Ace combat 7 sold so well we will certainly get 8

They already confirmed Ace combat 8 for like 2022 in an interview

Literally the only bad Ace combat game is Xi and Advanced. It's not a holy trilogy it's a round table

30fps disqualifies it from playing better than the trinity.

What? What the fuck? The PS2 games where at 30fps you dumb fuck

the only part where AC7 sucks compared to the PS2 games is the story, the gameplay in 7 is way better and more fun.
its 60fps though, and even on povertyfag consoles its mostly 50fps

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>tfw AC 6 never ever

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7 has better gameplay then 5 and 4

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Incredible. Both of you have garbage reading comprehension in a different way. Please re-read the discussion thread more carefully.

Not really missing much. Nothing in 6 really impacts the overall story of AC or the world

Shoulda preordered 7 on Xbone

>30fps disqualifies it from playing better than the trinity.

No you're literally a fucking idiot that didn't realize the PS2 games ran at 30fps

6 isn't very good, the story and music blow and it only has like 9 planes total

Why would you go online and tell lies? youtube.com/watch?v=NjMVD_zSV4A

>*hunts you*

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youtu.be/XMRPq6VGMw0
retard

>Muh war is bad uwu
>Muh ebil wall
>Muh peace
>Muh stonk wahmyn
>Generic animoo trash plot
>Muh based black man
>Muh nationalism baaaaaad!
Who the fuck supports this trash?

*takes damage in non critical area*
heh, nothin personnel

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It's funny. I just have to look at half of those to know you didn't play the game.

>On an emulator

Better than 5, but worse than 4. And I'm not saying that from a nostalgia perspective because I only played 4 for the first time a year ago. 4 handles target-switching far better than 7 does, and 7's gimmicky missions aren't as fun as 4's.

7's still fucking great, don't get me wrong, but I do think 4 is better.

my main gripe with 7 was the theming, I was expecting cool desperado convict sent-to-die pilot adventures, but it was only like 5 out of the 20 or so missions. The actual gameplay was solid, though

>7's gimmicky missions aren't as fun as 4's.
4's my favorite in the series, but come on, man. Other than Bunker Buster, AC7's gimmick missions are better.

It needed more fake planes

There's no emulator that can make AC04 run at twice its framerate. Swallow your pride you fucking goofball.

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They fixed the targeting issues from release.
Still not as good as earlier games, but its actually usable now, instead of switching to an enemy to the rear of you and halfway across the map, it'll choose whatever is closest to your reticle.

>walls
>you’re in a jet

>*misses

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I must not have played it since the update, its good to know they fixed that. It was easily my biggest problem with the game.

I agree as a whole 4 is better, but 7 has better gameplay and mission design

The only issue I have with 7 is that the controls aren't as well optimized for PC as they could be. Elite Dangerous has just a couple of ways to tweak the way the mouse works that made it very comfortable to fly, whereas in AC7 I have to keep my hand still and only move the mouse vertically otherwise I'll roll when I don't want to which can get a bit nerve wracking when a lot of maneuvering is needed.

Yep, and they've buffed TLS too so it isn't a glorified flashlight like when the game released.

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Are EMLs still hilarious? I haven't played AC7 multi in a few months, but I remember laughing my ass off when I'd pick off one of the enemy planes from the get go with it.

>AC7 sold well
>AC8 will have bullshit sprinkled throughout every mission like 7
there was not a single fully fun mission in AC7

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Yes, although they did nerf it slightly by making it take two shots to down mid to high tier planes equipped with armor level 2.

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Suck my balls, kiddo. Fleet Destruction is the best standard mission in the series.

"wrong"

Holy Trinity Remaster Port when?
AC:X remake when?
>Fleet Destruction

I play it on PC as well, but let's be honest the game was mainly made with controllers in mind. And jap stuidos don't have the best track with PC games, hence all the planes being in the files

EMLS are the best weapon in MP, they nerf did nothing really, you can survive if you have armor 2 but only with 5 health your already dead at that point

>Here's a ton of shit to destroy!
>oh, but you only have 10 min rorororor fak yuu roundeye

>You want to shoot gas refinery? Fack you here sandstorm

>OK so here's an airbattle for you.
>SIKE! You have to defend this ground target

>ok here's a ground target mission.
>HA HA WE SWITCHED THE SCRIPT!!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S FRIENDLY AND WHO'S NOT I AM A VIDEOGAME DESIGINING GENIUS!!!

It was completely unnecessary.

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7 has some of the best missions in the series
>two pronged strategy
>first contact
>faceless soldier
>battle for farbanti
>lost kingdom
>lighthouse
I could argue for the others as well

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>He hasn't uncapped fps on PCSX2 before

>Holy Trinity Remaster Port when?
Kono said its never happening.

Battle for Farbanti would be better if it wasn't for the retarded Sol fight at the end, worst Ace team in the series hands down

>getting filtered by AC7
Sucks to be you

Just go fast

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It's coming along nicely youtube.com/watch?v=Jw56KVYLIlY

pleb detected, if you think sol is the worst then you clearly haven't played X, JH,5, or 6. the Sol squadron fight has one of the best dogfight themes in the entire series as well. The fight is great, and mr x being invincible is only an issue on second playthroughs and even then it's a non issue

Man, I've never been able to tell someone's bad at a game without seeing them play so easily before.

Are you including the chase at the end, too? Cause I had a lot of fun with that.

>AC8
>You actually go into space

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>Ram 18 missiles up X's ass but you're stuck waiting for him to stop jerking off and let you continue
I love this series to death but Sol 1 is just bad design right up there with that chucklefuck from Assault Horizon

>He hasn't played 3JP

the timed missions were absolutely shit but the rest was fine, I loved the missions where you didn't know friendly or enemy

>thinking AC game selling well would mean sequels
90% of their Ace Combat games sold very well, including the horseshit AH. The issue here is that they have to go through the bitch of a licensing system to include these planes which is the sole reason why we don't have a proper trilogy port. Only way they can make a good AC game and avoid all this licensing issue is to go the way of AC3 , make 90% of the roster fictional planes.

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>I have though

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>>HA HA WE SWITCHED THE SCRIPT!!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S FRIENDLY AND WHO'S NOT I AM A VIDEOGAME DESIGINING GENIUS!!!
But that was well done

Why not. Also what was the reason to not sell AC5 separately

Well AC8 probably takes place after X and before 3 so we're probably going to only get strangereal planes

Licensing is too difficult

Git gud

The sheer amount of radio lines that seemingly trigger based on the smallest differences in how you approach a mission is pretty crazy. I've 100%'d the game and I'm still hearing new lines.
>those oil field workers trapped in the burning inferno
>that erusean sailor going numb in the freezing water
>that erusean fighter pilot worried about his brother in the AA radar vehicle

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>AC3 Remake but also ties with AC7 and X

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MISSILE

Canyon fight with Mr. X was amazing

non-issue, there is no other way they could have done it. the setting, music, and fight itself ranks below anything from zero or yellow squadron, but is better then any other in the series. on people's first playthrough mine and most likely your included I doubt your hitting him 16 times.

They said they can't do a AC3 remake

I was though.

X and the rest of Sol is not difficult at all

canyon fight would be god tier if you could actually take him out
they could have made him take the same amount of damage that he takes in the final fight over shilage, but just make him eject or something

youtube.com/watch?v=ai1kyUg1wSE
youtube.com/watch?v=ai1kyUg1wSE
youtube.com/watch?v=ai1kyUg1wSE

JINK

No, they said they'd like to remaster the older games, but it would mean they would not be able to focus on making new games, and given the choice they'd rather make new games.

You can take Mr. X out. He has different dialogue depending on if you actually take him out or he just leaves

>He has different dialogue depending on if you actually take him out or he just leaves
No? He has the same lines no matter what you do

no, you can only affect how fast he decides to fuck off, you can't actually destroy his plane

Xs 1 squadron fight was a joke, alect didn't even have an emblem until infinity. with no upgraded planes sol squadron is fairly difficult, that spin maneuver is tough. And truth be told it's not about the difficulty of the fight, it's more about the buildup, music, and setting. Yellow squadron isn't very hard at all but it's still a fantastic fight.
he's actually invincible until a certain piece of dialogue plays in the shilage fight. The main issue is what else could they have done besides make him invincible in the farbanti fight. And it has to fit in with the story, I'm legit curious what they could have done

7 has the best multirole missions in the series but I wish there was a couple more pure dogfights

>that erusean sailor going numb in the freezing water
How do you trigger this line?

Not the same user, but I agree with you. I wished the timed "blow up as much as possible missions" resembled their AC4 counterparts more: twice as much stuff to kill with twice as much time (although Fleet Destruction is pretty fun).

>he's actually invincible until a certain piece of dialogue plays in the shilage fight.
?
he doesn't show up until halfway through the mission, and he is never invulnerable in anyway after he shows up.
you're probably mixing it up with the two SOL members being invulnerable.

>heavily scripted sequences that you can't just end
>good

he takes damage but you can't kill him until a certain piece of dialogue plays, I'm certain of this. It's almost right after wit says drone have no place in the skies. I'm not mixing it up with Sol either. I've tried killing him as fast as possible, it never works

>Replay Ace 7
>Reach Mr.X for first time.
>Fire few missiles at him.
>They connect.
>Sol 1 and 2 chat for 20 seconds talking about Sol 1 status
>Clouds come and they fuck off.

>Hey i want to attack these targets for longer than 10 minutes
>WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THE GAME!!!!
Dark souls and TORtanic ruined this board and prettymuch every other place on the entire internet save for close-knit discord servers for talking about videogames..

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I'm aware thats what it is, I just don't know what else they could have done without mr x getting shot down.

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fleet destruction is 15 minutes long, if your gonna shit on something at least know what it is

Dude no. Sol can't die until LRSSG guy dies.
In the other Ace Combats the win condition is set and you can end a mission by destroying targets before scripted events can happen.

>Hey, I want the game to cater to me because I'm not able to complete the objective in the time limit given despite hundreds of thousands of people being able to
ftfy

>complaining about time limits in an arcade game
just go fast

It definitely felt like 7 was kinda stitched together from different pieces, seem to remember them saying they had to restart development mid cycle and based Kono was willing to do it for the fans. If anything, just means with a clearer direction, 8 should be absolutely kino. Hopefully with less time invincible bosses too

>Dude no. Sol can't die until LRSSG guy dies.
All SOL team members are destroyable in Farbanti except for Mihaly who does his usual shtick of being invincible and fucking off after whatshisname gets ganked.

You know exactly what I mean. Stop pretending you can save the flight lead and kill all of SOL before he dies.

literally your only defence is insisting that i'm bad at the game when you have no way of knowing how well i play it, or even if it has any relevance at all

So tell me, Why do you view my opinion of the game as a reflection of your own personal reputation? Don't you have anything redeeming about you as a person? Are you really so shallow that if someone somewhere on the internet doesn't like a game you like, it makes you somehow less of a person?

Don't you take issue with that? Don't you want to fix that?

that's because they haven't had a fight like this before. Yellow 13 isn't marked in 4 because people would instantly shoot him down, with mihaly they wanted a enemy who was extremely skilled, and they didn't want it to seem he was a jobber so they made him invincible and I don't mind.

no you are retarded, Sol fight is the best thing about that mission
also best track on the OST
youtube.com/watch?v=hN74PMk4IBQ

Yeah, some dude translated Kono's tweets regarding the game development. Seems development of what we got was done in two years.
docs.google.com/document/d/1TQ3yHTQ3NnggQiWwoKHkm4DBw-VnF4FxA4K-F7ueXzc/edit

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If AC8 still doesn't have online co-op I will be furious.

TLS is still garbage.
>Wow, Falken's can kill a regular jet in 4 hits instead of 6!

I don't know how people enjoy the gameplay of Ace Combat

It's extremely brainless, you just fire auto-aim missiles over and over until the enemy AI decides to go in a straight line and let the missile hit (they are hardcoded to usually do it every third missile.)

The only good part of Ace Combat was its story and characters and its "cool factor".
In 4, 5 & 0 these were all very high. The story made you really want to defeat the enemy and you really wanted to protect your squadmates.
In Ace Combat 7 the story is retarded and disjointed (DURRR HARLON'S MIRROR), your squad changes every few missions, the allied characters that appear in cutscenes are not in your squad and do not appear in the gameplay whatsoever - so who are you supposed to care about in this game?

that's all? An ancient YOU MAD reaction image?

Let's pretend i was mad, How does that not make you pathetic for equating your self esteem to a complete stranger's opinion on a videogame?

It's Harling, you double Belkan

You know these guys really care about their work when they're so willing to beat themselves up over it. It seems he at least knows the game has flaws, but again, hopefully ace 8 learns from them

Hamilton is just like that. You shoot him down and he appears in the tunnel section. He just leaves the battlefield until the second half.

I seem to recall that this is how things were in 4 as well with Yellow 13 in the Oil Rigs mission. You can beat them but they just keep flying unmarked.

And that's not all. In Ace Combat 3, there definitely were fights with characters who just leave because of plot.

I'm not certain but maybe Pixy also was like that.

I like 7 so far but I am curious about the season pass is the content good? It seems pricey at $30

Besides the 3 aircraft, they've teased story/mission DLC, so maybe.

>so who are you supposed to care about in this game?
The franchise being alive after 12 from the last mainline title

pixy was not like that, everytime time you did enough damage it would change to the next phase of the fight. Hamilton isn't the best example because he's one of the worst villains in the series. Like you said you shoot him then he just pisses off then shows up suddenly in the tunnel and then gets BTFO again. But the question isnt what they did before, it's what they could have done to make the mr x farbanti fight better, him just running away would suck

It ain't worth it, none of the DLC crafts are worth the price for a single plane and I doubt the missions are going to be much more than just repeats of what we already have

>The only good part of Ace Combat was its story and characters and its "cool factor".
You're missing a pretty big part of it.
youtube.com/watch?v=8ABs_Kw_miw

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the planes are well worth 5 bucks

youtube.com/watch?v=9G1ob5jnuSo

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>I doubt the missions are going to be much more than just repeats of what we already have
I think it'll be Naval themed, considering the main antagonist is supposed to be a warship captain. Maybe some "Hunt for Red October" deal where you have to find a rogue sub captain who wants to nuke the space elevator? Could be neat.

>him just running away would suck
... But he does just that.

Our psycho Belkan narrator, whose better than scrap chick in every way by the way except for cuteness, says in the cutscene after the mission something like >In the distance I can see a plane leaving
Fuck me bombing Shilage castle and downing Mihaly at his final stand was underwhelming. Not enough camaraderie in our unit to make it feel like an overcome our internal weaknesses and grow as people episode.

Its actually structured a helluva lot like Charge the Enemy, mission 2. Not good.

I don't think it's boring, but I do think flight sims are more fun.

>yfw they make Infinity 2 to pay for 8

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Hush > Daredevil

youtube.com/watch?v=M906kiFzHuY

>There's a timeline where Trigger fucks up mission 20 and Strangereal goes to shit thanks to over 9000 ADF-11s
Imagine there's a mission pack based on that

while he did run away at the end, it was better then shooting him down in the first minute and then him returning after you fuck up Sol squadron. mihalys final stand was not underwhelming whatsoever, it was the second best boss fight in the series behind pixy. The music was great, fantastic setting and lighting, and they choose the best plane for the fight. and yes I agree that strider didn't have any real comradeship (besides count) they should have stuck with spare squadron

the drone fight was honestly too easy

Why didn't PA take AC3's concept on branching storylines?
>Shooting down Mihaly on Mission 3 saves Brownie, but causes more drone fights in later missions

They probably wanted to do something like that early on, but 7's development was disjointed and fucked up enough that they had to keep the campaign simple.

Because that was expensive as FUCK, even back then? It's a miracle AC7 even got out the door as is with what was going on at PA.

If you say so. Seems anyone disagreeing ends up having to go against your take on the matter and somehow not mattering. I too like not being able to see anything because even the clouds in 7 radiate intense light.

The part that kills me the most is the ascent. I kept crashing into the pillars before I realized I can do a high-g turn down there without stalling

They're 60fps on the PS2 you fucking retard.

Feels good man.

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The trailers definitely seemed like it was supposed to have a branching campaign.

>Intentionally fail mission 5
>fly away while other squadrons hunt you down

How do you trigger any of those?

>I wonder... Which path would you choose?
tfw you'll never get to burn osea to the ground.

Hell if I know, it almost seems random.
Maybe based on how fast you destroy targets?

check out They definitely had to scrap branching campaigns probably moreso since development probably rebooted in the middle of it, I'd bet any money the different squadrons you play as in the current game were the different story paths you took in the original concept.

No doubt they had issues because PA is a small studio (like 20 people tops), they were learning a new engine and tech like trueSKY and the VR portion was a bitch to make work.
Hopefully AC8 will include one, now that they've got a proper handle on the technical stuff.

DLC missions when

Fucking chariot of the gods.

simply kino

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For me, it's magic spear.
youtube.com/watch?v=2o_XGQ3EcrI

>That moment when Wiseman makes him a fucking sitting duck if you're already riding his ass and you can even smash him with air-to-ground missiles

Someone said the tents in mission 18 are full of refugees and you can blow them up for 100 points.

Last Hope is bangin too
youtube.com/watch?v=H3bUAbklzcc

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I fucking love this level

S ranks ain't free.

>no other Siren's Songfags
= (
youtube.com/watch?v=Mzo1L2ZeiZ4

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>Latin chanting begins

not the first time they did that. The best AC song out there, Unsung war, is tied to a 1 minute fight that is braindead easy

Me too, its very comfy, and has mad Patlabor 2 vibes.
youtube.com/watch?v=lX8RFJpe-BY

These two are up there for me. I also have a soft-spot for Gunther Peninsula. It's simple, but it was the first track that hit that "This is fucking Ace Combat" spot for me. Wish it got more love.
youtube.com/watch?v=abBBHSg2cwE

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Yes. This is good. This is very good.

Anyone willing to gift AC7 to me?
steamcommunity.com/id/reviola/
>ib4 Sent ;)

Why did AC7 bluepill against drones so hard? There's literally nothing wrong with using drones.

The idea was that Erusia basically managed populace that drones were cleaner and then they were left completely unprepared for just how bad war is.

>Manned fighters
SOUL
>Drones
SOULLESS

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It's amazing. Such a small studio under such a short period of time made a better blockbuster thrill-inducing game than so many 100 million games of this gen. The team deserves way more recognition than they get.

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You missed the entire point of the story. The real takeaway is to never trust filthy Belkans.

It's not inherently a criticism of drones and AI, it's about the naivety of leaders thinking they could make a war "clean" by using machines to stand in for human beings. The reality is that war is always a mess for everybody involved and can have unforseen consequences and outcomes that naive leaders will be less likely to think about or plan for because they live under a delusion that they've invented a way to sanitize warfare.

The lesson was that the best thing about war is that it ends.
When you make it easier and "cleaner," it gets a lot harder to actually get to that point. That guy who dropped a ton of info on you and then exploded explained this.

The lesson of AC7 is that war is fucking awesome so long as it's done with man-planned fighter planes

>There's literally nothing wrong with using drones.
Are you sure you're not a drone?

w...what makes you say that?

he is way to easy even of ace difficulty, I really wish they would make an update to make him a unbeatable killing machine

acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Gründer_Industries

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>implying there are enemies left after 10 minutes

Yeah haha

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Osean Federation is the best faction.

The amount of shit Kono got from Jumpforce spic subhumans is incredible

thank fuck the shonen loving retards got what they deserved with jump force

he was a really good dog

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Pretty chunky lass

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>The schedule for all 2 days is over. Can you tweet come here till the end? please?
>It was okay, but I received permission. But, unfortunately, what I saw is so great that I can not say anything about it.
>I'm sorry. Thank you to BAE SYSTEMS for the best time!
Tempest soon™

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>Supposed to be the latest and greatest ADF
>The Falken outperforms it in every way, even in the TLS department

I've gotten a lot of kills just by slamming some long range SPWs into a furball of Ravens stalling over each other because they're being piloted by some dumbass, their HUGE hitbox doesn't help. They look pretty cool though.

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check ur inbox u fucking panhandling lowlife homo ;)

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Reminder that the Fishbed is the patrician's choice for multiplayer.
do you even BRRRRT?

>Cold war trash can with wings can out turn an F-22
It's not fucking fair.

>being a filthy M*GGER
Mirage boys where we at

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why does GRKT even exist

>not using superior Russian jank
out of the way slow pokes

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Fuck yes.
youtube.com/watch?v=Dt7zt48LfPc
Not me, but still lays down the law.

>Not using the A-10 for TRUE BRRRRT

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