Thoughts on Total War Warhammer2? I’ve been thinking of buying both games since they’re on sale

lizard man are extremely good, their whole existence is to kill Chaos, it's a load of bullshit they lost in the end times because they literary spent millennia just warding up Lustria against demons

Total warhammer 2 is good, but it only really shines if you buy TWW1 and play Mortal empires.

t. 300 hours in TWW2

Reminder to give your dad hugs

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>it's a load of bullshit they lost in the end times because they literary spent millennia just warding up Lustria against demons
Yeah but Chaos didn't win. Skaven did.
>Who wins; the combined might of of the most powerful races of all time vs 1 ratboi with a moon magnet

Each race on the surface level is just a collection of tropes and rip off of other fantasy works. But beneath the surface they each actually have really interesting lore thanks to the many novels and stories. Skaven in particular are a fun race to read about.

The man story is Order vs Chaos, but there have been plenty of wars between each race. So if you want to role-play your campaign a certain way, there are a ton of "Canon" options.

God tier game with fun lore although TWW2 crashes while loading a lot of the time on my toaster

Anybody else deal with this?

Empire: Regular ol' humans. Vaguely based off of the Holy Roman Empire. Steel, Faith, and Gunpowder. That fun stuff.
Bretonnia: Medieval France combined with Arthurian legends. They love their heavy cavalry.
High Elves: They are exactly what you picture when you see the word High Elf.
Wood Elves: Same thing
Dark Elves: Sadomasochistic elves. All of them are witches, pirates, slavers, and assassins.
Dwarves: Tolkien dwarves, but they hold grudges forever until the grudges are repaid.
Greenskins: Orcs and goblins that spread like a fungus and just won't die.
Lizardmen: Giant lizard aztecs that rigidly follow the plans of the Old Ones. They are the closest thing Warhammer has to a neutral faction.
Vampire Counts: Literally just Vampires.
Tomb Kings: Undead Egyptians
Skaven: Giant humanoid rats that tunnel underneath everything in the world, breed like crazy, invade whole towns and murder everyone, etc.
Beastmen: Humans twisted and mutated by chaos to resemble beasts like minotaurs and stuff. They rape and eat people.
Norscans: Chaos vikings
Warriors of Chaos: Evil, mutated, hulking warriors in armor that worship the chaos gods and follow Archaon to help him bring about an end to the world.
Lore: In the beginning there were the Old Ones. They created most of the races and had a plan for the world. Then Chaos happened, they died, and everyone has been fighting each other ever since.

Thousand times better than Three Chinkdoms, turn timers excluded.

Empire: good guys but are stupid as fuck

Bretonnia: the other human faction, class divisions between nobles and peasants, horses. That’s pretty much it

High Elves: special snowflakes who use magic and stuff, just watch lotr

Dwarfs: angry bitter shitty manlets

Vampire counts: zombies and vampires, because a generic fantasy setting wouldn’t be complete without them

Greenskins: le crazy epic funny orcs. oh and they grow out of fungus because lol so randumb xD

Skaven: giant rats who want to kill everything or something idk

Lizardmen: another generic fantasy trope race, they were the first race created so at least that’s something, they’re good guys

Warriors of Chaos: humans who have been corrupted by chaos

Dark Elves: elves but edgy that’s pretty much it

Wood elves: elves who live in woods

Beastmen: furry animal crossbred humans who want to kill and rape everything

Chaos dwarves: evil dwarfs

Tomb kings: more undead, live in pyramids

Norsca: more warriors of chaos but live in the frozen tundra, Viking ripoffs and in general an asspull race that was sold as dlc

Vampire coast: zombie pirates, another asspull dlc race

Ogre kingdoms: another generic forced evil race. Literally just dumbfuck ogres

Chaos Daemons: generic demons who want to destroy the world, they do and this kills the franchise, literally, LMAO

That’s pretty much it.

Whats the most Jewish faction?

Skaven, alternatively dwarves.

>empire of man
Humans are just humans, they're the cookie cutter race and just strive to survive and wipe out undead or evil forces to secure their own existence and take extreme measure of faith and devotion and sometimes brutality to avoid being tainted by the forces of the evil gods, Chaos
>dwarfs
Dwarfs are the coolest race, the absolute most badass fuckers, they're a small lower population race that isolate themselves away in cave cities and have kickass technology for brewery and sometimes fighting, they're also incredibly fucking pissed at all times, how angry they are is a core gameplay mechanic
>elves
The Elves are written by "That kid" who cannot stand their race losing, and are seemingly perfect and better in every way and are obnoxious fucknugget wastes of space but are always the most important parts of the story plot points because of their inane faggotry and inability to lose because they're just that overpowered, they like to spend their time getting ultra STD's and shitting in the woods and generally being the most unlikable race in the entire existence of humanity and you'd do yourself a favor to exterminate them as early as possible at any given chance
>orks
Fungal creatures that are your standard orks of fantasy sorta, but they're bigger meaner and live for fighting, their sole existence is to have fun fighting and proving that they're the strongest. They love fighting so much and it's such an integral part of their existence that if they dont find something else to fight, they will fight each other sometimes driving their tribes out of existence, they are the true nuetral since they sometimes fight the "good" forces, and sometimes fight the evil forces and sometimes team up/help with either as long as they can fight or it will help their goal with fighting

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I always wonder if these are shitty attempts at marketing or genuine. Threads like these pop up more frequently during a sale. There's an entire shitty general on vg that I frequent that will answer you honestly. There are shitloads of videos online.

Skaven

get it if you like warhammer
don't if you like shogun 2

>Vampire coast: zombie pirates, another asspull dlc race
The Vampire coast wasn't an asspull. Luthor Harkon has been prominently featured in Warhammer Fantasy since 4th edition. The VC had its own army with its own units.

Skaven, without a doubt

this list is shit desu
>greenskins have a cockney accent and are genetically aggressive so that makes them randumb
>listing races as asspulls
>in warhammer
really?

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I can’t wait to play as these nasty fuckers in Warhammer 3.

Ogres are resistant to chaos and would stand the best chance at defeating them but they got warped into a furious hunger that will never be sated

This reads like it was made by someone who plays Age of Sigmar.

Ye, the prophet and the warlock still not cracked

spotted the AoSfag

When are chaos daemons coming out?

hey now, we dont need to be insulting people that hard

Game 3 probably.

Pretty much been confirmed for the third game by the devs.

I want to play as slutty Daemonettes and seduce everyone.

Pirate 1.5.0 off shitgirl and then use the crackfix off codex and you get 99% of the retail game without shelling out $100 for wh1/2 and DLC.

TOTAL WARHAMMER 3 WHEN??? IM SO READY FOR PAPA NURGLE

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Garbage game

That pic looks so comfy

Shaven can't be Jews cause they're Nazis

>what's a zionist?

Lower your settings and update your drivers. It worked for me.

lizardmen are the nobel savages™ faction that wants to exterminate all the impure races

Nazi's are literally a Jewish invention

Is it true that slaanesh demons are a bunch of trannies?

They are androgynous hermaphrodites like Slaanesh.

Nope, futanari's, very different

>high elves
>arrogant
nibba when you teach someone to walk you're allowed to nudge them in your preferred policy direction with harsh words

whats the difference

Trannies have to change, hence the word "trans".
Androgynous hermaphrodite is the daemons normal form.

Trannies change.

Futanaris are born like that.

If the Ultramuhreens got their spiritual liege back why didn't Sigmar come back for the Empire?

Don't even bother with 1. Worse mechanics and all the hot girls are in 2 anyway.

It's gay when a tranny fucks you in the ass, but not when a futa does it

He did during shit times

He came back when Karl Franz died but lost the battle for the Warhammer World.

Probably one of the most complete fantasy strategy games to date. Sadly you need to buy the first and second games and all the DLC to get the full experience and access to mortal empires which is the game map with all the factions on it. Also the loading times on AI turns is absolutely disgusting on mortal empires, even on an ssd it takes years to process a turn in the late game. Other than that it's pretty fun, PvP is great if you're into that and there's a lot of variety. AI leaves something to be desired and increases in difficulty buff their morale instead of giving them new tricks but I still consider it to generally be fun.

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Aaaaaaahhhh why can't we play as a crusading Brettonian army

... you can?

>I feel like playing a campaign that isn't delves
>end up starting another episode of delves

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If only the models looked this good in-game.

Vampirates!

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I lost my shit at this.
Who would win, Toad-Ladd, mightiest living mage in all existence, or like 50 bum ass verminlords

Good boy.

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It has it's moments.

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I hope that one day we will have a Total War game set in Warcraft universe.

Honestly, Norsca and Vampire Coast are the DLC's I've enjoyed most

Like 3/4ths of their units are fucking reskins.

I love the game but

>2-3 minute turn timers
>not alt-tab friendly
>takes up ten million gigabytes

this combo killed me

What kind of computer do u have that lets u play the game like this? I need to get a new computer soon and would like to play these visuals

It's fun

Maybe, but I still like Norsca better than Chaos. Same goes for Vampirates.

>empire
Germanic renaissance humans. Founded by barbarian tribes united under a man turned god. Feuding states with loads of bullshit.
>bretonnia
French high middle age humans. Massive class disparity but unified against evil. Gets superhumans by questing for the holy grail
>Dwarfs
Eternally vengeful jews that write down every single wrongdoing against their race. Advanced but stuck in the past.
>Greenskins
Rowdy and warlike orcs, devious and cruel goblins, and disciplined but angry black orcs band together from feral tribes to make full warbands that loot for fun and their twin gods. Magic is powered by belief rather than the winds
>Warriors of Chaos
Cultists and devotees of the dark gods usually pulled the brutal northern wastes. Sealed in heavy armor their souls are owned by their evil patron they rage south to end all civilization.
>Vampire Counts
Collection of vampires and necromancers ruling over vast collections of the unliving and ferocious beasts living in cursed lands.
>Beastmen
Half-animal, half-men mutated by chaos to hate all civilized life and the natural order. Follow their own primal ways and pervert nature.
>Wood Elves
Elves divorced from the main colony following a simpler way of life together with nature spirits. The roam the mystical Athel Loren on the borders of Bretonnia. They defend their kingdom mercilessly and have seasonal wild hunts to cull the beastmen population and kill peasants too close to their lands.
>Skaven
Ratmen underneath the entirety of the old world. They are a dark parody of civilization powered by an unstable, Chaotic ore. Embody the worst of both rats and men.
>High Elves
Arrogant and proud living on not!atlantis. A true paradise, they refuse to use their great magical and martial skill to do anything but defend their trade routes. Deep rivals with dwarfs b/c a past war.
>Dark Elves
Cruel slavers driven from paradise to frozen wastes after an attempt on the throne. Spiky meritocracy. Fights chaos

Warhammer Fantasy has some ridiculous hotties.

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Most attractive western elves ever too. Kinda funny considering how purposefully ugly everybody is in 40k though.

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Can someone give me tips to beat the dwarves playing as the empire? I need their iron to start making war machines and stuff but I just cant seem to win a siege against them.

get atila or rome 2 instead

these all look like the same dude

The most boring campaign gameplay in the series

Warhammer is the pinnacle of exaggerated fantasy (I mean that in a good way) and because of that you get the most sterotyped version of Fantasy races. In the case of Elves you get beautiful, flamboyant and graceful characters that make them look like Chadeleths.

Don't fight them. Men and dwarfs are oldest friends. Iron is plentiful enough without taking it from them, and they're often the only thing holding back the green tide from rolling through blackfire pass again.

I can agree with that.

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i wish there was a warhammer game that is similar to battle for middle earth 2

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>ruining the age old alliance that's keeping the Old World together

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Mark of Chaos?

Visuals are your bog standard parts. What you really want to keep in mind is a strong CPU and SSD to keep turn/loading times mostly acceptable.

*ahem*
All hail horned rat
Fuck-rut all lesser gods

NURGLE
IS
SMALL
TIME

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>Also the loading times on AI turns is absolutely disgusting on mortal empires, even on an ssd it takes years to process a turn in the late game.

That is dependent on processor speed, not hard drive load times. The benefits of the SSD come in when loading into battles or the campaign map.

Learn to basic computer science.

close but it doesnt seem to have any structure building or resource gathering

Not necessarily. Some of it is pretty standard fair, but some of it isn't. Like only the Elves are standard Tolkeinesque, and even then, they have the whole Athens (HE) vs Sparta (DE) going on. Empire notably averts the issue a lot of fantasy has where the whole world is frozen at a certain tech and societal level. They're in an early renaissance. Tomb Kings are notable for being liches who aren't that evil, just ruthless and uncaring. There's a lot about Warhammer that is very uniquely Warhammer.

this is pretty late but future save

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Which factions have more of the unique playstyles?

Skaven, Vampirates, Norsca, Bretonnia, and Skarsnik's Goblins

Hey dm me your deets hottie, let's hook up, I swear it'll be great ;)

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>they just want you to have immortality
They're literally trying to end the entire fucking universe. That's the exact opposite of immortality.

Is it okay if I bring some friends?

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1-800-B0NE

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Out of spite too. Like their leaders know that it'll result in their own souls getting condemned to hell with everyone else when the Chaos gods eat everything, but they don't care. To them, their eternal torment is worth your's.

I understand gobbos, bretonnia and skaven but whats ao interesting about norsca and vampirates?

Except they're not. Chaos needs life in the universe in order to exist. Without the emotions that cater to what they are they have no essence. It's what fuels them.

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fantasy orcs are shit compared to 40k orks. without dakka they're just generic green niggers.

Will there be bloodrum

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>Lizardmen
First race of the old gods who made most of the 'good' races. Biological caste system ruled over by super magic toads that are mostly asleep. Tremendous fighters against chaos, completely cleared south america of chaotic filth.
>Tomb Kings
Egyptians with a love for the afterlife denied it by the first necromancer. The entire place is a desert wasteland with the old warriors and princes and kings risen back to unlife forced into compliance by the greatest King. Vengefully hunt down every stolen relic and treasure. One of the most neutral factions as you can come up with any excuse for any random prince to do something.
>Ogres
The other neutral faction. On the other side of the contient spanning mountain range is the darklands: an evil land of orcs and sorcerers free from the watchful eyes of good men. On the other side of that is another large mountain range. Ogres are there and share it with chaos dwarfs.
Ogres are voracious giants. They are driven by greed and hunger. They were the last created by the Old Ones and are half formed, lacking intelligence but possess terrible strength, stomachs strong enough to dissolve stone, and pride fit to drive them across the world. They are divided and slow to breed but a tremendous force for whoever feeds them most.
>Chaos Dwarfs
Ancient dwarfs launched an expedition to the darklands to settle but then chaos came and wreck everything. They abandoned their Ancestor gods and turned to a minor chaos power for survival and are now horrid slavers but more amazing smiths than their good brothers.
All the rest are factions either more minor or removed from the main events than these so are only worth going over if you find a particular attraction to them.

take your trash grimdark setting back to your trash board t b h

>Norsca
Self explanatory. You consolidate Norsca then instead of just conquering stuff like you normally would, you go around the world raiding.
>Vampirates
Actually the same thing really. Difference is you're more sea based and undead instead of chaos.

What minor faction will they add to the third game? Araby or Nippon?

It costs much more than other games because you'll need all of the DLC and the first game.

It's also well worth it. The game is fun on its own before you get burnt out on the total war formula.

However, the game is STUPID amounts of fun for a really long time if you like Warhammer fantasy and play role playing campaigns in Mortal Empries where you act like your chosen Lord/faction would act regardless of the circumstances, consequences, or inefficiency of army composition. Like, Malekith campaigns are boring. Malekith campaigns where you fucking strike out at Ulthuan in every way, shape and form before you even stabilize Naggaroth are riding fucking lighting amounts of fun.

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Neither.

Nippon is about as likely as Amazons or Pygmys. Araby is basically confirmed already, DoW/TEB cucks eternally on suicide watch.

>they're often the only thing holding back the green tide from rolling through blackfire pass again
In lore yeah but in game, post nerf, they're fucking shit at even competing in the Badlands bowl. They refuse the pillars of grugni and confederate barak varr then get their shit pushed in from there because they get fuckall effective armies and no income.

Vampire coast undead are just so much better. Like they don't seem to be as mindless and boring as a regular ass zombie.

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That is literally the in-game model. If yours looks different its because your settings are turned down.

It's fun.
The mortal empires (where both games are combined) gets real tedious after a while due waiting between turns.

So it sounds like chaos daemons are the main villains but what about the undead? Are the undead allied with chaos or are they fighting it?

probably one of the best fantasy strategy games ever made, not exaggerating

if you enjoy total war and you enjoy warhammer fantasy, this is a game that you will come back to again and again for hundreds if not thousands of hours

Undead are your lawful evil guys. All they want is power and immortality. They hate everyone but themselves.

Because they aren't regular ass zombies. The vampires of the vampire coast use better magic to make better zombies. That is what you get when you are lead by Luthor fucking Harkon and not Mannfred Von Carstein.

The different flavors of undead want different things.

Tomb kings want to rule their kingdom, kick all the younger races off their lawn, and occasionally fight Nagash

Nagash wants to become the god of death

Vampire counts generally want to eat folk and subjugate the empire

Vampire pirates are just pirates.

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Shameless cash grab: The game.2

Zombie pirate is a simple enough concept but it just works.

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Norsca fortifies norsca then goes raiding around the world taking the occasional safe harbor rather than painting the map. Battlewise they get loads of monsters and surprisingly efficient infantry with shortrange, AP missiles.
Vampirates get the most unique set of starts in the game, they also get to raid but instead can found coves to leech off of the settlement and prepare for future raiding. Battlewise they have some good tarpit and a fuckload of guns and alright monsters. Like actual fuckload of guns. Full armies of ranged units and its actually intended.

Oh yeah BB, bring every1, s'all good. We got errythang you want, mmk? Just march out into the desert for about a day or two hun so we can get our freak on in private (・ω

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Something is wrong with me, but all I play is dwarves. Forever. Since the first game. Just dwarves.

I really enjoy KILLING the other new races, but only as dwarves. I have 900 hours in the series, only as dwarves and one time (never again) as the empire.

Actually, best strat is to cove everything, especially the capitals. Also, if Harkon try to take Mexico and Galleon's Graveyard after securing the coast because those places will make bank for you. You can seriously fund 3-4 high tier armies off of those regions alone.

Empire good and has objectively the best roster
High Elves "good", but have a stick up their ass and won't help
Dwarves good, but carry grudges to the point of absurdity
Lizardmen good AND THEY HAVE A PLAN
Tomb Kings based
Araby good, but NEVER EVER
Bretonnia good but squatted and unnecessarily grimdark in lore

Orcs bad, and not really quite as funny or based as the 40k Orks
Beastmen a shit
Norsca a shit
Chaos Warriors a shit
Dark Elves a super diarrhea shit
Skaven based
Vampire Counts are fun to play, but not really fun to be unless you're an edgelord

I think that's everyone.

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based but also cringepilled, you should be playing skaven instead

I have 600 hours in WH2 and I have only played as skaven

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Based and grudgepilled.

I like you.

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Dawi weak and bluepilled.

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1d4chan.org/wiki/Nagash

In the most recent co op campaign I started after the amethyst update they had actually won quite a few battles. They still didnt own the silver road province but owned the entire barak varr province and had apparently won quite a few battles against all the green armies there. The dawi south of sylvania were still alive and even the bloody spearz only owned gunbad. This is around turn 100, but the point is men should not be fighting dwarfs, there are plenty of other targets for an empire start.

They do need life in the universe in order to exist, but you presume they value existing above everything else, but it's confirmed that they don't. The canon is that they succeed in destroying the universe.

Cousin Okri smiles upon you friend

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Counts and Nagash are a bunch of cunts, that's why. Their necromantic rituals are meant to remove all sentience and individuality. Coasts and Kings also have a problem with going crazy or losing your sentience, but it's not purposeful.

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What the hell? Did the Counts get even more content since I last played? When are the other factions going to even get half of their shit?

someone post the image of the book of grudges on top of a bookshelf and the dwarf staring at it with impotent rage

Thoughts on SFO? My buddy likes it but it just seems slower paced for no reason, though it makes chaos cooler.

RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG

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GENOCIDE ANY AND ALL ELVES
SPARE NOT A SINGLE ELF
GOOD GOD FUCK SHIT ASSFUCKCOFFEE I HATE ELVES SO GOD DAMN MUCH
ELF GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

>Empire
Good: All-rounders, can fight multiple styles (infantry blobs, cavalry charges, shooty)
Bad: Got powercreeped to hell and back, Lords aren't as good as the newer ones, no monster units

>Bretonnia
Good: One of the best cavalry units in the game from top to bottom
Bad: One trick pony, everything else is shit

>Dwarfs
Good: Defensive infantry and artillery focused faction and they're good enough thanks to higher leadership
Bad: No cavalry means they get flanked and kited easily, they struggle against any unit that has the anti-infantry trait (they have nobody with this trait), outside of Slayers they're also slower than the rest, no monsters

>Greenskins
Good: WAAAGH
Bad: WAAAGH, goblins

>Vampire Counts
Good: Magic and monster heavy faction, can taint lands in the campaign that will fuck over enemy armies and their infantry, monsters and cavalry are extremely good
Bad: No missile units or artillery

>Warriors of Chaos
Good: Heavy infantry and monster focused faction, they can also taint lands in the campaign etc
Bad: No missile units, their lone artillery unit doesn't really belong to their faction and they easily get shredded by armor piercing units, the third game will likely fix them and add God-specific daemons

>Beastmen
Good: Shit
Bad: Shit

>Wood Elves
Good: Really good ranged units
Bad: Lords are awful, in the campaign you're fucked whether you pick the elves or the tree-kin, no artillery, most of your units are unarmored and unshielded meaning they will easily get slaughtered in infantry blobs and their cavalry is laughable

>Norsca
Good: essentially the same as Chaos, war mammoths
Bad: no missile units or artillery, cavalry is dogshit, anti-large units are dogshit

t. buttmad manlet

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Did they seriously remove tomb kings from AoS? That’s such a scumbag decision.

Ah, Dawi from another hold arrive!

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Counts had a ton of new content added. They can even field human units via a special resource, giving them access to guns and cannons in campaign.

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If the last time you played was vampire coast update then you probably shouldnt read about the prophet and the warlock update.

The undead are not sided with Chaos and the Undead aren't a single faction either.
To understand the Undead you have to know about Nagash. Nagash was a super powerful evil Necromancer that turned all of Nehekhara (Warhammer's Egypt) into an undead wasteland. He created the Tomb Kings as a result, and they fucking hate him for it. The pharaohs were told they would have perfect golden bodies in the afterlife, but now they are stuck with rotted skeletal corpses in an endless desert.
Neferata, an ancient Nehekharan, studied Nagash's work and tried to recreate his elixir of life to give her eternal youth. She fucked it up and became the first vampire instead. Then she created more vampires. The Tomb Kings hate the Vampire as a result.
The Vampire Counts are their own faction. They are a collection of Vampires, the two most famous being Vlad and Mannfred Von Carstein. They want to rule the Empire. No one likes them.
The Vampire Coast are, again, their own faction. Though even they aren't a true faction since each major player is out for themselves. The most famous is Luthor Harkon, the pirate king. He just wants power. He doesn't follow the Vampire Counts.
Nagash himself is another faction. He has his loyal followers, which include Neferata and Arkhan the Black. In the End Times he brings all the Undead together to fight against Chaos, but not before getting rid of the leader of the Tomb Kings (Settra) and kicking Mannfred out for being a spineless douchebag.
Nagash hates chaos because HE wants to rule the world, and he wants everyone to be undead.

>High Elves
Good: All-rounders except unlike the Empire they're much stronger and have dragons
Bad: All their best units are expensive to field and in the campaign it takes ages to recruit them since they're locked to final tier buildings, your enemies will already be fielding their best tier units while you're still stuck with the same spearmen, archer, Silver Helms and White Lions

>Dark Elves
Good: Almost every unit has an anti-infantry/anti-large trait which makes killing easier, Murderous Prowess, they're essentially a more specialized version of the High Elves
Bad: Their ranged units have shit range, their cavalry is mediocre

>Lizardmen
Good: Heavy infantry and monster focused faction, dinosaurs will fuck you up
Bad: Skinks are awful, Primal Instincts will easily fuck over formations, Saurus units get shredded by anti-infantry units

>Skaven
Good: best artillery in the game, all their units are decent enough for their job and are extremely cheap to field
Bad: low leadership, no cavalry

>Tomb Kings
Good: WE
Bad: WUZ

>Vampire Coast
Good: Shooty and monster focused faction
Bad: their infantry is shit, Depth Guard have low unit counts, a step below their Vampire Counts cousins when it comes to magic

Tomb Kings got killed off in End Times, dude. They weren't removed from AoS because they were never in AoS to begin with, although there are "hints" (read: GW covering their ass and getting your hopes up) of an Egyptian themed faction, but at this point it's Nippon: Tomb King edition in terms of never ever.

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I don't mind that, I just wish other factions got that amount of love.

Vampire Counts update was a while ago by now. It was their faction update, same as Dwarfs got the forge before that and someday everyone else will. Slowly. Most recent one was Brets, with the lizard/rat lord pack.

Pretty good rundown. However, Tomb Kings are the best bronze age army in any total war game (outside of the Egyptians in Rome 1)

It's fun. Empire and Dwarves are really good in it, since they get unique units if they hold certain regions. Empire in particular gets a new mechanic based upon territorial integrity (the higher it is, the better your relations with other counts and the better your economy/military) and managing the other counts through events. Harder to cheese, and the AI is less schizo. Like you'll actually see huge empires (Clan Rictus actually managed to confederate the other Skaven and take over half the world in one of my campaigns) Newer factions, like Vampirates, have nearly vanilla rosters and mechanics though.

>their cavalry is laughable
Just wrong. Wild riders are the saving grace of WElves. Cheap but efficient spearmanii, loads of efficient arrows and strong anti-infantry cav

Bruh, its AoS. The whole idea is a scumbag decision.
"Lets take this world full of decades of interesting lore, geography, political intrigue, and amazing characters and blow it all up and replace it with a bland, empty world with no actual discernible geography, politics, or lore, and all the best characters are the ones we took from the setting we just destroyed. Then lets add space marines, because it wasn't enough to push the Ultramarines so hard that its killing 40K. We need to do the same with Fantasy."

Did someone say spearmanii?

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>ruins the greatest and most powerful human empire the world has ever seen

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I can't remember of Wild Riders have armor piercing but I don't think they do. Sure they're the best skirmish cav in the game but they're definitely not heavy cav

And then later he becomes the God of Death. There's no fucking justice in this world.

Wild Riders are the best simply because prancing murder-deer are hilarious.

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Reading the Rise of Nagash trilogy made me sad. All that Alcadizaar only to have his entire kingdom destroyed by some skaven making the water spicy

Goblin armies are way better than orc armies.

>Beastmen
>Good: Shit
>Bad: Shit
t. Boring Todbringer
Bring some more Tods next time m8, maybe some will have depth perception
get fucking rekt
poo poo pee pee all day erryday

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I like how even the Elves and Dwarves respected Nehekhara and saw it as an equal, until the whole Nagash stuff happened.

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>Norsca
>anti-large units are dogshit
Is this a troll post or something?

It may sound bad with how much love CA gives to the vampires, but I still lament how heavy they went of Von Carstein shit. Don't get me wrong, I love Vlad and all, but it would hve been much more rounded if Zacharias had been added instead of him.

I'm just a sucker for the bloodlines like that, and I did't like how even the tabletop game went full Von Carstein and the rest can get fucked

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boner, do they fug?

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Counts are obviously their favorite faction in TWW 1. I think Skaven is the favorite for TWW 2 though.

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It reads like something you'd see on reddit.

Git fucking dabbed on humans
Cant stop won't stop

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kek

No.

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Which is funny, because Skaven are trash in battle. Their entire gimmick is hampered by the 20 unit cap.

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>Skaven are trash in battle.
t. How to spot someone who is just trash at the game.

It appears our superiority has led to some controversy

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not since the prophet & the warlock

Hey, I've never actually played Skaven yet in II. Just Lizardmen and High Elves.

Yeah they should give them like 25. And be able to summon them like 2 at a time with menace below.

Does your mother know you're shitposting, Malekith? Malekith is easily one of my favorite villains in Warhammer and what End TImes did with him was fucking obscene.

And this reads like something someone from reddit would say to try and fit in on Yea Forums.

Truly /ourguys/

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check workshop, there's faction unlockers and shit that allow you to play brets outside of bretonnia, you can always go on crusades using unmodded but you kinda have to deal with local bullshit first and leave an at home team.

Really, the unit cap needs rework in general. It makes no sense that artillery and monsters take up the same slot as over 100 men.

Both tomb Kings and wood elves are hard core neutral in that they are the epitome of "get offa my lawn you kids" races, one for the desert, the other for forests.

Lore wise,tomb Kings are also fascinating as they have cities filled with living people guarded by loyal, honorable, undead skeletons.

Mommy Morathi is better.

You get a slave stack and an artillery/elite stack. Also, don't worry about friendly fire. Slaves are far cheaper than whatever they got, and don't hurt the Leadership of your other units when they rout.

>Says skaven are trash in battle
>Admits to never having played Skaven
Are you just retarded then?

>still no Araby
Any news?

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yeah this is gonna be a based from me

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I've never lost against them.

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Some artillery kills more than 100 men though. It should just be a race thing.

Shallow, trash game.

Only reason it's talked about here is /pol/hammer.

CA is too busy rolling around in the money from 3K

you just know

she has those zombies do somethings to her

Breaking news here user. All Araby sand is rightful Bretonnian clay.

Against the AI?

I think artillery should be treated differently than the regular army. Have its own defending units too, so you're not further wasting unit cards of the main army babysitting them.

Yeah, Amazons are the next DLC, Oct 12, 2019

CA went full faggot and decided to give us less factions than the first game. Guess they gave up after their colossal fuckups with the post release content, and it's not like they're hungering for extra cash with 3chinks being so succesful.

Should I be excited for Chaos dwarfs and ogre kingdoms? They sound boring as fuck.

Skaven really should have more soldiers per regiment.

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what happened to him in end times?

If you really want the crusade feel then you should start as a regular Bretonnia faction and confederate the crusader factions with the revamped Bretonnia tech tree. Then you have the money and population back home in the relatively safe Bretonnia to support actual crusades out of the far off strongholds you just incorporated.

make about a stack of about 10 mortars and 5 cannons, unload every shred of ammo before sending in a second stack with greatswords to mop of whats not currently wall paint.

Is game 3 going to be the End Times?

Game 1 was end times, though.

Ogre kingdoms have some of the coolest looking monsters in the game.
Ogres are my 2nd favorite faction.

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>When are the other factions going to even get half of their shit?
Empire are just missing Empire archers (redundant), master engineer (hero unit) and the Marienburg Landship
Bretonnia are missing all their foot knights, ballista, crossbowmen and Robin Hood archers
Greenskins are missing a bunch of goblin and Orkz from older army books, there's too many of them
High Elves are missing their flying chariot, they also have a low-tier sword unit that got culled a decade ago along with a dual-sword counterpart , they're also missing flying cavalry similar to the vein of Bretonnian pegasus knights
Dark Elves are missing certain units but they're mostly redundant compared to what they have now, they had a bunch of chariots and Bleakswords with dual swords
Dwarfs are missing Josef Bugman and that one master engineer hero
Skaven are still missing some units although the latest DLC have essentially shortened that list to a handful minor units
Chaos are missing faction-specific daemons although they're saving it for the third game

There's no saving the rest of the factions since they're mostly if not 100% complete

It's End Times. Something retarded happened probably.

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Yup, just a retard then. The AI are trash. The skaven are not. They are one of the most broken factions in the game after their last DLC, but the AI cannot take advantage of that.

>Ghorgon and jabberslythe didn’t get added to beastmen

Fucking garbage.

They pulled some bullshit out of their asses to say that he was actually the Pheonix King all along, thus justifying all his bullshit.

You can leave anytime you want to faggot, and take your shit "humor" back with you.

Not really. It was just a chaos invasion. Chaos invasions happen throughout Warhammer history. There's been several Everchosen before Archaon

All evidence leads to game three being focused on the Chaos Gods and Endtimes

1d4chan.org/wiki/Malekith#The_End_Times_A.K.A._Present

Warhammer 1 had 4 playable factions at launch. Warhammer 2 had 4 playable factions at launch.
You are an idiot.

Big hats and big bellies.

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>Skaven are underpowered

youtu.be/aB5qHSlTENk

I am totally against Chaos Daemons being their own faction. It flat out doesn't work in Total War mechanics. Better to give Chaos Warriors the ability to specialize their worship of the Chaos Gods. And if you disagree with me, then what exactly should the Chaos Daemons start out as? A horde faction of cultists?

we should do a co-op campaign ill be empire

This, beastmen need a rework and units.

>be from reddit
>Tell others to go back
Why do you project so much?

>>>/aosg/

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Beastmen should never have been added to begin with.

False, beastmen are best boys and my favorite faction even without all the new shit.

Go to bed Tod.

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You’re a fucking moron if you think Chaos Daemons aren’t going to be their own faction.

The old Russian leak claims that WoC will be one faction "split into 4 Chaos gods"

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Beastmen are failed Skaven. Prove me wrong.

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An idea I had was that instead of just arbitrary numbers, caps should work in percentags. Empire swordsmen take up 5%, Skavensalves 1%, Elf Cavalry 15%, something like that.

I'm torn between getting this or the new Doom. I really dug the first TW:W but never got around to the second one, and Doom looks to be a good deal at the current sale. Any anons have suggestions?

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Warriors of Chaos are going to be separate from Chaos Daemons.

>they're literally making up Kislev to showcase them as the good guy faction for WH3
(lol

False. Skaven don't rape people with massive horse cocks. Skaven are inferior beastmen.

Ratmen have bigger cock than horse.

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Beastmen are a much more interesting faction.

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t. chaosfag

DooM is short and sweet.
TWW is a slowburn.

Good deal is nice and all but if you already enjoyed the first a lot you're bound to get a ton of enjoyable time out of the second.

Doom 2016 is a much better buy.

Doom is great. Warhammer 2 is great. If you liked WH1 you will like WH2 even more and get access to all the races you had in WH1.
I'd get WH2, but I don't think getting Doom is a bad idea either.

reminder that Chadbringer killed Khazrak in a 1v1

Not only do they not have bigger dicks, but its not just about size. Its about shape as well. Ratmen don't have horsecocks. Truly the S tier of cocks.

Do you have an experience with this? It seems so.

I was talking about the final count by the end of the cycle, in response to the Arabyfag suffering. WH1 ended up with 9 races, one given for free, where WH2 has 6 and already confirmed that no more are coming.

To their credit, WH2 gives every race a well rounded 4 LLs, which is nice, but nowhere near an equivalent in terms of content. The promise of extra lord packs isn't really exciting either, just the possibility of making the Lustria Bowl even more of a nightmare.

How short is the new Doom? I usually play games in short bits and I feel that doesn't mesh well with the classic arcade shooty style. I could get both, but Tomb Kings are my absolute favorite faction in the tabletop and it would feel wrong getting TW:W2 without them. Conversely, getting both would be generally over what I had budgeted. Is it worth it?

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CA is literally jewish

They held back Dogs of War and Araby for the 3rd game

Since they're swimming in Winnie the Pooh yuan right now they're going to beg Games Workshop to give them access to Cathay as well

You forgot the part where they made all the trash races from the first game not trash.

Sorry mate, Araby isn't going to be in 3 either.

Left to Right
>Paskrit the Vast, Warlord of All Skavendom
>Likely Warlord Kratch Doomclaw of Rictus (since he's arguing with Gnawdwell0
>Unknown
>Vrisk Ironscratch of Skurvy
>Nightlord Sneek of Eshin
>Lord Morskittar of Skryre
>Horned Rat
>Warlord Gnawdwell of Mors
>Arch-Plaguelord Nurglitch of Pestilens
>Seer Lord Kritislik
>likely Warlord Griznekt Mancarver of Skab
>Lord Verminkin of Moulder (looks the least rat)
>Unknown

woops for

>hating on the glorious lustriabowl
It's peak magnificence.

I can't speak for Doom because it's still on my "someday" list and I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually but TK are great. Slow burn thanks to their campaign mechanics but the glory of Settra doesn't come without the grinding down of tens of thousands of skellies.

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Why the fuck do you think they held back Dogs of War and Araby for the 3rd game when the map for the 3rd game won't even include Araby? In addition, Dogs of War were literally just regiments of renown. No one gave a shit about them as a "faction" until some idiot started crying that they weren't in the game. No one from table top ever gave a shit about them either in the game or the lore.
Araby had even LESS content than that.

About 10-14 hours on your first time through. Granted, those hours are fucking amazing, but it'll leave you wanting more. Well worth the current pricetag though.

from what i've heard theirs not going to be any more race packs for tw2, just lord packs, Araby and Dogs probably won't happen in 3. i think dogs are available as a mod. or used to be the mod kit ca supplied being limiting as it is screws over alot.

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>Lustria Bowl even more of a nightmare
Gor-rok or Nakai would start outside of lustria, likely on albion. Moulder would start in hellpit or in somewhere up north. I can't think of any lord that would start in lustria on either map that couldn't be shoved into the southlands or an already existing settlement/faction.

Semi-related but I really wish they made a Bloodbowl 2 but with a real time aspect instead of using the tabletop ruleset. If executed properly it would be absolutely amazing. Like a Madden but with Warhammer races.

Friendly reminder that serving your dad has no negative side effects.

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If my computer was only able to run TW:W1 on medium, will it still be ok for the second one? Thats kind of the only thing holding me back.

BLOOD TO THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS TO THE SKULLS THRONE!

Why does everyone forgets about Thanquol? he should be a lord pack too

BB3 is being released next year using the new tabletop ruleset they are releasing along with it. Maybe you'll get lucky there?

Campaign map will likely run a bit worse. Battles shouldn't be too much different unless you're fighting large Skaven/Tomb Kings armies maybe.

>Like a Madden but with Warhammer races.
Chaos wins every time ogres don't because being able to just ram right through a line of elves works too fucking well when you don't have turn based risk management where the ball carrier can't just bowl over dudes and keep running.
Bloodbowl works because of the limitations of turns and movement. Take that away and you will never see an agi team again since bloodbowl has no reservations about literally killing the receiver before the pass has even left the QB.

Aw shit Blood Bowl 3? I'm excited.
But I'd imagine they'd still balance it. Agility teams would just dodge everything. Also wasn't there a real time mod in bloodbowl 1?

Reminder Araby will never happen because it's "racist" and GW "regrets ever adding it".

Why do you think people forget about Thanquol? He is the most written about Skaven.

Don't mind me, just the most fun faction to play as.

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because everyone talks about Throt instead of Thanquol, seems like people would rather get reskinned rat ogres instead of the most important skaven character

If Disney can still get away with Aladdin then Araby shouldn't be an issue.

Reminder that Araby will never happen because it never happened in the first place. Araby's sum total of lore could be fit on a single page. It had no actual units. It was never playable on tabletop. It has nothing to pull from.
CA would have to literally create the faction entirely from scratch.
Araby isn't happening. Not because its racist, but because its a bunch of work for something only a few loud idiots want.

Disney is an American company, GW is British. Completely different standards on what is racist and what isn't.

Araby had an armybook though.

really good now that mortal empires is out and fleshed out, wasn't very good on release.

aaaaaaaaaa I really wish I could play this but I refuse to install any game with denuvo and my toaster probably can't run it anyway

If you use Google, you already have denuvo installed.

BIG VEINY VAMPS

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No it didn't. The only army books for Araby are fan made.

That's false. They had a list in Warmaster: Armies.

No, that's a model sculpted in whatever modeling suite CA uses, which is then imported into the engine. Even the highest visual setting is still lower quality than that.

>tfw can never git gud at Total War
>even struggle as lizardmen of all races

So what was it that the age of sigmar made it so bad?

>NO ARMY LIST
warmasterdownunder.blogspot.com/2009/09/warmaster-armies-araby.html
>DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE... UHH... UHHH... IT'S NON-CANON, JUST LIKE DOGS OF WAR

I block everything from jewgle except for captcha to post

It was too hard of a reboot. What they did with Fall of Cadia is far more sensible.

>They had an army book!
>No they didn't
>Yeah they did, it was a couple units listed in this thing that wasn't an army book
Just admit you don't know what you are talking about.

Fuck you and I want my genies

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The secret sauce is sacrifice.

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Araby would be a nice flavor faction thought. CA should just put all the flavor human factions together into one big free bundle, like kislev and araby along with the dogs of war, gives those theaters a bit of variety without having to add full factions into the game.

>Warmaster

>free bundle
>for all that hard work

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>DOESN'T COUNT FOR NO REASON

End Times doesn't actually happen in Total Warhams, although you are correct that the Chaos Gods are self-destructive entities.

Actually, that's false. In Age of Sigmar it's shown that Chaos is actually far more creative than destructive.

Is Archaon pro-chaos or like Abaddon, who treats it like a tool and keeps it at arms length?

Abaddon is pro-chaos, though.

that's fucking retarded

they did it with bretonia. Wouldn't be too much a pain in the ass to throw in a hand full of units for each of them, retexture the rest and then add them all in together along with bretonian and imperial units as a mercenary faction. They already do custom skins for those marauding armies.

>Using stuff from a completely different game with completely different rules to claim a faction has a full army book for Warhammer.
Its like you people don't even know what words mean.

>DOESN'T COUNT FOR NO REASON

>post pro aos trash
>get told to fuck off
>tells them to go to /aosg/
Feels good not having brain damage.

Archaon is just salty that Sigmar didn't come down from the heavens and tell him he's special so he's trying to end everything.

AoS is great, you just got old and can't move on.

trust me, you don't want him now, with how much 3 chinkdoms sold, they decided to focus all their resources into it, their PR mascot said so much along some buzzwords, so take for granted that the next lord packs will be the lowest effort of them all, no doubt about it

Do you think everyone else in this thread is just one person? I thought you said you DON'T have brain damage?

Racism is not allowed on Yea Forums.

oh, I can see why. Everybody fucking dies but a part of me liked the way sigmar came back and saved the day but I grew too attached to Karl and i'm pretty sad he's dead.

>Reminder that Araby will never happen
And that's a good thing.

>Its no reason because I said its no reason! Now watch me grasp at more straws to justify wanting stuff from a completely different game in warhammer!

So you're just a dumb nigger incapable of following replies and construe my post as somehow being pro-aos despite it not in any way?

Warhammer is Warhammer. Total Warhammer is not a 1:1 recreation of the tabletop, you mongrel.

Try gobbos, and make 20 heroes to assassinate, sack, and harass the enemy with.

You are right. Warhammer is Warhammer. WarMASTER is not Warhammer though.
Try again.

You definitely have brain damage.

So are they splitting up chaos daemons into four factions?

Say it with me

SKAVEN ARE THE BEST-GREATEST FACTION

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Probably 1 faction with 4 different flavors.

Only good rat is a dead rat.

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pirate it because the prices and amount of DLC is fucking train simulator tier

did they ever release a smaller pvp oriented campaign map? Like just a couple dozen settlements, assorted interesting locations, and so on, designed so that players could play mini civ matches?

>Currently >$10 for a whole new faction with 4 leaders and new mechanics
>Complaining about the price
Lol

They certainly are the best.
The best at getting exterminated like vermin.

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*AHEM*

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What happened to tomb kings? Why did they get wiped out?

Don't mind me, just posting best Lord.

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Is he hiding behind that reprehensible little green creature?

Lizardmen are shit, they get nerfed every patch

Because Nagash and Skaven happened.

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Chose one and only one
>schemin
>sneakin
>stabbin
>bein betta dan dem
>all of the above

>Dwarves are more technologically advanced than all the other factions but their focus on fueds and the past hold them back
POTTERY

I'm so confused. So Nagash is this really powerful guy who created the Vampire Counts and Tomb kings?

He was the first necromancer and the most powerful sorcerer the world had ever seen. Him and the chaos gods constantly jockey for main villain position in Warhammer.

It's fun if you jam pack it with mods.

IDK who optimised it but they fucked up big time though. It somehow looks worse than Warhammer I but runs like shit.

I'm having trouble finding mods in Steam Workshop

Is there a mod for unlimited RoR for player only? The ones I've seen are for both player and AI

LUV BEER
LUV SHEKELS
'ATE GREENSKINS
'ATE KNIFE EARS
'ATE VAMPIRES
SIMPLE AS

>not alt-tab friendly
People don't play all the games in borderless window nowadays?

Fantasy orcs aren't fungus people

Not him but i like to watch videos and streams so i have something going during the ridiculous timer and they won't run while the game is in borderless window.

I usually browse Yea Forums between turns, haven't tried videos.

Kroak would like a word with you.
But yeah, Nagash is a solid 2nd

Fucking Skarsnik. What a true legend

Reminder that them stubbornly keeping Denuvo is why an SSD is practically a requirement.

>counts constantly getting more and more content
I hate them so much. Fuck the von fucking carsteins

i could see nippon, if only because Shogun 2 is a thing

this thread is filled with plebs who don't even fuck their own sons

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I prefer a true romance

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The get handgunners and great cannons now, by the way.

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>still can't play based Todbringer without mods
CA are incompetent

>Want to play as Greenskins
>Remember starting right next to the dwarfs
>Want to play as Beastmen
>Remember it's dogshit
>Just play as KANGZ again

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i mean you can confederate him as empire in vanilla
still lazy of them though

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Confederating the Middenlands is basically spitting on Toddy

I always found my hardest starting point was Fey Enchantress (can't attack Brets, and Wood Elves will pwn me), and Arkhan the Black. Others feel cosy by comparison

Muahahahahahahahahahaaha

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There are worse starting positions, for sure, I just don't want to play them
I want to play as a race I really like, not magicwaifu and a fucking Nagash fanboy

>actually caring about age of shitmar

I think skaven are pretty cute

based khemri

Arkhan full Vampire corruption run is top fun

its not-earth with not-the holy roman empire taking center stage, bordering with not-feudal france and a buncha dwarfs. One of their provinces is not-transylvannia.
To the north is not-Russia also known as Kislev, and not-vikings mostly corrupted/serving 4 dark gods.
Beyond the dwarf mountains on their borders you got retarded green not-english hooligans, ogres, goblins, etc Past the green retards are not-egyptian undead skellington mummies
Then there's not-atlantis pre-sinking, where high elves live. their edgy cousins moved to not-north america and their tree hugging cousins live in not-switzerland.
Also there's goodest boys lizards serving the will of the old gods before they got btfo.
Also there's hilariously cowardly rat-men.
magic is divided between different lores, breaking from the traditional elements and instead using things like the lore of metal, beasts, bright(fire), shadows, etc.

youtube.com/watch?v=68BuTbMCrpQ

Why do they add so much good stuff in their DLCs? Which DLCs to buy?

LegendofTotalWar here

tomb kangz

all warhammer 2 stuff is great
alot of the wh1 stuff is meh though

the newest DLC was pirated the day it apeared. I remember someone doing screenshot with it and thanking all paypigs.

Vampire coast was but the prophet and warlock remains uncracked as far as i know.

yeah but I don't want to install denuvo. I heard the gnu/loonix port doesn't have it. does anyone know how well that runs?

tomb kings are definitely top tier

I never played wood elves, but the rest were disappointing.

Based and dare I say it, redpilled.

there basically the go too heavy fire power faction now, between nukes,machine guns, heavy sniper rifles, chemical warfare, and a shit load of warp tech, you can swiss cheese just about anything before it gets within pissing range, the only problem I've had is with cav heavy armies and wide formations. god forbid the crazy fucks at ca give them access to the missing units from clan moulder or verminlords.

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do you get access to these new units if you dont own the DLC, too?

Oh you sweet summer child

you need prophet and warlock too gain access to them and ikitt claw/clan skyre. the free update that came with it lets you build subterranean bases beneath enemy buildings.

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Get an SSD. It's pretty much a requirement if you want to play games pat turn 10.

To all the fags complaining about DLC prices : just buy the game and use creamapi for DLC

cool, thanks

This. I put in 200 hours on an hdd, fucking torture.

is there a mod where you can drop a structure or something on cities you raze? Vampires and rats are annoying me when they swoop in and start building shit.

Literally takes 4 minutes to load between a battle and the campaign map if you have a hdd instead of an SSD.

All the races are just invented so to have an excuse to make armies different so that games workshop can sell more miniatures. They are all asspulls, but fairly good asspulls which is why Warhammer is successful.

>thoughts
The second game should have been 40k

Important note to OP the first game runs a lot better than the second.

>Skavens made every other faction freak out about the eye of the vortex
>With a fucking SPACESHIP
Are the other races even trying?

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to be fair it's less spaceship and more loosely bolted together slab of metal with a thruster and a hunk of warpstone.

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I find skaven to be interesting, but they really have some shit writing surrounding them too. I especially hate the "Skaven lost, but they actually won" scenarios. Or the "Skaven are the worst, but they are the best"

Total War is clearly doing its own thing. It's own storm of chaos I guess.

They announced a while ago we will not get any race packs, just lord packs for existing races.

They are working on warhammer 3

Even more shallow than previous games.

>They sound boring as fuck.

How? Chaos dwarves get constructs and ogres are an entirely monster based infantry

This game goes on sale frequently, you can buy both.

They would have to make unique units and animations for them all.

How did they get away with this kek.

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it was a different time
okay I'm curious too, this is just stupid beyond belief even in its time

Good wood elves are fucking boring and the amber mechanic ruins your ability to create interesting armies.

Better than the challenger.

I know Total War games are typically CPU bound, should a 2600x be good enough to run the recent ones well?

I've never played a 4x game what should I start with? Preferably single player or free to play multiplayer.

how is it stupid?

It's great. Lot's of replayability.

>no one talking about the best unit in the game.
Empire Handgunners absolutely shit on every thing in the game. Sub-humans and disgusting French peasants get absolutely dunked on by superior empire gunpowder. Enemies charging you with a giant Chaos demon? Line up a few of your absolute alpha as fuck handgunners, and watch that faggot magic creature get absolutely deleted in a few volleys.
Also Balthazar Gelt is the best lord and if you disagree you are literally a massive faggot

Empire, Dwarfs or Dark Elves

wat

What army even is this?

>145 range
>weak AP damage
(lol

Darkshards are flat out better

What empire is missing, is a fun fucking campaign mechanic.
Shameful state fore heroes of the setting.

The High Elves

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are you retarded?

High Elves are Aryans.

>469017621
i ask for single player 4x i can start with and you mention tolkien races.

>is a fun fucking campaign mechanic.
???

The only thing that is lacking for WH1 races are different start positions. Other than Von Carsteins there is no reason for other factions to not spawn elsewhere where they are needed.

What thread are you posting in fucktard?
Civ

>undead
>pad out the lore
Was Nagash's entire subplot lost on you?

warhammer 2 is a paid multiplayer game dude

>playing multiplayer

Hey, don't forget Kislev (fantasy medieval Russia) and the Kurgans (fantasy Huns)!

It's pretty good. You dont need to buy the DLC though, the races are ingame already, DLC is only if you want to play as them.
Buy it when you are interested in them, but the main races are good as well already.
Dont mod the first hours.

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Ghorst

Alberic

Sexvald

SOTEK

Based and snakepilled.

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To have him in warhammer 2, I need to buy warhammer 1, his dlc and warhammer 2, correct?

Nagash was WEAK

Empire is also missing some of their Knightly Orders. Many of which will never make it into the game, but I'm hoping order of the white wolf makes it in. Hammer cav is neat.

I'm angry
ANGRY ABOUT GOBLINS

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All you need to know is that the Empire is white socialist europe (Everyone is given equal chance to rise), while Bretonnia is capitalistic anglosphere (99% owned by 1%)

No haet gobs, gobs r cute.

Achually halflings stands the best chance to defeat chaos due almost complete immunity

But they care only about food.

Civilized, human food. Not like ogres who will literally eat their own feces and genocide the noble sky titans

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Lizards are arguably much more resistant to chaos and actively fight it

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The Knightly Orders are tied to Araby

No Araby, no more Knightly Orders

CA is too dumb holding back all of these old units

Lizards are inmune due to their autism, while the point of the Ogres was allowing them all the freedom of the other races without the risk. With lizardmen there's nothing to corrupt

When the fuck is Crysnos fixing the modding scripting framework? Jesus Christ, it's July and he hasn't made a fucking peep!

Yeah, which clearly makes them a better weapon against Chaos, considering how the ogres turned out

Where my tzeentch bros at?

I can play it on ultra with r9 380 4gb and i5 4670k

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>play Dwarfs
>bumrush Greenskins and Border Princes
>take Sartosa
>invade Ulthuan
>land on Yvresse
>their main army is up north
>easily capture their cities and wipe out their main army
>invade Lothern
>Tyrone isn't there, he's in the northwestern part of Ulthuan where a minor Dark Elf faction is
>take all of Lothern and Yvresse
>all the elgi declare war on me
>Tyrone with his stack of rank 9 Star Dragons, rank 5 Swordmasters and rank 8 Lothern Sea Guard instantly wipes out 3 of my stacks

High Elf OP, pls nerf or I write this injustice on my book

OGRES when

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>Dwarfs are the coolest race, the absolute most badass fuckers
>most badass fuckers
No,they just strive to survive while getting mashed from all sides by greenskins and skaven.
Dwarfs are a dying race

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>9 Star Dragons, rank 5 Swordmasters and rank 8 Lothern Sea Guard instantly wipes out 3 of my stacks
Your fault for not using table top caps mod.

BASED
Ogres are /ourguys/
Chaos dwarves are reddits

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Tyrone's army had a Loremaster of Hoeth, 4 Star Dragons, 2 Eagle Claw Bolt throwers, 6 Swordmasters of Hoeth, 3 Silver Helms, 1 Dragon Princes and the rest are Lothern Sea Guard w/shields

His Swordmasters just wiped out entire Longbeards and Hammerers no problem and my Giant Slayer stack gets rekt by 2 Star Dragons and archers

Dorfs for the diamond shekels, high elves for """trade""", skaven for the backstabbing and subverting the local populace

Dwarfs.

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I mean, empire does lack a global mechanic that all other W1 races have. Some special events regarding the state of the empire could be interesting but I can't really think of much else.

>golden gates of Lothern and Kurgrik almost fainted

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>Malekith smiled cheerily
So this was before he got roasted?

Yeah

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Isn't Snorri just Grombrindal?

Grombrindal is a really pissed off Snorri, yes.

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I'm pretty hyped for Game 3.

But CA are probably gonna fuck it up.

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What did the dwarves do when they discovered that they were misled and got rused by Dark Elves?

Dwarves never got confirmation on that whole affair.

Still grudging against assurholes.

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>Kislev
(lol

200 unit handgunners, only 100 have rifles
Bear cavalry
Kislev hussars

Pic related as their mages

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>dying race
>instantly pops 3 full stacks armies, one of them being a beast stack with elite units
>play beastmen
>have to wait an eternity to get back or use 3+ camps

In the end, they knew it was dark elves who caused the incidents, but they didn't care, because the high elf king shaved their messenger and started the war for real.
High elves insulted them far more than dark elves ever did.

Their mages would be ice witches.

They do have an actual tabletop army list, too even if you count Warmaster.

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>Kislev
>Cathay
>Chaos Dorfs
>Estallia
>Dogs of War

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t.Arabyfag

That's it?

Katarin is el goblina

Oh fuck forgot them throw them into the reddit pile too

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shut up

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Pygmies. Unsurprisingly, they were quickly scrapped.

Kislev lore is pretty fun, it's a reverse of what happened to Russia IRL. In WH world those lands were originally populated by Ungols (you can guess who they're supposed to represent) and then got conquered by Gospodars (not-russians) a Kurgan tribe that migrated from the east when most of Kurgans converted to Chaos.

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I AM UPSET!

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>Lesser races
>Forgetting the only real, true good faction

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>>Chaos Dwarfs
>Not the coolest shit
fuck off faggot

>all this lore, lost forever
Thanks Age of Sigmar

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Recommend me a fun race to play while I'm waiting for the Ogre Kingdoms.

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You can squeeze a bit more out of it

>Kerml Guard
>Streltsi (though supposedly only Erengrad can mantain a full regiment of these)
>Warwagon variants
>Classic artilley like cannons, though more expensive
>Priest of Tor (yes Tor)
>Priest of Dazh (for buffs)
>Chekist (In the same way Empire's got Witch Hunters in their armies)
Really pushing it now:
>Hags
>Hawks of Miska

Well, that and that their gods are more autistic than them and don't like letting go of the pas either.
youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE

seethe harder fag
All troll Greenskins/Norsca army

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Seems like I'll do a Throgg playthrough then. Thanks user!

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Not-st.petersburg cannons are supposed to be cheaper, but weaker than proper nulners though.

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So who here likes talking about army idenity and how it works. I think it is a fun exercise that helps you understand how all races work and why some units are good and some units are bad.

>Empire
Generalists with who have a lot of power in their artillery and cavalry
>Bretonnia
Cavalry focused faction
>Dwarfs
Heavy armor infantry protecting strong ranged power, only mobile option is the gyrocopter which cant really be used to hammer and anvil
>Vampire counts
Rush faction that relies on their strong mobile units (such as flying units), and undead attribute to overwhelm the opponent. Their powerfull magic and lords help mitigate the weaknesses of the undead attribute.
>Wood elves
Strong elite army, but that means less troops. Probably has the best missile infantry in the game. Monsters are more of a defensive line then DPS
>Beastmen
Fastest faction in the game, rushes down the opponent to overwhelm them with high DPS and flakning power.
>Norsca
Strong infantry, stonger monsters that can fill many roles, probably the best monsters in the game.
>Chaos
Strong monsters, stronger infantry that can fill many roles, probably the best infantry in the game.

I'll post the game 2 factions in like half an hour.

>dzien dobry
>szlachta
Oh GW... most of this is just Russian or Polish.
Don't forget ice witches.

Post now.

Sisters of Avelorn > Waywatchers

More like Stacies of Averlorn.

I bet you play TF2 every day don't you?

REMOVE RAT

Chaos Dwarfs are fucking rad.
Come game 3 all the doubters will swallow their words.

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cringe

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OY vey -vey
Skaven are really nazi's yes-yes

>Great Cannons

why the fuck you lying

They retconned it a while back