Reminder, this character is mid tier and if you lose to him it's your fault. He has no gimmicks...

K. Rool has gimmicks even though he's shit tier. Stop being retarded

>mid tier
He's not the best sure but he's very much top tier. That said he has counters and is decently balanced well.

He doesn't deserves nerf and anyone who thinks he's remotely Smash 4 Bayonetta tier is insane. Pichu was the strongest any character in Ultimate has been and even they didn't reach Bayonetta tier.

>Gimmick=Bad
Gimick just means they don't fight in a more traditional sense user, that's it.

Pacman is the most gimmicky character in the game and he's also the best.

arsen counter against chrom is fucking stupidly broke

How do I git gud with Joker, guys? I spam the ever living fuck outta him, but the matches that I win feel more like the opponent made a mistake, rather than I played well.

>A character's defining feature is their gimmick
This just in, Kirby having 5 jumps is a gimmick.

Do you know what a gimmick is retard?
Go look up the meaning before making a thread because you’re basically calling an orange a grape right now

Yes?
Kirby's copy is a gimmick too, so is Cloud's limit, Inkling's ink, etc.

Yes.

iT's AcKcHuAlLy CaLlEd FiGhTeR aBiLiTy
ssbwiki.com/Fighter_ability

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He has no gimmicks

OHNONONO

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Jigglypuff does too, but yes.

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>up air drag downs
>use gun downwards in the air
>down b before arsene comes out

He loses more matchups than he wins. Not top tier.

What character do you NEVER give a 2nd game on quickplay?

for me its Simon and Richter

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>I don't know what gimmick means

>Yea Forums thinks Joker is top tier but not these fucks

they have no fucking results, a flawed recovery, and shitty frame data

little mac

Do "Adult" "men" really play video games?

The rats, Ness/Lucas players, and Palutena.

>I get all my opinions from ecelebs

What the fuck [character that wins] is so broken Sakurai needs to [nerf that would not solve the problem] and buff [character I play] and [character I will complain about later when they start beating me]

>My inability to play the matchup means they're objectively overpowered

Ultimate tier lists are a complete clusterfuck but it's not hard to think critically about these things.

>Get your favorite vidya character of all time in Smash
>You beat people with him so badly they think he's top tier when he's not

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>joker
>your all time favorite vidya character
you don't play much video games do you?

Imagine your favorite vidya character being a mute.

Imagine fedoralord bait for people who can't go on real dates being your all-time favorite vidya character.

You have to be 15.

It's more common than you would think. Look at how popular Darth Revan or Commander Shepard are.
That said, having your favorite "character" be an empty vessel for (You) to self insert into is still pretty pathetic.

>Mad we took your exclusive?
>Smash kiddies think playing as joker in smash is equal to having persona 5
Lmao, cope for not getting P5 nintenlard

>gets his ass kicked up and down the stage
>suddenly becomes top-tier and can now completely upset the game
Yeah "no gimmicks"

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Who are your favorite characters anons?

Have my character 3x3 you tasteless fuckboy

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we're getting the better Persona game anyway

I don't have one. I have favorite games. I don't have favorite characters.

So I guess I can't judge you.

Yes, that's what a gimmick is dumbass.

Nobody, I bail after 1 fight almost always.

>Villainfag
Of course you wouldn't appreciate a masked vigilante who fights on the side of justice. Get the fuck out of my face, kiddo.

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SMTV is a switch exclusive, get fucked nerd.

inkling because I love cunny

SMTV is never coming out

Then you couldn't possibly understand what it means to me to have /myguy/ in the game.
How does it feel to know that my favorite character would probably fuck yours right in front of you?

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>download joker
>fall in love with the character
>decide to main him
>practice a ton with it
>get decent
>start beating friends with him
>leo starts maining him
>he starts winning majors
>"user, you're only winning because you main a busted character"

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You see this?

This is why you're stuck pursuing anime women instead of the real deal

horny

Damn, that's some potent bait, but it's pretty obvious you're just fucking around.

you can keep the roastbeef for yourself bro

people play it yeah, but no men

Simon Belmont > Banjo-Kazooie > Ridley > King K. Rool > Hero > Inkling > Piranha Plant > Isabelle > Joker > Incineroar

>A fucking musou game
>That Ps4 is also getting
Lmao

What adult games should adults like ourselves play?

K. Rool has the most SOUL. Banjo is 2nd, Inkling third. The rest are bland nothings.

I don't give a fuck about anime women because I'm not an incel. Meanwhile you have 5 of them on your card.
Let them bitch user, just keep winning.

TLoU2

2d>>>d

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>yes goy keep whacking to your animoo waifu don't worry about your dying white race you stupid goyim

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>ridley
>no soul

jokes on you faggot im black

Joker is the only newcomer with soul. The rest are either gay anime weebshit or soulless nostalgia pandering.

>edgy monster with zero personality

The turd that I shat out this morning had more soul than Ridley.

Literally top tier character
You retard

He's trash without Arsene. Arsene is almost like a Ganondorf with good mobility and a counter. MKLeo is top tier, not Joker. You crybabies said the same about Lucina and Ike just because MKLeo was so good with them.

Ness and Lucas
I also block them

>Loses more matchups than he wins
Lucina is actually broken though. Joker isn't.

literally play melee

joker players are closet weebs i see

Kek

(you) are low tier.

Yes

i would but my copy of melee broke almost 10 years ago

Imagine being an elitist with favoritism

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Melee doesn't have Joker. I don't give a fuck about any of the other characters.

Lucina is honest as fuck, people only say she's broken because MKLeo.

Ness
Young Link
Little Mac
Zelda

Besides those 4, anyone that decides to stall like a faggot or does nothing but shield grab, I never rematch.
Those fags that run away until overtime at 4 million gsp are the worst.

>This is what Yea Forums scrubs actually believe

>every aerial and tilt are extremely safe, plus the range on her smash attacks
>honest

Alright, tell us how Lucina is broken then. I'll wait.

>these responses

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>All her attacks are disjointed
>Best recovery in the game
>Best neutral in the game
>Best edgeguard in the game
>Fast movement speed
>Godlike zoning
>Godlike recovery

Jigglypuff and Dedede also have 5 jumps.

>Lucina
>Godlike recovery

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that recovery is really good what are you talking about

None of this is true except some of her aerials being safe. She doesn't have the best anything, she's just a jack of all trades with no OP moves, nothing broken. That's why the character isn't winning every tournament ever, which would be the case if all that was true.

>he has no gimmick
Wut

It’s decent but it’s nowhere near being great

Lucinafags are so god damn delusional. You have the most braindead, overpowered crutch character in the history of the series and you still try to defend her. Fuck off.

Banjo has a lot of soul on his own, but factoring in Kazooie's soul, they're far and away the most soulful.

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Top 5. Cope.

>decent
>great speed, hard to gimp
>great distance
>comes out real fucking fast
>great "get off of me" tool/combo breaker
>great out of shield option
>decent

flynn from smt 4

I had this happen once amongst my friends. That was until I went one of my secondaries and he suddenly didn’t know the match up. Your friends are just shitters

>Belmonts
>Ness/Lucas
>Snake
>Ryu/Ken
>All animeme characters
>Mario
>Pikachu/Pichu
>Fox/Falco/Wolf

Do kids even play smash anymore?

Banjo's face and animations aren't as soulful as K. Rool's. K. Rool just standing there with his big ole golden belly and bulging eye > Banjo and Kazooie
In terms of attacks the cartoony boxing glove, goofy gadgets, magic pirate hat, etc. are more SOUL than Banjo's moveset.

>a defining trait or mechanic in a video game character isn't a gimmick, it's a feature and design choice.
In that case, your retardation is just a gimmick.

I don't know, maybe it just depends on what kind of characters you like. I like nice characters more than evil ones.

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Diddy, (Dr. )Mario, and people who lag.

Based zoomer

So is MKLeo the ZeRo of Smash Ultimate?

>made Ike seem broken
>made retards seething about Joker

ZeRo only abused the meta back in Wii U while MKLeo is the meta himself

I’d rather drag my balls through sandpaper than play another joker online. I wouldn’t say Joker is an s tier character but he is fucking annoying and even when I catch on to a joker main’s play style and can exploit their habits it’s still not fun.

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Who counters him?

for real, that gay ass counter and side b are so irritating. fuck this character.

>He has no gimmicks, no armor and no way to camp you.
Yet. Tier lists are fluid, Jigglypuff proves this.

I don't give a shit about the Nintendo characters. I'm a Persona fan not a Nintendo fan.

So just wait for P5 Arena

I'm sorry, does that exist yet? No? Then shut the fuck up.

I don't understand how people think Joker is mid-tier. Every fucking thing he has is crazy fucking good, aside from maybe his recovery with Arsene.

Honestly, there's more annoying characters to play against, like Yoshi, Ness, any zoner, Wolf, Snake, to name a few.

I hope you've closed the thread tab out of embarrassment

people who don't want to admit that their character is good

>"Just DI, bro" - Smash 4 scene and Bayonetta
>Finals proceeds to be two Bayonetta players timestalling because they're salty that people think their character is OP

>MKLeo is top tier, not Joker.
is this a new meme quote or something? the character is good, Leo or not

fucking hell user

What is that supposed to mean?

They should have kept going to middle finger the crowd.

>people who don't want to admit that their character is good
Snake mains especially pull this shit.

I dont dissagree completely. He's good but not busted. His rebel guard is is his best asset. Absorbing attacks is nasty

>character is good, Leo or not
Joker is decent but Joker doesn't belong on the ranks of Lucina and Pichu

>Characters get their 'buff'
>Bait for a counter
>Win

It's that easy. Mac is a joke to dodge. Joker players predictably go on the offensive once they persona up. Who has issues with Cloud?

Because Snake is mid tier.

yeah and palutena is low tier

None of the anime characters are low tier.

See what I mean?

Who is the worst character in the game?

Mac or Piranha.

>who is Robin?

Git gud

Just ness players, i swear the moment i actually give them a 2nd game and they win, they bounce and leave. I never give them a 2nd game now.

i wish i could deny ness players

>Sword character
>Low tier

Robin is mid tier, faggot. Levin sword still hits like truck.

someone who needs to get out of snash with the rest of the weebshit swordfags
god i can't wait to destroy you all with banjo so hard you never play again

>First party Nintendo characters don't belong
>A walking commercial for a competing console does
You can't make this shit up.

Charizard solo

Robin has no combo game and is slow as fuck.

I think he's talking about Q2 you sperg

frame 1 nades, enough said

Leo got over half his kills without Arsene at CEO

Why is everyone on this board retarded

You make it really easy for me to have a superiority complex

I have a richter player at my local. I laser/shine camp them as Fox and hit them with one N-air offstage to edgegaurd, nothing they can do. the castlevanias are trash

I was so excited to see them in Smash (Still happy about it, don't get me wrong.), but they ended being so awful to play. Wish we got Alucard as the CV rep instead.

Literally everyone's counter is broken against chrom (Maybe not greninja/lucario)

Literally this combined with defensive options dropping grenade; roll, spot dodge etc to drop grenade plus cooking, various throws, regrabbing, oos, combo starter, 2 out at a time etc
You are a moron. up tilt and nikita are especially silly as well he reminds me of melee sheik in a way that he can utterly invalidate large portions of the cast but to be fair he has some weird matchups

Joker's is even more broken than usual.

>he doesn't know about the anti-counter chrom bullshit
his recovery is almost perfect once you learn it. Joker and Corrin are the only chars that can cheese him cuz their counters are so big

>Leo got over half his kills without Arsene
Yes, Leo did. Anyone picking up Joker won't be able to replicate what he did in those tourneys because Leo is Leo. Leo did well with Ike and Lucina and you scrubs called them OP too. Maybe it's Leo who is top tier and not the character. Maybe that's why he's the only successful and consistent Joker and nobody else. When Leo mains someone else, you're going to bitch about that character being broken too, it's what bitches do.

based, ness/lucasfags should only circle jerk each others little boy characters and not leak into big boy zone.

if you lose to any character its your fault

Palutena

Basically.
99% of smash related salt involves you thinking that you're better than you actually are.
The last 1% is the dog shit online.

the same thing applied to your dating sim personagag don't forget

surprised nobody said sonic lol

>shield grab
Shield grabbing is a joke in this game. Do people actually get annoyed by it?

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Leo picking up Little Mac would literally cause Mac to jump a few tiers.