Anyone else excited for Dragon Quest Builders 2?

>the game that made me buy a PS4
fucks sake

>buy our ports, we'll support the Switch if you do
>hey, we didn't say we wouldn't half-ass the games. We just said we'd support it
And third parties wonder why consumers who buy Nintendo platforms don't support them. They either lie and never deliver, or do these half-measures.

I would be if it were releasing on any relevant platform

I liked builders 1 but console gaming has become increasingly undesirable this gen, I wish they'd just put 2 on PC. It's not like there aren't already DQ games on steam.

Sorry :^(

I feel kinda bad for everyone that's getting this game for the Switch, it doesn't help that the demo is sort of misleading when it comes to performance.

Thank god for this thread I was about to get it on Switch with that voucher stuff, guess I'll go ps4

What the fuck happened. There goes any excitement I had for the game. It's a shame too. The first one was literally the best thing I played all year.

Shit, I didn't think it was THIS bad. I was really looking forward to it.

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>all those houses

Fuck that is so awesome

Still hyped here

FPS is a non-issue for me unless it becomes so laggy that everything is unplayable.

Should be fine if you don't build too big though right? My PS4 is hacked so the PS4 version is a no go for me.

i pre loaded it on switch today even with the frame issues and all. if it had a pc release i would just do that, but knowing how SE are worse than capcom with awful pc ports maybe that would suck too

only 1 good one, those dynasty warrior spinoffs dont even work well either

I've seen people say that the frame rate issues start as soon as you get into Chapter 2.

Fuck.

Well that's a bummer. No wonder Enix only lists the PS4 version in all the trailers...

the switch cant play multiplats well, thats why i dont like it. if nintendo actually pushed out more than 3 first party titles this wouldnt be an issue

I am

post tits

Can you tame monsters? And how is fighting?

Oof that's gonna be a yikes from me

Not their fault Nintendo pooped out a fisher price tablet instead of a real console.

I am . Very. And my wallet is fucking dying as a result. These months are absolutely packed with games.

nice meme. don't defend shit devs and lazy ports

>dqb on pc
>mod to build actual brothel released asap
Yes please.

Is there online? That was the deal breaker with the first game for me, aside from that it seemed comfy af

2 is just 1 with more items, a water shader and god rays

What ever helps you cope

Nintendo themselves published the game. It's no hope bro

I'm not coping I'm buying it for PS4. I had 1 on Switch and it was gud, 2 could have been very easily with some minor visual downgrades that would have made it look just like 1 with non-shit frame rates.

2 on Switch even seems to have like 2x AA active for some fucking reason.

So, what can you do in this game that you cannot do in Minecraft for example?

Is there any sort of preorder bonus faggotry for this shit or naw? Cause if naw i guess ill just wait a tad before getting it.

The game plays more like a very basic dark cloud than minecraft, has a nice comfy story where you're told to go fetch and build things for the town usually or go explore and find npcs and solve puzzles/find secrets, building whatever you want in your free time, in the first game there were bosses at the end of each chapter.

>building game will be fine! just don't build TOO much!
it's going to be shit. get PS4 vers or wait for a PC port.

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Yes but PS4 has more goodies, as usual Square Enix loves to make Switch owners feel left out

Afaik based onb1, it has Story mode and Sandbox mode, and with 2 you can get companions and hunt monsters together, also you can build furnitures and interact with it on 1 and you can now earn exp when fighting monsters, like an open world RPG but Minecraft

The game is a better Minecraft.

Im fucking sick of Toriyama's style 2bh

Disappointing that the game lags on Switch but I can deal with it, I have pre-ordered the game since day fucking 1 and it took me more than a year to wait for DQB2, nothing can stop me now from building 8 storey tall 60x60 glass tower on the middle of Tantegel plains

If they used him in anything other than 2 things (Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest) I would complain too but since its only in those things I don't see why it would be a problem.

>a better minecraft
the only real similarity is the voxel based world. they aren't really comparable, as they play nothing alike

nice meme. don't defend shit companies that have barely any improvements between console generations and keep wasting potential in favor of gimmicks.

Devs aren't going to keeo downgrading their games all the time just so you can bing bing wahoo on the shitter, faggot.

I do think they deserved to be compared with one another because their core gameplay of these games is pretty much the same and both games invokes the creativity within the player.

No, where the fuck is the PC version?

I can't go PS4 my PS4 is hacked and on 5.05 and I refuse to lose those hacks.
I'll just hope we get a port or pirate the Switch version.

Also I was meaning more I wont wont be building too much.

i enjoyed the first game on PS4, but i dont really want to give sony any money
i'll get it if they release it on PC

Ye

I already played the JP version. I might get the US version if my friend happens to buy it and wants me to build shit with him though. Honestly I liked the first better though. If I could just hijack a few things from 2 and stuff them into 1, I could play it for months.

Thank god I’m getting it for PS4 pro YAH

SILKY SMOOTH 10 FPS

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Yes you can tame monsters. The fighting is basically identical to the first game's, just you almost always have Malroth following you around beating on shit, too. Mechanically, it's the same combat though.

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I am as hyped as this announcer

The fucking framerate holy shit.

Switch version looks more cinematic and you can play on the go

>Yes but PS4 has more goodies, as usual Square Enix loves to make Switch owners feel left out

What are the pre order bonuses even? are they that worthwhile to chose one over the other or naw?

>as usual Square Enix loves to make Switch owners feel left out
The fuck? 1 had the Sabrecub on Switch that PS4 never got. Also, Octopath, DQXI-s, etc.

Picking it up for PS4. It almost slipped under my radar.

My fucking sides.

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mod in pippa from 1 to provide the puff puff

One other difference is that it seem like there's no durability like in the first game.

Just finished downloading the demo last night, can't wait! CTR Grand Prix is happening first, though.

Also running into monsters no longer injures you, they have to attack. Makes it much nicer for weird camera sections or wonky hitboxes.

>another halfassed port

why dont people buy their games on the switch???

It looks like a fucking slideshow.

Shit now that's a disappointment. I wanted the portable version because I played the first one on the Vita. Guess I'll be getting it on the ps4pro

at some point you're going to have to acknowledge the switch as the common element of all the shit performance and issues

the wii u was incontrovertible proof that buying a multiplat on nintendo hardware is a bad fucking idea
anyone subjecting themselves to it with the switch has earned everything that comes to them

>wanted to play this on my Switch
I still have a PS4 to play it on but that's a bummer

Nintendo could release a firmware update with a slight overclock that could only improve performance with no downsides. Hacked switch are a proof of it.
They won't do it though, gotta buy the new models goy.

Down side is heating, no one is willing to overclock and keep it at that level since the fan cant keep up.

>this might be as bad of a port as the DQH collection
>one of the only games I've seen on Switch that changes textures based on what mode you're in
>still runs like shit
>most people mad that they never updated it despite having more content than any other version
>framerate could have probably been fixed if they ran docked at 900p

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Malroth is my wife.

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That’s guy tho?

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>the frame rate on the Switch version sucks

Are you fucking kidding me? I was looking forward to that shit. Should I just get the first game instead? I was gonna get it but I figured "hey, the sequel's right around the corner, why bother?"

Nintendo already overclock the cpu in BotW and Odyssey, why not doing it for all the games available?
probably because third parties would optimize even less.

>ywn fuck the final boss

They did it for VR support and loading issues, the only other game to use the OC is Mortal Kombat.

t-they can fix it right? what the fuck I actually kida wanted this...

>Builders 2 demo comments on his open shirt
They knew how much art would be done based on him.

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No, would be hype for minecraft but with DBZ skins?

The first game had a bad frame rate on Switch too, didn't it? Anyhow, the first game is good and has its own story line.

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>All the switchtards ITT

Are you retarded? Do any of you do research at all

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the second one has at least 10 times more content than the first one

But the switch doesn't melt itself and every game would benefit from it, VR or not.

It wasn't as noticeable on the first one is the thing. Sure, the framerate would go up at night when there's less stuff to render and it was pretty jarring even then but this is way too much.

Same. Gotta pay extra for that sweet model revision to make it playable I guess.

Demo was mostly dialog with gameplay interrupting it.
Not the experince im looking for in a game anymore.
Lets see when the real thing comes out.

Does this mean the framerate for DQ11 on switch is gonna be ass?

I mean I can tell the difference but it's not really in any way that would stop me from enjoying it. Frame rate is really the thing that I care about. Slightly poor resolution is something that I don't really mind.

Its not that easy simple, some games get benefits if they are designed to scale like Doom, while things like Mortal Kombat saw almost no improvements from the max possible OC and just drained the battery like nothing.
Best possible outcome for that would be if they allowed OCs that were tested like fucking crazy to keep systems from melting and prevent portable OCs entirely since that is just a mess at the moment.

The common element being that most third party devs are too used to the age of excess. They stopped caring about file sizes and optimization, and refuses to pay for a competent company to port their games to the Switch. There are quite a few examples of games that were competently ported that sold well on the Switch ie Mortal Kombat, Diablo 3, Doom, etc... Just admit the fact that most devs are cheap and lazy people that just rather do straight ports instead of putting any effort or money at optimizing the port.

>People whose only console is a switch
>Using their brain

Hey now. I also own a Wii AND an original xbox you fucking cunt. My Xbox isn't working at the moment though.

>The first game had a bad frame rate on Switch too, didn't it?

For fuck's sake, really? Maybe I should just get Minecraft instead, unless you're about to tell me that the Switch version sets your house on fire and kicks you in the balls.

Anyone who's into pixel counting figure out the resolution for DQ11S?
Docked looks too sharp to be 720p but I doubt its 1080p

First one had fine framerate, minecraft on switch thought still runs 60fps with slight dips on servers with 10k+ players.

>Just admit the fact that most devs are cheap and lazy people that just rather do straight ports instead of putting any effort or money at optimizing the port.

What are the exceptions to the rule, though? What third party ports on the Switch are actually good?

Should I just wait to see if they do something about DQB2's framerate or is that not gonna happen?

Now I'm genuinely curious as to what did they do to the sequel that is causing this framerate issue.

Maybe if we complain enough? I genuinely want this game but I don't want to buy another console right now.

Nigga, I gave you some examples already in my post. Do you even read?

CHING CHONG PING PONG!!

Not gonna happen, it's been out for months in japan, we're at version 1.5.1a or something.
it would have happened already if there was one.

Yessir! I’m quite disappointed it doesn’t have couch co op though.

Square didn't touch the JP version and never touched DQH so I doubt anything will happen for this version, especially since Square isn't even marketing it.
The only game that will get any support is DQ11S because Nintendo wont let them live it down if its bad and Hori desperately wanted to make this game despite Square not wanting it to happen.

It's really weird because undocked the game runs around 50-60fps but docked it's 30 and below.

Like what the fuck? Fix that shit Square

>There are quite a few examples of games that were competently ported that sold well on the Switch ie Mortal Kombat, Diablo 3, Doom, etc...
It's like you can't read or something. Also stuff like CTR:NF and even things like Warframe and Fortnite run well enough on the damn thing. So why can't others put in that effort?
More like why can't everyone pay Red Button for porting given they know what they are doing with the switch.

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>Doom

Doesn't the Switch version lack Snapmap? That was one of the main reasons I wanted it.

Quite a few games honestly work like this and it's getting stupid fast.
>Saints Row the Third is nearly unplayable docked, but solid 60FPS handheld
>Bloodstained in the same camp
>Now Builders 2 joins them
Come on devs...

Bloodstained is a fat fucking mess all around. Can't believe they fucked up the Switch version that hard.

I think you meant Panic Button. They, along with Iron Galaxy, seems to be one of the few companies that seems to know what to do to make games run on the Switch, which is mind-boggling.

...

Yeah. They removed it because people making customs maps could exceed the load that the switch could handle and cause crashes as a result. Sadly part of the tradeoff on making it work, but they took the time and effort to make it work is the point. Instead of just porting it with descaling and hoping that does all the work for them.

Wait, you sure you guys didn't get that backwards? How in the fuck does it make sense for the setup that doesn't have to worry about saving up battery to perform worse?

Wait so the game is fine undocked? I mean I mostly use my switch docked but I don't mind playing it undocked if it works decently

There are still some drops, but it is WAY smoother in handheld mode than docked.

Makes no sense.

Well then fuck it, guess I'm not getting it. Why did they have to botch the Switch version? It's like they don't want my money.

Given how it's somehow impossible to fix the framerate issue given the engine the game is running on, Nintendo should just bite the bullet and pay them extra to make a definitive edition of the game with pure spritework instead of 2.5/3D. It would make everyone happy.

PC release when?

Because the power difference between modes isn't as drastic as people think, and dev's forget the game's going to autoscale down to 480p already by default.So you acually overall tend to have a bit more resources undocked then docked, but people already trim the game for undocked by so much that it ends up being what the game -should- have been running at. Dev's in this era don't have the foresight to grasp this though, and the only people beyond homebrew that get this is Panic Button and Iron Galaxy.

Only thing I can think of is the lower resolution while undocked might help, but still.

>Given how it's somehow impossible to fix the framerate issue given the engine the game is running on

Travis Strikes Again is 60fps. Same engine.

I got a PS4 but I wanted to get it on switch, fuck

Was before I found out how they're handling multi.

TSA is mostly barren levels and enemies. Comparing the two is not quite the same. Bloodstained simply has a lot of stuff going on in the back and foreground.

This. I'm getting it for PS4 now and it sucks because I got the first game for Switch and I'll probably sell my copy of the first game and get it for PS4 because I'm an autistic collectorfag

Well, guess I'm getting it on PS4

This has to be it. Still gonna hold off for a month or two probably to see if there are any fixes/improvements.

The games been out for a year already, what makes you think they'd care to release a patch?

So does the game run better on handheld or is it just 10 fps no matter what?

Now hold the fuck up, you have to be over exagerating here. Tell me, did you experience this from the demo or retail version?

The power of ameriutts complaining.

I played the demo in handheld and didn't notice any glaring issues with the framerate.

>can turn protags voice on and off
hey thats pretty neat

Wow, they cherrypicked the shit out of what they did show. What a fucking embarrassment.

Hold up, I was watching a benxc video and in the demo, found my way to a church with a shit ton of glow blocks, and they tank the framerate. This was handheld btw.

Will DB1 even be worth playing at this point? I assume the story doesn't matter and the building will be better in this game anyways.

Heads up, resolution plays a big part in framerate on consoles

I hope they bring this to PC. Being able to mod this game would be fucking awesome

repeating my questions seeing the thread it's more active

do the world still reset after beating the big bad?
can you actually build freely instead of a shitty designated place?

>I assume the story doesn't matter
It's an RPG before a building game. The story matters if you care. DQB1 tells the story of a world where the hero of DQ1 sided with the big bad.
>and the building will be better in this game anyways
True, but the building in 1 was good enough that I loved 1 when I played it.

Didn't SE say something about wanting to bring their library to PC? They've already got FF ports going so I'm really surprised that this isn't launching with a PC port
the only PC DQ games are 11 and Heroes

PC ports of DQ is handheld by the Square side of things while Enix would rather have Nintendo versions than Pc

What the fuck? I swear I was having framerate issuse but now both docked and undocked are fine?

Honestly I'll probably just start playing Minecraft over this

You have a base island you can do whatever you want with. All the story happens on seperate islands that have a designated area for a base on the island where all the NPCs will be

There's nothing stopping you from building all over the place but only the designated area will have any actual effect on the game

>not having both a PS4 and a Switch for optimal Dragon Quest experience
>Not playing the iOS/Android versions of DQ I-IV
>Not having DQ Builders 1 + 2 and DQ Heroes 1 + 2 on PS4 and then waiting for Definitive Version on Switch
>Not having a 3DS for DQ V-IX
Are you faggots even DQ fans?

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Demos so boring and the graphics somehow look worse

How is it even allowed to release games in this state? What the fuck Square?
Guess I'll just remote play it in bed.

I get it, Switch is portable blablabla but fuck man those framedrops, the graphics are awful too compared to the PS4 version. What the fuck is wrong with people who buy the Switch version over the PS4 version? It's not like you have the time to build big fucking cities on the go.

They're faggots first and foremost

>living with ur mum

Since this is a Dragon Quest thread, does anybody have a link to the 3rd season of The Hero Yoshiko? I watched the first two but have never been able to find a full english sub of the 3rd season.

Oh fuck user, you’re living with my mom? Feel bad for you honestly.

Check with the general on /vg/, only they would know and are one of the few that are actually helpful.

Demos for this kind of game are always boring. The process of learning the controls and functions feels slow and clunky, but the game picks up speed once you're out of the tutorial. DQB1 definitely gets better the more options open up and the faster you get at the controls.

>this guy has been building a city with this kind of framerate for a while
How do you not get headaches from this?

m8 it takes ages to build something like that so he's probably a useless neet

Dear god well at least now I know to get it on ps4

Wait is the Twitter video from pre-built area or someone replicated the city in both systems?
It's Japan so i can never be sure.

It's something he has built. There's probably some cross platform stuff going on with saves

How is this even a surprise?

>meme
youtube.com/watch?v=GB_6lw_dh8A

it's not surprising that the switch version has bad framerate
but it's surprising that it's THAT bad

I have been looking forward to comfy portable dragon quest builders 2 fun
I am now depressed for life
How did they get the switch port of DQB2 so so so so so so so so wrong
I hate my life
I hate my life
Why can't anything good just happen to me for once
My only hope is if the final western release of the game comes with a patch that improves performance
But it wont happen
It never happens
It can't happen
How foolish of me to think that it could happen
Goodbye everyone

From the footage I've been seeing the game only starts being laggy when you build towns.
Shame that it's the entire fucking point of it

Well fuck, I'm getting it PS4 then.

It's that bad because the guy had built up a massive sprawling city. I'm sure smaller scale projects won't be as bad as that video.

Are the preorder bonuses getting a seperate release eventually? i kinda wanted to get it physically.

Am I the only one who has noticed how fucked the season pass and preorders are?
>switch gets different preorder bonuses than ps4 (this is fine I suppose)
>switch dlc pass gives you the three standard packs and then a fourth with some new crafting recipes
>ps4 gives you sunglasses and the standard three packs
>ps4 PHYSICAL PREORDER only gives you three preorder items
>PS4 DIGITAL preorder gives you NINE preorder items

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Not even the first botched dragon quest switch port, watch some footage of heroes 1 and 2 and marvel at that performance.
I wasted 80 bucks importing it when I already had the PS4 versions
I'm a big idiot

While that city is huge, the game does drop below 30 fps very easily

personally don't care much about DLC items
Its fine if I got them, okay if its not

Getting the physical for sure

Yeah, I'll be buying both games as soon as I can afford a p4

The Switch version also has that physical/digital pre-order disparity and has sunglasses with the dlc.