Bloodborne, Darkest Dungeon and other action games are terrible Lovecraft games...

Better stop consuming products based on his works, then, as a form of protest.

I disagree strongly, I think it's a perfect thematic match. You'd have to explain your stance.

Pathologic is pathetic.

Why do Lovecraft-inspired games need to be identical to his work? There have been a ton of Tolkien inspired works yet none of them are exactly the same. If anything they should distinguish themselves even further.

who gives a shit you gaylord, he was a terrible writer anyways. bloodborne is great and lovecraft is only used as an inspiration, not as a main source

Lovecraft work is shit and he can suck my dick.

Dilate

I can tell you that faggot is not getting my money so I will do as I please. Dilate.

Posts like this crack me up and I have no idea why.

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I don't speak zoomer, you'll have to explain yourself in English.

Stupidity is funny

Poe > Lovecrap

>which the man never recognised as such
Pretty sure he called it that in his letters mentioning tie-in works with CAS and REH.
And Bloodborne is pretty similar to REH's more heroic adaptation.

Kafka > Poe > Lovecraft > King

No, never. His term was "Yog-Sothothery".

Poe>Lovecraft>King>Stephenie Meyer>Kafka

Rude!

I vaguely recall the term "shared mythos" or possibly mythology.
Cab't be arsed looking through his letters though.

Having ideas in their works that were inspired by Lovecraft does not mean that are representing or interpreting Lovecraft in any different way. Inspiration and trying to present the same thing in a different story are two different ideas. You really need to read a fucking book.

Also, if Eldritch is the only thing that comes to mind when you think Lovecraft, then you haven't actually read Lovecraft.

Who gives a fuck about Lovecraft.

Pathologic does its own thing and excels at it, stop trying to find gay parallels to your incel writer's work

>The best Lovecraft game ever is Pathologic, without even trying to be one.

Try Darkness Within 1. Really good game.

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You're an incel writer's work in Pathologic

I don't think you're entirely wrong but I still wouldn't describe Pathologic as Lovecraftian. The most Lovecraftian thing in Pathologic would be the Polyhedron.

Who asked you tranny? Try to push that 41% up to 42%. That is the only written record there will be about the fact that you lived.

Fidel to Lovecraft or not I think Bloodborne did a great job at evoking that eldritch vibe and I've yet to see a game with creepy monsters that good looking and animated.

>HP Lovecraft would be terribly angry if he saw how his works are being misinterpreted.
No way; he loved anyone paying any attention to his works. Derleth raped his concepts and he still liked the guy. And Lovecraft was certainly good friends with the man most of these games actually resemble: Robert E. Howard. The guy had a similar style of fiction to Lovecraft, but much more action oriented, with the idea being that, even though these beings are completely beyond humans, a human can still claw their way to defeating them with their dying breath. Conan is underrated as fuck. You're right about everything else you said though.

Is pathologic even in a playablr state or is it still that weirdly translated ruski gaem

It's extremely playable. Even got a Resident Evil tier remake of it done.

I have come to call you an insufferable cunt user
>Pathologic is lovecraftian
How retarded do you have to be to say that and how retarded do you have to be to even need to say durr this is lovecraftian hurr this is this other thing

Pathologic thread?

Need your advice. I just finished OG Pathologic's bachelors path. It took me some mere 50 hours, and while I'm really interested in the story, I just need to take a break from this game (I think anyone who played it knows what I mean). But P2 looks fresh and interesting, and what's more important they decided to release Garuspeak's path first, so theoretically it should be right up my alley. So what do you think? Should I wait and finish og Pathologic, or jump right into the second one?

If you finished Bachelor already then you are probably good to play 2.

Go into the 2nd. The first one is too clunky after a playthrough.

It wasn't even playable as in its original Russian state. Being unplayable is a part of their metanarrative. You can't finish the game just as you can't defeat the Plague.

Go straight into the new one, it's great

Howard wrote his stories in normal English as opposed to medieval gibberish.

The Plague is the most Lovecraftian thing. It's cosmic horror at its best, very similar to the Colour out of Space.

Lovecraft was married. Dybowski is an actual incel who made a game about naked waifus.

Wow, solid! Thanks guys.

Should I play the original in poor living conditions and no job prospect ?

I think you need to learn to speak coherent English before accusing other people of mental retardation.

>Garuspeak
Is that how they translated it? Holy shit, this is a new low.

It's Haruspex, Haruspices were Roman priests who divined the future from the spilled innards of sacrificed cattle.

How would that be different from your normal playthrough?

The official translation is Harusuplex.

I just used the original Russian name for him, too lazy too google it in English

Should I do every event in Day 2 in P2? Because I wasted too much time trying to hoard food and stuff.

did you even read call of cthulhu you moron

sasuga

>Dybowski is an actual incel who made a game about naked waifus
Based as fuck.

>it's another "braindead fans trying to shill a shitty game" episode
Fucking summer reruns, I swear.

the game is intentionally designed so you don't have enough time to do everything
You need to have your own priorities on what is important and what isn't

bloodborne never claims to be a lovecraft game
its just one of many inspirations
dumbass

It's called The Void. Don't play this game even if your American mind could digest Pathologic. This one frustrated even Russians.

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How? The plague is able to be combated, can even be cured by shit kids made, the cure is entirely earthly, there's no alien stuff from outer space, it's not a cosmic horror by any definition.

I think there's an easy patch for The Void. Also Typгop (the original Russian version) is way harder than western release.

Pathologic 2 is a lot of things, but it sure as FUCK isn't devoid of action, or Lovecraftian.

Pathologic is a pure magical realism. It nests in the exact same genre as Cortazar, Kafka, Schulz or Bulghakov - or if you want cinemating and game examples: Twin Peaks or Kentucky Route Zero.
The closest tie that Pathologic has to Lovecraft is that it is heavily inspired by Borges, who did happen to be a big Lovecraftian fan, even though ultimately even his attempts to write intentionally Lovecraftian stories ended up being something completely distinct and unique.

It's the exact opposite, actually. Have you played the damn game? It's as deeply comprihensible and intimately familiar to people as death is. It's just an abstraction of faucets of our life we actually constantly encounter in our lives. Hell, it's fucking FRIENDLY at times.

"Cosmos" doesn't mean the outer space in Lovecraft's works. It's the entirety of existence. He often writes explicitly about parallel dimensions rather than the outer space.

DO NOT get the fucking easy patch for The Void. Jesus. This shit really needs to die.

A) The Void's NARRATIVE IS ENTIRELY BUILD UPON THE GAME'S MECHANICS, INCLUDING THE DIFFICULTY.
B) the Patch is broken and will make the game near-impossible to finish. So not only you will miss the point, you'll still end up incredibly frustrated.

So what IS the plague? I know that there's no answer because I played the game. You need to play it at least twice to realise that, that may be why you don't.
>it's fucking FRIENDLY at times
So exactly like the Lovecraftian entities?

TL;DR: just don't play The Void with or without the patch, it's too pretentious and the naked girl models didn't age well.

>So what IS the plague?
pixels on a screen

Oh no, by any means, play it. It's great. It's less impressive today, after Pathologic 2 came out and basically canibalized a LOT of what made The Void so unique, but it's still beautiful and fairly clever.

Fucking plebs

>I know that there's no answer because I played the game
No, you actually just did not get the game. What the plague is depends more or less on what philosophy you adopt, but all three (arguably fourth) are comprehensible.

>So exactly like the Lovecraftian entities?
Tell me where in lovecraftian mythos you'll find the monsters doubting their purpose, befriending little girls, negotiating with their victims, self-reflecting.
The Plague does all of that.

Above everything else, the plague is just the acknowledgement of a certain inherent paradox that was generally understood by every culture in the world: the opposition of transcendental and natural. Depending on the perspective of the actor, it can be seen as an obstactle to solve the paradox, or a reminder of it's inherent unsolvability.
Either way: it's just death. The limitation of physicality. The shit that curbs human existence to failable, fragile biology.

That is not plebs, that is the correct answer.
Kafka > Poe > Lovecraft > King indeed. Anyone who isn't desperately sucking the dick of genre fiction will tell you this. Claiming ANYTHING else is plebeian a fuck.

I would actually expand it by Schulz > Kafka > Poe > Lovecraft > King, but most people sadly don't know the horrifying joys of this polish sad sod.

I'm surprised anyone else still here remembers it.

>the metaphysical reaction to the pain the giant bull that created the world is suffering/maybe Suok itself[ trying to kill the Bull God from the inside/spoiler]
>not cosmic horror

>thinking kafka belongs here
>thinks poe is even in the same league as lovecraft
>READS KING
die

But what if death was really an alien the whole time?

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1. That's not cosmic horror.
2. That's not what the plague really is.

>the Plague is what you perceive it to be
That's a-posteriori. But what is the Plague a-priori, can you answer that? Nobody can answer that, here's actually as good an answer as anyone can give: >self-reflecting
Through the Gate of the Silver Key
>negotiating with their victims
Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
>befriending little girls
That's way too specific. But they can befriend people, sure.

>the opposition of transcendental and natural. Depending on the perspective of the actor, it can be seen as an obstactle to solve the paradox, or a reminder of it's inherent unsolvability.
You speak complete gibberish so well that it makes me wonder if you're Dybowski himself
>Either way: it's just death.
So, an unknowable force of nature? Thank you. This is what I have been waiting for.

Kafka is a hack who didn't even bother to finish his stories (and not even the ones that are explicitly unfinished). He lucked out by publishing his works around the period when people were desperately hungry for depression and misery.

For what it's worth, Lovecraft wrote a lot of stories that are very blatant copies of Poe. And since Poe also liked to write the same story several times with a slight change in setting, yeah, you could compare them.

Kafka is overrated self pity garbage. Poe is pretentious higher than thou bullshit. King is an absolute joke writer. Read more in different genres.

>That's a-posteriori. But what is the Plague a-priori, can you answer that? Nobody can answer that,
Well, yeah. STUPID questions generally do not have answers.

>You speak complete gibberish so well that it makes me wonder if you're Dybowski himself
Hilarious that you are claiming to understand a work but think the author makes no sense.
But it's not gibberish, unlike your demand for apriori truth.

>So, an unknowable force of nature?
Two fucking problems with that: A) Lovecraft is the opposite of "force of nature" and B) death is something we know quite fucking intimately.

The most cosmic horror entities are not aliens, but self-aware principles of existence itself. The aliens are barely above humans in Lovecraft's hierarchy.

Jesus, where the fuck did this pleb come from?

It's fucking depressing that contemporary education and general nurturing philosophies raises garbage like you: dull little cunts who don't have even the most basic notions of respect and self-awareness. Fuck off. You really do not have what it takes to discuss literature, you are waaaay too insecure and arrogant for that. You literally are physically unable to recognize good literature.

You act like those games are intended to be Lovecraft games and not just games inspired by his work. They’re not trying to make 1:1 adaptions of Shadows Over Innsmouth, they clearly just took design elements and atmosphere from a very interesting mythos.

I’ve done this shit too many times, but it’s also completely incorrect to say there’s no action in HPL’s work. His entire Dreamland cycle is quite action-packed, there’s Imprisoned with the Pharaohs, Dunwich Horror involves scientists straight up fighting back against said horror, Shunned House has the being dissolved by fucking acid, Thing on Doorstep BEGINS with the bad guy getting shot in the fucking face, and Charles Dexter Ward also involves the antagonist getting BTFO. You can fight in Lovecraft’s work, but there will always be a great cost to your sanity or humanity, both of which are true of Darkest Dungeon and Bloodborne. So suck a dick you contrarian faggot.

He was friends with Robert E. Howard, you know the guy that wrote Conan? And some of those stories had Conan beat the shit out of Lovecraftian entities.

>Well, yeah. STUPID questions generally do not have answers.
That's a STUPID statement on every level.
>Hilarious that you are claiming to understand a work but think the author makes no sense.
You can like certain things about the author and dislike certain others. Dybowski has good ideas and is a good storyteller, but he's also extremely pretentious and likes to speak in pseudointellectual gibberish.
>Lovecraft is the opposite of "force of nature"
Plain wrong.
>death is something we know quite fucking intimately.
I guess you've died a couple of times already?

>His entire Dreamland cycle is quite action-packed
Other than a bunch of scenes in the Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath - nah.
>Imprisoned with the Pharaohs
Walking past mutant mummies is action now?
>Dunwich Horror involves scientists straight up fighting back against said horror
By reading a book in its face!
>Shunned House has the being dissolved by fucking acid
Call the Hong Kong choreographers
>getting shot in the fucking face
How can you handle Agatha Cristie stories with all their hectic action?
>Charles Dexter Ward also involves the antagonist getting BTFO
Off screen. By reading a book in his face!
>So suck a dick you contrarian faggot.
I promise I will as soon as you bring one example that you didn't pull out of your ass.

I don't know about the other two, but Bloodborne just took inspiration from Lovecraft. It is not his mythos or an interpretation of his stories at all. You do know what it means to be inspired by something, right?

All that rambling without a single argument. Projecting much, user? Don't worry, you'll grow up eventually.

>That's a STUPID statement on every level.
You are asking for apriory understanding, you moron. Do you even know what that word means? Do you know ANYTHING about epistemology in general?

>You can like certain things about the author and dislike certain others. Dybowski has good ideas and is a good storyteller, but he's also extremely pretentious and likes to speak in pseudointellectual gibberish.
Again, says the person using the word "apriory" without knowing what it means. People in glass houses should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>Plain wrong.
The whole horror of Lovecraft comes from confrontation with unnatural, you god damn mongoloid. Did you even read HIS stories?

>I guess you've died a couple of times already?
And again, making up bullshit conditions that you don't even understand just to make yourself more obtuse. Fuck off, kid.

Agreed about Bloodborne, because it's clearly a Lovecraft game.
Darkest Dungeon not so much. That one is dark fantasy.

nothing you've said disproves that those games are inspired by Lovecraft and not actual Lovecraft-games
there are plenty of Lovecraft-games that use his actual characters and gods like that shitty game last year that everyone forgot about already

That's the least of which Lovecraft would be angry about in this day and age. In any way he wrote some fantastic, is a bit overdetailed pieces but he was apparently a pretty terrible person even if he didn't share that with anyone. I don't think pleasing him should be anyone's priority in life.

>"""lovecraftian game"""
>DUDE TENTACLES LMAO
has anyone got it right?

>can't stress enough, no action

So I guess you've never actually read a Lovecraft story, you'd be aware that plenty of times characters take action, or use action and violence against the monstrosities (and sometimes even succeed)

oblique HPL references do not them Lovecraft games.

He also haven't played Pathologic. He is a moron that has the audacity to call others pretentious while spouting the most pretentious bullshit imaginable.

It's a shame to see a pathologic 2 thread in such a sad, sorry context. The game is very good, it does not deserve to be associate with this kind of trash.

Lovecraft wasn't a very good writer, and if you legitimately think he was better than Poe or Kafka, you are the actual unironic pleb

Kafka is "Literary Modernism: The Writer". It is THE trope codifier for more or less everything self-referential, meta, fourth-wall breaking in today's art.

More or less the point of his writing is that you (as human being in general) aren't able to describe, ever, free will through any words, gestures or their combinations whatsoever, KAFKA'S WRITINGS INCLUDED (there is the aforementioned meta motif). Conversely, what you CAN describe is by and large whatever limits one's capacity to EXPRESS said free will. That's for one.

Thus, by writing a literary work the writer necessarily restricts his freedom of self-expression provided his work doesn't contradict itself.

However, and this is a second point, it's not really possible to write yourself in the corner, however strict adherence to self-consistency, since at any moment whatsoever the writer is free to change the topic by means of describing and introducing whatever haven't been described previously in the same work.

Thus, his writings are perpetual escape from the "internal logic" of the work through the means of invention/novelty, as an exercise at expression of Kafka's free of will.

Looks to me like you just moved the goalposts

Pathologic

Call of Cthulhu? Sinking City?

He was a fantastic person with a million friends and beloved by everyone who knew him. He was also an enormous bigot, racist and American ultranationalist.

>Do you know ANYTHING about epistemology in general?
No, clearly I know nothing because you said so.
>Did you even read HIS stories?
No, clearly I know nothing because you said so.
>making up bullshit conditions that you don't even understand
No, clearly I know nothing because you said so.

You're so mind-bogglingly obnoxious that I'm wondering how nobody killed you IRL thus far.

In other words, his works consiat of myriads of tiny "Deus Ex Machina"s.

They are probably the most thorough fuckyous to Le Classicke Tragedies ever conceived and written down.

>crying after his favorite writers were insulted
>not insecure and arrogant
hm

>Kafka is "Literary Modernism: The Writer".
What the fuck am I reading?
Oh, it's Yea Forums, never mind

>Kafka is "Literary Modernism: The Writer". It is THE trope codifier for more or less everything self-referential, meta, fourth-wall breaking in today's art.
No?
Like: really, really, really fucking NO. I don't know what third fucking rate community collage "Literature 101 as seen by college drop-out" has taught you this shit, but fucking fucking HELL that is bad.
You should really, really ask for your money back. This is some of the worst fucking projection and bullshit interpretation of his work I've ever seen, I've dedicate two years just to finding the most amusingly terrible mis-interpretations of his work. Like this is next to radical marxist interpretation of Trial as the embodiment of class conflict. Maybe even worse for fuck sake.

>Pathologic threads turn Yea Forums into Yea Forums
Fascinating.

Calling people out on being assholes isn't sign of insecurity. Saying "I don't get it therefor everyone ELSE IS WRONG" is. That is in fact, fucking mental.
You are the one screeching that someone is a hack because you don't get his work. For fuck sake, get some fucking self-awareness.

you are insecure and arrogant, yes that is what i was saying

>No, clearly I know nothing because you said so.
Oh my god.
Are you TWELVE?
What kind of fucking response is this? God dammit Yea Forums, you never cease to amaze me.

Next time people refuse to argue with you in good faith, consider that maybe it's because you're such a shitty person that the interaction with you is physically draining.

>you are insecure and arrogant, yes that is what i was saying
You don't see me decrying some of the most well-respected authors in the history here. I'm not the one with the problem here kid. YOU fucking think yourself smarter than literally thousands of people better educated than you.

It's really not that hard to comprehend. Assuming EVERYONE ELSE is wrong is arrogant and sigh of serious self-esteem issues.
Telling someone that is the case is not.

This should not have to be explained.

lmao take a fucking look at yourself

I don't fucking refuse to argue, but jesus christ do you KNOW what you wrote? I asked you just that question. Do you actually fucking know what an "apriori knowledge" is? And where it stands relative to modern epistemologies?

That is not refusal to argue in good faith, that is a genuine fucking concern that something incredibly important is clearly missing here.

so, the same shit board just with different flavored loser insecurities?

Okay, if Poe is, according to Yea Forums's literary critics, a bad author, then who's actually good? I swear if someone says Pynchon, I'm gonna laugh like a rabid monkey.

Yeah, some points sure do happen to fly above your head.

KAFKA DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CULTURE OR WHATEVER LITERARY TRADITION
KAFKA IS THE FIRST WRITER I KNOW OF TO COMPLETELY DISREGARD ANY PRECEDING LITERARY TRADITIONS AND TO WRITE FROM A STRICTRLY COMMONSENSICAL (and admittedly HIGHLY self-conscious) POINT OF VIEW
That is a point of view of his PERSONAL SUBJECTIVE common sense.

NO FUCKING TRADITION will ever teach you to understand anything whatsoevet about the most explicit solitary literary genius is the entire history of literature because his works are means to be judged STRICTLY ON HOW READER VIEWS STRICTLY THEIR OWN MERITS.

No amount of UUUH this dude wrote that in like 1754 will tell you JACK about Kafka as individual. Kafka's writings will tell you something about Kafka as individual.

You know why? Because they are self-referential. Because their style, their downright syntax contains vital keys for correctly interpreting the litetal part of them. Because the literal part is simply metaphors for the stylistic quirks of what was written slightly earlier (I didn't mention Kafka being extremely selfconscious for nothing!). Because, in Kafka, SYNTAX _IS_ SUBTEXT. And yes, this is a hallmark of - not modernist - CONTEMPORARY art. And Kafka is THE one who coined it and owned it. His works are sometging like fractals. I guess, at least this simile will be somewhat comprehensible toMUH ACADEMY retard as you evidently are.

Intellect is no wisdom. You seem to be lacking in the latter.

Those points did not fly over my head, retard, they are just patently untrue. Kafka is extremely conventional in his writing, actually, though not in his subject matter.

Have you ever heard of Joyce? Dostojevski? Not ringing a bell? Jesus fucking Christ kid. The rest is literal fucking nonsense, it reads like something out of fucking Derrida - and all of it is predicated on ignorance of absolutely basic literary history.

Kafka is fucking cool, but JESUS this is absolute fucking garbage.

Nigga I don't care what some fucktard racist from the 1800's thinks about Bloodborne. He's dead. I'd play it on his grave.

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Yeah, some points sure do happen to fly above your head.

KAFKA DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CULTURE OR WHATEVER LITERARY TRADITION
KAFKA IS THE FIRST WRITER I KNOW OF TO COMPLETELY DISREGARD ANY PRECEDING LITERARY TRADITIONS AND TO WRITE FROM A STRICTRLY COMMONSENSICAL (and admittedly HIGHLY self-conscious) POINT OF VIEW
That is a point of view of his PERSONAL SUBJECTIVE common sense.

NO FUCKING TRADITION will ever teach you to understand anything whatsoevet about the most explicit solitary literary genius is the entire history of literature because his works are means to be judged STRICTLY ON HOW READER VIEWS STRICTLY THEIR OWN MERITS.

No amount of UUUH this dude wrote that in like 1754 will tell you JACK about Kafka as individual. Kafka's writings will tell you something about Kafka as individual.

You know why? Because they are self-referential. Because their style, their downright syntax contains vital keys for correctly interpreting the litetal part of them. Because the literal part is simply metaphors for the stylistic quirks of what was written slightly earlier (I didn't mention Kafka being extremely selfconscious for nothing!). Because, in Kafka, SYNTAX _IS_ SUBTEXT. And yes, this is a hallmark of - not modernist - CONTEMPORARY art in general. And Kafka is THE one who coined it and owned it. His works are something like fractals. I guess, at least this simile will be somewhat comprehensible to MUH ACADEMY retard as you evidently are.

Intellect is no wisdom. You seem to be lacking in the latter.

Being inspired by something is not the same as "misinterpreting" it you fucking aspie.

inspired by =/= adaptation
stupid faggot

You want real lovecraftian horrors, you should see my ex wife. Haha.

You want to see REAL Lovecraftian horrors, you should see my wife. She's unknowable

not him, but the unknown/unknowable doesn't perform the same function in Pathologic
Worms aren't some innsmouth horror three degrees removed from uncaring space gods
with inscrutable motives
Fear of insanity through knowledge/truth really isn't a major theme in Pathologic
Pathologic's tone is more in line with Camus or Tolstoy than lovecraft, and it's more of a mix than an implementation of a single literary subgenere

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I think even Miyazaki explained that Bloodborne was INSPIRED by Lovecraft's work. The premise BB presents isn't anything explored by Lovecraft.

Fuck. Disregard this.

Second. Dial down on gaslighting (oh uhhh u fuking imagined it yeah uh didnt objectively hapen uhh u musta be tiaid o something or no literary laik mi), right about now, if you want this conversation to continue. If I am talking to a self-conscious scumbag then I believe I have given you more than enough attention already.

Now, to properly answer you due to benefit of the doubt.

1. Some works are meant to be read in a self-referential way. Point in case, Garden of Forking Paths (story itself) by Borges. Point in case, Rasen/Spiral by Koji Suzuki. Point in case FUCKING KAFKA. Only in Kafka's case it is much harder to spot simply because Kafka was an ACTUAL LITERARY GENIUS.

Second. I quite fail to see just what exactly retarded Suda-worthy Joyce's brainfarts have to do with Kafka's writings at fucking all.

Third. About conventionality. Kafka is pretty much the ur-atmospherefag. We are talking about him in the thread dedicated to the game, that simply wouldn't fucking exist without his writings.

Fourth. NO AMOUNT OF BASIC LITERARY HISTORY WILL DO YOU ANY GOOD WITH KAFKA because his writings are WRITTEN FROM WRITER'S SUBJECTIVE COMMONSENSICAL PERSPECTIVE and are meant to be PERCEIVED FROM READER'S SUBJECTIVE COMMONSENSICAL PERSPECTIVE. With all the keys necessary for deciphering text's semantics being embedded in text's syntax.

>Pathologic thread
>come into it expecting, surprisingly, Pathologic
>fucktard pseuds arguing about fucking kafka
I had no hopes and still I'm disappointed. Have an elf.

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Bloodborne isn't a "lovecraft game", just because something is inspired by lovecraft's ideas doesn't mean they are trying to be faithful to any of his material.

it's 'a priori'. Please don't go saying silly things like apriory when a neokantian might be nearby.

Lovecraft is shit fuck off comparing it to Pathologic

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>Worms aren't some innsmouth horror three degrees removed from uncaring space gods
If anything, worms really are strikingly similar to the Innsmouth people, because both are fucked up looking people with fucked up ancient traditions.
>Fear of insanity through knowledge/truth really isn't a major theme in Pathologic
This theme is really overblown in the Lovecraftian discourse compared to the actual stories, his characters usually don't go mad, but are considered mad by the society because they learned the truth that nobody else can accept.
>Pathologic's tone is more in line with Camus or Tolstoy
Camus I see, but Tolstoy? really? How?

>tfw no Bachelor/Clara storylines

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>worms really are strikingly similar to the Innsmouth people
the way the worms are deployed, as in you don't discover them as some hidden away horror, but they are a part of the town's labour, commerce and ecosystem
>This theme is really overblown
this general point is arguable, bure moreover that theme is iconic. Something without it needs greater evidence elsewhere to make the comparison.
>Tolstoy?
You can say Dostoevski if you like but the subplots of the aristocrats and how they fit into the overall picture is what reminded me

Saya no uta is the best Lovecraft-inspired game.

>the way the worms are deployed, as in you don't discover them as some hidden away horror, but they are a part of the town's labour, commerce and ecosystem
Same as Innsmouthers, then? They're not a hidden away horror, they're the population of Innsmouth and regularly go shopping/selling fish to nearby towns. Innsmouth has hidden horrors, but you have to snoop around to find them. So does the City.
>You can say Dostoevski if you like but the subplots of the aristocrats and how they fit into the overall picture is what reminded me
That particular theme resonates really well with The Shadow over Innsmouth, as it is ruled by a bunch of ancient families with political and ritual responsibilities. just like the City.

Not to mention that the City resembles Innsmouth visually, both being made of decaying brick houses, divided by a river and surrounded by a bleak plain. This is accidental for sure, there's no way they were actually thinking that. But the similarity is striking.

>all these retards talking about Lovecraft being racist and missing OP's point completely
Who gives a fuck if he was racist or not you fucking autists? Guess what: most people that time were racist. Probably at least one of your great-grandparents were racist aswell so how about killing yourselves to protest against their sins?

>Same as Innmouthers
Different vector. In Lovecraft, the freaks are in/cross-breds. That is, essentially, post-humans. In Pathologic, worms/steppenbrides are, on the contrary, essentially protohumans.

>Not to mention that the City resembles Innsmouth visually
Let's look at it from another perspective. Does City from Pathologic Classic HD resemble Innsmouth from Dark Corners of the Earth in any way?

Moreover, keep in mind, that Shadow over Innsmouth is not a whatever Lovecraft cannon fodder story. It has a centerpiece, the escape scene, which is strictly about putting the reader in protagonist's shoes, making you live his thought process. The entire work is thus essentially built around you "being" there, "seeing" through protagonist's eyes. Innsmouth itself is built around moment-to-moment impressions it is meant to evoke in both protagonist AND you. It is "built" from ground (sensations) up (concept).
Pathologic, at least, in its initial iteration, is clearly the case of exactly the opposite (at least, a in a form of a VERY pronounced undercurrent). There is a plan, you have a map, the parts fit. There is a highbrow theatric play taking place after all. No place for either soot or stink of rotten fish.

The innsmouth hybrids are weird, but you don't immediately know they are half-breeds. The worms are obviously not human. Their relationship to the ecosystem is also not limited to things humans do, like selling fish.

>That particular theme resonates really well
ancient families is a bit if a generic overlay. A parallel, in a way, but every town has a ruling structure and a history. Innsmouth doesn't really turn plot points on that interfactional engagement. My earlier point about needing themes other than iconic ones needing real elaboration comes to mind here, because the 3 ruling families are the fulcrum for a lot of human drama that contrasts with the fantastical darkness threatening the town, compared to a cult of sacrifice

The look and feel might certainly cross-pollinate, it's just the themes that are dissonant.

>he would probably hate video games in general
Most likely.

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It's pretty evident you haven't read shit about him, except for the basic shit.

I LOVE MURKY

user, you sound like an obnoxious dickhead and I'm saying that with the best of intentions. Do something about it.

don't take me or yourself so seriously. How are you supposed to reaction when someone who says 'apriory' is so righteous