Do you think game directors drawing from personal experience in their youth makes for better writing in games?
Do you think game directors drawing from personal experience in their youth makes for better writing in games?
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I think people care too much about creators in general
I just consume the product dont care who made it or why, it doesnt matter
WHEN I WAS
kojima is the type of dude to play airsoft once and then think he knows everything about military operations
I never liked that song, the only good part is the last part.
Based
Kojima was like 44 years old when that song came out
What about this version?
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Or watch an arthouse film and then think he's an auteur?
I was referencing the lyrics.
Why are you talking for me? That freaked me out.
Kojima actually spends the money on hiring experts for that kind of stuff though. Didn't he hire some mercenary bodyguard for the Dalai Lama for MGSV to make sure the guns were proper?
MCR gets a pass
ANOTHER COG IN THE MURDER MACHINE
idk, I know he for sure hired someone to take a high-res scan of Joosten's feet though.
Yes, Kojima hires people knowledgeable in their field. You can see them in the credits.
To answer, that is just a bunch of songs laced together.
ZOOMERS SCARE THE LIVING SHIT OUTTA ME
Kojima is the type of dude to look up the definition of the word "meme" just to pretend he knew the actual usage of the word.
>let kojimbo do all kinds of sick shit to her
>gets discarded like a used jizz rag
>will probably never get a job again
WHY KOJIMA?
WELL IF YOU WANTED HONESTY,
THATS ALL YOU HAD TO SAY
GOAT MCR song passing through
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BUUUUUUUUUURNING ON
JUST LIKE A MATCH YOU STRIKE TO INCINERATE
THE LIVES
OF EVERY ONNNEE
YOOOUUU
KNEWWWW
MAMA WE ALL GO TO HELL
Yeah, it does. Famous authors do it all the time, I don't see why a video game should be different.
TRUST ME
I'M NOT OKAAAAAAAAAAAAY
>consume
GTFO with your pop culture cliché.
You don't "consume" media you fucking mongoloid. You consume food, you consume water, you consume medications, you PLAY vidya, you LISTEN to music, you READ books, you WATCH TV...
Got it, you retarded pop culture monkey?
Gerard KILLED Hazy Shade of Winter what a jam
A videogame director is not the writer, daft cunt
MCR is kino. Its a shame gerard way is off being gerard gay and so they'll never play together again.
>Black Parade
Superior version:
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Yeah but the evidence is analogical.
I hope she sucked dry kojima’s chink little balls, because quiet was the worst fucking thing about mgsv
He's directing and co-writing.
GIVE ME A SHOT TO REMEMBER
A YOUNG BOY
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YOU ARE NO MORE POTENT THAN WORDS THAT CHOKE ME
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superior song
Quiet wasn't even bad, let alone the worst thing. That said, I bet she had to at least give kojambles a handy.
MY FATHER
With his smoking hot wife? Yeah fuck that dude. But for real I don't want them back together. They said what they had to say if they made more music it would be the definition of SOULLESS. They know they can't top TBP.
MY FATHER
RAPED ME
...They gave us two shots to the back of the head... and... were... all... dead... nooooow
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Gerard's still got it
i was a part of a different crowd when this music was new, so i naturally made fun of and shunned kids who liked MCR. they're not bad, now that i'm older and more subjective
also, didnt this nigga litterally create penni parker and the spider-eva?
I AM NOT AFRAID TO KEEP ON LIVING
I AM NOT AFRAID TO WALK THIS WORLD ALONE
I think Gerard can make Gerard songs just fine. But I dont think he could do MCR anymore.
He did, you are correct.
shame TBP was an amazing record but it came out a time when MCR was labelled as emo instead of pop punk and so it got memed into being thought of as bad.
NEVER COMING HOME NEVER COMING HOME
>Or watch an arthouse film and then think he's an auteur?
Or, you know, make some of the most influential and well known games of all time taking inspiration from arthouse movies, I'd say that makes him more of a fucking auteur than most other people.
Was MCR the inspiration for THE SKULLS PARASITE UNIT?
Best MCR album coming through
I still listen to old MCR (Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge/Welcome to the Black Parade) pretty regularly. Hits that sweet spot of being a faster paced song without being metal
>The Black Parade was 13 years ago
The album was literally boo hoo I hate my job and my gf broke up with me emo.
>You have achieved nothing in those 13 years
>The End. transitioning into Dead!
>"AND WITHOUT YOU IS HOW I DISAPPEAR"
>"A light to burn all the empires-- so bright the sun is ashamed to rise and be"
>That fucking guitar on Mama.
>That FUCKING. GUITAR. ON. SLEEP.
>I AM NOT AFRAID
>TO KEEP ON LIVING
>I AM NOT AFRAID
>TO WALK THIS WORLD ALONE
Literally HOW can you deny this album is anything but KINO?1
>Implying Three Cheers wasn't the same thing
Besides, I like the Bonnie and Clyde story with 9/11 sadness mixed in with vampires.
Fake news, delete this right now.
anyone else exposed to mcr from amv hell?
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mah nigga, AMV Hell 4 was the best one.
The fuck are you talking about Three Cheers was a concept album about a deal with the devil.
Doesn't matter what the concept was. It was literally THE emo album.
WHEN YOUR HEAD FEELS THE WAKE OF THE SORROW
SWORE TO ME THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITHOUT
Anyone read Gerard Way's run on Doom Patrol here?
Yes. It's probably the largest problem in media today how it's all based on itself. Early video games didn't have anything to base on so there was no limit to the imagination, they used d&d, movies, books, short stories, real life and funneled all that into an original game. Nowadays games are made by people obsessed with video games making games that are like the games they grew up playing. They don't think critically of every aspect of the game, most things are decided because that's what other games do. They'll copy an idea and change a few things so it seems fresh. Same shit with anime, every single anime now is just a collection of character tropes, there's hardly any depth to any character or story.
But it's also a problem of modern times, a 15 year old today has seen thousands of movies, shows, played hundreds of games, watched countless youtube analysts pull apart every story and scene in dozens of movies. The standard for quality narrative material is rising fast. People these days are becoming incredibly narratively intelligent. We'll see a movie like Prometheus and fall asleep of boredom, while a lot of the plot is retarded there's still amazing craftsmanship in the movie and any person from the '80's of whatever would shit themselves over a movie like that.
Actually the first well-thought out answer in the thread
So, there is no "reality" in the young minds since their experiences are being thought/expected through the filter of someone else's fictional form of reality.
Kids watch lets say Youtube, Kids think thats "partially" real and therefor most also happen to them.
Not disagreeing, i like your point i just want to understand it better
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY WHEN WE MET YOU TOLD ME IT GETS HARDER
WELL IT DID
He's saying games nowadays are just rehashes because the developers only draw on the video games that came before since there's a wealth of information about them, but nothing else outside of them, so the final product is just some tired tropefest. Thus the cycle repeats ad infinitum. Good games that bring something fresh to the scene tyoucally have influences outside of mass media.
TOOK ME INTO THE CITY
Yes, take Miazaki of FROM Software.
The storytelling/world building methods he uses (vague lore, cryptic dialogue and item descriptions) are based off his childhood reading western fantasy novels. He didn't understand all the words so he just filled in what he couldn't read with his imagination. Miyazaki found it entertaining so he incorporated it into his games
>I KNOW YOU DON'T WORK HERE ANYMORE
>I KNOW YOU DON'T WORK HERE
>ANYMOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEE
>SOMETIMES I THINK I'LL DIE ALONE
>SOMETIMES I THINK I'LL DIE ALONE
>SOMETIMES I THINK I'LL DIE ALONE
>LIVE AND BREATHE AND DIE ALONE
This thread is an example of why places like reddit are so bad. Without dissenting opinions to remind you your taste is trash you might actually start to think this shit is good.
Wtf is gerard the original incel
>Youth
He was in his 30s when MCR's Black Parade came out. Fuck off.
i've never even listened to mcr but all i can associate it with is that awful harry potter fanfic where everybody is goth
IM NOT OKAAAAAAAAAY
It's why modern Simpsons is shit partially. Current writers grew up watching the Simpsons and pull from that to write the Simpsons leading to low quality attempts to emulate the original writers and flanderized characters. Flanders is now based off the character Flanders not some outside influence.
>hipster cope
don't be such a fag
Look at this consumer.
>my chemical romance
Fuck off with that I’M SO DARK AND EDGY shit and listen to something actually dark.
H A V E
S E X
just gonna leave this here
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oh look, its entry level black metal kid trying to be tough on anime website
SO DARKEN YOUR CLOTHES
MAYBE THEYLL LET YOU SHITPOST
BUT NOT
ME
>Not Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
He's just being ironic. The first song on that album is titled Funeral Song.
Seems like someone consumed your brain.
It may be entry level but it also good. Black metal is niche anyway unlike my fag romance.
TBP was their best album consistency wise
That's cuz MCR was more than just Gerard.
0 was
Holy shit. What a fag.
YOU ARE
NEVER COMING HOME
NEVER COMING HOME
I used to be a rock star, you know...
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
He was always a stocky stubby fuck, how tall is he?
I PLAYED THE SILVER BALL
>my chemical romance
Did people actually listen to this? I miss when Judas Priest was popular
Somehow looks my my younger brother if he was 12 and fat.
You're 12, stop larping as someone in their 40s.
its good because its niche, got it!
>Old Gerard looks more like young Gerard
What did he mean by this
Judas Priest is far superior though
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A YOUNG WARTHOG
>my chemical romance
I knew it, most of Yea Forums is women or trannies. They’re not metal
hell I still would
IT BEGINS WITH THEM
BUT IT ENDS WITH ME
THEIR SON
V A X I S
>they’re not metal
so if you're not metal you're a tranny?
or you mean that you can't like metal if you like mcr?
Post only good album below this post
metal is for extremely fat/skinny greasy retard weirdos
No, youre just a fucking zoomer. We've had MCR posting threads since the album came out. Not even a newfag would say this shit
COME RIDE WITH ME
THROUGH THE VEINS OF HISTORY~
Huh?
I'LL SHOW YOU HOW GOD
FALLS ASLEEP ON THE JOB
Both, only trannies, fags and women listen to MCR
this and rust in peace is basically Yea Forums essencial
AND HOW CAN WE WIN
WHEN FOOLS CAN BE KINGS
And? Maybe you should stop since mcr is fagcore
>metal
I see the other half is underage then
You're so hardcore bro I bet you listen to real music with AC/DC!
Most metalheads are actually well built chads and not twink looking fags who cut themselves and think they’re cool for doing it
Close but Obituary and Thin Lizzy, and throw in some The Chasm.
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME
OR TIME WILL, WASTE, YOU
Kojima is friends with tons of westerners and hollywood types. He consumes pretty much nothing but western pop culture. How long do you think before his twitter profile specifies his preferred gender pronouns?
My fucking sides. Almost all of them either look like this or are skinny versions of this.
>Most metalheads are actually well built chads
Good fuck joke user, the almost always look like this.
NO ONE'S GONNA TAKE ME ALIVE
THE TIME HAS COME TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT
WHEN I WAS
A YOUNG BOY
KOJIMA
TOOK ME INTO THE CITY
TO SEE A METAL GEAR
HE SAID SON ONE DAY
WHEN YOU GROW UP
YOU WILL
PLAY A GAME WHERE
YOU JUST WALK AROUND
Would you say that to this guy’s face you fucking twinks?
Billie Eilish is better
MCR fan right there
Is he supposed to be intimidating?
This is the same dingus who came up with Snatcher, what happened to his brain?
there's two types of metalheads, the chad ones only listen to metallica and iron maiden while on the gym, and the weird ones that listen to very niche bands, are very skinny and introverted
now look at the people around him
Demolition Lovers best song
OOH NO
THEY SAY HE'S GOT TO GO
GO GO GODZILLA
To your anorexic twink ass yeah.
The bitch literally can't sing lol
I mean, when looking at Death Stranding gameplay, or the small amount he's decided to show us, it literally looks like any other 3rd person open world that's come out in the past decade. So far, there's nothing special about it at all from just the visuals and the gameplay. I know Kojimbo is better known for his story but honestly if he plans on telling a shitty "the worlds comes together" story through some boring ass walking simulator then he might as well just make a damn movie and just leave gaming completely. I'm tired of all these open world, boring ass games that depend on the story to grab you instead of the gameplay or the visuals? Even the visuals these days are boring. Everything just seems so realistic its sickening. What happened to games like Ratchet & Clank where they captivated your attention with its quirky world design and excellent character designs? Screw this era of games
Cannibal Corpse and Obituary aren’t niche, they’re as mainstream as it comes.
Why are you so obsessed with twinks fag?
Because that’s basically every mcr fan that isn’t a woman, they’re all skinny twinks.
I have literally never met a "Chad" who like metallica or iron maiden. They are almost exclusively fat/skinny retards.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER CONFESSION TO MAKE
I'M YOUR FOOL
EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR CHAINS TO BREAK
HOLDING YOU
BEEN HOLDING ON FOREVER
PROMISE ME THAT WHEN I'M GONE YOU'LL KILL MY ENEMIES
Jeez, I thought Kojima was in his late 30s.
now find a chad that listens to them, i guarantee that for each one you find, you'll find 10 more overweight or underweight virgins
MY
NIGGA
It’s actually Heaven Help Us but I’m probably the only one who knows the song
Not either of those but this guy exudes chad and powerwolf would be considered niche outside metal
More like exudes max cringe
Honest question do you guys any bands that sound like Live Wire or Stand up and Shout?
>That guy
>A chad
He looks like a literal faggot who wants to be pozzed and likes cum in his beard.
Kaguya Luna
powerwolf is way more cringe than mcr and any other emo band
Great fucking album.
They’re self aware about it, mcr was dead serious about it all
No, Kojima is a pathetic 60 year old pretending to be 17.
Is that Cannibal Corpse?
MCR's most popular song is a self aware joke though
imagine not only listening to MCR as a teen, but thinking back on it with nostalgia instead of cringe.
You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing
>Do you think game directors drawing from personal experience in their youth makes for better writing in games?
Everyone who writes does that, even just subconsciously.
not her sweety
what the fuck?
imagine being that insecure
>Getting angry on an intractable moving pictures forums because of what kids used to listen to 15 years ago
The irony in your post tastes bad.
When he was...
BASED
I wrote a report about it in high school fight me.
ONE NIGHT AND ONE MORE TIME
THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES
EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T SO GREAT
HE TASTES LIKE YOU ONLY SWEETERRRRRR
He looks like he went through reverse puberty.
This
>that fucking piercing
fucking ruined. she's so cute, why'd she ruin her face like that
WE FOUGHT EM HARD
WE FOUGHT EM WELL
I JUST WANT TO BREAK YOU DOWN SO BADLY
WELL I TRIP OVER EVERYTHING YOU SAY
I JUST WANT TO BREAK YOU DOWN SO BADLY
IN THE WORST WAY
>tfw I still unironically like MCR and other emoshit bands
IT'S ONLY TEENAGE WASTELAND
THEY SAY
I ONLY THINK IN THE FORM OF CRUNCHING NUMBERS
MY VILLAGE WAS RAIDED BY SOLDIERS
FOREIGN. SOLDIERS.
Based and emopilled. We also had the hottest girls in high school. Keep coping, prepcels.
Why though? Serious question, their vocals are so whiny and their riffs simplistic
Too bad they’re all dead now
complexity don't automatically make good music
cuz THAT'S WHAT YA GET
WHEN YA LET YOUR HEART WIN
WOOOOOOOOAHHHHH OOOOOOOHHHHHOOHHOOOHHHHH
Because people like things you dont you
autism jesus
Dunno. I just like it. It tickles my emo funnybone.
It's not like you can't enjoy "simplistic" music, nor do lyrics being whiny make the song bad. Honestly I like the whinyness. It appeals to my own repressed whiny nature.
>2007 was 12 years ago
>its only getting further away
i feel like booting up burnout 3 after listening to this thread. that game makes me hyped and wistful at the same time like no other game does. times were truly better back then
>we're already approaching the 2020s
I feel like it can work for all media
as long as the director isn't pushing political agendas or any other BS I dont see why there should be an issue with it
I got a feeling 21 is gonna be a good year.
to be honest, this decade kinda picked up in everything but socio-political terms for me in the last few years, so i'm kinda hopeful the 20's will be less shit than the teens. kinda hard to do worse, unless we actually get wiped out by nuclear war
For you, it was the most important day of your life, but for me, it was Tuesday.
>we are the last of the 20th Century and of the 1st millennium
>im going to turn 30 in a few years
>still never had a gf
It could be good for (You) and me.
I dunno man
2020s is kind of a wild bag but my money is on the roll that it's gonna be somewhat worse than the 2010s. I mean jesus christ the last 5 years of this decade alone was rough
Don't worry Yea Forums, we'll all float on okay...
I can already imagine it being like Cowboy Bebop where I would have to explain to 2070s kids on how Video Cassettes, DVDs, and BD players used to work
Paramore's still going strong
At least we all have degrees a car and our own place right guys? Guys? Please tell me at least one of us has gotten laid guys
People do that now with reel to reel machines and rotary phones. Time marches on.
I can drive
I can drink
But house, degree, and job
lol no
fog*
holy fuck based kojima
Yes to all four, b-but I'm not a normalfag, I swear!
>No car
>no place
>have tons in the bank and just invest in crypto
>no gf
Im content with my life tho
It's the same problem you see in modern anime. Early creators were illustrators and draftsmen, with wide literary and cinema influences. Now most grew up only consuming anime with minimal outside influence and just rehash and reference the same tropes. It's an inward spiral to oblivion.
Yea Forums here, Kojima's music taste is really entry-level. Dude unironically thinks Joy Division is one of the best bands of all time and keeps tweeting out cringy shit to make it look like he's into "obscure" music. Alongside his taste in movies he's really a poser.
best song off that album
I can't get into this album because I will always associate it with a fat dyke who was into me back in high school. What an unpleasant experience.
I want to a Hayley
I’m saving for a house and proposing to my girlfriend this week, I think I’m almost free of this place
you'll come crawling back here after the divorce
good taste my dude
>Dookie was released 25 years ago
Make it stop
cringe
the GOAT kino MCR music video
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Probably would desu
I actually met her because of MCR, funnily enough
Wait what the fuck
Misery Business is their best song
don't @ me
But they already topped TBP with Danger Days?
that’s not crushcrushcrush, fag-kun
Half of danger days sucked ass, but the other half was kino
Born For This
Yea Forums hates it? Kojima must have some good taste.
>implying Yea Forumstants know what they're talking about
You fags have the shittest taste of them all.
HERE GOES TOKYO
>worst thing about mgsv
>not the lack of a proper 3rd act
>not the lack of a proper resolution to the story
>not the lack of a larger, more thorough story
>not "BOSS GET DOWN"
>not that you cannot shoot the child-niggers
>listening to emo bands
No. The idea of a creator of media using their in personal experiences as the basis for their works' themes and plots is unimaginable, and I can assure you it's never happened over the course of human history.
No one said it never happened but does it make for good storytelling
>tfw loved first three MCR albums
>tfw 30 yo boomer
>tfw never got to see them in concert
also, the only song I liked off Danger Days was The Kids From Yesterday.
Based FOB poster
>its actually real
BASED
Who /ween/ here?
IN THE MIDDLE OF A GUNFIGHT
Best version of Black Parade coming through:
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Best Maiden album
LIFE IS BUT A DREAM FOR THE DEAD
Hideo was inspired by Portopia to make Snatcher
Portopia is a good game, if a bit cryptic. Lots of funny details which makes it fun to try stuff out when you're stuck.
A FAGGOT
same lad
MCR died with the black parade.
Bullets > Revenge > Parade
Best video is Ghost of You
Best song is Headfirst for Halos
Fav song is cubicles and drowning lessons
lead me to the land
everything has become a ripoff so much so even the original source feels the same.
Everything could be done probably has. Man is creativiely bankrupt and its even worse now because they keep recycling capeshit after capeshit and jerkoff fantasy 1 and jerkoff fantasy 2.
No one understands anymore you don't need complexity to make something amazing. The greatest games tend to have very simple objectives.
>le tremolo pick on answering machine
yawn
HIDE YOUR BODY FROM THE SCARECROW
My chemical romance had some good songs t b h
KAWASHITA YAKUSOKU WASURENAI YO
BLOOD CELLS PIXELAAAAATE
AND EYEEEES DILATEEE
I'VE GOT A LOT TO SAY TO YOU, YEAH I'VE GOT A LOT TO SAY
AND SUGAR WE'RE GOING DOWN SWINGING
Yes but only if they experienced things I like otherwise their games are bad.
I want to hotglue creepy miku
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN FISH WON'T JUDGE YOU BY YOUR FAULTS
THIS AIN'T A SCENE, IT'S A GODDAMN ARMS RACE
>flash is dead, zoomers are now idolizing 7th gen consoles
All these bands will be the new dadrock in a couple decades
A lot of "classic" radio stations have been playing a lot of Foo Fighters, Offspring, etc
So they'll randomly just appear in a ton of video games? Can't wait.
Is that a drawfriend request of Wendy Corduroy in a varsity jacket from Bully?