How are loot boxes different from kinder eggs again? Do we end the services that deliver actual lootboxes, too...

How are loot boxes different from kinder eggs again? Do we end the services that deliver actual lootboxes, too? Is this the end of gacha as we know it? Fuck off.

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user Kinder eggs are banned in America

>kinder eggs don't have rarity tiers
>kinder eggs don't have complex algorithms designed to maximaze consumer money expenditure
>kinder eggs are not given to you for free so you develop a skinner's box complex that later on can be exploited by the game creators

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also, kinderegg toys, card pack, etc. are physical objects that can be resold for actual money

At least if I buy a pack of trading cards I actually get some physical pieces of cardboard that can be resold.

That said, I don't think that loot boxes should be banned from a moral/legal perspective. Banning them will be good for the games industry though, so I can't say that I'd be sad.

>want specific card for a deck for a paper TCG
>buy a playset from a shop for $5
>want specific card for a deck in an online CCG
>spend $20 on worthless imaginary packs to get a single copy

>but it's ok because you can destroy all the other cards you just opened to get the other copies

fuck lootboxes

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werent they banned for having small parts inside candy/chocolate? not for the lootbox reason op listed?

>buy a playset from a shop for $5
Yeah good luck unless the card is a common. More like buy a playset for 45 dollars.

Also most online CCGs let you dust and craft cards. I don't know how you could possibly be trying to list that as a bad thing. You get so much bulk in card games - its great to be able to turn bulk into useful cards. In a real TCG, if you pulled a rare card that isnt meta you may as well have pulled a common because that shit wont sell for more than a buck.

Not for the surprise mechanics. Yes.

>you cannot trade things in game for money
Nice logic.
So lootboxes are okay if they send you an ounce for chocolate?

Oh no I didn’t get what I wanted in my kinder egg. I want another one.

Oh someone gave me a kinder egg as a gift.

>physical media
I can make the argument you have too much shit in your house then.

>$45 for a playset
Nobody is forcing you to play meta decks, and even if you do, those cards will mostly hold their value. Digital cards are worthless.

I'd rather have the crafting mechanic than not, but they're painfully stingy with it. All online card games have tiny pack sizes and have huge requirements to craft anything. In Eternal for example I'd have to break down thousands of commons to make one legendary.

why would you fucking defend lootboxes anyway

All right well then aiming for platinum trophies is robbing me of time. Who cares right. Yet tens of millions of people love achievements for some reason?

Why do you think they’re popular? Apparently a lot of people like them.

Kinder eggs absolutely have rarity tiers and algorithms, how hopelessly naive are you?

Reselling things you get from lootboxes is partly why they're illegal in countries such as the Netherlands.

>TCGs have to be less kikey
>worthless reddit-tier loot crates get shut down
>gachashit gets shut down
Literally no cons whatsoever

Kinder eggs have physical items and a value attached to them based on the ability to resell. card games have physical value attached to them based on the ability to resell.
Loot boxes are an item you spend money on, and then can't resell or else you get banned. The rates are very rarely, if ever published anywhere (which is a huge red flag in civilized countries like south korea), and generally the items available therein are shit and have almost 0 inherent value to the game.

The REAL reason they're gambling is because they attach a real money value to them directly via the price of keys/boxes themselves, but don't allow you to do with them what you please. It's gambling. Basically they've been skirting by the laws on gambling by doing what japs do with pachinko, you buy all the metal balls for a direct money value, then use them to play, and you can trade them in for prizes, but never money again, even though they've got a direct money value.

Imagine when companies start selling expansion packs and DLC as lootbox rewards

Mr bones can I please get off your wild ridd

You fucking child.

>200HP
>110 attack with just 3 energy, no downsides
What the fuck is this?

What are you even talking about? Literally what card does this describe? Tell me right now.

Should we tell him?

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Trash

What the fuck. We give YGO shit for its powercreep, but this is some shit.

Binder spot

The GX attack Grand Bloom is the only thing remotely decent about the card. Leafeon GX us pretty bad, it would get assblasted by other GX cards.

YGO is way crazier than Pokemon. Way, way crazier. Reshizard may be really strong, arguably OP, but you have to judge cards by the format they exist in. They have higher numbers, sure, but it doesn't really matter. Hitmonchan in Base format is better than Reshizard in current Standard formats because in its format, Hitmonchan is the #1 and it isn't even possible to dispute it. And that's a card that can do 40 damage max. Look at cards in their proper context.

Not that user but you have to admit that pikarom, Zapdos and reshizard are all way too overtuned for their own good and make playing different decks or stage two decks difficult to impossible

>basic
wat

Or you could just tech cards in to counter them like in literally any other format or any other card game
Just play Ditto Prism Star and a Dewgong if your deck already plays TCE

>slot machines have varying intensities of lights and sounds for each level of prize
>loot boxes do this too
>its not gambling honest

How do you people think card games make the money to keep printing cards? If you're not into competitive, don't worry about the money cards and just play with your friends using all the thousands of cards that are able to exist thanks to the existence of meta/money cards.

Contrary to what Wizards wants you to believe, kitchen table is by FAR the most played format by people instead of their rotating money sink format.

itt: Zoomer user doesn't understands physical media.