CEO 2019 - Smash Ult Top 8

I believed in Gluto...

anons the inside of my dick is burning, it feels like there's pee stuck inside that won't come out
what the hell is going on

how much do you think myrian is seething rn

I love Zelda!

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This is street fighters rightful timeslot

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zelda cunny!

i would take out every other fe nigger for Lyn

Smash and Tekken are my spectator games because they're just more entertaining to watch at a high level than to play at my low level.

Piranha plant originally wasn't a dlc character, it was a bonus for early buyers, THEN dlc.

I don't normally watch Ultimate but it's no fun without having a player to root for. Who should I be rooting for?
Fuck Olimar

NERF HIM AGAIN

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UTI probably
I get them now and then. It feels like you have to pee but nothing comes out, really fucking annoying.

i wouldn't really say Plant counts as DLC, since he was gonna be in base roster, and he comes with the game

Maybe if it was still USF4

But I actually enjoy taking showers.

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you're stoned m8
of the kidney variety

why do people spam leffen was wrong or right? right about what? that pokemon trainer sucks?

>this character you had to download was not a downloadable character

anyone but Dalips

just like mewtwo in s4, who was also trash

Feels like Puppeh's random forward smashes are throwing off everyone. Even Leo kept getting hit by them before he adapted game 2.

Blame Mortal Kombat 11.

>tell my brother to redeem his shit
>never does
>has to buy it now
stupid nigger

sf5 is fucking shit honestly

will it go away on its own? can I do anything about it?
it's not the first time I've had this feeling but I don't know why it's happening

He's said multiple times that PT isn't worth the effort

Only applies to Meleefags. Ultimatebros put their Siwtch in a ziplock bag and play while showering.

This. Anyone besides Dabuz nigger lips. He's the HBox of Ultimate.

>since he was gonna be in base roster
Source?
>he comes with the game
Not anymore

He really didn't. It was still last stock with both at nearly/over 100%.

lol raid in twitch chat
based

Leffen said PT sucks and isn't worth using because he couldn't get results.

It comes and goes for me. If you go to a doctor they'll probably give you antibiotics that will help make it go away faster.

HNNNNNNNNG MORE ZELDA

Basically whenever Leffen says something about Ultimate meta like what characters are good or bad, everyone spams it when that character wins or does well in a top 16

Leffen played pokemon trainer when Ultimate came out but now says she sucks

Leo is the hbox of ultimate tho

>meleefags seething about puff even in ultimate
sad!

Based Marss

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Christ living in his head.

this pokemon trainer just wanted to go home

DAMN THAT WAS QUICK

L
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MY NAME IS YOSHIKAGE KIRA

>3 stocked
Utter embarrassment.

Leffen was right

THREE STOCKED
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Ouch.

>top 3 in the world
So Leo Mars and who?

Fucking raped

ZOOMERS BTFO

HE'S JUST A KID MARS

Reminder that Samus is for Monster and Animal dicks only

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He's nothing like Hbox, way more like Armada

That was really one sided. Also Leo pretty much won.

KILLER QUEEN BAITSU ZA DUSTO

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Dabuz is like Hbox in that he plays a terrible character that everyone hates to watch. Leo is at least entertaining.

Ally

He's right tho

BITE ZA DUSTO

I'm trying to read the copypasta but chat is scrolling too fast, post it here

Holy fuck he got destoryed.

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lol

Go watch Jojo, newfag.

Dabuz

Tweek was arguably better than Leo before he simultaneously got destroyed by Leo's Joker and randomly became a mental wreck

Tweek

Nah Dabuz is /ourguy/ tier
Only thing wrong about him is his character

>leave for 30 minutes
>Twitch chat has somehow become 100 times worse
uhh

do you think not cumming for over a week could potentially have caused it?
I guess I'll just drink lots of water and try to flush myself out a bit

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aight ggs ally

me

AHH YES, MY FAVORITE NINTENDO CHARACTERS HERE SNAKE VS. JOKER

3rd party in Smash was a fucking mistake

I liked Leo better when he played Ike. UNGA BUNGA was dumb but it was fun to watch. Fucking anime teen fag is boring to watch.

I'm not a doctor I dunno.
I just know I had the same symptoms as you, went to the doctor, peed in a cup and they told me my dick was infected and I took antibiotics until it went away.

Post a more risque 2D beauty than me.

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I'm so fucking sick of your stupid Jojo references I mean it's not even that good so fuck off.

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Quit being a bitch.

>#1 char vs #2 char
Based

>UNGA BUNGA was dumb
tamtam is not in smash yet, user

ALRIGHT YOU WANNA KNOW FINE I ADMIT IT

Joker matches are fun to watch.

Does Ally still have a Mario? Because Joker looks like a fucking awful matchup for Snake

the thing is it literally doesn't matter if Leffen is right or not, its become a meme to say whenever the character he says is bad does well

based leo

>approaching as snake at 150 when joker has arsene
retard

Mario gets memed on by Joker even worse

Mario is even worse

>randomly became a mental wreck
It was not getting into summit that broke Tweek. He thought he was entitled to an invite and did nothing to get in and as a result didn't get to go. He hasn't been right since.

MKLeo's Base Joker is just so smooth. Every combo is so fluid.

>Joker
>Snake
>Cloud
Smash is a better PS All Stars than the actual PS All Stars.

Joker be making these fools look like clowns.

Leo is fucking good. Here's some western art

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leo would body his mario even harder, snake has an actual chance

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She looks really soft and probably smells really nice.

GOD MY DICK PLEASE POST MORE

I hope he takes it so I can watch you guys seethe and cope. Unfortunately Leo is there so it wont happen, but still!

isnt that one of the villains from justice league unlimited?

Oh wow, he's gotten better.

Unless that's an old picture then he's gotten worse.

joker's counter is such bullshit

imagine the smell...

Should I draw smash lewds?

>/cum/ top 3 guaranteed
How can other continents even compete?

always

leo always wins baby

Joker's counter is literally unpunishable on a platform

nigger

/cum/? nigger just say NA

Nikita might as well be a final smash. It works out.

It's quite old-ish. It's from may, and this one is more recent.

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I know Joker only looks this good cause of Leo but holy shit.

Please just keep posting more, I love it.

Let's be honest here. No one except MKLeo would have done that gun spiral to dodge the Nikita missile. Joker is top tier only in the hands of MKLeo.

Ally pretty much just said fuck it

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Joker is effectively a swordie when fighting Mario and Mario gets trashed by swordies, should have stuck with Snake

JOKER STOP STOP HE'S ALEADY DEAD

I wonder if Ally realizes he's made a terrible mistake right now

How about you throw him?

cool, lumpytouch is in the chat

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youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g

Jump up and grab.

MARIO IS GETTING FUCKED
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

its like the character and player were made for eachother or some bullshit. He uses every single move is his arsen(al) to it's maximum potential

He still cant draw faces

>this tether canceling movement
fuckin' mkleo is styling on ally now

Joker is basically Shiek with limit.

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>make DLC character
>make DLC character broken as fuck
>make DLC character $5.99 jew bucks

>Yea Forums: It's okay when Nintendo does it!

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it was looking like a JV4 for a little bit there

Or maybe Joker is that fucking good, retard.

mars is the only hope

Name another Joker on Leo's level.

i mean its an extra character you're paying for, so they should be good

Remember Bayonetta?

Jumping and then landing and then grabbing is a lot of frames, he has plenty of time to just stop using counter

joker is busted but leo is the bustedest

was that jab or ftilt

>top tier
>highest skill ceiling
>advanced techniques and movement options
Is Joker the Melee Fox of Ultimate? Smash needs more characters like that.

leo is broken, not joker

I know. It's like Joker was made for MKLeo. You couldn't find a more dominant pair of player/character in the entire FGC than them at the moment.

It'll never be as bad as when Cloud came out
Which will never be as bad as when Bayo came out

It was Jab
FTlit hits twice

>he thought the kpop loving mexican wouldn't win CEO2019

where are the other top 3 jokers, retard

>Joker is top tier only in the hands of MKLeo.
nah the character is genuinely good. frame 3 counter, gun downwards and arsene is retarded, plus all that dragdown shit without him and the grappling hook that for some reason annoys people

me

>pay 6 bux for a dlc character
>they suck

That's just dumb.

joker is based but MKLeo is based as well.
stop whining nerfag

more like brawl metaknight

jab

Ehh, they're stylized. I like them myself.

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>Just being in this thread ends my no fap
I really am "addicted" Can't even make it 24 hours without looking at something lewd.

The recovery on it is pretty ridiculous my man.

then there is no hope

jab

Joker's a good character, but Leo is really the only good Joker.
Smash 4 Cloud and Bayo ruined the game, and everyone had one in top 8.

Joker is top tier, not the best, but clearly top 3.. There's no deny that. It's just MKLeo manages to bring him to Bayo4 tier but only for him.

A DLC fighter should be good idiot

Yes, all the characters in top 8 are really good.

He's Cereza's kid without a doubt. He's just as broken as that bitch.

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I hope all of the DLCs are as good as him, honestly. Everybody thought Joker sucked at first, too.

It ain't Joker. He's basically the Armada of Ultimate and Joker is his Peach.

Did Tweek drown in pools again?

post feet

Remember when Brawl was so bad they unbanned Meta Knight because it was the only way players had any fun.

cute

There is no clearly defined top 5 characters in Ultimate.

CEOYO

dq'd himself for personal reasons

Frame 3 counter which can be held for a really long time and gets him to go mode. Honestly his counter is what's so busted-- the payoff versus the risk is really in Joker's favor and it hurts pressuring him. It's not as bad as say, Witch Time was, but it has the same kind of effect on a match where the aggressor getting in suddenly has to be extremely careful.

Tweek didn't go.
twitter.com/TweekSsb/status/1144245637371826176

He's good, in theory. But quite literally, no one else has managed to pull out all the bullshit that MKLeo has done with Joker. It's like Inkling is supposedly great, in theory, but hasn't won a lot of tournaments.

>just as broken
>as smash 4 bayo
haha no, the opposite actually

Tweek dropped out for personal reasons IIRC

he couldn't attend since he got diagnosed for cancer and is getting treatment

That's a retarded argument. If you say Leo is carrying Joker than you can make the same case for Stinkling, Pichu, Peach, Palutena, etc.

Joker is not an easy character to pick up and play and Leo obviously has a lot of faith in the character. He even said Joker was broken in the beginning of May and he kept labbing him even after having his worse placement at Umebura at 33rd place. Leo has not dominated this hard with any other character and he may soon have 3 supermajors using the same character. He didn't win 2 supermajors back to back with Ike, Lucina, Wolf nor Greninja.

I hope people aren’t actually gonna start hating on Leo just because he’s winning. That’s petty shit, he’s a nice guy, very humble and Joker isn’t even broken or lame (faggots have started to claim otherwise when before Leo people had Joker in fucking mid tier).
Guys like HBox and SonicFox earned their haters but Leo has been nothing but a stand up guy to everyone.

terrible post
back to /r/smashbros

Another Tourney for Leo..
There's no one left to beat him.

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Shes old and [/spoiler]not[/spoiler]busted now a days. New blood time.

As others have said though its mainly just MK Leo finding his soul mate not the character. Hence why no one else is using Joker. Just Leo.

brawl mk was an incredibly easy character compared to other top tiers. Falco is the only one that surpasses him in how easy he is to play

Brawl meta was at the point he surpressed other players and was up for ban consideration.

Joker is no where near that. Leo is just in another league of his own with the instincts. Doubtful a single player here would have pulled off that off stage nikita dodging shit with the guns.

Going by maximum potential shown, Joker is indeed top 3 material. It's just only one person has managed to bring out said potential so far.

Are you seriously this fucking delusional?

nothing wrong with that

I don't hate Leo.
I even got a poster signed from him, and he gave me a hug.

We played a friendly and he trashed me with Ganon, but I took a stock off.
Highlight of my life.

It's Superwoman -Evil Mary Marvel- from the Crisis on Two Earths movie.

leo is a great guy, but people are always going to hate on any player if they dominate hard enough

I'm positive theres players in Japan that can prob win against him.

People really need to stop saying Joker is the new Cloud or Bayo.
A character can be the best without being broken, like Fox in Melee or Pika in 64.

I just arrived

Who's winning?

>nah the character is genuinely good
Joker is a good character but so is:

>Olimar
>Snake
>Paulutena
>Peach
>Lucina
>Wario
>Greninja
>Mega man
>Cloud
>Inkling

Most of these characters don't even need nerfs, but they are good. Character is fine unless they dominate

He didn't say broken. He said specifically said Joker is top 3 and not broken.

based Joker
good shit. i would be cool if all the other dlc were top/high tier as well. at the lowest high mid tier

Or maybe Leo is just that good. Remember how many people were calling Ike (really Ike's nair) broken a few months ago? Lucina?

Leo was a believer in Joker's potential from the beginning and started grinding him when he got dismissed as a gimmicky mid-tier. That is why we are seeing what we are seeing.

>highest ceiling
Pacman? Ken/Ryu?

Stop posting pictures of 2D. This is the only image any of you ever need.

Gratzi.

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Looking good, Joker!

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So what you're describing is some one really liking a character and labbing it out super hard. Thats a completely reasonable way to get as good as him. Doesnt mean the character is busted. That means if Leo felt the same about another character he'd get similar results. Cause Leo is busted now.

>Japan
>the nation of everyone still saying "GRENINJA IS TOTALLY TOP TIER GUYS"
kek

based sauceposter

Joker doesn't dominate though.
Domination is when overcentralization happens, like Meta Knight and Bayonetta.

How much does Nintendo pay you to shill? Selling pay2win shit is mobile tier kike shit, stop making excuses for Nintenjew.

MKCHAD. He's in Grand Finals since this tourney is free

if i recall mkleo's joker got zero to death by a game & watch once

That's okay they're generally shit though

What's this? You people are actually worshipping a spic?

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I thought he was talking about arsens counter?

you took this from JohneAwesome's video didn't you

Smashers dont really care about the players up to a certain point if they play a character they dislike. If he keeps winning with Joker, people will hate him because thats just how the community is right now

>lucina
>with those big of breasts

>Ike
>fun to watch
That's a negative, ghost rider

Meta Knight was used by almost half of Brawl's top players. I counted 39 Meta Knights on the 2014 SSBBRank.

>mass replying
The ultimate seethe and cope

Why does Sakurai put in so much effort for the 3rd parties, but then we still have a Ganondorf that uses almost none of the moves from his series?

How come Ken gets to be the only Echo that has enough differences that he could be considered a clone, while Daisy and Dark Samus only get height/movement differences

Why do Cloud and Joker get their own unique victory themes straight from the games, while characters like Yoshi, Earthbound Boys, and Inkling have their's butchered?

stop whining, nerfag
squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease
git gud

But Joker is a weird case here. We've seen other players win those characters so we can see some character is good no matter who plays it. Joker is only OP when MKLeo is playing him. Do you nerf him because of one player? Because that's like a horrible precedence.

>Lucina with a hyper sexualized body instead of literal stick figure proportions.

Into the trash it goes. Way to ruin my immersion.

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peopl cant understand a character can be good without being broken, no use explaining it to the brainlets

Anyone who dominates should understand they'll get hated. Shouldnt stop them from being good people. Im sure Leo will be fine but he's gonna get a crowd rooting against him for the upset. It's just the natural order. Im sure he gets it.

ice climbers wouldve been cool but the 3.1.0 patch fucked hard with their desyncs. Prepatch daisy was also broken with a high skill ceiling too. Hopefully ken mains start labbing out cool shit.
yeah it was only because literally everyone mained meta knight, so no one wanted to bother learning any other characters. diddy kong, wario, marth, and snake were all sick in brawl but because they sucked compared to meta knight, so no one used them.

That Pauline is like two days ago. One of the reasons why I actually support him on Patreon is because he's actually improving in real time.

twitter.com/JWonggg/status/1145517273119121408

it's not a meme?

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Leo 99.9%, he just effortlessly 3-0’d Winner’s finals and I’m struggling to think of anyone who’d take a set off him right now, never mind 2.

Best thing Japan has produced is duck-snake.

twitter.com/mkleosb/status/1123803123418587136?lang=en

Based retard

Why would there be a smell. Does she not shower?

Joke's on you, I've always hated MKLeo even when he played a character that I liked.

>how much does Nintendo pay you to bzzz? Selling bzzz shit is bzzz bzzz shit, stop making excuses for bzzzz
with all these buzzwords one could mistake you for a bee

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Leo's Ike was never as strong as his Joker. He was already losing badly to Light and Nairo at Glitch. Even Leo's Lucina wasn't as good, judging by Tweek and Samsora, and everyone agrees that Lucina is top 10. I have no idea how people can argue that Joker isn't top tier.

Unless they're Nintendo characters, then they're bad (with the exception of Fire Emblem shilling)
See (Sm4sh) Mewtwo pre buff, Lucas, Roy, and Piranha Plant.

The only way for people to be happy is for no character to ever win

Google, actually.
But Johne is b-b-based!

>that first reply

lol

wait, is it over?

because you only watch the NA scene right?

If you've seen japan's majors, there's a shitload of people who are one tricks with midtiers and they're ridiculously good. NA's top 8s are always top tiers. Japans isnt

sakurai pretty much said that ken really shouldn't be considered an echo fighter due to how different he is from ryu, but ken is "the original echo fighter" so he has the designation anyway

There are 73 or something fucking characters in this game. Fact is you are not gonna get a solid tier list until the game's life is over honestly. It's just so much to fucking learn. You know often people just forget ceretain character are in the game? Its like if there were 20 completely different Dans or some shit. And instead of pockets they were all someone mains.

i want Marss to lose to Leo just so we can get some drama on twitter

go get a time machine, then go back to the early 2000s and ban pikachu from Smash 64

oh and let me add that you are a nigger and should fall down some stairs

I'd like to see Shuton go up against his Joker. He's always seemed to destroy his other characters.

DLC characters are a fighting game staple because of the competitive aspect. These characters positively change the flow of the game, improve metas and keep the interest in the game going for years at top and casual levels.

Its so brainlet of a move to try and look at it from the typical "HURR DURR MICROTRANSACTIONS" perspective. Make something good for people to spend money on and Joker fits that so far

That was the point I'm trying to make. Joker doesn't dominate yet, he just has the potential too but who knows if other players can become good with him

>3.1.0 fucked with their desynchs
no lol. It removed one and it was the one that GimR showed could lead to a infinite on certain characters.
Then they found a new, easier one RIGHT after

>My evidence is this except for this part that doesnt count because it doesnt line up with my evidence
Retard

they're on a """"short""""" break

Leo is gonna wreck Marss so fucking ahrd its gonna be the world's shortest grand finals and then Marss will have a mental tirade on twitter once again.

okay now post a recent statement that isnt from when mkleo got destroyed in japan

Have you ever heard of a fighting game?

You mean the nation that's actually beaten MKLeo?

Meant for

fucking finally

Joker isn’t lame though, in fact he’s barely top tier (carried entirely by Leo) and one of the more aggressive and stylish characters, look at all the cool custom combos and setups Leo just comes up with on the fly.

Ok fuckers, since playing Joker is apparently "unbased and for faggots", what are some characters that I must play so I can please your tiny edicks?

Cross Counter is still a thing? LOL

this

>1 person starts winning everything
WAH WAH GAME IS DEAD AND STAGNANT!!! HES KILLING THE GAME
>Multiple people start winning no clear dominant player
lol this game is so inconsistent lmao

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ah well i guess i stand corrected. I remember going into the ice climbers discord and asking them if icies could ever win a super major, they unanimously said no, it would be impossible as a solo main without bracket luck of the gods.

>I hope people aren’t actually gonna start hating on Leo just because he’s winning.
It's already happening, it's been happening it fact it was happening before smash 4's life even ended, around the time he started using Bayo, and it carried right over to Ultimate. Sad, really.

Joker

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3rd parties have a say in how the character design goes and move approval. Sonic is a good example of this with his taunt change and limits on his colors.

For the classics, it goes back more to Saki not wanting to change the characters drastically as he feels he'd alienate fans of the oldies.

>Joker is barely top tier
A lot of pros have him around top 5 now. Don't be retarded.

fags will forever whine and complain

welcome to the fgc

Jesus fucking christ

king dedede for some epic dededestruction hueueueuueueueueue

And I'm saying going by what has been shown so far with a character being played to its absolute best, Joker/MKLeo seems to be a good contender for an automatic top 3 spot. I'm not saying Joker is broken, I'm just saying going by what we've seen, Joker being played by MKLeo is just that good.

DDD
Bowser
K. Rool

Shame since Leo has like 7 characters he can play.

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But he slaps up Japanese players when he decides to fly there.

I just hope MKleo doesn't say something like:
>"git gud"
>get on my level
>im the best in the world
>no one can beat me
like zero did

People want to see unpredictability. If people expect someone to win and they have a huge win streak going on, people will get bored and start hating you for it. Everyone fucking hates Bardock in DBFZ and whoever that giant ape retard is in SFV, the same thing is happening with Leo.
Fuck, this isn't even an FGC thing either, it extends to other sports, except those people are far more aggressive and people actually do get spat on for being too good.

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That was before he went to Japan, retard. Even now he's saying Joker is top 10 and that he hasn't optimized his Joker to the fullest potential.

I stopped taking this kind of complaint seriously when people called UMvC3 random

Marss don't know how to fight Olimar

ignore these faggots. they are nerfags wanting wins to be handed down to them without any hard work

What is Leo doing that's so different than everyone else? I can't figure it out. Like the jump uairs while people are falling to stage. That doesn't work for anyone else, everyone airdodges through it free. But somehow Leo does it constantly. Is he just in their head? Sometimes it feels like people playing against him are suddenly on tranquilizers.

assert your dominance by playing plant

And why are you such an insufferable whiny faggot?

Yeah welcome to the whinelands where faggots reign. The last comment I've only ever seen actually apply to SFV. But honestly my bigger problem with that game is how overdesgined and boring it is to play so whatever.

HE'S GONNA JUMP

Why weren't people crying about all the Wolfs, Lucinas and Warios the same way they are crying about Joker? Is it because he is DLC?

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Too be fair, ZeRo was at a point where all of those were true.
It just came crashing down when he lost to some literal who Palutena, and Bayonetta.

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Entirely because of Leo and “potential” because he’s new.

my point was that lotsa people say broken and dont actually mean it, and leo is one of them

That was crazy

People were crying nonstop about Wolf, Lucina, Olimar, and Snake before Joker dropped.
Even then it's only relatively recently that people started crying about Joker.

This is the first domination streak Ultimate has, no player has been as consistent as Leo the past month and a half

leo is humble as fuck, him saying something like that would be extremely out of character

>One of the reasons why I actually support him on Patreon
Eh I shouldn't tell you how you should spend your money but you really should support better artists

He has completely mastered his character more than any over player. Perfectly in sync with it's movement.

>sucked em
damn wadi has TWO dicks

>Iron armor
What the fuck was Hbox even thinking of when he said that? Minecraft?

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It really can't be helped here. He is just so dominant with Joker here. I can see why people would complain because other than PT, I don't think anyone at the current meta is a match for him no matter the situation.

>Is it because he is DLC?
Yes.

fuck I miss that show

he should. Charisma is what makes this whole esports thing work

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What happened to the surgence of wolves anyway? I've barely seen him anymore.

he corrected himself at least

>RAWR user! RAWR!

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You're only allowed to play UNORTHODOX BUT STILL FAIRLY EFFECTIVE MIDTIERS. Pray that they don't get big buffs too.

He’s always had the best fundamentals in Smash. That’s why he can pick up any character and shit on people with them.

>rosalina CP against ZSS
someone must have paid dabuz to pick this shitty character

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He's done something similar before. He called someone "gratis."

Same thing that happened to Lucina. The month ended and people wanted a new flavor.

I've never seen such a slutty comment come off as so endearing.

>yfw it's glue tony with the double d

Should have stuck with Olimar

>Rosa v ZSS
oh god the smash 4 ptsd

>it goes back more to Saki not wanting to change the characters drastically as he feels he'd alienate fans of the oldies.

But Link tho...
And also Sm4sh/Ultimate Bowser is basically a completely different character from his Melee/Brawl counterpart.

I wish Sakurai practiced what he preached.

zackray stopped travelling as much

Rosa's new nair seems really bad

He's most likely an anti-meta character, much like Puff and Peach in Melee. Granted, he hasn't reached Smash 4 Cloud/Bayonetta tiers of retardedness, but Joker is slowly climbing the ladder. He might have more trouble with bait & punish characters, but this has become rock paper scissors where Joker beats paper and scissors, but his secondary beats rock. You're fucked, and that's why people are having ire

5 bucks a month isn't a big spend, user. You wasted 4 times as much on the steam sale on games you're not gonna play. Out of the western artists, there really isn't much better either.

We need more villains in the FGC. The one thing that was good about Sonic Fox in his furry prime was how good of heel he was when he was winning with that stupid suit.

You should always be loyal to your wai-

I think Protobanham could potentially beat Leo after seeing their set yesterday. Very close games. Would have liked to see a best of 3 between them.

Hes basically perfect at using base Joker's strength. He knows how combo up, grab, upair, grapple using platforms to build up so much percent. Also knows how use gun to his advantage on recovery which gives him so much space. If you can be deadly without Arsene, you play the character at another level

>"Iron armor"
>"Zeo"
Hbox needs sleep

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Link is fine in Ultimate. Especially Young Link.

Leo is gonna fucking devastate Marss if they meet in finals.

why are you complaining like a faggot?

Is there still Street Fighter left? What's the meta like? I haven't watched since EVO.

you mean first to 3

>You wasted 4 times as much on the steam sale on games you're not gonna play.
No need to project I didn't buy anything but I get it people like what they like taste is subjective

can't wait for Marss to lose to Leo again

I just want Nintendo characters treated with the same love as these invaders.

He's just doing it on purpose at this point.

Marss will DQ again wont he.

I’ve heard that before but what exactly is “fundamentals”?

What was Marss's entrance?

This is very out-of-character for Lyn, please do not post this.

MAKE LUMA TANKIER; SAKURAI.

has nobody told these people that if you can't grow a beard it is better to shave it?

To be fair, during his run, Zero had completely earned the right to say those things.

Leo tried maining him, barely accomplished anything with him, and everyone realized he was a meme

Hopefully, there needs to be something entertaining to look forward to.

Nobody played Bowser because he was so bad tho. Characters like Ganon and Falcon are extremely popular for the "Disrespect" and the memes they spawned.

Because you're not licking my cornhole.

Nah he gets plenty

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T. Link and Y. Link play close enough to classic.

Memory is shit but after melee, changes to the old cast have all been gradual. One or two moves might change and properties get reworked. But overall, none of them have gotten the Mega Man/Ryu works.

the meta is no fun allowed.

I hate Leo but I want Marss to seethe hard.

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I thought it was Luigi

>Lucina 4x the size she actually is
Lol

That's tourneytalk for not running into a punch like a retard.

whinning about Joker saying:
"Man joker just saps the fun out of the game."

when was the last time Leo even sent to losers

I haven't played Smash since Brawl literally came out, but Rosalina looks fucking overpowered as shit with her little star.

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just his knowledge of the basic mechanics of the game outside. his spacing, his neutral, his punish game, his edgeguarding etc.

ill be at the next major and beat leo's joker for you guys dont worry

>Want to see more sick Joker shit
>Want to see Marss seethe

win win

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Pit was changed drastically from Brawl to Smash 4.

GOML

>sakimi
(lol

she's considered low tier in ultimate

Name one player, any, that can and will use Joker's air spiral to dodge a NIkita Missile. That's the difference. MKLeo completely understands Joker's moveset, other players are just theorycrafting and simply fail to use the correct moves at the right time at an actual match.

Post more lewds.

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rosa is actually pretty shitty in ultimate, was top 10 in 4 though

except by the fact that he always tierwhore every top character every patch

please dont make a shooting

4 times 0 is still 0 user
It's also perfect

SFV top 8 was earlier in the afternoon. Karin and Rashid are the top tiers, a couple others are interchangeable for that the most part

She was in 4 before DLC. Now she's just good.

If you think the Earthbound reps' new victory theme is worse than the utter mess that was the Brawl/4 one than I don't know what to say to to you
also Inklings' is fine

My point is that if you check your finances you also have expenses on needless luxuries. We're all fans of videogames, ultimately an expensive and completely superfluous form of entertainment, don't attempt to put yourself in some form of moral high-ground, we're watching a smash tournament a really expensive game to play.

Things universal to the game regardless of character like movement, spacing, applying safe pressure and reads. That’s why he’s so good at basic characters with good hitboxes like Lucina.

Things that work in almost any fighting game whether smash counts is up to you with almost any character like knowing how to block, not whiffing, or occupying space with attacks

why does invincibility after respawning exist?

lol

That was to Zero iirc and that's because they're buddies.

>SFV top 8
Has it really dropped off that it is no longer the main event?
Damn I hope EVO isn't shit.

superheavies

That fucking SPIKE

based

I think it''s pretty cute that the previous melee and Smash 4 champs are commentating.

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He got sloppy toward the end

best tittyninja

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>Hitting a pro with Snakes forward smash
Okay., Ally is a madman.

>thinking any of these characters look overpowered compared to brawl characters

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definitely not what i meant

She was a top 10 character in Smash 4, but she's considered low tier in Ultimate. Her damage output is mediocre and she struggles to kill, while she has a huge frame and is incredibly light.

based
cringe nigger
>farm zss stocks with fucking diddy and sheik
>IM LE BEST BLAYER
>gets raped by winning matchups vs salem and leo
>I WAS LE BEST 5 YEARS AGO WITH NO COMPETITION BUT A STUBBORN ZSS PLAYER GIB MONEY
spacing and awareness of your opponent's movement, leo is fucking insane

Can we all agree that this Smash Ult is the best Smash entry up to date?

So you can't get hit as soon as you spawn ala Marvel. Same reason why the transitions exist in Fighterz after a character dies or after a round in MK or SF.

Literally, git gud. If it's top tier, then surely anyone else would be able to get the same results he did. But they didn't and they lost, repeatedly, for 50 games straight.

Because you'd get body'd as soon as you pop back into a combo.

Least this game fixed it so invincibility time shrinks the longer you stay on the platform.

>what goes up... must get up... aired

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>HBox
>previous champ
He gave Wizzy the rod earlier today user

Yea Forums is absolutely awful at smash, why would you listen to them? Play who you want and tell everyone who doesn't like it to suck your cock

He always has been. He was a Brawl player

I like playing it the most yeah. Miss the modes in melee tho.

I still prefer Melee.
Ultimate's good into off stage shit happens, with Smash 4's terrible ledge mechanics.
That being said Ultimate is very good.

SOmeone beat my lewds

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>also Inklings' is fine

>No fanfare/cheering

yeah okay.

Also everyone knows the Melee version of the Earthbound theme is the best.

He's doing what Zero did the first year of Smash 4, playing better than everyone else.
Third eye is real.

?
They gave SFV the 1 pm spot because its one of the best time slots for the international audience

I still like melee more. But Ult is a big step up over Smash 4.

Marss is cute and I want to suck his cock

prefer melee but ultimate is a good second

Would you a genderswapped Ike?

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Mechanically melee is still the most interesting, by a lot. But as an overall package ultimate certainly gives you the best value for money, and it's the best balanced by a good margin.

it's boring. More fun deciding what character to play than actually playing

>robotics

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it's great but i wish the online wasn't a literal pile of shit

Why is Marss so insufferable

Ally's snake is actually really sick

the boots?

how could a man be so gay that he wouldn't

you should lose your invincibility after leaving the floating platform

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It's fine, yes. It's worse than what it's based on, but saying there's no cheering is like complaining the Mario victory theme isn't 8-Bit or that Pokemon's doesn't have the post-battle fanfare.
Also I think the Earthbound modern one is almost as good as the Melee one, bite me.

I want Marss to get a crack at Leo
Ally got fucked

And Marss just got sent to the moon.

That makes sense. Pretty neat they are doing that now.

I'll beat off for you user thanks for the dump.

Zero had a gigantic winning record on Leo, the fuck are you smoking?

>"Psssst Ultimate is inferior to Melee"

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I would if their holes weren't so warm and wet.

I think Hbox is dead and this is his ghost commentating.

He's a smug sore loser.

taunt to bodied
get fucked moron
talk about how "x" character beating you saps fun out of the game

>Yoshi's brawl
why would ANYONE pick this stage lmao

Based players:
>Nairo
>MKLeo
>Ally
>ESAM
>Void
>Light
>Zackray
Cringe players:
>Marss
>Salem
>MVD
>Tweek
>Glutonny
>Myran
>Myran, again
>Seriously, Myran is such a faggot
Neutral players:
>Samsora
>Dabuz
>Cosmos
>Shuton
>Kameme

Any additions?

>"Girthy"
Holy shit it just keeps happening someone tuck this mad lad into bed!

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>When the smash game with the best online is the one that came out in 2001 and had online spliced into it's emulator.

What is this dinero shit the chat is spamming

CHOKE INCOMING

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I wasn't trying to put myself on a moral high ground sorry if it seemed that way

Yoshi music lyrics

The "lyrics" in this song sound like dinero.

And your tits are inferior to my step mom's.

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OHNONONONONONO

Been using him since Brawl.

I think what makes me prefer Ultimate is that i dont feel restricted to the couple of really good characters.
Melee has the best movement options but as far as character balancing and individual character mechanics and over all game feel, i prefer Ultimate.

uuuuh marss?????

CHOKE

WELP

HE JUMPED

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>France surrendering
typical

Marss spilling spaghetti all over the stage

ah fuck did you just sd
come one man

MARSS YOU FUCKING MORON

Melee is faster, has more tech, you need more combos and better response time to be good.
Ultimate is good, but they are quite different, the problem is that melee is ddying

what the fuck

>These are "professionals"
LMAO

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What the fuck are they even singing anyways? It’s not Japanese either, at least it doesn’t sound like a Japanese word.

>The ABSOLUTE STATE of MARSS

Bruh moment

FUN STATUS : SAPPED

Is marss the plup of Ultimate?
Good player but their mentality shatters like glass.

Oh god oh fuck

>Man, SDing sucks all the fun out of the game...

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ally makes the game last twice as long as it should

???

lol no it isn't

I think it's supposed to be "the end all"

Is that all?

i always figured it was just a made up yoshi language

I don't even dislike Marsss that much but this is the definition of taunt to get bodied.

You're going to throw it all away like that after taking out the players I wanted to win

I win Zero suit poster. BUST. NOW!

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>sd

Lmao
Seriously though fuck Snake

> that SD

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It kinda is.

samsora is pretty based for the cooking skit alone
glutonny is based too
I'd say wadi is neutral
wishes on cringe

you can tell that SD crushed marss :(

I think it's kinda funny that the winner of this gets the honor of being 3-0'd by Leo.

tweek's mentality might even worse than marss's mentality

It's just gibberish you retard. When did Yoshi ever say actual words?

Reminder that Snake is the worst character in the game

Well Ultimate seems to be more popular where as Melee was still more popular when Smash 4 came out. Probably because Ultimate is actually good and Melee has been figured out for years.

it hit a slump on ult release and recovered like 2 months ago
if you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention

Why do I enjoy watching Snake matches?

If Marss is this tilted when playing Ally, how will he be like against Leo? Will he even be able to use to controller?

>468739831
>Melee has been figured out for years.
>Coming off big major wins from Falcon and Pikachu
Not even worth a (You)

I mean, seriously, FUCK this game was expensive
>Switch: $300
>Smash: $60
>GC Controller (cause mine broke down): $40
And that's not counting the DLC

MARS IS FUCKING DONE
THAT SD ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED HIM

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Cause he's playing a different game than anyone else.

>figured out for years
>2 characters that haven't won a supermajor ever/in a decade recently took huge wins
sure

Cause you're waiting for that spike of his.

If Marss gets whipped here the finals is a 100% win for Leo. Snake will get whipped, and Mario just isn't enough in Ultimate to compete with Joker.

holy SHIT that game

get fucked lol

HOLY FUUUUUCK

Just like favorite youtubers!

YOU WERE SAYING?

ally found his rhythm

I like both a lot though.
Ultimate is better to play casually and semi-competitively because of the amount of splashable characters and some of the advanced tech actually being really fun to fuck around with like Pivot Boost and Attack Cancel, not to mention the character specifics like Lucas' Snake Slide.
Meele is better competitively because of thew better movement and tighter cast.
I'm just glad I have two smash games to enjoy rather than one

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The fact that it's slow means that it's also tense

WE GOIN GAME 5 BROS

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Oh fuck, it's game 5 time.

Me cague

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I hope ally wins so everyone is salty

heh

Melee has never been more alive than 2019

Great comeback.
Is 0 Samus actually decent to use?

red line and zoom in are cancer

You were saying fuckboy?

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>ever doubting NE

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how does it feel being so wrong, lad?

...

taunting is absolutely cursed

>two players playing their hearts out for guaranteed 2nd place against MKLeo

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I really dont know if either can kill him man.

Dumb touhou poster

can you add myran to the cringe list?

what a strangely shaped table

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Apologize

Then why the fuck ain't it at Evo.

Neither of them have a chance against Leo this is bascially just a contest for 2nd place.

evo is for fighting games lol

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>Evo
>relevant
Smash as a whole doesn't need Evo, least of all Melee.

I dont agree with him but to be fair Evo is just a corporate shithole now.

is it a wrestling reference?

Because the evo staff doesn't want melee and that's hardly a secret.

spam these cars to help marss

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Never seen someone popup for placing 2nd

s h e ' s
t o o
d o m i n a n t

>that pop-off

Sad he's about to get utterly destroyed by Leo

Time to nerf her.

marss is kinda cute

TAKE THAT STALLING FAGGOT

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Hope you enjoy these characters while you can

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The coping continues strong.

It begins