Based or Cringe?

refer to my first post.

Only played Deus Ex 1 and HR is MD really that bad?

No

It'd be better if witcher 3 didn't exist.

It's worth getting on sale if you liked HR. The game's real problems are narrative-wise, the gameplay and mission structure is still really good. Still gives you the capacity to explore and experiment to achieve goals.

The Palisade Bank is one of the best levels of anything ever.

>muh BLM
If you think this game was somehow trying to be woke with its "aug lives matter" shit, you didn't pay attention. MD makes a direct reference to the real world rights movement that barely got started before it was overrun by violent extremists and exploited by the powerful. The whole story is about the illuminati manipulating well-intentioned aug rights activism to demonize augmented individuals so that their efforts would have the opposite effect. Exactly what happened with BLM and the million dollar damage riots and supremacists demanding for special treatment instead of equal rights. MD is foreshadowing Deus Ex 1 and its dystopian future where civilian augmentation is being phased out in order to skew the power balance away from the common man. It was never trying to paint BLM as the victims of anything other than its own worse actors and outside influence exploiting them.

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>It's worth getting on sale if you liked HR. The game's real problems are narrative-wise, the gameplay and mission structure is still really good. Still gives you the capacity to explore and experiment to achieve goals.
this

the dlc that i played was ...okay.

I don't care, I enjoyed the game and that's what actually counts.

All your "cringe" arguments boild down to "they made a pararel between identity politics in the Deus Ex world and real world and thats bad because reasons".

>muh I didn't understand the story
yes, very cringe, faggot

>you didn't pay attention

This is Yea Forums, he probably didn't even play the game.

WHAT'S THE POINT OF A GAME THAT WASN'T FINISHED AND WILL NEVER GET A SEQUEL

based

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Everyone who complains about the game having a bad story just speedran the campaign without reading anything or listening to anyone. Everything you are directly shown is a barebones basic bitch terrorism story. Everything related to the wider conspiracy is between the lines. Because the game is not as stupid as its predecessor and doesn't treat its players like they're as stupid either.

the first two dlcs were kinda lame, the criminal past dlc was actually pretty great

>oh the dialogue was better in w3
>the faces and npcs looked better in w3
>the environments looked more appealing in w3
>the movement was better in w3
>the gameplay was better in 3
etc.
Playing inferior games is better if you havent played the superior one first.

Witcher 3 is fucking garbage.
kys

Based for anything regarding gameplay and Page/people from the original, cringe for everything else.

I still kinda liked it as a fan of the series.

maybe after cp2077 square will finally see the potential and demand for it

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look at yourself

>Bernstein

>oh the dialogue was better in w3
>Oi, suck me dworf deck har har

Not to mention that the gameplay in TW3 is fucking garbage.

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protip: every race except whites practices identity politics in their own interests

>comparing Witcher 3 to Deus Ex, two completely different games
guys please, stop

>there's another game I prefer therefore this game is shit
wow

BUUUUUUH
BRINGE

Its simply about the use experience
Like if you played WoW, it has everything perfect from movement to class balance, design and environments and music and so on, and you go play runescape and wonder why is one so garbage in comparison and why you're not getting same amount of dopamine hits.

It is substantially worse than HR in every way

Yeah, I fucking hate Morrowind too, Wipeout Pure was way better

MD is about on par with HR overall. If you thought HR was all right then MD is worth getting simply for how cheap it goes these days.

I kinda actually dig all the continuity connections to the original this time around, md may be the middle chapter of an unfinished trilogy but the setup was done tastefully

Aren't they both story-driven action games with light RPG elements? Design-wise they aren't that different.

>likes WoW and TW3
Could your taste get any worse? Holy shit

They play completely different, one operates on the design philosophies found in immersive sims (and the original Deus Ex) featuring heavy use of shit like stealth and tightly designed hub worlds whereas the other is a weird hybrid of an open world game and an action title.

Again, they're completely different.

how is HR if you don't want to stealth? currently only 3 euros on steam

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>de hr room design
>spartan, simple, no needless filler
>de md room design
>minor details everywhere
>we want the walking sim audience
>fuck your action game, your eyes will bleed

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decent, md has more combat options but is worse in other ways

You don't have to stealth completely but you'll still be forced to get the drop on the enemies if you play on Give me Deus Ex (the real way to play). I'd say get it and refund if you don't like it.

MD is a bit better in regards to having fluid gunfights and it works really well actually but they fucked up the optimization hard, so there.

MD is extremely much better than HR, but the main story ends abruptly and the concept of augs being oppressed makes no sense.

HR is garbage if you don't stealth to the max.
MD has much, much better combat but you should still stealth, because it's Deus Ex.

I also like csgo, undertale, assassins creed, dragon age 2, mass effect 3, half life 2(not 1), metro last light redux, portals, civ V while strongly disliking bethesda titles.
Hope thats useful information for your life.

>HR is garbage if you don't stealth to the max.
>stealth no kill as much as possible and spend praxis accordingly
>game forces you to fight stronk bosses face to face

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>CSGO
>AssCred
>Undertale
>Dragon Age... FUCKING 2
>Mass Effect FUCKING 3
You are the lviing embodiment of cancer.
You are why the industry keeps churning out trash.
Please be bait.

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Yeah, the bosses were outsourced for some retarded reason. Absolutely the worst parts of the game.
MD doesn't have that problem.

i think that's the one i didn't play.

Yeah because MD only has one boss. Granted, he's pretty engaging until you figure out the nonlethal strategy.

>black policeman in Prague

lol

>there's that one policewoman who sounds JUST like fucking Anna Navarre and she seems 100% human
>the game doesn't fucking have this go anywhere, she just bounces and becomes a typical NPC
was that deliberate

Buy you see the devs invented an alternate timeline where Europe is 30% black.
That means its alright.

Two, actually. The one in the sewer is optional, though.
I just ran up and stunned the main boss and took him down normally. It was fucking hilarious.

>minor details everywhere
>we want the immersive sim audience
ftfy

Oh shit, yeah if that counts then that was also a pretty good fight. All the really cool content is in the side missions, the main quest is kinda bland.

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>All the really cool content is in the side missions, the main quest is kinda bland
I agree, but the main quest had a couple of really cool mission levels.

Most of those aren't even correct and are a mere product of your /pol/-corroded brain. Also, the Alex Jones radio host was just a way to cram backstory into the game to avoid awkward NPC dialogue.
>Keep politics out of my vidya!
>Unless they agree with me, of course.
Reverse SJWs.

>tfw you notice the blueprint in the first level that tell you the code to the door is 0451
>tfw you notice the Picus vault shows new stories for an earthquake that, if you've read your DX Bible, you know hasn't happened yet
>tfw you notice the magazines talking about HAARP controlling weather
>tfw you see the body in the Versalife vault and realize you're a fucking clone
Is there any other game that does environmental storytelling this well? It's a shame too because most people never notice it because decades of game environments being nothing but window dressing have taught them not to closely inspect anything that doesn't have a glowing interact prompt pop up.

Mankind Divided sucks because of how Square forced them into doing microtransactions, cutting the game in half, pulling stuff out to act as DLC, etc.

>>Keep politics out of my vidya!
>>Unless they agree with me, of course.
This but unironically.

The microtransactions thing is totally harmless tbqh, you don't even notice them unless you go looking for them and the game is perfectly well balanced without them

Half the fun of the bosses in HR was figuring out how to fight them without a rocket launcher in your backpack.

I'm not saying the microtransactions made the game worse, I'm saying that Square forcing their resources into implementing that shit is what made the game worse than it should have been

Well, think of it this way.

If they hadn't cut the game in half, you still wouldn't have a new DX game right now because it would have taken like 10 years to make.

Remember, MD took 5 years to make. That's as long as the entirety of HR.

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Does MD still straight up give you more rewards for stealthily knocking out everyone than anything else?
Because that's what killed replaying HR for me.

oh yeah totally, breach was a total waste of time

now we won't get a new DX game because they pissed away all the money on things nobody asked for and had horrible pr pre release

Lol cuck

>zoomers now defend Invisible War
Yikes and Oof to be honest

yup

Why wouldn't it?
How else would you reward stealth play?
You get piles and piles of guns and other weapons if you wnat to go lethal.

>easiest gameplay style
>gives most rewards
Nice virtue signalling devs

You get the same amount of XP for headshots as you do for KOs.

Contrarian fags want to disagree with this but Half-Life 2

Holy shit, somebody who actually paid attention to the arc of the story from beginning to end instead of just sperging the fuck out after playing the first couple hours of the game. Thank you.

I keep the interact prompts (otherwise you end up clicking on everything) but turn off the glow, so you only know if you can pick something up if you directly point at it. Means you genuinely have to LOOK for stuff.

Also I unbound the cover key so I can play the game entirely in 1st person.

>How else would you reward stealth play?
Why should one playstyle be more rewarded than another?

I think it's because you don't need all that exp for a lethal playthrough

Fuck yeah, my dude. People all blew through this game and missed everything that made it great. I think i had about 85 hours on my playthrough by the end. The more you took your time and explored and looked at everything you could, the more you'd appreciate this game, I think. The story, world and attention to detail are really great if you take your time.

Also this game had a fucking god-tier OST. The different layers for ambient/alert/combat in different areas and points in the game are great and the way they mix together makes for tons of great mixes people have done with them, too. The atmosphere in general was great in this game and the soundtrack did a great job of setting the mood.

>the Alex Jones stand-in is right about everything.
You mean Alex Jewnes, the CIA shill who is disingenuous about most things. I see
unintelligent Nazbois are still ignoring the Israeli bootlicking with the worship of Ben Shitpiro too, one of his Limited Hangout disinfo agent replacements, from (((Breitbart))).
>getting rid of borders is bad
>terrorist attacks are false flags
These beliefs in practice together, conflict with being a good Nazboi puppet. You need false flags to scare more people into having closed borders to anyone but white people, and to blind people with hate, so as to push for genocidal campaigns, especially for Israel's benefit, fucking suckers.
>the UN is bad
UN is powerless and is little more than a glorified US puppet organization thats merely together for posterity's sake, to make the peasantry look like there is a real Super Friends organization looking out for them. They can claim to disagree with US or Israel all they want while they are overruled and ignored by their authorities, as they are merely meant to be neutered talking heads. They won't do anything unless the US itself wants it to.
>main character literally tells off the SJW character for getting involved in identity politics instead of attacking the conspiracy.
You're obsessed with identity politics though, and you think your selfish shit is JUSTICE. You're just a partisan hack

Good OST
youtube.com/watch?v=cxqNIg2HBa0

It's just a game madr by faggots that speedrun some conspiracies on the internet and add them without checking if there is any coherence in the plot, the borders and all that crap they got "right" was because the social terrorists didn't ramp up on that yet.
Let this pretentious franchise die.

I have no idea where you collected those strawmen sandniggers, "nazboi" are well aware of jews much more than you, social terrorists insists that jees like Alex Jones, Milo, Shapiro etc are the spokesmen.

>overrun by violent extremists and exploited by the powerful.
No, overrun by intelligencia, yes. This is an old strategy of supplanting freedom of speech, worker and civil rights demonstrations with provocateurs and saboteurs. Zoomers are too nu though and don't recognize the same old shit, they will mention terms like Cointelpro but will not even recall who it was used against before, useless lemmings. The indoctrination is coming along swimmingly, especially in the decision to alto try to cover basis in pretend alternative media.

Two main reasons western games are trash now.
>New programmers, fresh out of college, have spent the past 4 years being indoctrinated by leftist professors and now integrating their political opinions in the products they work on.
>While only 27% of the over all gaming community are under 18, companies still strategize and market games for and to kids.

Definitely. Glad to have a fellow soundtrack-friend here.

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The game WAS NOT cut in half by Squenix. Stop this delusional bullshit. This was Eidos doing by design. They wanted a trilogy, but clearly didn't have enough material, which is why MD is so lackluster from a story perspective. Most of the themes in MD should have been ebooks/side missions in a much bigger story - not the main narrative focus.

Nazbois are NPCs who adhere to another form of "Orangeman bad", just replace with "brownman bad", blaming every other race for your problems, makes for the ultimate SNOWflakes. Your perspectives are primitive, you clown shoes retards should really get it over with and an-hero, as you won't be able to get to the bottom of anything but a jug of moonshine with this level of thinking, fuckin' Huckleberries.
>Alex, Milo and Shapiro aren't social terrorists and don't love Israel, its 4d chess.
Yeah, ok fag.

The programmers aren't the problem at all, idiot.
All major studios now employ so-called "game designers" with game design degrees. These fucking retards (together with the retards in the marketing dept.) make ALL decisions.
The artists and the programmers are the ones who actually make the agme, but they have little to no say at all.

The idea that people would somehow be turned off augmentations because of one incident is laughable.

I like Dilmurs take on augs anyways, people use it for convenience but it harms their social relations and it's high class thing to not need any.

No you imbecile.
You confuse white nationalism with retarded centrists that need their epic views in order to make their vash and pay rent, culminating with another branch of bored fencesitters who need to look above all other perceived groups in their own mind, becoming an atheist 2.0.
I could care less about "brownman" if he stayed in his own nation instead of coming here demanding welfare, with politicians accomodating him, forcing a radicalization over the concept of democracy.
You think they are the same just because of your short sighted min, thinking that your parasitism in western nations can be a long term winning strategy, only to cry when you're reminded of the evil you brought, when occasions like the NZ shooting happened.
>muh pro isreal
Learn to read with your sub iq, I already told you everyone knows that people like Trump, Shapiro etc support Isreal, I'd gladly nuke Isreal, alongside all your shitty stolen muslim nations.
There is no difference between you and (((le jewz))), other than you lacking intellect.
"Orange man" will come and go, the destruction of a nation due to parasites is much more important, so miss me with your shitty strawmen.

good game, awful writing

>Every race except whites preform Idpol
Then explain white nationalists?

An extreme minority, if it was a majority like all other races, you wouldn't even have those thoughts, or be in your current country, for that matter.

what is simons up to in the prequels though

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It took so long to make because they were making an engine that would let them churn out games more quickly. MD's sequel would probably already be out by now along with a load of other shit nobody really cares about (comics, more Breach bullshit) if their "Deus Ex Universe" plan didn't collapse at the first hurdle. Probably for the best that didn't happen, assuming they ever get back to the series.

I agree. witcher 3 shouldnt exist its so fucking bad.

Code monkeys aren't that influential.

Well they kind of needed to do that given that HR already took way longer than it should have because the engine they used was so fucking shit they couldn't even make in-engine cutscenes and barely got the first person dialogue sections to work. HR was very obviously rushed to completion. MD may be short but at least it's a complete and polished experience - the final level of MD is fantastic, while the final level of HR is complete dogshit.

So was Jensen a clone or what?

I just really liked the gameplay and my boy Adam Jensen. I don't care for SE's political commentary but didn't stop me from enjoying the game

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it's really 1/3 of a game in terms of content. Prague as a hub was interesting enough to warrant play. The DLCs were bland. Soundtrack was decent but nothing compared to HR. Overall, still retained immersion.
The game is also stupidly easy on any difficulty as aug system breaks a lot.
While the marketing driven political tie in is a bit too pronounced, the plot buffers and integrates it as OP mentions

Yes, it's very clear that you're not the real Jensen any more

>do always pacifist run
>you don't get to use 80% of your powers

>The idea that people would somehow be turned off augmentations because of one incident is laughable.
It was one cataclysmic incident, though. And DeusEx makes it clear that corporate media manipulation has played a huge role in the world.

Yes. You can literally find either another clone or the original body in the Versalife vault.

it's really the marketing around it that left a poor taste for me. It makes sense from a plot standpoint in terms of where HR leftoff and if you dig into the plot it's interesting.

HR makes it clear that it was controversial even before the incident

>multiple kinds of beer
>multiple kinds of spirits
>only one wine brand, and it's shit
Guess we know what the devs do and do not like to drink.

The item descriptions for booze are hilarious.

That too. MD is the series' pressure cooker on the verge of totally blowing up. I was left wanting more by the end of MD, it felt like the second act of the modern DX arc.

You know the next game will have the Earthquake.

The sad part will be we know Jensen will fail and die trying to stop it.

why the fuck can't there be more immersive, story/environment rich games in modern settings? They are so much more interesting than the cookie cutter garbage formula used for any large titles. Graphics have matured enough to make fantastic looking worlds, characters etc yet all that is getting churned out is the same tired garbage formula of bland trash

Ludo.

how is climate change an illuminati plot when 15years ago summers in Europe had 20degrees celcius
and now it's
30+ up to 40

I wonder how they're going to write Megan back in and what they will end up doing with Janus. Where MD leftoff, there don't seem to be any suggestions of the next setting. Hoping the next game will be multihub like HR though. Prague was awesome, but the contrast between Detroit and Hengsha was also enjoyable.

and there's strange anomalies like heavy knee deep snow in april

the illuminati caused it

>15years ago summers in Europe had 20degrees celcius
what the fuck are you talking about

What part of my post you didn't understand dumbass? A decade ago there were no such high temperatures on such a consistent basis and strange anomalies related to temperature change as we have today.

you are retarded

What's up with those animations during dialgoue? Jensen looks like a retard in every single conversation.

Nice argument, autismo.

MD is an example of the bullshit that ensues when you let marketing make a game.
If you think about it, the game had a lot of things that no one asked for including breach, microtransactions, diluted DLCs, universe bullshit like phone apps, cringe marketing campaigns etc.
If all that effort and time was focused on core development and story creation, the end result would have been a lot different.

This is the problem with the now relatively mature gaming industry in general. It's all about marketing, milking money, stretching the story to appeal to wider audiences etc.
No longer about making a solid core, but about filling with fluff all around.

>people still pushing the "you are a clone" theory

bahahahahah I played this recently and you're definitely the one with a retard-tier understanding of segregation.

imagine playing this game non-lethal and not killing any cop you see regardless of what they do.

youtube.com/watch?v=LH8gUhDd6WE

>every race except whites
lol irony

When the world's falling to pieces man doesn't have time to not be autistic

the phone game was pretty good actually, but I agree, a ton of useless extra shit

>Game was later patched to give stealthy people win options.
Now if they would just fix the fucking no kill, no alarms achievement/trophy

I think he means the app where you add to scan symbols in the game not Deus Ex Go or The Fall

dilate

Why do you say this?

>STILL obsessing over "SJWs"
Mate, everyone else grew up and moved on. Started families, furthered their interests, etc... It was acceptable when most of the board was in high school, but if youre still obsessed with this stuff you're "that guy" in your friend group. The one who posts about snowflakes one minute, then posting about depression and how no one likes them the next.

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This post is cancer

They said it would. The title has been trademarked again recently. Research and learn before speaking. You have the world's information at your fingertips and yet people are dumber than ever

>best level design, sidequests, augments and combat of the series
>almost as replayable as DX1
but muh AGENDA muh POLITICS
shut the fuck up Yea Forums

have sex

Too bad it's short as fuck. I liked the game but really needs some more stuff in it.

Are the DLCs worth it?

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How can you make dlc for an unfinished game?

the prison one is great, the other one is fine

>this gay posting style
you're as bad as him

the preorder dlc (desperate measures?) is a meh kinda short linear level
system link is the same but a bit longer
criminal past is easily the best, it's rewarding to replay

Story is trash, game play is nearly identical to HR, no content. I actually thought I had just hit the halfway point when the credits started rolling.

Dealing with sharp pains behind his eyes

The idea that people would be turned off convenient, easy international travel and destroy the lives of millions because of one incident is laugha-

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You have no proof it isn't an extreme minority for other races as well, just your belief

The idea that people would somehow be turned off nuclear energy because of one incident is laugh-

i got it on my first playthrough right after release, before that patch. The issue is that things can happen to people you knock out and kill them without the player ever knowing, usually physics bugs.

Agreed, the thought of the Witcher 3 existing really drags down my perception of gaming

it's not broken, you just trip the alarm in one place by taking the wrong path

Is Thief 4 worth £2.50?