Sony Positions Next PlayStation for Niche Audience

>SONY BAD
>NINTENDO GOOD
There I summed up this thread for you

>Nintendo Co. isn’t perceived as a major rival, the person said, because its main users tend to be younger than PlayStation’s core demographic.
Who pirate less and are impulse driven into buying things
>A second Sony official said the company believes people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games
Which is better on a pc
The only possibility is for them single player exclusive games and multiplayer cross console.

>Which is better on a pc
Top played PC games prove you otherwise

>wall street journal
>have to subscribe to see it

Yea, unlike the top-played console games, which are just the pinnacle of top-end graphics.

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>playstation
>niche

yeah fucking right

Nobody wants to put their games on a sony platform because all their characters must look like walking bundles of laundry

Those games especially CoD WWII look better then DOTA, CSGO, LOL, PUBG

How?
Only if you can show me selling numbers of the same game for sony and pc. Or if you can show me numbers of similar graphic intense games. But still than it can differ because it was a shit game, see fallout46 which failed of shit game than te shit graphics it had.

>EA buys Sony's console division
>It just releases sportball games for brown people
What a world to live in

It's their fault when Sony acts like cucks and hire sjw californian scum to make video games

Literally ai up scaling
I've tried it on deep learning and dlss nvidiot meme it's trash and nowhere near ready in current models
4k 120hz will be the top end of what gen 9 can do even with a mid gen refresh with pro models
4k 60hz is more likely to cater to all those morons who bought older TV's and shit slow fps monitors

They practically have next gen in their palms and are reveling in it.

nah
blame technology and people getting mini-computers in their pockets this pretty much ruined everything

>next gen
>more movie shit and walking cutscene simulators overriding actual gameplay

Bitch elsewhere.

>graphics-heavy games
Yikes i sure love playing interactive movies that are 90% cut scenes

lmao. seeing the ps5 flop is going to be entertaining. probably the best entertainment to come out of sony since the ps2 died

we has already a thread you cocksucker OP, anyway
>hard gamers
yeah, sure, this generation Sony prove it, movies, capeshit, walking simulators, etc.

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Look at the most played steam game ever, PUBG, graphics

Then look at the graphics of CoD WWII which sold millions on ps4

>aimed at serious players.
the meaning of this
what is it

How fucking dare families have some fun together.

pl3ease tell me he pulled that spiderman out of the box

Sony are dumb and bricks. They said they aren't going to support small studios anymore but they don't worry about it because playstation is such a big platform they'll put their games on it anyway. I wouldn't bet on that and arrogant sony is back.

899 USD ps5 incoming

>The next PlayStation will be capable of processing 8K ultra-high-definition graphics, said the PlayStation unit’s chief, Jim Ryan, in May.
Wow, I'm sure those games will be full of creativity and originality

Bigger studios=Bigger returns
Not so hard to understand, mutt.

Fucking kek, didnt even notice that

people who want movie games and shooters

>Looking better than Dota
>Looking better than CSGO
>Looking better than LoL
Shocker
>Looking better than pubg
>Fifa, GTA5, Minecraft, and RL look better than pubg
Nah.

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LITERALLY $1000 USD INCOMING

BTFO
T
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>The next Playstation will be capable of 16K ray tracing mega HD walking simulators with hyperrealistic VR support

>The next PlayStation will be capable of processing 8K ultra-high-definition graphics
ah yes, lies

someone post the "DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES" collage, pls. thanks.

>abandoning support for small studios is a good thing!

If publishers all started abandoning small studios we wouldn't have great games like cuphead which is one of the best examples of supporting a studio and game right before it was going to be canned.

>people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games
No. I just want performance 60+FPS
Also stop censoring shit sony you faggots

well it does come with the physical game as to rather or not he took it out of the box i have no idea

>censony
>playcensored
No.

>I don't like these games, they don't count

>ps4 is literally just full of third worlder fusbol loving dirt people
Holy shit the sonyroach meme is real

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And i bet PUBG on Playstation 4 has more sold copies than CoD WWII.
They say the sold numbers on playstation 4 are nearly as much as fifa 19.
So PUBG had better numbers than CoD WWII which means your argument is obsolet! Because followin your logic it should work that way because bad graphics.

If Sony is caring about the niche audience, they better get rid of their racist policy then.

>appeal to niche
>while censoring and putting in commiefornian sjw agendas everywhere

??????????

mobile games would have archieved that anyways

That's just the second side effect to Nintendo's bs. Nintendo enabled the mineset to the world, while Mobile ran with it.

Yea man, because Fifa, Minecraft, console GTA V, and Rocket League sure are graphical powerhouses.

Isn't this what happened with the PS3? Made a killing with the PS2. Got too full of themselves and then released a $600 console?

OH NONONONONONOONONONO
SONY ARE LITERALLY FUNDING MICROSOFT THROUGH MINECRAFT THIS CAN'T BE FUCKING HAPPENING

>more movie games

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>more than half the playsation players are GTA wiggers
lmao, "hardcore gaming" amirite.

so niche?

you're right my fellow zoomer, time for fornite and fifa 2020

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it's gonna be 999 and they'll advertise you that "it's cheaper than a tablet, what a steal!"

trannies are a niche poblation tho

or i could spend a little more on a gtx 2080ti and get much better performance

Nintendogs frothing from the mouth is always a good thing.

>And i bet PUBG on Playstation 4 has more sold copies than CoD WWII.
Nope

But its just a GPU, how the fuck are you gonna play games on a gpu

i already have the computer

Pffffhahaha, wasn't it just a few years ago ther were all WE LOVE INDIES AND PHONEGAME PORTS! Nice to see that work out for them.

>All the people crying about censorship ITT
The games that got censored were weeaboo fapbait, they're not these "hardcore games" you speak of.

micro or nano, minicomputers are cabinet-sized.

This shit is going to be $700 at release
Screencap this post

Just goes to know they still don't know what made the original Playstation to take off. This is the same attitude they had when the PS3 launched. They banked on it would sell based on the brand alone not the content.

ps5 is going to flop like a motherfucker

>not a single exclusive
the absolute state of sony

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censorship is always bad no matter what is censored retard

DELETE DIS

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Well they were popular on Sony's consoles and when Sony move to California and went full racist on Japan and censor their games, the Japaese devs jumped ship to the Switch and PC.

All Japanese devs need to do is file a class action lawsuit on Sony.

OH NONONONONONO
a Microsoft game has sold more

Fun is only for degenerates

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>People buy a video game console to play graphics heavy games
This is a complete falsehood. I have a PC for those ultra real ass graphics games, and I have a PS4 and Switch for when I don’t care about graphics or want to play an exclusive. And thanks to Xbox now putting their shit on PC, I basically own everything. None of the companies won the console war. I did.

>WTF WHY FBI NOT ALLOW ME TO HAVE CP, STOP CENCORING MEEEEEEEEE
kys

Yeah, but weeb faggots are acting like Sony are hypocrites for trying to be hardcore while they're censoring "hardcore games" when the only censoring they've done is weeaboo fapbait.
I'm not defending Sony at all, I'm just mocking the weebtards that think anything Japan shits out is Super Mario Bros. 2 on the famicom.

>ITT: Nincels fucking seething
You can smell the asshurt, then saying they don't see Nintendo as a rival and that they don't care about indie and mediocre 240p games really rustled Yea Forums pretty heavily.

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Remember when Yea Forums was absolutely sure Sony was going under and there wouldn't be a PS4?

Nintendo players are the most oppressed group in history.

>>ps4 is literally just full of third worlder fusbol loving dirt people
Every game sells better on PS4. West and japanese. Sorry PC/Nintendo shit eaters.
>everywhere
>couple of shitty visual novels
What a retard.

>Vidya gross revenue is higher than the music and movie industries combined.
>Niche
Snoy's current leadership really doesn't know what it is doing with the Playstation anymore does it?

This?

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Sony hasn't had a good playstation console since 2 and i can only expect the PS5 will have just as shitty an exclusive library as the PS3 and PS4 did before it.

>Niche audience
So, weaboos and big tiddies loving Anons?
If Playstation is for niche audience then what the hell are considered mainstream in console gaming industry then??

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dilate

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A niche audience of people who like... um.. "ray tracing"?

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so what?

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Judging by their recent censorship, they're going for the niche audience that doesn't like tiddies. Sony's got all the men's sports games and men-only shooters to save your virgin eyes from the offense of looking upon any virtual female skin.

so this means it's a decently powerful console with no shitty gimmicks, nice

>PlayStation a niche product, aimed at serious players.
And yet it has the highest Call of Duty and FIFA numbers.

I wish video games were judged on their gameplay and weren't political battlegrounds for the latest /pol/ vs SJWs debate.

>called the PlayStation a niche product
>aimed at serious players
Who actually believes this? Who is this message meant to pander to? "Serious players," if such a thing exists, are informed enough to know better.

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Daily reminder that nintendofags don't care about what Sony has to say about anything. Just a thought.

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You're the retard, these policies are set to affect every game released on their console. They tested the waters with DMCV and got their asses handed to them.

I wish sony would say "we are going to stop censoring games"
Then maybe a ps5 would be on the table to buy
As it is fuck them

have fun

Same people who whined and bitched about State of Play suddenly wants indieshit to be a highlight again.

>Who is this message meant to pander to?
Normies who think they're somehow hardcore players.

Maybe sony should make games and not movies.

enjoy paying 600$ for a glorified DVD player snoytards

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You're correct. Not everybody can be as based as Nintendo and turn off the wii eshop and wii online games. Hopefully Sony turns off ps3 online store and all games to be as based as Nintendo.

Mouth breathing normalfags is not niche, sony
You are lucky to have a cult behind your playstation and its games, but if you ever lose that, the speed of light will be fucking slow compared to how fast you will fall

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Hopefully this will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony.

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They're making the same mistakes they did with Ps3.
Microsoft looking better than ever with gamepass, supporting devs, buying studios, and being consumer friendly.
Nintendo still pumping out decent quality as usual, having neat hardware instead of pure power, and not censoring shit.

Feels bad to be a sonychad right now.

How's last and 2nd place? Imagine being a nintendildo.

Always. Nintendogs are constantly frothing from the mouth anytime Sony moves.

I wouldn't know.

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>niche
Because China and Asia as a whole only play mobileshit. India will probably buy into this trash to eventually. Billions of people playing mobile trash only.

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daily reminder there is even less reason to own a switch than there is a PS4.

I swear if 1080p isn't even 60 fps, I don't want it.

>xfag
So you just hate video games, good for you.

>Then maybe a ps5 would be on the table to buy
This tbqh. I just can't give money to these people and their obnoxious policies that encourage journo scummy way of shaming the devs using the word "sexist", "racist" and etc..
>Normies who think they're somehow hardcore players.
You just can't help it mate. Normalfags always think that they're hardcore and shit when most of these people couldn't even be bothered to beat a vidya they bought. Kinda sad, not gonna lie.

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xchad, thank you.

Totally agree. All those retarded normalfags buying shitches with no games.

>A second Sony official said the company believes people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games
So basically, they're launching another $600 base price console?

>468546571
>A second Sony official said the company believes people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games
Yikes. Do they even realize in 2015 the PS4 sold hundreds of thousands of consoles because people wanted to play Bloodborne? Oh yeah, the graphics not the gameplay sold me on that one. Fucking retards.

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How's 2nd place(the first loser)?

30fps is more cinematic, so that will be the target for all resolutions. Don't want it to look too gamey.

what's a matter poor boi can only afford a Ningoydo

As I said, I wouldn't know.

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Stop with the fucking 4k/8k meme you fucking retard devs.

4k/8k means JACK SHIT if it's fluctuating between 15 and 30 fps constantly.

Work on getting solid 120fps with no dips whstsoever, THEN you can focus on 4k/8k

This tbqh. I'd take solid 1440p/120 frames over literally anything else right now.

Smartphones and facebook games are more to blame than the Wii

8k will be video-only for BDs. 4k will be upscaled. 60fps might finally be achievable at 1080p, nothing higher. Screencap this, I'm Kreskin.

Xbox One X already does 1080p 60fps on every game. I mean sure Sony has to play catch up but maybe but the bar a little higher sweetie.

blame the PS2. It brought in the most amount of people. You really think all 154 million of them bought it strictly for games abd not the DVD player? kek

>above 60
waste of time
cap it at 60 and call it a day

>6 years after E3 2013
>Sony became the bad guy
What happened Yea Forumsros? Aren't they supposed to be the chosen one?
All the news from these last few years really made me hate them. I can't believe these are the same people that I called my nigger back then.
What happened?

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Niche because it's aimed at fags, or niche because it won't be backwards compatible with previous PlayStations?

Sadly normies don't give a fuck about framerates, they just see the 4k UHD icon and go full soiface mode "WOOW IT LOOKS SO GOOD. THIS IS EPIC"

meanwhile their system is struggling to stay above 10FPS, but they don't give a fuck, it's 4k.

Fucking normies with 0 standards enabling this garbage

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Man, if Sony fans are cancer now I don't even want to imagine what they will become when PS5 focus on hardcore ones

It'll turn into fucking Chernobyl

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Where is the problem beyond calling the only real gamers a "niche" audience?

Actually, normalfags love good framerates when they actually see them. Last time I upgraded my PC (it's been 3 years since I built it, so it's not nearly as nice now) my friends all commented on how smooth every game was and how they loved being able to see everything so clearly in motion.

How are third person shooters “niche”?

Because Candy Crush, retard. Use your braaaaaain.

This. If you want to make movies, work in the movie industry, not the gameing industry.

Something popular doesn’t qualify as niche because other popular thing exists

Wow I didn't expect Sony to become the next Sega. I'm gonna miss the Playstation

Look, I'm just explaining how markets work. It isn't "niche" like stamp collecting is but it's considered a niche to multibillion dollar media conglomerates that work in film, television, mobile games, console games, PC games, books etc.

>gaystation
>niche
is this how you make normies feel elite
brave jewish japs

That's not censorship because to produce child porn, you need to abuse children, thus violating their rights. Note that in the US fictional pornographic materials (drawn, cg, fiction) regarding minors are in fact legal because these do not involve harming actual children.

This would have happened naturally bc there’s good money to be made

>Xbox One X already does 1080p 60fps on every game.
Not really, most games don't even have a 1080p mode and even some of the ones that do don't run at 60 FPS.

wrong and precedent has already been set in the U.S. regarding drawings of children being counted as cp. also all their appeals were denied eventually all you pervs ass is going to end up in jail
>mlive.com/news/muskegon/2016/06/child_porn_without_children_2.html

Yeah, I remember. I also remember when Yea Forums was convinced that the Wii U's failure would convince Nintendo to go third-party.

Fanboys of all stripes, quit trying to predict the future. Please.

>I also remember when Yea Forums was convinced that the Wii U's failure would convince Nintendo to go third-party.
people say this about microsoft now too. it's history repeating itself. whoever flops next gen will be on course to go third party, again.

Nintendo doesn't attend TGS

Loli is legal in the US m8, it's protected by the first amendment.
Those 2 were charged because they're already sex offenders and are habitual offenders, and no one's going to have any sympathy for them.
As far as federal law is concerned, all forms of drawn pornography are protected speech.

At the time it was unironically a likely scenario. Sony had lost absolutely ridiculous amounts of money, and tons of Sony branches and businesses went under. Playstation just happened to not be one of them.

are those Sony's "hardcore gaymers"

wrong again enjoy when the crackdown comes perverts legal precedent has been set

are they trying to drop the price of their paper so someone can buy them all???

That's actually not how it works, the courts in a bumfuck flyover state like Michigan don't really have any impact on the rest of the country.

It's really depressing how neo-Sonyfags will actually defend current Sony's policies.

What does this mean for Danganronpa?

If it comes at a cost of me losing my fun then they can get fucked

sony is so cancerous that console gaming is now seen as niche because it doesn't pull in as much as mobileshit. it's not niche, it's just a different market. $60 complete (hopefully) game with dlc as opposed to 'free' game that cost $50k to make and has a small amount of retards spending hundreds of dollars every month on the game.

god I hate snoy

>retards will unironically seethe about a 799 dollar console

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Japan itself is killing the game industry by making gachashit.

They do though.

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The Playstation brand isn't the only gaming division Sony has. The Sony-owned Aniplex is behind Fate/Grand Order and Madoka Magia Record, which have been freely contributing to the "cancer".

Aniplex isn't a gaming brand. Even though they've got some tie-in games tied to their multi-media projects.

This until they actually start development themselves aa games for their markets.

Lmao Sony literally casualized games for normies with the first Playstation. People here are legitimately retarded.

Am I the only one that thinks it is amusing Sony is worried about MS as its competitor. This is coming from someone locked into the xbox ecosystem until 2022 due to 2 years of xbox gold converted to ultimate for 1 dollar.

>A second Sony official said the company believes people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games

Well sadly they aren't wrong about this. Outside of very well established IP's like anything Nintendo puts out the casual masses do want graphics heavy games and that is what attracts them to games above all. This is why companies spend so much time with fake bullshots and videos of games not even actually running on real hardware or even the actual engine. I'm predicting the movie game is going to grow twice as large as it is now at least in the next gen because this is the modern Sony/gamer audience largely wants.

What Yea Forums considers the "core audience" is actually niche. Most people who play on both console and PC are what Yea Forums would call casual. Statistically, the absolute majority of Playstation owners have NEVER bought a Sony game. Most buy it to play normie multiplats like COD, Fortnite, Fifa, Overwatch, Assassin's Creed, etc. And if you look at the Steam spec distribution, the majority are playing on potato tier devices.

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>move from xbox 360/ps3 era to next gen
>sony killing it, proved to be better than xbone, better games, deals with indies etc.
>doing so well nobody even talked about xbone Yea Forums for a very long time
>suddnely move to California, capital of modern "progressivism"
>gay parades, censorship, everything is politics, neil druckmann, "80 of players are faggots" bullshit
>it's all about graphics, right kids? also degenerate flags in your games
>fuck indie devs, fuck e3 and fuck you, cis bigots

Just why in the hell did they do this?
Did they really see that much profit in moving to that degenerate cesspool?
Before it all I remember how I was thinking about getting a good pc and a ps4 when I saw how well they were doing when that gen started, but I couldn't then because I was a poorfag. Then slowly I watched them get worse and worse as they shot themselves in the foot then in the head.
It was so weird seeing how it wasn't xbox killing sony, wasn't nintendo, pc, nothing, it was sony. They were on top and just fucking jumped off

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>And if you look at the Steam spec distribution, the majority are playing on potato tier devices.
The difference is, on Steam you regularly see extremely niche games reaching the top 10.
Hell, Total War Three Kingdoms sold 1 million units in like a week despite being an extremely niche PC exclusive.

Posting in the quarter hourly Sony seeth thread.

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Well xbox 360 kind of punched them.in the mouth after ps2 dominated sales the previous gen and Xbox has been winning back consumer confidence lately. I don't think Sony is worried but they are right in saying ot's their closest competitor.

>>doing so well nobody even talked about xbone Yea Forums for a very long time
Playstation wasn't even doing well, Xbox was just doing absolutely abysmally. There is a difference.
In many ways the PS4 was even a straight step down from the PS3, especially in stark contrast to the PS3 at the time of the PS4's release. The PS4 wasn't doing well, its competition was just bad. There is a very clear difference.
The PS4 wasn't an "upgrade". It's the first Playstation that wasn't.

Maybe if Nintendo would actually make good hardware Sony would finally die.

Projecting much?

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>A second Sony official said the company believes people buy a videogame console to play graphics-heavy games
>Some executives at smaller game makers say they have felt snubbed by Sony, in contrast to Nintendo
Oh boy, I can't wait for the PS3 2.

Not a chance though, Nintendo is too addicted to cutting corners on their consoles for easy money.

I wish you guys could play Bloodstained instead of seething about Sony so much. I'm sure you'll get a patch soon.

See ya in the next Sony seeth thread lmao

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Anyone who actually cares about good hardware already built a PC.

>aimed at serious players
>sony

I will never fucking give in to them. Ever.

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I'm not buying a ps5.

You too sportball playing dirtskin

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I agree. Only chance is Sony fucking themselves up at this point.

I wonder what they're basing that statement on because it doesn't appear to match most market research.

Sony is finished.

Every black person i know has ps4

You're right, PC does have a much larger audience for niche titles. But it also has a much larger audience period, and casuals make up the majority of it. Mainstream titles like Overwatch, Fortnite, Minecraft, League of Legends, etc. reach tens of millions of sales on PC. No matter how you slice it, casuals are the overwhelming majority on every major gaming platform.

>"niche product" when all mature themes are nuked from orbit if they're not feminist enough

Yeah good going Sony, massively narrowing the scope of expression people can make is really going to help there.

I wouldn't either, does Alienware see themselves as competing with Fisher-Price?

Fortnite and LoL are F2P m8.
Also
>Overwatch
>Fortnite
>reach tens of millions of sales on PC.
Overwatch maybe, but definitely not Fortnite, the PC version makes up less than 10% of all revenue since kids are the main market for the game and they mainly play on consoles.
The thing about PC is that for the non-F2P games, casuals are generally a much smaller market.
You'll never see something like Fifa, NBA 2K, CoD, or even BF topping the sales charts on PC nowadays, whereas on consoles they're pretty much the only game in town.

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"Niche" relative to the hundreds of millions of people playing mobileshit is what they mean
Not actually niche

That depends on how you define casual. Personally i dont consider stuff like Fifa and Call of duty to be casual, so consoles dont really have that many casual players

Maybe thats because every black person with aa switch kill themselves?

it is pretty god damn niche dude.
tell me which audience goes to core

madden/fifa
weeb core (persona, neptunia, yakuza)
indie titles
souls games
movie games (uncharted, mgs, spiderman)

Fifa and CoD are 100% casual games nowadays.
Especially Fifa.

>serious players
>controllers
>sub60fps

Are these nips fucking retarded?

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I guarantee that if you said that to the average person, they'd go on about executives have their jobs because they're so knowledgeable on what they do. How could you go through all those years of studying and be so stupid? Look at the Xbox division fom 2010-2013. These are supposed experts in their field. Yet the average gamer without all those years of study, could've told them the XB1 would flop.

Where the fuck is the disconnect here. Either their knowledge means nothing or these people are getting jobs based on connections, not merit.

Every incel I know has a switch.

Go play Cod or fifa, then play something like candy crush or other mobileshit and tell me they are in the same category

>Personally i dont consider stuff like Fifa and Call of duty to be casual
If you went up to the average person and asked them what Fifa or CoD was there's a 60-80% chance that they know what you're talking about.
You dumbfuck, the genre means nothing, they're both casual as fuck.
Tetris and Bejeweled are immensely harder than ANYTHING in Fifa/CoD at their highest level, but they're still casual games.

PC has different casual games than console, but it still has casual games. Generally people play a wider variety of games on PC, so no one game stands out as much as COD and fifa do on console, but there are still shit tons of casual PC players. The idea that PC gaming is the most "hardcore" platform is a myth.

Trannies really like the switch too

Okay. Done.
They're in the same category.

Not really, they're clearly referring to TLOU and God of War as single-player titles for older people.

Being some sort of gaming HBO doesn't work when you ban AO games because family friendly, and ban titties because you don't want to appear not mainstream. At that point you're just competing on the same level as three other platforms, that's not niche.

Sony genuinely good work as a platform selling itself as having all the artsy games that aren't solely products, but that will fail if it slavishly commits to restricting the artistic freedom of devs.

You win the Graphics War by going to PC. Correct. lmao @ these companies believing their loudest fanboys on the subject of power. They never learn.

Sure, but those casuals pretty much exclusively play F2P games, whereas the casuals on consoles actually dictate where the paid market goes since they only buy Fifa, CoD, and similar games.

the fact that they're still chasing muh graphics should clue you in that they don't know what the fuck audience they want

But that's true, you fucking retard.

>The PS4 wasn't an "upgrade". It's the first Playstation that wasn't.
Every new console from here on out will struggle to differentiate itself both from prior iterations and competitors. There was a clear advancement from PS1 to PS2 to PS3, and Xbox to 360. That was helped along by the mass market adoption of HDTVs. Now the hardware that is practical to implement in consoles has flatlined, graphically. They can improve the framerates which is something they should have been doing all along but the "realism" they bank on to sell titles is not going to dramatically improve.

Expect more superfluous non-game "features" to make up the difference and try to stand out. Just like TVs with their gimmicky bullshit like 3D or curves.

>Fuck the Wii for casualizing the entire world
Sweetie the PS2 exists

>Nintendo Co. isn’t perceived as a major rival, the person said, because its main users tend to be younger than PlayStation’s core demographic.
Then why are they giving the "think of the children" excuse for censoring stuff?

Source? PUBG, Minecraft, Overwatch, and CS:GO are absolutely massive on PC and all are paid games except CS:GO, and that only went f2p less than a year ago

>still pushing this myth

kys tendy

Because the pretense of protecting children lets you get away with doing literally whatever the fuck you want to.

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Just posting facts

Titties are mainstream and Sony doesn't ban them and never will. Anime titties are where they see a problem.

kys xcuck

“Casual” does not describe a genre, it describes a type of consumer. The people playing these games are not the same. People playing sportsball and Cod games are mostly the dudebro /fit/ type and those playing phone games are mostly women

OK, so I don't wanna read about any of you faggots talking about FagcetEra being degenerates. Loli-fapping is for pedos who just haven't made the jump to the harder shit yet. End of discussion.
>ohhh it's only pictures! It wouldn't turn me on IRL
lmao fuck outta here. If it wouldn't turn you on, you wouldn't fap to the fantasy. It's like some closeted fag jerking it to gay anime claiming he isn't really gay. It's denial.

Resetera had this convo about incest porn (which a LOT of them are into) recently. So many of those morons were in denial about it. Just like you fags. They used the exact same excuses.

>Wants the niche audience
>Censors niche games

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Yes the PS2 exists thats a fact.

PUBG isn't a casual game m8, are you insane? Matches regularly last upwards of 30 minutes in that game.
Neither is CSGO.
And Minecraft and Overwatch aren't anywhere near as big as they used to be.

Graphics and realism still have a long way to go (destructibility, animations, ray tracing, and AI come to mind) but with each successive step forward, the improvements tend to become smaller and less noticeable. Diminishing returns, so to speak. This is going to be a major deal that console companies have to contend with. They can only keep adding more pixels to the resolution for so long before normies stop being able to tell the difference. 4k is already borderline useless on smaller TV's, and 8k will be useless on anything short of a 80"+ mega screen

I'm too busy playing games.

No, a casual game describes the kind of game that does not have a particularly high time investment and can easily be picked up and dropped whenever without issue.
Most of these games are played by college kids, children, and women in their off time or while on the shitter/sitting around at work.

Match length isn't an indicator of a "casual" game. Next I assume you'll tell me League isn't a casual game because of the long matches and high skill ceiling. But the literal 100 million players say otherwise

it is niche they realized they cannot compete with the f2p games people throw money at so they decided to focus on just being a console for enthusiasts of games

they have always sorta been the goto for niche games (see the jrpg market)

but here's the problem
1. they seem to hate japaense games now, like they're embrassed to be japaense
and 2. they don't do much for 3rd parties in general. who typically make niche games

xbox never had games.

They dont need to ban western titties, there are no western titties because western game developers all have a s*oy addiction and a cuck fetish

Well everyone loves jumping to an immediate reaction instead of properly understanding what Sony is trying to do.

Sony will still be supporting indies and other smaller games, they're just putting more focus this time on AAA games and deals with 3rd party studios. As you mentioned the first few years of a new gen are important in getting early adopters on your console. No better way to do this than with AAA games and high end graphics

It's funny in hindsight because people said PS4's early lineup wasn't good since it had too many indies and not enough bigger games.

Good news, you're getting what you asked for.

I'm playing hundreds of games right now for $1 a month.
Now shoo and go watch your movies.

The difference is that the kind of person who'll play PUBG usually has a lot of bleedover with other games, which could be anything from CSGO to Arma 3 to Rising Storm 2 to Battlefield to DayZ.
The same cannot be said of the casuals who play Fifa/CoD/GTAO/Fortnite on consoles since those are usually the only games they actually play.

Like what?

>No better way to do this than with AAA games and high end graphics
Fuck you and your bigger but fewer games policies. This is absolutely not how you make a good console launch. Fuck off!

There are western titties in everything Rockstar or CDPR make. They have zero issues with those.

Whatever my bros on xbox live wanna play. We all own 100s of games that we can play together whenever we want.
What movies and sportball games are you playing?

The PS4 launch did not have an impressive AA line-up or anything of the sort. It was starved for games in general, be it AAA or AA.
The PS2 was almost completely carried by stellar AA games which was its bread and butter, and also contributed a ton towards its launch line-up.

>I'm playing hundreds of games right now for $1 a month.
you could play thousands of games for free on any smartphone

Sony gave people indies, yet everyone laughed them off. Now they're the bad guys for focusing exclusively on AAA and partnerships with major studios.

Sorry sweetie but only sonynigs play games made by nips/gooks.

Phone games are for weeabos, spics and gooks.

>theres only AAA and indies

You can play almost every game ever made, for free on the PC

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I'm having a really hard time understanding why anyone would choose to play GTAV, CoD, Rocket League and Minecraft on a console instead of PC

I never said I was into it, fictional things are fictional and censorship has never produced positive results. Stop acting like a soccer mom.

>a higher percentage of xbox owners are third worlders than ps4 owners
>tries to talk shit about competitor when there is literally more than double the console sales
You have a higher chance of talking to some shit head sand nigger than ps4 players do lmao

>Sony Positions Next PlayStation for Niche Audience
>Some executives at smaller game makers say they have felt snubbed by Sony, in contrast to Nintendo. At the Tokyo Game Show in September, Nintendo is supporting events to showcase independent game developers. Sony used to do the same, but isn’t planning to this year, the first Sony official said
What the fuck is this blatantly contradictory shit. Why does this fucking industry have to be this way.

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>Fuck the Wii for casualizing the entire world and saturating the market with normalfags and families.
You mean the PS1/2?

but it is niche but it is niche but it is niche but it is niche but it is nich user user

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>>a higher percentage of xbox owners are third worlders than ps4 owners
Nice head cannon.
>Admits that PS4 has higher sales
>somehow jumps to there being more xbox's outside of the first world countries than PS4s.
You're actually retarded

Kill yourself dirtskin.

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The bonus millions of people that bought Wii's for just the casual shit and not the core nintendo games didn't buy another console after that, there's a reason Just Dance keeps getting Wii releases even in 2019, because those people didn't move on.

Micropajeets have no sense of transparency. Isn't the boss a literal shitskin?

Well at least sony's better than MS. I don't trust (((western))) corporations anymore.

So is this the excuse to release an $800 dollar console?

probably 600

>>somehow jumps to there being more xbox's outside of the first world countries than PS4s.
You literally can't read can you?

actions have a cost, talk is cheap. They want you to fall for their next scam, someone needs to buy those PS5 censored games

Yeah you're actually retarded.

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xbox has always been a white mans console. i literally don't know a single white person who owns a playstation.

So we are now finally admitting 360 lost last gen? lmao how can a company be so shit

>VGShartz
Every single time.

>gets btfo
>b-b-b-but those numbers don't fit my headcannon!
Kill
Yourself

After censoring game they can fuck off.

WE'RE POSITIONING FOR THE NICHE GAMER AUDIENCE BY DRIVING DEVELOPERS OFF OUR PLATFORM AND ONLY PUSHING WESTERN DEVELOPED MOVIES
>this made sense in Timmy Tencent's head.
>oh wait it's not Tim Sweeney saying something fucking retarded and a bald-faced lie today

Whatever you say, Asher Madan.

>for hard core gamers
>focusing on big publishers
lel

statista.com/statistics/535213/game-console-brand-ownership-brazil/
>less than half the ps4 sales and nearly the same percentage sold in brazil as ps4
VGshit btfo everytime lmao

this
imagine defending a company who is actively trying to kill gaming like sony is. watch how next gen gta 6 is censored because there's female nudity. i'm avoiding sony like the plague from now on.

>niche consumers
>Graphics heavy
They going for a $700-999 console, won't they?
I find it likely because honestly we didnt have much of a leap in graphics /performance over the last 7 years. If they release a ps5 for 400 bucks thats just 15% better framerate, everyone will shit on it.

>vgchartz
kill yourself, idiot.

Playstation is now a California brand. They have a narrative to push. There is not a single fucking ideologically-flavored thing they say that anybody should believe now.

who cares, sony hasn't been good since kaz stepped down

sony was good until they started going full retard

>brazil=/=rest of world(non NA, EU, Japan)
Again, you're retarded.

>australia
>not first world
jesus keep trying idiot. Brazilians literally using your console for football

>Cater to niche gamers
>Censor niche games
>???
>profit

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...

And? They've been completely irrelevant since the moment they left Japan.

The ps5 is heading for a mess. It feels like Sony thinks the ps4 was so successful because of how they ran the product. In reality it was a massive success because they had zero competition. The Xbone had the online only debacle and was $100 more expensive. The Wii u was a total disaster. Sony was GIFTED this generation. They need a big selling point out of the gate to fight off stronger competition and I'm not seeing it.

>higher percentage of x1 owners are brazilians than ps4 for dedicated football machine

Not a single Fifa title in top played xbox games on Microsofts official site.
Kill yourself.
How many times can you be btfo.

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Can't remember the last time I saw strawberry clock posted. Aside from /f/ I guess.

>thinking Microsoft won't twist their store to show other games instead of all fifa
Keep coping lmao, I gave you the numbers stay salty

>this image is still full of holes, cherry picking and outright goal moving
ffs guys it isn't that hard to shit on sony.

PS4 = 18.5% shitskin.

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>$
Yeah no shit retard. I'll give you Madden not being there but of couse Fifa wouldn't be.

>being this gullible
they purposefully removed the comma to guarantee yall would give them free advertisement you troglodyte.

You're the only one coping. Two graphics with data and you linked a single website that's behind a paywall that says a single country has equal xbox1's and ps4's sold.
Cringe.

>povertyball

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Casuals have legitimately done less harm to gaming than midcore has. Casuals will eat up whatever you give them, midcore players keep ruining hardcore games by demanding it caters to their feelings of insecurity.

That's a higher percentage of whites than the US population or world population though

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Wasnt that PS4 just the console with a paint job?

Yeah, we should totally go back to the days of gamers being treated like trash geeks and outcasts of society. That was so much better.

what once was maybe the greatest gaming brand... hope we will see a boom in non s.0y indies making good old-like games

press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2018/11/21/the-ps4-has-been-australias-best-selling-console-for-five-years-running/
jesus fuck, vgcharts is literally picking straws and vague af. Misses out on a lot of data which only further proves sony's dominance in 1st world countries vs xbox's lower price and literally trash console given away in 3rd world shit holes.

That's the big boss of Sony talking to shareholders who only care about numbers and know jackshit about games. He says "niche" because even multi-million selling blockbusters are niche compared to mobileshit and big F2P games. It's not the same definition of "niche" you have. For those shareholders indies and weebshit might as well not exist.

>sony getting greedy again

can't wait for the tortanic 5 to come out

So you're saying all 17million of "rest of world" sales are from Australia?
K.

This all started when you claimed a higher percentage of players on xbox were third worlders than ps4 and you've done nothing to prove that, in fact every statistic points otherwise.
Fucking sportball playing dirtskin.

This whole thing reads like a list of entries into the contest for "Who is the most out of touch?" 7 contenders vying for the title.

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Yes. Obviously. Given you chartz proving my OG point. All you can provide is a useless site that excludes many countries that aren't shitstain 3rd world xbox lovers.

>hurrr durrr 16% of brazilians are x1 owners vs 21% of ps4
Seems like higher percentage of x1 owners are Brazilians to me. lmao btfo hard

18.5%

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cope lmao enjoy hanging with your brazilian bros you shitskin

Oof, you can tell the censorship is starting to rattle them, I'd like to clarify something as well. The "Playstation" brand did move to Cali BUT Sony as the leader of the brands is still in Japan if that makes sense?

Something tells me we're going to see a drop in censorship, quietly though as to not lose face.

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>seething this hard after getting btfo
Go watch a movie with your niggers on psn

enjoy your fifa while your wife cucks you with the shitskins lmao keeping coping

seethe

16% vs 21%
>thinks 16 is higher % than 21
Does your third world country offer mathematics you dirtskin?

>PlayStation aimed at serious players.
What?
>Nintendo Co. isn’t perceived as a major rival
What?
>Nintendo's main users tend to be younger than PlayStation’s core demographic
What?
>people buy a consoles to play graphics-heavy games
What?
>publishers want their games on multiple platforms to maximize sales but console makers look to make deals for exclusive content to corner the market
No shit?
>Some executives at smaller game makers say they have felt snubbed by Sony, who plan to do the same this year,
What?
>Sony still welcomes games from independent studios
What?
>Emphasis is on strengthening relationships with large publishers
What?
>people buy a console to play high-quality games available only on that platform
What?
>The next PlayStation will be capable of processing 8K ultra-high-definition graphics.
What? So is my Super Nintendo under the right circumstances. Context matters.

Christ what a load of horse shit. If I owned Sony stock, I'd be selling it off right about now.

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>buy a console to play graphics heavy games
>ignores the sheer amount of people who buy consoles for Pokemon games, i.e. the last two gens worth having garbage graphics and terrible framerate in Gen 6 at least
>snubbing smaller devs because they want fewer but larger titles, basically just sports, racing, and first/third person action titles (and moviegames but whatever)
I guess it's nice they're more focused on competing with Microsoft than Nintendo? I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread, I have no horse in this race and the only thing that's got any interest from me as a PS exclusive is Sakura Wars, which I'm still tentative on because of how much their core western division hates games like that now.
Back to handhelds and singleplayer-only PC games then.

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It's Japanese law that a Japanese company can not be bought out by someone or a corporate entity based in another country. Sony will always be Japanese. But there's a reason for hierarchy in the corporate world. 1 person does not have time to run everything, so they trust underlings to handle most things. Ones that were born and raised in California, for example.

>Sakura Wars, which I'm still tentative on because of how much their core western division hates games like that now.
I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually got a PC port considering how SEGA is.

>I have no horse in this race
Neither do I. Last console I bought was a PS2. But I find the whole thing interesting because there's lots of surprises. Like "What are this dumbfucks gonna do next?" ... This whole article, for example, sounds like the equivalent of a microwave manufacturer that got consumer feedback from people that only used ovens. You can tell the topic is correct, but all the details are in the wrong places.

>people want only good graphics
>fortnite is the most popular pleb game
>pubg still has a decent pleb following

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GTA is western, so it will get a pass. It's only Japanese games that are problematic.

Bigger studios will decline eventually, is better to invest on small studios that eventually could become big.

Epic games and Blizzard used to be small studios and look them now

yep, same shit happens on steam because of the 2 shiteaters censoring games there too. western games can do pretty much anything that isn't promoting red pilling while japanese games even without any nudity get banned, just due to artstyle or having a school setting or some other tranny social terrorist shit

Exactly, that guy buys high and sells low.

while i agree with your point, the 2 examples you used are retarded, especially blizzard. epic got big selling unreal licenses and blizzard hasn't been small since the late 90s

Sony will live SOLELY because Microsoft and Nintendo WILL keep shitting the bed.

nah. handhelds saved last generation for me. everything that was on the PS2, Xbox, PS1, N64 and GC got made for the PSP and DS. while consoles turned into NICE GRAPHICS FPS mememachine

Prepare to buy the Trilogy plus the upcoming new entry in the Nintendo Switch sometime soon.

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I sure hope so

I used to love Sony till the PS3, they're digging their own grave now.

Is PC gaming dead yet?

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Nothing the team the developed Danganronpa are PS fanboys. I'm not expecting them to move to the switch anytime soon unless there's a big Changeup with Spike Chunsoft. Also even if Spike Chunsoft developed games the west is gonna have censored games like YUNO for the switch.

So-called "hardcore gamers" are niche and always have been. You guys didn't make the Atari 2600, NES, or Wii successful. And the truth is that you didn't make the PS1 or PS2 successful either. You did turn the PS3 into a disappointment. And you turned stuff like the Gamecube into an outright failure.

The mainstream wanted the Wii. The mainstream wanted more games like Wii Sports that were equal in quality to Wii Sports and not zero-effort trash like "Imagine Babies" or whatever. But the industry didn't want to make Wii games and chose to pursue "hardcore gamers" instead despite the Wii selling WAY better and making infinitely more money. And now they're paying the price. Kids don't play video games anymore, having abandoned gaming for youtube and twitch. Hardware sales for the 8th gen are HALF of what they were for the 7th gen. DLC and other "microtransactions" are in part the result of this decision to make gasmes for hardcore gamers only. You guys spend the most money, which means you'll be the easiest to milk. And with costs of development going unreasonably high, they can't be profitable without exploiting you through borderline, or outright, illegal means.

Of course the alternative is that they could have just made games for the general public instead of just "gamers". But that would have meant that they'd have to stop making "movie games" and "story-driven games" and "sjw propaganda", which of course they were unwilling to do because the industry has been taken over by faggots that want to be filmmakers so desperately but have no talent for it so they go to the video game industry instead since no other industry would ever tolerate their shitty writing and shitty ideas.

>has even called the PlayStation a niche product, aimed at serious players
HAHAHAHA

>playstation
>aimed at serious players

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Sony stopped being good when the PS3 released.

>Fuck the Wii for casualizing the entire world and saturating the market with normalfags and families.
Sorry kiddo but that was the ps2.

>and chose to pursue "hardcore gamers"
The fuck are you talking about?

>niche product, aimed at serious players

bloodborne 2 exclusive confirmed?

Except movie games and story driven games aren't hardcore.

Lmao at all this seethe. Ps5 isn't even announced yet and people already spreading fud and damage controlling. And as usual, people will be crying about exclusives not coming to their platform.

They're what sell systems. You think anyone bought a PS4 for Cuphead or some random indie? No, they bought it for RD2 or Spiderman. Sony's just saying the obvious here, that no one is going to spend $400 on a game you can play on your phone you've had for three years or on a shitty laptop.

>You think anyone bought a PS4 for Cuphead
if they did they're retarded because cuphead isn't on ps4 and probably never will be.

This is a common rallying cry, but it's really just a coincidence. Fact is they let games with high potential sales through (or newcomers from big-name publishers and studios). It just so happens that most Japanese games are not big sellers in the west. Where as pretty much every AAA western game is guaranteed to make bank no matter how shit it is. Greed always trumps written policies.

I say this as someone whose job it is to analyze risk/reward scenarios in relation to public reaction. My job title is 'risk perception analyst'

>But the industry didn't want to make Wii game
Instead they chose to make games worse than wii sports that were even easier but lacked the variety padding out games with cinematics and repetitive open world gameplay. Not to mention the regular brown and bloom shooters at the time.

We haven't had an age where the target audience were the core since the n64.

>They're what sell systems
They do sell systems but they are hardcore games by any means, that's his point I think.

>serious players

So it will have M+KB support? Based

>aimed at serious players.
Since when?
Sony abandoned that market towards the end of the ps3 era.

>"we want the niche core audience"
>censors all your games

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Sony's fucked next gen.

An overwhelming majority of people see games like that as dumb filler.

because they're being treated differently today, right

>source: your ass

That overwhelming majority is also known as the casual audience which according to Sony isn't their audience.

The industry moved away from casual games because smartphones stole that audience. It was never a choice.

>we want this game to appeal to a niche audience
>should we think about what the niche audience wants?
>no, let's go off of the "overwhelming majority"
Well done

People who want to see the movie games aren't the people buying softcore porn anime VNs, user.

>Niche now means "just put in softcore porn"
I miss the old days when it actually meant a game that had a steep learning curve or was quirky. Now all people want is fapbait.

No one said they were.
Your reading comprehension is pretty bad.

>trying to appeal to core gamers
>Censoring sexiness in games
>Abandoning smaller development teams
The corporate boomers are so out of touch, this is the opposite of what the core market wants, this is what the casual market wants.

>I miss the old days when it actually meant a game that had a steep learning curve or was quirky
So you those "softcore porn" games are still niche games to you given that can be used to describe most of them.

>niche is a singular demographic rather than focusing on specific genres
Yes user, there is only one niche. There is no separate 2d fighter niche, shmup niche, vn niche, galge niche, fanservice rpg niche, nukige niche, etc. No, it's only softcore porn. The trick is to take the softcore porn out of the game, so that way you no longer appeal to your niche audience while also still not appealing about the mainstream audience who never actually gave a shit about the game in the first place.

user, a stray tit isn't even softcore. There is nothing at all pornographic about it.

Okay so they're niche games, but niche of a niche I guess. Games with a tiny audience. Also why deny that they're softcore porn? They very clearly are.

>serious PLAYERS
>players, not gamers
Oh, its not us, but those women, homosexuals and trannies larping as gamers.

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Come on user, you know what this is all about. This is the only reason Yea Forums even gets mad at Sony anymore, because they don't cater to the softcore porn niche. Also if a game is only interesting because of softcore porn it's a pretty fucking shitty game unless it's like, a dating simulator.

You're thinking of nintendo

>Gamecube into an outright failure.
No

>hardcore
>monster hunter world
ouch.

Nobody but you and the other obese virgins care about cartoon tits you ugly freak

Nah, Nintendo hasn't really changed audience at all hence why they're still making the same kinds of games.
Sony is bang on the money, you can see the huge difference in games released by them during the early ps3 days and late.

He obviously bought it two times.

Ahh, arrogant Sony is back. Like clockwork.

SNES and SEGA Genesis you mean

And yet you faggots continue to buy them. While the general public just wants GTA and Madden and CoD and Pokémon and Smash. All of which either have no story or people just ignore the story.

Post the archive, faggot. I'm not giving them any clicks.
archive.is/hplk5

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First of all, they aren't targeting niche core gamers, what they will do at least from what I got, is that they need to focus on differentiating themselves from their competitors, big time. Because right now, consoles are losing it's power or appeal, I would even say that it might be good for us if they went back to the philosophy of the '90s and make games again for people that use their brains. But this is contradictory because lately they have been having success with the s-o-y audience as seen with them having high sales with games like Goy of War and Red head bitch running through a Feminist jungle. Not to mention the obvious Californian influence that their developers seemingly have right now. And what's this deal with 8k when they don't even have 4K down to 60FPS. Don't they know that most people don't care nor give a fuck about 8K. Hell, most people don't even have 4K, TVs in general are not like the '90s.

DO A CONSOLE WAR SHITSHOW
IS SONY DONE?

Eh, I mean, they weren't actively gunning for the casual audience in the same way they are now.
Back then it was more "let's convert them into gamers so they buy our stuff" rather than "let's shovel out trash because that's what they like".

Core audiences have always been niche, this is already been researched, the amount of core gamers on Steam are something like 10%. These are the real gamers, per se, they are the ones that actually finishes games and leap from genre to genre, most other people are just casuals or meme fucks that don't really like video games.

>because they don't cater to the softcore porn niche
>wanting beauty standards in video games makes the game softcore porn
>every JRPG or Japanese game is softcore porn
Puri-tyrannical Americans, everyone.

this. But gen 6 was also good.

This is retarded, there has been no real old-school hardcore games except for games like Dark Souls, and some other here and there, and yet the Soul series has sold millions. COD still pull numbers, Goy of War and other Califaggot games still sell numbers, so what's your fucking point? Actual core games aren't being made, the audience is suffering a drought, what you mean to say, is that companies cannot profit maximize and continue to be in a perpetual growth, which is not something natural. So fuck them, poor faggot CEO couldn't get his fourth yacht this year. And like some other user said, most casuals are going the way of mobile.

Correct.

>Buying a console for graphics
el em ay oh

>there has been no real old-school hardcore games except for games like Dark Souls
You mean on console or just in general? Either way that's wrong in a lot of ways.

>most successful console of the generation
>niche

i love how marketing departments are just paid to lie

I probably didn't phrase this properly, my bad, but I did say in the following sentence that there were more here and there. I just mean in general it is not the rule for games to be developed like they were in the late '80s, '90's and early to mid 2000-05. I do know about old school development like Underrail, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, etc. But like I said, it is not the norm.

>tfw playing Magia Record on bluestacks on my PC.
>read this thread

A trip A game company suddenly switching to only phone games is a terrible idea. It'd destroy sony's influence over the gaming market, fuck up their revenue harder than they'd already fucked it up, and make them become irrelevant as fuck.

The best that they can do is open up a mobile game branch on gaming division to make mobile games and shit but putting most of the focus on Console games.

So I personally dont see the growth in companies accepting mobile as a viable platform as something scary because at the end of the day, most people dont want to buy a phone app. Most people dont want to buy the in-game items. Most people dont want to spend money on anything in a phone game unless they're attached to it in some way.

Basically, mobile doesnt bring in enough money to support large teams that most trip A-game companies are at.

Infact, I think blizzard will downsize again once they start releasing a lot more mobile games because of how little money they start getting from it.

>It'd destroy sony's influence over the gaming market
Not that they really have any, I mean, they sell a lot of systems but their ideas aren't being adopted.

they basically control 70% of weeaboo games, is the preferred platform for most shit trip A-game cinematic walk-a-thons, and is one of only three console platforms and is actively only competing against one of them.

The playstation platform itself is the influence.

You are so ignorant, and purposefully trying to manipulate the hardcore as being evil instead of simply being a necessary part of the videogame industry as much as casuals.
>You did turn the PS3 into a disappointment.
Hardcore gamers though abandoned the PS3 and chose the Wii instead though because of a shill shovelware developer named Malstrom.
>And you turned stuff like the Gamecube into an outright failure.
Nintendo already had the handheld market secure, they don't need to be greedy have have both the handheld and home console market, that is simply greedy.

>Of course the alternative is that they could have just made games for the general public instead of just "gamers".
Are you the legendary shovelware shill Malstrom himself? The Wii attempted to make games exclusively for the 'general public" and outright ignored the pleas of traditional core gamers to be appealed to, alongside casuals, they never wanted the industry to be exclusively for them.

You can't separate the casual or hardcore aspects from videogames, they are both necessary. You are evil and clearly have a hateful agenda for hardcore gamers even though they simply want to exist peacefully alongside casuals and not be genocided in favor of mainstream turbo-casualization. Quit putting words into the hardcores mouth, and stretching the truth to infinity to make them out as evil. The worst example of an evil hardcore videogame was Vanilla WoW which made the entire game for 0.0001% of the population, yet despite shitting on casuals was still a massive success(It pains my soul to this day, my faith in humanity was ruined by that game).

>and outright ignored the pleas of traditional coreb gamers to be apperaled to
Not him but no?
Nintendo themselves still just made the same games catering to the core that they usually would and even revived some series like Punch Out and added games like Xenoblade to their roster.
As terrible as the shovelware was it was the last system that gen that "abandoned" the core.

Nintendo literally said casual gamers are where the money is and core gamers no longer mattered to them.

>video game market is more profitable than both the film and music industry
>niche
This is unbelievable levels of cope

cant wait for 8k resolution censored images

>The playstation platform itself is the influence.
What you described isn't influence user, being influential means you incite change.
Which is something Sony in their 20+ years have yet to do.

Also they don't have as many weeb games as you think especially nowadays where most are leaving for mobiles, pc or switch.

Well, all I'm saying is, you can appeal to casual non-gamers without giving the core market the middle-finger, all I want is a compromise, I don't want to be sodomized and fucked in the ass by corporate casualization, but i don't want to screw over casuals either and make games unappealing to them.

This is disgusting, fuck these faggots. They're literally saying "we're too big to fail, you will make games for us anyway, cucks".
No way I'm buying the PS5 now, especially since it's going to be another $600 shitshow like PS3.

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Not that guy, but the sad truth is that as more generation come and pass, the more casualized shit gets. The reason for this and it's carefully manipulated is not to teach the new school how shit was done and to improve it. Instead, we have this weird artificial war created probably by corporations so the old and the new battle each other out. I learned this when I read about Art. How they were done in the past and why today art is shit, and you get shit like Calarts. This is the same reason most men today don't mentor other men and now don't mentor women, reading all those New York articles about men now not giving a fuck because of the metoo debacle. Corps get in there, cause war and confusion for them to probably dictate how the future of said industry should be pushed/handled. Most new school people already don't know about making good levels/map.

You're thinking of Sony.

Not with the Wii, because I came from the Gamecube and I felt that Nintendo didn't give a shit about me and many others too. The Wii in general was made for the core and Nintendo after the Gamecube have said time and time again that they are a family and kid friendly company. I still rock my Gamecube and it still has better games than most consoles today.

It's the same way they fucked over the AA audience despite the fact that that was what made the PS2 so good. What Sony is doing is strangling real core games so they can set an industry standard of Commiefornia games. Fuck them.

but you're missing something, user.
Sony has incited something.
They've incited censorship :)

>most are leaving for mobiles, pc, or switch
And thats a good thing. I still want persona 5 to get released on steam.

Also I have a sneaking question, do steam games actually sell that much? Do PC games actually make as much money as console games? More? less?

>because I came from the Gamecube and I felt that Nintendo didn't give a shit about me
Again that's because you're judging it by the third party shovelware rather than the first party titles which were a significant improvement over the titles on GC in many ways.

Nintenchildren throwing a riot over some clickbait.

Like clockwork.

Wait a minute. Does that mean Sony is based?

>Sony has incited something.
>They've incited censorship
You don't know what these words mean do you.

Why would they be throwing a riot?

pls answer my other question as well.

also
Ye sony doesnt do much shit in terms of creating trends or inciting things.

>Also I have a sneaking question, do steam games actually sell that much? Do PC games actually make as much money as console games? More? less?
It depends, there are statistics out there that say that games do sell better over time. While other say that to make money fast, most games earn a faster revenue on console but die quicker. I believe the developer of The Witcher 3 said something similar.

Can't answer that because I know next to nothing about pc audiences. But I imagine they would have a lower threshold for profit.

>Sony will quit the console market in your lifetime

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The replies in that website are pure graphic whore, and this coming from a pc gamer with the latest build but even I know this is not enough.

I would say you are partly right, but I still felt the Gamecube had more of a core audience. I don't know if it was actually marketed that way or what, but the image of the whole console, it's aesthetics, etc, made it that way despite the fact that some people thought the system looked like a lunchbox. Just the same way as how it's on peoples mind that the OG Xbox is an FPS heaven with no other games, when it does have it's fair of alright games like Fable, Panzer Dragoon, etc.

Seething

I appreciate your responses, anons.

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Not him but what do you think core audience refers to?

>ctrl-f "fornia"
>6 hits
Talk about rent-free

6 posts in a 400+ thread counts as obsessed to you?

A small group of people/niche that actually employs time and resources towards playing core games. Core games are games that require, intelligence, wit, time, reflex, analysis, logic to finish a game.

Honestly, people should be fighting for developers to make more of these types of games instead of the whole console war debacle bullshit that ends up hurting us all. Who cares about a Sony vs Nintendo, actually demand good games. Why do people care so much about these corporations that want nothing more than to get the last cent on your wallet.

Hello, remember me? I am the graph with much explanatory power.

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I can't wait for the Xbox Scarlett and Nintendo Switch to get all of their games, what idiots.

They have to do it. The console industry is in bed with the television industry, and the TV industry desperately needs a new standard that a minority of people have already reached, so that they have something to sell. Now that everyone in their mother has a nice big screen 1080p television, they need something new and exciting.

I can't wait, they need to go.

>A small group of people/niche that actually employs time and resources towards playing core games
That's about half of it. And core games as you described them aren't really a thing.

8k (4k checkboard) @24fps gaming

>And core games as you described them aren't really a thing.
Yes they are.

>niche
$599USD

>not preferring cinematic 24fps to inferior cartoony 60fps

No they aren't. After all games like SMB3 and Super Metroid are considered core games but aren't any of those.

I'll go back to my original statement in what it's defined to be core games. If those games do not feature what I mentioned, then it cannot be considered core games, despite the fact that people misjudge what they mean or attribute such meaning to work they do not know how to analyse or judge doesn't matter.

Roastie roastie, oh so toastie

>If those games do not feature what I mentioned, then it cannot be considered core games
It's more that you have no idea what determines a core game.

fpbp

>Core games are games that require, intelligence, wit, time, reflex, analysis, logic to finish a game.
Dude, using that definition you could say that some absolutely abhorrent or outright broken games could be considered core games.

what a retardedly misinformed post this is, gaming pre 2005 was hardcore by today's standards no matter what you'd play it literally isn't even comparable and no amount of juggling around semantics is ever going to change that

What is it about SONY that causes Yea Forums to boil over with impotent rage?

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>The thinking is, the official said, that people buy a console to play high-quality games available only on that platform, not smaller games also available on smartphones.

Yeah, Nintendo. Read this and adapt. Bought a Switch to play real games in portable, not shovelware minigame trash.

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>And yet you faggots continue to buy them.
nigger who said that Yea Forums literally constantly shits on them it just doesn't matter as the previous "hardcore" audience is now dwarfed by the casual audience and no amount of voting with your wallet will ever work

funny how only two of those are exclusive now

i think every console gamer wants to hear their console is for niche interests since that usually means they'll be less shovelware and niche game interests, but given how ps4 has been going I find that a really hard pill to swallow.

Momentum is going to swing back to the Xbox next generation, it's the inevitable pattern of the industry

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Their fanboys don't like discussion that isn't 100% positive so they burst out in rage.

>their console is for niche interests since that usually means they'll be less shovelware
Tell that to the vita.

Hmm, I will disagree with that statement, and continue to say that I do indeed know what they are.

When you say broken do you mean mechanically?
What you say abhorrent you have to give a better more detailed explanation.

I hope not, Xbox is garbage and just more of the same. The problem will still persist.

nice headcanon.

So, Apple?

literally how much easier and more dumbed down can they even make video games at some point this shit is just going to be a literal qte with two minutes time to press the right button

This

There's an argument to be made that literally a third of all PS4 sales were solely due FIFA, and that the early FIFA sales were used as a marketing gimmick to tell people "hey look we sold 10m more consoles than MS lol with us or against us"

Like I don't think it's even remotely unfair to say that the PS4 sold roughly 60m of their units just because Europe wanted to play FIFA.

>INFINITE PROFIT ABANDON OLD AUDIENCE APPEAL TO BIGGER AUDIENCE INCREASE PROFIT
the stockmarket corrupts all

what exactly is the issue here?

>The thinking is, the official said, that people buy a console to play high-quality games available only on that platform, not smaller games also available on smartphones
So.. censorship, fuck indies, more generic AAA shit and fewer games? I didn't think the PS5 could be worse than the PS4 but they managed to do it

all the shitposting really makes sense this gen, they're literal subhumans

>When you say broken do you mean mechanically
You don't talk to people about games very often do you. But yeah, broken or poorly thought out games can take a lot of time, effort, analysis etc from a player.
Just look at sonic 06 for example.

>people actually play console minecraft

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here's a question bud, why the fuck do you want censorship? really? does the sight of a human body cause so much pain and discomfort that you can't stand to look at it, so you're happy when the big brother corporation decides to censor something? The biggest question on my mind is why would you want a limitation? A silly one to you it may seem, but why even have the limitation in the first place? Why not just have the option to include or not include nudity in your game? Why would you one a part of freedom of expression taken away from you? Why would you want a freedom stripped?
There is no justification for censorship at all. It hurts the consumer, the hurts the artist (inb4 hurr durr videogames are not art, that may be true in your eyes, but you cannot deny that video games incorporate aspects of art), and only helps publishers get more fuckin money because they're platform is more pc.
I don't care if you call me a fuckin sperg, I just needed to get this shit off my chest, damn

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Kek look at that defense force go

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casuals are genuinely dumb and cannot discriminate specs or build a pc

Fucking hell its basically over for pc cucks, the ps5 gonna be an absolute powerhouse sold at a massive loss from all the profits ps4 brought in.

Theres gonna be no pc gaming in 8 years. Valve will go bankrupt and invidia will shift its business into making mobile integrated graphics.

Sony's gonna go full PS3 next generation and it's going to be a shitshow

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>that people buy a console to play high-quality games available only on that platform, not smaller games also available on smartphones.
Then why the fuck don't they have any good exclusives?

It's not that bad if you want something chill to do in your spare time.
Just don't play online or use split screen.

Well that's just a game that's fundamentally outright badly developed. And no, you still have to give a better definition of what you mean when you say broken, it can be interpreted in two way, most of the people I talk to always describes what's broken in a game. You're the one wrong here.

>it can be interpreted in two way
And what's the second?

This

SMT and EO in Switch soon baby.
Worst company ever. Or at least when they shelved their Vita. It all went downhill from there.

>people buy a console to play high-quality games available only on that platform
Too bad the PS4 had only 1 (one) of these

this is the funniest shit ever, can't wait for the video game crash for sony

Mechanical. An overpowered character, build, etc. Come on, man. When people say broken they say broken and ..... glitches everywhere, invisible walls, etc, or broken this game has this boss that's retardedly broken, his hits passes through walls, has target locking, etc. They give context. You definitely haven't been playing games for long.

>Huffington Post

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They just say their shit is for hardcore gamers because kids eat that shit up since they don't want to look uncool, but in reality PS appeals to normal faggots that buy sport games.

>An overpowered character, build, etc
Context just doesn't exist for you does it. A broken build and a broken game are two entirely different things and in this conversation broken can be interpreted in only one way.

Looks like you're in the wrong here.

>That last paragraph in the second tweet

Wow, yeah ok, as a former Sony fan I'm definitely done.

>They give context. You definitely haven't been playing games for long.
Do you even read the posts people give you?
There's absolutely no way anyone could misunderstand what broken means in the context of your conversation.
For one a broken build makes a game EASIER removing everything you said a "core game" needs.
Two, you're not even talking about games with builds. I mean that's one of the single most famous example of a broken game and you still couldn't get it?
Jeez and you're saying he hasn't played games for long, talk about irony.

>because its main users tend to be younger than PlayStation’s core demographic.
Arent more kiddies on PlayStation nowadays?

ps5 will be 'best gfx evar' niche iphone box
ps4 will be the main money maker

Yep.
Also where the biggest Fortnite audience is.

They also used their younger audience as an excuse to not have crossplay for it incidentally.

>whine that normies like video games now
>claim that things are no different than the used to be
I don't think you're old enough to know what things were like before, little buddy.

Part 1 for you brainlets.

Stop and read, stop letting your dumb ego blind you to win the argument. Read again what I've said, slowly, and develop your brain on two ways an interpretation of broken can be applied to a game. I gave you two obvious ones, when I mentioned boss. If you cannot come to terms with such an obvious conclusion, then you are lost.

You have mumbled the entire debate in to different points and interchanged them while losing the original argument.

Let me brake it down for you since you are obviously having problem keeping along.

1. There is two ways a game can be interpreted when people say the game is broken without further definition. I'll give you the answers.

Answers: Mechanically, meaning the game has a broken boss, build, etc.

or

2. Design wise. Meaning the game was badly coded and/or not optimized. Meaning, the game has glitches, invisible walls, bugs, etc.

When most people say that a game is broken, they usually follow up with either of those two definition to further inform the listener to what they mean. Period.

Part 2.

>For one a broken build makes a game EASIER removing everything you said a "core game" needs.
It doesn't invalidate that the game can still be a core game. And the build still needed to be found out and refined, thus people had to spend time, resources, use in-game mechanical knowledge, etc. Are you still following along? Are you capable of still following along? Remove your emotions from the argument and stop being butthurt that the definition of core games might not apply to a favorite game that you might like. It's ok, you can still like casual games.

If people like you are in charge of Sony, they're going to have a hard time appealing to their target audience.

>brake
That's break. Brake is the thing you use when to stop a car.

>There is two ways a game can be interpreted when people say the game is broken
Let me stop here, when people are talking about a broken GAME there's only one way to interpret that, that the game isn't built correctly, is glitch etc.
Broken builds on the other hand is a little more specific and doesn't mean that the game is broken in the same sense.

Basically you're retarded. Learn to read next time before going on a rant that further exposes your ignorance.

You're wrong. I've already explained to you what it means. If you are not capable of understanding, then you're lost.

Oi, you shouldn't draw attention to such things. Just ignore it - like (((mysterious))) happenings in Broward County.

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>Sony Chief Executive Kenichiro Yoshida has even called the PlayStation a niche product, aimed at serious players.
this makes it sound like its going to be really fucking expensive. its for a niche audience because its gonna be 1000 fucking dollars or some shit.

>When most people say that a game is broken, they usually follow up with either of those two definition
What?
No they don't, the context is more than enough to go on. Hell the order you place the words and an ing are more than enough.
A broken game is a game that's poorly made, no arguments about that.
A game you can break or breakING a game refers to a game which may or may not be competently made that has a method of play that trivialises a game making it easy to breeze through.

If you have a basic understanding of English then there's no way to should be getting that mixed up.

Sorry dude but you're on the wrong end here.

The playstation 4 has a worldwide install base of 84 million. Out of a global political of 7 billion that's pretty niche. Now consider most of those 84 million only use the ps4 as a FIFA machine then it gets even more niche.

Honestly, I don't think I am, considering the fact that most of the people that I do talk with do continue on to give context. Could either be the state of where I'm from but I don't think it's the case. Either way, I'll continue on with my definition.

>I've already explained to you what it means.
Pretty sure what you just did is show everyone that you can't into English and are some kind of ESL poster from a shithole country.
I mean dude, you couldn't even keep track of a simple reply chain and its context and needed it to be explained to you even though there was only one possible way to interpret it.

>What is PS2
DVD player
Singstar
Enough said

Cool.

4 THE PLAYERS AMIRITE SON(Y)GGERS?

>considering the fact that most of the people that I do talk with do continue on to give context.
That's probably because they're accommodating for you. I mean, if you're asking for further elaboration on a regular basis then you might just be a little slow and they picked up on it.

$800

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>That's probably because they're accommodating for you. I mean, if you're asking for further elaboration on a regular basis then you might just be a little slow and they picked up on it.
That isn't the case. They give further information on the context of broken on their own, pretty much everyone do. I am certain that those two are retarded or never been gaming for long.

>Sony offloads PS to commiefornia
>Makes the next PS a flop so all this commiefornia fags lose their jobs.
Based nips.

>Serious players
>Shitty dyke movies
>"Serious gamers"

Families and casuals are far better than retarded cinematic SJW games. At least mario kart can be fun for a few minutes.

>pretty much everyone do.
I can assure you that it's not a common thing to see everyone explain the context. Usually that's something someone would pick up without prolonged thought.

I mean go make a thread along the lines of "post broken games" and see what you get.

Alright, I'll take note of that. For now, I'll continue with what I and everyone else is doing.