Banjo shouldn't be in Smash

Real talk, why the fuck is Banjo playable? He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise

Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but this ugly bear who has only 5 games, 2 of which weren't even in Japan gets to be playable?

Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this.

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seething redditspacing nigger

Shut the f*ck up

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GUH HUH

But he is in smash.

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Zoomer detected

half the roster for smash is a graveyard for characters you never see anymore.

look at that picture's md5 in the archive if you wanna laugh at this pathetic loser. Literally obsessed.

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Everyone posted banjo wojaks

Why would anyone want to add to that? It'll be as bad as playstation all stars battle royale soon.

Quit making bomberbros look bad

Bomberman will keep getting games, they aren't going to look bad.

I wanted Bomberman in too and it hurt when he was revealed as an assist trophy but Banjo is in and you can't change that

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Because he defined Nintendo during it's N64 days more than Bomberman ever did...

...while Banjo Kazooie may de facto belong to Microsoft, in the minds of most it is still a Nintendo franchise.

So what’s the name for Bombermanfag?

bomberman kun, i guess. makes bombermanfans look like shit, but its good enough. guy's fucking autistic.

Bomberman is 15 years older than Banjo retard

Banjo did compared to Bomberman you zoomer retard, omberman was one of the games that revolutionized 4-8 player co-op gaming in consoles, back then, it was phenomenal as only 2 players could play on console before it became a stable. Also Hi-ten Bomberman was one of the first HD games ever made back in 1993 and he was the first third-party to crossover with another Nintendo property.

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Imagine being this much of a zoomer, neck yourself

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correct.

"I just finished school and grade number eight,
So let's head to Yea Forums and start posting bait!"
You sure think you're clever, but you only cause groans.
Only children enjoy posting Wojaks from phones!

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Literally no one has ever played a Bomberman game, ever.

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Go back to your Discord already, retard. You do know people can see your old posts in the archive, right? You're a fucking loser.

gay.

Who the fuck is this falseflagger who has been pretending to be a Bomberman fan since Banjo was revealed? Yea Forums can do a lot of things, any way to dox him? Yea Forums?

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Le whoom’st boom’st zoom’st doom’st yoom’st wojak bojak lojak cojak slowjak grugjak brugjak mugjak hugjak

> He says this when R has sold millions

He false flagged as an Isaacfag before, now he's using Bomberman. Imagine being this autistic.

>troll face is good
Are you legion?

Quality>quantity. Banjo 1 and 2 are better than 69 of those bomberman games.

Because they are getting nothing else, no remaster/remake, no new game, no port. It's funny how people though there was going to be a new game though but I didn't believe it.

> No argument
Nice to ignore eveyrthing in that post dumb Banjofag, just admit your shitty bear was a mistake

anti-gay

Stevie Stevie...

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You are no Bomberman supporter. Any Bomberman supporter would know full well that you can't simply parade his iconic status as a "get into Smash free" card, especially if there are a ton of franchises that have been more prolific than Bomberman ever has. In fact, most Bomberman supporters have either dropped out of the roster race or began to support other characters, Banjo included.
Stupid fucking falseflagger.

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>Banjo was a mistake because muh deflection
See

> He false flagged as an Isaacfag before
Source or fuck off

I'll hazard to say this Gruntyposter is based,
anyone who thinks otherwise surely eats paste!

he has some strange vendetta against banjo, and likes using other popular characters against him. he's probably underage.

being in smash is no honor, it's a dumbed down game with shit eating fans, if I ever had an ip I wouldn't want it to be in smash.

I accept your concession

Bomberman is the new Steve discord narrative for some reason

Imagine being this obsessed over a dead bear and shitting on actual deserving characters.

Fake Bomberman fans like you are a scum of the community.

its literally one little kid

Bomberman is more prolific than banjo.

True

bomberman hero alone is better than kazooie and tooie.

and yet still isn't as popular

Bomberman is more popular

Based on what? certainly not sales. Some gay smash poll?

Wut? Literally everyone has seen the character at least once.

Real talk: What does Bomberman offer in terms of moveset that isn't just placing bombs down

By that logic, BK should have been on SSBU since launch day

You see this? You see this right here?

This is exactly why lifetime series sales are a dishonest metric that dont mean anything

Banjo-Kazooie came in, made a huge splash (Banjo-Kazooie sold more on a Nintendo platformer than most of the guest characters in Smash have managed), had Nintendo ready to treat it as one of their own, and then nailed it with the sequel.
What happened after that point didnt matter, Banjo and Kazooie could have either continued to be successful, had a bunch of crap games like Sonic, or just gotten bought out like what actually ended up happening, their initial games left such a lasting impression on such a high percentage of people who owned the N64 that they were gonna be remembered 20 years later even with nothing coming out

Bomberman has over 70 titles but has a lifetime sales metric of 10 million sales
Is this number of games larger than that of the Banjo-Kazooie franchise? Yes
Is this lifetime sales number larger than that of the Banjo-Kazooie franchise? Also yes
But break down 10 million sales going into 70 titles and you realize the vast majority of Bombermans games havent made any noise or gotten any attention. 1/10th of the total series sales are from Bomberman R alone and that was largely because it was one of the only things for Switch early adopters to play

The average for game sales in the Bomberman franchise is sub-1 million (accounting for the 20 or so arcade and mobile games which wouldnt add anything to the series total sales), and the vast majority of those are multiplats
Which means that Bomberman was exposed to a fraction of a sub-1 million number of Nintendo fans with every release.

He mathematically hasnt made nearly the lasting impression on Nintendo fans that Banjo and Kazooie have despite having a bunch of big numbers the fans can point to in order to justify him as important. Smash is about making a big splash, a lasting impression, and Bomberman is a faucet thats been left to drip for 30 years

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not according to the smash ballot
what could be more relevant than a popularity poll specifically for smash?
and everyone knows who mickey mouse is but he isn't the global favorite cartoon character

Banjo is more popular on google trends

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>replying seriously to this retarded false flagger
user...

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>what could be more relevant than a popularity poll specifically for smash?
sales.

>what could be more relevant than a popularity poll specifically for smash?
Because Bomberman doesn't live and die in Nintendo like Banjo does? Next thing you are gonna tell me is that Touhou isn't more popular than BK.

Rayman is miles more popular then both Bomberman and Banjo and yet he’s still not in smash

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SeeIt applies to Rayman just as much as Bomberman

Rayman is objectively a more popular character, his franchise sold 28 million copies and that’s not including any of the rabbids games

>shit reaction pic
opinion discarded.

I've never played touhou because I'm not Japanese or a weeb but its obviously more popular than BK at the moment but touhou has zero relations with Nintendo so its even less relevant to smash than bomberman

How many non-Smash games have the Ice Climbers been in?

So you're saying that the last two DLC characters should be Jonsey and some MOBA bitch, right?

One good one.

The current target audience of Rayman isn't as broad, Rayman is pure platforming while BK is a more jack of all trades adventure game. I would like him in too but I can see why they though BK has more marketing appeal.

>So you're saying that the last two DLC characters should be
I'm saying bomberman is more popular than banjo.

And how many of those 28 million copies are on Nintendo consoles? How much exposure have Nintendo fans had to Rayman?

Divide 28 million into 5 games that are on every fucking platform on earth and you'll find that the number is a lot lower than the one you like to throw out in order to feel safe.

mad.

>Why didn't this happen?
>Why did that happen?
>It's just not fair.
The sooner you stop mulling on ways to bum yourself out the sooner you can enjoy life for a change.

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you.

just because a game franchise has sold 10 million games over 70 releases doesn't mean it's inherently more popular than a franchise with 5 million sales over 2 releases
I like bomberman but I like banjo a hell of a lot more. Despite that, I've bought 4x the bomberman games relative to banjo games
sales don't always correlate with popularity

> Using numbers from 2004
Retard

>just because a game franchise has sold 10 million games over 70 releases doesn't mean it's inherently more popular than a franchise with 5 million sales over 2 releases
yes it does.

Because people wanted him you insufferable cunt.
The based the whole thing on fan demands and voting, and the results showed people wanted Banjo. It's not that fucking hard to understand

banjo has more unique sales than bomberman
bomberman's best selling game sold just over 1 million copies
banjo's worst selling game sold just over 1.3 million

Don’t worry OP, way to much effort went into the fighters pass because none of those characters will be playable in smash after ultimate. Joker, Hero Banjo and the remaining 2 FP characters will all be cut next game, Bomberman may get his chance next game as long as it isn’t a reboot.

Imagine unironically believing Banjo is more popular than Shiro "first HD game" Bomberman

Banjofags deserve death, thinking he's hot shit because of Smash

>unique sales.
No way you can verify who bought what.

Retard, Bomberman sales numbers hasn't updated since 2004, that's why it's 10 millions

Fucking zoomer

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Holy falseflag cope

I'm just glad we got another non-human.

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based, redpilled, he's /ourguy/
Gruntyposter makes zoomers cry!

youtu.be/lPeuuCbc55c

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> No argument

>could have had Magus
>instead we get some stupid ass fucking Bear and his gay bird friend
Why?
WHY?
Didnt we already suffer from the Dog Hunt!?

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Holy boomiezoomiestevieweavie

they wanted the hero from dragon quest but realized that western gamers don't give a shit about DQ

so banjo was brought in to compensate

Yes, both are shit choices.

Yeah he can't even get new games. No way is he that popular.

Reminder that he’s in and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it

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based

laugh about him not getting new games.

>Game & Watch
>half-cephalopod

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We can actually, we can pray he’s cut next game, which all fighters pass characters will be!

someone isn't coping too well, huh. too bad for you.

Because of his final smash.

> Had games in 2017 and 2018 with more to come in the future
Absolute retard

I know, I just thought it was funny

Who needs new games when you're already in one of the biggest games of all time?

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I'm talking about banjo.

he'll still always be in one more smash game than your favorite pick

>when you realize your favorite games are just commercials for other games that are commercials for other games...

welcome to the future, son

>one of the biggest games of all time
>not one that sold more than 10 million

Based and redpilled

Smash Ultimate sold 12M, retard.

I don’t even have a most wanted, I’m just stating what seems to be the truth.

That's way less than Wii Fit, BOTW, MK8 and Red/Blue

nice goal post moving, dumb kid.

It's not one of the biggest games of all time either.

>next game
Hope you’ll be able to cope for 7-8 years

Because he's part of the family.

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Gee, I wonder who the stevefags are disguised as.

Real talk, why the fuck is Yea Forums still a board?
It's an irrelevant pile of shitposts from a dead era of the internet.
Actual iconic video game forums like Resetera, who have over 70 developers and publishers amongst their ranks is derided by this ugly board which has few accomplishments, one of which is a terrible video game award stream.
Fucking unacceptable, you seriously can't defend this.

Zoomer faggot

Imagine thinking this is one of the boggest games of all time. GTA 5 shits on Smash

>zoomer faggot
>GTA 5
look who's talking KEK

New Banjo Game is in development. Sorry.

Joker is too popular not to return.

Ask
Christopher Walken, you retard.

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That’s just some German Amazon listing, it doesn’t mean jack shit-

>no announcement at e3

no way.......we lost stevecucks....

GTA 5 is bigger than smash. Don't have to be in a certain age bracket to know that.

He’ll only return if persona 5 is still as popular as it is, which it still may be. He Should get replaced by a SMT rep that has actually appeared on a Nintendo console however.

Why would they announce something in development? It's coming 2020. For Switch.

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lmao

They did it for BOTW 2, Bayo 3, MP4 and a lot more

Fucking retard

>why would they announce something in development? It's coming 2020. For Switch.
Now you're just talking about ports.

PQ2 is on 3DS. P5S is coming to the Switch.

I can't defend fucking your mom but I did it anyway

A fourth game is a port? OK. Wow, Stevefags are stupid.

Minecraft gets new stuff regularly.

>for switch
>no mention of xbox
It couldn't be anything else.

>one update a year since 2017 is regularly

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Seeya in 2020, year of the Bear.

minecraft dungeons.

You got nothing going on in your uneventful humdrum life you have to make a post of extremely low quality? Get a job you stupid nigger.

Think about this
>Smash 64: 1999
>Smash Melee: 2001 nothing special in the west but it’s Japanese name was super smash bros deluxe.
>Smash Brawl: 2008 Released around the series 10th anniversary, Japanese name was super smash bros x, x is 10 in Roman numerals.
>Smash 3ds and wii u: 2014 released around series 15th anniversary we got two versions of the game, each representing handheld and consoles respectively.
>Smash ultimate: 2018 released around the series 20th anniversary, all characters were brought back making it the ultimate smash. In japan it is called smash bros special, special edition featuring every character.

If you caught the pattern, since brawl every smash game has been released around an anniversary in the 5’s so if we go by this.

>Next smash: should be released in 2024, series 25th anniversary quarter of a century anniversary, after a game where all characters were brought back, the best thing to do on anniversary like this is to reboot the franchise.

tl;dr the next smash game should be a reboot for the 25th anniversary releasing in around 4 and a half years.

let him in

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Oh remember when you guys said Banjo wouldn't get in Smash? Look how that turned out for you.

Coming out in 2020, and is a stand alone game

That's a thousand times more sane than saying a new banjo game wouldn't be on xbox.

Just like the Crash and Spyro remakes would be Playstation only, huh?

But will they still be relevant in 5 years time?

And no don’t start bullshitting me with your ‘relevancy means nothing’ crap.

You forgot one thing, Sakurai is actually a boomer, he only looks like a zoomer due to not aging.

owned

>Just like the Crash and Spyro remakes would be Playstation only
Crash and Spyro haven't been playstation only for decades. I don't know who in their right mind who would claim that a new banjo game would be switch exclusive.

Does anyone actually give a shit about Bomberman's games besides autismos? I feel he is very similar to Pac-Man in that people only really care about the first game and every game after is just riding on the names success of that, although atleast Pac-Man had a 2nd major hit with Ms Pac-Man, I can't think of any other Bomberman game like that. Also Bomberman is much much less iconic than Pac-Man. When it came to picking the 2nd Konami rep, Castlevania was the much better choice, I can name plenty of critically successful Castlevania games outside of the first one. Getting in as an AT isn't that bad, especially since he is 3rd party.

Bomberman is 15 years older than Banjo though

P5 should have had a slow content drip instead of pumping out so many spinoffs in 3 years.
>Anime adaptation
>Manga adaptation
>Dancing in Starlight
>Q2
>Stars
>Royal

Zoomer faggot

No, except maybe this guy

Microsoft did.

> le epic zoomer meme

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Where?

Yeah, Atlus milked Persona 4 for like 8 years and still try to bring the cast back as much as possible even after P5 came out. 5 will be milked just as long, especially since it is their most successful game ever. It's a weeb turned based game with dating sim elements that managed to his mainstream success, like can you imagine a Falcom game ever being mentioned by normie late night talk show hosts like Conan or Jimmy Fallon? Cause Persona somehow managed to do that.

Literally only maybe 20 minutes of the fucking 120+ hour game is any type of dating. Piss off retard.

More importantly why isn't SNK in Smash? They've been in the gaming market since 1979, made countless influential arcade classics as well as some good quality games ever since they restored their brand, and a lot of shit in Smash Ultimate is inspired by King of Fighters

Those 20 minutes of dating encompass like 50%+ of all it's discussion and don't tell me Atlus doesn't pander hard to that group. That P5 Valentines Day OVA that just came out was all in 1st person with Ren being completely silent so that fat nerds could self insert and pretend to kiss their waifu.

Examples of inspiration:
>Squad Strike, literally just KOF's team system
>Mii Brawler's new special Flashing Mach Punch is just like Ryo's signature special Zan Retsu Ken
>Sakurai used to play KOF '95 and it's implied the skill gap between fighting game players inspired the idea of a fighting game anyone can pick up like Smash

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Not gonna defend that, honestly fuck waifushitters. It's fucking annoying.

grunty is the most based vidya villain i've ever laid my eyes on

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get fucked fag

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Because his first game was the best N64 game.

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mortal kombat 4 is better.

you got a source for that? I'd like to see the full version

Take the mask off, Steve

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MK doesn't stand the test of time. BK does.

Yes, he should have.

Mortal Kombat gets games.

Bomberman has no personality.

Heroic.

I heard the fucking "wheh"s
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You know as a DQfag I have to appreciate banjofags, their autism pretty much make the complaints about anime swordsmen almost non-existent.

They should add more anime swordsmen and cut out banjo.

All the Pokemon should just be under "pokemon" as they're all part of the same species. The only things that set them apart are typings, egg groups, and body types.

Rosalina isn't "divinity" in any way. She's a regular human that soaks up Luma magic. She herself is still just a human.

rhyming posts are very gay.

I don't know why you'd feel that way.

Aren't we all legion?

They're not cartoon characters or poets.

They did this game such a huge disservice with the lack of English voice acting.

don't you mean region?

I don't know, just trying to be funny.

Pretend I didn't post this I misread your post.

keep trying

Crash and Rayman are objectively better characters.

cope

Nah

if you needed any more proof corrin is a mary sue

Imagine seething this hard over a cartoon bear that guh-huh's.

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thats the state of this board

Let me fix the meter for you:

I just finished school, yes, grade number eight!
So let's head to Yea Forums and start posting some bait!
I sure think I’m clever, when I make you groan,
By posting a Wojak from my mummy’s phone!

>Be Me
>Work at Retro Games Store
>Finna charge fuckers an entrance fee cause they think it's a museum, and they can just pidder around nostalgia-gasming for two hours
>Fucking zoomers try to tell me what my childhood was like.
Anyways.
>Get about thirty calls a month asking if we've got Banjo Kazooie.
>Get about twenty calls a month asking if we've got Banjo Tooie
>Once or twice a month get asked if we've got Nuts and Bolts.
>I have to tell people that the GBA game even exists, but once I do they're on the hunt for it.
>Get on Yea Forums, where everyone hates video games and never plays them, but hey there's porn of tomboys so whatever.
>Thousand new posts every hour
>"WHY CAN'T I PLAY AS MINECRAFT IF PUZZLE BEAR CAN INTO SMASH?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!!?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!!11111111!!!!!!"

Why are we having THIS thread again, when we could have a Tomboys in VG's thread instead?

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He's never getting a new game they should be angry.

do you have a fucking banjo cartridge or not nigger

Looking at this thread, you wouldn't know it.

I owned bomberman 64, bomberman hero, and bomberman tournament for the GBA (which had a cool zelda adventure mode with collectible pokemonesque creatures in it for some reason). Even though they were all good games it's hard to feel attached to bomberman, he doesn't have a personality and almost feels like a placeholder.

>he doesn't have a personality and almost feels like a placeholder.
steve?

He's a robot but he is heroic.

Not for you, dood.

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>Bomberman
He's literally represented perfectly

I can see that.

Doesn't have to. Those characters get to come back.

Why are the icons for the Pokémon Trainer's team different from the ones actually used in the game?

i think i recognize this
is it in new york

They're fan-made.

It's gonna make the year of luigi look like a well supported event.

Nein, Utah

How many calls do you get for Minecraft

there's this thing called popular demand

The last time anyone asked me about minecraft it was some hispanic mother who wanted it for the PS2

What are the chances Max Payne will be added to Smash?

Other than that prolly two or three times a month somebody asks for it on XB360

Gee I wonder who could be behind this thread.

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Higher than banjo being revived.

I hope this image gets spammed more than the BOTW one

zelda is way bigger than banjo so no.

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>actual Nintendo characters (even if former) shouldn't be in the Nintendo crossover game

Also protip: don't drag your own characters into such arguments unless you want even less people supporting them.

What’s the game you get the most calls for

Your insecurities are leaking out.

Banjo is a Nintendo character, Bomberman isn't, now fuck off

>Zelda is way bigger then banjo
Lmao cope faggot, Banjo is on par with Mario, Pikachu and Mickey when it comes to recognition

Banjo is a Microsoft character

nintendo's n64 days were also the downfall of the brand, not really an era worth remembering.

If it makes you feel better, I'm a Banjofag and still sad about Bomberman.

No

Cope harder zoomer it's only begun

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Are people still upset about Incineroar?

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it should’ve been issac

>wojak
>reddit spacing
>copypasta spamming
>and on top of that doesn't like the only good 3D game of the 5th gen
Fuck off child

Fpbp

>Banjo is on par with Mario, Pikachu and Micke
delusion.

Kirby and Touhou have crossed over together for some music game. It's a flimsy connection, I admit.

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>Gruntyposter 07/02/19(Tue)18:38:05 No.468958602
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>"I just finished school and grade number eight,
>So let's head to Yea Forums and start posting bait!"
>You sure think you're clever, but you only cause groans.
>Only children enjoy posting Wojaks from phones!

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i am

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Good

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garbage

>Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy
Blame Jewnami, not Banjo. Be mad that he would have been in before Bomberman since Melee since 3rd parties wasn't as possible back then.

Why does all Steve merch have the beard?

Bomberman's cool, but he's Konami.

Rareware was a massive part of the SNES and N64, and Banjo represents that. He originated there, under Nintendo.

Banjo coming home is like Peter Parker coming home to the MCU, despite being owned by Sony. It's magical moment for true Nintendo fans.

>the beard
Huh?

>He's an irrelevant character from a dead franchise
That's what makes him perfect for Smash. Smash is like Celebrity Dancing. New characters are either there to advertise their newest games or a place where they can die in peace. If Smash is the last game Banjo is in, I'll be fine with that.
But if its like Megaman, Banjo inclusion in Smash ends up reviving the series, so its a win-win either way.

>Nintendo fans
Kind of breaks down when Snake, Cloud and Joker are in, who have had minimal presence on Nintendo, but large enough on the Playstations where they could they could be considered de-facto Sony characters in a similar way that Banjo *was* de-facto Nintendo. Pacman and Ryu have no specific Nintendo leanings either.

While Banjo was specifically targeted at older Nintendo fans (Bayonetta, Megaman and the Belmonts to a lesser extent), there's five third parties that's been targeted at general gaming fans.

BASED

That's what the brown stuff around his mouth is

NO STOP LIKING BANJO
STEVE
IT SHOULD BE STEVE

Pit was part of a dead franchise when he was introduced in Brawl, as was Mega Man when he was introduced in Smash 4. Simon and Richter are part of a dead franchise too and they're in ultimate. No one complained about any of those characters. Hell, Pit and Mega Man eventually got new games.

Steve is cute

That's just the shadow

>Snake
He's debatable seeing that he was first introduced to the west on the NES
>Cloud
FF was also big on NES/SNES, but since FF7 was never on a Nintendo console until like last year, it would have been a better choice if they got someone from FF6 like Locke or Celes Not like most people know who they are anyway
>Joker
The biggest curve ball really. Maybe it was done because of Shuffle, but I would have much prefer if it was SMT character since that series is more prominent on Nintendo consoles

Also Bomberman has 33 Nintendo EXCLUSIVES

Across EVERY Nintendo consoles, from Game Boy to Wii.
Including a Switch launch title, funded by Nintendo themselves.
Including Nintendo's first ever crossover, pic related.

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Asking for Sony and Xbox characters in a Nintendo game is like getting a Filet O’Fish at McDonalds

>If Smash is the last game Banjo is in, I'll be fine with that.
fuck rosterfags.

upvoted for effort post. fuck phoneposters

>bomberman
Who?

microsoft doesn't even bother making exclusives for their own console anymore, let alone the competition.

throws bombs, is a man.

Mario and Luigi are Earth humans from Brooklyn.

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I would much rather have Sony and Microsoft character in Smash than having Sony or Microsoft make their own inferior fighting game *Cough* PlayStation All-star *cough*

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>Microsoft says 'Hey, Nintendo, make a new Banjo game.'
>Nintendo says "Oh sure, can we get it first and then put it out on the Xbox? Sorta like what you guys did with Battle Toads?"
>Microsoft says "Oh sure. Just ignore Stevefags."

>Rayman is miles more popular then both Bomberman and Banjo
How the fuck delusional are you?

So a Muslim?

the owlfags and grinchfags never stopped seething.

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Nobody really cares about the original Metal Gear games though. It was the Solid ones that made Snake a star and put the series on the map.

Cloud's an odd one since the FFs before 7 had strong Nintendo ties (I think they were exclusives, can't remember for sure), but Cloud is still undoubtedly the most known FF hero. Still, going for Cloud over Terra/Cecil seems more of a reach for general gaming fans as opposed to focusing on just Nintendo ones.

Why is this ordered so wrong

Rayman has sold 28 million copies, Banjo 6 million and Bomberman 10 million. HMMMMMM

bomberman is 2004 numbers there.

I have no idea. It was the only picture from Google that had every picture.

overwatch has sold 100m copies
tracer confirmed for smash

overwatch is more popular than smash.

He's outsold both series combined. Fore more anecdotal evidence, Rayman was widely played amongst people at school (less so than Crash and Pokemon though.) No one ever talked about Banjo or Bomberman. Not sure if anyone there even knew who they were at the time, because I sure didn't.

100%

No, THROWS bombs, not WEARS them

naw it's gotta be genji, the sword user with a reflect/counter is a shoo-in
genji makes every game he's in worse and you can't prove me wrong

Go out on the street and ask people if they like Rayman
Most people will be like
>Who the fuck is Raymond

Candy Crush also made millions, but that doesn't mean the candy cane is iconic

hc smashers cant see the writing on the wall banjo was a retarded pick many more deserving relevant characters could have gotten in, and 'hero' is a dragon quest ad, they didnt put chrono or geno in because theres no potential sales in it for squeenix. this games dead and does anyone even care what the last two are?

these picks are bad and only going to get worse. wheres all the 'fucking awesome cant wait to play as banjo threads'? there arent many , and not nearly as many as threads claiming he was in, because no one wanted him in , and it was all troll bait. id rather have two more pokemon at this point. at least theyll be unique.

I mean my parents know who Rayman is

They'll also assume Banjo is an instrument.

>araki destroys smash just like blizz destroyed hots
best timeline if true

Uh oh, someone's angry.

>araki
i mean sakurai aw shit

Well Bomberman is a fucking slut. Konami just whores him out to whoever is willing to take him. Banjo & Kazooie are like gold. Rare and highly sought after. Eat a fucking dick op, banjo is in and there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN FUCKING DO ABOUT IT YOU DUMB LITTLE CUNT AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fairly based

Remember when Nintendo, Rare, and Sakurai BTFO'd Steveposters who wasted half a year shit posting and now act like they're the victims? It's fucking hilarious.

>mfw the only time Bomberman gets a broad discussion and it has to be from the hands from a damn falseflagger.
>mfw Bomberman will never have a decent game like Saturn, 64, or Tournament.

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>Banjo & Kazooie are like gold. Rare and highly sought after.
is that why all of their games except for the first one sold like shit?

Nintendo, Sakurai and RARE aren’t aware of Steveposters

>fox
>canine
u wot m8

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stop trying to make Bombchads against us, stevefag.

t. banjofag

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All Bombermanfags died a long time ago

Hero was better.

I wonder how many Steveposters were Bomberman/Rayman/Geno/Ashley/Issac fans in disguise?

Raymanfags aren't annoying tho

Bomberman has actual games to keep up a fanbase.

What exactly is Banjo advertising?

Based and witchpilled

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i doubt isaac/genofags would actually stevepost, but yeah most steveposters are other characterfags, who shat on banjo because he was the last never ever left alive.

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Isaac and Genofags got BTFO’d and shat on pretty hard so I dunno

Don't need to defend it. He's in. Sakurai said he would have been a natural choice years ago if not for the Microsoft buyout.

microsoft as the good guy so the Nintendo/Microsoft alliance can take down Sony next gen

>Konami just whores him out
Konami abandoned Bomberman for years, It took Nintendo literally bringing together the original Hudson team themselves to get Konami to make the last bomberman.

This is your brain on Jojo faggotry.

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Because bomberman is too valuable to let go.

bruh

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It’s him!

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Yeah so valuable that Konami had to be forced and paid for, and even then they gave it the minimum possible budget

im not gay and hes a wasted slot but i would very much let this interpretation of incineroar in my asshole

I'm pretty sure OP is shitposting just to get a raise from people but because I have nothing better to do I will lay down some great reasons as to why Banjo Kazooie's inclusion was justified
>Banjo Kazooie is one of the few 90s Mascots that are not Mario nor Sonic nor Crash Bandicoot nor Spyro that are still fondly remembered and has a great history with Nintendo.
>Although it may not be seen as much nowadays, the first game alone sold more than 1.8Million in the US. Thus it ranked 10th place as the highest grossing games for the N64.
See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_64_video_games in case you don't believe me.
Reminder: This was 1990s money, money worked very differently back then. So for the time, it was a decent success. Thus sparking a sequel which also sold relatively well.
>There has been overwhelming fan demand for Banjo and Kazooie in Smash Bros for nearly two decades. Sakurai, Rare, Microsoft, and Nintendo were bound to address and look for a way to cash in on it at some point. Especially Microsoft.
>In both official and unofficial polls, Banjo Kazooie was always in the top spots. Thus thoroughly exemplifying just how many people wanted them in Smash.
>Sakurai did say that a major factor for a character's inclusions is if the games they're from are enjoyable. Banjo Kazooie is one of the most critically beloved games from the N64 era, they fitted perfectly for Sakurai's quota.
>Microsoft and Nintendo would've been foolish not to cash in on the demand for new Banjo Kazooie content. Now that I think about it, I can now argue that making highly beloved and requested characters like Banjo and Kazooie as a DLC was the more logical, and even more ingenious business decision rather than having them in as base game fighters. And seeing the overwhelmingly positive reception from the majority of people, I'd say it payed off well.

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Konami has moved it's business model away from video games of that kind for the most part.

Literally one per game

But GTA 5 can't be bigger than Smash Ultimate, bro. It has ULTIMATE in the name. Fuck off.

You could argue that with a few characters in smash. However it is because they are iconic that they are being added.

>Actual iconic characters like Bomberman
If Bomberman got in, he would be another zoner who everyone accuses of spamming as much as the Belmonts with bigger trap setups than Snake and everyone would hate him. I'm not even going to say he doesn't have enough to draw from for a moveset because you could make a pretty solid set out of nothing but the various bombs he has used thought his history but like the Belmonts, dropping and throwing them constantly would be a significant portion of his game and he'd get a shit rep for it and would probably be low tier on top of it. Do you really want to see that happen to him? Better for him to die a hero than to live long enough to become the next Smash scrub crutch.

Caniade.

I could see an argument for Rayman, but Crash, I feel, is rather generic compared to Banjo & Kazooie being a duo.
I mean, they even did their own Duo thing with Twinsanity.

Brooklyn is new donk city, it's still an AU earth

It's just general knowledge.

Banjo Isaac and Geno are grinchbros though, why would they stevefag?

candy crush is iconic unfortunately.

Real talk, why the fuck are Ice Climbers playable? They're an irrelevant character from a dead franchise with just ONE game

Actual iconic characters like Bomberman, who has over 70 games mind you is only an assist trophy, but these stupid eskimos who have only ONE GAME?

Unfucking acceptable, you can't seriously defend this.

I just want him to be in the game at all. Why would you give a hoot about what people think about your character's playstyle? Besides, most people who complained about the Belmonts were people who didn't know how to fight 'em anyways. The Belmonts almost have no "get-off-me" option if you give 'em no space to throw or set-up projectile combos.

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>I just want him to be in the game at all.
You already got your wish.

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>yep it's him

when the fuck has anyone ever cared about bomberman lmfaoooooo

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the world extends beyond Yea Forums.

thank you grunty.

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crash pulls wacky off pretty well.

Magnus is Square. Banjo didn’t do shit to his spot, Erdrick took it because he’s the one Square chose for their new rep.

>erdick
hero.

Because Banjo Threeie is coming out you retard.

What are you speculating?

Does hot Grunty still wash her hair with baked beans, brush her teeth with tuna icecream toothpaste, wear a flea circus under her dress, sleep in a dumpster, sip elephant sweat smoothies, and eat dog dung burgers?

My dad works at Rare. The plot is about Banjo getting Mrs. Boggy pregnant. Banjo goes back in time and goes through eight worlds (each in a different year) to prevent Mrs. Boggy from every being born, so he can't impregnate her.

There is absolutely nothing they can do about it. Must suck. I'll just sit here and wait till October or whenever.

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brown bears can cross breed with polar bears?

god, i hope so.

Fuckin Banjo gets in but not my nigga Shadow. I refuse to buy a Switch or Ultimate

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Yes.

Tails is a better character.

>Character from game series what not only became one of most iconic games on N64. Has successfully passed test of time and nobody managed to make a good spiritual successor even people who made this game were not able to do that.

VS

>A character from series what had so much games nobody was able to catch up but despite of that nobody thinks this series achieved anything recognizable. And clones of games from this series are basically the same like original.

Olimar should be grouped with flora.

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Have sex.

>hasn't had a good game in fucking forever
>still more iconic and memorable than doom guy and masterchief.


KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK

OP's a fucking faggot and a brainlet falseflagger trying to shit on banjobros, but this thread's disappointed me on how many zoomers don't know anything about bomberman.

Okay, enjoy your waifu arcade games, boy.

We're getting Kula in the fighter pass.