Do you expect Zelda to be a persistent companion or at least constant presence in Breath of the Wild 2?

Zelda rapes Ganondorf while Link is forced to watch and eventually Ganondorf gives in to the pleasure?

More cynically, giving her a new haircut is fanartist opioid and gives the game a shitload of free exposure in spite of as of last E3 just being a concept on a piece of paper to be trotted out for shareholders, a cinematic debut trailer, and a few scant interviews. Truly the Keanu Reeves of vidya related charm offensives.

I know. I'm just being pessimistic.

yes

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>The former, simply because the haircut just screams "easy clipping work-around" to me
2020, interview with the lead character designer
>Yeah we designed Zelda that way because she was way cuter with short hair. There was a lot of debate online if she was playable and we all laughed

I don't want Link following Zelda. I want him to go back to Paya.

i get the feeling you will be able to swap between both at any point in the game

paya is a slut

I want her to be playable and have a different set of skills and moves than Link.
Link could climb and fight, and Zelda could do all the puzzles, or use some special powers.

i would imagine zelda would be more magic attacks oriented SHE CANNOT EVER USE SWORDS

I hope she gets taken because I hate her.

For link.

word of advice if you ever meet a woman who is a slut for you you are not the only guy she is a slut for so be ready for that

She's gonna be gone most of the game like every other Zelda.

you mean to type
"she gon be gone like all link games"

I hope she's playable. But I want to play as Link too if his hand gives him new powers.
At the same time I don't want dumb "swap characters to solve puzzles" mechanics, where the other character follows you around forever. I want to explore the world alone

no hookshot??????????????

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>She's gonna be gone most of the game like almost every other Zelda.
ftfy

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I want her to always be there, but then I think about how they could actually do that with BotW Hyrule's environment. Would you have to help her up a cliff? Would you just have to leave her? Would she just teleport after you like Wolf Link?

Even more concerning if she would be a sometimes controllable partner. Not the first time that Zelda has done so, but it can get annoying.

Maybe she just backpacks on Link's back. Or maybe Farore's Wind that bitch.

You've all got it in my head now that she'll be playable and I'll be disappointed if (read: when) she isn't. I guess having her follow me around would be ok as long as she didn't hold you back.

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>botw2 is open world ico

>Farore's Wind
No powers, remember. I would expect her using the Slate if anything, so figuring out how to teleport to Link's position wouldn't be too far out there with some new device that Purah and Robbie cooked up together. It seems obvious that they want Link's new power to be this hand thing, so keeping the Slate around would be a bit odd.

>No powers, remember
Did you not play the game?
But yes, thematically they'd be more likely to have her warp with the slate.

I 100% expect her to be a damsel that gets taken out in the intro.
It's honestly hilarious how many people are assuming she'll be a companion or outright playable just because she has short hair, it's like you faggots like being disappointed.

Yes, I did. Let's quote it, shall we?

>I suppose it would make sense if my power had dwindled over the past 100 years

If she does have anything, it's going to be a shadow of it's former self. She can't even hear Fi anymore. So I doubt that she can even do basic spells. Maybe part of the plot will be about restoring it?

First look at BotW, we saw Link in his new blue getup - an unfamiliar new design we'd never seen before. That was to telegraph something about the game that would be revealed later, to plant the seeds of a certain idea in peoples' heads - it was to hint at the new armor system, and more generally, that BotW would be a whole new paradigm that threw out old tropes and assumptions about the series, starting with Link's fixed green tunic.

First look at BotW2, we see a trailer with the majority of the focus on Zelda, who has a new appearance is in a role we almost never see her in, adventuring and exploring. I think it's pretty likely that this first look is also designed to plant ideas about incoming changes. That's the REAL reason to think Zelda is going to be playable or have a greatly expanded role - the short hair making clipping less of an issue is just a minor detail that happens to conveniently fit neatly with that idea. People just latch onto it because the trailer was cut to put the seed of the idea into people's minds, and then they searched post-hoc for a seemingly-more-convincing reason to think it than just "the trailer kinda gave me that impression".

Sjws would lose their shit if she was a companion without some don’t need no man moments which is a lose lose for Nintendo.

You're reading a lot into a cinematic trailer with zero gameplay, or even a simulation of gameplay.
I would argue the majority of the focus is actually on Ganondorf and the ghost hand.

only thing i dont like about BOTW i0s you cant e even get the green tunic without going threw a ton of bullshit

>Link's gonna get his green tunic after the prologue and wear it most of the game, just like every other Zelda

Considering she was straight up nuking guardians and was able to at least somewhat restrain Ganon the second she was able to tap into it, being able to throw basic fireballs or little light ball sparks at Level 1(or just starting out) to take out a bokoblin in a few hits seems reasonable.
Same as Link in his prime able to go full musou on shit like lynels and whole hordes of Ganon's forces and the crux of the whole game and the eventual DLC is going through trials to build his strength back up and tap into the Master Sword's true potential.

>best Zeldas are tanned pirate zelda, ghost zelda and villager zelda
So much for "princess"

Don't get mad at Nintendo when your overactive imagination betrays you.

You could have said the same thing about the first we saw of BotW1. And yet it WAS designed exactly that way. Why think the sequel's teaser would be any different? Did they fire everyone who understood how to use cinematic technique to suggest gameplay concepts in the mean time?

I wish the tunic was Links starting outfit for 2 but eh, I'll just cheat to get it early like I did with the first game.

>do the 120 shrines to unlock the set of the wild outfit, thr ultimate award in this game sans DLC
>sequel ignores this and just gives Link a generic outfit
WHY?
>INB4 the set of the wild is shit
No, it's perfect for this Link.

Unlike most of you faggots I was actually here for Zelda U's announcement.
Most of the speculation wasn't over Link's tunic, it was.
>OMG LINK IS SO ANDROGYNOUS
>MAYBE LINK IS ACTUALLY A GIRL YOU GUYS!!!!

how do you cheat to get it early?

So Ganondorf is likely trapped because him reincarnating was far worse than dealing with his calamity version right? Maybe the hand, being whatever it is was sapping his strength?

Cemu

Now THAT, would be interesting. The whole power down situation just an excuse to have Zelda not flat out nuking everything in this game, should she be playable. Instead having a system more inspired by Smash with her magic. It could even give reason for Link and Zelda to have seperate objectives. Link has to do things to figure out the Hand and what to do about that. While Zelda has to explore ruins and slowly get her powers back from artifacts left by the Goddess and prayer at various points on the overworld. This should immediately draw people back to the Springs, but there are other places of spiritual significance, like the Lord of the Mountain.

If Zelda is playable, I hope her gameplay cycle works with archeological stuff. They should play up the whole Wisdom angle.

And then they got mad when Nintendo "lied" and none of those things happened.

Set of the wild is shit though. It's got drab coloring and the shorts aren't flattering. It's a fun novelty but the Champion's tunic is way better looking.

You're confusing Yea Forums with the internet at large. That was places like Kotaku kicking up a furore and Yea Forums eating it up because they love being outraged about Kotaku. There was plenty of actual speculation on Twitter and other Zelda fansites, where the reaction to the whole fuss was a mixture of "oh, sounds neat" or "eh, that's stupid" before moving on to other topics.

> you cant e even get the green tunic
Just dye the Hylian tunic green. The real bullshit is that there isn't a good hat workaround.

Tunic of the Wild is awesome, but I think they're trying to ride off of the champion tunic popularity.

The real challenge for a magic-using Zelda will be how to make it more interesting than "it's a bow but instead of an arrow it's an element ball" and "magic spell that would've just been an item in a previous Zelda game"

That seems the likely situation. The Calamity had a schedule, even if it was a long one. It meant that Hyrule could have many more years of peace and then had to deal with a big threat that they could just blast with their advanced tech. Rather then the possibility of Ganon coming back every 2 decades, either in the form of a Gerudo or a Beast and surprising the shit out of everyone.

Hylian Hood is better anyway

god damn I'm so glad I'm white

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Paya lost before she was even born

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It's hard to really work around this issue, since it's all based around functions anyway. Funny enough, it goes back to the whole thing about magic and tech just being similar anyway. There is nothing that magic can't do that sufficiently advanced tech can't also do. We even see this with the Slate. That shit isn't magic, it's technology.

So it really doesn't matter if Zelda uses magic on her own, or has the Slate with new runes, both would function the same and would ultimately feel like a supplement for Link's gameplay. You just aren't really going to get around this issue.

The only thing that needs to be done, is just make sure it's at least a fun gameplay cycle and in character for Zelda. Something that fits her niche and not just shoving her into Link's shit as some kind of partner character that casts a spell to support you, or some cumbersome switching mechanic, or even two player mode.

>It's got drab coloring
I think it's the perfect color to make Link more visible when he's around the brighter green areas. Plus, it contrast perfectly with the brown shirt and shorts and Link's more saturated hair and skin colors.
>the shorts aren't flattering
They are perfect for the adventurer young man/boy look that the set was designed for. I like them actually.
Besides, all the best Links in the series weared shorts

Zelda will be captured by Ganondorf but link will be traveling the lands with a resurrected Mipha

Don't make me cry ;-;

There's not much point in a hookshot when you can climb pretty much every surface and glide everywhere.

Just let it go, user. Mipha has been sleeping with the fishes for more than 100 years.

>I would argue the majority of the focus is actually on Ganondorf and the ghost hand.

Ganondorf, sure, but he's the big new villain. It's pretty obvious what that's trying to tell us, ie. "Whoa, it's Ganondorf, ain't he scary?". And the ghost hand, really? It was certainly a key detail, but in terms of focus, it only acted in two blink-and-you-miss-it cuts.

But between Zelda and Link:

>the exploration is bookended with solo shots of Zelda - the first shot is especially important and memorable, as it was the first clear "holy shit, it really IS BotW!" moment of the reveal, and it was of Zelda, not Link
>the hairstyle. Yeah, muh clipping, but I'm sure Nintendo also knew that its reveal would make Zelda's new look and role a major fanbase talking point the moment it was revealed, just like "why doesn't he have his tunic this time?" did for the first game
>the first clear shot of them together was them both in equal prominence with a recognizable third-person over-the-shoulder camera angle, which instantly brings playability to mind because it's the kind of angle you'd be controlling one of them from
>Link never has prominence in any shot together - they're either framed equally or with Zelda as the main focus
>multiple instances of them assisting each other on the adventure - collecting water, driving the ox, and Link pulling Zelda up, which brings cooperative play to mind

I'm not saying that this is some kind of ironclad proof. It could be nothing. It could be intentional, but mean something different - it did with all of the "Different character! Girl Link!" talk last time, after all. But the point is that Nintendo loves to have little nods that tease in the general direction of new ideas and mechanics, and if I WAS trying to design a trailer that planted a few "could Zelda be playable / more relevant / a partner / a co-op character!?" seeds in my audience's minds for later, I'd probably try to create something very like the reveal we saw at E3.

What a slut

Dammit, Snake! Vanilla is best, now get back to the mission!

Hopefully the second. I hate escort missions/tethered characters. Throw that shit into the fire.

Why is everything anime so featureless? That face could be anyones with just palatte swapped hair

>he doesn't want Legend of Rico Rodriguez: Breath of the Chaos
pleb

I don't think a pure spellcaster would work. It still needs to feel like a Zelda game, no matter who you play as, and weapon loot needs to matter for both of them as well. I don't want any "I wanna be Player 1!" "No, I wanna be Player 1" arguments if they can be helped.

I'm seeing it much more likely that they'd be equivalent in the broad strokes of gameplay, but distinguished with more minor flourishes. Most weapons are universal, but only Link can use heavy two-handed weapons properly while only Zelda can use magical implements. Link gets the Master Sword as his special weapon, while Zelda gets the Bow of Light. Link Flurry Rushes when he dodges an attack, while Zelda has some kind of magic-based counterattack - I'm picturing a burst of light that stuns nearby enemies, for the same basic gameplay effect of "you get some free hits" but with a magical rather than martial flourish. Hell, give Link a whole array of new sword moves, TP-style, with Zelda tracking down magical combat techniques instead. To my mind, that's the compromise that keeps them both feeling like themselves but the gameplay still feeling like a Zelda game.

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Nah, the eyebrows are pretty distinctive.
Not everything has to be photorealistic.

Zelda most certainly won't get captured, that would be beyond stupid.
>wait 100 years to be rescued
>get captured immediately again
Also Mipha is ded bro.

fuck zelda
fuck paya
Mipha was true best girl. She was gonna propose and everything ...

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Mipha brings great shame to the mighty Zora race

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Do you think Zelda can go shirtless if she's playable? haha

I want vaginal Zora slime in my foreskin
I'll take the ban

Look at the positive side, thanks to her sacrifice Link and Zelda can now travel across hyrule as a lovey dovey couple and have fun everyday!

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Nintendo's been pretty comfortable with its teen Pokemon MCs wearing midriff baring outfits, as well as various girls in swimsuits, and Mario Odyssey featured Peach in a bikini.

Obviously not going topless but I wouldn't put it past them for a playable Zelda to have athletic swimwear as an "armorless" option.

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Sports bra and spats. the best outcome

Hopefully a constant companion that you can abuse

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>less stamina
>less hp
>takes double dmg
>does half dmg
>added start up and end leg on all animations
>no access to heavy weapons
>can only collect fruit. No bugs or critters.
>cooking gives bonus boosts
Only way I'd accept Zelda being playable is as a stupid hard mode

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how so? Ruto was worst girl though

its not fair man. i hope we get more ghost mipha in botw 2

Correct answer

It could be like Resident Evil 1, only that you can switch characters during the game instead of just the beginning.

That's even less likely than her being playable. They aren't about to go through all the legwork of creating a second playable character solely for the sake of making the "girls suck" crowd feel good about themselves.

I hope she finds a nice non-Link boyfriend in BotW2

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So what's the explanation going to be for Link turning into a 3 heart weakling again?

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They'd want to go for a more realistic approach, no?

Is Botw any better after learning advanced combat techniques?

Kilton would be such a good match for her!

>>can only collect fruit. No bugs or critters
CUTE

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No explanation required, he never had to get any heart containers

Maybe whatever wacky shit goes on with his hand is basically the injury equivalent of "you died and we threw you in the respawn chamber for a century."

Like instead of OoT to MM, or WW to PH just arbitrarily kicking a Link with all his shit down to 3 again, you do the little tutorial/starting bit with a full power Link and just trying to survive Ganon voodoo drains him down to three.

But he has the master sword!

He's separated from Zelda at the beginning, and you go through the not-Great-Plaza as Zelda. That kills two birds with one stone - it makes sense that Zelda can adventure because she's literally forced to do so and only reunites with Link once she's picked up some of the basics of taking care of herself, and by the time you can control Link, you've collected several heart containers and some gear and it's less jarring of a transition than it would be if he started out with nothing. Throw in some throwaway "Ganondorf siphoned your power to resurrect!" line after that and you're golden.

Which has zero to with your idiotic post.

It'd be like in dbz where every time the characters are spending time with their families or getting into relationships they get weaker and when they're being loners they get stronger

>Can't even put together a proper sentence
>Calls anyone else's post idiotic

He uh must have got them then used the statue to rebuild all into stamina

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Mipha will be back using sheikah technology

It broke and became unusable until late game

Do you really want her to see THIS?

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I suspect Mipha knew she was fighting a losing battle even when she was still alive, that's probably why she didn't give Link the armor

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people are reading way too hard into a character development haircut

wait a minute that stance...

Haircuts aren't character development.

she picked up that frog fine.

Why does she have to suffer so much? Getting ntr'd by Zelda is already enough, did she really have to die too?

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Yeah, BotW Zelda is clearly not the type of girl to be disturbed by bugs and shit

But it would be funny if she was afraid of mice like ST Zelda

Not to mention her dad put her private diary on display for anyone to read

Fi finally got word that people hated her game, so she's going on strike.

Dr. Zelda, I'm Hero of Hyrule.

>Dr. Ganon, I'm Triforce

god damn it

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Link should kill demise and hylia then break the master sword, fuck gods and fuck destiny.

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>die
>family makes sure your entire species knows you had a Hylian fetish

You have to get the hearts to prove your worthy of the sword. Killing Calamity Ganon without it probably counts the same.

Some crazy magic happens that weakens him, but as he learns to harness it, he learns new abilities similar to Sheikah runes.

He still has the Sheikah slate and all the runes at the start of the game

She's going to be imprisoned/incapacitated/otherwise taken out of the picture ten minutes in and you all fucking know it. Japs HATE female protags unless they're walking fanservice farms (see: 2B) and Nintendo knows making Zelda playable will hurt sales in Japan, their primary market.

Zelda has the sheikah slate, Link's ghost arm will let him use the slate abilities too

>unless they're walking fanservice farms
I mean this is the hottest Princess Zelda yet...

Was BotW your first Zelda game? They never had to offer an explanation in direct sequels before.

nah that would invalidate all of BotW
not saying she'll be playable but if she gets captured that will be a big yikes

Please add spooky crypt dungeons Aonuma.

We need more indoor areas in general

Is it normal to absolutely DESPISE the opening segment of the Champion's Ballad quest? The part where you pick up the OHKO sword and die in one hit to everything? It's fucking obnoxious. Especially the shrines that are designed with environmental traps everywhere that wouldn't be a big deal if you had full HP since they would only take a quarter heart at most but turn everything into a fucking minefield. Or that the combat encounters are full of faggots with shock arrows and other huge AOE-causing attacks. FUCK that quest holy shit.

Also fighting Waterblight Ganon with just Mipha's shitty spear and 10 arrows is absolute aids.

Get the Sheikah bow with the long zoom and the flat trajectory, then spam the everloving shit out of those bomb arrows you've been hoarding. That's what I did.

>then break the master sword

It regenerates itself

But I need those bomb arrows for Hyrule Castle

Can't wait for some bizarre speedrun strategy involving using sheikah magnet to push her npc ass ro move faster.

I hope she is fully playable and the two are interchangeable. I also want Zelda to react when Link gets hits on and vice versa. It would be really neat for both of them to be on the same adventure.

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>Mipha takes down 3 flying guardians and a sentry solo, in permanent rain, as a part of taming Vah Ruta
>Still loses to Waterblight
???

Zelda is probably the type of girl that'd enjoy an antfarm.

And then when you actually get around to fighting the big monk at the end of the quest, he's fucking literally invincible for 90% of the fight and just runs around spamming attacks, especially in his stupid giant/floating form.

This whole fucking quest is annoying as shit. I'm not sure that the motorcycle is even worth it. The game is fucking over anyway, what am I going to roll around in this damn thing for? There's just Hyrule Castle left and some stray shrines by the time you get access to the bike.

How would Zelda work as a permanent companion? How would she keep up with you when you start climbing and swimming around and shit?

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Guys. What if BotW 2 starts all ala Metroid, with a end-game BotW powered up Link complete with end-game gear and all champion abilities and everything.
Only for the crazy hand stuff to happen that we saw in the trailer, at the end of what's likely to be BotW 2's Plateau equivalent. And for Link to lose his gear and powers afterwards.

I'd be all for it.

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BOTW has the best combat in the series. You may not like it, but it's the truth.

The ghost hand is going to fuck him up

Whoever you're not playing as is off searching Hyrule for doohickies on their own, and they warp in when you connect another Switch for co-op.

That's true but it's still pretty bad. I honestly think the combat would have been way better with flurry rush was just removed from the game, since late game you just start exploiting it to wreck everything.

I think it's going to give him some type of power not debilitate him.

late game you shouldn't even be using flurry rush, you should be killing everything with ice greatswords and lynel weapons to do quad damage with every other swing while simultaneously paralyzing your enemies. Flurry is great during the early game when you don't have any cool weapons yet and need a way to get safe damage in, particularly because most enemies in the game have infinite hyper armor while attacking and like hiding behind shields.

Maybe because it's a gameplay mechanic and asking why Link is controlled by a person playing the game

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>playing as Zelda and positioning the camera right near her ass
>maybe even changing into different outfits

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>doyoutrustme.png

>zelda has 0 fear of insects in cutscenes
>"no bugs or critters"
what did user mean by this?

Playable Zelda in addition to being able to switch to Link at any time would be the best thing. The only thing I would not want is a big focus on co-op gameplay, like having a 2nd player or AI always run around with you or even required to do certain stuff. You just know the AI is not going to be all that helpful while playing with another person would limit when you can even play.

>Whole game based around that part of Berserk where Guts and Casca are saving Griffith from the torture chamber
Would be cool
That scene where she dabs the blood from his arm is so strangely heartwarming

Making her being captured by some force would be pretty dumb knowing it's a sequel in the same timeline.
I dont see how she could be involved though.

I just wish they'd stop using his blue tunic look. It really sucks compared to his tunic. I liked the skyward sword look a lot more even if the game isn't the best. I still liked it more than BotW. Honestly they just need some dungeons. Even one or two would be a vast improvement over these shitty shrines. Just something to make exploration feel more fruitful. Man it was such a fucking disappointment. And fix the equipment system. Having a Master Sword, that, even after the trials had a cool down was lame as fuck.

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I really like the champion tunic
Green tunic is really stale

Alright.

Green tunic was always a bad idea for a game that's mostly set in fantasy forest and grassland. The blue one made more sense aesthetically

>cuckquean

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Okay.

Is that Hinata watching Sasuke fuck everyone except Sakura?

I think the original is her seeing that Naruto had a bunch of condoms in his pouch
Yes Sakura is a cuck

What's with the passive aggression? Can you not see that making the player character green when its surroundings are mostly green isn't necessarily the best way to make it stand out?

I expect she will be immediately kidnapped, and/or demon possessed.

What passive aggressiveness? I'm just saying alright to your opinion user. I already said I just don't like the blue. And you said you do. Sorry if it came off like a fuck you or something. Have a happy dog for your troubles.

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How long has ti been since we last had Ganondorf? A decade?

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MECHA-MIPHA

my nigga here understands

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It would be sweet to see HW Ganondorf be in a main game

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