Dark Souls 2

Dark Souls 2

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it's shit

It's good

It's a game

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Is DS2 the origin of "it's a good game, just not a good X game"?

It's the best game ever made.

In a ranking of all things it is better than black "people" but worse than dirt

No, FF13 takes that title

It's the worst game ever made.

scholar of the first sin is better than dark souls 1 and bloodborne

no, dark souls 2 is much worse than this thread.

The worst souls game by a landslide

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>video game x, y or z
>better than Bloodborne
yeah no kid

I am pretty sure the issues with DS2 run deeper than "muh graphics". Clearly you're aware of them and can properly refute them, can you not?

Reach fucked up too many little things. Which really pisses me off. I agree that its great though. That said I also like ODST, even though it was overpriced.

But the gameplay and bosses are shit too

Heres another reply for you on your way to 500 replies.

Just awful

play the game instead of sucking eceleb cock

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>Y-you can't make fun of it because its ugly because I said so!
Okay. What about Soul Memory. What about Adaptability?

Also good thread Really started an interesting discussion.

reminder that any souls game with dead online is shit as you cant get the full experience the devs intended

Hey guys I’m new here but I think op is fishing (trolling the kids call it) for replies to this thread. Can anyone confirm?

I'll start with every encounter being an ambush. Boring and predictable by the 3rd zone. Game just becomes running into a room to bait everyone out of hiding, then dealing with them 1 at a time

can i play it without controller?

This describes most things v talks about

I have, the bosses and enemies are stiff/robotic and the pc walks like someone or something shat in his pants

The environments in DS 2 are objectively unfinished and don't have the care in them that the first game did

>only ecelebs don't like dark souls 2!
I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't like dark souls 2 user. Its not just your weird paranoia. You're like the dude that thinks people only didn't like the Phantom Menace because of Red Letter Media.

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you do own this, right Yea Forums? you don't have the shitty steam version?

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>REEEE STOP DISCUSSING VIDEO GAMES! FOCUS INSTEAD ON MY MtF TRANSITION!!

I'm on ps3 and ds2 is pretty active.

>DaS 1 Remastered
no, fuck off

Good goy, paying full price for old games

Jokes on you fag its only been nine years since graduation.

It's definitely not a bad game, but it did so much to distance itself from Halo

I hated it while playing but liked it in hindsight and want to play again

>soul memory
literal non-issue for 99.9% of players. only twinkniggers whine about it
>adaptability
whoa it's almost like you're supposed to learn timing and spacing in action games instead of having an instant win dodge button

2 is more active than both versions of 1 combined on steam

>you can no longer buy the better version of the game because we fucked it up and then made it more expensive
This shit should be illegal

next you'll say that the fact it's the highest rated souls game doesn't count because it doesn't fit your narrative

If only there was a way to combine the pvp mechanics of DS2 with the world design of 1 and the boss design of 3. I would never have to play another game again. Unfortunately they all have their shortcomings so I only have a few hundred in each.

Bump

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This is the best area in the series

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>people only hate this game because of ecelebs
>now games journalists... those people are who should be determining your opinions

I never played dark souls only gothic 1,2 and 4.
should I try it?I think its similar to gothic idk.

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Replaying it with a sorcery build was one of the most fun runs I’ve taken in a Souls game. 2 was the only one that did sorceries right.

Kino

play 1 and only 1

maybe you should form an opinion for yourself is all I'm saying

2 is the only one that did a lot of things right

i don't appreciate you guys making fun of my favourite game

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alright thanks for info.

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>4000 hours
>not 100%ed
hmmmmmm

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>only 1
>When Bloodborne Des Ds3 and Sekiro exist
Why are you feeding this man your garbage opinion like it's worth anything

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>Dark Souls Poo

>frogposter is autistic

>ds3 and sekiro
i could ask you the same question

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literally the worst area I've ever played in a video game holy shit

>Dark Souls 2, all weapons had unique movesets when power stanced, they could also be used in either hand perfectly fine
>it never gets implemented in any other from software game

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/thread

>reminder that any souls game with dead online is shit as you cant get the full experience the devs intended

Its almost like you are saying Souls is inherently flawed shit in its design.

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>fallout tactics
It makes me happy that people still remember it. Its fallout xcom, what more do you need?

>the pc walks like someone or something shat in his pants
Pretty much everyone does in that game.

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Post a single good looking non dlc area from DS2

>different so it's bad!
would you prefer 7 swamps like 3?

3 regressed in its mechanics from 2 so badly. it's genuinely embarrassing what a hack miyazaki is

rainbow 6 vegas

dragon aerie/sanctuary
the gutter
amana

I would prefer a hundred swamps over that fucking dogshit, at least the game is playable in them

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2500 replies?

a good game

>Ds3 and Sekiro
>bad
Ds3 and Sekiro do almost everything better than Ds1 except the way the world connects

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Whens the last time a Dark Souls 2 thread even got 500 replies....

I would prefer a good area, you retard.

dark souls 2 is fine other than having to level into iframes. if you haven't played it, you should. is it the best dark souls game? nah. is it still better than all of the western RPG bullshit released in the last 10 years? yeah.

Best From Software game by a landslide.

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Demon's Souls - They guy who plays Japanese games that aren't even translated in English
Dark Souls 1 - browsed Yea Forums in 2011 and saw multiple max cap threads a day about it, decided to try it
Dark Souls 2 - PC faggot who because of Totalbiscuit, got to play for the first time
Bloodborne - Demon's Souls Chads finally get their true Miyazaki sequel
Dark Souls 3 - We are sick of making this shit, just use some Bloodborne assets and get it over and done with
Sekiro Shadows Die Twice - The Tenchu: Stealth Assassins boomers dream finally realized. The Zoomers "THIS GAME IS TOO HARD REEEEEEEEEE" game
Elden Ring: YOU COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE IT

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>they do everything better
>except for the one thing that the 1st game is praised for

Outside area of Tseldora with the boars and falling rock trap
Steps to drangleic castle

DS3 has the best bosses by a huge margin, don't even pretend.

Fuck that place and fuck those teleporting horses.

Tseldora universally looks like it's textured with vomit what are you talking about

>"Local man has no taste, news at 11"

Yes exactly. That's literally the only thing DaS1 has going for it.

why do people whine about 2 for having "guy in armor" bosses but not 3? they aren't anymore interesting in 3 either

When’s it coming to switch?

so you're saying all of the souls shit is massively overrated japjank trash? if so you would be right btw

>they aren't anymore interesting in 3 either
Wrong

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Holy putting words in my mouth batman

3 has 5 armor guy bosses and they all have interesting gimmicks
2 has like 27 and they're all just about dodging a big sword

How u no im local

>>Sekiro combat
>Jumping and jumpkick counters
>Dodging is still viable for some attacks
>Parrying is an actual fun, useful mechanic and not stupid gimp shit that either completely cheeses the bosses or is never used
>Rewards you for being aggressive, combat is generally a lot more engaging
>Thrust counters
>Lots of special moves and prosthetics
>>Dark Souls combat
>Dodge the attack and hit them when they're not attacking

Reminder there is literally no reason to play a DS game again after Sekiro

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nice revisionist horseshit

World connectivity isn't the only thing that makes these games good.
>Architecture
>Art direction
>Armor designs
>Equipment variety
>Enemy designs
>Boss designs
>Music
>Combat
>Level layouts
Are all equally important

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*throws firecrackers*
nice game suckiro cucks

>echoing what's been the common opinion for 5 years is revisionist
ok

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>muh eceleb said so
as i thought

>literal non-issue for 99.9% of players. only twinkniggers whine about it
It affected every player that did online user, and ruined low level multiplayer for players that bothered to stick around
>whoa it's almost like you're supposed to learn timing and spacing
Its a stat that changes that timing. Its bad design All those hitbox bullshit webmS from dark souls 2? Its adaptability related 9/10 times.
>b-but fromsoft have bad hitbox all time forever
well yeah. And adaptability is still a terrible design choice.

>next you'll say that the fact it's the highest rated souls game doesn't count because it doesn't fit your narrative
Metacritic is a gay thing to call out user. Not only because muh critics but also because reviews are published in advance or on the day of launch. By people that don't really understand the depth of the game, they beat it once and wrote about it. But I'll disregard that. I'll bite. Would you say, in your opinion, that SOTFS is the superior version of Dark Souls 2? Yes or no? You answered yes because I have the slightest amount of faith in you.

And you got 4 very different scores. Since "critic" score isn't available for all lets go by user score.
SOTFS Metacritic
>Xbox 360 - 7.0
>PC - 7.4
>PS3 - 7.8
>PS4 - 8.0
>xbone - 7.7

The mean of that is 7.58. Which I will round up for you to 7.6 for the superior version of Dark Souls 2. User score of Dark Souls 3 is 8.4, 8.8 and 8.6. The mean of that is 8.6. Dark Souls 1 has 8.8 and 8.5 respectively. I'm retarded and can't even find the original PC metacritic of Dark Souls 1. But lets give it the lowest available score Dark Souls 2 SOTFS got. 7. The mean of Dark Souls 1 is 8.1
SOTFS - 7.6
Dark Souls 1 - 8.1
Dark Souls 3 - 8.6

I don't agree with metacritic and think its retarded. But you seem to care about such things. So from metacritic we can gather that Dark Souls 3 > than sotfs and dark souls 1. Again. A retarded argument.

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>if somebody with a youtube channel said it ever then it must be wrong

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ahh, now that's better, finally some color

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>ruined low level multiplayer for players that bothered to stick around
Soul Memory did the exact opposite. It made low levels playable instead of like DS1 where a """"""low level"""" had maxed out twink gear and could one shot an actual low level.

>it effected every player that did online
no, it didn't. unless for some reason you stayed in one spot for weeks instead of progressing naturally through the game there was never a single time where you wouldn't find multiplayer activity

I'm not talking about weapon and armor restrictions. Soul Memory isn't that. Look it up.

u look it up

>Soul Memory didn't affect online
Yeah it did
>except sometimes it did
Correct. Fucking over low level multiplayer in the long term. Thanks for proving my point.

>low level multiplayer
aka a non issue to 99.9% of people as i said. what do you gain out of staying low level and helping shitters through the forest? nothing at all. and even then your whiny gripe is non-existent in scholar version because of the agape ring

in reality:
Demon's Souls - Heard from a friend who heard from a friend that it's a cool game, get it used at gamestop for $5
Dark Souls 1 - Cool box art, been hearing a bit about it online, guess I'll check it out. Oh, this is great!
Dark Souls 2 - I liked the first one (or 2!), let's pick it up on release night. Well, it's okay I guess. Not as good as 1, but still fun!
Bloodborne - Wow! Even better than Dark Souls and a playstation exclusive. Better get a playstation!
Dark Souls 3 - This is fun. Takes the fluid combat of Bloodborne and sticks it in a more Souls skin. Not the best, but still fun.
Sekiro - Well, this is different but I'm enjoying it. It's hard adjusting from a series of games that rely on defense and maneuverability to a game that is 100% about offense.
Elden Ring - We'll see.

Yea Forums on all of the above: PPPPPPFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAARRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSHHHHATTTTTTTTTOOOOOGGGGGHDF

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>low level multiplayer is gay and you are gay
And it was fucked by soul memory
>fromsoft literally patched in a ring because soul memory was bad design
Thanks for proving my point.

>straight paths with a different skybox
WOAH

Ds2 couldn't afford a skybox

Das2 hate is all from dobson!?

True desu

literally the only one that has a nigger npc, really makes you think

All they had to do was cut down on the enemy spam and design actually fun bosses and the game would have been an absolute 10/10.

>muh grafix...

that's not the point. Sure,he "final" kiln in 3 looks impressive the first time, but on consecutive playthroughs it's just meh whatever and may as well be 2's darkness

Demon's Souls is the best one.

I like how OP showed how autistic people get over DS2, and I like how everyone here proved him right.

He didn't even say its good or bad, just mentions DS2.

The point is that this is the final stretch of the game - the thing you've been working towards to for the last 20-30 hours.
While 1&3 try to make it as breathtaking looking as possible as a reward, 2 just shits a lame, almost featureless and probably unfinished corridor in your face - pretty much the game in a nutshell.

It is if you are an underege newfag.

How Dark Shit's op magic could have been fixed while still remaining true to the spirit of what From was trying to go for with the original and the second game:

>no mp bar necessary
>attunment functions mostly the same but each level will further boost your percentage of usage per spell rather than you having to equip the spell multiple times in order to gain more uses
>this means that while spells would still be strong, it forces you to have to invest a lot if you want to be a very strong spellcaster while spell/combat hybrid builds still can benefit from having some points into attunement and spells, just not be super powerful with it at low levels
>the absolute strongest offensive type of spells take up a minimum of two slots, even three or possibly four for the seriously insanely strong spells/miracles/pyro's
>no matter the magic spell, casting will deplete some of your stamina so you can't just spam it freely with no consequences
>pyro scales with humanity, higher you have it the stronger it gets
>magic and miracles unchanged
>dark magic spells also still have their strength scaling

I know what I posted might seem complex but it really isn't if you understand how the first game functioned and how they tried to fix spells in later games but still ended up failing at that too. I believe that MP wasn't really necessary for the Dark Souls games since it ruins combat flow for this franchise in particular and they could have struck that balance they had hoped for had they actually understood the way their own combat system is supposed to function.

They did well at least trying to fix bs but even that wasn't perfected either.

Oh and also forgot to say, nothing but bonfires can restore your uses for magic and a very rare hard to come by item. Same for the health. Only Estus and one other very rare hard to find type of item. I wouldn't be surprised if From did a lot of this shit on purpose as a way to be an easy mode crutch for the casuals. Considering how they treated the multiplayer in these games over the years it wouldn't surprise me at all that they wanted magic to be stupid overpowered among other dumb shit these games do wrong.

>and don't have the care in them that the first game did
They are unfinished because the game went trough a development hell and was rushed too meet relase dates, that does not mean the level design is bad or lacks care, i found over all and aside the clear unpolished locations to be more interesting to explore than DS3, it is a downgrade from DS1 but DS3 even manage to make old locations uninteresting.

so we can finally all agree that DaS 2 is the best souls game

It's a good game, just not a good souls game.

>y-you can't compare the aesthetics of the three games in a series
>any talk on the subject is null and void
okay.

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It's genuinely fucking hilarious how this thread started as making fun of the inevitable shitstorm that follows any mention of DaS2 and now 100 posts later it's just that exact shitstorm in progress

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FUCK BLEACH FOR RUINING AN ABSOLUTELY KINO MASK

>haha isn't it ironic unironically?

I think it would be ironic if everyone was made of iron.

Its a lot easier to just say Fromsoftware is a garbage developer that made a very overrated series. Elden Ring is going to suck too and will be even more Soulsborne shit rather than something new. From is a one trick pony.

heh maybe I'll donate some reddit iron to you le friendo

he's implying all it takes for you guys to make a shitstorm is just to mention the title, that's what the 500 replies mean. use brain thinky skills

I know cinematic trailers are never reflective of the game but I think someone should actually make this game in this trailer. It looks cool.
youtube.com/watch?v=U6uyuIQYlfY

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That's what I thought too. Was just adding to the statement

2>1>3

3>1>2

1>3>2

2>1>3

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We should restrict all replies in Dark Souls threads to 1,2,3, < and >. I think it would save us all a lot of time.

>eCelebs shit on Dark Souls 2 because. . .eCelebs shit on Dark Souls 2

What is this twisted logic? Think about it for one second. The complaints didn't come out of nowhere. The players already had these feelings, and all the Youtubers did was package and articulate them. There's not a fucking conspiracy to bring down the game. It was criticized week ONE for these issues, but you probably don't know that because most people who played the damn game were secondaries who started with Scholar "Just redo my story bro" of the First Sin.

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Artificial Difficulty: The Game
Around every corner is a gangbang waiting to happen and when you die, we’ll just lower your max health.

every fight plays out the same way and because of the posture system regular enemies are fucking boring to fight against after you kill them once, no wonder they let you run past everything
The games have totally different tones and pacing, of course souls is a more defensive game

I like this game but fuck what they did to faith. Anytime devs decide to balance a game around multiplayer I lose all interest in playing it again

this post is correct and everyone else on this board is fucking autistic for getting so upset about video games.

1>2>3

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>would you like dog shit instead of cow shit?
No

>this entire post
>magic niggers seething this hard
GOOD. Seethe harder magic fags

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Reminder that if the game didn't have ragdoll physics then it wasn't a real Souls game.

>better than bloodborne
Yep
>better than DS1
No

It was criticized even weeks and months before release once they started showing the first downgraded bullshots.

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What's with DS2fags defending their game with so much hostility? All they ever do is resort to "b-but DS3 is worse!" arguments

>downgraded
>bullshot
Hmm?
IIRC the downgrade was revealed pretty much when the game first launched on consoles

The most damning accusation of all.

>Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Are you feeling okay

From is the most overrated, incompetent developer that has ever existed but because their games are “le so hard xd” tryhard faggots dickride them for epeen. They can’t go bankrupt soon enough.

the madman.

why are you try hard faggot?