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This is the dumbest fucking response. The atoms push each other apart. As soon as two "atom-thin layers" went to the other wise, intramolecular and intermolecular forces would still apply, and they're thousands of times stronger than any force we can put on the portal falling down.

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The atoms would be crushed into a sheet of infinite density along the horizontal plane, either they would collapse into a singularity or they would be blown apart with an extreme amount of violent force. The idea that two superposed atoms, two atoms placed into the exact same physical point in space, would moderately drift back apart is ridiculous.

So, in a way you're right, but in a way I'm also right, which is why I said "then explodes with the violent force of the nuclear fusion that inevitably follows" Because that's what happens when you take a massive object and compress it to an infinitely small space; that, or it creates an event horizon and collapses in on itself.

what's happening to the air when the orange portal moves?

He should know that in the Portal universe, portals disappear on moving surfaces so the scenario is impossible regardless.

The earth is a moving surface

True but portals on Earth are in the same frame of reference and do not move relative to one ANOTHER.

The moon is a different frame of reference

It's not being compressed to a point, just to a sheet, so actually it would be more like a really strong vertical shear effect. Most, in fact probably all, of the atoms wouldn't actually make nucleus-nucleus contact when pressed into a sheet, so it would just be an atom-thin lattice of the cube's particles that are then shoved apart violently by electromagnetic repulsion.

>in portal universe portals are magical things

Not actually true. The moon's orbit around the earth is synchronous, which is why we never see the dark side of it. It's like the tip of a really tall tower that's made of gravity instead of physical material.

The moon's rotation around earth and rotation around its own axis are synchronized but it isn't synchronized with Earth's rotation rate.

what happens now?

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no but the portal is
retard

>"if i quickly move this hoola hoop around this box, the box will jump in the air!"

cringe

The hula hoop isn't attached to everything on planet Earth. come on, at least put some effort into it.

i finally get it lol, im so dumb. afags were pretending all along, its shitposting. can we stop now?

Fine, you win this round, Afags...
HOWEVER

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The box is closed so we will never know, retard

lets assume you have the technology to create portals and enough energy (infinite) to power them so they can actually move the universe as they move, answer is B.

you dont have portals nor infinite energy? then it can not be A nor B because either are simply impossible.

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that's not how portals work.

>*thump*

Blue portal is smaller than orange portal because it fits into a box that fits into Orange portal which is impossible.

Otherwise, anything going into the edge of Orange will vaporise.

the end of the box pushes against the lid.

if the lid opens or breaks then the end of the box collides with the edge of the orange portal and the box won't go any further.

>because it fits into a box that fits into Orange portal
Think again, my man.

Portals are oblong, not circular. One can easily fit through another.

Based retard

How do portals work? Either they create continuous space or they're matter-transporters that move atoms a sheet at a time. Which means it's either B or "flattened cube", never A.

Mod a map to have this in it and see what happens.

Nope, not in portal 2

>Paradox
There's no paradox, A is objectively correct.
Most people who pick B are shitposters who just want to watch the world burn and piss Afags off, only a minority is actual drooling retards who should be shot on sight.

I remeber showing my physics teacher a picture similar to the thumbnail when I was still in high school. She mentioned that the portal had no velocity thus prior to the portal being lowered down onto it. So she reasoned that the portal would just fall out. It's by no means the definitive answer, but that's what I've put my stock into.
>pic not related

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It creates mustard gas

>All the devs say it's B
>All physicists say it's B
>Random minority of anons claim that Bfags are a shitposting minority
lmao

A is consistent with how the game's physics works, but B is probably more consistent with how real world physics works. The game doesn't have softbody phyics, it doesn't simulate forces on all of the parts of the cube simultaneously, it short-hands the rigid body to a single point. in-game, an object is never actually being affected by forces on both sides of the portal, only ever one or the other.

It works like a hula-hoop

Is everybody forgetting that you come out the portal in the same exact orientation that you went in? That's probably what the paradox the puzzle is trying to show though.

Portals on atomic scale exist irl and they don't need infinite energy to "power" themselves. You don't get to close this thread because you're a clueless fucktard.

forces from one side on the portal don't apply on anything on the other side of the portal, if that were the case, the universe would implode the second you open the portals.

the singularity
youtube.com/watch?v=aLyib_dI_p4

All the more reason to assume that Portals don't actually generate continuous space, they teleport objects one atom-thin sheet at a time onto their pair. Which is exactly why a moving portal would either smash the object down into a superhot flat disc, or at least "shove" the old layers of atoms out of the way of the new ones with the same velocity that the falling portal itself had.

So, again, either B or flattened cube.

no, a, because the second a "layer" of atoms passes through, those begin to be acted upon by forces on the other side of the portal, the portal itself doesn't apply any forces upon anything themselves, so speeding it up or throwing a cube through it result in the same result, which you can actually do in the game, when you gently throw a cube through it, it just plops down to the ground.

Not that guy, but what if the blue portal was horizontal facing upwards? The forces acting upon the layer of atoms would be pulling it back down into the portal. What then?

>the portal itself doesn't apply any forces upon anything themselves
It doesn't have to.

Suppose, for the sake of arguing, that the way a portal actually works is it instantaneously moves atoms and other subatomic particles from one point on its surface to a matching point on its pair, using some fancy handwave of quantum entanglement and tunneling or whatever the fuck.

As the orange portal falls, it must first make contact with a single 2D "slice" of the top of the cube, which it transports onto an equivalent part of the blue portal surface. Since the cube has no current momentum/velocity, this sheet of atoms also has no momentum/velocity. It is, in this instant, stationary, resting on the surface of the blue portal.

In the next instant, the orange portal continues to fall, now making contact with the next atom-thin "slice" of the cube that was just below the top. It begins transporting the sheet of atoms onto the corresponding portion of the blue portal surface.

Recall, now, that there is already a sheet of atoms resting in the exact space that this next sheet of atoms is meant to occupy. Either the second sheet of atoms appears over top of the first sheet, fusing these two sheets into a single super-sheet of twice the density, or else the second sheet literally PUSHES the first sheet out of the way by the width of a single atom.

Which of those two things is occurring, would you say?

I always knew A fags were retarded and this proves it

>Afags in the comments
And here I thought Afagging was just ironic shitposting.

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based

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Oh I forgot a hula hoop is a portal

You moron

Fuck physics, that shit is for nerds

milky coins

Game and story segragation

homestuck.com/problem-sleuth/1020

What happens?

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He didn't undersyood the question.

Crushed by your own body, if the strength of the presses are enough.

youtube.com/watch?v=0TZd95BCKMY

you get the succ

Can't place portals on moving objects

What happens if i shoot one portal through a concave lens and another through a convex lens and step through the bigger portal?

Zoomers never played this game.

Once the surface starts moving, the portal disappears.

The a-fag quaking in their boots.

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Do people not realise motion is relative?

The ram won't go through the door, you moron. This is like shoving the door into the ram.

the only thing that needs to be settled is whether Afags should be banned or not

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What is the difference between shoving a door into a ram and shoving a ram into a door?
Also the ram can't stop because the portal keeps moving down, so if the ram is stronger than the door (which is a fair assumption) the door has to break.

>The ram won't go through the door, you moron. This is like shoving the door into the ram.
So the same force?

that's what fucks people's minds: moving portals make shit move AND not move at the SAME TIME relative to the same frame of reference