Balt, I always find this very funny, because there are some very interesting documents that are publicly available in Russia, that our historians just pretend that don't exist at all, but that's a different topic altogether.

Well, as someone who can easily read russian and check on these "many" protest and urges, all I can say it's a bit of laughing matter at most.

>west switzerland should be france
I know the Swiss speak a lot of languages but no. Leave Switzerland alone. They are perfect and pure. They are like the Amish if Amish were really successful mountain bankers and technologically advanced.

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BASED

Left is a commie, right is a capitalist.

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Based retard

>SOVIETS BRING FUCKING ANTI-TANK GUNS EVEN THOUGH FINLAND DOESN'T HAVE TANKS
>ANTI-TANK GUNS GET CAPTURED AND USED AGAINST SOVIET TANKS
Is there any other war in history that was more fun to read about?

T. Latvian Soviet cock-sleeve
most of those expedition where in the middle of the Finnish Civil war, you know that time where the Soviets said "move onward to berlin over the corpse of Poland" and had plans to expand into Western Europe and beyond
>it's okay when we attack Neutral Nations but when the Nazis do it? now that's just wrong
Reminder the Soviets made a pact with the Nazis to divide Poland, there was no reason to invade Finland other than Stalin's autism with wanting all former territory of the late Russian Empire, the whole Leningrad argument is even more retarded given how it swayed Finland to ally with the Axis after the Winter war

Australia's war against emus is pretty good. Also, Italy in either World War is loaded with gems.

TWELVE BATTLES OF THE ISONZOO RIVER

>literally every Jew with power in the Soviet Union except Kaganovich was killed by Stalin
holy fucking based

>thinking Punk getting BTFO in MMA makes MMA any more entertaining than wrestling

AJ Styles jumping around the ring by himself would be more entertaining than 90% of all groundcuddle fights.

>well, as someone who can easily read russian and check on these "many" protest and urges
>Implying the Russian economy isn't a fucking mess and only getting worse because of Putin's shit and most protest end with disperse by the Police

>T. Latvian Soviet cock-sleeve
But why the asshurt, though? Are you some sort of a overly aggressive nigger that can't into civil discussion?
>"move onward to berlin over the corpse of Poland"
In 1918 to 1920? Some of the most heated years of the civil war, restructuring and fighting off multiple smaller armies at the soviet borders? Again, no matter how you try and paint it, the fact still stays that back then you tried to directly enter Soviet territory. Which, no matter how you look at it, when preparing for a battle with a big foe, is a huge security risk. This isn't a "well will they or will they not" question. The fact is that strategically that is the sane thing to do.
>Reminder the Soviets made a pact with the Nazis to divide Poland
And a reminder that the only copy of the supposed pact mysteriously showed up in the US after WWII and had multiple errors in it when brought to Nuremberg trials.
>there was no reason to invade Finland other than Stalin's autism with wanting all former territory of the late Russian Empire
I mean, that is a possibility, sure, but instead of pretending to be able to read the psychological image of a person who's been long deceased, I'd rather look at strategy and plain history.
>the whole Leningrad argument is even more retarded given how it swayed Finland to ally with the Axis after the Winter war
Surely, if you were trying to plug in any breaches, to not lose key factories for a war, then you'd just leave everything to chance.

plot twist: all the other continents are united

>>Implying the Russian economy isn't a fucking mess and only getting worse because of Putin's shit and most protest end with disperse by the Police
Oh, I know of inner problems in Russia, both social and economic. And I also listen to people who shittalk Putin and his government as well, but just that the picture you're painting is fairly different from the one I'm seeing.
Just out of curiosity, where are you getting these kinds of pictures from? Because if it's someone like Navalniy, then I have to say that they have more down to earth trouble to deal with.
youtube.com/watch?v=lnzTLxBBBoM
youtube.com/watch?v=Not1WD5f7qQ

Based

I'd argue that Austria-Hungary's war was more retarded than Italy. But the Winter War was definitely a more "fun" read than either. 1/3 of all Serbians died in the Austria-Hungary invasion. Their k/d was still great but that doesn't mean the Serbians won anywhere other than on paper and in the sense that they were still a country afterward. Austria-Hungary was the defacto loser retard champion of that war. Niggas didn't even have a goddamn standardized rail system and they mostly ignored the Russians on the Eastern front while focusing all attention on the fucking Serbs.
>inb4 t. slav
I'm an Americunt with Swiss genes.

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stay mad, german-shit

>implying I'm a Finn

>In 1918 to 1920? Some of the most heated years of the civil war, restructuring and fighting off multiple smaller armies at the soviet borders? Again, no matter how you try and paint it, the fact still stays that back then you tried to directly enter Soviet territory. Which, no matter how you look at it, when preparing for a battle with a big foe, is a huge security risk. This isn't a "well will they or will they not" question. The fact is that strategically that is the sane thing to do.

That is actual autism, Lenin constantly advocated for total war for Communism all over Europe, Finland was still in a civil war itself against Communist which the Soviets were most likely going to use as justification to take back, hell all of those eastern European states were targets as Lenin only saw them as temporary break aways
>And a reminder that the only copy of the supposed pact mysteriously showed up in the US after WWII and had multiple errors in it when brought to Nuremberg trials.
are you actually autistic? this was a known fact that wasn't born in the US, you're like a fucking stormfag who says the Holocaust didn't happen
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact
>I mean, that is a possibility, sure, but instead of pretending to be able to read the psychological image of a person who's been long deceased, I'd rather look at strategy and plain history.
here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Bessarabia_and_Northern_Bukovina
there is no reason the Soviets should have taken this other than just empire building, then taking the Batlics and Eastern Poland with plans to take all of Finland like, shit was clear from the start
>to not lose key factories for a war
they still lost Leningrad because they attacked Finland and forced them to join the Axis, the only reason it wasn't taken was because Finland didn't want to push on and Germany wanted to save men for Moscow

that's a big french empire you got here buddy

I should clarify that I mean AH ignored the Russians in the opening of the war. Once Germany figured out that they were ignoring the Eastern front AH had to transfer troops to fight the Russians. And they did so. Autistically slow.

UGH
G
H

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Honestly the AH just makes me sad like you can laugh about the Winter war because it was an underdog story but the Soliders of the AH in the Eastern front was just depressing
they wore fucking cardboard shoes and most of eaten by wolves

bad end

I really think that if it wasn't for the world wars and Stalin extermination and forced relocation of people the Soviet Union would have a real chance to survive and keep their satellites even isolated as it was...especially considering that they would probably chill out after a time like they did in real life

Because all of the nations that tried communism turned to corrupt and oppressive shit heaps that are barely getting by.

Luigi "Spaghetti Terminator" Cadorna did nothing wrong.
In all seriousness though, he did the best he could with a terrible situation. The Italian government was to blame for their retarded decision to join the war in the first place. The Germans breaking through and almost shattering Italy all together in 1917 is mostly on him though

Wasn't the whole point of heimosodat the border was never ratified due to the provisional government not wanting to lose their property in Finland? This allowed autists to pursue großfinlandiums until it was clear that the soviets were going to win.

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>Turkey existing at all
You failed.

honestly if AH just gave up a little bit of land to honor their pact with Italy the war would have been so much different
solely because France would have been spread out so thin
like in Verdun the deciding factor was the fact there wasn't an extra Germany division there

The Italian-French border is only marginally better than the Italian-Austrian one, pic related. Also, A-H could never give up land to Italy, it would massively damage their standing both internally and internationally

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> it would massively damage their standing both internally and internationally
yeah but given the fate of the AH after the war, it was worth a shot

Thats a lot of ifs. The whole "communism works on paper" meme is the truth. In reality if more competent dictators siezed power it would probably evolve into something a lot like China. Where its sort of communist in a lot of ways but its also got a true free market and many capitalist practices under an over intrusive corrupt government. That said corruption in government is everywhere. Thats not just a commie thing.

Hindsight is 20/20. Remember, most thought the war would be over by Christmas, they didn't expect to lose like that.

>because there are swathes of bootlickers like you who will defend to the death the right of your owners to exploit your labour.
Like communism!

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>That is actual autism, Lenin constantly advocated for total war for Communism all over Europe
Yes and that is part of agitation and propaganda. Difference is that formally in that period of time Soviet Union didn't have any conflict with any outside forces, besides Poland, but even then that is just me now ignoring the fact that Poles tried to occupy at the same time other countries. So, depending on how objective you want to be on that, whatever.
>hell all of those eastern European states were targets as Lenin only saw them as temporary break aways
Nigger what? Lenin was the one who gave them independence to begin with. Shit, even in Finland they still have memorials to Lenin.
>this was a known fact that wasn't born in the US, you're like a fucking stormfag who says the Holocaust didn't happen
Everyone knows about this meme document. Can you provide me a detailed history of where it came from though? And why, in this case, no one talks about the secret documents of Munich, where France and Britain allowed Germany and Poland to take over and each annex parts of Czechoslovakia?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
>there is no reason the Soviets should have taken this other than just empire building
So you're just going to ignore the history of that place?
>shit was clear from the start
Sure.
>they still lost Leningrad because they attacked Finland
What? Do you know what happened at the Siege of Leningrad and do you know about the key factories?

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Prestige loss from truce-breaking, most likely.

STALIN SAYS TRANS RIGHTS!!!
I bet the poster is a cis white male incel. The right really can't meme...

IRL I strongly dislike Communism and Fascism but there is something immensely satisfying about playing and even role playing as them in video games. Like fighting in the ussr army in games is a thing I will never tire of. Or games Like Tropico? Awesome. Or invading france as German infantry? Fantastic.

>Like fighting in the ussr army in games is a thing I will never tire of.
the level of CoD5 where you first enter Berlin is kino no matter what your political views are

>Munich Agreement
>secret
Is this the power of Russian education?

>pol invading Yea Forums again

please stay on your containment board, thanks

Because it basically means a superior force (e.g. the state) has the right to regulate free trade, so instead of trading apples for oranges you give them to the government so they redistribute. Accepting communism/socialism or any leftist government whatsoever means being the ultimate bootlicker cuck.
t. lived under communist rule for nearly two decades when Brazil was under the Worker's Party

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>BR monkey has no idea about politics
Color me surprised

Brazil is shit because it's ruled by Brazilians, not because it's communist

Me on the left, but I have a brow ridge and a chin.

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Brazil was never Communist you donkey fuck

Lmao, you're not human

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>i-it wasn't true communism!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_Party_(Brazil)
Agreed.

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You do know that until 2008, when Russia declassified documents on the Munich agreement there were a lot of gaps in it, for which Western countries tried to pretend like it was no big deal, right?

>HUES
>politics or history knowledge
youtube.com/watch?v=eWcsFIxOUKE
Here's a crash course on some BR hue hue inner politics.

>people
>Nazis
Lole

Because communist unironically think that you shouldn't be able to decide yourself on what you want to do with your own life.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that several countries that are shitholes were under communist rule? Brazil would still be a shithole despite the ruling party, but at least it would be less violent under a right wing government. You wouldn't last a single day here, you fucking commie first worlder.

So how have you prepared for the upcoming war? I bought some full auto receivers here in the EU. Can't wait to use them on your comrades.

I'm too fucking tired. What I meant to say is I'm from a post Soviet country. See

This but unironically
It's almost always inferior to the privatized version and you still have to pay for it through taxes/debt

>communists
>people
Lole

there
fixed Europe
barbarians need not reply

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Can't wait to fuck up some stick men commies, Absolute weaklings. It really is sad.

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>Lenin was the one who gave them independence to begin with
the absolute state of Tankie propaganda
"Yeah bro you have independence but we're gonna invade you once we're done with the White Army, ttyl"
>So you're just going to ignore the history of that place?
you mean how every Nation acknowledged Romanina's claim there and the Soviets accepted it after the Great war?
>What? Do you know what happened at the Siege of Leningrad and do you know about the key factories?
Yes, I know it was underfuckingsiege and not safe like Stalin promised once he took that land from Finland, literally the only reason the Nazis didn't march in was because they wanted Moscow and decided a siege was better, fuck a main factor for that choice was the fact Finland refused German orders to advance on the City and instead were content with their gains
>where France and Britain allowed Germany and Poland to take over and each annex parts of Czechoslovakia?
and even they acknowledged that was the wrong choice but they only gave Germany the Sudetenland which did have a sizable German miniorty many still thought Hitler was only planning to unite the German people, it was only until they took the rest did they realize hitler wouldn't honor his word and that's why they put their foot down for Danzig
This is the funniest shit I've ever read
"Bro, We'll give you independence but we're gonna invade you right after lmao"
Stalin was the one who advocated for Socliasm in one country, Lenin wanted to steamroll Europe with gommeism but got boned by Poland at warsaw

dios mio... what could of have been

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retardado do caralho

good thread

>Why yes, I am a communist. What gave it away?

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uuuuuuuuhhhhgggghh

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Post time stamp, Twink, Where do you live?

Shut up, squid lover.

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comrades...

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why are libertarians aways so fucking retarded?

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We lost it...

I would, under no circumstance whatsoever, never share a State with modern italians

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here, i fixed Europe

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assemble!

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the dutch will survive due to excessive dyking.
T.my fucking tax money

>unironically commies in this thread

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>That time the Soviets dried up one of the biggest lakes in the world
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

>unironically libershits in this thread

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>Peadophile Empire that caused a thousand years of stagnation
No thanks.

>"Yeah bro you have independence but we're gonna invade you once we're done with the White Army, ttyl"
>Lenin and Stalin are the same person
I can't take you seriously.
>the Soviets accepted it after the Great war?
But they didn't. Hence why Molotov came out and said it.
>fuck a main factor for that choice was the fact Finland refused German orders to advance on the City and instead were content with their gains
But that is utter fucking bullshit. Finns were very much active at the siege of and would constantly use artillery. Is this like how that myth about Mannerheim telling Stalin about Hitler's plans and whatnot?
>and even they acknowledged that was the wrong
That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact. Nor does it change the fact that Poland also tried to snatch some away.
>Stalin was the one who advocated for Socliasm in one country, Lenin wanted to steamroll Europe with gommeism but got boned by Poland at warsaw
So this is the power of Polish education, huh?

>Anti-Communist means Pro-libertarian
Centralist Democracy chads get in here

>the virgin Marx
>the Chad Kropotkin

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DAS RITE

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lol! mind if i retweet this meme? (it's for my reditt page) :)

Agreed.

just balkanize my shit up

Because it's an impractical meme ideology that doesn't understand anything about sociology and economics and it only creates voids of power that are always filled by even more tyrannical systems than the ones communists rebelled against.

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Because it says there will be no classes, but re-distributive systems inherently need a class to organize the redistribution

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Communists are braindead retards.

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They aren't the same person, you autistic fuck
Lenin wanted a bloody a brutal revaluation across Europe, Stalin was a paranoid nutcase
>But they didn't. Hence why Molotov came out and said it.
only when they saw the opportunity to be able to take it as Germany was the West's main target and Romania was on her own
>But that is utter fucking bullshit. Finns were very much active at the siege of and would constantly use artillery. Is this like how that myth about Mannerheim telling Stalin about Hitler's plans and whatnot?
Shelling=/= active fighting in the city, Germany wanted to take it as a morale blow to the Soviets, Finland didn't want to due to high casualties as the Soviets were goign to throw everyone to the slaughter, Germany said fuck it and decided to push for Moscow and leave the men to lay siege
>That's great and all, but that doesn't change the fact. Nor does it change the fact that Poland also tried to snatch some away.
they only took a small piece that had a sizable Polish Minority that they argued deserved the same rights
>So this is the power of Polish education, huh?
>implying the Crushing defeat at Warsaw didn't force Lenin to tuck away the idea of a war for Communism since the Red army was routed and pushed back into it's own turf by the time the Ceasefire was called

What is this thread even?

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Leftypolacks and Polacks butting heads while Centralist Chads pound their waifus

how many have starved under capitalism?

I'd rather live here than .

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>thinking that the choice is a binary between communism and capitalism.

Kikes have brainfucked you goys good.

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the Worse I can think of is British mismanagement with Irish Potato famine but that was imperial policy no really capitalism same goes for the Indian famine during the Second world war

>how many have starved under state-capitalism?
fixed that for you bruh it's not true capitalism if the state touches it

If only there were vidya games though.

A lot. Around 30 million alone in India due to capitalism reforms of Churchill.

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Communists only exist because white liberals are literally Marx
>born into an upper cast of society
>barely worked a day in their life
>arm chair economists and sociologists

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Nice. So you just admit to having no idea how to actually play.

You don't even know what part of the economy and trade is actually fucked, do you.

Parroting faggot.

>Capitalist reforms
that was Imperial policy and the Japanese pushing into Bruma

peak meme ideology friendo

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>no really capitalism
jesus fucking christ, I bet you're the kind of guy that memes about "not true socilism" every time you hear a leftist being critical of the soviet union

Us Irish multiplied over that famine 5 million left for america and became 30+ million.

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>monarchy is capitalism

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no if it is under Capitalism then extend it with same hand to the Soviets who fucked up with the Holodomor

>*fixes europe for real this time*

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One day, we will be free.

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I prefer kaldomar honestly.

Unironically a kino fucking map.

yes? what are you implying?

>communism has never been put into practice
>but every time someone tried it has lead to disaster
That's not really in favor of communists though, is it?

It's not all they can do is deflect and deflect
the only time Communism actually worked was with Yugoslavia and we all know how that ended

You do realize fascism just means having a centralized government and has nothing to do with the economy, right? I mean, the fascist symbol is both in the house of representatives and on the back of the dime

>Forces everyone to speak your language and then demands they join you
What a great idea!

monarchy only defines who's at the head of the State it is only political
capitalism refers to an entire system that includes the economy and politic. as long as private property of the means of production and money exist it is capitalism no matter how the guy who's at the head of the State calls himself

And capitalism is an economic policy, Not an ideology.

okay but that wasn't what the Irish were experiencing, that was just imperialism

you're taking that definition from your ass

the great vickytorians... forced to flee to Yea Forums in exile from the Grandi Regime of /gsg/... only for their new homeland to be bombarded by gross germanium epic aryan race minekiddies and 14 year old communists stretching grandi's oppression even here... with only who i can assume are irish and dixie /his/torian volunteers desperately holding them back... i miss home lads

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>not giving up iberia to muslims

based

>monarchist controlled imperial system=capitalism

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Absolutely digusting
Completely based

>>but every time someone tried it has lead to disaster
name them

>posts gay commie shit instead of a real deal

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>Lenin wanted a bloody a brutal revaluation across Europe, Stalin was a paranoid nutcase
Again, Lenin's personal discourse is one thing. The fact that until Lenin's death the USSR hadn't made any major geopolitical moves is a fact, not just some autistic rambling.
>only when they saw the opportunity to be able to take it as Germany was the West's main target and Romania was on her own
You're also going to pretend that in neither of those places there were uprising attempts?
>Finland didn't want to due to high casualties as the Soviets were goign to throw everyone to the slaughter
In March of 1944 they tried to attack via aviation, but failed miserably.
>they only took a small piece that had a sizable Polish Minority that they argued deserved the same rights
That's all very interesting and all, but how is this, for instance, different from Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina? Or are you trying to tell me that when Czechoslovakia was being split it was all cheeky and with flowers?
>>implying the Crushing defeat at Warsaw didn't force Lenin to tuck away the idea of a war for Communism since the Red army was routed and pushed back into it's own turf by the time the Ceasefire was called
The only reason that anyone even cared about Poland was because of their own inane faggotry. If anything, that war also cooled down the Polish as well.

>russian outer manchuria
It's fucking stupid. Get the fuck out right now.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_communist_states_and_socialist_states

highly based and redpilled

Fascism has a form of state capitalism/corporatism, which is why it's called the "third position" and demonized by capitalists for being too socialist and communists for being too capitalist.

>kikepedia
i'm waiting

and imperialism can be interpreted as a way for capitalist coutries to expand the business to other countries by force if necessary
it is not really related but one of the reason the french got into colonialism in the first place was that so they could sell fucking candles to the africans becaus europe switched to gas lamp

>the capitalist system stops existing because there is a monarchy at the top
What the fuck am I reading?

America should take over russia from alaska to moscow.

This.

Are you retarded? Just read the list.
What does it matter what you think of wikipedia otherwise?

...

>sold Alaska to the mutts
Nuking muttistan, fucking when?

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guaranteed answers

I'm not going to read your jewish list.

So why'd you ask for it then, retard?

>Russia officially received this territory by way of the Treaty of Aigun in 1858 and the Treaty of Peking in 1860. The northern part of the area was also in dispute between 1643 and 1689.

eat it gook

>The fact that until Lenin's death the USSR hadn't made any major geopolitical moves is a fact,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_War_of_Independence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War
expect all of those speech of a war for Communism the promise of a brutal and bloody revolution and the attempt to link up with German Socialist that was stopped once Poland pushed the Soviets back, the Support to the Soviet Finns during the Finnish civil war same goes for Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania
the Annexation of Ukraine etc
The Soviets didn't do anything more because they realized the entire world would actually show up in force if they tried to invade again, until the Nazis rose to power the Soviets were seen as the big baddie of Europe and for good reason
>You're also going to pretend that in neither of those places there were uprising attempts?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_occupation_of_Bessarabia_and_Northern_Bukovina
there was but in favor for the Romanians
>The only reason that anyone even cared about Poland was because of their own inane faggotry. If anything, that war also cooled down the Polish as well.
>Forgetting the West allies especially the US really made a note for Polish independence to be a sure thing once the Great war was over but the Soviet's plan to expand already threatened Poland the second it was reborn
>That's all very interesting and all, but how is this, for instance, different from Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina? Or are you trying to tell me that when Czechoslovakia was being split it was all cheeky and with flowers?
Well for one, it wasn't split by two Governments, it was just one Nation bullying a small one into handing over territory as they saw fit, you also forget that the Czech Government completely collapsed when the Polish annexed that strip of land

I didn't ask for jewish propaganda.
I asked for you to name these so called "communist failure disasters".

Ah and one more thing to add hereThat Polish annexation didn't lead to death camps for the Czech people like the Soviets did for the Polish once they invaded from the East and reminder the Soviets allied with the Nazis to kill of the poles and ended helping kick start another great war, literally the only reason the USSR was declared on too was because the Polish guarantee only extended to German agression
here
youtube.com/watch?v=ZynwKwu67SQ