Tax reduction for games in Brazil

>top left
>Brazilian Senate approves regulation over e-sports, all players to be recognized as athletes

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>Constitution and Justice Commission to vote on Wednesday a proposal to reduce taxation over electronic games from 72%(higher than guns) to 0%(completely exempt, same as books and printed media)

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>The President: Ministry of Economy evaluating a reduction from 16% down to 4% over information technology products, such as computer parts and phones
>also evaluating tax reduction on video games

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>info graphics showing console prices in the country, inflated up to 4x the base price

Brazil is already one of the major markets for gaming, despite the rampant piracy and gray market practices. If those bills come to pass, Brazil might even become a major consumption and production force in video games.

Are you looking forward to more huehues in your online games?

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Time to finally pull the trigger and commit to single player only.

So is this good news for them?

STAGE DIRECTION

>unbenounced to anyone in this thread, it is currently taken place in Brazil
>anyone who can't prove they have a gun gets mugged in this thread

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Are you hyped for the live fatality in 2 and a half weeks?

I was under the impression that BRs stopped being an issue, and that the chinese are the new menace.

Man, getting to see modern game graphics after 30 years of playing on Sega Mega Drives is going to blow their fucking minds.

huehuehuehuehue

For reference, the 72% tax on games is very much real.

It's not that bad. Online games are always more fun when there's national antagonism going on.

On the flipside, this might actually reduce the number of huehues jajajas around because publishers might seem fit to make local servers for South Americans.

Brazil loves video games and, despite taxes, it's already one of the cheapest forms of entertainment. This is definitely a step in the right direction because the cost of hardware will go down significantly(maybe over 50%). Buying games on launch day will also become a reality for most people.

USD$60 is an inconsequential amount for most 1st worlders but R$250 for a launch date game in Brazil is quite bitter. The majority of players make the plunge after it drops to R$140 or lower.

The exception to this are digital PC games. In General, games on Steam in Brazil are exceptionally cheap.

I was under the impression that we were viewed as an annoyance, not as a menace.

You would not believe how large the SEGA communities in Brazil are. They're still hugging their literal 30 year old Mega Drives and, more recently, many have started to appreciate SCART RGB paraphernalia for their retro SEGAs.

It's already become difficult to find PvMs.

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Is it an e-sport because they're already giving up the Copa?

As expected from the president that enjoys gaming and constantly tweets weebshit, based

How do I get a big booty brazilian gf

Wow those are sensible plans
Will kill the gaming black market completely

hit them up on instagram or facebook

Bolsonaro is based. His tweeted this during the G20 summit in Japan.

Just have some form of income and you're set.

I know, right? I will be able to actually buy my games in stores instead of importing or using gray market stalls. Who knows, maybe we might even learn to enjoy warranty and customer service!

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ok but what's the bottom left?

Literally just be white and walk down the street without getting murdered or kidnapped. They assume you have money and want in on it.

I mistyped it. The third quote paragraph is the bottom left.

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Not him but what if I don't want to be a sugar daddy?

Then you stick to black big booty women.

Everyone wants something in a relationship. If you're not going to be a sugar daddy then you must have either(or a combination of):

>be handsome
>be influential/powerful/famous
>good in bed

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>It's much cheaper to just do a quick trip to the USA and sneak a ps4 from there than buying it locally
South America is suffering

His favourite anime is bleach, which seems to be common amongst brazilians

>Recognizing video games as athletics
So this is how you kill a population. Or maybe enslave them. Convince them that sitting on their asses eating cheetos makes them athletes.

Brazilians spending all day on the couch would be a legit improvement for the economy and life expectancy in Brazil.

Go to Brazil.

I bought my PS4 for 1100 reais.

Not as cheap as the 250 USD Americans pay, but holy fuck not as expensive as 4000 reais (more than 1000 USD)

I just show up? That's it?

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Brazil is based.

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Read, go to Brazil and avoid getting murdered.
It's not that easy.

Wait, do BRs not have a thriving grey market?
I’m a slav and I get all my shit tax free and we don’t even have taxes that ridiculous.

Athletes are already far from being healthy. Also I hope you're not American, it would be very ironic if one were to comment on how to turn people into couch potatoes.

I bought mine on Mercado Livre for 1400 with 3 games bundled. If you go to a major retailer right now, they'll be selling consoles for over 2000.

We'd be able to purchase them for 1200~1500 on retailers if that tax reduction becomes real. Imagine the possibilities.

Avoid Rio the Janeiro, the place is basically a warzone. Stay within the civilized areas and you'll have no problem. Even São Paulo isn't that bad.

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This is how Ragnarok Online dies. With thunderous applause.

>Also I hope you're not American
I workout. I run and I eat healthy. Nice job making assumptions faggot. Athletes are much healthier than couch potatoes too.

werent they going to lax the gun laws so everyone could own guns and kill criminals?

I thought Brazilians already got games cheap as hell. The gray market keysites must contribute a significant chunk of revenue since they can buy up batches for peanuts and sell them for big profit in the rest of the world.

Why don't they just send in the entire military to Rio de Janeiro and just kill all the favela scum?

Because then they’d open themselves up for FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY

Yeah, games are cheap, hardware and consoles are expensive as fuck.

Also, games are usually region locked here. Steam games are.

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Yes. The grey market in Brazil has been ostensively documented, even in English.

Here's an excellent documentary on the subject.
youtube.com/watch?v=MU29Wqg_BVo

There are many issues with gray markets though. No warranties, no technical support/customer support, less popular games are expensive(weebshit stuff for example), scams, etc.

Hopefully Level Up Games dies. Now that's a future I'd love to see.

They've been trying to pass that but both Congress and the Senate are being stubborn with it. Our country has no gun culture and everyone has been raised being taught that "guns kills, guns are bad, owning guns is for murderers and criminals". Communists really ruined us good.

This has mostly to do with retail and console gaming. PC digital games in Brazil are cheap already.

It's already being done. The army kills people in Rio every day, and they also get shot and killed in return. War on drugs is pointless and Rio's case is even more pointless because:

>you have the beach coastal line
>about a few hundred meters of leveled land
>beyond that point, dozens of mountains cover the entire landscape
>every single mountain became a favela, a natural fortress that's impossible to conquer or maintain safely
>every mountain/favela is controlled by a faction, turning the city into a contained Grand Strategy game where dealers are in constant war with one another for more territory
The only solution to the favela problem is evacuating those people but it can never be done. Rio is basically doomed.

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How's the south of the country?
Heard it's much better, that there's less heat and crime.

So, only solution would be evacuating the civvies from Rio and then nuking to destroy the favelas and, hopefully, the mountains?

>communists hate guns
lol wat
When we were commies, kids were taught about using guns in grade school, army service was mandatory and every other house had grenades in the master bedroom closet.

The South(Sul) is overall the best place. Not as much crime as the rest, has a cool climate and is mostly white people.

The Southeast(Sudeste) is the economical backbone. That's where you find Rio, São Paulo, and most of the industry and accumulated wealth. Crime is high although Rio is an exception. Calling it a warzone is not an exaggeration.

The Center-West(Centro Oeste) is basically flatlands and swamps. That's where much of the cattle and food are raised. The capital is in this area.

Nordeste(north east) is the hot tropical region. Tourism is a major source of income but only for touristic places like beaches and shit. The inland areas are highly lawless, undeveloped and miserable.

The North is the fucking jungle, almost all of it. Refugees from Venezuela have recently made it even worse.

There never should have been a major city in that place at all. With so much organize crime, those mountains turn into favelas, which in turn are natural fortifications that are impossible for police forces to oversee.

The way communism works in South America is by turning countries into dictatorships. The first step of any authoritarian regime is to disarm the population.

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>Endo
Why are there so many Japanese in Brazil?

Yeah and I'm a calligraph because I still use cursive

>Brazil is more developed in terms of vidya than usa
basedzil

>The first Japanese immigrants arrived in Brazil in 1908. Brazil is home to the largest Japanese population outside Japan.[8] According to the IBGE, as of 2009 there were approximately 1.6 million people of Japanese descent in Brazil, and estimated at just under 1.5 million as of 2014.[1] Since the 1980s, a return migration has emerged of Japan Brazilians to Japan.[9] More recently, a trend of interracial marriage has taken hold among Brazilians of Japanese descent, with the racial intermarriage rate approximated at 50% and increasing.[1]

>Between the end of the 19th and early 20th centuries, coffee was the main export product of Brazil. At first, Brazilian farmers used African slave labour in the coffee plantations, but in 1850, the slave trade was abolished in Brazil.

>To solve the labour shortage, the Brazilian elite decided to attract European immigrants to work on the coffee plantations. This also was in line the government's push towards "whitening" the country.

>The end of feudalism in Japan generated great poverty in the rural population, so many Japanese began to emigrate in search of better living conditions. By the 1930s, Japanese industrialisation had significantly boosted the population. However, prospects for Japanese people to migrate to other countries were limited. The US had banned non-white immigration from some parts of the world[13] on the basis that they would not integrate into society; this Exclusion Clause, of the 1924 Immigration Act, specifically targeted the Japanese.

>In 1907, the Brazilian and the Japanese governments signed a treaty permitting Japanese migration to Brazil. This was due in part to the decrease in the Italian immigration to Brazil and a new labour shortage on the coffee plantations.

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mas os melhores jogos ja são de graça?

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>implicando que você conseguiu terminar homerun derby

Basically, the government started importing poor Euros and nips to replace niggers when slavery was abolished. The best traits of thee Japanese quickly became evident when all of them started to prospect. I have never ever met a Japanese descendant that did not belong to a rich family that owned some sort of business.

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>comprando jogos novos
>não jogando nada além de kof'02

Cada ideia besta.

>southern country
>good for anything other than a vacation
Doesn't exist, will never exist

>>Constitution and Justice Commission to vote on Wednesday a proposal to reduce taxation over electronic games from 72%(higher than guns) to 0%(completely exempt, same as books and printed media)
Finally I won't have to pirate anymore

Our time will come.

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>BRs
>China
Entirely different problems my man

Not a Bolsonaro fan at all (although this wasn’t even him, his own advisors admit he doesn’t have a single economic idea of his own. Guedes maybe?) but Brazil’s retarded tech and games tax had to go. I have no idea what is up with protectionist Latin American government’s taxing things like that. I get how they justify taxing imports for some things that can be locally produced, but with tech there is pretty much no way you are making anything 100% in Brazil on any large scale.

The entire concept comes from the notion that "we've gotta protect ourselves from foreign imperial interests that seek to destroy our industry".

I am okay with Bolsonaro not having any ideas of his own. Guedes has a good head in his shoulder, I trust he'll make the right calls.

Now if only people would stop voting literal clowns into congress, that would be amazing progress.

... yes? The games and the consoles will be a lot cheaper.

Don't care. I pirate everything anyway.

Oh yes, the thriving Brazilian video game industry. Sarcasm aside I know they do have their own system (weebo or something like that?) and a GPU OEM or two but neither of them are gonna compete with foreign tech companies.
I liked Lula from his Intercept interview, but I’d love to see him or someone else from PT justify a 72% tax on fucking video games. Did nobody in your country ever push for that to get dropped before now? You’d think with the poorer constituents that PT goes for that would be a very popular policy.

>I have no idea what is up with protectionist Latin American government’s taxing things like that.
Politicians arent exactly the brightest people in the world. I wouldnt be surprised if at some point they actually thought that decision would foster internal industry despite the glaring lack of necessary technology and expertise, there was also a high chance of prejudice and exploitative tendencies toward a market that was nascent at the time.

DID THE GAMERS RISE UP IN BRAZIL?

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>Sarcasm aside
Its pretty much not largely sarcastic anymore, but most dont notice because its exclusively mobile and sometimes indie.
There are considerable investments going around, although moving out from the indie/mobile market will remain unlikely for the foreseeable future.

>Constitution and Justice Commission to vote on Wednesday a proposal to reduce taxation over electronic games from 72%(higher than guns) to 0%(completely exempt, same as books and printed media)
How much is the chance that they approve it ?

MiBR are dumb monkey niggers as are all brasilians

The CCJ is a small group that evaluates proposals and makes recommendations to other Senators. The proposal was filed as a public suggestion in the internet and has received humongous support from the public. There is also a consensus that more taxes will be collected because people will actually buy games then.

Pretty high chance I'd say. I've yet to see any arguments against it and it goes hand in hand with the executive's platform and interests.

So you have all kinds of potential gfs over there.
Nice.

>his own advisors admit he doesn’t have a single economic idea of his own
Nothing wrong with this. I wish all politicians would just admit they don't know anything about economics.

I thought Brazillians loved DBZ and Saint Seiya the most.

Kkkkkkkkk #vamosSK Inc.

Those are mexicans who fucking love dbz and seiya.

Saint Seiya was huge but it's kinda niche nowadays, at least in comparison with the rest of LA. DBZ is still the rage, but the Big Three hit Brazil like a tidal wave at just the right moment where Internet became more accesible and going weeb became "cool".

>Brazil loves video games
show me a country that doesn't

Soviet Union

>Videogame taxes

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This. In particular, Naruto is growing to become boomercore culture. Turns out that nearly everyone I know likes it. Even younger people have started watching it.

You don't seem to understand Brazil's obsession with retro games. It's a huge part of our culture, more than most 3rd world places.

what's that? another eceleb?

Thanks for posting about this, but I gotta remind you that Brazil is actually a very tiny market specifically because of all the bullshit you mentioned in your post. Maybe these changes can help fix that, but your country is still a third-world hellhole and you gotta work on that before you get a population who can actually contribute much.

We're obsessed with vidya, and even the poorest, most uneducated BR knows DBZ/Saint Seiya lore from heart.

e-sports regulation is a bad thing you dumb statist nigger

>I liked Lula from his Intercept interview, but I’d love to see him or someone else from PT justify a 72% tax on fucking video games.
They just didn't seem to care. 72% came from the taxes for gambling machines, and videogames were just lumped with them. Then no one put serious effort to change that until recently.

>I liked Lula from his Intercept interview
LOL

>You’d think with the poorer constituents that PT goes for that would be a very popular policy.
He's a literal fucking communist, why the fuck do you think a communist would be lowering taxes?