Maybe next time

Of course not. He's going to turn into another assist trophy.

Very based.

Dude quit it. You clearly haven’t played XC2, and asked why people want him

Yeah Shantae used to be a high request too. Waluigi, Golden Sun, a lot others.

I mean, Shantae and Waluigi still are.

>brown thot in smash
No thanks

I’m sick of all the Waluigi hate from people. All we wanted was him in, but because of two people annoying Sakurai, all want to go on an anti-waluigifan campaign.
He should’ve been in since Melee/Brawl.
Paragorn’s leak is a last hope for us. I hope he is right, and Nintendo finally listens to fans

Racists not welcome

Out of everything to come from Shantae, I don’t like her catchphrase of “Ret-2-go”. Cute but really sounds stupid

White > Brown

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Nah.

Hahaha, you delusional cunt.

Xenoblade 2 was that bad.

No. It. Was. Not

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Haha...
The animation that has nothing to do with smash bros...

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Convince me why you want Shantae in Smash besides the porn
I feel like it’s 90% lewd and 10% Wayforward bandwagoning

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>90% lewd
And that's a good thing

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Not sexy.

>and 10% Wayforward bandwagoning
Which, again, is due to porn. God, I love Shantae porn. I don't actually want her in Smash though.

Ah it's that inferior Asha knockoff again! Good to see she's still a trashy shitskin half-breed and her fans are just as insufferable!

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I have played XC2 and I do not get why people ask him! most of the party are more intresting (Zeke/Pandoria) or have better movement potential and charisma (Tora/Poppy)

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>I feel like it’s 90% lewd and 10% Wayforward bandwagoning
I feel like you should probably get off Yea Forums because looking literally anywhere else would tell you that people want her for the exact same reasons people want any character. People like Shantae's games and her think she has the potential to have a really fun moveset. She also would be a good indie rep seeing as how she is currently the most popular indie request for Smash.

Keep seething and being in denial.

God I wish I was there.

Her hair weapon is fairly unique
I know bayo has it too technically but its less obvious
also belly dancing half genie girl makes my iron the big iron

"Ret-2-Go" is a dumb catchphrase

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Literally who?

on his hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip

I’ve played some of Shantae’s games and nothing about her screams “yes, I want this character in Smash”. Maybe I’m a contrarian but I don’t even want or care about most popular user requests, including her, obviously.
And I’ve seen arguments here but none of it is really persuasive. I’d rather have other independent game representatives with a legacy like Quote or hell even Reimu

Its cute and you are allergic to fun

Shanty fags are often unaware of the history of games, at best they know of a purple haired shitskin who had a series of mediocre games and an expensive GBC game.

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Well aside from just looks Shantae has a ton of charisma a fuckton of moves to choose from and an amazing soundtrack and she stood whit Nintendo on the WiiU something that pretty much everyone else did not. Here is a sample.
youtube.com/watch?v=71lLnE8gJnU

>Quote
who

>you will never make quarter genie babies with Shantae

Shantaefag here, anons. Believe it or not, back before Smash 3DS/Wii U released, I'd thought about getting her in. (I owned her GBC game and it was many years after Brawl was out so Risky's Revenge was on the DSi at the time and Pirate's Curse released the same year as Smash 3DS/Wii U). When WayForward pushed for her in the Fighter Ballot, I felt a sliver of hope and saw all these people voting for her to get in. She didn't make it in, and she definitely isn't one of the last two of this Fighter Pass, but I've accepted that. If a Fighter Pass 2 comes out, I'd say she has a chance. But honestly, doesn't seem likely.

But I'll gladly stand by defending her to get in the game. I just understand her chances are minimal now that we have the extreme heavy hitters in this pack. She just isn't a major icon like Banjo or Joker

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Now that's some fine delusion

>the cuck is back
How many times do I need to BTFO you.

MWIV didn't invent brown girl dancers with purple hair. And it didn't invent the genre either. All that game did was kill its own franchise for quite a while.

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How?

Imagine thinking it's about the invention of the character and not the plagiarism of the game play

Wait what, when did they announce a 5th game

You mean like how MWIV rips off straight from Aladin? Fantastic argument you got there.

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They announced it as an iphone game for some reason, and the fans aren't pissed off (probably because the game play in these games was always an after thought and they're sold exclusively on T&A)

Is she drinking a bowl of gravy?

>Paragorn’s leak is a last hope for us.
Fuck that he's not worth it if tumblrtale shit gets in.

>Today we're thrilled to announce Shantae 5! You're invited to join Shantae in a brand-new adventure later this year on PS4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PC... AND the newly announced Apple Arcade!
are you okay retard ?

You mean Aladdin? How does a game in a series dating back to the mid 80s rip off a movie from 1992? I mean both were from before you were born but that's a leap in logic if I've ever seen one.

I always assumed it was hot chocolate but if it's gravy, to each their own I guess

>no game in the series will be as good as Pirate's curse

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>being hyped for an iphone game
but why?

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Monster World IV came out in 1994, one year after Aladdin for the Mega Drive. Coincidence? No, don't think so.

Before that it was a game about a boy that could turn into a dragon.

He's baiting.

No, before that was MW3. You don't seem to know much about the history of video games, you might want to lurk more.

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who is this cute girl and is she in shantae?

Where's Aisha, cuck?

btw played and finished all these games, this one is indeed better than the diarrhea that was MWIV. It's probably the reason why they chose it for a remake.

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Asha and no.

Wait a minute, are you that same retard who posted Prince of Sable when responding to Shantae posts?

I think the main thing hurting her chances is how awkward it would be to build around her moveset. Sure they could take some Pirate and sub-items, but they would definitely want to make her transformations the main focus. The problem with that is having her transform for individual attacks would lead to frequent hurtbox size changes with many of them making her bigger, and the fact that most transformations do only 2 things prevents her from working like Pokemon Trainer.

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Not just that, this is clearly ripping off Dragon Quest. You got no case Aisha cuck, your entire franchise is based of rip offs. First Dragon Quest, then Aladdin. Don't show up in these threads again.

She belongs in a paizuri game, not a fighting game

Piranha Plants' side B has the same issue, so it's not holding her back.

MW3 was never remade. Once again Shantyfags demonstrate they don't know shit about video games.

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That's my point. It was never, it will never. Because its a shit game.

This. All the female characters in the game exist for nothing but sex and waifubait.

>shantyfags are also illiterate
I don't even need to try to discredit them, they do it themselves.

>Kirby is already more than well represented
So is Shantae, since her fans don't care about gameplay and only design.

Mario is already in Smash.

I agree with you about that. In all my time of thinking about what her moveset could be, it's really tough to nail something that properly uses transformations. They could just be instant transformations where she briefly changes into (let's say) an elephant for a forward smash, then changes back. But if they limited her transformations to just quick little moves, people including me would be a little disappointed. She's just tough to think about

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Just gearing up. Shantaeposting will become huge. Can't be stopped. You either join us or gtfo.

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GO AFTER HER!!!!!!!!!!!

Transformations don't even work well in her own game, let alone a fast paced game like Smash.

If this is gearing up I'd love to see how you own yourself in full steam.

They do work, Half-Genie Hero just did a shitty job with them. They put in way too many and made some totally redundant. Not to mention they took out the actual physical dancing pattern thing to get a certain transformation and replaced it with a wheel instead

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>side B
Did you mean the down B? The side b only changes the plants color. The difference is that only one of Plant's moves makes it small and huge while insta-switch Shantae would be bigger for anything involving elephant, spider, mermaid, and maybe harpy.

God this again, transformation works in HGH. All it is a selection wheel. Literally just have it be like Shulk where her nuetral B brings up the wheel and she can choose from 4 different transformtions.

>Smash
>fast paced
You mean Melee?? Don't think they'll put her in that game.

>Not to mention they took out the actual physical dancing pattern thing to get a certain transformation and replaced it with a wheel instead
What's the problem

>Shantae

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>just make 5 movesets for one character lmao
TFs are pretty shit in HGH, way to situational and a pace breaker to use.

Nigger, the next months will be crazy.

Thumbs up if you agree

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>She also would be a good indie rep seeing as how she is currently the most popular indie request for Smash
But she's far from being the most deserving and you know it

>just make 5 movesets for one character lmao
Not what I said but sure.

Transformations can only really do like 2 moves in Shantae. Just have the wheel transform her and she instantly does the move just like in her boss fight.

>way to situational
Sure, but that doesn't mean they were shit

>a pace breaker to use.
No they weren't. You pressed a button moved the control stick and BAM, your done.

I hope the Asha cuck shows up in every thread.

>But she's far from being the most deserving and you know it
Deserving means fuck all because if we went by that logic Banjo doesn't deserve to get in over Master Chief or Steve. Literally the only thing that makes you deserving to be in Smash is how requested you are.

In terms of indie reps, she at least makes the most sense. Sure, she isn't the face of indie gaming, that's Shovel Knight. But Shantae is definitely second place

Shantae has been on Nintendo for longer. She basically paved the way for the indie scene on the fucking NDS

Banjo did have more legacy than these two due to how old he was though. Also Hero wasn't that requested and Joker wasn't requested at all. Yet both were more deserving than Banjo

I don't know if this is bait but you're way off. You should get out of the Smash community, Shantae and Shovel Knight are literally nothing. Touhou, Undertale, hell even Cave Story and Meat Boy are bigger.

someone link the shantae discord

Touhou did it in the fucking 90's

If you're gonna make the transformations only do one thing, might aswell just make them her directional specials and skip the wheel shit.
Her TFs being as situational as they are in HGH is pretty bad, quality over quantity.
What if i want to use a transformation on page 2 and haven't bought the speed upgrade, kind of telling that they knew it takes way too long they had to even include something like that, isn't it?

>Banjo did have more legacy than these two due to how old he was though
No he doesn't, his "legacy" is two games people loved and the rest no one gave a shit about. Then he did fuck all for years. Master Chief has a far greater legacy than Banjo does and Steve was at the time the second most purchased game of all time.

>Also Hero wasn't that requested and Joker wasn't requested at all
Hero was a Japan request and Joker got in because Sakurai is a massive fan of Persona 5.

>Hold A plus direction
>Dance animations as hit Winds up
>Smash attack as one of the transformations as soon you release the button
Gee that was so hard

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Touhou games are shmups for people too poor to afford Cave games.

>Touhou, Undertale, hell even Cave Story and Meat Boy are bigger.
None of these save for Quote and Sans are requested for Smash nearly as much as Shantae or Shovel Knight. And Shantae is still more requested than any of them.

Doesn't change the fact that all these characters were deserving. Banjo was the least deserving but still way more than Shantae lmfao

>Shovel Knight is literally nothing
It's arguable that SK is up there with Undertale but neither really live up to the success that Cave Story and Touhou brought. I mean Cave Story kickstarted the american indie market and managed to get noticed enough by Nintendo to warrant a revamped game that took advantage of the 3DS' 3D features. Meanwhile Touhou is just the defacto Japanese Indie game

Doesn't mean shit
Just because reddit bear got in doesn't means you can meme anything into the game
Also I'm fairly sure Reimu is more heavily requested than Quote

Master Chief is more deserving than Shantae and Banjo......?

Im speechless. Really.

Literally not one game on any Nintendo console.

100%, especially compared to shantae who has 0 claim to fame or influence.

Nintendo history is a 2015 meme

Congrats you just came up with what the user i was replying to didn't want them to do.
Of course the only logical way to handle them would be to not do it like in her games, because there they barely work.

lmao at calling Banjo a reddit choice.

Most people I know that used to be into Touhou also used to wear Naruto headbands on anime convents. Both things just used to go along back in the 2000s.

>Banjo was the least deserving but still way more than Shantae lmfao
But what the hell makes Banjo so deserving? Because boomers liked him? He wasn't some ground breaking franchise and his series didn't even get past it's first game before it started seeing declining sales. Again, if deserving was what you say it is, then Chief or Steve should have gotten in first. The only thing that makes Banjo deserving is that Smashfags wanted him, and Smashfags want Shantae too.

>Reimu is more heavily requested than Quote
Literally never heard her name get brought up during the ballot and not even on the lead up to Ultimate's release.

Remember when FF7 was on a Nintendo console back when Sm4sh was happening?

I am honest to god surprised you retards still pedal this meme when Sakurai said it was bullshit.

Non-Smash question: Is 1/2 Genie Hero any good? I know it has problems, it's not perfect, yes yes, transformation complaints, I know. But despite its blemishes, is it at least GOOD?

I ask because I recently played through Risky's Revenge and Pirate's Curse for the first times and loved the ever loving fuck out of them both, and I'm considering picking up 1/2 Genie Hero to see if I'd be down for Shantae 5 when it supposedly comes out later this year, but I've heard all those complaints and I'm left hesitant.

Why do people go to Yea Forums for video game opinion? You'd be more likely to get an honest response from some random youtuber.

I solely look forward to Shantae 5 after HGH because of Trigger.

Being racist is one thing but not wanting to fuck Shantae is just a mental disorder.

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The main problem is as mentioned that alot of the transformations are one trick ponies, and that you have to play through every semi-linear level several times whenever you get a new upgrade if you want to get the true final boss.
It's very mediocre, but if you like the games characters and humor enough, it might be good enough for you.

I had more fun with Shantae 1/2 than I did with Hollow Knight.

That's the difference between a game that just wants the player to have fun and other that's trying its best to be pretentious as fuck.

1/2 also has good music, something games like HK, Monodora, Ori etc are really lacking on.

>fucking a genie
Gay.

I think both are on the Game Pass. Just try them for 1 buck.

well then transformations as B attacks, but if you press select she goes into dancing stance and you have to manually input a transformation combination which gets you charged aura on one specific move or a boost, color coded so that both players can see what you are planning. The faster you press the input the safer to pull this move is.

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>NOT liking genie girls

Literally explain yourself.

youtu.be/buhxqbrY-Do

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Are you actually trying to say that HGH is a better game than HK?
It's fine if you enjoyed HGH more for whatever reason since they're different genres and metroidvanias might not be your thing, but there is a marginal difference in quality between the two.

Assblasted Stevefag detected

Xenoblade 2 won't be truly well represented until he's in

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What if it's a trick and they're doing her Smash reveal too?

>Borvar

I don't even want Steve retard. Just proving how bullshit the whole "deserving" shit is.

>Metroidvanias
I wish people would stop using this term, really. HK can't be neither Metroid or Castlevania on any type of shape of form. It's just a long indie game with a huge and confusing map.

HGH is a game that cuts the crap and puts you in fun levels with fun music. Sure it got a lot of problems to be fixed I agree, at least the fun is consistent.

>huge and confusing maps
It's called explorative gameplay user, and it's a staple of metroidvanias, the fun lies in exploring each area and finding cool stuff.

If you do not enjoy that kind of gameplay then yes, a linear level based platformer like HGH is probably better for you, but the exploration it does have is very underwhelming since it all just leads to those otherwise useless collectibles you need to reach the final boss.
Which makes replaying each level over and over again not alot of fun, something the devs must be aware of since they included that function to atleast skip parts of each level.

Just make them a wheel and limit them to the Harpy, Monkey, Elephant and Spider. Hold B, and it gives you a wheel like in HGH. It functions like Shulk where when you let go whatever transformation you were inputting is your transformation. For the people who want unique dances for each form, hovering over whatever form will change her dance animation. Alternatively tapping B will give you a Rhythm meter similar to Donkey Kong and after the first beat you can tap to the rhythm to change dances, second beat is Monkey, third is Elephant, Fourth is Harpy and fifth is Spider. Naturally the beat would be fast so you aren't wasting time. To incentivize doing it this way that individual attack becomes more powerful. Harpy functions as her recovery, Monkey gets Monkey Bullet, Spider spits venom/acid and Elephant is a stomp.

Metroid is called Metroid because it's part of the Metroid series. I like Metroid, I like exploring Metroid maps.

Castlevania is called Castlevania because it's part of the Castlevania series. I like Castlevania, I like exploring Castlevania maps.

Hollow Knight is a indie game with a map. I don't like Hollow Knight, I don't feel like exploring anything on the map.

I hope I made it clear why it's so fucking retarded to use the Metroidvania label when none of the hooks that are in the Metroid and Castlevania series are presented in these artsie fartsie games. I sure as shit uninstalled that joke of a game that is Guacamelee the moment I could move my character, for example. I got so many other examples of games that just rubbed in my face the Metroidvania label, none of them could replicate the feel of the actual Metroid and Castlevania games.

>CTRL-F Spirit
>0 results
Oh for fuck's sake...
>Homestuckposter
Equally as bad as Steve/Shantae/Bandana Dee posters if you ask me.

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based

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me on the far right

The pillow?

I think you are still expected to use a controller with apple arcade.

Wayfoward made a joke using the "maps with blue rooms" definition in one of their recent games. That's what that genre should be called, it would make a whole lot more sense than Metroidvania.

>PS4
Why
Shantae isn't some fanservice focused series but it does have a decent amount of it. No way will they make it through uncensored.

Why do Shantae threadfs ways derail in to pedophile threads?

Maybe he likes to watch.

Just like they trick us on one of their DLC trailer/tease video or something and all we got is stupid spirit
youtu.be/xib54tPIB9g

>B-but spirit doesn't make hurr durr deconf-
GOT ANY PROOF FOR THIS SHIT? Did sakurai himself even said that?

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That's more likely

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>not wishing for her to be white

So let's say she did get in, each of her taunts would certainly be one of the different dance inputs from the classic game, but what would her Final Smash be?

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>New Sega rep gets in
>It's Shion with Lionman and Asha alt costumes

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It's pretty simple, both Metroid and the Castlevania games taking after SotN feature large maps with tons of little stuff everywhere and findable upgrades that let you access different parts of said map.
If a game employs a similar design philosophy as those two franchises it's called a metroidvania.

Hollow Knight features both a big explorable map with lots of extra stuff everywhere, and upgrades to access more areas, so it fits the bill.
The one thing i'll admit is that the reward for exploring in HK is mainly boss fights, so if you don't enjoy the combat that'll be a problem.
It's hard to argue why you enjoy the founding franchises but not the games taking after them, since you aren't really elaborating why you enjoy them, but saying there's no similarities is just objectively false.

>GigaMermaid
>Atomic canonball from pirates curse
>Lamp Absortion

Like this?

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Genii are all about twisting poorly worded wishes she should be 000fff tier 100% white

I don't follow that filisofy. Like I said, to me Metroid is one thing, Castlevania is another, a game having a big labyrinthic map doesn't make it anywhere close to those games. Fucking Etrian Odyssay uses that style of map, just with a different perspective and no one ever called those games Metroidvanias. They're dungeon crawlers. Which is what this kind of game should be called. At best 2D dungeon crawlers.

As great as Giga Mermaid would be, I don't think Nintendo would allow massive basically bare mermaid tits flopping around for an attack

Based Trigger making Shantae an honorary guest of the Triggerverse

*philosophy
Typing from my phone atm because I got perma banned from Yea Forums and thought it would auto correct.

I not quite over yet, as long we keep on trying one day she will make it

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I tried

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At this point just make Shantae a porn game

good job
Pp34 shantae on swfchan my man

Too pale.

>hot gurl
>transformation mechanics attacks; elephant, monkey, mermaid, etc...
>DANCING moves
>hair attacks
>magic attacks; fire balls, clouds + lighting, pikes shield, etc...
>pirate weapons; pistol, scimitar, cannon, etc...

I think she has lots of things to be unique, interesting and fun to play, and she doesnt look like animu girl #457 like the fire emblem cast

Swoosh

Aren't those the exact reasons why people wanted half the current roster in Smash?

What would her stage be? I would imagine the lighthouse, Burning Town or Mermaid Falls with the Giga Mermaid in the beckground.

The upgrade gated progression is also important, so that's why a normal dungeon crawler probably wouldn't qualify.
A game doesn't need to exactly be like Super Metroid or SotN to be a Metroidvania (atleast if your're not that one guy who frequents HK threads), it really is just mostly the world design and progression, that needs to be similar.

what if while risky was grabbing and spreading sky's ass she made sky fart lol

We want to show Shantae our _____!