Playing videogames is an expensive hobby. Games cost $60 + tax...

There's donations and then there are donations
I wish people would understand this

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Hey buddy got any open jobs? As much as I'd hate working in Nigginton D.C :^)

Get an engineering/software gig somewhere in the midwest

Not if you're a retard who buys games day 1.

I literally only purchase two full price games every year, everything else I just wait for discounts.

600 FUCKING DOLLARS IN DONATIONS?

Probably if you’re not shit. Just have a good github with practical business examples of what you can do.

if you have a job, then you really shouldnt have the time, forget money, to play vidya full time.

and if you buy more than 12 games a year or one a month and dont finish it, then you should honestly kys and let someone more responsible have your income.

welcome to the new normal

Videogames are probably the least "productive per hour" hobby to exist. If you lift for an hour 5 days a week for 3 months, you have something to show for it. If you speedrun a game for the same amount of time, you have NOTHING to show for it other than being angry and sad.

save cash in taxes.

>buying new games

Where my retrochads at

> if you aren’t working day and night to be too tired to enjoy yourself , you should kys
Lol bitterfags like you are the best. Cry more while I make more than you and spend money in ways you’ll never be able to :)

>donations
>600 burgerbux

Seriously though. Somebody explain the 600 dollars in donations. Rich people don't even donate jackshit.

615$ monthly to your twitch whore
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Neither is reading or watching Netflix, the only difference being if you spend a lot of money on games you're probably more likely to be anti-social.

Then why are you here if you think so poorly about video games? Go somewhere else.

>Videogames are probably the least "productive per hour" hobby to exist.
No, that's reading* or watching movies/TV
At least video games are interactive

*this is assuming the average reader is not reading technical, historical, or instructional books

$90k salary, average something like 45 hours a week with 4 weeks vacation total
Optical engineer, bay area

>25
>makes a 100k a year

im such a fuck up haha

remove "dining out" and "donations" expenses and boom, you're saving $865/month, no need to thanks me

The average New Yorker works 9-6 and spends 1 hour each way commuting. That's 13 hours of free time. 7 whole hours if you include the national average sleep time. You have plenty of time to play games.

Its actually relatively cheap
Unlike says, I get less out of books. The only thing that remotely comes close to dollar per time value is my art supplies.
I've put 800 hours into siege, 2000 hours into csgo, for a total of around $50. I just spent $400 on my last trip to the bookstore, and that'll last me maybe a couple of weeks.

My tablet i've used for years and its still going strong, so that probably beats out the rest.

> optical engineer
What kinda stuff do you typically work on my nigga? I find all specialized engineering fields interesting af and love learning about them.

>$400 groceries
>$600 donations
>$250 dining out
>house cleaner

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$57k, 40-45 hrs/week in the Milwaukee area
I rent a 1br apartment in a sleepy safe suburb for $585/mo

>Rich people don't even donate jackshit.
Sure they do
Why else do influential people host $1000+ dinners/speeches?

It’s talking about shit like patreon and twitch donations, which a lot of younger people spend their money on.

>You have to enjoy something in order to talk about it!
This is what over-dependence on easy access dopamine does to your reward system, Yea Forums.

>If you lift for an hour 5 days a week for 3 months, you have something to show for it. If you speedrun a game for the same amount of time, you have NOTHING to show for it other than being angry and sad.
Not like this applies to tv or movies, right?

I’m 30 and just started making over 80k with a career switch. Taught myself to program and I keep teaching myself everyday so I can climb that ladder. You can do it too user.

Okay, where the fuck do you get a "house cleaner" for 30 dollars a month? Are we assuming this is an illegal alien?

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Checking in.
The mean salary of a 24/25 year old is anywhere from like 25k to 40k.

>Dining out
>Rent
I never go out for dinner and my dad lets me live with him for free

>you have NOTHING to show for it
viewers and money

>20/hr 35-40 hrs a week
>studio tech at architectural shop
>bay area

OP image is a great example of muh mainstream media brainwashing.
do whatever the fuck you want, it's YOUR money

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Depends what you consider donations, I'll give money to people I work with for various things
>someone gets me lunch
>costs $6
>save me the time and effort driving there
>let them keep the change
probably adds up to something around there over the course of a year.

well, I'm an optical engineer, so I work on optical systems. Like, the kind of engineer that designs how light is processed by a camera
my company makes inspection instruments for semiconductor industry, and these things at their core are just optical systems. Shit like lenses/mirror alignment, camera system calibration, etc etc
bulk of my work right now is on a spectrometer that is built into one of our tools

>Donations

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>$55/hr
>software engineer
>AL
video games are a very cheap hobby consider how much normal adult hobbies usually cost

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How many roommates do you have

it must be referring to taxes

> This place already suffers from shitposts by ppl who unironically hate video games and want to see them and their associated communities ruined
> ill just shitpost too and speed things along y so srs lmao
End your worthless life normie nigger

two, but i have my own room at least

>GitHub
>Doing actual programming
Fuck it I'll just try getting an MBA instead

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>Donations

aaaand i'm out, fuck you idiots for even allowing these threads to stay on the front page

3 months hrt is hardly enough time to see a difference

>$400 for fucking groceries
Is this normal in the US or am I just too used to third world wet market prices? I manage a 4 member family and we spend $200 at most. All this without cheap trash foods, but with fresh meat and vegetables. I am absolutely fucked when I move to America.

heh, I have a studio in south bay
fucking kill me, how does rent just keep climbing

>worked at local cafe for 2 years
>only got real employment and payment the last 5 months before i got a "real" job
>"real" job was a pain in the ass, boring, ans way too heavy work
>quit after 3 weeks
>lived as a neet for over a year, in my own place
>no money problems, thanks to saving responsibly
>dad suggests one day that i move back in with them
>figure there's no reason not to, might as well save more cash
>we realize there's actually no available room left for me in our villa
>we're now building me a small house in the garden, maximum comfy, plus i no longer have to care about noisy neighbors, as well as i can be as loud as i please
>still do chores and pay rent cause why not

There’s lots of services user. Typical price range is 25-50 dollaridoos per cleaner.

>that much in donations
>excellent with money
Lmao give me a fucking break

>Is this normal in the US
Hell no. It might be normal in high cost-of-living areas, but that's a small portion of American cities.

>Normal adult hobbies
The most expensive "normal" adult hobby I know is photography, which is like $500 to get a new camera that's meaningfully better than a smartphone's and $2500+ for good models like the Sony a7iii + lens

Do you at least like what you're doing?
I had big regrets in my junior year of arch school, but I figured it was too late to change majors so I stuck through it
Now I work in the healthcare industry lol

>"You guys are wasting time playing silly video games"
>said the man wasting time arguing with people on a board for a hobby he doesn't like

Sounds breddy gud. Hope you enjoy your job user.

yes, we get the distinction
but again, who the fuck has money to just give away?

just keep up hope the bubble will pop soon, or be ok with moving to the outskirts of the bay

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>groceries
>400 dollars

I spend about that because I eat a lot of meat. I should probably buy a cow, it'd be cheaper.

>$615 a month for donations

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boi the market has a bunch of ppl who fell for the MBA meme. Stick to technical shit or you won’t get far.

>excellent with money
>250$ in a month eating out
>400$ for food
>650$ in a month for food for one person
>615$ in donations
>30 house cleaner
"no"

>7 whole hours if you include the national average sleep time

god i wish that was me

Yeah, it's demanding physical labor which is fulfilling, maybe not as technical as I'd hope but I'm sure there's plenty of time for that as I get older and more experienced

>we're now building me a small house in the garden
literal cuckshed

>>$21/hr 40 hrs a week
>>Software engineer
>>NYC
lol. this had better be a larp

>excellent with money
Clearly not.

This is only normal if you're buying for a family of 4/buy exclusively at whole foods or buy solely organic or premade shit like a chump. I buy a $16 bag of 20lbs of rice, get chicken for $1.99/lb in bulk for $7-9 and freeze it for meals, and buy some spinach or broccoli or asparagus every few days for $3-$6.
I can probably spend something like $30 a week on food if I eat restrained.

>1 hour each way commuting
sure.

>donations
lul

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I'm from NYC and never been to the Bay area. Is the pooping problem really bad there or is it a bit exaggerated? NYC subways smell like piss but mostly at the WTC/Penn station where homeless beg for money to get a ticket to get to NJ

I'm a kissless virgin and keep all of my money for myself.

This shit is some boomer's idea of a budget.

That's a cute opinion you have there. Extraordinarily dumb but cute.

yeah I've got a canon 80d and some lenses it is pretty cheap. I do woodworking and have about $5k worth of tools for that plus I dedicated workspace in my house to it. If someone buys themselves a nice car or a motorcycle that would go a really far way for video games. My dad is into shooting and has spent a whole lot of money on guns over his life and there are lots of people like him. I only have a small collection of firearms.

Reminder that $100k is very possible even if you don’t have an amazing job as long as you’re willing and allowed to work overtime. When I gave a shit I was working ~60 hour weeks at time and a half and holidays at double, so my security job that’d normally only pull in $37k a year was actually making me $80k. And most of what I did all day was shitpost on Yea Forums and play mobage so it’s not like I was missing out on much.

>Stick to technical shit
But I'm a aimless hack who's only good at statistics and research, but lacking a "business" degree so nobody takes me seriously.

just don't donate lol

6 hours of sleep is not even remotely healthy, the fact that that's the national average is evidence of America's shitty work culture.

It's "donations" aka what he spends on drugs

Chart doesn't make any fucking sense. $20/month for internet? 600+ in donations every fucking month? $250 in dining out and $400 in groceries? How much is this one person eating? Did they just make up numbers?

My commute is at least 90 minutes each way because of traffic always fucking it up. On a GOOD day it's 70 min. I get paid $18/hr at a dead end job. Please make it stop

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68k a year, should go up to 70k in July
software engineer
upstate new york
even pissing away a good deal of money, I live comfortably

Only in SF itself is the poop meme actually a reality. Any self respecting resident of the bay area avoids SF unless absolutely necessary

Legitimately asking, what IS healthy sleep?
It seems to vary from person to person, climate, time of year, country etc.

He probably shops at Whole Foods and spends triple to see an organic sticker on stuff.

>tfw average price for a 1bed apartment where i live is 20 times my pre-tax salary
>tfw average rent for a 1bed apartment is $150 more than i earn each month

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200k last year
Equities Investor
Vancouver

>Is this normal in the US
No, it's fucking insane for a 1-3 person household.

it's bait the paper wants you to attack the strawman please don't fall for it.

>100k a year
>representing the average 25 years old in burgerland
CNBC sure is disconnected from reality.

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> no savings

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>$25 USD/h with 40 or so hours a week
>video game development

Specifically, I make environment art. The studio I am working with this year has a title releasing on multiple consoles soonish, and it was announced at E3. So that is pretty cool. But the job kind of sucks. My bosses are shitty. My producers are shitty. They tried to overhaul my contract 3 weeks into the job until I told them that shit wasn't going to fly. Unfortunately for them, they had left a gap in the contract, so I still owned the rights to everything they paid me to make. Hilarious.

I'm no doctor or a lawyer, but I get to spend my time doing something I enjoy. I didn't need to go to school to learn, so I'm not swamped with student debt either. I'll count my blessings.

Ignoring the all the dumb shit they spend money on
>internet $20
>cell phone $40
How the fuck is that even possible? I have never seen either of those under 70 bucks.

7 to 8 hours for adults, since you've finished developing but you're also not like 60.

"Not remotely healthy" was a bit of an exaggeration, but I do think Americans' obsession with barely getting any sleep to prove how seriously they treat their jobs is ludicrously unhealthy.

If you get home at like 7 and you actually cook your food instead of reheating leftovers/microwaving tv dinners, you probably have about three hours of free time before hitting the hay at about midnight (at the latest).

A movie or TV show is at least likely to be a good talking point you can bring up in conversation in someone, whereas a video game is almost never fun to talk about because your experience playing is slightly different to someone else's, so it invariably devolves into you describing how the game works and what happened in it, which is never interesting

>internet: 20$
Wait, is this true? As a leaf I know we get thoroughly raped when it comes to internet costs, but I didn't realize we have it that much worse

>spends 2775 a month at 100k a year
>no savings.

hookers and blow

>The mean salary of a 24/25 year old is anywhere from like 25k to 40k.

26 here, got a raise from 29k to 35k this year, i'm barely making ends meet as it is.

bought a couple of games this year, but my ps4 is borrowed from m y brother and my laptop is 4 years old. 50% of my income goes to rent, and the rest to cost of living, even though i'm living as cheaply as possible, no car, meal prep, dont go out, etc.

even though im somewhat within that income range it completely mind blowing how people manage to afford high end vidya or gfs

what's inmportant is not how much you make but the ratio between what you make and the cost of living where you live

That's such a sad life. Makes me appreciate being neet more.

He probably has dial up.

>Americans' obsession with barely getting any sleep to prove how seriously they treat their jobs is ludicrously unhealthy.
Its not so much that people are trying to prove how seriously they treat their jobs. Its just that you work 8 hours, and by the time you get home there's so many things you want to do that sleep feels like a waste of time.

I don't hate sleep, but I hate having to waste my time away that I could spend on my hobbies or doing something else.

I mean you’d think they’d put a slice there for savings then.

>Utilities
>$195
Where the fuck is this even supposed to be? As an older user who owns a home, this is some magical world shit.

>just got rejected from a near minimum wage warehouse slave labor job that i only went to interview for due to nepotism
>hr lady smiled to me and made it seem like a sure thing
>boilerplate rejection notice 10 days later I can't even get a bottom of the barrel mcjob with someone's help.

This image feels kind of a weird to me. The house cleaner and internet both seem very low, as does the rent for a major city which is I believe where this example was taken from. Which would lead me to believe that he splits rent. But then why is he spending 400 bucks on groceries and 250 on eating out? I live alone and have way too much food at 80 bucks a week in food costs. And thats without eating out. If I ate out three times a week I could probably get down to 50 bucks a week in food bills. Also, if he splits rent, utilities seem very high.

Also, why the fuck is his insurance so high. My company gets me full everything for 50 a month in one of the most expensive insurance states in the country.

Also what 25 year old donates 600+ a month. Is that all twitch thots?

This whole chart is weird to me.

>How the fuck is that even possible? I have never seen either of those under 70 bucks.
There are multiple deals you can take up from companies that last about a year where you can get those prices. So the only explanation I can think of is that this person would be constantly switch plans.

Why you wouldn't lower the donations(or drop that shit altogether), lower your grocery spending, or just eliminate the house cleaner, and pay to keep the service is beyond me. Just seems like a lot of jumping through hoops over nothing.

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>win tons of money
>0 free time and ends up tired with kids/wife

or

>moderate money
>tons of free time
>will take a couple of years (probably a decade) to own your own car/apartment etc.

>As a leaf I know we get thoroughly raped when it comes to internet costs

you leafniggers know nothing about being raped by ISPs. What passes for normal with US ISPs would be equivalent to loli mindbrake NTR rough anal play in leafland.

Yeah if you don't have a well-paying job and/or don't live in the boonies, cost of rent fucks your shit up unless you get roomies.
It really is. I'm thankful for having a 5 minute commute, I leave at 9 on the dot and get home a little after 6. I have a solid five hours to enjoy some vidya before hitting the hay.
I think that's part of it too, yeah, but I do remember people always bragging about how they got no sleep when I was in college. Hell, I even did it a bit. America has a workaholic culture in most areas.

no point in saving if you don't plan on living to retirement

There is no point anymore
there is way too many people and not enough jobs.

>who is excellent with money
>400 for groceries
>250 for dining out
>615 for fucking donations are you fucking kidding me
>just 20 for internet pls tell me

>$615 in donations
>$30 in house cleaner
Guy is retarded.

>$400 a month on groceries
>AND $250 on eating out
Either this guy is a fat fuck or they're including sundries like shampoo and toothpaste
>rent $825
Fucking where?

>house cleaner
yeah this is something everyone typically has

>parents bought a house and soon will give it to me and go back to our home country
This gives me hope, maybe I can save up enough to retire in my 30s and return to my home country. All while doing comfy no stress jobs like security or something.

this dude is living in a magical idealized land.
Just look at the donations

I make roughly 90k a year working construction in Chicago

Oh boy, this thread again. Wew.

$800-1,000 daily in spring, summer and part of autumn, $200 the rest of the year.
SE, Crop duster pilot and farmer.
Sonora Mexico.

Yes, im talking about USD and not pesos.

>Internet: $20
>Cell phone: $40
What the hell? Also,
>House cleaner

There's nothing unrealistic about $825/mo rent

>$15/hr, 40hrs a week
>service desk technician
>nashville

It's shit but I'm about to get a pay increase to $55k a year. After working part time at amazon for a few years its a massive step up.

I'm 27, fucked up in college completely but but I'm steadily pulling myself out of the mess I created.

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>cost of rent fucks your shit up unless you get roomies.

i have 2 flat mates, i live in a closet in brooklyn and i'm still paying close to $1000 on rent.

i cant even think about bringing a girl home because i dont want them to know i live in a closet.

>650 a month
not that bad actually.

I eat out for lunch typically every day, just due to work. That's about $10 a day, 20 days a month. already at $200, and that's without going for anything nicer like a cookie or a small snack periodically.

Groceries, I spend maybe $50 on breakfast a month, and that's always eating the same boring shit. Then about 5$ a meal otherwise, which adds up to about $150 in dinner, and $50 in lunch, assuming I never go out for a decent meal, or decide to treat myself to something better than shitty premade food.

this list is confusing as someone who fits that demographic. The numbers are all over the place. How are you spending 650 on food a month?? I go out all the time to nice restaurants and spend like 300 a month with 100 in groceries. How is that or donating 600 dollars a month 'excellent with money'? Why aren't retirement contributions considered a monthly expense?
I'm loosey goosey with money and I spend under 3k a month while having a 2k monthly mortgage on a house. And thats including my retirement contributions too. This shit is fantasy land.

>25 years old
>$100k salary
who the fuck are these out of touch boomers?

For an apartment in a small town, sure.

There is in a major city like New York, which is where I believe this is from.

Depends on location, where I live you cannot find a place for rent under 1k, I looked at a 1.1k apartment and it was in a literal shit zone. Any cheaper and I'm looking at ghetto tier territory.
I could move like 3 hours away from work like some people, but $300 a month isn't worth that.

>CNBC
I'm guessing the donations are going to Le-a to pay for her 6th bastard.

55k a year before 30 is better than most people. I wouldn't stress it.

Just go in and firmly shake their hand kid.

>It's shit but I'm about to get a pay increase to $55k a year

what makes you so sure they'll give you a 15k raise?

im the user that got a 6k raise and i consider myself lucky to get that much, though they should be paying me more considering that im on good terms with the manager, what i handle and how much.

>smut writer
>random income based on commissions
>poor as shit but no will to get a real job
My current plan is to kill myself before I hit 30

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>2k mortgage
jesus

>Groceries
Sounds right
>Health Insurance
Expensive as fuck. I pay a third of that, and that was my expensive option of 3 available.
>Dining Out
For you faggots drowning in debt, this is the biggest thing to cut if you want to get your shit together. Stop it.
>Utilities
Nigga please our electric is $200 in the summer by itself, let alone water and other shit.
>Transportation
Does he just Uber/Lyft everywhere or what? I fill up the tank for $30 and drive at least a couple weeks on that
>Cell Phone only $40
I call 100% bullshit on this unless he has some shitty flip phone from T-Mobile or Boost.
>Internet only $20
I'd call bullshit, but he's a zoomer who probably spends 90% of his time on his phone. But then that doesn't explain why his Phone bill is so low - unlimited data would be expensive as fuck, not $40. I smell bullshit out the wazoo, even the cheap internet tiers are higher than 20 bucks, especially if he's in NY.
>rent
If he's in NY? 825 isn't even a studio apartment. If he's not in NY or CA? believable for a studio, MAYBE 1br if it's a podunk town.
>donations
110% bullshit. No fucking 25yearold is donating to anything besides their 401k, unless he's one of those sad faggots that donates to Streamers for the attention he clearly lacks otherwise.

100k is about average at 25 for tech/engineering careers.
I make 80k out of college, and that's willingly working for less money in exchange for other benefits.

>America has a workaholic culture in most areas.
Most people that don't work hard don't get anywhere in America, unless they get free rides as diversity hires or some shit, which always backfires sooner or later. Even most "lazy" management got there by doing 14 hour days for years before they got into a position where they could finally cool down a bit.

63k/yr
Software Consultant
SC

>what makes you so sure they'll give you a 15k raise?

I'm currently working for the company as a contractor. The staffing agency I'm under is paying $15 an hour.

I'm currently in the process of transitioning to a permanent position at the company in the same role. That same role as a permanent employee pays $55k.

>Rent $825

Where the fuck are they living?

Most people, at least in more expensive areas, are in relationships JUST to afford to get by. It really boggles my mind. They get stuck in these relationships they can't get out of or they are out in the street. Seems awful. I would try to get out of an area like that ASAP.

Shit if I made $100,000 a year I could afford my current hobby and multiple hobbies. Never go hungry or worry about paying bills.
Only buy certain games at launch because all AAA titles go on sale later plus DLC or wait for game of the year compilation.
I only buy games on day one from studios I want to support and that's maybe 4 a year.

Always hear people bitch how expensive video games are but don't bitch about how much they spend on sports game tickets, sports equipment, upgrading cars, hunting equipment, camping equipment, paintball, musical instruments or how much they spend in restaurants. Yeah I'm poor but video games and books is very manageable.

>$400 groceries
>$150 dining out
For one fucking person?
Also 2775 for a month is like 33k a year of just spending, you have $66,700 left over for the rest of the year of you have an income of 100k. You can pay off a mortgage in a year or two if you really wanted to.

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Welcome to SE, EE and CE starting salary.

>mainstream "news"

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>30 Years old
>58K salary
>Software Sales Manager
>Chicago Area

>thought about doing the same but with romance novels
>don't want my name attached and someone at work SOMEHOW seeing that shit
I know I can use a pen name but still.

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Its not abnormal if you cook all your meals and don't eat out. Its very weird if you combine it with a 250 dollar eating out budget though.

That is the price of a small one habitation room in NY.

you're not including taxes. Probably has more like 33k leftover

>I'm currently in the process of transitioning to a permanent position at the company in the same role. That same role as a permanent employee pays $55k.

user dont count your chickens before theyve hatched. i've seen that expectation go south with permanent employees and it gets ugly.

the best and most sure raises you get are with a new job at a new place.

>What is a library?

Really fucking kills me too. I remember visiting there like 20 years ago and thought it was a very nice city. Maybe it was rose colored because I was a small kid but I don't remember it having even half the problems it has today.

when you're rich it can be cheaper to give some money away

>games are expensive
Pic related. I plan to play these until autumn or winter steam sale. Games lasts you extra longer if you 100% them.

Vidia is anything but expensive.

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usually missing books, not having the ones i want, etc.
libraries are complete shit these days.

>donate 600 dollars a month
>only pay for 20 dollar internet
Yeah, fuck that, I'll donate 300 and have fiber optic please.

Videogames are actually a fairly cheap and time efficient hobby relatively speaking. I hear how much most people spend on one vacation and I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

Well fuck you too, I sleep maybe 5 hours on average in a good night.

I don't even stay up late, I just wake up in the middle of the night.

Thats fucking pathetic. Gas streamers and donators.

>13/hr 43 hrs a week
>Cigar Shop Clerk
>Miami

I spend 100 bucks a month on patreon, but its all smut artists that give me 100% certain "comms". I find it extremely pleasant to not have to deal with commission queues for my monthly smut budget.

>Excellent with money
>Dines out every month
>Has a house cleaner instead of doing it self
>Donations

what the fuck

>tfw Illinois taxes keep going up
How do I escape this hellhole?

~42k

>pirate indie titles
Why? They're so cheap that even buying them doesn't ruin your argument about PC gaming being a cheap hobby.

Pirate AAA games instead.

>excellent with money
>rents
Who the fuck do they think they are fooling here?

>7 to 8 hours for adults
Bullshit

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>Vidia is anything but expensive.
tell that to nintendo and switch owners

I lived in Illinois for a few years. I moved to Louisiana and yes, I consider living in the south an upgrade over Illinois. That shithole state is nothing but corn fields and povertyniggers with malls shoved in between.

yes, but not at only 100k
you give money away to dodge tax brackets and the next one at that range is 250k

Move to Wisconsin or Indiana

>$3k/mth, but getting raise on Monday
>VRcade manager
>Iowa

>health insurance 270
Fuck is this, he has a job paying 100k and they can't give him health insurance?
Most people in the US get health insurance through employers btw

What did you use to teach yourself? I really want to get into programming to diversify my job options. Current stuck as management at a warehouse where I barely make enough to squeak by and while I have lots of opportunities if I keep grinding, I won't see any real money for a long time.

Emulation is a thing too.

I'm right on the border with Illinois, and it's tragic watching their cities wither as people leave for our side. Genuinely the most horribly managed state I can imagine

why would i talk to those "people"?

Its not free user. It costs a certain amount per paycheck. The "health insurance is free through work" thing is a meme for people that have never had a full time job before. Its CHEAPER through a job but its not free.

gdq aint free, brah

>excellent with money
>being so disgusting you spend $30 a month of cleaning supplies
>wasted money on unnecessary things like donations, eating out, and probably expensive luxury groceries
also it must suck for spending over $100 on utilities I never spend over 80

He's excellent compared to his level of income and his relatively immature age, I suppose. People would expect a 25-tears-old who make this much money to like spend thousands every months in expensive wines to show off, or start a car collection. Obviously he can afford a high lifestyle but he's probably not at the level where he's snorting coke off Miss Universe unluckies contestants's navel.

I sleep 6 to 5 hrs a night

It's probably not good for me, but how much free time would I even have if I went to sleep 2 - 3 hrs earlier?

>good with money
>house cleaner
>dining out
>>>donations
rich =/= good with money

Good for you. My electricity bill is more than that and I spend most of my time sitting in the dark. Some places are more expensive than others.

It's crazy any way you cut it for, a single person.

I was in the SF Bay Area until recently. I could go spend $80 on meat and $100 on veggies/fruits/bullshit and be set for at least a month; and I thought that was overkill.

>dude has 3 roommates
>his parents have him on his phone plan
>his parents paid for his college

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This actually makes a lot of sense, thanks user

>rent 825
>cell phone 40
>transportation 130
haha where the hell does this dude live?

Even then, the only real savings come from the tax breaks and grouping together with the other employees. It still basically gets subtracted from money that would otherwise go to paychecks. I feel like the system would be better if it weren't the default way insurance is sold, but what the fuck do I know

yes, and a lot of companies have you pay into the company health insurance

I lived in Grayslake. Being close to Wisconsin was sweet, that's a genuinely decent state with cheap beer and lots of good sausages/cheese.

but property taxes in Grayslake, IL were like 10K a year on a two story home on a quarteracre in a shitty subdivision that stretched forever.

Meanwhile, living out in a ranch style home on an acre in Louisiana and I pay like 500 a year in property taxes for an extremely similar standard of living. Schools here are somewhat worse. but the roads are the same nonexistent quality.

Itt: neets larping about having soul crushing jobs to make themselves feel better about being useless sacks of shit.
You only get like that if you let it happen. I've been in computer engineering for six years now and half the people I've worked with are garbage at their jobs so if you're competent then you're already valuable for being in the upper half of the workforce and you can demand respect for your personal life. I'm a cloud systems engineer making $100k a year on the east coast of America and I never ever work more than 7 hours a day. I usually get to work around 10 and leave between 4 and 5 depending on how I'm feeling. I do that because early on I worked kind of hard and proved that I know what I'm doing and my manager wouldn't dare drop me to roll the dice on getting another decent employee, especially when you factor in the expense of training someone new.
I literally don't understand these threads where people talk about cucking themselves with their job.

Did you not buy toiletries? Did you not buy anything to drink? Did you just drink tap water?

A run down dump full of shitty content to attract enough retarded normalshits that they can justify their government budget to keep doors open. Or did you think the word library meant it had every book every written?

imagine all the donations you could give to the trans-gender bernie reassignment fund if you stopped playing video games

My cell bill is 25 a month. Cricket on a 4 line family plan. No contract, unlimited everything(with metering, obviously, but nothing egregious)

I laugh at peasants who struggle financially while refusing to part with theri 250 dollar a month phone plans.

Tempted to do Wisconsin at this point, though I have no idea what career I should go into near Green Bay.

How the fuck you making $21 in NYC? I'm making $45 at my first job out of college in San Francisco.

>I'm a super important engineer for my company
>east coast
>100k
>b-but i'm super important
lol. enjoying your first year on the job?

>Geotechnical engineer
>40 yrs old
>135k last year, including bonuses

who the fuck on Yea Forums wants to play AAA titles to begin with

I don't inherently hate high property taxes, but literally every fucking possible tax in Illinois is stupid high. At least in Texas you don't have to pay income tax to make up for the high property taxes

Considering Yea Forums is made up largely of teenagers, loads.

Rent free

>paying twice for online
>games never ever on real sale
Hahahahaha. Console peasants cant into reational thinking, thats why they have console in the first place with planned obsolescence.

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How do you mean? Sony has pretty big sales a fairly regularly.

t. dilater

>$130,000 a year
>technical writer
>SF bay area

>make 100k a year
>live in ghetto shithole apartment
>get 20 dollar a month internet from Jimbo with pair of car batteries

What did CNBC mean by this?

And in Texas, the tax dollars they get are actually used pretty well. Texas has great roads overall. Illinois, nothing gets better ever.

Those 250 a month phone plans are usually that stupid "new phone every year" bullshit. I still don't get that. I would rather buy a 200 dollar used phone every 5+ years. Whats the fucking problem.

Lol, you think that word has any affect on me?

They meant he is more spendthrift than the fool who makes 100K a year and still lives paycheck to paycheck

That said, if you're in the 100K bracket, you don't need to be donating half a grand plus per month. Charities waste that shit anyway.

I've been trying to move out to Texas for years, I have a lot of friends there. Man is it fucking hard to get hired by anyone that knows my state of origin, no matter how fat my resume gets.

who the fuck spends 615$ on donations

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You can get a 35 pack of bottled water for like $4.00 if you're really that autistic.

Toilet paper will be the most expensive at 24 pack for $12-14.

I don't buy used phones, I usually buy a mid-tier Samsung like the Galaxy Amp Prime 2. I am currently on a flagship though. One of my normalfag friends wanted to get a Pixel 2, so they gave me a perfectly functional S7 Edge. it's still a very good phone.

>paying for videogames

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>rent
and this is why i'll live with my parents until i have enough saved up to take out a property loan

Texas roads are straight out of City skylines I fucking love it

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>average twitch basedboy

This is clearly made by a boomer inflating his own expenses when he was that age

>*sips* internet and cellphone? Eh thats like a few dollars I guess
>my 3 bedroom mcmansion? Eh prolly like 800 a month right?

what fucking sources are they pulling these from? 800 dollar rent gets you a studio apartment in the fucking ghetto and $20 internet literally doesnt exist.

>video games are an expensive hobby
My video game budget for the entire year is less than $50. I have not spent more than $20 on a videogame in over 5 years. When I do spend money on games it's during steam/christmas sales where I can get a dozen games for ten bucks. There is no reason to buy the newest shit when it'll go on sale for pennies, and there are an infinite amount of free classic games to play.

You can make a ton of money, doesn't mean you can afford a house in that area. If 6 figures is average the homes are 2+ million on average.

I live in NYC making 70k, I cannot buy a house.

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hurry up and finish, you don't want to miss your framerule parallel bufferings or whatever

>tfw all these potholes driving into Chicago fucking up my car

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>health insurance
>donations
>800$ rent
>knows how to spend

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>30/h, 40/h nights and weekends
>currently 1 day a week, 8-10 hours a day
>longshoring
>CA

i started in january and had one good month where id get 4-5 days a week. tariffs are fucking up the workload right now though, and automation could destroy it entirely. fucking sucks getting into a highly sought job with the expectation of financial security and getting this shit

>$60 + tax
imagine being a burgergoy who thinks it's normal or reasonable for shops to advertise products for one price and then require more when you go to pay for them. any civilised country includes tax in the price instead of taking every possible opportunity to mislead and exploit their customers

Finish roasting you? Nah, I prefer it slow.

Totally not misleading to hide how much money the government is taking from you

>longshoring
>CA

are you a masochist

>buying bottled water in a place with really shitty quality tap water is autistic
uh huh

>ranges from $13-$19 an hour since a lot of my hours are overtime
>from 30-40 hours a week
>west Texas
I live pretty comfortably all things considered and when I'm babysitting, I can play vidya all day which is why I live so comfortably for my pay grade. It isn't bad but I can get a better paying job.

>house cleaner
>for a place you are renting for 825 a month

What? Are you paying her to clean the entire 1 square foot of property?

>have to go to an airport
>8 lane hells broken up by toll booths

TOLL ROADS ARE FUCKING CANCER FUCK THE NORTH FUCK ALL YANKEES FUCK EM IN THE ASS

El trains were useful if old and ugly, that's the best I can do.

while you're here can you explain what a subpixel is?

>excellent with money
>400 bucks groceries
>615 bucks donations
>195 bucks """utilities"""
>205 bucks dining out

"""excellent with money"""

Also that graph is extremely retarded. Jesus christ, who lives like that?

He's in NYC. I imagine the prices of whole foods there must be ridiculous. That utilities bill isn't even that bad.

the only person i ever knew who did longshoring was my dad and now i imagine everyone online who talks about being a longshoreman as my dad and it feels weird.

Imagine donating money

Donations to charity can be used as a tax write off

>$26/hr 40 hrs a week
>Marketing Automation Officer
>Denver

Living at home with my parents right now and it's based

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>house cleaner
ell em ayy oh

I noticed the further north I went, the shittier the roads and more toll booths. You'd figure with all that extra money they make from toll booths that the roads wouldn't be so shit.

Not any more than a Wikipedia article would. Also I build enterprise systems, not toys.

This is the biggest fucking financial myth ever. Donating will always net you a loss period unless you are donating shit you would otherwise throw away.

Making more money will always result in you making more money period. That is literally the point of marginal tax brackets is that you only pay the higher tax on the money you earn after a certain point. It doesn't apply retroactively to the rest of your income.

You don't pay your tax bracket, you pay ALL the tax brackets up to whatever your income is.

>Baby boomer does anything.
>Its hopelessly, hilariously fucking retarded.
Like clockwork. They're basically subhuman at this point.

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Texas is nice in that the gas tax is only allowed to be used on roads, Texas has very strict guidelines on where its tax money can go, and it results in shit like this.
Meanwhile since I moved to maryland with its bullshit income taxes, we have absolutely garbage usage of taxes.

I miss Texas, minus the heat and allergens.

Ignoring the entire point that it's $4 and doesn't justify a $400 grocery bill for a single person so you can continue arguing is pretty fucking autistic though.

well you're no fun

>want to get into voice acting
>need to move to a high tax shithole like Los Angeles to even get a chance

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Why not just not donate? Does someone personally come to your house and shake your dick if you donate to some shitty charity for no reason?

You are lucky user, my mom threw me out as soon as I was making more than minimum wage. She then sold the house and moved away, now I am barely struggling to survive.

Get your parents something nice

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Honestly it's probably just dumbass millenial spending. We're not so smart when it comes to spending money on food.

Its a pipe dream dude dont even bother

>4 member family and we spend $200 at most
How the fuck. I probably spend ~$150 per month on food alone, and the only place worse and cheaper than here is some rando african country. And no, I'm not fat, rather the opposite.

The concept itself isn't a myth. The myth is that normal people can do it. You don't see the benefit unless you're moving shit tons of money around.

That's not what your mother said.

Why do people think the government gives your money back if you donate money? You get jackshit back if anything at all

U wot? I haven't ate out since graduating from college which was two years ago. Having your own kitchen to make food the way you want is both healthier and less expensive.

shut up, son

>Dining out $250

Jesus how many times are you dining out a month and how expensive are these places? I think I barely hit that number paying for someone else as well.

>$400 Groceries

Are you feeding a whole family here or just shopping solely at whole foods?

Also
>$600 Donations a month

yes it is she has said that several times

>$400 on groceries
>eating out
Is this a joke?

>mom promises to pay for my college
>signs off on my student loans
>pivots a few years in
>forces me to sign off and now I'm the one paying $340 a month
>charges me rent to live with her so I know what it's like "living in the real world"
>can't scrape together enough savings to live on my own because she keeps scalping me
>gets absolutely furious when I bring up money
Living with your parents isn't always paradise user.

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I forgo the vacations and dump the money into more video games

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I meant to me.

what do you mean? repubs are the ones against unions. its also the biggest port in the US(maybe the world?), so i think it has more work than the other ports, even divided among the high number of workers

Charging rent on top of the college fees is kinda rough there, mom. I'm not a fan of enabling lazy children, but that arrangement seems shit, user. Maybe you should try renting with a friend?

>take home c£1800 per month after tax
>mortgage £350
>utilities/internet/phone/council tax etc, including subs like netflix/spotify c£250
>car payments (inc insurance/petrol etc) c£300
>train pass £50
>groceries £200

That leaves me about £650 a month after the essentials. Plenty for games if I want to, but generally about £400 of it goes into savings.

This is the tightest I've run in a while, but the car will be paid off this time next year, so that'll leave me with a lot more headroom to work with.

>$825 per month rent

Lol not in Canada

>visit home
>boomer parents, aunts, and uncles eat out at a restaurant almost every night
>spend as much as i spend on groceries in a week
i dont understand boomers

>$21/hr 40 hrs a week
>Software engineer
>NYC

I make 21CAD/hr cleaning toilets and locker rooms for the government in Quebec. Move here and you could make double that for a lower living cost, dude.

>what's more important
>knowing accurately for every purchase how much I actually need to pay for it
>or knowing accurately for every purchase exactly how much of what I give to the shop gets passed on to the government in tax, when I already know what the rates are and how big a cut they're getting
only a burger could find this choice confusing

My parents (specifically mother) hates eating out and will only do it if she's invited to some party. They both think restaurant food tastes disgusting and prefer to make shit themselves.

You're doing well, user. I applaud your financial security and good decision making.

Rent's absurd around here. All of my friends are currently on free rides from their parents so they have no interest in moving out.

Who is he donating to? Chinese fentanyl traffickers?

Right, I wouldn't be either. I dunno, man. I guess just do what you have to and get away as soon as it's financially sound to do so.

It is absolutely a myth because there is no point at which the tax write off from donations results in more money than the donation itself. All it does is slightly incentivize donating by not punishing doing so instead of consuming.

Moving shit tons of money around doesn't change this at all.

>friend wants me to move in with him
>$1,300+ a month rent while working for $15/hr

That's why they're taxing video games so they can fix them you right wing retard

>donations
>house cleaner
>650 on food

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>100K per year
>2775 in spending per month
Someone explain. I guess they're saving HALF their paycheck?

Why cant i be a gamer and make money

It's less sound planning and more being able to live with my parents rent free for 18 months to build up a deposit larger than I needed so my mortgage would be cheaper. No way I'd be in this position if I had still be renting, it's a lot harder to save when you're pissing away £800 a month to pay someone else's mortgage.

>roasties siphoning off children
It checks out

Fuck it I want to move out ASAP. Just another year or two at this rate and I might have enough for a downpayment.

switch really isn't that bad fuck limited run games and super rare games though I like physical and am not willing to support their stupid bullshit

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I'm the user from I offered to help my mom with bills but she refused. I ended up moving to Vermont to work in a factory which took my soul and damaged my knees. I tried to move back without landing a job in my home of NYC but she told me I was a slob when I lived at home and proverbially told me to fuck off and live in my flea infested apartment complex.

I'm still angry about it to this day.

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>TFW I've been money to charities since I started working
Not sure why honestly

Why? In the behind the scenes for some games they show voice actors in their home studios. Just buy a decent mic and glue some foam on your wall and be a contractor.

Mr. Money Mustache would from die from laughter if he saw this shit.

i've made over 2000 dollars today trading cryptocurrencies

>lying on the internet

$13/hr 27 hours a week
retail slave

sure is hard to live, too bad i'm too dumb to make the most of my life but that's how it goes

at least I got 1800 hours out of splatoon 2

>donation 615
>dining out 250
>house fucking cleaner
what the fuck

I live in NW Calgary (the least bad quadrant of the city) and I pay $700/month, plus $50ish for utilities. It's a small one bedroom apartment, it'd be cramped to have more than one person living there, but it's serviceable and I can get to the train station easily so I'm not complaining.

>$110k a year
>Software engineer
>Sacramento
You're getting gypped, man. Look for a new job.
As for videogames, I don't spend that much on them ever since I started spending all my time on gacha games. I've only spent $24 in the last year.

nobody they want you read the headline and see the graph and then come to the conclusion that millenniels are simply irresponsible

Yeah except they haven't fixed them the last 50 times they raised taxes for road expenses Bernout.

>$20/hr 40 a week
>GIS Analyst
>Milwaukee

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My home city is skewed as fuck because of Toronto, so I can't live here at all.

The average rent is around $1700 a month here.

In Alberta its that rough.

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but they literally say
>excellent with money

Business analyst
26/hr

I get by

Why wouldn't you? And in fact judging by this thread you could do save even more. Everyone's first goal in the workforce should be establishing some form of financial independence.

$60k-70k a year into investments gets you financially independent really quickly even at conservative rates of return. You could either retire or pull your weight around willing to leave jobs at the drop of a hat as opposed to those stuck there because they have no savings to fall back on.

Financial independence is true freedom.

they don't live in us and are a dirty third worlder is how

Oh you are going to love this user. If we limit ourselves to vegetables only we can easily get by for less than $50. Obviously not ideal to forgo meat but we've had worse. I love this country if only it weren't for expensive electronics. A well used thinkpad x240 costs ~$350 goddammit, and $100 for 10mb/s internet? God.

The only differences that exist in different tax brackets are at the lower ones anyway, where you're too poor and they give you free health insurance and pay your rent and shit. Only at that point does making more money make you lose benefits such as insurance and heating bill payments from the state.

it's bait

tomorrow
>i've lost 2000 dollars today trading cryptocurrencies

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"The fact that charitable donations can be deducted from taxable income implies that the richest individuals, who face the highest marginal tax rate, have the greatest incentive to donate because they face the lowest marginal cost of giving. (For them, charitable giving carries with it the highest effective subsidy.) In other words, for an individual facing a marginal tax rate of 30 percent, the price of a dollar given to charity is 70 cents; the remaining 30 cents are paid by the government in taxes foregone, hence the subsidy. (Note that someone who does not itemize deductions effectively pays a price of one dollar for each dollar of giving.)"

I mean I guess I still have loans, so most of that money that would be saved is instead going to beefy loan payments.
Typically though I only save 20% (1000) per paycheck.

In other words, a person can make a living if they make around 2.3k a month

Another user but I actually did the other day. It's not everyday and sometimes you lose, but it's a nice income once you know what you're doing.

Don't throw more money at it than what you are willing to lose and be sure to withdraw some percentage each time you make a gain.

>leaf

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>I live in NYC making 70k, I cannot buy a house.
Stop living in a shitty overpriced urban area then.

Rookie numbers but I'm still proud of you user.

This is what they consider “excellent with money”

i dont buy digital media because im not a literal fucking retard

>Internet $20
>Cell phone $40
maybe if you like having 5mbp/s and a phone from 2007.

>tfw you're excellent with money

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>between jobs, but I was making $20/hr as a carpenter until i moved last month
>Oregon

also who the fuck makes $100k and still spends so little on their commodities, like that's a barebones phone/internet plan and shitty one bedroom apartment in the dumps

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$200 utilities
$200 groceries
$300 property tax
$400 insurance
$800 investing

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I'm from here you faggot, my whole family and friends all live here. I was here before it became disney for retarded rich people.

you get a dollar deducted from your taxes for every dollar you donate, right? so if you make a dollar and are taxed 30%, you receive 70 cents. if you donate a dollar pretax, and receive that dollar as credit on your taxes, you've received a full dollar of value since you would have had to spend that dollar to cover your taxes anyway. at least i think thats how it works

He wasn't even offering an opinion, just stating a fact

>$22k/yr
>assistant engraver/designer
>Dallas

I donate 15-20% of my income because I am extremely frugal otherwise and there is such a vast homeless problem across DFW that needs to be taken care of. automation will fuck so name people over before too long and I'll likely end up in the streets too which terrifies me and don't want people who are there now to feel subhuman like I worry I might.

All of these
>donations
fags

None of you have filed your own taxes.

to say nothing of being selfish cock masters, none of you even realize
>donations
means you have some choice in the matter of where your money is spent, rather than leaving it all up to shit master politicians in respective capitols.

donations as in twitch thots

>mfw I'm 25 and my budget is more than this except I only make 23k a year

JUST

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>I was here before it became disney for retarded rich people.
It's been like this for nearly 50 years user. It's time to let it go.

enjoy your audit

Any other Anons here a highly paid Amazon associate waiting for death?

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>100k a year
>25 year old
wtf is this shit

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>automation will fuck so name people over before too long
you have no idea, and you wanna know the best? Nobody is fucking ready and you're gonna witness some wild shit going on, one of the biggest economical crisis ever

Do you really think the huge "charitable donations" from wealthy people and corporations are done out of the goodness of their hearts, and not because it benefits their bottom line in the long run?

>Be living in shitty barracks in the military
>Chow at the galley is $6 and some change every meal aside from dinner
>Come home to barracks after work and relax and play vidya
>Use gym which is free for all military members the fee is taken out of our paychecks every month or so but the shit is like $10 for the fee so w/e
>Make decent pay, certainly enough for some vidya like 3 games a year and enough to save
>Game on Switch, 3DS, Laptop and PS4
Pic related, it's my room. Life's not too bad.

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only the girls get audited dumbass

>Rich people don't even donate jackshit.
Look at him and laugh. Rich people scam the fuck out of taxes with their charities.

sorry dad

I'm talking roman candle fights in the streets, pre-Giuliani NYC.

Where the fuck is here finding a place for $825 a month? I don't even live in the city and rent below $1200 doesn't exist.

>>$21/hr 40 hrs a week
>>Software engineer
>>NYC
How is this possible?
>be me
>no college education
>$21/hour, 40 hours a week
>security guard

Too bad you can't get one of those magical rent controlled apartments that have been continuously occupied by the same family for 50 years

delet this

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>spending so frivilously on nonsense
>literally GIVING AWAY almost 25% of your monthly income instead of saving it for stuff you want to do/have or invest in
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING DOING

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>groceries $400
>dining out $250
>house cleaner $30
>donations $615
>and is EXCELLENT with money
nigga what ?

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nah we're pretty good at inventing services we will just fill in wherever the money ends up flowing. it won't be an issue for me either way

most likely if this proverbial person does exist they don't "earn" $100k a year but rather that's given to them from their trust fund and they have to keep up appearances for their family

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>buy $60 game
>beat the game
>instantly sell it for $50
>buy new game for $10
>continue the cycle
It's cheap when you are not a hoarder

It's only good for companies who can put out their collection bins, get free money from retarded consumers, donate it then write off a signification portion of it from their taxes

Reminder, if you ever gave money to a company for "charity" you literally paid for their taxes

Not really a donation then is it Mr smartguy.

>you can suck rich people cock for 20 an hour

Fuck them

What the fuck is up with you retards buying individual water bottles? This is just wasteful jesus fuck. You just drink and finish one and what, chuck it to the trash? Invest in a purifier system if you are concerned with your local tap water goddammit this shit makes me angry

They need to absorb the plastics, it helps with their eventual tranny conversion

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hoarding is cheap just don't buy current gen

I move data between databases for a living. this kind of shit didn't even exist in the past

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Post Trannymatic Stress Disorder?

That'll be more like $50

games are expensive but so few good ones come out that it balances out

only played 2 games in the past year, kenshi and vermintide 2

>$410/day/2-3week shiftwork
>i look at vegetation growing under powerlines and report it to the line owner
>east kootenays

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not really, but TECHNICALLY

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Its 65 cents for a water bottle vs like a hundred bucks for a good filter + additional accessories over the course of its lifetime

especially when water bottle sellers have been caught just filling that shit up at the tap lmao

>Food & Dining
>$879.98

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different experiences can be fun to talk about with people who have played the same game.

There's literally nothing wrong with contributing to proper charity but this chart definintly gives out the vibe of an urbanized onionboy cuck that gives out to Twitch thots

not poisoning yourself with xenoestrogens and CIA mind control nanomachines is probably the best investment you can make in your life

use soiboy or sΩyboy

I've been trying to write a blogpost too about my situation since this thread had 20 replies,
but I fucking CAN'T.
It just breaks me, I'm mad. I feel so small and unfairly mistreated. It shouldn't be like this. It's so hard to be truthful.

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>shopping $1000 a month

You are not good with money

Nope, you get maybe ~$.30 back on each dollar. Donating just decreases your taxable income before it gets taxed. You just effectively lose only $1 rather than $1.3 when you don't donate. If your tax burden is $3000 and you donate $1000, you'll only decrease your burden down to like $2700, meaning you paid $1000 to get $300 off. Granted you did effectively only pay $700 to give some else $1000, so your money is going slightly farther.

They do it for advertising and sometimes yes, these organizations are made of people who have just as much of a heart as everyone else, especially when a large amount to everyone else is 1% of their income and even less of their wealth.

Well just stop being bad with money faggot, pull yourself up by your bootstraps :^)

>sΩyboy
that just makes my brain say sohmboy

That's not how tax brackets and deductibles work.

Tell us, user. Maybe it will help to get it off your chest?

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Let me guess you have a credit card and thought it was free money?

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syby

This seems like a good place to ask. My situation right now is abysmal. I don't even have a GED. I'm 20 years old, with almost zero work experience. Where the fuck do I go from here? I've been trying to get my GED, obviously, but with how much I'm struggling with that I can't fucking imagine going on to even a shitty community college.

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> $27/hr 40 + overtime
> Field Engineer
> CT

I threw as much as I could in my 401K and I live cheaply since I do work for my parents on the side while I live in their house + low rent. My main costs come from just going out with friends

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yeah that month's budget is fucked up I should have marked my credit card payment as a transfer also I did a bit of stocking up at walmart and bought a grill. this month is more typical

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Wait, you only spend $270 a years for your healthcare? What the fuck, a Yuropoor spends waaaay more than that in taxes for their healthcare.

Europe is a scam.

>these organizations are made of people who have just as much of a heart as everyone else
I wish I still had this innocence.

Make £2k a year after tax, 800 goes to rent, 200 to bills, then I throw 400 in savings so I'm left with 600 to do whatever I want with.

Also I can't remember the last time I bought a full priced game.

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or how about we find new words to call people you don't like and stop beating the pile of dust that was once a long dead horse

Oh per month. That's still less than what a yuropoor pays in taxes.

unironically this

some of the stuff I bought that month

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Most professions need some sort of education to do well. Try just looking into a trade that you think you can learn so that you don’t feel pigeon holed to go to college

Jesus this is an old one, I remember seeing it in like 2010, except it was music and itunes

What 25 year old makes 100k a year in America? How is internet only 20 USD, is it dial up? And literally ZERO 25 year old are going to be donating that much.

Thank you for proving me right.

>$25/hr 50 hrs a week
>QA
>argentina

no

would rather my taxes go to healthcare than wars for israel