Is Tomb Raider (1996) genuinly one of the best video games ever made...

The whole game is fine but fuck Natla's mines. Fuck that place.

shit controls

>"less chat, more splat" attitude
Yes this

I literally figured them out by level 3. If you fuck up in this game it's entirely on you. The controls aren't bad, you are bad.

The controls work for the game, but I do agree that its a bit clunky

>I literally figured them out by level 3. If you fuck up in this game it's entirely on you. The controls aren't bad, you are bad.

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>Toby Gard, Lara's creator didn't like the sudden "pin up" culture sourrounding Lara when TRII came out and left the team entirely
>this was his concept art

wot?

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The controls in superman 64 arent that bad really. The game is just really boring.

It came out after SM64

Except that is a bad video game. Please user, do proclaim to us all that Tomb Raider is a bad video game, please do go on. Sure is a good day to shitpost.

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ok?

>with just enough narative context to make you give a fuck about who Lara is and why you should care about her.
Wrong.

How so? You literally got to go see where she lived as it's own level.

How does that make you give a fuck about Lara? She was just as much as an unlikeable cunt back then as she is now.

The only good Lara was LAU one.

>how was she even likeable?
>its not like she got 5 games, comics, toys, commercials and a movie or whatever

That doesn't prove anything. She wasn't likeable, she just had tits and most of her fans were horny teenagers who'd buy anything with her just to get some more fap material.

Its strange, I wouldn't enjoy it if it had been any other game but the find key to open door to push button to open door to pull lever to open hatch to find key to open door gameplay somehow still gets a pass from me.

I don't know what it is about the games but it somehow pulls it off.

>concept art

shut the fuck up retard, accept your L
>hurr durr i didn't like her so no one did
fucktard

yes...?

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Based retard with no reading comprehension skills.

aka shit that doesn't matter in the final product

>Is Tomb Raider (1996) genuinly one of the best video games ever made?
Yes.

Tried playing it a while ago, controls were clunky as fuck and it really hurts the game.

Soul reaver was about as clunky but Raziel was never as jumpy as lara, or needed to be.

user you seem to be missing the fucking point. He drew a big titted babe. They put his big titted babe in the first game. They continued to run with the ifea that Lara was a big tittied babe in the sequel. He got mad about....?

Tried playing (and finished it) a week ago, it has more actual gameplay than most western developed games from the last decade. It never makes me do forced walking. It never makes me pretend to give a shit about an emotive experince. It never makes me do dumb scripted QTE events to progress and feel "immersed". It never holds my hand with markers, tips, glowing secrets or lists of objectives. 99.9% of the games content is actual video game.

If you think you're so good at her games try this out. You will quit at the beginning.
hypersquare.trle.it/

>He got mad about....?
>Toby Gard, Lara's creator didn't like the sudden "pin up" culture

The amount of wannabe hipster zoomer retards here who try to pretend shovelware like this was a classic is getting out of hand.
The original RE game is a classic that your description fits, Tomb Raider was a shitty convoluted slog of terrible camera shots, controls, and overly obtuse puzzles, with some of the worst combat in any game. The entire series was popular because of Lara's tits and once that gimmick got stale around the third game and games like it became more common place the series was seen as the bargain bin shovelware trash it was. You may as well come here and say Blasto was a timeless classic.

>sudden

this was him

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LAU Lara is not that different from the original.

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>The amount of wannabe hipster zoomer retards here

has any user literally ever made such an ironic and un-selfware post in all of Yea Forums history? Holy shit.

People only cared about looking at her.

OG Lara is an absurd pop corn movie universe but LAU Lara's universe unironically felt like a fucking cartoon world.

Busby3D doesn't do any of that shit either. Now tell me how great that game is.

That's because you have to actively remember the location of stuff inside a level.
When you press a button to open a door, the camera doesn't pan to the door you just opened and an NPC doesn't describe what you just saw with your own eyes in case you somewhat missed it.
Then the first reboot happened and everything went to shit.

we used to laugh when we went in the pool in II because her braid floated around and looked like a turd.

Show me any classic female protagonist where this is not always part of her appeal?

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And that's a good thing.

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except one is a good game and one isn't?

>old game good new game bad
Also you're a lying retarded faggot, you posted this shit almost word for word a month ago.

I can't because all classic female protagonists are awful characters.

I always love responses like that because it just confirms exactly what I said. You can't refute anything I said, so you desperately try to turn it around. Now tell me about the precise controls, and engaging combat of Tomb Raider, or continue to larp as some hardcore gamer because you're a 17 year old hipster

do show me the fucking post user if you are so great because i can fucking guarentee you its not me. Had not even started playing TR "a month ago." I will actually wait faggot, let's go.

Yeah, are you sure he made that himself?
>Core Design gave Gard creative control over the game, although it was clear they wanted to market Lara's sex appeal, even asking Gard to implement a nude code into the game which he refused to do.
>His vision for Lara was 'a female character who was a heroine, you know, cool, collected, in control, that sort of thing' and that 'it was never the intention to create some kind of 'Page 3' girl to star in Tomb Raider'

Wanna tell me the reasons why one is good and one is bad there champ?

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>if I can fap to female MCs they are good
Retard

>cant refute

retard, you said "this all would actually apply to a game like Resident Evil" and then went on to describe a bunch of issues with TR that any action shitter brings up about classic RE games all the time. Do you suddenly trust any faggot who says those classic RE games are "bad". No.

>His vision for Lara was 'a female character who was a heroine, you know, cool, collected, in control, that sort of thing'
>OH AND ALSO A WAZZER PAIR OF JUGS M8

Except RE is to this day a good game. TR was always trash.

>if i can fap to female characters they are bad

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>except i say so

cool to know we are going to be able to "refute you" in an given "discussion" user.

If that's what you got from what I said you are beyond retarded.

Tomb Raider is an action puzzle platformer, having precise controls, good camera angles, logical puzzles and level design, and satisfying combat is a required function of the game.
Now then once again would you like to tell me where To Raider eclipses another shovelware garbage game like Blasto, or would you like to continue to say nothing in a desperate attempt to play "epic hardcore retro gamer" man for the Assassin's Creed of it's day for a bunch of fat weebs online.

What else is there to get? You saw a TR thread, had nothing particular to say about it, and just wanted to find an excuse to go "ACSHULLY LOW IQ's..." and start a fucking fight.

Notice how he never said anything about her chest, only you are

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>Now then once again would you like to tell me where To Raider eclipses another shovelware garbage game like Blasto
Easy, i have only heard of one of these.
>AC of its day
HURR BURR POPULAR BAD WATCH ME TELL YOU SALES DONT MATTER UNLESS I CAN POINT IT OUT AS IN INDICATOR OF CASUAL NORMALFAGGOTRY

Wich version of sf2 is this ?
must be from the arcade

>Notice how he never said anything about her chest
He didn't have to say anything about it. He drew her with big tits in a skin tight tank top. His very concept art is also big tits in a tight fitting tank top that shows off her midrif. He's retarded.

Well yeah. Looks like II Turbo given the move she is doing.

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Since it's become obvious at this point you've never even played the original Tomb Raider games, and have at best maybe watched them on YouTube, I'd like to ask what the point of this thread was? It makes you look laughable to anyone like me who's actually old enough to ha e een around and playing games when the series was popular, it makes you look foolish to anyone who reads the thread as they realize you know nothing about the game and lack even the capacity to defend it on the slightest way, and your wild deflections and Ina e babling just make you look like an autistic retard. Is this really how you've chosen to spend your summer vacation from middle school?

At least you finally fucking played it. Most people assume that the original TR games are just wank material because of 90s ads and Feminist retardation.

The original games were really good action puzzle games that felt like Indiana Jones type situations. They were some of the best-selling PS1 games for that reason.

The only good classic TR game is The Last Revelation. The rest are mediocre at best.

Also my favorite. But 1 and 2 were also excellent.

2 is garbage.

Bitch I will fight you.
was it your inability to play the underwater level or what?

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I see the problem here. You're garbage.

Hahahaha! No

>Since it's become obvious

Stopped reading there, you dont even seem to know how poor your perception is. Why should i listen to anyone who can be this wrong with such confidence?

>!

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>His very concept art is also big tits in a tight fitting tank top
Actually the concept art has her showing off her cleavage. Notice how the final model/version of Lara doesn't show this.
>He's retarded.
Nah, he's based

Should I play those games? This thread is making me nostalgic but the PS1 games are too ugly to go back to. Is Anniversary a good remake?

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>dude let's take the worst part of TR1 and crank it up to 11

>9B538D1B-94AB-4B70-9B1D-B28492293FBF

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You hate platforming or something? Or just too dumb for the puzzles?

I was talking about the shooting parts, you absolute faggot

>but the PS1 games are too ugly to go back to

Feels good to not be affected by this. I have a friend who literally doesn't care how good a game actually is, if its earlier than the current gen he refuses to play it today. He NEEDS he latest grafix.

somehow you are still worse though

and what part would that be?

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yes, and the reboot shit ruined the icon.
NuLara must die

seethe more

here is the reterd.
which one of the 4-5 hardcore mongoloids from tombraiderforums are you?

>no argument

3 > 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> Shit >>>> 4

Prove me wrong. Also Anniversary is actually quite good.

WHY cant we get Natural athetic chunners like this again instead of roid chunners?

Fucking UDON and SF3 Art Influence

t. fictional female body make me butthurt

This, I recently managed to get openlara working and it is a blast to play this in native 16:10 with cool water shaders. Too bad it implements the pc version with missing bgm triggers and various available fixes don't work in a custom engine.

tlr sucks

ok, it's bait

the good retards who loved the series left the forums to deviantart long ago, now the SJW shitters from resetera took over and FUCKED with the poser program.

Name a single one that is actually good and not just fapbait.
I'll wait.

Soul.

>I'm perfectly happy with shit as long as it has a famous brand slapped on
shill more, zoomer.

core-design.com/index.html
the fan site with pretty much all the old renders and similar images.

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Wot? Those legs are fucking huge what are you on about? If you actually played chun and not just looked at her default idle pose you would see how fucking big her legs always were always big

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ironic

define "acshully gud" first

you could convince yourself that any female video game protagonist is fapbait if you shitpost hard enough

Why was her artist so obssessed with her teeth?

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>no arguments

trf dumpster has been resetera 2.0 for years

It is a good game but god it is exhausting to play. Everything takes so long. The block pushing and shit. An impatient person's nightmare

Aged like shit, both in terms of graphics and gameplay.

no fuck off retard, there is no point posting what we tgink for you to just shitpost "all shit" every reply. Lay out your standards of approval first then i will suggest females.

>no arguments again and spergs out when called out on it
I accept your concession.

dark age of rendering, it's hard to know where to put in the details when you've already settled on the paperplate face aesthetic

They had literally just learned to model teeth.

what arguments?? We aren't arguing anything yet. Make your terms or fuck off.

I never actually played a Tomb Raider game, I probably should after all the time I spent jerking to Nude Raider pics back in the day

I disagree. For me the original will always be the best and most memorable. It had the best atmosphere and ambiance. Something that I miss in current games are protagonists that don't always throw self aware monologs to let the player know what to do. It really breaks the immersion. Tomb raider 1's main theme is the best one.

Not the user, but what are you even talking about? Sometimes it seems like some peoples' forcefully apply a default excuse that any mildly good looking character must be nothing more than sexualization and sex appeal instead of letting the games speak for itself. It didn't cross my mind when I played the original TR because the gameplay took my attention. Maybe you're its your own fault for projecting and generalizing?

Besides, even she IS a good looking character, on her own, why should that be wrong?

holy shit just how fucking retarded are you?

ok fuck off then user. Fuck me this is all Yea Forums is now.

That user sounds like a male feminist or something. Anything remotely good looking character is always about sex apparently. No wonder modern day games characters are so boring to look at because everything has to be grounded in reality.

I'm still waiting for you examples of good classic female characters.

It's almost like you're unable to read.

I am. You're just throwing nothing, but vague excuses and hollow arguments. Its no wonder other anons can't take you're seriously. You came with a claim and when you anons ask you to explain yourself you resort to dodging the questions.

Vertigo

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Are you mentally ill? Read the reply chain again you absolute retard.

>proved my point
Yeah, now I definitely can see why anons don't take you seriously.

>Is Tomb Raider (1996) genuinly one of the best video games ever made?
back when TR was good
back when Lara was good

What gets me about the newer games is that it's like they have no physics, only context. Like there's no momentum or weight to anything, no real player input, you just stand in the right spot and Lara will do the rest.

they are just scripted shooters with no value. Unless you are really impressed by big budget graphics, I guess...

i want to sniff that statues ass

If only we got this instead of that ugly unsufferable nuLara...

lmao all these butthurt zoomers.

>wow i think this game is good!
>lmao no you dont zoomer you weren't there
>but-
>I SAID ZOOMER

All that fucking nightmare fuel.

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