Any games that let me use a Sword Breaker?

maybe if your not a basedboy

Not with that attitude you won't

Fire emblem

a sword breaker doesn't literally break the sword. it just catches the sword to fuck with the opponents movement.

The idea was to either twist it out of your opponents hand or control the sword so they can't defend themselves from your other weapon. Swordbreaker is a bit of a misnomer.

Longswords weren't meant for banging on armor or other swords, they snap.

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>coat the edge of your sword with rubber
>enemy sword hits it
>bounces back and kills them
I am a genius

>implying you can exert such a force with the trun of your wrist
I didn't know the "sword breaker" was 10 meters long

The Lucerne hammer is objectively superior to swords in every capacity

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Sword blades are pretty fragile especially depending on who made them

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>a quick twist of the wrist could break the sword blade
You don't actually believe that, right?

Can it cut bread?

>gaps to grab swords are designed with "teeth" thinner than the sword theyre catching
>this will somehow break the sword instead of bending the "teeth"
(x) doubt

Sophitia had as a weapon in the Soul Calibur games

Remember your elementary physics. Their blade bouncing off your is and EQUAL force being delivered to their sword, and cracks the blade. Then just a twist finishes the job.

youtu.be/jr8tSuMyGO
you cannot snap the blade in two

wew

This is REALLY bad bait

swords bend

>Yea Forums unironically thinks that swords were mindlessly clashed together like in hollywood

no, they chip and maybe bend a little. That one broke because it was held in place so it couldn't bend

>Sword blades are pretty fragile especially depending on who made them
not really, outside of the early medieval period, swords were high prestige and high quality weapons. They were designed to bend instead of snapping. The sword in that webm was purely struck for a test of toughness, it doesnt have room to deform and bend.
youtu.be/X1MyavqThLI?t=2052

the only good thing RTLII ever broadcasted was anime after school

>user unironically is trying to say he knows what went on on battlefields 600 years ago
Tell me more

youtube.com/watch?v=jr8tSuMyGOI
take the toddpill

>implying such a bullshit
faggot calm your strawmen.
I implied that every military historian will laugh in your face if you tell him that.
Shields and sword techniques existed Idiot-kun.

liked this video, saw it a few days ago. Tod's slick

>break the sword

NO

I know this is fucking bait but come the fuck on. swords are made of fucking spring steel, you can't just "break" them

youtube.com/watch?v=jr8tSuMyGOI

watch this video and be educated fucking morons

this is factually wrong

actually kill yourself

>Longswords weren't meant for banging on armor or other swords, they snap.
Because katanas were?

LMF FUCKING AO OFF

Cassandra has it in Soulcalibur 2. Iirc, Sophitia in Soul Blade, too

Katanas don't bang on armor, they cut through it cleanly.

It didn't work in the webm because the guy is a waito piggu and didn't infuse it with Chi

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>mistiming your twist by a millisecond just lets your opponents sword slip away while leaving yourself completely open
Shit tier weapon desu

FUCK

>Katanas don't bang on armor, they cut through it cleanly.

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it was definitely not capable of snapping a sword in half

do you have that gif from the anime?
you know which one

Ragnarok Online

Technically they are more rigid so they would be better for piercing and slicing, long swords were breddy shit dude, broad swords however kicked all their asses

This is an SAO thread now

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seems incredibly impractical

>Break the sword blade
>Not break the opponents grip of the sword

Who wrote this shit?

:::Teleports behind you:::
Very impressive user. Lets see you break my beloved blade, but can you keep up with Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu?

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apples and oranges, longswords are 2h weapons broadswords are 1h

Soul Calibur

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my nigga.

Except ease of use and portability.

>1090 carbon steel pierces aluminium with a thrust
>This means 1090 carbon steel with a sharp edge would cut 1090 carbon steel
>Not the fine / sharp edge breaking instead

Please stop posting about swords. 1090 wouldn't even cut 1030. 1030 would bend while the very small point on the 1090 would shatter.

rigid = hard = snaps
flexible = tough = deforms and springs back into shape

No sword is ideal for cutting or piercing advanced armour, but rigid swords suffer more risk of breaking. If you want a stiff thrusting sword take a look at the estoc.

cope westacück

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this has to be bait

yes katanas were more rigid dude to the way they were constructed since they had many types of steel instead of being uniformly spring steel, but that does not make them magically able to cut through fucking plate armor.

>better for piercing
no

>slicing
depends. the katana curve allows for more forgiving cuts compared to a longsword which requires good edge alignment, but they most definitely don't cut any better than a good longsword would in the right hands

>long swords were breddy shit dude
no again. they were most often used in self defense by private citizens and can still do damage to armored opponents with halfswording and good technique

> broad swords however kicked all their asses
ok you clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about

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>attempting to pierce an armor with a sword

Ok.

You know we don't need retarded modern reproductions made by autists. We have countless high quality historical accounts from all European countries detailing countless battles, the details of many different units, with detailed descriptions of the weapons and armors they carried, and all the strategies and tactics used based on what they were efficient at.

Maybe read those and stop watching youtube videos.

Some of the Fire Emblem games have them.

>Muh folded steel
>Technique innovated in desperate attempts to overcome the shit grade of Japanese steel
That another thing to note as well, Japan has terrible steel quality. It's Chinese knock-off tier.

>depends. the katana curve allows for more forgiving cuts compared to a longsword which requires good edge alignment, but they most definitely don't cut any better than a good longsword would in the right hands
I'm not sure I agree, I've only had the opportunity to use a sharp longsword once but I had significantly more issues getting a cut with it than with the messer or other curved swords we had available.
On one hand, the curved blade of the katana gives it a great advantage, but it's also a very fat sword meaning there's more mass to move out of the way. Longswords are primarily valued for their versitility, im not sure how well their cut compares, even if the blade is thinner.

imagine responding to a guarateedreplys.jpg post talking about chi infused katanas

youtube.com/watch?v=w2A_NISUX-w&t=154s

>A Spanish royal decree of 1609 specifically directed Spanish commanders in the Pacific ‘not to risk the reputation of our arms and state against Japanese soldier'”.
Giving Up the Gun: Japan’s Reversion to the Sword, 1543-1879: Noel Perrin, p. 35.

>“In Japan, it was necessary for every man to carry a pistol; but the Japanese [with their swords] invariably got the better of every man carrying one, even when he had it in his hand… …I maintain the great fault in our swords is that they will not cut. Use them as much as you like, unless you have them specially sharpened the night before, they are useless. In the cut, our swords are useless in nine cases out of ten. The Japanese use two-handed swords; if we could use them, I should say cut by all means; for they never want a second cut.”
“On Military Equipment,” Journal of the Royal United Service Institution
cited in Swordsmen of the British Empire

I love how there's no animation at all on the girl during the cut

Not in the case of steel, rigidity is there because of the thickness of the blade, they are both made from steel don’t forget, unless you’re slapping someone flexibility is bad on a wider sword, flex is more efficient on something like a rapier, but anyway katanas were made to cut like kitchen knives so if you’re not using it like that you’re using it wrong

I was under the impression OP meant bending in the narrowest direction not literally cutting/crashing through the blade.

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It's actually pretty overpowered against rapiers. Which is what they were designed to be used against. Sword breakers are off-hand and it's expected of you to use them alongside a rapier in a duel.

only basedboys can?

Why don't you have a blade in 3V, Yea Forums?

youtu.be/KXt_od8GDO4?t=36

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it's meant to slomo I think

No steel sword or any type ever can slice through steel armor

Dark Cloud

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Samurai never used their sword to "cut through plate armor". So yes, you're right. The most advanced Samurai armor was made of iron and impervious to swords. That's why they preferred to shoot each other with guns. They would do the same thing against European knights. I can't imagine anyone even contemplating thinking about the possibility of maybe trying to brute force slice their way through armor.

katanas are a composite between a hard edge and soft back, they are iron swords.

>American education

Did you not take a single class on the properties of metal?

even if it wasnt, its an effectice method to draw attention to the important bit, the sword cutting, through movement. It's just funny looking at it having seen the gif so many times.

>All hype no documentation
Wow and people think we've changed from our ancestors. The katana was more a social status on your hip and was never a primary weapon outside of ceremonial ('Honor' included) or judicial circumstances.
The sword was more valued for its difficult construction than application. As such it was worth a lot in and of itself and a katana would lose its virginity against unarmed or restrained individuals.

Samurai would use their swords against armour in a similar fashion as Europeans did: they would thrust or cut where the armour didn't cover.

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>stop watching youtube videos.
his problem is he isn't watching the right ones.

scholagladiatoria and the like are great learning resources

>but I had significantly more issues getting a cut with it than with the messer or other curved swords

that's the edge alignment thing I was talking about. It takes practice to cut well with a longsword due to how the spring steel flexes and also the lack of a backward curve. Curves tend to make edge alignment easier

Fucking switchfags

Correct, everyone did this. My point was, no one would attempt a direct strike against the armor itself in an attempt to slice straight through it. But again, they would shoot first, before engaging in melee.

Oh wow a British journal of the Spanish from when they were the bitterest enemies.
Surely its not propaganda at all.

Katanas were specifically meant for unarmored peasant massacres.
A shogun would boast about not knowing how to use a katana. Because that would mean he's so skilled in archery and spear wielding that he doesn't even need to use his backup sword.

This has gotta be bait, you know what steel is right?

>Spain and Britain
>Known for their swordsmanship
Cringe. Now compare it to Germans and Italians, maybe Frenchmen too.

a small knife is like $1000

>The most advanced Samurai armor was made of iron
are you sure? pretty sure that they had steel armor as well

exactly this. no one would be retarded to try and hack at a person in full plate with any kind of sword. Halfswording was developed partially to deal with armor as it allows for finer point control and lets you more easily stab into the points between the armor pieces. Of course there is also flipping the sword over and using the pommel/cross guard as a mace to bludgeon the opponent.

generally speaking swords were backup weapons on the battlefield from the beginning. Spears and polearms in general are more useful, and later warhammers and maces were used once plate started popping up

so yeah

historian here. 600 years ago isn't as far back as you think. We know a lot about the tactics used and how battles played out thanks to records and also instruction manuals written on how to use weapons of the age.
You're a retard. Sorry.

True but this thread is about swords, arrows and spears beat swords for armour hands down

Medieval times were so stupid.
They should have just invented guns with armor penetrating bullets.
Like lmao, what the fuck.

George Silver said in the Paradoxes of Defence:

>The Spaniard is now thought to be a better man with his rapier than is the Italian, Frenchman, high Almaine (German -- ST) or any other country man whatsoever, because they in their rapier-fight stand upon so many intricate tricks that in all the course of a man's life it shall be hard to learn them, and if they miss in doing the least of them in their fight, they are in danger of death.

Hello Yea Forums
Id like to report a problem with my katana.
It's not cutting properly...

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Japanese katana:
• differentially tempered (spine is soft and flexible, cutting edge is hard and rigid - combination of blade durability and sharpness)
• lamination (folding of multiple steels) ubiquitous among all blades; high carbide homogeneity
• higher carbon content due to process of iron-sand extraction (ore bad, lots of labor, resulting steel good)
• honed killing tools responsible for millions of deaths

European long sword or sabre:
• single-tempered (low hardness throughout the entire sword - flexible, low sharpenability, low edge retention)
• laminated only in the most expensive and rare specimens; heavy flaws throughout blade
• lower carbon content
• largely toys for rich people

post some good shit bro i know you got the goods

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Nah, no-where close to that much. You can have 3V knives made custom for you for just a few hundred bucks.

Different user here
Agree with everything you say but would criticise instruction manuals for weapon usage as a source of clear or reliable data.
A lot of authors of weapon instruction manuals would be a bit absurd or quirky to try differentiate their books, and some / many are questionable in if there was ever any legitimacy for which the author was presenting.

Where does the misconception that you used swords against mail come from?
If the enemy is wearing even chainmail you will never, ever cut through it. He could lay down and let you stab him at full force in the chest ten times and you would be lucky to break a link. Life is not a videogame.

>have big ultra sword
>fag has "sword breaker"
>swing
>he parries
>dagger grapples my big sword
>my sword won't stop momentum
>fag loses his little dagger "sword breaker"

>George Silver's Paradoxes of Defense was published in 1599. A companion volume, Brief Instructions Upon My Paradoxes of Defence, was not published until 1898 by Captain Cyril G. R. Matthey, based on a manuscript found in the British Museum. Today, this book is available in two editions: one, containing both books from the 1898 edition and a useful introduction, is in Three Elizabethan Fencing Manuals, edited by James L. Jackson, and the other is a facsimile of only the 1599 edition of Paradoxes, published by Da Capo Press, Amsterdam, 1968.
Look at the date lmao. Spaniards never could compete with French, German or Italians nights, nor people like Landsknechts. The book is also about short swords being better than long swords

Yes, you both posting a video a couple days old does not make it clearly obvious the OP is baiting.

>low carbon bad
>high carbon good

The only reason nips used high carbon steel was because their steel was SO FUCKING SHIT they had to beat the fuck out of it a billion times to get decent quality steel. They had to compensate for the loss of carbon in the folding process (which may I remind you is unnecessary if you had good quality steel in the first place)

spring steel is far better in every capacity and katanas made from uniform spring steel are actually better than those made traditionally

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that literally wont break shit outside of like, a rapier

huh I often forget that rondels could be used on gauntlets. So weird.

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Lower carbon is worse, and higher carbon is good, yes. You absolutely need to form carbides in steel. The only way lower carbon could be better is if you're trying to alloy with tungsten or something instead of carbon (not going to happen in medieval times.)

Europe had discovered differential hardening during the late Roman period already.

Pic shows an Alemannic Sax blade which was made in a similar fashion as katana. On the right it is seen in the state it was found in the ground on the left it is seen after polishing. One can clearly see a hardening line (hamon) akin to what is present on Japanese blades. Also, one can clearly see the lamination. In fact, pretty much ALL European swords, tools, etc. were laminated, because the bloomery steel they were made from required it.

here; forgot my pic.

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Spring steel is definitely not "better in every capacity". It will break less, but it's also absolutely garbage at taking or holding an edge.

European "differential hardening" was slack hardening, which is garbage compared to the clay temper used in Japan.
>In fact, pretty much ALL European swords, tools, etc. were laminated
This is just false... lamination was a fixture only in expensive European swords

>objectively
>states opinion

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So beautiful

stop talking about shit you have no intellect on.
The reason why Katanas are seens are strong weapons is because its too glorified in the media and the reason why the media does this is because Katanas are exotic.

A Katana could only cut through wooden and leather armor but in anime, movies and games you see it cut through stone.
A lot of idio like you assume it could cut through armor because you never consider that maybe the reason why Katanas were deadly was because Japanese didnt use heavy armor.
Its useless against real armor like European armor.

youtube.com/watch?v=w_3W1zg683A

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>Its useless against real armor like European armor.
???
So is every other sword.

I know he's baiting but there are idiots here that will actually believe this garbage

swords are made of STEEL dude STEEL.

Did you not read a single word i typed? They used "high carbon steel" because they had to beat the shit out of it to get rid of the impurities. You lose carbon content during the folding process. How do you mitigate that? by using steel with a higher carbon content.

IF YOU HAVE GOOD QUALITY STEEL TO BEGIN WITH YOU DON'T NEED TO USE THE HIGH CARBON STEEL NOR DO YOU NEED TO FOLD IT EVER.

moreover the differential tempering actually makes the sword overall structurally weaker and more prone to chipping and breaking compared to uniform spring steel

absolutely based

The blades would need to be really thick for that to function the way they describe. Seems like like you'd need to catch the blades after a swing

There is no historical context where lower carbon steel is better. You're genuinely delusional. Deal with your cultural inferiority complex.

yeah, and the reason Japanese blacksmiths had to do all that extra shit was because they literally had no mines or deposits to get actual iron from, they were using ferrous sand from volcanic beaches, they HAD to do all that extra metallurgical shit because the first blades they made could barely cut soft wood without shattering

European blacksmiths could just temper hunks of iron because it was plentiful and easy to get, it could literally be found in deposits out in the open in some places, so they didn't have to do all that stuff

and you know what, despite the differences in craftsmanship, katanas were still brittle pieces of shit compared to western blades, they only had to be good enough to cut bamboo and hemp armor

>Allemannic
Isn't that proto German or something? I know the Swiss speak it

Dragon Quest

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no.... my european ancestors were cooler and beter than samurai
i know it. i know it inside
you cant take this from me

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Yea Forums - Steel and Sword Making

I know.
I'm saying the reason why everyone assumes Katana cuts through everything is because of the armor it used to clash with.

While the Longsword used to batter metal armor, Katanas would just hit wooden armor or plian cloth. This is why people think Katanas are deadly, because they always see it cut through the enemy but they never consider the enemies armor.

That's cool, but setting aside mainstream cultural perceptions, the katana is an all around superior weapon.

Yea Forums - Literally Fucking Everything (but not Video Games)

Lower carbon can be beneficial and is purposefully used in many circumstances of blade forging.
The time it isn't good is if it aimed for a certain high % and failed to achieve it but lower carbon content can indeed be better, given the purpose of the blade.

At least estocs, rapiers, rondel daggers and long swords with distal taper that could be half-sworded for better control could pierce through visors and joints and just keep going as the sword widens.

Katanas on the other hand are just fucked since they can't stab for shit.

Dragon Quest IX has a dagger that lets you lower the enemy's attack, the description hinting at the blade's shape and design.

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why do you do this? don't you have some video games to play or something? are you that fucking bored and have so little to do that you're actually baiting and shitposting on Yea Forums with the most classic of baits?

youtube.com/watch?v=jr8tSuMyGOI

>European "differential hardening" was slack hardening, which is garbage compared to the clay temper used in Japan.
Europe had various means of differential hardening. How they made these Sax blades for example it unknown. It might as well have been something similar as the blades shows similar properties. Otherwise, you can find throughout the middle ages all kinds of imaginative techniques, e.g. a quench in oil sand that would leave you with a hard exterior but a soft core.

When it comes to clay temper being better I am highly doubtful - in particular because the papers on the subject matter are quite the rarity. I am aware of two studies, one by the US army from WW2 and a later one on a Masamune blade kept in a temple, which can be hardly seen as representative - since under the same premise you might as well consider the Thyssen AG study of the the Essen sword as representative and declare that European swords from 1000AD were as good as modern tool steel - which this particular sword was, even though it hardly represented the norm. If you can point me on a study that took a look at swords dug up from the ground on a Japanese battlefield I'd be delighted.

>This is just false... lamination was a fixture only in expensive European swords
Utter and complete nonsense. Lamination was the only way to turn bloomery steel into swords. What you got out of a bloomery was a lump of iron that was inhomogeneously infused with carbon, various residues, etc. - what they did was smash the lump, colour grade it and then faggot it depending on which part of the blade it was meant for. And this was not reserved for expensive blades it was literally the only way to make something sword-like out of it. Lamination was applied well into the 19th century.

>that shit blade quality
Dishonorobur

They're also fat and heavy. Iron shitswords for faggots. Fuck katanas.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemanni

Your post is fanfiction. You should be ashamed for revising history to meet your fantasy.

>Yea Forums - Literally Fucking Everything (but not Video Games)
This.
Nowadays it's literally any pic from google with "What are some games" opening comment quarantees you gorillion replies. What the fuck has happened to this board?

>katana is an all around superior weapon

Please read a book. The Katana was specifically designed to be used in singular strikes / cuts and kept with prestige and treated as heirloom. Longswords were designed to clash, go through warfare, get beat up and still cut off a limb, and still be going strong at the end of all that.
It's like comparing apples to oranges, but even then the Katana does not 'Surpass' the longsword unless you're literally envisaging top tier katana vs low tier longsword.

>Modern day Swabians
Lol

I remember when mods had a sticky that specifically said "What are some games + irrelevant image" OPs would be banned on sight.
This place really is a shithole now.

From what I could guess it was b/ then it became a porn shithole, so it became pol/ but then it became a r/the_donald shithole so now it's v/.

So this is really wrong. Sword breakers are just parrying daggers on easy mode. and just like parrying daggers they were rarely used in combat because shields were superior in every way.

Are there any boards or generals on the chans that frequently talk about medieval combat?

OH NO NO NO NO WEEBBROS, I THOUGHT WE WERE WINNING??? YOU TOLD ME 1000 FOLDED NIPPON STEEL WAS SUPERIOR TO AUGSBURG OR MILAN CRAFTSMANSHIP????

Yea Forums

/k/

NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

underrated

There is zero fucking way that weapon existed or even worked. The entire spine of the blade is Swiss cheese, it'd be flopping around like your dick in the wind.

No matter how much westerners seethe the Katana will always be seen as the strongest sword by the mass populace.
It is elegant while still being able to cut through reinforced steel without nicking the blade.
Doesn't matter what history is when the most powerful brainwashing tool of all, the media and entertainment, is on the side of us Katanachads.

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from what I've seen there are rarely any threads about anything other than guns/tanks/jets etc

Is that so?

>The sword blade was forged in all probability from one piece of relatively soft iron, more or less equally carburised. In order to improve its quality, carburisation and thermal treatment was applied. On account of the microstructure observation, it can be said that the blade was in all probability hardened directly from the temperature of carburisation (ca. 900-950 o C). It was hardened in a weaker cooling environment (e.g., wet sand or oil). Thanks to this, only the surface was hardened and the core of the blade remained soft. Moreover, on account of the analysis, it could be said that the areas which had been previously hardened were then partially tempered. This was done by means of the metal’s own heat, i.e., coming from the inner part of the sword which was not cooled or by means of brief heating in fire immediately after hardening. This method of thermal treatment was already known and applied for tools in the early Middle Ages. 17 It provided edges of proper hardness and a relatively soft core. It was of extreme importance in the case of a sword, as thanks to this the weapon possessed excellent cutting ability and at the same time it was elastic and resistant to breaking during a fight (Figs. 15 and 27). Such a bladesmithing technology was very popular in late medieval Europe. Another method consisted in forging a core made of soft iron with laps of hard carburised iron. 18 Introduction of blast-furnace technology in the late Middle Ages (resulting in pig iron) had obvious benefits. Cleaner iron with less slag enabled craftsmen to produce fine quality weapons.

>Gladius XXIV, 2004, pp. 187-208

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>britbongs talking shit
Meanwhile in real world

40 Spaniards versus 1000 ronin

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles

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ITT: Weebs try to cope with their fanboy knowledge being rekt by history and people who actually know their shit

>pronged hammer end means it won't just cause blunt trauma, but also penetrate
>other end is slightly curved to hook into, say, a shoulder or rib
>two sharp points for stabbing
>miss with the head? Metal knobs on shaft mean you can still do some damage
Not bad. I can see how it's designed for dismounting.

It will keal
Good job

youtu.be/jr8tSuMyGOI

You'd sooner pull it out of someone's hand than break it.

Fuck, I heard it.

That only if you're barehanded. You're supposed to wear gauntlets you retard.

Look at that shitty hamon, it looks like it's from a fucking etching. Even if it isn't there isn't even any beauty in it, it's just a measured wave. Fuckin' shit. Whoever made that shyould be ashamed.

It's braced on both ends. This clip is retarded.

>Sword flubber

Modern spring steel is better than what the Japanese had access to historically.Clay hardening and pattern steel are obsolete methods in modern blades.

gauntlets don't increase STR irl

dude you got fucking rekt

...

>spots the ZOOMER
KATANAS CANT CUT THROUGH STEEL AND IRON PLATE RETARD, Its Historically proven EVEN WITH FUCKING FOOTAGE OF IT
Chainmail+Gamberson LAUGHS at Nippon garbage steel

An how is that an excuse for making one of the most artistic parts of a blade look bland?

weebs literally seething

>Strength: 1 junk

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Does this have any good porn at least?

5 stars post

>this is what Yea Forums actually believes

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>artistic
lol

There's titties in the show.

Yeah, that'll be why Germany dominated the medieval period... wait, they never did

>Looks like it's from etching
That's definitely acid washed hamon, undoubtedly. It's too uniform and too white / visual.

Katana cuts anything if the wielder is properly trained you buffoon.

Yea Forums believes in anything jap cartoons tell them, i bet Yea Forums also thinks that it's normal for a people to fight with swords 4 times their own size and move them like they're made of nothing

>Katanas on the other hand are just fucked since they can't stab for shit
Yeah they can, have you even held one?

that's because they didn't have an early eco bonus, elite teutonic knights shit on other melee units easily

yeah it is Ive got another one with a clay hammon.It doesn't really add to its performance though.

i know you're a fat incel just from that post alone

>Germany
>Medieval
Germany wasn't necessarily anything other than a mixture of states. I could be wrong but think I'm right in saying Germany didn't actually exist in medieval times.

youtu.be/_q0MlNiTs6Q?t=373

this guy wrote the prologue to a book this quote is featured in, and what did he have to say about it?

>probably related to the use of metal scabbards and not very good sharpening methods

Wouldn't it be balls hard to sharpen?

>>Please read a book
>goes on to quote pop culture bullshit
Of course the Japanese had battle swords you idiot, claiming they didn't is as daft as the wood armor myth

yes, but it's unlikely to need sharpening because it's just as hard to dull

The depressing thing about it is that it would have been even easier to make a nice or interesting looking hamon using etching, and they didn't even bother.

You use them like you would a parrying dagger, you control you opponents weapon so they can't raise their guard, you don't actually break the sword.

ITT: Yuros seething

>not knowing about the unparalleled edge of thousand-times folded steel

It doesn't break the sword you fucking baboon. The context of 'breaker' means to break an attack.

>youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tuklPjtAU
Cry some more you weeb nigger, and this guy is one of the best.

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>Landsknechts, mercenaries, literally dominate the 15th and 16th century warfare
>uhhh but what about Germany?

Yeah, not saying it devalues or adds value to the blade. I just don't like the aesthetics of acid etched but think clay hamon is extremely pretty. Makes the blade look like it's licked by fire and it has that inconsistency given it a very natural look.

>interesting looking hamon
Its not worth it for the price.Budget katana for cutting.The katana aint on my top list for most beautiful sword.So im not bothered.

>do this
>also make the sword part of your armor so it can't get pulled out of your grip
>become invincible AND enemies die when they attack you

Have you heard about our lord and savior QUARTERSTAFF?

Claiming a katana is a battle sword is even more retarded. The dynamics of it makes it almost utterly useless in a war.

I know this one. That blade on the left deals ice damage, and the blade on the right deals fire damage. I have experience with these sorts of weaponry.

Believe it or not they work, placing two tension points at opposing angles on something as supple as steel can actually shatter it.

That’s assuming the sword breaker doesn’t snap first, of course.

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>Katana crumples like fucking aluminum
But muh superior Nippon 1 million folds steel!

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Pathetic obsessed HEMAfaggot bringing up katanas every time someone calls you out. Keep seething, one day you'll realize that you're just a child on a bandwagon.

>Some of the best equipped military soldiers at the time with guns and artillery vs desperate malnourished pirates
>Somehow surprised when the military soldiers win

>Katanas don't bang on armor, they cut through it cleanly.

forded ten thousand timeu

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>good for discipline/less lethal
>animals fear you
>whack platefags
>thrust strikes still hurt like hell
>ultra cheap
>get 2 night sticks if broken

>testing gaijin knockoffs as if they were true masterwork blades

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>Watching reruns of dragon Ball with my dad
>The comfy feels of watching detective Conan as a kid while eating cereal
>Trying to follow the cluster fuck that is one piece but loving the big titty bitches

I wanna go back Bros.

GODS I WAS STRONG THEN

>Can't cut through a phone
>Tested on a nokia
Come on give it a fair test.

Should've folded it one million and one times instead. Lazy.

>muh swords muh armor muh reputation nobility fags.
whatever.

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The spring steels better than the historical pattern steel.

The wear resistance is far higher than your average knife, but it's not that high in the grand scheme of things. 3V is a toughness steel - it is built to never break, while retaining good wear resistance as well (unlike, say, S7)

The highest wear resistance "steel" is Rex 121, which has so little iron and carbon that most people don't even consider it a steel (There are knives of it - they are small and expensive.) The highest wear resistance metal is tungsten carbide (there are knives of it... they are very small and expensive.) And, finally, the highest wear resistance material is diamond (there are scalpels of it, made for operating on eyeballs... they are very, very small and tens of thousands of dollars)

Are nun-chucks meme weapons, as in they're pretty dumb to use and handle but look cool so they get a pass? Or are they legit lethal weapons since commiefornia has them established as an illegal armament

True
youtu.be/cAAh0Gn2J8A

Yeah but guys in GoT I saw the nightking puncture metal plate with wood so bullshit on any of you claiming a katana can't cut through steel armour

Why do mutts shit their pants in fury whenever katana is brought up? You can literally SEE the cultural inferiority complex in them

>O-OUR LONGSWORDS COULD CUT THROUGH PLATE MAIL UNLIKE THOSE SHIT KATANA
>T-THE SAILORS WHO ENCOUNTERED SAMURAI WERE JUST DRUNKS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW A GOOD SWORD

>Sweden: 1
>Japan: 0
Weebs on suicide watch

Your bait is more obvious than

Imagine living in a state that saw an episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and thought it was a documentary.

this thread is literally Yea Forums levels of shitposting

mega meme

>mutts
>longswords

mutts?

Absolutely love the thing in Mordhau. Chiv and Ninja Gaiden

A lot of chinese peasantry weaponry is oddly feared by laws (Banned).
Like in the UK I can buy and own a longsword fine but if I tied a small scythe to a broomstick it'd be illegal to even own it on private property.

>This whole thread

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>a twist of the wrist could break the swords blade
Was the opposing blade made of the same shit that they use in ceramic kitchen knives or something? It would take an industrial machine to apply that much force to both turn the dagger, and hold the sword in place firmly anough to cause the blade to break. And realistically, the dagger is more thin at its weak points so the dagger would break first.

I truly wish to ditch this state with a gf and on the way out see it sink into the fault line or ocean. Also shuriken are noted as another weapon that are illegal to even carry

What are those things called? It's a curved blade shaped like a shallow "U" on the end of a stick? That's what you're talking about right

awful bait

Sais?

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>his girlfriend can't open 8 beers at once by utilizing all her orifices.
What a waste.

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>tied a small scythe to a broomstick
You mean a kusarigama?
Its the chain and ball attached that's illegal.The actual scythe is fine you can own a kama.

Hey weaponfags. How good would a chain sword like Ivy's fare in battle?

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Swords are gay

Spears > Clubs > shit > Swords

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They're weighted and solid, they are built to be used as weapons. Yes, swinging them with force is lethal.

Best weapon, best girl.

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>puncture through heavy metal armor

oh come on now. this is swinging in the opposite direction of bullshit. No longswords CANNOT "puncture" full plate armor. trying to do so is ridiculous as is using the blade as a club against people in plate. all you are going to to is dull your blade and do very little damage to the person in the armor.

They were used however, to stab into the more vulnerable places between armor pieces, which is what that image is showcasing. But guess what? people wore padding and protection UNDER THE PLATE ARMOR. shocking I know. Almost as if medieval people had brains and realized that just plate armor was not enough to fully protect someone.

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Katanas are for cutting only. They are useless on armored opponents.
the sword already has a lucerne hammer built in it.
It's called pommel.

glorified parrying dagger

Hes not the best since he cant cut anything. So sorry the art of the katana is so beyond you, gaijin.

youtube.com/watch?v=eMAsCuDFSUI

Dangerous to yourself.But Urumis were historically used by martial art masters.So not a good sign if somebody whipped one out and took you on.

>That is the joke.jpg

theoretically when halfswording a sword could, but it isnt really a matter of "could it" and more what's viable. Given enough time and effort a regular fucking hammer can defeat plate armour.
I agree with you though, suggesting swords were typically piercing armour is silly.

>yuro armor can't melt 6 gorillian times folded steel of glorious nippon

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no they are legal.

A regular chain swing can hurt really hard

>poorfag can't afford a sword

pajeet weapon

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>shitposting

continue weeb nigger

but what if the opponent also has a sword breaker

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they are covert weapons, based on thrasher used for thrasing wheat and such. They were developed by peasants to use as improvised weaponry as owning real weaponry was illegal and metal was hard to come by. Same applies to most ninja weapons. They arent perticularly effective in a fair fight, but ninjas avoided direct fights if they could.

>and this guy is one of the best.
He can't even cut through steel, what the fuck are you thinking?

>the sword already has a lucerne hammer built in it.
>It's called pommel.

yes and no. It definitely can and was used (as well as the cross guard) to bludgeon armored opponents, but a purpose made war hammer is much more effective in transferring that force due to the point of balance and mass being more concentrated into the hammer head. Also, unlike the sword, that pick on the back of the hammer probably could pierce through plate in some cases (not all)

>Given enough time and effort a regular fucking hammer can defeat plate armour.

yeah, which is why no one used swords as a primary weapon and instead opted for maces and warhammers against armored opponents. Swords were generally backup weapons and for self defense. They can threaten an armored opponent for sure, but it's not a simple task to beat someone in full plate with a sword for sure

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Source?

Concession accepted. I cut through your argument like I would your pitiful cracker pig stickers.

Saved it from some thread on /wsg/, so I don't know.

It's unfortunately not from an actual movie
youtube.com/watch?v=Cn36Pb8z3yI

I'm picturing the sword breaker guy catching the blade, stepping into the opponent while using both of his arms and all of his body strength to rotate the dagger/sword until it either comes out of the other guy's hands or snaps or whatever the fuck, I don't know

>Initially swings a katana
>turns into a longsword

nice bait

Lmao, Japanese "craftsmenship" was inferior to the European one. Imagine actually needing a law from the emperor to make your swords less shitty

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This. It doesn't actually break swords.

The sword breaker was a renaissance weapon when rapiers were common place. It wasn't for breaking swords, it was an off-hand weapon used to catch the opponents main-hand weapon leaving them open for you to attack with your main-hand. It was just pretty much a parrying dagger with a twist to it.

have fun breaking a fucking steel blade in half with a "quick flip of the wrist"

You've already been cut down, kid.

*sheathed katana*
You just don't even know it yet.

Longswords were meant to bang against other swords though

>sword is still moving downwards
>somehow the cut made by the katana is still perfectly horizontal

It's meant to catch blades so it's just a offhand dagger

The only good thing the youtube algorithm did for me was recommend me this video.
youtube.com/watch?v=ljExTEPNFnM

Your virginity is well protected user. Did you decide what spell you want to learn first upon reaching 30?

No. Katanas are incapable of cutting through most armour, and certainly through hardened steel.

>Cuts through my armor with 6 million times folded steel
OOF

*country music plays in background*

watched the video skalgarim did on this recently. apparently the guy with the stache had a really close call and almost hot hit during the filming of that scene. pretty fucking hardcore.

N.. NANI?!

>There are people in this world that don't understand that, in the arms race of the melee, armor always won. The only exception is when exceptions had to be made for mobility
>namely "If you want to be able to lift up your arm, someones gonna fucking stab you in the arm pit."

At the very least katanas look cool. All swords look cool really.

>people actually fell for that obvious shitpost

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>who would win: an entire sword blade or 50% of a sword blade
u just gonna break you own gay ass dagger

Urumis are unironically the coolest shit and redeem india as a culture.

Fire Emblem Awakening had these.

Holy shit the muscles on the fat one. Absolute lad.

>Stabbing
>Not spinning

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Absolutely kino taste user

I like chakrams too.
No idea why video game make they work like boomerangs though.

this video is so lame. The sword is held down but not only that the sword is ever so slightly above the surface giving it additional "bite the curb" power. This is the same shit those martial artist who break cement blocks do because its basically cheating. What is this supposed to prove? These are not real conditions.

Wouldnt the sword breaker break first?

>Force it on a solid surface where it can't recoil
>it snaps
WOOOWWWW

40 vs 1000

In that scenario numbers should absolutely make up the difference, especially without automatic weapons

Keep your swords, give me a pollaxe any day of the week.

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>sword "breaker"
It wasn't used to break swords, the enemy's grip would always break first, it was used to catch swords but was too unreliable to do so every time, which means that if you expect to do it and let it slide down to have it tight or wrestle it out of the other guy's hand in a case in which it wasn't properly caught you'd just get cut and die.

Longswords were also renaissance duelling weapons and not used in combat

*quarrels you*

noblemen swerve. your fancy parade armor just got dumped on by a serf with zero martial training.

lol they are actually weapons from Okinawa.They aren't weapons used by ninja really.

We must ban these armaments of the devil!!!

that chick gets raped pretty hardcore later on

Try and break a fucking nail and see how that works for you. Now imagine you have to do with with a kitchen knife only because it has a slot carved in it.

lmao get fucked by a crossbow

you are a fucking moron

>that desperation in his voice
holy shit

Why is your sword all sweaty, user?