Morrowind is only good because of nostalgia

go play skyrim with your 4k tiity mods

You must be extremely old and think this is passable.

>It's not that it is hard to comprehend, it's that it is a completely useless mechanic that makes no sense.
...you're playing an RPG, user.
When you click and swing your weapon, you're rolling a dice to hit your target, it's an abstraction of a tabletop system.
This used to be extremely common for RPGs.
Have you never played D&D and such?
Not even once, in your life?

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Just admit it that you like this game because you are old as fuck and it was the game to play when you were a teen.

It's not an FPS, it's an RPG
Also remember that stamina is extremely important and you won't hit anything if you are tired as shit and your opponent is not

Just because every old fucking game used a garbage system does not mean that system isn't garbage. You're just an oldfag game snob who thinks you're outdated systems were superior because that's what you grew up on. Table top mechanics are fine for table top games.

This looks great. Clearly old, yes. But great

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking tranny faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

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>So because you have only 40 longblade skill, you should only hit something you are swinging at directly in front of you 3 percent of the times you swing?
play the game before you actually complain about something

Still better than the next two TES games, at least once you skill up your character the combat becomes trivial instead of a waste of time

This is the premier oldfag response to criticism of your outdated games.

What the fuck is your problem even

That isn't criticism. That is a bold face exaggeration made by people who know nothing about the game.
If you have 40 in long blades you should be hitting 80% of your shots.

I didn't say the second response you linked retard.

LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS
IT IS NOT TOO LATE FOR MY MERCY

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Why are you angry?

i played morrowind last after i played skyrim i think if any thing youre older then me

>Does this game ever stop being garbage?
No, never. Bethesda have never made a good game.

You're just old, you're the modern equivalent of a boomer still thinking his old television from the 90s is great.

except they have and you are just a cynical fag.

I'm 22

Skyrim is good once modded as a fantasy setting simulator, the stories, save one or two quests are very bland. Oblivion had better stories but the settings were all very samey.

Based Dagothposting is the only way to counter CHIMfaggots and zoomers who can't fathom weapon-hit probability.

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But it is great?
Is this thread just bait for bait's sake?

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He needs to get raped and kill himself, you retarded fucking tranny faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome. and also have sex

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Then you're the type to comment "I'm 22 and I like _________ better than the garbage they make today" for upvotes.

What?? You don't like actual not 100% humanoid skeleton??

All of their games have shit gameplay and writing, they are only good as platforms for modding.

guys just add a mod that adds way points and gives you auto aim because you have the mind of a child and have to play games where the designers have to kitterally think of you as dogs so you dont shit your self

I played for the first time a couple weeks ago. I think its fun

still dont see whats wrong with it

CRTs are comfy as fuck, get out of my face
Yeah, yeah. You hate popular series because you are contrarian.
I really don't care about your edgy opinion.

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modern game design is designing games around retards that want the game to play its self

because I dont like morrowind and some of you do!

Same, I had a great time playing it with only a few graphics mods, really a unique experience

The idea behind the Argonians having different skeletal structure is very nice. But the implementation makes them look absolutely retarded. I'll re iterate, I can understand why people find this nostalgic, if I'd have played this as a kid I would feel 100 percent the same way as these people do about the game. But this is all just nostalgia, that's it.

No, just because you are young does not mean you cannot enjoy old things

>You hate popular series because you are contrarian.
This argument is invalid unless you defend every single thing that is or has been popular in the world.

Agreed, I play Skyrim se modded when I am fucked up because it's a nice world overall, but just playing it as a game when sober is boring as hell.

It isn't an argument. Not every fucking thing is an argument.

God i NEED that fucking limeware platter. Look at that fucking thing, how could anyone resist that temptation?

or youre just a graphics fag that hates having to think

Clearly I agree considering I am trying to make it through this game, this is getting to the point where it is as tedious as the first witcher.

>argonian that doesn't just look like a scaly human
>bad

Fuck off skybaby

I played this when I was 20 you mongoloid

Right, because the only intelligent people are the ones who prefer horrendous graphics and systems that are extinct now for a reason. Truly a fedora tipping remark.

The people who actually design the environment and locations in Bethesda games are such a waste of talent. Morrowind and Skyrim have many locations that look beautiful and/or interesting when you first see them.

I can literally see you in my head, it's enough to make a grown man kek.

Fuhk baHD gUy diDNT diE iN onE hIt whERS mY WAYpoInts

People who complain about the hitting system are honestly something fucking else to me, I swear. I came into the game knowing that there was a clear path of progression I needed to take in order to level up, and I made a conscious effort to grind my melee combat skill whenever I could.
Actually imagine playing an RPG and not expecting to have to progress in order to perform well in combat.
If you use low damage weapons then you can get a solid level and a half off of a single enemy because the melee combat levels arent based on damage but are based on hits. Within 2 hours I was level 70 in spears and was hitting everything.

I assure you that the zoomies that hopped on morrowind only because they liked skyrim wouldn't complain about the hit system even half as much if the missed hits were replaced with blocks, along with an animation from the enemy blocking. The problem is that they can't logically justify hitting thin air. They don't have a problem with the gameplay, its just that they get mad because "it looks like it hit".

based dagoth poster

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Agreed again, the Nordic ruins in Skyrim are so interesting to look at, they feel like they contain history and have housed events from the past, but the writers have never been able to get a story to match the art design, same with the Ayleids in Oblivion.

>resorting to ad homoinems

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seething

that might be schizophrenia my fella

I must create an explanation for myself as to why people don't like something I like. This explanation must lift myself up as intelligent and having foresight while imbuing those I disagree with negative traits like ignorance, stupidity, and all other manner of traits I dislike from modernity. Cope more.

>a grown man kek
I am sure you are much worse my friend.

>Being so triggered yping so fast that you misspell your multi syllabic word intended to make you feel intelligent.

Lol imagine being such a fanboy that you have to think I am a lesser person because I don't like your faggot game.

>Actually going for the "you made a typo your argument is invalidated" approach
Man you must be seething right now

>He doesn't have a mind's eye.
>He thinks people who can conjure up images in their minds must have a mental disorder.

yping
Lol imagine being such a contrarian that you have to think I am a lesser person because I like a game you don't

I made this thread and you are replying to it, you must be seething.

>yping

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No need to be so mad, it was just a theory. Just one of many possible reasons why some people don't like the melee combat in Mmorrowind, and usually the whole game by wrongful extension.

My first point about grinding melee combat still stands though. It's not reasonable to not expect to have a time investment in an RPG, and not reasonable to want to be some well seasoned fighter who hits every swing when you just got off 6 month boat ride and have never touched a sword in your life

>He doesn't understand the purpose of this thread.

>tfw the rpg makes your character have to actually get good at fighting to defeat higher tier enemys instead of just running backwards

pray tell, what IS the purpose of this thread?

Explaining the shitty combat system as a side effect of the boat ride at the beginning of the game. Jesus, now that's what I call mental gymnastics.

>buying a rpg then complaining its a rpg

Lol pray tell, are you fucking Wyatt Earp? It is to trigger Bethesda fanbots like you into wasting your time trying to defend something you adore.

He is saying you are a fucking nobody and don't know how to fight you retard.

>He thinks I actually gave Bethesda money.

Someone who has never swung a sword in their life before can hit a 6 ft 5 300 lb mad directly in front of them. Does your character have downs?

ok > imagine pirating an rpg then complaining its a rpg

happy zoomer

Ah you are at the point where you have backtracked so much that you have to go into the "I was just pretending to be a retarded shitposter"

>So because you have only 40 longblade skill, you should only hit something you are swinging at directly in front of you 3 percent of the times you swing?
No, if that's the case for you then your game is bugged or you teleported to Mournhold and fought Gaenor and literally nothing else ever.

So you defend every shitty mechanic in an RPG as "WeLl ItS An RpG"?

Hit him sure, but damage him?
Though you have already admitted you have no real argument and are just shitposting so there is no real point in continuing this thread

I'm not pretending to be a shitposter, you're spending time on this, I've succeeded.

almost like they can doge and your caracter sucks or something why dont you just jump into a group of real life marines and kick all of their asses since a retard can jusrt suddenly kick every ones ass for some reason

Thank you for the forthright response. And now, if you have any questions, ask them. Otherwise, you are the challenger. I await your first blow.

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>I'm not pretending to be a retarded shitposter
Ah, thanks for clearing that up, retard.

So if say a 13 year old swung a sharpened metal object at you and hit you with it, they'd have to have training to make it actually hurt you? O fucking kay.

so do you go into a gay bar and complain its filled with faggots you dont like rgs so you dont like rpgs you dumb faggot

You're the one spending your time doing exactly what I made this thread for.

You are the one wasting your time doing absolutely nothing.
So I mean I guess we both lose here, retard.

no the 13 year old would swing his sword then the guy would step out of the way and beat the shit out of him

He would step out of the way in a scenario in which I said he hits him? Just answer the question, if a 13 year old swings a sharpened sword at you and hits you, would that hurt you?

Absolutely a faggot and zoomerpilled.

>He's still doing what I made this thread for him to do.

>plays an old RPG
>complains about the graphics and combat

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>he is still replying and wasting his time

Nigger I'm one of those people that calls out nostalgia fags and thinks morrowinds combat is absolute fucking horseshit but even I know that it isn't the point of the game.

You can go from zero to untouchable god king twenty different ways within the first half an hour of the game. Combat doesn't fucking matter as you start the game as a living god that has achieve chim. Your character is you, and you are as godlike as you are competent to become.

You are in an alien landscape with its own rich culture and history and you can be as powerful as you can figure out how to be. If this does not appeal to you then RPGs are not the game for you.

If you aren't a zoomer and are on Yea Forums on a Tuesday during work hours you are probably a loser.

If the man was wearing clothing and armor?
No.
Also a 13 year old will barely have the strength to lift a regular sword, so he could not produce the required strength to attack with any real power.

not if he hits Armour or swings like a retard odds are the 13 year old isnt very strong

So you're saying the game has unbalanced, horrendous progression and that makes the combat tedious, unsatisfying and too easy at best. Yet still this game, you defend lol.

then what are you doing?

welcome to bethesda games

The game's strength comes from the lore and how it ties into the setting, characters and quests. If you don't give a fuck about what happened at Red Mountain, you're not going to like the rest of the game.

You keep adding layers to the scenario that were not present at the beginning. Swords weigh about 8 lbs, what kind of muscular atrophy did your body have at 13? Swords do not weigh what they weigh in video games retard.

I'm on summer break retard.

Morrowind was good for what it was.
They have come a great distance from those first stumbling steps.

except it is a video game

Go get a job, loser.

and then they went backwards with skyrim

>a guy that's been in a prison cell for who knows how long VS a career smuggler that no doubt gets into fights all the time
Gee, I wonder who wins. Also take into account in a lot of the caves in Morrowind there are usually 1 or 2 NPC trainers implying the NPCs do train with each other in there. Consider the fact that you're a nobody who just got released from prison a week ago, it's no wonder you'll lose to them.

I never said they did, retard.
A kid would not be able to properly wield an 8lb sword.
Nor would he have the required finesse to get anything but a glancing strike on someone who was even semi skilled in swordplay.

So either it's a game and its logic is severed from the real world and thus is susceptible to its mechanics being criticized for being retarded, or as you tried to do earlier, the game's logic is married to real world logic and that's why you can do no damage, which is it?

So you are underaged.

Morrowind was particularly bad in this regard.
After level 20 or so the game lost all sense of danger. Sooner if you meta gamed.
A brutal start followed by intense boredom is not the best progression route to follow.

They have learned from their early mis steps.

or the game has fantasy weapons retard a sword can weigh noting or 3 tons

A 13 year old can swing 8 lbs of weight distributed over 4 feet of a sword, do you have any concept of how weight distribution effects the overall feeling of an objects weight? If you can't swing an 8 lb sword at 13, you are deformed or have muscular problems.

>haha that old game you like is shit doesn't that bother you?

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Not even slightly correct.
I pretty much ignored the blah blah and just explored.
Pretty much the game plan for every Bethesda game.

by taking the rpg out of a rpg game

Yes, because that shit largely doesn't matter. You're like one of those faggots that plays DnD to powergame. Roleplaying is not for you.

We have very different taste in games user.

>He can't answer the question

>he got filtered by seyda neen mudcrabs
it's okay, champ. Make sure you run Agility as a primary attribute and your preferred weapon as a major skill next time! You'll get there! I believe in you!

The trick is to make sure that you actually care about what you're doing. If you're just going from quest to quest without paying attention, it's not going to be fun. There's plenty of lore to learn, if you put in the effort. Morrowind's greatest strength is the world. If you aren't immersed in it, you're missing out on the best part of the game.

almost like you would most likely be nourished if you were in morrowind

Not to mention the fact that no one addressed, that if you play at a resolution beyond 1366x768 your dialogue is very small and so you have to literally squint to read the dialogue in a game where most npcs have no voiced dialogue.

>better have a magnifying glass for dialogue
It's from 2002 you mongoloid. muh FORKAY wasn't a tihng back then, you played in 1024x768 or less.

If that is what it takes then yes.
Not sure what your contention is but Skyrim had more choice and consequence than Morrowind.
C&C is a hallmark of RPGs or so I am told.

>Making this many excuses for a shitty system.
I get it dude, you are a big fan of the game and can't admit it has shitty gameplay.

lmao, a 13 year old could not properly swing a 8lb sword you actual child.

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we all ready said you could if you hit him some where unarmorred and just let them self gethit but probably wouldnt do much

Oblivion is from 2006 and I play it in 4k and the text scales properly.

You need glasses

If you think this, you have downs syndrome. Maybe not like a fucking fencing champion, but they can actually swing it, never did I say properly swing it. You are actually retarded.

I get it youre a zoomer that thinks hes john wick

If you think getting a sharpened object swung at you wouldn't hurt you, you're god damn stupid. You have been stuck in RPG vidya too long where you have to have training to do damage to someone. Tell me then faggot, how did children as young as 9 kill their parents with knives? It's almost as if it doesn't take that much effort to stab and slash flesh with a sharp object.

I played it for the first time last year so no.

>they can actually swing it, never did I say properly swing it.
So then you admit that they cannot properly swing it and thus cannot do any significant damage.
So I am correct. Thank you for finally agreeing with me.

install MGEXE and increase the UI scaling and the text will be bigger.

I re iterate my point about children who have stabbed their parents to death and slit their parents throats. You don't have to have training to hurt someone with a sharp object. You are god damn stupid.

this argument doesn't really make a lot of sense because if you hit someone in morrowind it does do damage, but your own character can miss and the enemy can dodge.

Have it installed, didn't see that option, will look again. Thanks

RNG dodging doesn't make sense, RNG hit's do not make sense. What about the fucking animals that you swing at and you don't hit as they sit still? They have training too?

and your fighting other sword fighter retard if they were unarmed civilans they would be easyer to kill is that the fucking point you were trying to make now ask your self what a kid with a sity sword would do against a knight

openMW has UI scaling also

>own morrowind GOTY edition on CD
>no disc drive in my new PC
what do anons?
I am about to visit home where my old PC is and I think it has it installed on there. Should I just copy all the files onto an external drive or should I try and install my old PC's HDD on my new computer?

A sword isn't a knife and the kid is in fucking melee combat.
You can't pull a scenario out of your ass that is 180 degrees different.
Stop being a fucking imbecile
Fuck man, armor isn't butter, it requires actual force to piece something like that.
Especially fantasy shit like bonemold and Netch leather.

>this is getting to the point where it is as tedious as the first witcher.
OK, now you are confirmed for complete shit fucking taste. seriously, why are you even playing video games? FUCKING ZOOMER

You should just not make life complicated and pirate the goty edition that you already have payed for in the past and if you want to use your saves copy and drop them in the save location if you can access them.

The 6'5 300lb dude is trying to dodge, deflect, and otherwise avoid getting hurt by you.
Only actual shield blocks are animated, which is a shame, but all of that other maneuvering is still represented in the gameplay itself by the role your target's Agility, Luck, Sanctuary, and Fatigue plays in their chance to evade your hits.

As for why this is, it's because it enhances the RPG gameplay much the same way your attack damage being based on your weapon skill and perks in Skyrim does. As any good RPG should it encourages you to stick to your character's established role (whether chosen as a class in the earlier games or based on your actions as in Skyrim) by giving you greater effectiveness when you make use of your best skills than when you make use of your shit skills. Elder Scrolls focuses heavily on letting you do what you want so unlike many other RPGs you aren't forbidden from doing something you aren't trained for, but you can still damn well suck at it.

As for why the earlier TES games use accuracy rather than damage alone like Oblivion and Skyrim do (since as noted above both approaches achieve the same end goal), it's just to give you another degree of freedom through which to customize your character. Instead of Strength and skill both affecting just damage, they have Strength affect damage and skill affect accuracy. Instead of a character just being strong or weak based on the sum of their strength and skill, they can be any combination of strong/weak skilled/unskilled. Maybe you're playing an Orc who picks up the biggest hammer he can find who would 1-shot literally anyone he hits, but swings it in a predictable telegraphed manner so his attacks are easily avoided except when he activates his Berserk power. That same archetype (high strength/low skill) in Oblivion would play quite differently, with frequent weak hits taking down his foes in battles of attrition rather than rare but instant kills and knockdowns.

And the animals standing still?
The first witcher had a really good story, combat was awful.

RNG makes perfect sense in the context of video game RPGs. As for enemies just standing still while you miss, it's the developers fault they didn't add an animation or something, so I'll give you that, but your second point about "animals having training" is stupid. Go outside and try to catch a squirrel with your bare hands, or kill a tiger with a sword. They don't have training, but they do have survival instinct so they know to avoid your "attacks" and how to dish out damage.

Buy the game again, user. You know you want to.

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What fucking animal?

If the squirrel was not moving and did not move as I swung at it, i'd just miss every time? Because in the context of the game, these animals are not moving.

The animals in the game, that if you have a low longblade level you miss as you swing at their completely still bodies.

yeah I don't really want to pirate it (though up until the last few months I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I recently downloaded Star Wars Rebels which infected my PC with a virus and I've been off pirating ever since despite this being my only issue). I guess it is only $9.99CAD on steam right now. Too bad they are so stingy they couldn't do 75% off.

i saw it in microcenter on disc, todd. i almost did it even though i have it on gog.

No, they're dodging/you're missing. I said yes, the visuals don't represent the miss or dodge, and that is a real fault of the game/developers, but in the context of the game they are dodging/you're missing.

Then the animal dodged the blow.
Just because he is stationary doesn't mean he isn't actively trying to get out of the way of your blows.
And again I will mention, low skill levels means you are an absolute retard in that area, so you are most likely ARE sometimes missing a completely stationary animal.

Yeah it went all the way the other direction by having gigantic fucking text and oversized menus that you needed mods to reduce so you could actually see more than six things at a time if you weren't playing on a TV several feet away.

I just cannot reconcile that as a good mechanic in a visual game. Table top, sure, makes perfect sense. It was a shit design choice, and I don't understand why so many people are not saying as you say that that is exactly what it was. They'd rather defend something they even know is not a good mechanic.

>I'm 17 and only play AAA titles from EA

Most, and when I say most I mean 90% of RPGs in that era used the same exact system.
Nobody cares because they can actually use that modicum of imagination they have left.

COME NEREVAR

stop posting shit bait and post more Dagoths.

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i thought it was fun from essentially the start, right after i started walking out from seyda neen.
You better get your eyes fixed if you need a magnifying glass, the combat is fine, since it's based on stats and works as intended. Get your stats up so you won't miss that often.
also this,

so much this, although it looks fine as fuck, not just fine.
You're talking about the platter and not even mentioning the rug? what's wrong with you?

Imagination is for books and table top, visualization is the literal point of video games. Please shut the fuck up with your "back when people had imagination" bullshit.

>Does this game ever stop being garbage?
Nah. It can't stop being what it never was in the first place.

>you don't use imagination in video games
what a sad sack of shit you must be.

well played sir, well played

>durrr muh grafix
>muh mods
>muh low level starting abilities

Confirmed zoomer shitter filtered by Seyda Neen.

Fuck zoomers and their shit opinions

Well crpgs were never really about how hard the combat is for the player, it was always about the character. It's like the player is guiding the character, rather than the player being the character. Besides, typically people don't praise the combat system in Morrowind, rather they say it's a good representation of the character's abilities.

I played it for the first time about 4 months ago and put 70 hours in. Very immersive.

Ok you turbo autist, keep using your imagination to correct shitty gameplay mechanics. I bet you defend shit stories with that logic too.

It's a sandbox RPG, you practically need imagination to play it. Here, would this fix it for you?
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46596

i played it recently and it's still great, your just a seething roasty/tranny/zoomer or whatever is currently applicable name for person who creates this low tier bait threads?

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The point of video games is to be an interactive medium utilizing the computer for various processes, not visualization.

Did you have fun wasting your time, friend?

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How do you interact other than via visualization of your actions you fucking tard?

Because Oblivion wasn't on 6th gen consoles and didn't have to account for people still running games at 640x480 and 800x600

Fucking dumb zoomer

I created this as a triggering thread, I did have fun. Especially seeing the mental gymnastics ranging from "well they're dodging even though they're not moving, you just have to imagine it" to "hurr imagination is the point of all games, you have to use your imagination to fix the mechanics of the game."

You can't sell the rug to a shady Khajiit merchant.

So in 17 years since release, they couldn't add a patch for ui scaling?

>mental gymastics
Ah, its been fun user. You make me laugh.

Use your imagination and nothing will ever be shitty user, just, not how you saw it at first.

I imagine you as a sad, lonely, man wasting his time "btfo out of bethesdrones"

Why do you need to play fucking Morrowind of all games in 4k? You bought some shitty meme monitor and you want to stretch everything out so you can get your moneys worth?

Play in 1024x768 or fucking cope, zoomer

>Play at 1024x768
>Game is a postage stamp on the screen
:^) Time to find my magnifying glass

just wait for Skywind
youtube.com/watch?v=Qf8lMMpFIDU

>fix the mechanics
You mean fix the animations. As far as the game mechanics go they definitely are dodging whether you imagine them doing so or not.

are you actually retarded or just baiting
please be bait

All the combat actually needed was "dodge" animations. Think like how when you land a hit, the enemy plays a stagger animation. They needed some sort of really quick juke animation on every miss.
It would've made it make more sense visually and possibly more retard-friendly.

just bought it on kinguin. thank you based secure pseudo piracy! now I can continue to live guilt free!

Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking tranny faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

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oh no no no no

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Is it really that hard to believe that a 1024 image would be tiny as fuck on a 4k screen?
Unless you're playing on a TV (which is fucking retarded), that shit is gonna be the size of a GBA screen in windowed mode.

>bought off a key site
NOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOO! user, YOU'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE! WHEN YOU BUY MY FUCKING GAME, THE MONEY HAS TO GO TO ME! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!

FUCK YOU, BUY ANOTHER COPY. FULL PRICE.

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WORKER SMASH STATE!!!

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QUICK SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU SAD IN MORROWIND. I really hate how many items are worth insane amounts of money some over 100k but no shop has more then like 20k gold. Hurts muh soul. Ya I know about the sell buy cheaper items and spread the purchase out over several days but thats not the point.

MELEE SUCKS IN THIS GAME, MAGIC STRONK

>yping

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true, but you could sell it to a proper trader but that's all moot, who would want to sell that thing of beauty?

Zoomer here just picked Morrowind up during the steam sale.

what's the best way to have a Vanilla type experience while still modding out glitches/bugs and maybe adding higher res options/graphics?

open to mod suggestions, character build tips, etc.

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Just up the draw distance clownboy

I'd tell you but you're a disgusting frogposter.

I legit only have fair magika and run like the wind along with the code patch thing. You may want to skip run like the wind at least for a first playthrough. Kids gotta learn what it feels like to be 40speed 5 athletics.

openmw

get the mod that removes the RNG hit chances shit
nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/23746

get openmw
modding-openmw.com/ if you want visuals, this is where to get it. All of it works with openmw. Make sure to check if things are "Fully working" or "Partially working". If it's partially working you'll just need Nifskope to fix most of the time. It'll either be renaming a .dds file from _nh.dds to _n.dds, or opening a nif file in nifskope and deleting all the branches that say "NiTextureEffect". All the mods that need this kind of tweaking are minor and fine to skip tho.
Grab Animation Compilation + Better Bodies ZW + Westley's Better Heads + Better Morrowind Armor + Better Morrowind Clothes + More Better Morrowind Clothes + The Tribunal/Bloodmoon better clothes mods (just google 'em). These fix the hideous segmented bodies and trash tier animations.
If you just want a simple all-in-one graphical overhaul, grab Morrowind Styled (my favorite), Morrowind Watercolored (not compatible with better bodies at all) or MWToon (also not compatible).
For gameplay, OpenMW covers most of the QoL stuff but grab Patch for Purists to fix the base game's bullshit.
Make sure to play a mage or build with magic in it. The magic system in MW is fun as FUCK once you play around with it, and very much broken OP if you know how to abuse it. INVEST IN ALCHEMY. It may seem like a pain in the ass but it's important for mages since there's no natural regen and Alchemy at levels 50 and up starts to get fucking insanely strong. Master level alchemy can give you potions that turn you into a god for a while.

Don't fucking do this
Don't fucking tell people to do this
It makes skills worthless.

>literally ruining the combat of morrowind
the RNG shit in combat is a big part of the balance of morrowind, don't use these kind of mods if you want a vanilla like experience at all.

Todd Howard. He did the story for Red Gaurd, then let someone else do Morrowind then did the story for oblivion.

I get that openmw is in a beta/test phase but is it at least more bug-free than the game running on the base engine?

No.
Not if you get patches for bugs at least. Honestly idk why people are recommending openmw when you can do almost everything it does with mods.

Having played vanilla morrowind for years and openmw, it's literally just vanilla openmw with a ton of optional QoL shit and engine fixes. There's only ONE reason to ever use vanilla Morrowind over openMW: If you see a MWSE mod that you want to use. Even then, OpenMW is finally starting to work on MWSE compatibility and once that's implemented it'll be a 100% replacement of Morrowind. It's not missing anything, it's not buggy. Make sure to grab the current nightly.
this is wrong, most of the engine related shit OpenMW does can't be replicated with mods. You also can't come anywhere near the level of performance that OpenMW can get. The only things you're losing is a handful of MWSE-only mods and Ambient Occlusion.

looks better than oblivion.

martialfags btfo

MGE XE and Morrowind Code Patch are the only essentials you'll ever need. They cover so much shit it's insane. Don't listen to people saying to use open mw, it's not compatible with these two mods, and is only worth if you use TES3MP

I want to play argonian in morrowind but their racial stats seem like shit, what do I build with them

They're an all arounder. Not amazing at anything but decent at everything. Except maybe magic but even then females get better magic stats.

>NOOOOOOOOOO STOP FIXING THE GAME YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY IT HOW I PLAYED IT

>guy asks for vanilla like experience
>intentionally give him a set up that's focused more on super fancy visuals and doesn't offer any QoL changes compared to OpenMW
Also outside of AO and a more basic water shader, OpenMW does just about everything these do. Just the shadows and distant land aren't nearly as optimized. The trade-off is it has unbelievably good looking normal/specular support and there's a modlist which adds norm/spec mapping to just about everything, including parallax on the terrain.
For visuals, I'll take everything having depth and detail over ambient occlusion and a slightly better water shader.

Argonians are terrible stat wise in morrowind. First off almost all thier racials are irrelevant due to events in the main story. Second and probbably more critical argonians and kajits cant wear boots or 90% of helmets. You still can play them but just know that they are technically worse then most other races. Still if you wanna play a jack of all and stick it to the black elves go ahead.

>>fix
>literally breaks weapon skills and makes it pointless to level them

yea ok
I bet you use a mod to make spells not fail too, retard.

>"what's the best way to have a Vanilla type experience while still modding out glitches/bugs and maybe adding higher res options/graphics? "
>"make sure to remove one of the core elements of the game, also one of the most controversial aspects of vanilla Morrowind!"
are you fucking retarded, user?

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I played morrowind fully for the first time back in 2017 with a bunch of graphics mods and some quest mods, but no big gameplay mods, and I greatly enjoyed it.

Don't listen to this tard

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yo if I've played for a decent amount of time in regular base morrowind, is it worth restarting in openmw just for all the qol changes and the like or should I just keep going with the regular engine?

Are you confused? This guy was suggesting Accurate Attack, a mod that massively breaks the game, to a first time player. If you want to remove missing then use Apoapse's Attack, it's not perfect but at least it still has some game gameplay left instead of completely gutting everything.

>guy asks for vanilla like experience
>intentionally give him a set up that's focused more on super fancy visuals and doesn't offer any QoL changes compared to OpenMW
well.. yes? MGE XE is only visual and MCP's only changes that aren't bug fixes are optionnal. QoL changes aren't vanilla.

I tried using that kind of mod first, but it really destroys the game dude, it has the same effect as booting cheat engine and making you god, you'll bore out of the game in mere hours.

All of that is optional in OpenMW, as well as fixing core engine issues (essentially replacing MCP) and giving a massive boost to performance (no exterior cell loading, instant load screens everywhere). Also it's much, much more moddable in its current state than vanilla is. There's literally no reason to not use OpenMW anymore unless you're really anal about AO/Water Shaders or there's a specific MWSE mod that you can't play without.

post the guide you used to mod it if you used one, please

Can I get a rundown on what openMW is and if I should use it for a first time playthrough?

what are these OpenMW "quality of life" changes?

So there are still a lot of reasons to not use openMW. I 100% support the project and wait impatiently to be able to do everything I can on vanilla, but there are still mwse mods I want to use.

full engine replacement of Morrowind. If you're going pure vanilla, use it. If you're going for a graphical set up but aren't too anal about it, use it (better performance + better potential visuals on some things), if you're going for a graphical set up and really want ambient occlusion and grass, stay on normal morrowind with MGE XE + MCP

I just installed openMW and i much prefer the water and the game runs way smoother, but how do I enable the EAX effects from stock MW?

youtube.com/watch?v=GexxPKwZS5Q
more real time games should have morrowind’s combat system

go look on the website, there's literally too many to list here. I'd say the absolute biggest one though is the insanely big performance gains of it, and the stability. At a 200+ mod load order I had

imagine being the faget who thinks its not cool to like stuff thats older than you

pastebin.com/7gF2VLaf
I used this one that was linked on the /tesg/ site. However, it's takes fucking forever to follow it, and it was last updated in 2016.

>he keeps quitting 15 minutes into his run
the first 2 hours of the game are frustrating due to that combat system, but after that its a normal game again.
your character starts off really weak, but by endgame you're a god

BASED

>Install OpenMW
>want to play in 800x600
>every time I open the game it switches to 1080p
FUCK OFF
FUCK THIS
FUCK OPENMW AND FUCK ZOOMERS

i played actual vanilla like a REAL MAN
had a great time.
just pick a combat skill (long blade, short blade, etc) and try to level that up so you remove most of the RNG
by around 30 skill it wont feel as bad, by 50 the rng is mostly removed

how do you fuck this up
literally just set the resolution in the launcher and launch

>set to 800x600 fullscreen
>launch
>it's 1080p with some 800x600 squashed window in the corner

How can they fuck this up?

you fucked up your text with mods unless you're a retard trying to play a game from 2003 in 4k. And yeah piling on mods won't make it look better, with that much crap from that many different people with nothing to do with each other it's gonna turn out looking like an asset flip and THAT will actually break immersion.

Also you have to ensure you made a character that doesn't suck at everything to start with. If you want you can make a character starting with 40 in a weapon skill and 40 for both strength and agility and you won't have any problems with missing.

It's good if you're not a retarded brainlet.
You aren't a retarded brainlet are you?

More like it never stops being great. Morrowind is a superb video game and superb RPG with a lot going for it. It's beloved for good reason. The early game can be frustrating as you acclimate yourself to the systems and build your character but that just makes your progression all the more rewarding.

I would also like to add openMW doesn't even have fucking shadows yet
there's no way of playing morrowind then? base game runs like shit with microstutters and openMW doesn't work at correct resolution, doesn't have EAX and doesn't even have fucking shadows

morrowind is shit anyway

>openmw doesn't have shadows
yes it does you actual mouthbreather, actually research a bit before you spout stupid shit.

No it doesn't you actual ACTUAL mouthbreather

I booted it up and I'm not seeing any shadows and I'm not seeing any options related to shadows

OpenMW 0.45 changelog
>Shadows are not yet re-implemented

Retard.

not this shit again

Funny how pcfags suddenly hate graphicsfags when someone is being mean about a game they like

>all PCfags are one person

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The difference between Morrowind and console games is that Morrowind looks like from 2002 because it actually is from 2002.