Raspberry Pi 4

USB3 costs more, you retarded nigger.

Just buy one of these. Costs like a dollar.

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Without memeing, whats the point of one of these? Cant you do automation systems with just normal Arduinos instead? I guess minor server work but besides that, whats the point?

That is a PC though

this
low cost media player for anywhere in your house too

this is a good question to ask on /g/. there are various good reasons for it but video games isn't one of them unless retro emulation is your thing.

It's not too great for retro emulation either, has more input lag than a proper PC.

>4 gigs of ram
>shit cpu
LM@O maybe for 2007

It's as much a PC as your console is a PC. Or your phone.

Mini emulator boxes, dedicated servers for shit like Minecraft, network media servers, Kodi pirate media player devices, ultra mini pc for web browsing and light office work, ect ect

Being cheap and ultra lightweight its far more convenient than building a desktop pc for any of these things

>dm
What's a dersonal message?

these things are fucking useless and a waste of time

>more powerful processor!!!!!
>probably some utter peasant tier 2ghz celeron

kek

This.

Counterpoint: 35 dollars.

a message that is dersonal

>2019
>intel
no retard would ever build an intel system in le current year.

>video gamea
>kodi system
> shit servers
>running scripts
>autonomous systems
>a paper weight.

[distant fire truck noises]

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>American mind: "oh 80F isn't that ba--"
>it's actually 80C

Jesus Christ.

80 degrees is fine, especially for something that doesn't have a heat sink and fan blowing the heat away. Shit like which only exist to milk a few bucks out of retards who don't know ARM from x86

I have these and a tiny fan and I've never seen above 60C

cool another emulation trinket I will play around for a week then put it back on the shelf of "moderately expensive stuff I will never use again"

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oh you have the Pi 4 that came out less than a week ago?

It's a piece of electronic equipment, not a living organism.

Fair enough, thanks for the info anons.

Is this the best alternative if im looking for something really cheap to program on? I just started software engineering at college and dont know shit about hardware, but something simple that allows for programming and emulation looks cool

I use mine to stream my PC audio/video to the TV in my living room.

>Pi 4
>Expensive
Are you destitute?

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Depending on your proficiency, either get a rasberry pi if you're a beginner, or try tinkering with an Arduino if you want something more barebones.

Depends very much on what you're planning to program. Running some big, heavy IDE on one of these is going to be a struggle.

that's just the main module. you will also need a moderately big SD card, a keyboard/mouse to set up and configure, controller to plug in, a proper powered USB hub if you want to plug in a lot of stuff, etc. it adds up pretty quickly if you don't own any of these beforehand.

its called raspberry pi like the number xD im so nerdy and quirky

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Whatever you're using to make this post already allows for programming. By using a rpi instead of whatever computer or laptop you already use, you're creating another barrier to programming. Even something as simple as plugging it in or swapping keyboards every time you use it makes you less likely to actually use it, so it's best to start programming on whatever system you're already familiar with and use often.

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>moderately big sd card
with the emulation this can push I highly doubt you'll be strapped for space, and a 64GB mSD is $11.49 on amazon oh boy

>4 gigs ram

Those are things most people already own beforehand. For some use cases, just the base model is enough. People use them as a local server they SSH into.

The absolute state of PC gaming.

Im quite new

Python and java, some lightweight ide that at least points errors while writing the code would sufice i imagine

Its my home pc, cant take it to college, they have peripherals and monitors there

bait.
even atom performs better

Okay, so these fucking idiots say that the hardware demands for emulating...so-called "trinkets" is very light. Yea-Actually, it isn't very light at all. If you want to have a good setup, you basically need a top-of-the-line PC. The thing that's comical is, you actually need a more powerful PC to emulate old games properly than you do to play new games.It has higher hardware requirements. Um, especially if you're using an LCD screen, you basically need, uh, you know, a top of the line GPU to even run the thing at 4K so that it'll actually look good with CRT shaders. And if you want to do things like use Grovvy MAME or Retroarch's frame delay, you need to have an incredibly fast CPU to use high frame delay settings to minimize input lag as much as possible. He is completely fucking full of shit. Don't believe ANYONE who says that you don't need a powerful machine to emulate games. If you want to have a pile of shit, you can use a Raspberry Pi. If you want to have a terrible setup, if you want to have an embarrassing setup that I will laugh at and ridicule you for having, then yeah sure, go ahead, build a, uh, toaster and tell me that you have a good arcade cabinet. But, if you want to actually have something respectable- if you want to earn my respect, you are going to have a real PC- a high-end CPU, and if you're using a LCD, you're not only going to have a high end LCD that has variable refresh, but you're also going to have a high-end GPU capable of pumping out 4K without dropping frames. Fuck you for even daring to say that you don't need a powerful computer to do this, fucking piece of shit.

I got an IRC client running on mine.

>IRC
what is this shit i always read

Wish I got this instead of a $3k pc. I'm sure it can run most emulators and indies. Not many AAA good games lately and worst case scenario, most are on consoles

These things suck for emulation. Don't fall for the meme. Also fuck Retroarch.

I legit use pis for home server stuff. They're great for simple things.

The emulations are fucking full speed with 1 frameskip

>$3k pc
How? Better yet, why? I bought a $1k PC in 2011, and have spent maybe $600-700 throughout the years keeping it up to date.

Internet Relay Chat. It's like Discord for /g/entoomen.

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*Donation Massage

Most android phones make better emulators than the raspberry Pi. Pi can't emulate psp, or ps1 or DS, and n64 already runs really bad.

looks cringey
and what is IIRC?

1440/144hz, can't recall how much I spent exactly, but I'm counting table, two monitors, 32gb ram, i7 and a 1080.
Why? Always wanted one. Now that I have it I can see it was a waste. Still play indies and roguelikes

Makes sense. If I count the second monitor and peripherals like VR and racing wheels, I'm probably around $2500.

Absolute piece of shit.
Can't even browse the web without it being slow as shit.
My phone from 2012 was more powerful than that piece of shit.

Would rather buy a used pc or parts.

counterpoint: its useless

I used mine for plenty of things before loading it with an emulator, slapping it in a NES case and giving it away as a gift

>micro hdmi
why
literally nobody has cables for those
use displayport instead, it's objectively superior to HDMI

You will retract that statement.

Adapters are really cheap.

needs some work to be a wothy pasta

>use displayport instead, it's objectively superior to HDMI
does displayport support audio?

What alternative would you suggest for a dedicated emu box then?

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a Discord,
No escape from Web 2.0

Probably because of the smaller form factor, so it actually fits on the card.

>USB-C bullshit
So the my official pi powe suply will dont work on this.
Also still have av output?
I just use my pi3 on crt tv and works fine

>audio
displayport.org/faq/
Yes, DisplayPort supports multi-channel audio and many advanced audio features. DisplayPort to HDMI adapters also include the ability to support HDMI audio.

I've never gotten into coding for one of these things, is it fun?

there's none
redditors like DIY garbage, that's it.

You can just install Debian on an existing machine.

Any computer with an x86 processor released after 2010. Actually you could use one released after 2003 and still play most 2D games.

did you have a stroke writing this? and yeah the av output is right there

existing machines don't have GPIO pins, which are the main reason to buy a raspberry pi along with its small size

I mean sure you can emulate some N64 games now but that's about it.

Where are the video drivers?

I said dedicated emu box, I don't want a second PC

I retract this statement.

Nice try amd shill. 9700k is still THE king.

Yes my dad works for the pi

>for /g/entoomen
More like for boomers.

Different. "If I remember correctly,"

>falling for the refresh rate meme

I use a pi3 with pi2jamma in my candy cab.

Can a pi4 finally play Naomi or Dreamcast? I wanna play crazy taxi.

>GPIO pins
It's called Universal Serial Bus, ever heard of it grandpa?

>Watch benchmark video.
>Still can't watch videos at 1080p60on YouTube or vlc
Yeah sure seems like a strong device.

it makes a bigger difference than the ultra hd meme

>>Still can't watch videos at 1080p60on YouTube or vlc
See

Literally still just good for custom projects and emulators. And Africa.

Cheap easy PC for my luddite dad

Most copypasta is good because it's ironically true.
PC gaming and emulation isn't that expensive. ""PERFECT"" emulation and "I'm having fun" emulation won't change much between hardware. You won't notice a difference, you aren't a computer. Have sex.

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*DMs u*
pssst...youre a fag kys

USB 2 is cheaper, has a lower energy consumption rate, and has a slower transfer rate compared to USB 3. The latter is better suited for transferring data (for example, if you boot from usb via external hard drive, which older Pi models could not do) while USB2 is better suited for i/o devices. The difference between USB2 and USB3 for i/o is negligible for the most part.

>MicroHDMI ports
Neat, I finally have a use for the ones I bought for an old kindle fire a decade ago.

Yoooo what interface is this and how do I get it? Trying to make an emulator box for my friends kid but I don't know shit

Odroid is what you're after, but they're a bit more expensive.

>Wii
You wish

Automated adblock/filter/firewall for your home network, wifi et al. That's what I use mine for. It's nice for the smartphone crowd who use shit that doesn't have jailbreaks to remove ads.

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>Gamecube
>Wii
>Saturn
>PS2
No way in hell you're running any of that on a Pi. Even DS, N64, and PSP are unlikely.

I run PS1 just fine on my Pi 3b. 3b+ and 4 should be able to handle it no sweat.

lakka

N64 already runs somewhat well on a 3b+, it'll probably run full speed by the time it's optimized on the 4. PSP is a maybe, DS probably not.

Media server+old games emulator. Low power and it can serve my illegal downloads to me anywhere in the world.

I attached mine to the back of one of my monitors, saves desk space for when I just want to do some browsing

DS runs on the psclassic and this is more powerful.
N64 could if someone fixed emulation
Gamecube probably will once dolphin is fixed. Maybe some wii games. Saturn works already and theres youtube vids of it

What type of mount did you use? Or did you just tape it?

amazon.com/VESA-Mount-Case-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B01D3Y0L4O something like this should work

That's not a box, that's just an alternative to Retropie...

N64 will be decent on Pi4
Truly good N64 emulation on Pi will take years. angrylionRDP has big processing requirements

why post pri thread on Yea Forums and not on /g/

Raspberry Pi's are great for prototyping for people who aren't well versed in embedded systems and the like. It's a big all in one package with shit that you can cut off when you design your own dedicated systems.

Tell me when these can do Gamecube properly, otherwise I'm not interested.

I'll keep the Pi 2B+ I have for SNES and PS1.

The problem is that once it reaches 82 it starts throttling, that's actually a huge problem.

not really a problem once you add cooling

>DS probably not.
What do you mean? Drastic runs on a toaster. It will work even better when it becomes open source.

Certain PSP games can run well. Crimson Gem Saga is near flawless.

I use mine to control multiple temperature and light sensors and turn splinkers and lights on.

I use other to manage webcams of my house plugged in my UPS.

Not anymore.
Destroyed by a $199 CPU.

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You bongo, it stands for D-mail

>cheap as fuck outside my country
>fucking six times the price when sold here
I need to import one of those.

What would the be ideal for retro emulation anyway? Watercooled mini-itx build?

Pihole
Surveillance system
NAS
Media Server
Minecraft server
Cheap HTPC
Cheap Do it all Emu machine

Where the fuck do you live?

>9700k is still THE king.
>9700k
>King
Don't worry, in 8 days that's gone.

Brazil.
I just want to do some retro emulation to play King of Fighters with people.

Don't you guys have smugglers?

It's just fucking Emulation Station wish some gay wallpapers. The actual interface is ass

how the hell is a USB/C gonna power that micro-monster like they say it will?

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I havent built a computer since 2013 or so. Intel was king and emulation was significantly more difficult if you were on AMD. What happened? Or is this some fanboy schlock?

USB C can do 200W.
And chink USB C PSUs can do 50w easy.

I always wondered, can I use these to set up a cloud storage type shit?

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The Pi has a power draw of 10w tops unless you overclock it.
But the USB 3.0 ports will want way more than 10w for some stuff.
And each USB 2.0 port is 2.5w.

High end emulation still relies on Intel instructions.

But that's a PC.

Can a SoC be considered a PC?

Unfortunately they also want to sell it at an expensive price.

So are consoles.

Any Ryzen CPU is a SoC so yes.

>PCs btfo by a shit PC

Big thonk

shut up nerd

Is that a heat map of Europe right now?

Okay-ish temperature for a shitty laptop

Where should I annoy people with questions about RBI? For instance how do i hook up old laptop monitor to RBI.

Can this thing actually run any games? Other than Tetris, that is.

Is this under full load? If yes, that's pretty acceptable.

/diy/.

The CPU is the equivalent of a Nehalem i3 , but with a 2-10w power draw.
Yeah it can do some basic stuff.

Thank you user.

Is it possible to connect this thing directly to a tv and play Return Fire for the PS1 and if so where do i send my money?

>when you spot a nigga who don't slide into dms
OH NO NO NO NO

there is also an 8GB version

Just get one with RCA or the composite/component/S-video adapter.

Direct Message

bring your daddy to work on my pi

Current ones can handle pretty much any game up to the PS1. This new version of the Pi has a GPU supported in Mesa (same project that finally produced working high-performance AMD drivers) and should be able to support modern OpenGL and Vulkan.

If we were to get games actually written for the Pi itself they could be pretty impressive for the cost of the hardware at least.

But can it finally emulate the 64

>posting fake numbers
>not overclocking K processors
the state of AMDshills

>it's going to be used as ANOTHER snes/retro emulator
fucking yawn

It doesn't come until next year. And RAM is not that important for emulation.

24/7 seedbox that uses very little power.

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Not till the pi6,7
Be happy were getting working dreamcast and n64 with this one

Looks ugly.

I use it monitor and display readings in my car. I also use it for emulation if I'm stuck in traffic. Replaced my entire cluster with a digital display.

It's behind my monitor so I don't care to make it pretty.

Is this shit even able to emulate ps2 and gamecube or we're stuck with super Nintendo?

If you write better emulators, then, sure.

fuck no

It does seem to meet certain compatibility requirements for Dolphin once the Vulkan support is available.
PS2 emulation is still stuck in a bit of a dark age since its hardware was such a dead-end technologically.

Saturn
Dreamcast
PSX
PSP
NDS
N64

Don't even dream about anything beyond these.

Can you run Android on one of these?

>GC
Barely.
>PS2
No.

Its an ARM CPU, if we had optimized emulators yeah but we don't.

>dedicated servers for shit like Minecraft

Go on.

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Running a Minecraft server is not hard, i can run a 96 player server from my C2D thinkpad for example.

Yes, pretty much any Linux distribution can be made available for it, Android included. The Pi's utility however comes from more traditional Linux applications like servers, media centers, or to act as dedicated gaming appliances.

>irc
>cringey
Zoomer scum detected.

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ok but it's not like I need something that small

The all caps descriptions ruins it.

How much storage does this thing have though?

What OS does it even run??

login server
silent LaTex machine
using a bunch of them to study distributed computing stuff
making /g/ mad by posting this questiong with a picture of your pi w/ timestamp
making /diy/ happy by posting an actually useful original idea what to do with it

As much as you want. Use a USB3 SSD or a microsd.

>What OS does it even run??
Their default OS is Raspbian, an optimized distribution of Debian GNU/Linux, but there are many other Linux distributions that are available including specialized ones like Lakka and RetroPie which make setting up a Pi as a retro console incredibly easy.
The main limit in gaming is that you can't run AMD64 compiled games on due to the ARM architecture, and there aren't many PC games compiled for ARM.

gave specs

>seething over a fucking name
take it easy user

God bless you, user.

An itx desktop. Don't fall for something like the raspberry pi for emulation.

Have you tried cooling it like literally every other circuit which includes a relatively high performance processor?

SFF computer with a GTX 1050Ti or 1650.
>Smaller
Ryzen NUC.

Who here /crt/ with their pi?
Shit was a pain in the ass to set up but it's so nice to have an all in one emulation station and retro anime box for my crt.

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The cooper ones are $1.5-3.
If you wanna go full retard Noctua Pi fans are $15 too.

There is an adapter that is plug and play to get everything working user.

A Ryzen+Vega SOC system will cost you 2-3 times what a Raspberry Pi system complete with controllers will cost you.
A system with an Nvidia dedicated GPU will cost you 4-6 times as much and has the downside of including close source components which may not be well supported in the future.
Both systems will lack the easy portability of a Pi due to its tiny form factor.

I just ordered an cable for the jack and that worked fine, but it was mostly a software side thing that was a pain in the ass.
Changing setting to properly display, etc etc.

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Unironically want one. Combine it with a screen and you have a better tablet than 99% of tablets out there.

There is a GPIO adapter that outputs VGA, Composite and component already at 240p, 360p and 480p.

> DP>HDMI
While absolutely true, unfortunately because of the TV industry HDMI is the most ubiquitous connector for any and all consumer digital video applications.
>But DP can do HDMI natively
Yes, but we then have to contend with specialty cables and people being too much of a brainlet to know what to do with it.
On a general note;
>Dual HDMI out
Not that the other Pis couldn't before with a single display, but I wonder how well it'd fare with being used for DIY VR setups, it's not like you couldn't homebrew lighthouse support through the GPIO and shoving a IMU in there, and I'm sure there's a way to force video into the thing at decent speeds.

A softmodded Wii connected to a CRT. Other than that yeah, some micro-itx build with decent single core performance and integrated GPU.

>but we then have to contend with specialty cables and people being too much of a brainlet to know what to do with it.
You mean the standard generic DP to HDMI cable?

From what I recall, the box was auto booting to an HD signal, when going through composite it wouldn't allow it to show up on the crt, but it was just some options I needed to flip in the settings.
But like I said this was a while ago and it all works now so it's no big thing.

>the virgin berry
>the chad hacked Wii

Well there is always the option to get a cheap Lenovo Haswell NUC for $50-60.
A SFF Thinkcentre is $100 + $50-100 for a GPU.

He never said it had to be cheap.

If you happen to have those on hand, then fantastic. Most people who aren't /g/ minded don't. Though most people don't have micro HDMI cables either, so who knows what they were thinking.
Well, they said it's because they wanted to fit two display outs on the board, but if that's what they wanted to do, it would of made more sense to double stack standard size ones than go with micro connectors.

Licencing fees for mHDMI are cheaper than the standard HDMI cable.

The whole point of the Raspberry Pi is that it is a super cheap single board system with a very limited number of hardware variations.

That'd make sense. But that still somewhat begs the question, if they're so price conscious, why go with a video standard that even HAS a licensing fee when you could use one that doesn't, and is also compatible with HDMI anyway?

Because they might have got a deal to get cheap micro HDMI connectors from a company that had them lying around.

While that may have been the case, I was talking about generally over all the Pis using HDMI at all.