Trigger is working on an animated opening for Shantae 5

Trigger are animating something for Indivisible too

Even JC Staff would have been better. Fuck Trigger.

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>Risky with peach skin accent

DWHAT?!

Trigger is a meme studio who hasn't made anything good since KLK

>2D
>dungeons
>animated intro

5 is going to be what HGH should’ve been

Do be successful in killing yourself this time, what do you say?

based

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I WANT A FUCKING SATURDAY MORNING ANIME GODDAMMIT
5 SEASONS
ALL CHARACTERS IN IT

jc staff is really really bad when it comes to action scenes. they are good at background and still image though. Most of JC staff Opening songs have better action scene than the actual episodes. See: Toaru Majutsu no Index& railgun

LWA was good

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>He didn't watch luluco

Kys

How come anime concept artwork is always drawn with those weird colors?

yeah I want the studio that made OPM S2 to do the intro for no reason other than pure spite

They made cute girls.

>all games range from decently fun to great platformers
I can't imagine what you think is a good track record.

It looks visually like HGH, and has dungeons. That's all we really know.
It's definitely still a long ways off.

iirc they specify different types of lighting, like shadow, rim lighting etc

It's a place holder for the kind of shading they will have to do when they color it.

It's 100% true, though.

>nigger westaboo studio
Only ironic weebs like them.

I want the artstyIe from this game back.

The only good from KLK was the first episode

it's good.

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Her bone thin arm is freaking me out a bit

Gridman was fine

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>Can't find my gold Shantae coin I got from the kickstarter

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How the fuck do I learn to draw this good

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why does Trigger whore themselves out to western studios so often?

Trigger is full of westaboos.

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I would rather have them move away from the HGH sprite style.

Practice.
Alternatively, trace the art you think is good and take note of how you're drawing it until you an apply it in your own way.

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They are really bad at writing and need to supplement their income.

Speaking of Trigger, how was Promare?

won't change the fact that the game is just going to be a shitty asset flip of HGH

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The game is salvaged

I can't believe Shantea was a pedo rape victim all along...

>mediocre game only kept alive because the artists for it are horny bastards

Why would I ever give this money when I can just google porn for it?Hell, I can go to the drawthread right now and request Shantae getting her butthole rimmed and I'd eventually get a $50 delivery for free.

The most mainstream Imaishi work yet.
As in, over the top stylish action with hype MCs, a plot that doesn't really matter, self references out the ass, and no deaths whatsoever

Draw a lot, try to learn something new by each drawing. I'm not talking just dozens of images, by the time you've done 10,000 drawings you can't help but be good at drawing at least something.

kino as fuck

I've been wanting a full Trigger game collab for a long ass time and I hope this leads to it down the line. Just as long as it's with WayForward or any good mid level dev and not fucking IntiCreates

>People acting like Shantae is so bad people only like it for T&A

Get some critical thinking skills you low IQ niggers.

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I thought trigger was a pretty big studio, seems weird that they are working on such a niche title
Still fucking cool

>no deaths whatsoever
But TTGL had a lot of deaths

>this is where all the budget for this game went towards instead of changing the shitty HGH sprites

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That's what makes this the most mainstream thing he's done.

The games have amusing writing and colorful art. The mechanics have the potential to be good, it just kinda vaguely feels like there's something missing. If this series keeps going I am confident that it will eventually produce an above average game

trigger gets paid a half eaten sandwich and a warm coke.

The proof is in the OP if you don't believe us.

>these untalented hacks are spending money on an intro cutscene instead of going full steam ahead on the actual GAMEPLAY

You can bet these assholes are gonna blow the budget on fancy cinematics and outfits for Shantae to look slutty in, while letting the gameplay remain a boring, unpolished POS metroid ripoff.

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Seriously who was she?

Half Genie Hero was one of the best platformers to come out that decade.

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is shantae even good? I hear one of the games was decent but overall the series is mediocre at best. are the older games at least being remastered? where would I even start? I hear the first few games are unplayable trash

Trigger works with basically any western studio they feel like, they even did the opening for OK KO and it's super jarring since nothing else in the show moves like this
youtube.com/watch?v=CNpMeYjp8A8

Now if they animated the rest of the game my dic- I mean hands will be all over Shanta- I mean the game.

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Inferno Cop

If there's one thing I have an issue with with these games it the extremely clashing and default as fuck text boxes. Like, seriously, look at this shit; does that text box, in that font, look like it fits? No, it doesn't, it looks fucking terrible. Didn't wayforward do the whole pixel based text font before? That would fit a lot better.

There's also Hori who's a massive fan of the gems show and did a musical number for it.

I did get some critical thinking and I think that the games are pretty bad and her central mechanic is handled in the worst way compared to other games that do the same thing.

Oops, I meant Pirate's Curse, hence the picture image.

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Will the actual game be good like Pirate's Curse?

Yeah, because OK KO is the most low fucking effort show I have ever seen. Dear lord, those designs. Any actual talent goes for fucking miles.

They are just kinda mediocre
People will tell you Pirate's Curse is the best one and for the life of me I don't know why, that one removes the core mechanics and replaces them with abilities ripped straight from Metroid and has some really terrible endgame level design

>by the time you've done 10,000 drawings you can't help but be good at drawing at least something

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W-who would do the rimming?

Unless you have actual numbers and can tell us how much got spent on what, no one is going to take your dumb ass seriously.

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God bros I haven't touched a girl in so long it hurts.

We will NEVER get MLaaTR Tigger animation EVER
We will NEVER replace the trash that was nuPPG with Tigger PPG or even better PPGZ

FUCK this gay ass Earth...

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Trigger literally animates on 10 bucks a commission and uses the biggest shortcuts possible.

>Unless you have actual numbers
I'm in the right if they so much as spent even one penny on the intro cutscene. Unless Trigger is doing it for free, that amount could've gone to the actual programmers or the people involved with the actual VIDEO GAME, not disgusting movie shit.

I still want a KLK platinum game
Even just a mod to substitute Raiden with Ryuko

>So far the series has pretty rubbish track-record

Do you hate platformers?

so why has the series survived this long if the series is mediocre at best? is it just nostalgia and tits? are the games at least cheap? what is it?

If you'd rather have no interaction to a pic other than your dick verses interaction that exceeds pass your dick, you are objectively just a brainlet

>literally is just reusing assets from HGH to make the game come out as soon as possible
that's all the proof you need to know that they are spending as little as possible on the actual game

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Shantae is so ugly

user do you think that video games are some sorta thing where the more money you pour into it, the better it is?
As long as they have enough money to complete their vision, they're good to go, you idiot.
Why does this have to be explained to you? How don't you know something so basic? Why do you have a 13 year old view of the world?

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>MLAATR
fucking based

Trigger is dipping pretty hard into gaming. This, the KLK game, LWA VR. It's odd.

ITERATION BAD

It's always funny to watch redditors spazz out on Shantae because she's one of the few western female designs that appeals to Yea Forums

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I want to grab Risky's booty (boobies)

GBC and Pirate's Curse are good.

Indivisble too. And Project X Zone.

>I still want a KLK platinum game
I thought this already existed?

WF survived by making licensed games for decades, Shantae 1 and RR both sold terribly initially(the reason why RR was so short is because it as supposed to be episodic but the game sold so poorly that they couldn't fund the second episode) and it wasn't until they made other ips that sold somewhat better like Mighty Switch Force and Boy and His Blod that they were able to fund Pirate's Curse and even then, they had so little faith in that game selling well that they started a kickstarter to fund HGH before PC even released. If Shantae was owned by any other studio, the series would've died after one installment, but since the guy in charge of greenlighting projects at WF is also the creator of Shantae, he forces WF to make a new Shantae whenever they have the money for it.

>user do you think that video games are some sorta thing where the more money you pour into it, the better it is?
I think they're a medium where NOTHING should be given attention, except the actual video game part. The graphics designers, story writers, mo cap people, CGI artists, and everyone else should be willing to work for free, without pay, or get the fuck out. They do not belong in this medium. They are actively trying to ruin video games by making them less about the gameplay, and more about MUH FANCY GRAFIX, or MUH CINEMATIC CUTSCENES.

I feel nothing but pure disgust whenever another game comes out and showcases itself as yet another graphics demo, or an excuse for the pretentious developer to tell a story.

everyone hates you and your fellow waifufags

They have fun writing, nice artwork, and yeah, I think they are fairly cheap on account of the fact that they're fairly short.

They have very casual friendly nonlinearity. They're Metroidvania, but with a very small game world and simple puzzles, and actually not too much exploration either because most of what you put in mind to remember to come back to later is actually mandatory. They're also not very hard.

Those are pretty old by now.

> she's one of the few western female designs that appeals to Yea Forums
I never thought of that, that actually explains a lot.

Trigger are westaboos and know that there's western fans that would want their work in their thing.

Reminder that Trigger did the intro for Black Dynamite Season 2.

Trigger's done quite a few western openings for stuff going from Lab 0 to Cartoon Network to Pixar. They're huge westaboos so that helps.

>Unironically being underage

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It's not really that far out of a thing to happen, Trigger already did indivisible's OP and worked with Steven Universe.
Hell, nippon studios doing western work isn't odd. The studio that did Akira worked on Batman TAS, did the Harvey Dent becomes Two-Face episode.

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LWA, Luluco, Gridman were great

>implying your average underage zoomer wouldn't prefer games to be hallway simulators with pretty graphics and waifus

It takes an adult to appreciate good gameplay and nothing else.

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Rotty Tops

They're also huge Transformersfags aren't they? But then again, TF is also half Japanese in its own right.

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Shantae isn't a tomboy, she isn't a mommy, she isn't a loli, she isn't anything that appeals to Yea Forums, she's just a shitty brown girl(and not even a good one either since the color choices in her design just look bad). Risky is just a blatant ripoff of Captain Syrup from Wario Land but has that weird skin tone, the only good design in Shantae is human Rottytops but since WF is a bunch of fucking fags, that design will never be in another Shantae game.

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Adults don't talk like that, sorry user, your views are far too cartoonishly expressed, you couldn't be anymore obvious.

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So you only play primitive text-based adventure games like ZORK, then?

Based

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Now for sure you can tell the game will be mediocre.

Groovy.

Transformers is a true Japanese/American property. Not weeaboo, not westaboo, but a true mixture.

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Gridman is pretty japanese in tone and feel make the blatant TF references stand out a fuckton

>the only good design in Shantae is [generic anime schoolgirl]

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The only good one is Gridman. The rest is pure garbage waste of time.

that's interesting but then why not go all in and actually create a more ambitious Shantae game that'll sell well?

Yeah but using elements that are strictly from the western side of TF kinda says a lot.

It's weird. Shantae is the rare Brown Skin + Purple Hair combo that gets me rock hard but I'm not really a huge fan of her design despite that. I don't think it's bad but it never jumped out at me as great.

Betting the barn when you've got a stable thing going is how you bankrupt a company that was doing fine.

>adults don't talk like that
And pray tell, how SHOULD they talk? What wrongthink should I be arrested for?

>primitive
Yes, let's just hate on our ancestors, the games that allowed the industry to even exist. They're old, they won't care. haha.

>this is the same person calling others underage

>THEY NEED TO EXPAND THEIR AUDIENCE
>THEY NEED THE CALL OF DUTY/FORTNITE/ETC AUDIENCE
>SHANTAE NEEDS TO GO BIG

Absolutely fucking kill yourself.

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HGH's style was really cute though.

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>What wrongthink should I be arrested for?
That's exactly what I mean.

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ok, thats nice and all, but, what about River City Girls?

Arcsys announced Wayforward is working on that game, and how are they gonna do that if they are busy with Shantae now? why announce the game is gonna be made if its gonna took like half-year before the first trailer?

seriously, this is worse than the half-year delay with RCR SP in Japan.

Gridman very heavily used stuff from Shattered Glass.

>hasn't made anything good since [their literal worst show]

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>redditors seething
Every thread, I love it.

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fair enough. I guess if it aint broke, don't fix it. Maybe I'll try one of these games eventually

If you go to an animation studio and pay them enough, they will work for you.

it's better to take something generic and make it look good than try to be original and make it look like garbage, look at any JRPG and you see artists throw as many bells and whistles on there and go with strange color choices so their shitty protagonist stands out when you could've just made a handsome knight looking dude and it would've been more memorable and would've looked better

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Sure, but most of the Gridman TF references are based on the Bay movies and Shattered Glass, the most american TF things this side of Animation. Like the japanese TF refs I can think of are Rikka's swimsuit and mom, and they're toy-only references (and one is sepcifically a joke about the diaclone-TF adaptation)

>visually like HGH
Oh for fucks sake. Did they hate the art style in Pirate's Curse or what? It was the best of all games so far.

Cute and sexy. Hopefully the game will be good too, but good on them for getting this opening done.

They're shading guidelines user...

>he calls everyone reddit for hating her despite the fact that she's literally the reddit/tumblr waifu

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*this side of Animated

No point in scrapping all those assets.

I want Trigger to draw Shantae pooping on my chest

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wayforward had money

animation studios don't tend to get a lot of that

>actually create a more ambitious
Name one fucking IP today that does this. I'll fucking wait
>Inb4 Breath of the Wil-
Witcher, Skyrim, and Zelda 1 did it first.

Pixels don't sell as well as cartoony

Someone post the jap universe collage

You're still not presenting the "proper" way to talk.

Do we know which animator? Indivisible was Yoh for example.

I'm not your mommy, user, I'm not here to teach you.

>Name one fucking IP today that does this.

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>Hell, nippon studios doing western work isn't odd
yeah, tons of 80s/90s animated shows were outsourced to nippon

They are fun enough to beat once, but no Shantae game will be better than Monster Boy and the cursed Kingdom.

this

go watching ANY opening for an 80s action cartoon in the US and its ALLLLLLL fucking nice 80s era JP anime shit.

Wow! The most popular animation studio in the west, that's known for also being more into western media, is doing an animation for a western creator!? Color me fucking surprised. Next you'll tell me they animated a few things for Cartoon network and adult swim.

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>Luluco
>Inferno cop
>Little witch academia OVAs
If Promare turns out to be good than thatll be more good than bad.

This may actually be and will always be the coolest god damn thing to ever happen to Shantae holy shit.

Unless her Smash announcement.

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>The most popular animation studio in the wes-

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I can't understand how the heck WF managed to make the transformations in these games feel extremely unfun to play as when Ape Escape 3 was able to make transformations so good and so versatile that you could play through the entire game as one of them and still have a good time and they were able to do this over a decade ago....

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>The studio that did Akira worked on Batman TAS, did the Harvey Dent becomes Two-Face episode.
That's one of my favorite episodes.

>Terraria
>today
>It's literally MetroidxMinecraft with ripped FF sprites
Topkek

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This hasn't even been confirmed yet as final. It was a snippet on a phone commercial.

Cause it takes time to apply them, and they're very situational.

>implying it isn't Ghibli

Not to mention they've also done a bunch of game openings, even as pre-trigger-but-the-same-staff starting with Namco x Capcom.

God I need to play Ape Escape again

They don't have that much presence in the west. Meanwhile Trigger constantly shows up in a lot of western made stuff, does a ton of shout outs to western animation, and just in general have a strong connection to their western fanbase.

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>Xmen got a better animated OP in japan
youtube.com/watch?v=gfjAbXrvkFw

I don't understand what your deal is either, user, the system works fine and after the first game the only way they could make it easier is literally just selecting it off a wheel.

>Trigger already did indivisible's OP and worked with Steven Universe
They also did the Black Dynamite S2 intro and storyboarded OK KO's intro. CN & [as] can basically Speed Dial Trigger and pay what's probably not a whole lot of money to them to spend to crank out 10-30 seconds of animation or some storyboards.

Gotta look deeper than that user.

>game with replayability on a budget so small that they could afford to release 8 years of DLC for free, which vastly improved the game content without turning it into a lootbox/gacha fest

Name JUST ONE company or game that can claim to have done something similar, while maintaining the game's high level of quality. Then compare that to Shantae wasting money on a cinematic intro cutscene.

maybe back in the 2000s, but they haven't released anything in the 2010s that was as big as Spirited Away or Ponyo

Because Ape Escape is a series for patrician demigods that value good gameplay, while Shantae is a terrible series for utter brainlets that buy the games exclusively due to fanservice.

Shantae has ONE(1) decent game and that's it.
Shantae fans are the most miserable, retarded group of utter lobotomized baboons on this board.

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I wouldn't exactly call David Productions popular in the west. It's literally Jojo that's popular.

This. LWA, Gridman and Franxx was wasted potential. KLK was atleast consistently mediocre. The problem with Trigger is that they consistently tried to bait people into thinking that they're anime has a deeper symbolic meaning by giving as little and as vague description of things that were happening. Only to drop it halfway through and instead fill the rest of the story with action scenes and or dealing with character melodrama.

Is it okay to admit I got a boner after the first "SHOCK!!!"?

As Gainax?
The facial expressions for Dent was topnotch

I think if Fire Force is a hit then David is going to become a big name for western anime watchers. It's one thing to be "The JoJo studio" but if they succeed with this they could really start growing.

Imo basically how the hat system in AHiT would be the best way to handle transformations. Just while time slows down she dances to the selection you highlight, and there you go, same thing the GB game implemented but faster.

it's fine to make things situational, but the method they went about them just makes transforming tedious. Ape Escape 3's transformation system works the same way where you choose from a wheel and their main applications are completely situational, but they fleshed them out and gave them shit that makes them fun to play on their own. WF designs transformations around their one use and doesn't think about anything else.

>sprites
He doesn't know

>Name JUST ONE company or game that can claim to have done something similar
Super Smash Flash 2 :^)

I always wondered why they are fighting zergs.

>the system works fine
Not him, but that's kinda the point, it's fine, it's not good, it's not terrible, it's just fine.
It barely does what it's supposed to but it's not fun to use.
One way to fix it would be getting rid of seperate forms entirely and just having her briefly turn into the transformations for certain moves, i.e. monkey for dash, harpy for double jump, elephant for ground pound, etc..

Way Forward is just western IntiCreates

KLK wasn't even good.
Only the first episode of KLK was ok.
Trigger is a studio that only knows how to do fireworks and they always blow their load immediately, then spend the rest of their series tugging on their dick hoping that something else will eventually come out, but it never does.
They're the embarassing, premature ejaculators of japanese animation studios.
They appeal to the most superficial of anime fans, those that don't want, need, or can even see anything past the surface level of an anime and the first impression.
The "i just wanna see the pretty colors" crowd.

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Those are sprites, just high resolution. Sprite does not = pixels, because everything image on your computer screens is rendered with pixels.

Sprites are basically just a code name for 2D image in a video game.

HGH was made with sprites, but they're animated strangely with what looks like puppeting shit.

but Gunvolt is way more fun than Shantae

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>Gridman
Explain gridman? I thought it was fine really.

>シャンティ
>Shanty
Is that how you say it? Is it an intentional pun?

>but they're animated strangely with what looks like puppeting shit.
It's called tweening. It's like in Rayman Origins/Legends, which there's this program called DragonBones that does the same animation style for game development.

This is true, and both are out of their heyday honestly, although since Inti at their best was better than peak WF, current Inti is also still pretty good while I can't think of a WF game from the past few years that was great outside of maybe The Mummy Demastered but I haven't played that personally.

>DragonBones
Is that part of the UbiArt Framework?

>It's literally MetroidxMinecraft with ripped FF sprites
that sounds awesome

I cant wait for Risky to bare it all Satsuki style

Only if they learn how to draw hands. Wish they went for the promo art of 5 for the game but unless like it's a placeholder then it seems we are stuck with the HGH art which isn't bad but is a downgrade from Pirate's curse sprites and text artwork

Nah, Japan just doesn't have a proper sound to say her name.

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Holy fucking shit

Does this mean we will also have an anime?

Well, I'll give you that. XD

But seriously, you know what I mean.

Look at all these tranny (You)s that cant accept reality.

Nah, NxC was an ad-hoc group assembled by Imaishi and produced by Production IG. Think Dead Leaves rather than Gurren Lagann organizationally, even though they're technically the same guys. They were already stretching their legs away from Gainax' bullshit years before they finally made a clean split and founded Trigger.

Nah. *dabs on u*

I hope they hire Roy.

No shame in that

Her game is originally Japanese though

No, just means that Trigger would make short animations for anyone as long as you throw a few peanuts at them

>new projects about to be announced on july 5

praying for another series or two, this better not be one of the things they were talking about

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Midriff user. Midriff.

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Gridman was great though.
youtu.be/1GyaeUHidfU

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please understand, they are only a small indie studio that has more people working their projects than some AAA studios....

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Who's the red head and the one above her?

Let's be honest: WF fucking WISHES they were as good as Inti is right now.
Gunvolt might not be everyone's cup of tea, but aestetically and most importantly in terms of raw gameplay (especially playing as Copen), Inti styles all over WF without even trying.
The two studios basically aren't even in the same league at this point.
WF survives on submediocre titles and fanservice, Inti makes shit that is extremely solid to play and still has fanservice if that's what you seek

Inti's next game is being treated as a AA production, a proper breaktrough for the studio.
While WF next title is yet another underwhelming Shantae title that is gonna be FotW for like 1 week and then die out like anything they've ever done that isn't pirate's curse.
I'm sure i've made some people mad with this post, but it's the goddamn truth.
WF is a second rate studio that will never break out of the mold again at this rate.

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Good enough for me.

They will keep using peanuts because pic related is how I play Shantae games

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The one above the red head is another redhead named Atomic Betty

I've already resigned myself of believing in LWA S2

That shit is only on Switch. That makes it subpar indie trash by definition

bigger

Wouldn't it just get ported anyway

So it's Kirby or Modern Day Pokemon?
Doesn't stop fans from goubling it up.
Just cope bro, you're obsessed. Shantae is like Sonic, love them for the surface values, not for the raw gameplay because Sonic hasn't been good at that since S3K (not including Mania). Just deal with the fact people don't care like you do, I did when I dropped Pokemon for good. I literally cannot drop Sonic thanks to his 90s era.

it's not though, it's also on PS4 and Steam

>That shit is only on Switch
No.

>Shante is like Sonic
Not him, but is that supposed to be something positive?

Money.

Trigger also sees the market going to cartoons sooner rather than later, so Trigger will suck American cock to get ahead.

i have no expectations, i just hope its something original, and soon. would be nice if it was trigger girls, but i've been hearing weird, delusional rumblings about pic related lately

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source on pic?

No, retard. I wouldn't have made my post if I was trying to.

The point is, no one fucking cares. Normalfags just love surface value, not gameplay. The Wii era sealed the deal that gaming is for casuals now, it's time to deal with it.

>Their next game is AA
what a ridiculously meaningless distinction

Holy shit read the fucking post

Doesn't Gainax still have it, though? Unless they worked out a deal, i don't see it happening.

Inti's next title, Gunvolt Chronicles: Luminous Avenger iX.

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the fuck? thats Gunvolt?

>Inti create's "Big original AA series" is 'Not Megaman' and 'Not Megaman X'

Not a second rate studio at all

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I will now buy her game

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Does the gameplay look just like more Gunvolt but with money? I love the MMZ series but Gunvolt never looked quite like what I wanted.

Trigger said nothing is really stopping them from making it aside from finances, and they have expressed interest in making more. there was a clip from an interview or stream where they said that they've discussed it a lot, and if they did make s2 "they wouldn't hold anything back"
still seems really unlikely

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Not unless it's funded by the west.
GEEKS (and by extension Imaishi) was part of the committee for PSG so he has partial rights.

I'm really confused. Are Trigger big or not? They make some of the highest profile stuff but everything about them screams "just trying to make ends meet".

That's basically anime studios in a nutshell

WHERE'S NINJA SLAYER 2 YOU FUCKING JAPS

Cope.N

Trigger is like Platinum. They're guys that do cool shit because they want to do cool shit but couldn't without being their own studio, but the cool shit doesn't give them a lot of budget to work with or a huge amount of success, and their western fanbase is what helps keep them afloat.

they're a small studio

>they consistently tried to bait people into thinking that they're anime has a deeper symbolic
>Gridman

You don't play as Gunvolt, you play as Copen.
Wich is 50 times more fun to play.
The entire fanbase told Inti "Copen is more fun to play" so they were just like "Ok we'll just focus on the Zero of this series i guess".

youtube.com/watch?v=mYOYReo427A

And if you need a pratical example on why Copen is more fun to play than Gunvolt:

youtube.com/watch?v=1JTEW9kO3Q4

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>grindman was triggers best recent work
>normfags didnt watch it because they hate mecha and tokusatsu

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Gridman was about how NEET behavior is dangerous and self destructive

The red head is Ruby Gloom. Her show is very cute, and one of the few Canadian cartoons I would call good in this last decade.

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Or you know, Trigger has a reasonably sized audience in the west and have already historically worked with western game development studios.

Liking popular things does not make you interesting

Trigger is the Reddit of animation studios

Interesting how the cultural divide and internet causes that

I highly doubt Platinum and Trigger or whatever meme studio westerners like have as many devoted japanese fans, outside of occasional hits like Nier Automata, but you can blow up the western weeb sphere by announcing a new Trigger project or Platinum game

I wonder if the internet and cultural divide of looking in on the japanese industry, whereas the japanese perspective would literally be from inside the industry, causes western fanbases to latch onto the idea of small companies trying their best to make passion projects in crowded markets, whereas japanese fans might just see flashy studios that make samey stuff

I've had trouble keeping up with anime in general personally, but this thread has convinced me to put Gridman on my small backlog. I'm not going to go crazy, I only plan on watching Fire Force, a couple manga adaptations (Dr. Stone and the one about fitness), and a few shows from the past couple years (Carol & Tuesday, Mob Psycho, and now Gridman). I'm also going to keep up with the new Scooby Doo series. Hopefully that will be easy enough to do.

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Can't really pinpoint or explain why I think Gridman is a wasted potential unless I rewatch it. I dropped it around the middle. The last episode I can remember I watched was the train ride that the MC took with a loli. That showed that the world outside doesn't exist. Something about Trigger shows just doesn't stick with me. It's as if they planned the story as a 2 cour series but only got the budget for 1. They pull you and made you take interest on the world, events, setting, but then kept it on the side for almost the entirety of the series, but then just explain everything in 1 episode. I fucking hate that.

Literally no faggot who has ever shit on Shantae has ever given a legitimate factual reason for it and instead opted for Buzzwords, this is a fact.

It really is a shame.

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> BL

Uninspiring level design and mechanics that settle for being passable at best

Platinum doesn't "take" in japan because their games are too hard.
Not even joking.
The current main japanese gaming audience is fanservice enslaved gacha zombies that are repelled by anything that isn't mobile shit and requires more than 2 braincells to play.
They only play shit when going to school/work and back.
They need bite sized low gameplay involvement titles on their phone and tablets.

Yea Forums has absolutely no clue that any of this is happening.
Yea Forums only understands japanese developers, but not what japanese consumers are up to (hint: they sure as fuck aren't the same consumers the jap developed a reputation for in the '80, '90 and '00).

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this made me realize that dragon quest 11 was the strangest exception
>3 million sales in japan only
>half on the 3ds, other half on the ps4
how the FUCK does yuji horii pull this off?

why is trigger such a fucking slut for western cock?
shantae is not even a good series

THIIISS

>shantae is a reddit/tumblr waifu
what did he mean by this

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>and worked with Steven Universe.
No, they hired an animator who has been a fan of SU that happened to work at Trigger. He isn't even at Trigger anymore.

Dragon Quest is a basically a national institution in Japan.. Culture can shift but there are some things that people within that culture will still look to.

Wow it looks fucking awful.

I knew Nips were causal shitters since the SEGA employees said so since Sonic 1, but fuck man, why are Japs so braindead when it comes to gaming? Is this why the Wii was so successful?

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japs hate koreans.

>>normfags didnt watch it because they hate mecha and tokusatsu
And now they won't watch it because literally all the post series marketing is about Rikka and Akane. I'm at least happy the Symphogear game collab with Gridman was about Gridman himself and the assist weapons.

It means girls like the design as or even more than guys do. Which from my experience is true. The amount of thots that unanimously agree that shantae is cute is like 5:1 when it comes to their male counterparts. Shantae is something we should not be discussing on Yea Forums as it only attracts a bad crowd.

>dragon quest 11 was the strangest exception
It's because it's a cultural phenomenom, essentially a national tradition, rather than a game.
The japanese buy the IDEA of what DQ is, rather than what it actually is as a game.
Sorta like FF back in the PSX/PS2 era, in western terms.
Anyway it also helps that they keep things simple and traditional.

>gridman bad
>why
>'Can't really pinpoint or explain why'
lol

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no matter what people say you will just call it buzzword so I'm going to be honest and say it's boring. Walking around areas in shantae is boring. The story is boring, transforming into shit is boring. There's something really bland about the level design and I cannot describe what it is because I'm no game designer, but I don't have fun at all while playing it. And it's not Shantae but so far most of wayforward games I've played.

What's your preferred series?

Westaboo as fuck

Based and totally correct, and KLK wasn't even that good.

>why are Japs so braindead when it comes to gaming?
No time to play anymore.
Overworked as fuck.
The idea of sitting down and playing a console game being less and less appealing (too much time, too cumbersome), so they shifted entirely onto handhelds, and now the next step: mobile.

characters are not engaging, relationships are not well developed, story has zero themes, and villain (Alexis whatever) is as flat as a pancake and incredibly uninteresting.
Akane is good and that's it. Maybe that kaiju kid too.

If true, that actually seriously explains why Platinum games are simple and flashy gameplay wise and certainly don't reach the mechanical depth people played them up to have originally

Games like Nier Automata and MGS Rising certainly weren't DEEP gameplay wise, and there's no indication they're trying for mechanical depth in the future by making Yet Another Platinum Action Game For Nintendo

Imagine Babiez

>How come this industry with its roots in serious Western tech development only established in Japan by a toy company isn't treated with the same fervor that Western consumers do

I dunno retard, how come?

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>if a girl likes something, that something becomes reddit.
so when a girl says she likes chocolate, all chocolate that ever existed and will exist in the future, instantly becomes reddit?

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cope.

Damn. What a terrible way to live.

Retarded take.
Video games are essential to japanese culture, even more than western culture.
It's their approach to the medium that has changed due to generational exchanges and fundamental shifts in the average lifestyle work/school time/effort demands.

Not everyone in Japan is a salaryman and Americans tend to work more hours yearly than the Japanese do. So riddle me this, how come Americans find the time to have fun and slants don't?

Cool

>Bring up mechanical depth at all, not even implying it's a bad thing
>Instant defensiveness

Platinum fans

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>Not everyone in Japan is a salaryman
You don't understand much about japan, do you?
In japan you're expected to work overtime, every time, to retarded hours.
It's EXPECTED of you, no matter what kind of job you're working or if you're young.
And before that, school life is a competitive, busy as fuck never ending nightmare.

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>Fundamental shifts
The Japanese are lowtech as fuck in their day-to-day lifestyle and video games have little to do with modern Jap culture you queer. They're just addicted to smart phones and greedy companies realized the potentional in targeting them.

It’s a talent. If you don’t have it, do something else instead. Don’t waste your time improving your artistic skills when you have none to speak of. Improve a skill that can actually make you money.

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>The Japanese are lowtech as fuck in their day-to-day lifestyle
>They're just addicted to smart phones
How about you shut the fuck up, since you've just proven me right but you're too retarded to even realize you?
Brainlet.

t. weeb who doesn't live in Japan yet assumes he knows everything there is to know about it

lmao @ u loser

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I guess this was legit then.

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ebic overtime meme. Americans also rate for more overtime being put in corporate/salary positions than Japs. God, you're retarded.

Trigger is fine but Ankama would have been better

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I like shy Shantae more

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Based, and weeb-pilled. Hope it doesn't look like luluco, or kill la kill.
Does this game have a release date yet?

People in japan are fucking dying of heart failure due to stress and constant overworking.
But i guess it's all made up to you.

So Shantae/LWAVR for the new Trigger projects.

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>no matter what people say you will just call it buzzword
I wouldn't but I have yet to be presented with a person who doesn't.

As for, you it just sounds like Wayforward games aren't for you.

Now that's more like it

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>Day-to-day lifestyle
Imagine being so fat you think continuous use of a smartphone makes someone live fit under the high tech moniker.
Call me back when you realize most Japanese paperwork is still done with paper and 90% of the shit they have still needs to be done with cash.

Western culture is to go the fuck home after work or school and veg out in front of a television and go drink with your 'real' friends, there's a separation of work and "real life"

Japaese highschool students have more extracurricular activities, workers do more overtime (this is old fashioned, however), people study harder for university and put more effort into finding a wageslave job, the culture is different, "work life balance" is skewed towards work outside of work.
You'd go drink with your coworkers rather than your Facebook friends.

I talked to a international student at university and his life goal was to work for Sony, because they offer employees opportunity to travel for work, due to being a global corporation.
It's a far cry from the stereotype of Western students who go to university for personal experiences first and professional development is secondary.

reddit and tumblr shill her more than anyone

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2019*
*not really

Supposedly 5 has been in development for a while despite them not showing jack shit for the last couple of months.

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I love Shantae games and there is nothing you can do about it.

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Kinda like... every... animation studio?

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>KLK
Only the first few episodes were good and it still stands as one of the most overrated shows ever. Aside from that only Luluco, the LWA OVAs, and Gridman were worth anything. Kiznaiver and Franxx were total shit

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wait, hori doesnt work for trigger anymore?
This is news to me

Commit an Etika

Hackadoll and turning girls are good

Whether an anime happens or not is up to Wayforward.

Commit...A youtuber who does reaction videos?

>kiznaiver and franxx were shit
yeah, if you dont like character drama

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>decently fun
yes
>great
Name 1. Pirate's Curse is the best Shantae game and even that was painfully mediocre in the gameplay and level design despite the fantastic art and above average story. The original Shantae is kind of impressive considering the limits of the Gameboy but even that one is hardly "great".

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>overrated
I hate this word, because it usually means "I have no specific complaints, I just don't like it as much as everyone else"

I will stand by Kiznaiver, but Franxx was got really shit at the second half.

>tfw actually like HGH but in the minority
Fuck.

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i didn't hate it, but i felt it was lazy and lacking in effort.

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this

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Jesus christ yes.

You can not like something and that doesnt mean its bad, you can understand and see it as good overall but that it doesnt fit your specfic tastes.

Yes

Ankama's animation branch is a wreck. A lot of their talents from the WakfuS1-2 days have been lost and their animation branch had to merge with another more estabished company (ellipsanime, which were probably best known for the Tintin animated series in the last century but recently their output 's been shitty 3d shows like Garfield) to not go under.

So it's completely different levels of experience. As mentioned before, the Trigger guys have been doing game intros as a team for hire since years before they were Trigger (back with Namco x Capcom) and have run a ton of scuccessful productions (irrespective of whether they're well liked) while Ankama's only got a couple sucessful projects and owe their survival to the fact they've only ever worked for Ankama and thus had the dofus money to cushion all their terrible mistakes.

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My issue is with the metronome I actually enjoyed the dance system, also risky mode was legitimately fun

I'm glad this game is happening, Copen felt much more satisfying than Gunvolt's manner of playing.
Also, I'm liking the designs so far.

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A shame.

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>That pic
What if this was Samus?

>billy and mandy

based but where is megas XLR?

Who is your favorite character in the Shantae series and why?

>sword samus
God, I fucking wish

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I just want her back...

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I have been saying this for ages now Inti shoud do the gameplay and WF shoud desing everything else
Here is your Zero now stop pestering us about it! also we are not reviving Jibril!
Most of his animaions has been great and you know it is just that the absolute lack of marketing pulls them under.

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I didn't hate it but it was definitely lacking. If 5 is just HGH with dungeons I'd be fine.

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Will it degrade in animation quality halfway through?

I hope it's successful so there will be more fan art

Yeah he left some months ago. Still hurts because I love his style so much.

Heard a rumor that came from twitter that they wanna make Shantae a lesbian, is WF baing invaded by the regresive lest rigth now? and anyone here have more info on that matter?

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Remember, 1 woman had 4 outfits for 4 different girls that all fit them.

everyone is just making fun of some shantae fan who went on an autistic rant about how he's afraid of WF making Shantae gay and how a relationship would ruin her character, but then he posted about how she should date Link or something stupid like that.

if i were shantae and risky boots existed, i would be lesbian

none of this will ever happen, society.

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>Lol so randumb reddit humor
Almost as bad as Pop team epic but at least this has a plot however bad it may be

By the way that "woman had the body shape of a literal sack of potatoes and still all desert princess outfits fit to a T, they must be made out of Venon’s symbiote or something

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>Jenny and Betty

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>also we are not reviving Jibril!
damnit

all the fucking shantae games are dogshit except for pirate's curse, I'll pirate shantae 5 too

Okay.

I'd contend only wakfu S1 and part of S2 were good and they've been coasting on the goodwill earned by those ever since.

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well as long as its not the Yea Forums of animation studios it should be fine

she's in

if number then we get best girl and her cephalopods back

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and that's the only reason they are the defacto jap studio who does shit despite being genuinely overrated, there's better studios and animator directors and character designers, but nope, safe comfort zone bubble HYUCK HYUCK!

>Downgraded boobs

Correct.
Also KLK was bad.

I still commission lewds of her and Panty, and I won't stop.

Full Shantae cartoon when?

I'm still low-key waiting for the Season 2 joke to stop being a joke.

Well will it Yea Forums?

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no, if that was the case all the western cartoons trigger helped out with like OK KO wouldn't have gotten cancelled

>Hating Luluco and Gridman
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST

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Any artist here willing to draw Shantae using Senketsu Risky using Junketsu?

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She already is, kinda. Exclusive merchandise and stuff.

Did Japan even care about OK KO to begin with?

who knows

that guy is a faggot deviantart fanfic writer
that's all he is
and he's like "theofficialtoy" or some shit like he has a high opinion of himself, but he's like some literal down syndrome faggot
i mean he's on deviantart writing fanfics lmao

Fuck off discord tranny

I don't know what the hell happened to Ankama, but seeing wakfu and the dofus movies pretty much put on ice is a damn shame.

While the subject is on trigger though, how was the LWA show? The ovas were pretty good. That and gridman were the latest two shows I was interested in seeing

oh shit it was this dude?

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I'd doubt it. It was a show by an American nerd weeb for other western nerd weebs. The creator of the show is a long-time Yea Forums user and literally based his Halloween special around the board's obsession with the girls from Scooby Doo & The Ghoul School.

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>harp about stupid western SJW BS
>surprised no one in Japan is giving them work
>has to come beg western developers for work
lol Trigger, you only did this to yourself.

yeah, he is like some asexual, literal down syndrome ninnie

>literally based his Halloween special around the board's obsession with the girls from Scooby Doo & The Ghoul School.
that's pretty based not gonna lie

Ohohoho, I'm sorry. Did you all think that this was an OPTIONAL question to answer? Because I'm afraid that it was not.

In fact, failure to respond will result in immediate death of your mother while she's sleeping tonight.

>harp about stupid western SJW BS
the fuck are you talking about

He got most of their original voices too, and had a scene that was animated in that 80s Hannah-Barbera style for a flashback (so the original designs could get in there because they were redesigned to fit the more simplistic style of the show).

The show is full of shit like this. There's an entire Captain Planet episode, and the main kid KO is voiced by the original dub Kid Goku/Gohan voice actress.

Did pirates curse not mindbreak his dick with this contradiction

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Deepest lore.

And none of it will matter unless the next Shantae game actually has good gameplay. So far out of four Shantae games, two have been decent and two have been bad. And not a single good one yet.

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please
you're assuming he has a dick to speak of
i keep having to reiterate
goddamn dude

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designed for paizuri and mating press desu

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>that one sequence when you wish to free the genie
>he makes you do genie things as his replacement
>every wish slowly corrupts you and turns you into a girl
>you can grant the wishes legitimately or be a dick

Color me surprised, but that was the best sequence in the whole game.

>And not a single good one yet.
Many people would disagree.

>>every wish slowly corrupts you and turns you into a girl
implying this is corruption lmao

reminder that klk is awful and anyone who likes it should return to Yea Forums with thier shit taste

>well if you dick over every wish you grant, the last wish is that you become a nymphomatic whore forever, and your companions don't rescue you/return you to normal

Fuck many people

>the last wish is that you become a nymphomatic whore forever
based

Most people have never even played a Shantae game.

The only that that isn't based is that it takes six fucking zones to get to this content.

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Why is she so cute?

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Retard

al those things exist to enhance the gameplay, gameplay is arguably on general perspective the most important part, but graphics, animations, writing, story, pacing, etc all work to make the game as a whole a more eventful and fulfilling product. Imagine playing....uhh Hitman 2 but with ALL the textures removed, and the sound, and the lighting. but hey you still got that nice gameplay so who cares?

Also all that stuff is fucking hard work and deserves proper compensation.

Literally made for the sole purpose of getting fucked

rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1891646#search=Bard-Bot animated

Literally forced animation

It's her skintone.

Can someone tell me why the fuck is Hellboy so fucking big in Japan ? Not complaining, just genuinely curious.

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Because he's a big ugly bastard. Perfect for plowing cute girls.

This looks fucking cute. I hope this is what Shantae looks like now, it's an upgrade from Pirate's Curse.

Uhh no thats NOT the reason you fucking lying sack of shit, it was decided to be a single game BEFORE it even released.

Gridman was kino and catered to my fetishes of
-pink hair
-big tiddy
-crazy chicks
-thighs
-tights
and my penis salutes it.

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Look everyone. A homosexual.

typical pleb.

Too bad the new art style is fucking garbage

Why can't they just stick with the art from pirates curse? It was perfect

careful boi i got something better here

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And there's tons of better shows out there that has all those things, plus good writing.

She should reply dilate

You know for a fact they do that to all their girls behind closed doors

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i know rigth? but i like to work whit what i got on this type of shit , adding a bubble seemed kinda of a killer thing for the joke

that's kinda hot

He's not wrong, but bro, the day of innocence (pre 2006-9 Internet) is long gone. The world will never go back to the day of young anymore...

>All the LWA porn where Akko has a dick and fucks the other girls is canon

I like how there were so many easy moments where a panty shot could've happened in LWA and as far as I know I never saw ONE.

Oh fuck, she's top cute. I can't wait to see the actual artwork.
Thank you based WayForward.

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Witches are pure and they all have magic skirts and they also probably don't wear panties

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I want a picture of qt gamer Shantae

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What about Bayonetta?

Now I want her under the name Cereza teaching Akko and the girls how to summon demons like Gomorrah, and scaring and angering the rest of the facultywith her lessons and methods.

sucy a shit

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Luluco was fun and Gridman was great. Word is Promare is good too.

How is it Japanese artists are able to imbue SOUL into American cartoons?

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>half a stocking wrapped around leg and held by toes
now thats innovation, truly pushing the boundaries of fetishism

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Gashi-gashi is fucking god tier.

She wears her hair, no panties at all.
This makes her the most pure.

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>implying stuff like MLaaTR and PPG is not pure soul

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>That telltale line in her inner thigh to indicate her leg connecting to her groin
This picture is literally a 5 degree rotation away from being nsfw.

They absolutely are but with newer cartoons past adventure time era they don't have that special spark the early 2000's cartoons did

When American cartoons have literally nothing to them, adding anything seems like an improvement.

>KLK
>good

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>They absolutely are but with newer cartoons past adventure time era they don't have that special spark the early 2000's cartoons did
>What is the new Looney Tunes shorts

And early 2000s cartoons sucked compared to the 90s ones. And no, this isn't nostalgia talking because I'm an 80s kid. And I think the 90s shows are better than the 60s-80s stuff.

The 2000s was the start of the decline of animation in the west. Both in quality of animation itself, but also quality of talent. A handful of people had control over the entire market. Which is the same state we're in today when the creators of Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Star are all literal fuck buddies who only give their friends a job in the industry. It would be like if the entire gaming industry was controlled by Todd Howard and Kojima.

>I don't know what the hell happened to Ankama
Dofus the MMO and a couple books are all that ever brought money back to Ankama. They've used that money to fund everything else they ever did based on the premise it'd eventually pay for itself in time. It didn't.

wait...whats the character in the sketch underneath Jenny?

Begone.

I mean if they reuse some assets and just polish them more or add to it I'll take it. Add extra animations, costumes more enemies and shit. The key thing is steer away from the level based stuff HGH did and go back to the explorative adventure style and add more story.

>Shanty
No sha as an ah sound so phonetically it reads like this
shah-n-tay

they literally made one bad anime and even then, there was little involvement from them.

>liking good shows means you are westaboo

>Saying this while post OW

I feel like this transformation gimmick was wasted on a game about catching monkeys. What kind of game would I add it to? Dont know, but multiple outfits with weapons and stuff seems like a poor fit for a non violent game series

LWA is one of their few creations that remained consistently decent instead of eventually shitting the bed.

Shantae doesn't have a game on the level of Sonic Adventure 2, fuck off onions drinking genesisfag

Would you a zombie?

How does it work and how do the different costumes work together with the core gameplay?

HGH technically is with all DLC applied, since now it's a game (like SA2) that has many modes of gameplay but only one of them are any good.

>he didn't like YEEEAART
Fucking faggot.

>WF survives on submediocre titles and fanservice
Keep telling yourself that, I’m sure people will conform to your opinion someday.

Yes. Any other answer is wrong

AE3 uses a quick select, similar to HGH does minus the metronome.

However, transformations in AE3 are all broken as fuck, moreso if you bought the extra time crystals.

>hgh with japanese calarts artstyle
lel

>Sonic Adventure 2,
Oh so 1/3rd of the game being passible with a Tamogachi clone in it? Kill yourself Nintenigger, I fucking despise you parasites.

>Can't argue
>make fun of the graphics
at least you know I'm right.

overrated. team pop epic is also shit

What, really? I thought Grindman was just thighs and awkward teenage romance. It's all people shared online. I would've watched it if I knew it had more content to it.

Even zombies can be warm in personality.

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LWA should've tipped you off. It literally has a duo of characters called Hannah and Barbara for Hanna Barbera and even someone called Avery.

Imagine being such a fag you can't into mech shooting or treasure hunting
couldn't be me

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Fags like that shit, faggot. It was shit in SA1, it was worse in SA2. Kill yourself Ninten-drone

I'm glad people are finally waking up to the fact that Trigger is shit and Kill la Kill was a fluke.

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how so? Sounds interesting

>Kill la Kill was a fluke.
But people state that it wasn't even good now, so it can't be a fluke

When was the last time Trigger even brought up Franxx? Like, not even doodles for it.

>When was the last time Trigger even brought up Franxx? Like, not even doodles for it.
>studio stopped appearing on the episode lists for animation after ep15
>A1 doesn't really talk about it now after all the interviews we got over nishigori
>only thing running is the manga but who cares
Why would anyone really?

>tfw no Billy and Mandy reboot by Trigger

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I liked that space cop short anime

>wanting a remake of an older cartoon in 2019

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I just want nice things again, like I had in my childhood. Billy and Mandy is only a few upskirts away from being Panty and Stocking anyway, I have a sliver of confidence in them pulling it off.

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yo ho ho
he took a bite of gum gum

>The year is 2019.
>36 years since Super Mario Bros.
>tfw vidya lacks running.
>tfw spoiled by fast movement from other vidya.

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mentally deficient/ill autists are the exception to the rule.

Am I alone in just not liking Billy's overall character? Like I liked the jokes involving him I just hated the actual character.

This wake brought to you by Studio Trigger.

Wasn't the combined robot a blatant reference to Optimus Prime?

for the millionth fucking time franxx wasn't trigger

Trigger is great as long as you don't let them write.